Day 20 RECAP! | What If Any Value Did These Witnesses Have? | Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard
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- Day 20 marked the start of the 6th and final week of the Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard defamation trial. With Amber's team running a severe time deficit to Johnny's team, the question on all our minds was how would they handle today? Would they rest and save time for cross examining rebuttal witnesses, or would they drag out their case and bring in more witnesses? The answer was the latter.
The day kicked off with Orthopedic Surgeon Richard Moore, before we moved into a psychologist and Hollywood damages expert who were slightly more, should we day, entertaining... Dr. David Spiegel and Katherine Arnold. Both took considerable time, and engaged in contentious and drawn out cross exams with Depp lawyer Wayne Dennison. They debated Goldwater rules, movie trivia, Star Trek, and more. It was a rather interesting afternoon.
For all the details, including a rather optimistic set of Hollywood comparables for Amber Heard, you'll have to watch the recap.
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For some background- This is a defamation case between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for defamation stemming from her OpEd published in The Washington Post in 2018. Amber Heard is counter suing for defamation claims based on statements made by Johnny Depp's former lawyer. The trial is taking place in Fairfax, Virginia, the proper venue as The Washington Post is headquartered in said location. Presiding is Judge Penny Azcarate, Johnny Depp is represented by Ben Chew, Camille Vasquez, and more. Amber Heard is represented by Elaine Bredehoft, Ben Rottenborn, and more.
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Drop your guesses here for what the final 'What, If Any' count will be for Day 21! 😂
For the sake of my kidney, i have to say no more than 3, else i might not make it...
I am confident to say that it will be enough to fill a mega pint
Way too many
I think we will see a lot of Alyte freak outs🤣
What,if any, can you tell us how annoyed you are with the questioning by Elaine?
the first doc actually said its unlikely the injury occured by knife/he cut it off with a knife, idk if you missed that.
Did we all dream Dr Spielgel? He was like a sitcom character.
Just amazing that he's got the degree...
Specifically, the guy who lived downstairs in Friends.
He looked like he has Tardive Dyskinesia.
@@rosie_nix OMG yes!! Thank you! I've been trying to work out who he reminded me of 😂
Oh that man was both annoying, argumentative and those mouth gestures?? Ughhh.
Yesterday was a fever dream. As a lay person its a bit frightening how much obvious BS is allowed in a court room
Yep, that's you and me both.
@@freezysyahz we all
Funny how they managed to found the second best Jack Sparrow candidate, when testifying against the actor of Jack Sparrow. I still couldn't believe this kind of coincidence happening when we're sober and lucid.
No more BS in the case than the testimony of Depp and Heard.
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How was Dr Spiegel NOT kicked out of court? He was combative, rude, arrogant and at points sarcastic. Makes you wonder what kind of vetting happened from AH's legal team.
This is the calibre of person they need to dreg up to find someone who perports to support her case
@@kirotheavenger60 and they are really, really desperate
I think it may've been smart for the court to leave things as they were. This being such a public, high-profile case, I feel that if they had forced Spiegel to leave, then Amber's team and PR and everything else would go insane in the media, claiming an "obvious bias" of which she's been trying to argue has been against her this whole time, anyways (The whole "I spoke up against sv and faced our cultures wrath" kind of thing). I think it would give fuel to her fire, and this legal team and court don't want that kind of convoluted bad press, since they know the whole world is watching. I do believe that in any other case, he would've been kicked out though.
As he was talking about narcissistic traits I was thinking 🤔 Dr Speigel=Narcissist! What a weird, obnoxious little creature he was!
Honestly I was surprised the Judge didn't do or say more
JD first tried to tell the Australian doctor he caused the injury in a door, apparently trying to save Amber the embarrassment. Doctor didn't believe him and told JD it was a "high velocity" injury
If he was ying it was to save himself from embarrassment. You guys out here are so biased you can't see the obvious.
@@ak203 Did you even read the comment?
High velocity door?
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@@ak203 if caught somewhere other fingers would be also injured.
I think you really hit the points spot on. I wasn’t aware of Amber heard until this trial. I thought Depp was a “wife beater” to A partner. After stumbling on the live coverage of trial, I decided after Heard’s testimony and the other mountains of evidence that she was lying about Australia and super exaggerating or retelling a different version of all the other incidents. I feel sorry for whole mess but Depp needed to do this to exonerate his name. Wasn’t ever a particular Depp fan but I’ll go see his next movie if it’s upbeat like I hope his life will be. Thank you for your vid.
Same!
That comment made me smile. I randomly heard about AH stuff a year ago or so and my first thought was that JD was, well, just another drug using VIP going crazy on his wife and I was mildly disappointed bc I did enjoy movies and some interviews of him in the past. But once I watched her testimony, it was so so obvious that she was lying. A gut feeling first, now I'm sure after seeing all these not-evidences on her side and her attitude compared to his way of dealing with the situation. I do hope there will be a good ending for him and some justice for all victims of DV and narcissistic people.
