Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is Up With the NATO Phonetic Alphabet?

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  • čas přidán 3. 05. 2024
  • Alfa, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliett, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Sierra, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, X-Ray, Yankee, Zulu. If you have ever served in the armed forces or worked in the aviation industry, these words are most likely permanently seared into your brain. And even if you haven’t, you have probably heard them used in countless war movies and other places. This is the NATO phonetic spelling alphabet, a series of 26 words mapped acrophonically onto the letters of the Roman alphabet. Officially adopted by NATO in 1956, this alphabet has since become the de facto standard for militaries and civilian organizations around the world. But what is this alphabet even for? And how was this collection of seemingly-random words chosen? Well, Lima Echo Tango Sierra Foxtrot India November Delta Oscar Uniform Tango as we dive into the long and fascinating history of phonetic spelling alphabets.
    Author: Gilles Messier
    Host: Simon Whistler
    Editor: Daven Hiskey
    Producer: Samuel Avila

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  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut  Před 26 dny +38

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    • @SlavTiger
      @SlavTiger Před 26 dny

      thanks for this info, ii have added this alphabet to my emergency radio manual for reference.

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo Před 26 dny +3

      Was the other part brought to us by Coca Cola?

    • @Mike-zx1kx
      @Mike-zx1kx Před 25 dny

      Now what has "Ø" for Øresund and "Æ" for Ægir done to be left out?

    • @UnclePengy
      @UnclePengy Před 25 dny

      And you didn't even delve into regional phonetic alphabets such as the famous APCO (aka LAPD) radio alphabet, which I believe is still in use today, and which is the alphabet I learned growing up thanks to the famous TV series Adam-12 and Dragnet. (But then I became a Ham, and now I know two.) Well, maybe you can do a sequel.

    • @wamlartmuse17
      @wamlartmuse17 Před 25 dny

      Joe momma!

  • @StormCaller5
    @StormCaller5 Před 26 dny +295

    Lol we had a really smart dog that would lose his mind when we even spelled walk. Tried whiskey-alpha-lima-kilo for a while. He caught on to that, too 😂

    • @jmr
      @jmr Před 26 dny +21

      I'm not sure if my dog knows how walk and ride are spelled or if he just recognizes that we are spelling but either way he knows. 😂

    • @PeterSwinkels
      @PeterSwinkels Před 26 dny +12

      Same with a dog my parents used to own. 🤣

    • @Marcus-ki1en
      @Marcus-ki1en Před 26 dny +19

      Our Greyhound not only learned W-A-L-K spelling but K-L-A-W, and we thought we were so smart. We tried spelling nonsense words to see if she was hitting on the spelling only, but she would only get excited when we spelled that word.

    • @Consumpter
      @Consumpter Před 26 dny +9

      dogs probably correlate the sounds of the letters as similar to sounds of words so as long as they hear a certain group of sounds they assume it means the same thing every time

    • @siliconwolverine
      @siliconwolverine Před 26 dny +3

      My morkie knows the same but it’s “outside” and “treat”

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 Před 26 dny +353

    US Army vet here, 78-90. Was the RTO for my company commander and using the phonetic alphabet was second nature. Still use it today when I have to spell something out over the phone. LoL.. Cheers from Tennessee

    • @smithandshortdogs
      @smithandshortdogs Před 26 dny +10

      USAF... filled army ILO spots for a decade (04-12) was an RTO as well, but knew the alphabet before that because 2t1s have to learn it in tech school (That is 88m and AIT for you ground pounders).

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny +12

      Regular person here,and I also know this alphabet,because it was taught to me in kindergarten lol You don't have to wear camouflage to figure this out lol

    • @jimmym3352
      @jimmym3352 Před 26 dny +5

      one of the first things we learned in boot camp in the Navy. Something you'll use over sound powered phones all the time. Though certain letters are used more than others.

    • @innobius4898
      @innobius4898 Před 26 dny +21

      Worst thing is when you instinctively use the NATO phonetics alphabet and a civilian says "hang on I can't write that fast"
      Oh God now I have to explain what a phonetic alphabet is.

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny +1

      @jimmym3352 Navy flex! Eh-oh! I like how we apparently have all these manly vets just sitting around all day waiting to brag about how they used to be something lol Good job!

  • @CujoHyer
    @CujoHyer Před 26 dny +215

    You don't realize how important this stuff is until you're a dispatcher dealing with active crime scenes, or people's lives hanging in the balance. It's wild stuff, when you need it most.

