How Do Muslims Face Mecca When Praying in Space?
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The first Muslim person in space was Royal Saudi Air Force pilot Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud in 1985 aboard the United States shuttle Discovery. He was followed up by the first Muslimah in space, Anousheh Ansari, who, upon immigrating to America from Iran in her teens subsequently got a degree in electrical engineering and computer science and then, not long after, cashed in her life-savings to co-found Telecom Technologies Inc.
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it is worth mentioning that the intention is the priority, Muslims often pray on airplanes and on the back of their camels to whatever the direction it is facing; it is a special permit during travel.. also Muslims are allowed to pray to any direction as their best guess, if they are not sure where the Kaabah (Kiblat) is at..
as for the last city ruling, this has been followed since Muslims went to the arctics where the day and night last 6 months or so.. this is NOT a recent new thing..
and finally, Muslims are encouraged NOT to fast when traveling, whether you are on space, on an airplane or on a bus.. however they are encouraged to replace those days with fasting or feeding the hungry.. AFAIK..
I think Dr. Abdali said it best. If you’re more focused on doing the prayers and fasting correctly rather than the meaning behind them, you’re missing the point of the ritual entirely. It’s the thought that counts
Hey SJWs, stop trying to defend the murderous religion that we try and shrug off. Don't act like it isn't in dire need of reform when it openly encourages if not requires one to oppress women and to kill non-believers.
Auren I wasn’t defending them per say. I’m a pretty big critic of Islam myself. I feel that what I said is applicable to all religions
Islam contains many sects with many different beliefs some of which are highly oppressive and should be criticised, however only a fool assumes all Muslims have the same beliefs, the main problem is wahabisim and terrorism related to that(often sponsored by Saudi Arabia who also still behead people but yet people ignore that and pretend they are a great friend to the west). Religion does not determine morality your upbringing and the scenarios you encounter and the information you obtain throughout your life does.
I am agnostic and let me say this ANYONE who uses their religion to justify violence or selfish or otherwise unethical actions should be criticised.
Also calling people you disagree with SJWs makes you equally as childish and idiotic as the segments of the other side who call everyone they disagree with nazis.
The problem with the holy books of the major religions is you can use them to justify ANYTHING when it comes to religion few people are literalists(fundamental hypocritical psychos usually imo) therefore it is the interpretation that is most important.
+Silverdeathgamer290
"I found an X who didn't do anything bad, therefore no X has ever done anything wrong ever."
Tired argument is tired. Stop pulling that cop out.
What percent of muslims say murdering to defend Islam is "Sometimes or often justified" again?
YES. YES, YES, YES, AND THIS.
A friend of mines son writes science fiction stories and since they are Muslim this issue has come up. I had no answers so thank you very much for this video! I will be sharing it with them, they'll be thrilled!
Hey SJWs, stop trying to defend the murderous religion that we try and shrug off. Don't act like it isn't in dire need of reform when it openly encourages if not requires one to oppress women and to kill non-believers.
Auren, - A childhood friend has kids one of whom loves to write science fiction gaining more and more interest in science which I'm all for. He's the only one that still is still living at home. The other two have kids of their own. Now, if you're wondering what this has to do with what you're saying, me too! What I'm saying deals with my initial comment, yours deals with a different subject which I have no interest in.
You seem to think that the Old Testament itself in its base form isn't oppressive towards women and violent. It goes all around, bud.
Basically, all I'm saying is that the base of religions can be very violent, but it becomes more of a cultural one by area than religious one after a point.
Auren There is no "it". Just like there isn't a single form of Christianity. You can't reform Islam, because Islam is already broken up into individual interpretations of the Islam.
Your suggestion for reform of Islam makes as much sense as saying that Abrahamic religion is in need of reform. There's simply too many ways to be this thing for your accusation to be applicable to individual believers.
Also, your comment has nothing to do with the OP.
I have a Muslim convert in my family. When he visited me in California along with a Muslim friend he asked me at sunset which direction was East as we were driving. I stopped the car at a rectangular city park on a North/South grid where they both found a quiet spot and began to kneel toward the East. His friend then rose and they both changed their direction to North East. Out of politeness I did not ask, but had to presume that the friend wanted to use the Great Circle method for a more accurate direction to Mecca from where we were.