All Depp has proven is that he is a mean, occasionally vicious drunk, a drug addict, a reckless spender and possibly a wife beater. I guess in Hollywood alone that counts for rehabbing a reputation
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You read my mind. Knew JD’s name and saw all of the Pirates, knew he wore rings. lol …and that’s the sum total. Knew nothing at all about Amber Heard.
So, basically no opinion either way until I began watching the testimony/seeing the evidence.
I don’t believe her. Full stop. This suit had to happen. I actually believe, ironically, that *she* is the monster.
I’ve heard “what if any” so many times now that I’ve started flinching every time. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to me now.
I fear I might adapt it into my active vocabulary. I don't want to.
You and me both! I’ve tried not to dunk on Heard’s team too much. They’re doing the best they can with what they got. And obviously they ain’t got *anything* they don’t even know how to get their side of the story out without basically relying solely on whatever Heard has said.
I could forgive them if it wasn’t for the constant egregious whining every-time they’re reminded that they have to ask their questions properly.
After this trial the phrase "what, if any" will automatically set off my BS alarm.
Same here. Can you imagine how the jurors must feel about it?
The door thing came from Johnny himself saying that's what he originally told doctor's because he didn't want to tell them the truth, but he also said they didn't believe him after seeing the damage. He testified to this himself.
That’s very true. JD did provide the “door excuse” in an effort to cover for AH.
Exactly
Yes, I remember JD saying that the Aus doctor at the hospital had been puzzled at JD's explanation and had said to JD, "This is a high-velocity injury"
Thanks for the explanation
@@johnqpublic5350 Oh? Perhaps he lied to cover for him being so inebriated that he did that to himself?
Yesterday was a nightmare. My heart goes out to the jury suffering through this. Watching your recap videos is like coming home to a fresh baked batch of muffins after a terrible day at work. 😋
Soo ... do YOU know the muffin man?
And a nice mega pint of red wine
And now I want muffins. Damnit.
Feeling the sane, really jaw dropping. BTW, I love muffins~
That last expert got totally obliterated in cross. At some point she said "cause I actually checked it" which makes it seem to me like she didn't check anything else.
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You mean “the correlation doesn’t imply causation” is just semantics chick? 😆
Who even was she? She's meant to be an expert but literaturly didn't know anything about anything and got arsy about being asked about it. Your the one coming to an opinion if you don't know this basic information like what films the people your using for comparison to amber for example then how the hell did you come up with that opinion.
Disagree. You guys are trying really really hard to convince yourselves. Dr. Spiegel came across as smart and equal in tone to Dennison. Dennison started out with incredulity, and this doctor was clearly more intelligent. Plus, Elaine took a lot of wind out of his sales by brining up the Goldberg rule before cross.
And hey, if you disagree on the facts, fine, I can still respect you. But to the degree Depp supporters (and Legal Bites) have ridiculed and made fun of Amber while she cries, you guys have acted disgracefully. No what-aboutism will excuse this. Many on #teamdepp have acted like animals. But the internet is forever. Doubt this will age well.
@@fluffymajestic4589 clearly no one is talking about the Dr. The last witness was the movie industry expert, you know the one who didn't know what movies the people she was using as a point of comparison to amber were even in.
And to your point about the Dr. His entire testimony was basically statistically people who abuse drugs are more likely to be abusive therefore Johnny Depp is abusive. You do realise how inappropriate that type of thinking is right particularly in a court case? Your probably right about how people talk about amber on the internet unfortunately it's hard for me to have much sympathy for some who is so willing to lie in an attempt to ruin someone's life. If you believe what she says then I really don't know what to say to you? Even if you take out all Johnnys evidence, her own evidence disproves 99% of what she is claiming, the violence she describes was done to her would require a large amount of reconstructive surgery and urgent medical attention, yet she says she didn't need medical attention and shows us a picture of what could be a bruise but definitely wasn't caused by any kind of punch. If you want to see what someone looks like after they've been punched that picture of Johnny was a good example or Google Riana after Chris brown hit her, and he did that while driving a car so imagine what her face would look like if he wasn't driving and could hit her properly? So listen to what amber discribes was done to her look at the picture that she claims was taken the day after and then look at Riana
This trial case really shows me how much an “expert” truly is an expert.
Just remember that whenever someone tries to tell you to do anything because they're an "expert", that the person who graduated last in their class from medical school is still called "Doctor"
My thoughts on Day 20:
Witness 1:
He said that the wounds weren't consistent with the bottle story partly because there was torn tissue rather than a clean cut. And also partly because nobody mentioned glass in the wound. I was surprised and frustrated that the lawyers didn't bring up the fact that Johnny spent quite some time DRAWING ON THE WALLS of the residence with his injured finger. I'm no doctor but it seems to me like that would significantly change what the wound looks like.
Witness 2:
What this guy said was quite questionable in itself, but I feel like it barely matters because he seemed to do his damn best to come across as the most unlikable person on Earth. He interrupted both lawyers constantly, hardly ever actually answered the questions (instead he assumed what the question was aiming at and ridiculed Johnny's lawyer). It was a complete mess and I was wondering more than once what conclusions this doctor would come to if he observed his own behavior. I think just having him ramble on and destroy himself made for a decent cross.