    • @mycroft_moriarty
      @mycroft_moriarty Před 26 dny +10

      It's even weirder when you're the only person on the line who uses it...

    • @SlavTiger
      @SlavTiger Před 26 dny +1

      or if war breaks out

    • @tremorsfan
      @tremorsfan Před 26 dny +2

      We used to use it when I worked at Dulles. So many letters sound the same.

    • @PaulHarris-sl1ct
      @PaulHarris-sl1ct Před 26 dny +4

      I have noticed that most law enforcement use names like "A as in Adam" I personally prefer "T as in Oolong"

    • @jodyfulford8215
      @jodyfulford8215 Před 25 dny +1

      ​@@PaulHarris-sl1ct Or perhaps T as in Earl Grey.

  • @stpnwlf9
    @stpnwlf9 Před 26 dny +91

    Following an air traffic control career, one of the great annoyances has been customer service types on the phone using nons-standard phonetics to spell things out. The pain is real.

    • @alexdryver5090
      @alexdryver5090 Před 25 dny +10

      I learned NATO phonetic as a truck driver. If your job involves strings of letters and numbers being spoken you should know NATO phonetic. It's easier to understand and more professional then "B as in boy".

    • @uchinanchuu58
      @uchinanchuu58 Před 25 dny +3

      Same here except I'm still in ATC...

    • @ryanjohnson628
      @ryanjohnson628 Před 25 dny +4

      YES!! Along with the whole wasted words of “B as in boy…”

    • @gullinvarg
      @gullinvarg Před 24 dny +11

      I had the NATO alphabet taped to my monitor when I worked on an IT help desk. I figured there was already a perfectly good phonetic alphabet that existed so why try to come up with my own? 😉

    • @conradhershberger9359
      @conradhershberger9359 Před 24 dny +4

      @@gullinvarg I memorized it when I did a year of IT phone support. That was 15 years ago, and I still use it.

  • @ThorsonWiles
    @ThorsonWiles Před 26 dny +33

    Yes, and after having been a civilian for nearly 30 years, when I hear people in my office spelling items phonetically using non-nato words, and even using different words for the same letter in the SAME interaction ... I developed a twich.
    Once when a person got it right, I cheered and bought them lunch.

    • @mattiemathis9549
      @mattiemathis9549 Před 8 dny +2

      After the army I went into law enforcement. My agency used nato, but other agencies used words like Adam and David, so I got used to the different words. But yes, when the customer service representative says, “B as in boy, B as in Bob”, it’s like fingernails on a chalkboard.

  • @jonbroadsword7572
    @jonbroadsword7572 Před 26 dny +31

    Two of the nurses on the TV series MASH were called Nurse Able and Nurse Baker.

    • @DoIGetTube
      @DoIGetTube Před 22 dny +3

      In more modern times, those same two would have been called Nurses Alpha and Bravo respectively.

  • @jonathans2281
    @jonathans2281 Před 26 dny +50

    US Navy vet. 05-13. Still use the phonetic alphabet. Wicked useful.

    • @randalmayeux8880
      @randalmayeux8880 Před 26 dny +2

      What part of Boston are you from?

    • @samking7213
      @samking7213 Před 26 dny +1

      I'm an Australian Army Vet. Same years, 05 to 13

    • @eddarby469
      @eddarby469 Před 25 dny

      Army NG still use it from the 80s.

    • @jammiebooker6489
      @jammiebooker6489 Před 24 dny

      Bravo Zulu

    • @blindbrad4719
      @blindbrad4719 Před 18 dny

      I've used it to stay awake driving. Spelling things out with it including the phonetic spelling alphabet both forwards and backwards 😂

  • @jamiekirkland2474
    @jamiekirkland2474 Před 24 dny +13

    I work in the aviation industry and I did not expect to learn anything new about the NATO phonetic alphabet when I clicked on this video. I never realized that alfa and Juliett have different spelling than a native English speaker would expect. Very interesting history of the various standards!

    • @jeffweber8244
      @jeffweber8244 Před 24 dny +1

      I occasionally need to use them verbally myself. But I'm not sure when I'd ever write them down to note their spelling.

    • @jamiekirkland2474
      @jamiekirkland2474 Před 24 dny

      @@jeffweber8244 I learned the alphabet decades ago at 10 years old (because I was a weird kid) and I don't think I have seen the alphabet written out since.