But you don't have to face towards Mecca if you pray inside a car or any vehicle, and I'm a muslim.
some people say you cant pray inside a car if its moving because technically you can very easily just stop it on the side and pray properly. Others would agree with you, as would I. The prophet basically said that when given two paths to the same goal that theres no need to take the overly complicated one if the simple one works fine and your intent is good (ie fasting while travelling vs making up the fast after your travels are done, both can be done but the second is easier)
The asked me to stop at a public place where they could get out to do their obligation. We were in no hurry. I have no religion myself, just a mind to be courteous to those who are.
and thats a good thing, we need more people like that in this world. if everyone just got along with everyone without pointlessly questioning everything we would definitely be in a better world by now.
Explosive Mayhem But if I dont pointlessly question everything, how am I expected to understand it?
I love this channel, it answers the questions I didn't even know I had or would have ever thaught of asking. I don't know how you guys do it!
I remember an Ender's Game spinoff where Muslim students at Battle Academy had to figure out where to pray (which is one step more complicated than on the ISS, since the Academy is a _rotating_ space station). Card's solution was to have them pray facing the Sun, which...well, I can't blame him for not knowing the results of a conference which happened well after he published his book, but I somehow doubt he asked a Muslim friend for their best guess. "The Sun" doesn't sound like a good approximation of Mecca to me.
Now I'm wondering what will happen when Muslims go out into deep space. Pray toward the earth?
Once you're interstellar, it's about as accurate as you'd get. Praying toward Sol would be the best approximation, as the level of accuracy available for a human body at that distance makes any attempt at greater accuracy, when outside the solar system, worthless and likely to cause greater degree of inaccuracy due to calculation errors than not.
...You watched the video, right?
Sun worship actually sounds more feasible than believing an imaginary being looking down in judgement on us.
Sidekick - All Abrahamic faiths, including Islam, are Sun worshipers. They just changed the definition of their god as time passed.
How do Muslims observe Ramadan in the polar regions during the polar night or midnight sun periods, if there's no sunrise or sunset?
Communities come to their own consensus on matters like this. Generally they say "Go by the sunrise/sunset for a place in your timezone for the same latitude as Mecca. Or go with a 12-hour fast by the clock.
Cool... Thanx for the info. :>
Oh, it's simple really. They don't. They just lie to themselves that they do, by inventing some alternate rules that will let them pretend that they do while actually surviving without changing latitudes to get dinner.
Also, watches, calendars and apps.
and what about the south or north pole? you got half a year of day and half a year of night there. Would be an interesting topic too.
Thanks, TIFO for making me question things that have nothing to do with me and I’ll never use... and making me actually want to know the answer
Laura Ward yes. Same here.
well just in case somewhere in the future you will be going to space. who knows. at least we dont have to sit and discuss this matter again in the future
Look Eastway chill😂 I said I’ll never use it. For the foreseeable future, 1) I’m not converting and 2) I’m not going to space.
Suprisingly chill and pragmatic solutions I feel. Always nice to see examples of religion adapting and evolving to reality around it.
Most do, we just don't see it most of the time because it doesn't involve us and it doesn't involve someone stabbing someone else.
It is actually a fundamental part of Islam to evolve according to new situations. It is called Ijtihad. For example, blood transfusion was not a thing back then so there is no ruling by the Prophet on this issue therefore musim scholars had to sit with scientists to determine whether such thing would be permissible in Islam or not. On the other hand drinking alcohol is explicitly forbidden in Islam by the orders of Quran and the Prophet and no kind of evolution in Islamic thinking can change that.
Religions that don’t evolve are the ones that die out. It’s a defense mechanism to hide their bullshit. “Oh everyone thinks gay marriage is okay now? Well our religion is suddenly okay with it too! We’re not bigots, we swear!”
Kevin Benoit yes, defense mechanism to hide their bullshit. Like constant mocking of other religions to hide the underlying bigotry... Sing with me brother as we hold our Atheist banner high and crush it down on the skulls of the savage believers IN THE NAME OF HOLY SCIENCE!
Dogma is still dogma, crusading against religion is still a fucking crusade. It's fine to not believe, its not ok to be a belligerent shithead over it.
Mine is no ok with gay anything. Don't give a shit what that sounds like.
Simon, I take back everything I have said. Your pronunciation of the Arabic names and words was spot on flawless. And adding the High Flight "I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth" by John Gillespie Magee, Jr. reference to Reagan's Challenger eulogy was a nice touch. It's one of my favorite poems. Kudos to you and your research department.
"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds, - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air....
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
- Put out my hand, and touched the face of God." - John Gillespie Magee, Jr
Thank you so much for this video. I was thinking about this for the past couple of weeks.