Witness 3:
I took this personally. I love movies and it's clear to me that this woman hasn't seen any. I could have made more accurate statements about all of these actors/actresses and films without being an "expert witness". It was insufferable. If there are movie buffs in the jury, it's likely that they died a million deaths yesterday.
Good point about the wall writing and the finger. I'd forgotten about that.
It didn't seem like he got all the information about the finger at all. He looked as shocked as anyone about the cross pictures.
What a fever dream this day was. Its amazing to me how most of AH witnesses have the same demeanor as AH herself. Arrogant, semi aggressive and incredibly uninformed.
Depps attorney Wayne Dennison did a great job. Dr. Speigal and entertainment expert became less credible with cross examination.
My impressions on Day 20: a fascinating trainwreck hauling a freight of dumpster fires. Absolutely incredible thing to see!
I feel like Dennison’s strategy is to allow witnesses to talk themselves into a whole.
By the time you figure out where his questions are going, you are trapped 🤷🏾♀️
Agreed. Positioning Spiegel so that he had to agree that his findings Depp’s ‘cognitive impairment’ could have been attributed to the influence of drugs, and therefore having to admit his findings could be considered completely unreliable, was masterful.
I think he takes advantage of his "bumbling old guy" demeanor, perhaps playing it up a bit. Either way, he does an excellent job.
People with ADHD are often miss labeled as being Narcissist, doesn't mean that people with ADHD cant be narcissist but knowing someone has ADHD is a needed factor when giving a expert testimony.
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I have ADHD and autism and while yes we can sometimes come off as harsh in some ways, Spiegal was overly combative, self-centered, and rude. I know everyone presents differently, so my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. I also know neurotypical people can also act this way. Still, you also have to consider that Ambers's team should have either notified the jury about his diagnoses or not chosen him at all, because whether he is neurodivergent or not, he came across very negatively and did not give useful information.
this is not meant to be rude in any way, just trying to give another view
Johnny doesn't come off as a narcissist at all in my opinion, the guy seems quite introverted in any interview iv seen him in
@@Lizrich3303 i think they were referring to Johnny having ADHD; they're trying to say that the psychiatrist may not have considered this when claiming that Johnny is a narcissist
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It has already been testified by multiple people that Johnny was dropped from Pirates 2 days after her article came out. How they could even spend the argument that they did it to himself when he already had a contract is ridiculous and I don't understand why this is not brought up
I’ve watched court almost every day, and I still believe all of this is due to AH’s vengeance. I don't believe she truly wanted to get divorced, I think she was happy to ride on JD’s coattails and everything his lifestyle brought her. When he told her he was “done” and wanted a divorce, she brought her vengeance upon him for daring to leave her and disrupt her high flying life.
Imagine how much easier her life would have been, if she had been a nice, non-abusive person. He seems like he just needed a good human around him to bring him up in his personal life, she could have chosen to be that person. It’s really sad that she enjoyed being hurtful and abusive more than just being decent. She could have ridden his coattails, taken all his money, and at least they both would have been happier than they are right now.
@@MariW736 My god you're right. Why couldn't Amber just love back Johnny in a normal way so they'd both be happy? It feels like things would have been so much better that way. I'm still not condoning Johnny for leaving his wife from before for a younger girl though.
I feel the same. I think she wanted to keep things her way, Johnny to be her wallet and pet and when she saw it's over, bam, vengeance. Though I think she didn't want it to get this far, it just got out of her control. :)
I think the same.
Exactly!
Seeing as AHs team got Doc Brown in as an expert witness, I think they are running out of options
Doc Brown's theories about time travel have more scientific validity than this guy's psychological commentary.
Doc Brown never came across as an arrogant jerk though. Also, he's not THIS insane.
She said in cross examination that she had been working on this case for 3 years. I found it amazing, the lack of knowledge, when there are so many Hollywood publishings which cover all the actors, their pay,ratings and film/ tv appearances. $60,000, I could have done a better job that by shouting "hey google".
Haha agreed!
I was going to say I can't imagine what it's like for Johnny to have to sit there and listen to bs stories about his finger, but actually I can, and I feel for him, it makes my blood boil, I do know what it's like. He's shown nothing but cool, calm collectedness throughout.
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I think it helps him, and us all, that her argument is SO ridiculous, it's downright funny at times. My heart really does ache for him, I'm so happy to see everyone wave to him when court wraps, it must really be so fantastic for him to see the support he has x
Hopefully it is cathartic and the huge support is. Therapeutic
I had noticed Depp's surprise when the Dr. testifying said that his figure injury couldn't have been what Depp claimed. Which would fit because if you're telling the truth and an "expert" says it's not possible the mind would be blown.
In my opinion so far AH's Attorneys have realized that they are done, now they just wanted the jury to be confused, that they can't fell the decision who is guilty and the case run's into nothing...it's the last that they can do for AH.
But of course, Bibi, because when human 'beans' exhaust their reservoir of lies, they default to the Fustercluck Strategy. As a defensive mechanism, it works because righteous opponents are too drained of energy to sort out and untangle the Gordian Knot the demonic tied. The closing scenario is FUBAR, fouled up beyond repair. In the fiasco, while everyone is enmeshed in half-truths and tangled up in obvious lies, the instigator of the confusion quietly slips off unnoticed, making an escape.