    • @bite-sizedshorts9635
      @bite-sizedshorts9635 Před 22 dny

      It's not NATO invented. They just adopted it in 1956, but it was in use already for many decades.

  • @BobHutton
    @BobHutton Před 23 dny +4

    I can remember my father using this alphabet in the late 1950's. I didn't realise it was so new. I had to memorise it in 1963 to do school over the radio.

  • @Loves_three_kitties
    @Loves_three_kitties Před 26 dny +45

    So great that know the history of the phonetic alphabet. I married a naval aviator in 1969. During our very short engagement realized my being able to learn not learning the phonetic alphabet would be a game changer. We have been married for 54 years!

    • @danlabok7117
      @danlabok7117 Před 26 dny +4

      🎉congratulations🎉 54 year's is amazing nowadays!

    • @ChristophBrinkmann
      @ChristophBrinkmann Před 26 dny +2

      ​@@danlabok7117 54 years is amazing in any era (unless the marriage has one or two abusive people.)

    • @jackturner214
      @jackturner214 Před 25 dny +1

      Mazel Tov! My wife also caught on to the phonetic alphabet pretty quickly when she married this former airdale (though I was no longer in the Navy); one of the things that made me smile the biggest was a couple of months into our marriage when she referred to her sneakers as "go fasters." We'll have been married 21 years on next Saturday, provided she keeps me that long 😁 Fly Navy!

    • @csjrogerson2377
      @csjrogerson2377 Před 25 dny +1

      Bravo Zulu.

    • @bite-sizedshorts9635
      @bite-sizedshorts9635 Před 22 dny

      Except he was lying about it originating with NATO. It was in use from the beginning of radio in the US.

  • @frankunderbush
    @frankunderbush Před 26 dny +28

    About 10 years ago I had my first job doing customer service at a call center, and I ended up unironically using this system because the modern phone connections are still crap. It felt a bit weird at first to use some of the more unconventional words but they are definitely distinct enough to never be mixed up with anything else.
    Fast forward to today, when I speak to customer service of whatever god forsaken cable company that I need to speak to, I do the same on my end to avoid confusion. On top of helping with bad phone connections, it also helps the numerous customer service reps who don't speak English as their first language.

    • @UtilityCurve
      @UtilityCurve Před 26 dny +2

      Apparently, the current service standards for fidelity/intelligibility are much lower for cellular telephony than mid-20th Century wired lines. A fair number of us remember the long-distance (and it is only a number of us who grok the concept of "long-distance" itself) carrier Sprint and its famous pin-dropping.
      No free lunch.

    • @dragonhealer7588
      @dragonhealer7588 Před 26 dny

      ​@@UtilityCurve
      TANSTAAFL 😊

    • @rhaedas9085
      @rhaedas9085 Před 26 dny +1

      @@UtilityCurve My dislike for cellular phone conversation happened sometime in the early 2000s when analog got quickly replaced with the more modern digital encoding. The human ear can fill in gaps in a message with some static, but the cutout that digital has when data is lost is terrible. Same issue with video, as a kid I remember still managing to watch a badly tuned channel on the TV, unlike a digital signal that gets blocky.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 Před 25 dny

      I find myself confusing an improperly pronounced QUEBEC with the letter K.

    • @kah10161
      @kah10161 Před 25 dny

      Amen to that! Definitely came in handy for open gas accounts in the Midwest.

  • @floridaboz1
    @floridaboz1 Před 26 dny +66

    Joemomma nice little Easter egg

    • @James_Wotring
      @James_Wotring Před 25 dny +3

      I was looking for someone else who noticed!

    • @ginbei711
      @ginbei711 Před 25 dny +3

      ​@@James_Wotring me too 😂

    • @oalfodr
      @oalfodr Před 24 dny +2

      It was Easter in my part of the world around the time you wrote your comment

    • @nunyabidness674
      @nunyabidness674 Před 24 dny

      @@oalfodr Your part of the world is 3 weeks behind everyone else?