The best thing about this video, in my opinion, is it was well researched. Thanks once again
How do Muslims face Mecca when praying in space? Simple, they ask the Meccanic. :P
enoughofyourkoicarp 😂😂😂😂😂😂
enoughofyourkoicarp lame af
Gold!
funny!😂
Life is better when people like you exist.
This is a very well researched video and it makes me begin to appreciate what is a beautiful, but misunderstood, religion.
I had actually wondered about this for a sci-fi story I wrote some time ago. Fascinating to see it tackled in the real world.
Proud to be a Malaysian
Sumi Encem hello from indonesia
This was wonderful. Well balanced and informative. The one part of Islam I feel gets overlooked is the practicality. The "if you can..." is throughout the faith. It's all about making the effort. Thank you for sharing this!😁❤✌
Sheldon Robertson Hopefully you are aware not all people who follow Islam are the ones you're referring to. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worship the same God. Pick your path and be kind. One Love for All💚💞 ❤✌
Sheldon Robertson Your deleting your rude comment and replacing it with another is not a positive move. I'm not really asking for myself but more to encourage you to consider the consequences of your words. QUESTION why are you saying disparaging remarks about a construct to me? Please think about what you're doing.
Sheldon Robertson I'm sad for you and anyone who has to interact with you. I wish you peace.
They are forced to follow the book to the letter, except when in gets inconvinient then you can ease up on your shows of fate...
Pentti Hilkuri islam is a practical religion..if you cant do it cuz of sickness or its beyond your ability,then you don't have to do it..what matters is the intention..
Thoroughly researched and planned. Good academic content. loved this video. thanks for making people aware of how rational we are and how flexible Islam is.
It's nice to see that this channel is not focus on a particular type of audience and instead just being as general as it wants. This video could also be something to attract more viewers and expand the channel but even if so, you're doing it right. A lot of informational video from this channel are irrelevant to an individual (myself included) but there are a few that may be of actual use to that individual or just fun facts to know about. I wonder what will my Muslim friends will answer if I ask them the question.
Excellent video. Very informative, I have always wondered about this and have never found any solid facts about it. Thank you for your research.
When ur driving on a long trip u don't aim your car towards Mecca, u just pray facing the front of the car. So as long as you pray facing the Earth you're technically ok
I think that has more to do with not wanting Muslims to have more traffic accidents than the rest of the world combined. Islam is much stricter about prayer direction when you can freely face any direction.
I mean, rule IV
...or you could stop or wait and go to a musholla/mosque
Probably face the earth I would guess?🧐
In low-Earth orbit, where most humans in space are, Earth takes up close to half of the available directions. (And there are a _lot_ of directions when you can rotate freely on all three axes.) "Towards Earth" is true, but won't be very helpful until we get a lot of people on other planets.
Timothy McLean except we always face the same side of the moon;3
You would be right. According to the video a bunch of Islamic religious scholars said "Face the Earth when you start to pray. If that's not practical, it's the thought that counts, not the gymnastics."
G Unit at the prayer time they search their God. Inside earth and outside earth... That's why they face down butt up to the sky, they butt down face up 😂 just kidding
This seems like a series of very practical solutions. And I can't fault the logic of "its more important that you pray then you worry about how you pray"
Whenever I see this sort of question, I always say “very carefully” to myself and laugh hysterically. Great first date technique.
Good and thoroughly researched info not like all those people who hear just one person point of view and accept it as the only true!!! Good Work team Today I found out!
@Sheldon Robertson, nope it is not and I am glad it is not.
I hope they make peace with the klingons and borgs once they get the chance to meet them.
borg. it's borg, not borgs.
syaondri Resistance is futile...so they say.
Auren using anime photo? Your opinion doesn't count
Donld trump
kirby march Barcena Muslims are like the real life mix between Klingons and Borg. They love war and they're brainwashed.
Thank you for answering a question I didn't know I had until I saw the title. Super interesting to think about!
Oh I am so glad to know this! It was aksing myself this question for years!
I've genuinely wondered this so often. Great video!
You did? :D
Hey SJWs, stop trying to defend the murderous religion that we try and shrug off. Don't act like it isn't in dire need of reform when it openly encourages if not requires one to oppress women and to kill non-believers.
Auren
Out of everything ive been called in my life, never once did i ever think id be called an SJW. Im screencapping this!
Gg my dude.
Kat
Im studying engineering and in the off 0.001% chance i get to go to space WHAT WOULD I DO?!
WALZ97 one of many things I never thought about.
I'm just gonna read the comments real quick
edit: kinda regretting it but lets keep going
It has gotten worse.