@@pearlwogkoklol6700 Oh,
I understand. To me now it's crystal clear what's going on. Thank you for the specific explenation.
Johnny himself said he lied to the doctor telling them he closed it in that type of door.
That's probably where he got that detail.
I thought it was one of his bodyguards?
@@fredbloggs5902 I just finished watching Dr Honda's reaction to it. It's possible a bodyguard too
Dr Honda's video czcams.com/video/u3Rp2glc5aw/video.html
Right. But AH’s own lawyers never went with that either. So for him to have said that didn’t make any sense.
I feel like JD wouldn't neccessary be forthcoming on a serious injury [DV] in another country to avoid risk of publicity- seems plausible he would have lied to ER to avoid police reporting/ leaks...
Also was injury after AU entry of illegal dogs??? Would this have just add to another public incident in JD mind ie. optics
@@gigi6997 Also might not have said anything to protect Amber. It's not uncommon for victims to protect their abusers, especially when they're in a place without a support system. I can't be sure for him, but I know for me, optics would be the last thing going through my mind while in that much pain and panic.
Awesome analysis! As a social science researcher, I was blown away by Spiegel’s lack of professional methodology in his evaluation of an individual based on his movie roles. Holy crap, does he think movies are real?! Also, I had no idea of the cinematic impact of Aquaman until this week. 😅🧜🏼♂️
Because there was no cinematic impact of Aquaman ;)
AQUAMAN 😂
It’s hard to add sarcasm here. Aquaman prior to the movie was always a joke with my comic book friends. Just a boring super hero. It was surprising it even made into a movie, but it was entertaining even tho the DC universe is a mess compared to Marvel.
The best thing to come out of this trial for me personally is the discovery of this channel
First part of her defense: Gone Girl. Second part of her defense: Girl On A Train.
Yesterday’s trial was a mess. I think 3 people were like nail on a chalkboard. The finger evidence was gruesome
Watch a murder trial or rape trial if you want to see gruesome.
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@@ak203 that’s true. I’ve seen some. But I wasn’t expecting it yesterday.
To sum up the day: the medical expert had nothing relevant to say, he basically just made up a story and nearly got impeached for it.
The psychiatrist expert needs a psychiatrist at this point, but it was pretty entertaining.😂
The movie expert felt like her expertise came from reading 15 minutes of wikipedia. Not a good day for AH, this was just wasting time from her team.
Well, good thing they've got soooo much time left.
A key point re the doctor at the beginning: the Golden Rule, you cannot testify and give expert opinion re a patient, if you have not met them and or interviewed them, and or have been given the patient's consent. Yet the first thing this doctor is doing, is giving expert opinion and testimony on JD, whom he never met and or interviewed. The doctor cites that all the expert testimony so far may as well be struck. The thing is, Dr Curry did interview A H in person. So in effect, the doctor has just pointed out his testimony and all the testimony for A H is null and void.
Goldwater
Very true. (though it's the Goldwater Rule ;) ) he just tried throwing word salad at the question because he didn't wanna "lose" His rant after that question was asked made him look like a child... Did you do this wrong thing...? Well... well... if I was wrong for doing something then EVERYONE has to get punished because they all are guilty even if they didn't actually do what I did. Logic. :-/
It's not null and void. It's just unethical and worthless.
That’s not true- the only time you can go against the rule is if it’s legally mandated. There no infallible medical privacy.
The only expert who did this was Depp's. All the rest did what you say. Had they been better prepared by the frightfully mediocre lawyers on both sides, they could have put in useful testimony.
I thought Dennison was great. Gets a lot of hate but I enjoy his slow burn and gotcha moments. He makes witnesses look like idiots by the end.
He produced a lot of memes and while that might sound like a joke, it will definitely help with the public perception.
Will we remember that we were screaming at our screens for him being ineffective in 2 weeks? Probably not.
Will we remember "but what about Willy Wonka?"
Or... "What about Marlon Brando? Isn't he dead?!"
etc...
So that should also be taken into account. He's actually doing his client a real service IMO. 🙂
I definitely have some criticisms about Dennison, but I gotta say he has some great one-liners and mostly gets where he needs to go by the end.
I agree with you, Jakob. He does get the necessary information which immediately makes their expert opinions less credible and questionable. I understand all the complaints people have but again every lawyer has their own style or some crosses don’t always go as planned for various reasons. I feel people are still hung up on the cross-examination he had with the pyschologist, which I agree could have been performed better, but was by no means a fail (he successfully made her testimony less credible in several ways). Also, I do not agree with people’s comments on his way of speech - not everyone can speak as fluidly (even myself at times), and this happens for several reasons (aging, anxiety, nervousness, etc.). Thank you for your comment.
I think the cross byDennison was really well done, yes, he could've asked questions about topics that are more direct but I don't think that's they approach they're going with, he dismantled all the experts and made them look uncredible
I think he got confused a bit by the Spiegel and his off topic verbal diarrhoea. Would have loved him to bring up the “Johnny eats candy and is therefore a narcissist” comment and then play ambers UK deposition again and show her eating while being questioned, then ask is it just candy or does eating any food that make you narcissist?