    • @oalfodr
      @oalfodr Před 23 dny

      @@nunyabidness674 Yup. Church here follows Julian calendar

  • @Perry2186
    @Perry2186 Před 26 dny +36

    As a mechanic, I use a phenonic alphabet to read Vin numbers to get parts when I was a firefighter. We used Phenonic alphabet for radio communication

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny

      You were a mechanic,or a firefighter? Get your lies straight lol

    • @Perry2186
      @Perry2186 Před 26 dny +2

      @jeffdroog 20year mechanics 11years volunteer firefighter

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny

      @@Perry2186 I'm a little shocked neither of those jobs,or the years apparently required to do them,ever required you to write a coherent sentence lol

    • @Perry2186
      @Perry2186 Před 26 dny +2

      @jeffdroog talk to text doesn't work great with a southern accent. Also, I was driving proof reading wasn't a priority

    • @richiehoyt8487
      @richiehoyt8487 Před 26 dny +3

      ​@@jeffdroog Always reassuring to see the Internet Police out and about and keeping busy.

  • @route2070
    @route2070 Před 26 dny +52

    Yes making up my own phoenetic alphabet out of frustration while on the phone.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 Před 26 dny +3

      Hay for Horses, Beef or Dinner, See for yourself, Dee for Kate, Effort ,

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 Před 26 dny +4

      Brandon at Talladega, the crowd chanting.

    • @Jessepigman69
      @Jessepigman69 Před 26 dny +2

      D for dave o for....... August...... wait that's not an o.....
      "Sir it is OK, calm down"

    • @jamesonmiller8283
      @jamesonmiller8283 Před 24 dny +4

      Yes of course: P as in Pterodactyl, S as in Sea, A as in Aye, E as in Eye, L as in Llama, M as in Mnemonic, C as in Cay, K as in Knight

    • @danreyn
      @danreyn Před 24 dny

      "No my name is Carry, not Terri. That's C as in Crane, A as in Avery, R's like Railroad, and Y like Yike. No! Not Terri. How are you not getting this!?"

  • @pogue972
    @pogue972 Před 26 dny +13

    I used to work in tech/customer support over the phone and ended up, in fact, print out a copy of the NATO alphabet to have a reference when I had to spell things out over the phone as opposed to trying to come up with words on the fly. It was hung on my cubicle wall & co-workers ended up asking me about it and adopting the practice as well.

    • @bite-sizedshorts9635
      @bite-sizedshorts9635 Před 22 dny

      It's not NATO. It's military. It was used way before NATO started.

    • @pogue972
      @pogue972 Před 22 dny

      @@bite-sizedshorts9635 Tell it to the people who made the video bro

  • @repentantconservative7030
    @repentantconservative7030 Před 26 dny +28

    Amateur (HAM) radio operator here. This is second nature for me. Still used today in the Amateur Service.

    • @TubeLVT
      @TubeLVT Před 21 dnem

      The term “ham”is not an acronym. It should not be written in all capitals.

    • @SomeYouTubeGuy
      @SomeYouTubeGuy Před 17 dny +1

      I work in an IT call centre and it frustrates me to no end that the NATO alphabet isn't taught or enforced by management.

  • @mringasa1848
    @mringasa1848 Před 26 dny +23

    This entire video was just a troll to get Simon to say "monkey nuts" in a video, right?
    Good one. Always neat to see the beginnings of something that is so ubiquitous.

    • @ridesq
      @ridesq Před 26 dny

      London Monkey Nuts.

    • @marklittle8805
      @marklittle8805 Před 17 dny +2

      Most of the videos he has to say something silly ...his writers entrap him all the time

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Před 6 dny +1

      What do you mean - his writers. He writes the script.

  • @_PITBOY
    @_PITBOY Před 26 dny +5

    Look at this. Lovely video edit.
    No vignette, no old film filter, nothing to distract from the simple transfer of the information of the story.
    Unlike another of Simons channels.
    An actual pro editor here ... nice.

  • @Fred_Lougee
    @Fred_Lougee Před 26 dny +17

    Bravo Zulu. You did a video on the phonetic alphabet without making it a complete Charlie Foxtrot.

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Před 26 dny +6

      Coulda been a real SNAFU. That would've been really FUBAR.

    • @cycoholic
      @cycoholic Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@benn454Then he would have had to bohica.
      😂

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Před 25 dny

      @@cycoholic The Green Weenie comes for us all.

  • @charlottehardy822
    @charlottehardy822 Před 26 dny +12

    I was taught this as a kid and it’s second nature for me to use it when spelling things out over the phone.

  • @omquark2895
    @omquark2895 Před 26 dny +7

    I worked in tech support, over the phone of course, and I learned and used this because a lot of people I talked to could already communicate with it. It made my life a lot easier.