Slipping the surly bonds of earth. That poem makes me weep every time
This was the question I asked to my hoca when I was 10, he couldn't answer and thus my loss of faith started.
Why is it easier to hold my breath above water versus under water.
Lieutenant Normie
Not sure if you are taking the piss or not but. Underwater the pressure is greater on the body. When you hold your breath you also have the " weight " of the water trying to force the air out. Something you don't have when above water.
The pressure of water suppresses the air inside your body. That's what makes it harder for you to hold your breath in the water.
BigBadBampa Okay Mr.Know Everything 😂 just kidding, Who needs Simon when we have the comments section.
BigBadBampa Okay Mr.Know Everything 😂 just kidding, Who needs Simon when we have the comments section.
Actually, thanks to the mammalian diving reflex it's actually easier to hold your breath underwater (directly under the surface).
Religion didn't think about man actually reaching the heavens.
Which when we did should have been enough to put an end to religion. But here we are.
In the quran there is mention of such.It is only through gods leave as is the case of everything.Peace
Actually there are several myths regarding it in a number of faiths and most religions are less about finding god and more about being in tune with the world around you both seen and unseen. Basically the idea that things are set in stone in religion comes mostly from puritans and other Protestant beliefs systems. A shamanist on the other hand might treat an asteroid with the same respect as a mountain on the ground. A helenist would likely worship the gods of earth and mix their beliefs with others wherever they landed.
I worship a being represented by the moon, what do I do if I leave to live on mars? Appeal to the beings there and find a patron there. Space is more of a problem for Protestants of the Abrahamic religions. Orthodox and catholic Christians are pretty good with space, and so is Islam.
+dasvedas4
The Quran is an interesting old book, many of the ideas were copied from older scriptures like Christianity. A lot of the old books are very interesting and do contain wisdom that still rings true today.
Of course they were all made up by man though, that is glaringly obvious. Nostradamus predicted stuff that came true, was that because he had some divine power? No, he used logic, imagination and common sense.
mate the quarn has had many MANY statements that science has only discovered in the past century
and its identical not close but literally identical
this is a bad example but i cant think of a better one of the top of my head, but it describes how you shouldnt sleep on your stomach, and only recently did we realise that it damages your stomach
and most of the quarn is metaphors and not to be taken literallly, and therefore interpreted wrongly sometimes
Seems the conference came up with a very pragmatic answer! Great video. Have there been any similar conferences/rulings by other religious groups about how to carry out their rites/religious practices while in space?
Haven't seen this one before. Really informative on a subject I've never considered before
I don’t know what’s worse:
1. “First person to pee on the moon,”
OR
2. This seems to imply there was more than one person who urinated ON THE MOON!!!!
There were piss bags on the lander. They didn't actually take their dick out and pee onto the ground
William Booker 🤨💡
OHHHHHHHH!!!
Cheers!
So hang on a second, if according to Christianity (and perhaps Judaism as well) aliens don't exists, then how come aliens are fine according to Islam. Considering that all three of these religions are Abrahamic religions, I am assuming that all three would have similar ideas about extra-terrestrial species. By the way I am not mocking or joking here; this is a legitimate question. I am also pleasantly surprised at how flexible Islam is when it comes to space travel.
Icarus I’m not sure about Aliens and Islam. But what Islam in fact mentions in the holy book (Quran) is the existence of different dimensions. The existence of 7 dimensions is mentioned in The Sura (الطلاق, 12). But god did say that he shall allow us explore his vast and many creations in the universe. So, who knows, Aliens might be one of them. Only god knows
Icarus The Catholic Church has no official stance on aliens, however it doesn't seem to contradict the teachings of the Church. Aliens would still be creatures of God since God created all life. If they were intelligent, then you would have the question of whether they have a soul like ours? If they did, then they would also be susceptible to sin and would need to be saved. These are all what ifs of course.
PitiedIndiana 12 can’t argue with that. Except for the last part.
The Dark Wolf Don’t Muslims have the concept of sin? And if they do then wouldn’t they need to be saved from their sins as well?
PitiedIndiana 12 In Islam it is believed that those who do not know of Islam or were only exposed to a warped idea of it, then they are not held responsible for their disbelief. So there are no "sins" for them to be "saved" from. Also Muslims believe that Islam is for Humans and the Jinn. So if Aliens were a separate creation, then I would assume they wouldn't be held to the standard of a human centric religion.
Yet another great informative video that takes a non biased on such a topic. The quest for knowledge and overall betterment of the human race and our surroundings should be the endeavor for all of us, no matter what race, religion, gender or any other thing some can come up with to try to separate us.