I think he got there in the end, but he was too prone to argue with the witnesses and let them control the time they took. And he kept going on about stuff after his point had been made. He also slipped up and parroted back "defamatory statement" in reference to Waldman's statement after the "movie expert" said it when he should have been correcting that speech because the statement has yet to be proved to be defamatory. If there wasn't a time limit, it wouldn't be such a big deal. I would rather have seen the time go to rebuttal witnesses later on (I'm excited to see the rebuttal witnesses...lol). But... like I said... at least he mostly got to where he needed to go when he finished.
Dennison is a very weak lawyer and all of his cross-x efforts have flaunted every basic rule for cross. Most of the lawyers in this case are below avergae.
It wasn't difficult to make this dude incredible
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I find it bizzare that so many expert witnesses and even Heard's own legal team seem so utterly surprisingly incapable or even lazy. Those people are licensed psychiatrists, licensed lawyers and surgeons who really went through a decent system of exams and qualification tests. One could argue that they may have been influenced by Johnny's overwhelming winning trajectory or that they may not be particularly good in a courtroom, but still, this level of incapability in such a high prevelance is just unusual. I am tempted to think that it is really Heard herself who is driving this ship. Her arrogance and, later on, her desparation, made her tempted to take even more control on something that she really has no expertise in.
On the whole finger thing, it feels like AH's team have just been trying to say "well, it could have been this, or it could have been that". It's almost like they're thinking that if they give everyone 4 options instead of 2, there's now a 3/4 chance they'll choose something other than the vodka bottle, instead of it being 1/2.
It's very odd logic.
And he was their best witness that day.
Watching legalbytes from Europe. You have a brilliant channel; informative, unbiased and polite! Like sitting with friends around a kitchen table debating and expressing different points of view! Well done!
Yay watching from Europe as well :)
Thanks Alyte. I found Day 20 frustrating and disappointing in terms of quality of witness. They let themselves down as professional experts. However, I did like Dennison. Initially, I found him slow, previously too, and a bit muddled but watching and listening to him, his style worked well for him because he listens too. Everyone is unique. For gentleman johnny.
I really liked his mic drop moment a couple days ago when he asked that witness if he would agree that justice in general was a good thing. Perfect end to a cross.
@@TheRealGSmith yeah that was great
Loved your analysis, and comments about expert witnesses "Do your work!"
It's amazing how I've gone from thinking Johnny has almost no chance to now thinking that it will be almost impossible for him to lose. The epic self owns from Ambers attorneys have been a sight to behold. The only question now, is will the Depp team somehow manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Jingles, that you?
Johnny Depp drinks and does drugs?
OMG NO!!!!! He MUST be an abusive monster.
I am so tired of this narrative.
If someone has to keep reminding people that they are an expert with many years experience, they probably aren't. When she talked about her role in Blade Runner I almost choked on air, considering she was not in that movie. It's just pay to say testimony, and I think the jury is getting that.
She meant the second Blade Runner, which Ana was in.
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@@TheRealGSmith yeah, exactly.. did you think I meant the blade runner that was before she was born?
I think they were talking about a different actress in blade runner that they were trying to compare amber heard to and what her success and earnings were projected to be
@@pinklynn2 Genuine question: who? The other actresses I remember from that movie are much lesser known than even Heard. Ana de Armas is the most appropriate comparison to Heard....if you squint real hard and look at it sideways. Armas actually has talent, and might actually get that 100 mil price tag Heard *wishes* she herself had.
As a nurse the ortho dr bothered me, as someone with mental health disorders (and a person in general) spiegal annoyed me, and as a cinephile the lady at the end angered me. It was really hard to get through but y’alls commentary makes it much easier 💙
Yes, it was a bad day for cinephiles.
Okay, I just got through a month of jury duty (never, ever want to do that again) and I did see the three "experts". I know more about movies than Katherine Arnold (or at least have seen more, since she didn't have much knowledge about film, she lost all credibility.) I don't doubt the other two had degrees and have worked in their professions for a while but I would never want either for any medical or psychological needs, and there lies the crux of my complaint. If I had been on the jury, I wouldn't have liked any of these witnesses. They all came off as arrogant and unlikeable. In spite of wanting to be unbiased, jurors are humans and no one likes to being condescended to (having or showing a feeling of patronizing superiority). If I were a juror, my thought would be "Is this honestly the best you can come up with?" I can't help but notice that the two legal teams personify the characters of their clients. One is calm, respectful, likeable and always in control, while the other is abrasive, argumentative, out of control and accusatory. I'll let you judge which is which.
We all know which is which. ;)
I keep thinking “if we, the general public, feel insulted, I can only imagine how the jury feels!”
I like how you condescendingly explained what condescended means, as if people are too dumb to know. Have a like you magnificent bastard.
I couldn't hear most of the testimony over the sound of a barrel being scraped.
😂😂😂
I have been eagerly awaiting this recap, as I caught some of the parts of yesterday's testimony, and it was simply outrageous. Thank you for the informative live streams and the to the point and excellent summarizations. They have been great for us in understanding what's happening :)
Came here to say this exact thing!!