  • @THE-X-Force
    @THE-X-Force Před 26 dny +13

    lol .. (6:04) "Monkey Nuts" .. (yes, I have a 8yr old's sense of humor!)

  • @sarameitner6770
    @sarameitner6770 Před 25 dny +3

    This is phenomenal. I teach the NATO alphabet numerous times a year - and have done some research into various earlier English forms (there are SO MANY and each language has its own as well!). This deep research and chronological report is very welcome. I will definitely be recommending it to people who want more in depth background information as to the evolution of the (eventual) NATO alphabet.

  • @pithicus52
    @pithicus52 Před 26 dny +37

    When I was stationed in Japan, all the bar maids in the bars near the front gate of the base spoke English so we would spell out words using the phonetic alphabet. "Interrogative Yankee Echo November" meant "how many yen do you have". Obviously not something that we wanted the bar maids to know.

    • @Drew-bc7zj
      @Drew-bc7zj Před 25 dny

      But how did you answer without them knowing? Start blurting out numbers and of course they'll be thinking money, right?

    • @pithicus52
      @pithicus52 Před 25 dny +1

      @@Drew-bc7zj Just gave general values. "Lots, not much, etc." No, definitely did not give numbers because that would have meant pulling out our wallets and did not want to expose the contents of our wallets if at all possible.

    • @Drew-bc7zj
      @Drew-bc7zj Před 24 dny

      @@pithicus52 Afraid they'd have an accomplice rob you, or was it scams perpetrated on customers, like overcharging or watering down drinks?

    • @pithicus52
      @pithicus52 Před 24 dny

      @@Drew-bc7zj The bar maids were only served from a special bottle of "whiskey" that the customers were never served from. And yes it was expensive.

    • @Drew-bc7zj
      @Drew-bc7zj Před 23 dny

      @@pithicus52 Were you forced to buy them drinks? It's not like there was a chance they were going home with you.

  • @carolann811
    @carolann811 Před 26 dny +77

    I transcribe body-worn camera audio. In one traffic stop for DUI the driver was asked to recite the alphabet. He rattled off a phonetic version.

    • @pretzelhunt
      @pretzelhunt Před 26 dny +3

      failed anyway tho

    • @carolann811
      @carolann811 Před 26 dny +24

      @@pretzelhunt Well, yeah, he was arrested. He said it correctly though. I was both impressed and annoyed b/c it took far longer to type Alpha, Bravo, Charlie than it did A, B, C.

    • @josekentucky86
      @josekentucky86 Před 26 dny

      I've done that myself ​@@carolann811

    • @cycoholic
      @cycoholic Před 26 dny

      That sounds like an interesting job.

    • @agentwashingtub9167
      @agentwashingtub9167 Před 25 dny +7

      How many videos have you deleted for your friends?

  • @Svensk7119
    @Svensk7119 Před 24 dny +7

    The singular purpose of the phonetic alphabet is clarity. With more than half the consonants in the English-version alphabet sounding just like the Vowel "E", a shakey, staticky radio connection across a very loud situation where men are screaming, shouting, cursing, and crying, pronouncing each letter as a name or word guarantees more than one shot to determine the word. If I gear "--ee," it could be anything. If I hear, "--ko", or, "---elta," or, "--ango," I know exactly what was said: echo, delta, tango, "E", "D", "T", respectively.
    That's it. No need to watch now.....
    Except for the joy of watching Simon work.
    And it was a joy. I have finished it now, and I had not considered the international aspect. Well done, Simon! Thank you for a well-presented video.

  • @CujoHyer
    @CujoHyer Před 26 dny +15

    I had a guy get nervous reading off a license plate to me once, and he hit X, and said 'Xylophone'.
    that got quite a few laughs later.

    • @Lightning613
      @Lightning613 Před 25 dny

      Personally, had a difficult time translating the real (NATO) alphabet to the local police alphabet.

    • @peterbennett8567
      @peterbennett8567 Před 25 dny

      I asked someone who was using random words what she'd use for Z - she immediately said "Xylophone"! (well, it does sound llike it should start with a Z)

    • @CujoHyer
      @CujoHyer Před 24 dny

      @@peterbennett8567 Cracks me up that word would ever pop in somene's head for that purpose.