I am a muslim engineer from Egypt wo aspires to become a rocket scientist . Thank you for making this video , it was a question that i sometimes asked myself . Thank you for all the people who commenters espescially the non-muslim ones for their kindness respect and comprehension .
*THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO* !
Comon guys
Simple answer could have been, since he is a traveller constantly circulating around the earth he can miss out on his prayers and on arrival make up for them.
Good idea
Ikr
wildgun95 What if I was in space for a year?? I can't pray for all the prayers that I missed in a year.
Manuel Calavera you dont have to, God is above this and he knows best.
wildgun95 but you said make up for them.
The peeing on the moon was tbe best fact 😂😂😂 man ily Simon!
Fascinating video!
Thank you soo much for making it.
I was just wondering this yesterday!
its simple, we face the direction of the earth. we don't have to look for the precise direction, because if we do, then muslim on the other side of the earth of Mecca should pray face-down
Seems like a good solution
I never thought of muslims praying face down before
Great video and such a well thought out answer!
Wow. A genuinely fascinating topic I’ve never considered before. Well done TIFO team.
Always striving for peaceful relations with aliens is a noble goal, but one must never lose sight of the fact that the aliens could have a different opinion in this matter.
If they fight first you are allowed to fight back we have to maintain peace but if fought fight back while keeping the morals of war not killing women and children etc
We had a 2 day meeting for a religious problem in space
Thank you so much for making this video! :)
Thank you.. this is really something that you dun find anywhwre.. unless u really wanted to..
Nicely done
S P A C E J I H A D
What am I doing? Lol
Oh, this comment section is gonna be fun...
RassilonTDavros It is, get the ban butten ready.
This video was veeeryyyyy informative ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
6:28 Its important to note that since there is a disagreement between scholars you are encouraged to take any side that you see fit, both sides are valid until a consensus is reached...
It's a testament to the mental gymnastics humans are capable of that someone could be on a space station and still feel the need to pray.
I'd be praying too if I know that only a few feet of wall separates me from an agonizing, silent death in the cold void of space.
FlyingFree333 to be fair, traveling at 20.000kph at 100km+ altitude in a tin can, I might start praying too.
praying is more for teaching discipline and time management and having inner peace. and here you are leaving intolerant comment on a CZcams video that has got nothing to do with you, so go off i guess
AimanNurAdlina woah dude take a chill pill. They are not contradicting the religion, just relax. They are merely stating about the act of praying. If we are saying under the context of praying, the topics expands more than just islam, other religions also have prayers. Don't force people to 'lay off' because they aren't a part of the particular topics. Everyone has their own opinion and we need to acknowledge that. I'm not saying that you are wrong but the act of forcing people to lay off is just plain rude to me
Adam Iman issa meme babe (can't believe i have to explain the "but go off i guess" meme on the internet but here we are)
This is amazing omg :D
Sheldon Robertson man what is wrong with every positive post i see you at the bottom of the filth hating
Sheldon Robertson if i can prove you wrong will you consider it ?
Sheldon Robertson here's a simple answer for that ask.ismailignosis.com/article/84-did-prophet-muhammad-marry-a-9-year-old-girl
When it comes to Islam It’s all about intentions! MashAllah
This answer was revealed to me when I saw the movie _Pitch Black_ (2004), which shares the universe of _Riddick_ . The movie had an Islamic family where they somehow figured on what direction to pray towards; they pray towards the direction of the Earth. The planet they were on had 3 suns also.
82 triggered atheists
Loved this video
I lived in pakistan 7 years, I once asked a muslim friend how one would pray if they don't know which direction mecca is in. He answered that you 'listen to where your heart tells you it is'.
Would you be able to do an episode on how the body works? Things like calories, or kidneys, intestines, how it works, what happens when we ingest things?
In my honest opinion, to move forward as a species and succeed at expanding beyond the reaches of our one world. Old ways will have to be forgotten, social divides like religion, race identity, gender bias and others need to be forgotten. Or we're going to get to another world, and it will be the colonial age all over again. And we'll end up fighting between worlds the same way we currently squabble based on things that are utterly trivial now.
Hepad
Not really no. First of, IQ is bullshit as a measure of intelligence. No one even scores the same on similar tests day to day. Second, Intelligence is not determined by genetic factors at all, there's no scientific evidence to support any such claim. It's worthless angry people like you who'd be better off getting culled. Too busy finding reasons to hate your fellow man to do anything useful. There are plenty enough inbred mouth breathers of every racial denomination, and you damned well know it.