So did I…I enjoy all her recaps.
same here...your recap really helps us mere mortal understand more on legal terms..😊
I didnt. I admit that I stopped watching this one after 3,5 minutes, because I dont understand your points Alyte... a lot of people are watching these recaps, because we expect a fair objective analysys, but right now I am diasppointed. The ortopedic surgeonts testimony was very important, because it proves that it is very likely, that JD lied under oath about Australia.
1.Amber did not say that he cut off that finger with the phone, she said, that she doesnt remember, and that is her best guess.
2.The doctor did not say, that he cut it off with a door, but he spesifically said, that he couldnt have cut it off with a bottle that way how he was describing it in his testimony.
So it is fair to say, that he probably lied, and that is a huge problem for him. JDs team was really trying to prove, that AH is lying about abuse, but they couldnt, they could only prove that she is lying about that money, what looks bed of course, but it is not that much related to the case... But JDs potential lie is much bigger. And the next witness made it so much worse for him, when he said that he has a history of cutting himself, and when he was describing how are drug use and dv related.
I would be really happy, if someone would finally give us an objedctive analysys... Because this wasnt an objecitve one
@@evus725 ha ha ha Amber only lied about the money, ha ha ha … classic
Did you hear the LawTube "What if Any" T Shirt was give by Cindy to Camille & one was given to Ben [?] as well.
I hope you get some well deserved rest after this is all over, you and the rest of the team that have been streaming and providing legal insight into all of this have been incredible!
Been waiting for this recap! I watch the whole trial when it's live but couldn't wait for your input on these witnesses!
You are INCREDIBLE lady! I can’t believe the amount of hard work you have put in for this case! Thank you for all you do 🥰
You guys have been fantastic. As a big f bomber I have no problems with the occasional outburst.😂 Runckle's humour is a highlight too. Best show in town!
One bad expert,the jury may forget,three in a row on the same day and the jury has lost trust in your case.
Please - you never rant! Love this clear and interesting channel. Passion for the law is entertaining and very welcome. Love your easy to grasp summaries of legal points tied directly to what is going on each day in both camps, with the Jury, and the crazy array of witnesses. So refreshing. ⚖⚖⚖😊
I cannot stop listening to this case! Either watching your lives and these amazing recaps! Thank you thank you for making this trial one of the most interesting things I have ever seen or listen to
Appreciate all of you and the other panels perspectives throughout this case! This is much more informative than current news media trying to spin their own narrative hoping that people who havent watch the trial will just believe them. I look forwarding to learning more from lawtube! Also love how our dog and cat are always special guests lol!
I absolutely love love love your channel. I so wanted to be a lawyer but never pursued that path, but love all things legal. You and your panel give such good insights to what is going on and I look forward to more trials that you will be covering. Keep up the good work. !
I did watch the full day. You are so right in your analysis. Hope the jury can see all these too. Thanks. You are so clear in your explanation. If you are in any court cases for plaintiff or defendants, i would love to see you in action.
Alyte, I commend your dedication to not only having to go through that shockingly overlong and tedious testimonies but to also suffer the indignation again with having to do a recap.
I love you and your guests covering the trail and the commentary is amazing, love when Kurt goes on a rant or has some jokes for us to keep me from sleeping. You all where part of my day for the whole trial and I will miss those days. But not having to hear Elaines "What if any" is nearly worth it 🤣 Plus there will be more things to come and I subscribed to all of you, this trail brought me to lawtube
Glad you're enjoying it, and welcome aboard!
@@LegalBytesMedia How much time does the heard legal team have left?
@@LunaS043 4 hours :) the judge said it at the end of the day
@@amandamin5664 4 hours. Let's hope they burn the rest of that time today.
Girl, you’re such a hard worker! I’m ever impressed that you do these ALL day live streams, then sum them up for us! Thank You!!
I've been following along live, and I still appreciate these Recap videos!
I am glad to see that after you took some time to collect your thoughts, you've changed your opinion on Wayne Dennison. To a layperson, Dennison is not bad - he's winning. He's dismantled three expert witnesses and made them look foolish. Yes, perhaps they would have seem foolish on on their own. And perhaps there aren't any specific take-a-ways I have after Dennison performs his cross, but if in general I think that the expert doesn't know what they're talking about, then Dennison did what he needed to do.
I think the word you're looking to describe Dennison is "unorthodox". But I would rather have a lawyer with an unorthodox approach that wins me the case over a lawyer with a concise, by-the-book approach that doesn't get the job done.
Really, the only thing potentially to ding Dennison on is the amount of time he uses., but Depp's team has a 4-to-1 time advantage. And to be honest, if Dennison's crosses were short and sweet, I would likely have specifics on the expert witness testimony and why they were wrong in my head. Rather, I'm left with a feeling of "I'm not sure I followed everything that went on, but that witness clearly did not know what they were talking about, so I'm just going to disregard all of their testimony and move onto other facts within the case."
I think this is why Kurt was getting dumped on a bit in yesterday's stream. Taking the stance that Dennison is a bad lawyer even though he got exactly what he wanted out of his cross examination solely because Dennison took an unorthodox approach feels like a pompous, Dr. Spiegel-like statement to make.