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 Před 23 dny

      That isn't as funny as my staff sergeant spelling out the registration of the van we were using and when he said "uniform" me thinking "I'm sure there wasn't a u", I checked, he was trying to indicate "y". I didn't correct, not my place :)

    • @raindancer6111
      @raindancer6111 Před 23 dny

      As an old biddy I would say that xylophone does spring to mind for X. When I was very young I had an alphabet puzzle with A for apple and a picture and so on. X was illustrated with a xylophone. It did give my nursery teacher a bit of a surprise when I came out with that one in class.

  • @anthonyholroyd5359
    @anthonyholroyd5359 Před 26 dny +21

    Armed forces, aviation industry - yeh.
    But also the police, ambulance service, fire service and (my own industry) the railways.
    Any industry where clear, unambiguous communication is vital? You will find the NATO phonetic alphabet being used.
    We dont use 'Foo-er', 'Fife' or 'Niner', but we do follow the protocol of verbalising individual numbers and letters.
    In the UK, each train operating over Network Rail infrastructure has a designated 'headcode' (like a flight number) that is formed of a number, a letter and two further nunbers.
    The first number indicates the priority of the service (e.g. 1 = express passenger train; 2 = local or stopping passenger train. 5 = a passenger train out of service . . . I.e. empty coaching stock).
    The letter indicates the route the train is running on - whilst the final two numbers identify the train.
    For example - 1A37 might be a train from Glasgow to Aberdeen.
    The '1' designates it as an express passenger train
    The 'A' as a train from the Scottish central belt, bound for Aberdeen
    The '3' and '7' tell you exactly which train that day is heading to Aberdeen.
    The train and hour earlier in the same route might have been '1A35', the train an hour behind '1A39'.
    Lets keep with '1A37'. Any communication between the driver, conductor, signaller or network control regarding this train would have '1A37' read and spoken as 'One Alpha Three Seven'.
    Likewise: 1B07 would be verbalised as 'One Bravo Zero Seven'

    • @SteelWolf13
      @SteelWolf13 Před 25 dny

      Except civillian services use the names. Adam Baker charlie. Eww....

    • @skyhawk_4526
      @skyhawk_4526 Před 24 dny

      @@SteelWolf13 In California:
      Adam, Boy, Charles, David, Edward, Frank, George, Henry, Ida, John, King, Lincoln, Mary, Nora, Ocean, Paul, Queen, Robert, Sam, Tom, Union, Victor, William, X-ray, Yellow, Zebra.

    • @bpomowe224
      @bpomowe224 Před 23 dny

      Adam, Bertil, Caesar, David, Erik, Filip, Gustav, Helge, Ivar, Johan, Kalle, Ludvig, Martin, Niklas, Olof, Petter, Qvintus, Rudolf, Sigurd, Tore, Urban, Viktor, Wilhelm, Xerxes, Yngve, Zäta, Åke, Ärlig, Östen.

  • @Leviathan56
    @Leviathan56 Před 26 dny +56

    Who decided to put "joemama" in the thumbnail?

  • @platypus01au
    @platypus01au Před 26 dny +4

    Thanks for this! As an ex-signaller from the Australian Army Reserve, this is seared into my brain. Fascinating to learn how it came about.

  • @johnguill6129
    @johnguill6129 Před 22 dny +2

    In a telephone conversation in a previous employment, I once inquired of the person on the other end of the line by asking, "D as in Delta?" She replied, "No, D as in Dog." 🤨

  • @madelinecox4101
    @madelinecox4101 Před 26 dny +31

    "King Philip Caught One Fish Going South" will always be the way that I remember Kindom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.

  • @zeppelinmage
    @zeppelinmage Před 26 dny +17

    I learned the NATO alphabet as a teenager when I got my ham radio license. Still use it today working in the airline industry, and anytime I need to spell something over the phone.

  • @Elongated_Muskrat
    @Elongated_Muskrat Před 26 dny +23

    Oscar Mike Golf! What an odd topic.

  • @BradHouser
    @BradHouser Před 22 dny +2

    One of the few channels on CZcams that teaches me new words. I now know what acrophonic means. (An alphabet when the words of the letters begin with the letter). Thank you Simon.

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 Před 26 dny +15

    Genius title! 😂

  • @IMeanMachine101
    @IMeanMachine101 Před 26 dny +6

    ok the person who did that title needs a raise

  • @lorensims4846
    @lorensims4846 Před 26 dny +18

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is a delightful comedy movie memoir of the life of imbedded reporters in Afghanistan.