And what does letting go of religion have to do with race anyhow? FFS.
@@shirbir120 Just because something wasn't diagnosed in the past doesn't mean it didn't exist, that's a fallacy. Stop making excuses for conservatism.
@@shirbir120 Punctuation and basic grammar, do you use it?
@@shirbir120 Hahaha, the fact you think women don't deserve equality, GTFO here you sexist looser. Take our eugenics with you too.
You revealed your true colours fast; you're just a bigot who wants to hold the world back.
@@kauske I give you facts, researches proven by Institutes. If you cant digest the truth than shut up dont embarass yourself. Me bigot?? Who are you? The Moral Indicator of the World?
The fact that you think Man and Woman is equal already validates that you are not so bright in understanding of biology or human nature. Man and Woman are both important but not equal, both are designed to complement each other. The fact you cant distinguish this given that even in Sports Female and Male is separated shows your lack of critical assessment simply following emotions. No wonder they are sick people propagating gender neutrality even on kids without any proven research or anything. If you think I am holding the World Back than you must know that materialistic achievement is not the sole indicator of success. Islam teaches on sustainable growth in which we do not rip off the world and forcing people to work to death like the western did based on this interest loan based economy.
It's really sad to see this comment section blow up with disgusting comments, all I saw was a really interesting and informative video and while I will never need to know this in life it was a very interesting video to watch and learn about how a certain religion would deal with their beliefs while not even on our planet. Keep up the cool work Simon!
Domian: Well it was really to be expected, wasn't it? After all, this was a very bizarre 'niche' hypothetical question that only would be relevevant or pertinent to those who adhere to the Muslim religion. I think that the reason for all those odd comments has to do with the fact that he's posing a highly-specific hypothetical question concerning a minority (at least in the US) belief system of which a big chunk of Simon's viewers don't ascribe to....thereby making this 'factoid' basically irrelevant and completely unrelatable or the majority of these non-muslim viewers. It would be no different than an athiest watching a video with the premise of ...... what would Catholics do if they lived on a planet with no wheat, and therefore unable to create the communion wavers???? So yeah........... I can see how one not affiliated with such a belief system can arrive at a 'don't know, don't care' attitude really quickly. And unfortunately, those who view a specific content as being totally inconsequential, insignificant, and foreign to their own world view.... are like a tiny step away from being the authors of nasty comments. Not condoning it, of course.........but it is what it is!
i see no such comments
+lexfacitregem I definitely agree with what you're saying except for the hypothetical part. He gave us two examples of Muslim astronauts that went up into space already so I wouldn't say this is a hypothetical. Rare though, absolutely. But as silly as this can be to some people I feel like it still has a place in today's world, especially with how much we're trying to accomplish in the way of space-related things, and even if people can't relate well to it I wish they didn't have to be so nasty because of it. I can understand the point of view you're explaining, though, just makes me a little disheartened to see the horrible comments
+Stage3 "A better question; where will Muslims face once they inevitably blow up Mecca?" "how do muslims face mecca after a car bombing?" "I don't give a FCK about how those retards should find mecca in space. They shouldn't get in space in the first place." All copied and pasted from people in this comment section. I don't know what comment section you're reading but this one is full of hate, maybe try looking harder.
Domian: Thanks for your extremely cogent and intelligent response to my comment! I totally take on board what you have said... and after reading it....... I think I may have sort-of misused the word 'hypothetical'. I know that he gave a real-life example of a Muslim in space.......hence nixing the 'hypothetical' part of the arguement in the technical sense........but what I really was trying to convey is 'hypothetical' in the sense that this scenario would only possibly apply to a sub-miniscule portion of the populace, so as to make it 'virtually' hypothetical........after all.... how many muslims planning on going to space are going to have to even contend with this theological dilelmma? But yeah......I totally take on board and appreciate your response. I just wish that there were more people like you on the CZcams comments section...then maybe there could exist *gasp* some learning and understanding .......as well as productive debates! Well......I guess ........one can only dream! Thanks again for your reply! :-D
Very interesting question i never knew i wanted an answer to. Good stuff.
Interesting video. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like they put a lot of thought into it, tho.
I've got no problem with anyone being religious as long as their beliefs don't negatively affect anyone else and they don't get any kind of special treatment like extra prayer breaks from work that others wouldn't get.
I've heard and see people say that alot, but its wishful thinking. Crazy people wanting to convert others, and then we got extremists that blow others up/terror attacks. I've stopped believing in that naive shit. Just look at germany and their situation
Sashabizz4 judging by your profile picture I don’t think your above the age of 12 so where are you working again?