They wasted time trying to "prove" facts that go without saying. We all know you're likely to forget things and that your inhibitions are lowered when you're very drunk. What a waste of time Dr Spiegel was. He showed us nothing.
From Court TV: "Dr Spiegel is an embarrassment to all expert witnesses. It seems like they might have called central casting for someone who looks like a pyschiatrist."
Alyte, your analysis is truly awesome, clear and concise explanation to those of us who are not in the legal field. Thank you! Can’t wait for the next one!
Idk if I've ever felt more invested in a verdict that involved celebrities. But I have no regrets, just anxiety about the verdict. It feels obvious to me that she's lying. I hope there isn't some dumb technicality that robs him. Yesterday was surreal. This trial has been super unique and interesting imo.
I feel EXACTLY the same, never been invested in these kind of things, and I’m afraid he’ll loose to some kind of ridiculous technicalities. I feel so much for him and I want justice for this kind gentleman!
@@laylaserizawa4538 i don’t think it’s a technicality. The burden of proof by a preponderance of the evidence is on Johnny so if the jury thinks that Johnny pushed Amber once, then, technical, or not, he could lose. It’s his case after all. I REALLY hope the jury doesn’t believe it but Whitney maybe someone they feel is credible. Either way, he has won in the court of public opinion. I don’t think Amber’s counter claim will be accepted, though.
Typically I don't care about celebritys. In fact I vaugly remember hearing about Johnny years and years ago and just thought oh turns out an other celebrity is an ars hole. Then totally forgot about it until I heard some of the tapes a few years back. I had no idea who amber was until that point either.
This is an amazing recap for the big moments! Great job bytes!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you. It was an excellent presentation. You summarized everything beautifully.
You are doing such a great job! I am SO appreciative.
I am really surprised at AH’s weak case and how embarrassing.. it’s a JOKE and we don’t need to be experts to discern that.. it says a lot about what the jury could be thinking right now.
I’ll admit, In the moment I wasn’t a big fan of Dennison but looking back now, I think he did a very decent job. And I knew he was just trying to get to 5pm, lol
Whew a hot mess. They tried to clean up Dr. Hughes’ testimony and made it worse. The last witness was the best one she has had.
The alst witness being the expert who hasn't seen any movies?
@@TheRealGSmith she presented better in her testimony. The content of her testimony is a whole different story. The fact that she even mentioned Amber Heard in the same sentence as Jason And Zendaya was just utterly outrageous. When I say the “best” witness Amber has had, you have the consider that literally all of Amber’s witnesses were trash. This witness was just the shiniest trash.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, I absolutely agree with you.
This was one of the craziest days in court. Just when I thought it couldn’t get ANY more nuts. David Spiegel needs his own therapist.
I love the way Spiegel and the doctor were talking to the jury about things they “thought it was important for them to know” instead of just answering the question. I would call this day a trip to the circus as all the clowns were trying to get into the car called “expert”.
My impression after seeing Amber Heard's "expert" witnesses is that the higher paid an expert is the worse they are (I know that this isn't true, but dang her team sure knows how to pick them).
Great point about all the conflicting stories Amber's side has produced to explain what happened to JD's finger. I had forgotten most of them 😅😂 Heard and her team make me think of the phrase, "Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks." 🤦♂️🤭 Gr8 vid
Your live streams and these recaps are absolutely perfect! Thank you, thank you! Keep up the great work!
When you're finding experts to testify to things that can't actually be proven, odds are you're going to find lots of morally ambiguous people.
Especially when some are getting paid $5k per day
the thing that got me about dr spiegel is that his evidence for johnny being an abuser is his conclusion that johnny had narcissistic traits. but then in his redirect, his evidence of johnny having narcissistic traits was johnny being an abuser. like…that is circular logic, my guy!!
Thank you much appreciated💜quick and very informative and to the point and everything was covered well done looking forward to watching your next coverage
No mention of the APA definition of Goldwater rule and the weird assertion that the expert made about it nullifying ALL expert testimony? Also, that witness was incredibly combative over some other weird stuff.
THIS. That’s *exactly* my problem with these experts. I’m completely open to them telling me why Depp’s in the wrong and Heard’s in the right. But the minute their expert opinion is ripped apart because they only cherry picked evidence that supported what they’d already concluded, I feel they’ve misled me and wasted my time. Do your research!
A comment about the emotional effects of following this trial, including various commentaries: as a counselling psychologist who has worked with trauma (sexual abuse and torture), and also documenting my work on my own traumas, I'm finding this trial quite triggering. When Amber Heard was testifying I could barely watch a few minutes. I saw a bit of Dr. Spiegel yesterday - when I received a few memes comparing him to Dr. Brown from "Back to the Future", the cosmic order made a teensy bit more sense. In terms of traumas being activated, I'd say there has been very few media events as powerful as this case. I've been taking an interest in this case only in the past two weeks and I've been careful to monitor my own reactions to various commentary sites. With some sites the commentator's physical disposition end up being an enactment of my own cringe feelings, which can be validating (maybe something to do with mirror neurons...). I noticed that I look forward to Lyte's recaps as I find them soothing, mainly because my intellect is being engaged in an emotionally balanced way. So the video above, at 13:52, there is a lovely moment where Alyte says she got "worked up", it left me smiling and thinking "please go nuts", it can only validate what everybody is bottling up.