Blessings extremists aren’t Muslims simple as that there not following the fundamentals of true Islam
Sashabizz4 that’s a very stupid reply judging Over 1,000,000,000,000 current followers on a few abusers really think before you reply to me again that’s like me seeing a Christan do a school shooting and immediately think all Christians are murders
Michael Parker Literally addressed in the video. If their duties keep them from praying it is acceptable for them to shorten their prayers or not pray at all, however they should make up the prayers when they have time to do so.
It's a trick question, folks. The earth is round. If you pray "to" Mecca, your prayers are flying off into space. Science wins again. Ta da!
Don't tell them, they didn't notice yet.
"Early Islamic scholars recognized earth's sphericity,[54] leading Muslim mathematicians to develop spherical trigonometry[55] in order to further mensuration and to calculate the distance and direction from any given point on the Earth to Mecca. This determined the Qibla, or Muslim direction of prayer."
thats wiki I couldnt be bothered to find a real source
is it perfect? no. but does it have to be? no. so why do you care?
the only direction the muslim prayers are going is downward to hell.
Who created the Big Bang? And who created whatever created that? And if it was already there who put it there?
When you find the answer to this then science can win.
Thank you, u gave me an new way to think
Great video. Always thought about this subject. Peace
How do Muslims know where to face in space?
The same way all religious people know anything.
An authority figure told them so.
you sir just won my gratitude. Deepest comment ive seen in a while.
But how do authority figures know these things? ?_?
WARNING!!! don't scroll down....just don't.
Why not?
That's how I got here. And how I get my cheap laughs.
How else am I going to find some low-tier comedy to eat popcorn to?
I see many words written carefully and words written to spread hate.
Fire Gamer lol
I actually didn't know about that "Wherever" stipulation for Islamic prayer, that's actually pretty awesome. Just imagining a Muslim space explorer on some far away planet, having a momentary bit of panic wondering how they could possibly face Mecca, then being like: "Oh yeah, I can literally face any direction I want."
fun fact aldrin actually said the first thing on the moon: "Contact light" when the LM landed on the moon. yes Armstrong said the first words on the surface of the moon, but think about it this way. if I am in my house and say: Crustacean Drool Cube. I said those words on earth. so when aldrin was in the LM he said Contact light meaning those were the first words spoken on the moon!
How can an astronaut, someone with a vast understanding of outterspace be religious.
how can an astronaut, someone with a vast understanding of outer space be not religious?
@@yacn I think what he meant is being christian while being intellectual, caused it is quite nonsense now given how much they change it. As for Islam, well it never contradicts on anything factual
We’ll find out in a couple thousand years when they catch up.
I think you're being a little generous there.....
TheWingedPotato I’m a people person. What can I say.....
@Today I Found Out I have a question, yes it is a serious one despite the topic. For Bonus Fact #2 did Buzz actually urinate on the moon itself, or was it more accurate to say he was the first to urinate while being on the moon?
"One small step for man, One giant Leak for man kind"
Couldn't resist after hearing the final bonus fact :P
Islam spreads into space is a terrifying idea.
Peed on the moon you say?
Well that's that then, Jungle law clearly states it is his forever.
Never have I ever thought about this, cool!
Lol. What about someone that is on the opposing meridian to Mecca? Does he turn west or east? Or north or south on the antipod ?
If so many of the ‘rules’ can be broken by such a seemingly strict religion, then, what’s the point? Truly?
The Qu'ran says that if something is not covered in the Qu'ran or out of date, that a good Muslim should follow the majority vote of the community. Howeverrrr, just like fundamentalist Christians, fundamentalist Muslims tend to conveniently "forget" parts such as that, which causes the problems in the Middle East
Sheldon Robertson Unfortunately, too true. But, they won’t! God always has a ‘remnant’!
Karen Dobrowolski tbh it’s seems strict but it’s not, the guidance is there to guides. Just don’t go over the boundaries is the point.
Actually all those decisions are based on either Al-Qur'an and hadits. To face anywhere during prayers Al-Baqarah 115 and some hadits which I forgot. To do the prayers by the time he usually does it there was a hadits on which stated that during the great fitna a day will goes by like a year and then like a month and the like a week and then it returns to what we used to and someone asked how do they pray during those times, Muhammad asnwered do it like what you used to do. And these are what I know as ordinary muslims, those scholars know much more.