I watched your entire livestream yesterday. Being a law student this fascinating but not being American I'm a little bewildered by the whole process so it was super helpful to have you and the rest of lawtube there
What a CRAZZZZZY day it was! I was LMFAO....thank you so much for the fab recap, ALeyta!
“What if any” at this point makes me physically flinch. Like actual cringe. Elaine plz
What if any, what if any, what if any?!
I love LegalBytes,
I checked the channel today a couple of times eagerly waiting for this recap, since the hilarious witness of yesterday. The so called Psychiatrist, who clearly needs therapy himself
He likely is in it. Most seem to be. He is pretty clearly medicated in my opinion. Seems to have bad cotton mouth.
I listened to most of yesterday’s testimonies and if I was a juror, I would definitely agree with you. Thanks!
Once again, so glad to see your update. I just couldn’t watch these witnesses. I watched enough to get the gist of what they were testifying to, and fast forwarded through the rest. I can’t see what benefit they are providing to Amber’s counterclaim.
The “smashing a finger in a door” thing - didn’t Johnny report that he smashed it in an accordion door at the hospital to keep Amber out of it?
On the finger/angle thing:
I tried this out, resting my hand on the side of my desk and imagining a bottle had been thrown at me from the right side. My automatic response was to use my right hand to slightly push away to dodge it, meaning that my hand turned over towards the left, slightly. My index was turned about 45 degrees, my other fingers lost immediate contact with the edge of the desk, exposing the side of the index. Would sit perfectly with the injury.
My only issue is how there's no injury on any other part of the hand, when a large glass bottle explodes and cuts off a part of one finger. How's that even possible?
@@sakethedpuganti5697 it didn't cut off the finger. It crushed it so hard that the bone broke and tissue got torn off. Then, after it crushed the finger and Johnny was likely in the process of jerking his hand away, the bottle shattered. And depending on the angle of the throw, the shards could've mostly flown down while the hand was moving up and away.
Please don't try the bottle throw at home!
@@TheRealGSmith Haha. I did say "imagine."
@@sakethedpuganti5697 Bottles are cylinders, right? So, maybe the thick base of the bottle hit the finger first, continued to make contact with the bar at which point is broke, and the other side sliced as it continued downwards. Crush injuries will tear skin badly, though, which seems to have been the main factor here.
Really appreciate your calm, clear, respectful analysis, thank you
Thank you again for the catch up on Trial day as I didn't have enough time in my day to see the second half of the day when i was sleeping.
Hey, I’m surprised the discussion about Goldwater rule didn’t come up in this recap? Hope for a separate video? I feel it is most important for all the psychiatric expert witnesses as Jonnys side did examine Amber but Ambers side didn’t examine Jonny. Shouldn’t this be a rule within the courtroom too for future trials?
I watched a lawyer's reaction video. He said that Amber has claimed psychological damages due to his abuse, that's why she was examined by psychiatrist from Johnny's side. However, Johnny hasn't claimed any psychological damages, so he was not assessed.
Johnny refused to be examined for one thing. Secondly, the Goldwater rule is applicable only to APA members, and this “Dr” violated the rule by giving his opinion.
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That's not accurate. AH's team moved for Johnny to be examined and court refused motion. Court, not Johnny.
Watching these witnesses after having come home from a root canal and temporary crown procedure at the dentist, I can certainly say that their testimonies were much more painful. The psychiatrist and all of the live chat comments had me crying tears of laughter, so thanks to all of the followers for the comedic distraction.
Hope you are recovering well.
@@carolinemcgovern8059 Thank you :)
@@carolynhance5588 How are you doing now? Been praying for you.
THANK YOU! was looking forward to this!
Wasn’t able to keep up with the trial, these videos are so helpful and yes.. rant! Thank you so much for your amazing content
Lol, problem is, even Amber's own acting coach said amber told her that Johnny did himself with thw vodka bottle right after it happened... directly contradicting her own testimony about the phone.
That surgeon just made it harder for amber and for the jury... Now the jury will appreciate Johnny for giving them a way clearer picture unlike amber, but most importantly i hope the jury realise the fact that this is what liars do, they blur things out and never give you a clear image, they also give you too much "info" hoping it would confuse you.
#justiceforjohnnydepp
Thank you! So informative as always.
Thank you as always for the recap, I am from Germany and looking forward to it every day. I watched the hole trial and your knowledge helps a lot. I think they brought in the door theorie because that is what Johnny told the doctor in the emergency room. He lied there because he didn't want to get Amber in trouble. So for me it made sense to bring that up. It didn't make sense at all to hear from Amber that it was smashed with the phone. So in fact Amber came up with a new version. But I found the explanation from that last witness not convincing because he described the position of the hand wrong when the bottle hit it, so all he said was rubbish, as Ms. Vasquez pointed out perfectly.