The point is God is Merciful
Religion always seems to be able to edit itself when something beneficial conflicts.
convenient isnt it, to be selectively flexible when it comes to belief
If they truly believed that their books were gospel then going to space should be a one way trip to hell. "But we really want to go to space, lets just change it then". Maybe this is the origin of DOOM.
I'm not Muslim and have always thought Islam was a very strict religion. Its nice that they seem just as understanding of extenuating circumstances as religion that I am more familiar.
The title sounds like the punchline to a meme
Her: I bet he's thinking about other women
Him: How do Muslims face mecca in space?
Wha...? Why
I mean the point of the channel is to learn a bit of random information everyday sooooooooo?
Bilquis i know, but sometimes you just gotta take a second to understand the thought process going on here
Muslims are crazy.
Horrible-Artist699 not at all... it’s just some of the stuff on this channel is so random, just don’t go around making up stuff that isn’t there
Sam Lucas how?
Another reason why being an Athiest is awsome. No inconvenience :)
I was wondering how the rules about travelling during Ramadan would work, since Muslim astronauts would be covering the distances required for an exemption. I'd also imagine the rules given here for body position in prayer when one cannot assume the usual positions could also apply to those with disabilities.
If one is located at a point equidistant from Mecca, is it possible to facing Mecca any more than one is facing away from Mecca?
Judging by the like:dislike ratio, I'm estimating that 1 in 10 TIFO viewers of this video are anti-Muslim.
Seriously, if it's related to Muslims in any way, does it suddenly have to be disliked? Simon spent effort on this video (and many others, of course), and you people just dislike it like mindless dogs trained to hate anything Islamic.
Dark Days probably Sweden lmfao
Auren when a Muslim kills he isn’t considered a Muslim stop acting so big headed your ignorant to what true Islam means
Who made those killers the face of Islam or Muslims?
Terrorism, suicide bombings, murder and rape etc are all forbidden in Islam. It's not fair for us Americans to be judged based on inhabitants of our prison system. Cuz that would be foul, so why do it to others.
Misguided muslims who became extremists and started killing people on their own religion
Muslim has to live in peace with aliens?
Yeah right, not if they aren't Muslims.
Duh!
sen zen
I have spoken with Muslims that disagree with you.
They believe a Jihad has started and they explained what that will mean for all non believers. It was very confusing to me because they all where very intelligent.... :-(
sen zen
Muslims disagree a lot about many important things.
Example: I know Sunni that claim Iraniers aren't Muslim in any way.
I would love to see an episode about EMPS
To the wonderful folks at TIFO, regardless of my personal thoughts regarding Islam, thank you for this insightful take on a particular facet of their practices, especially considering its correlation with technology. Cheers!
Im muslim from kurdistan.
cool no one cares
Chaosflower thats not nice
Rojava?
FBK Kurdish assalam alikum
I hope you have a great day!
I hear if the Kabaa gets destroyed they all start to spin like broken compasses
Lifesizemortal did you have to say that,
Thats not funny at all
No they shut down like the droids in Star Wars The phantom menace.
Jerusalem is the official alternative for Kabaa in terms of prayer
The Ka’abah has actually had to be substantially renovated after different natural and man-made disasters several times. It’s a building, not God himself.
It has been damaged for several times in history. If Kaaba gets destroyed, we still face the same direction. We Muslims aren't stupid.
Someone in a reply section of a comment said that Abrahamic Religions, including Islam, worship the Sun, it's just that our definition of God changes and I would like to correct that while avoiding pointless arguments as best as I could. First things first, we don't worship the Sun. In fact, there are certain times when it is forbidden to pray, that is when the Sun is just about to rise and when the Sun is just about to go down. This, from my experience, is to avoid from looking as if we worship the Sun, and imitation of other religions is strictly forbidden in Islam (noted that there was once a Queen who would worship the Sun during those two periods) So, it wouldn't make sense that we worship the Sun. Furthermore, if we do, we'd see the Sun as a holy thing and well, we don't. The Sun is just a burning star to us. Second, the definition of God has been pretty much the same: The creator of the Universe and all that is living (also natural non-living things like rocks and water) . It wouldn't make sense to worship the Sun if that is our definition of God. The Sun is just, you know, being the Sun. All it could create is light and heat.
Sorry if it seems a bit short, I wanted to make the explanation as simple as possible. And forgive me if it ends up being unclear to you. If it isn't clear or there is a mistake, do tell me :). If anyone would like to add anything to it please do as well. Thank you for taking your time and whoever you are, have a good day!
Wow so i think i can tell my Friend about this ! he is a new Muslim and he was also asking this thing !