    • @randomobserver8168
      @randomobserver8168 Před 26 dny +1

      One of the elements of the NATO alphabet that did make it out into gen pop for a while there. The filmmakers obviously assumed by then it was understood to mean WTF by enough people to buy tickets. Also, fun movie. People I knew thought it captured the civilian expat life in Kabul in those days reasonably well. At least for the media and a few other groups.

  • @PeteJacksonPapasVlogs
    @PeteJacksonPapasVlogs Před 20 dny +1

    Interesting deep dive. I’m an amateur radio operator and the NATO standard alphabet is what we use. 73, Kilo Kilo 7 November Whiskey Uniform.

  • @tgbluewolf
    @tgbluewolf Před 25 dny +2

    6:04 "London monkey nuts" sounds like a great alternative for an expletive when there are sensitive ears around. 🤣

  • @wendybrenner2614
    @wendybrenner2614 Před 26 dny +12

    thank you Simon I was in the United States Navy and always wondered how they got these letters and used the specific terms for a different things 1:07 so today I learned what I should have known 20 years ago lol😊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯ogbb

  • @jasotech1426
    @jasotech1426 Před 26 dny +5

    Knight for K is just mad 😆😆

  • @4TheRecord
    @4TheRecord Před 24 dny +2

    If you want to upset a police officer, tell them to Foxtrot Oscar.

  • @timothygreer188
    @timothygreer188 Před 26 dny +1

    Anyone else giggle every time he said, "London, Monkey, Nuts"?

  • @Pugjamin
    @Pugjamin Před 26 dny +5

    When I worked in a call center, my all time favourite was a customer who said “Q for cucumber” 😂🙈
    My response “I can see where you’re going with that, but, no.”

    • @TakaAmun
      @TakaAmun Před 25 dny

      As a 911 Operator, my similar but troublesome experience with a caller that I couldn't understand if he was saying S or F, so I asked several times 'F like Foxtrot, or S like Sierra?" He'd say something I didn't understand, so I tried again 'F like Frank, or S like Sam?', again some strange word that just wasn't registering with me with me. Finally I tell him that I am not understanding at all, is it 'F like Fast or S like Slow' (I may have added a touch of sarcasm on the Slow) - and he starts yelling and repeating, over and over until it finally clicks:
      'F like coFFee'... 😳

  • @nicls2882
    @nicls2882 Před 26 dny +5

    I once told a French person over the phone "J" like Jalapeno... 🤦‍♀️ We've had a lot of good laughs over that one 😂

    • @julioguardado
      @julioguardado Před 26 dny +2

      I used to work for a French guy. He seemed to think the J in Julio was silent. 😁

  • @Tremblox
    @Tremblox Před 25 dny +2

    Fantastically researched and presented. Zero fluff and highly informative. Well done and thank you!

  • @samedwards6683
    @samedwards6683 Před 14 dny

    Thanks so much for creating and sharing this informative video. Great job. Keep it up.

  • @samhavoc1066
    @samhavoc1066 Před 26 dny +5

    Still use it all the time when I interact with people on the phone and they or I need to communicate spelling of a word or letters in a serial number.

  • @PetesGuide
    @PetesGuide Před 26 dny +2

    I made extensive revisions to the Wikipedia articles on this topic years ago, so you’re probably using a bunch of my work and research. But I learned a few new things that even I didn’t know, so color me extremely impressed!

  • @sdoddsma
    @sdoddsma Před 22 dny +1

    As am amateur radio traffic handler, I've always used the current NATO phonetics, although some in the late 60s used the Able Baker version. It's so engrained in me that when somebody says 'Nancy' for 'N' instead of November, or 'Ida' for 'I' instead of India, I have a slight brain glitch; kinda like when somebody tells you their phone number and instead of the 3-digit, 3-digit, 4-digit cadence, they do something else. Great video on the history of phonetics, although I had to pause mid-way so as not to 'plant a seed' in my mind to use other words.

    • @DanielHallmark
      @DanielHallmark Před 22 dny

      Thr one that kills me is when operators use "kilowatt" to convey the letter 'k' instead of the prescribed "kilo." My mind immediately wants to transcribe KW instead of K.

  • @joshanderson8938
    @joshanderson8938 Před 26 dny +5

    I've warned you once TIFO....
    Don't be talkin bout my momma!!

  • @juliav.mcclelland2415
    @juliav.mcclelland2415 Před 26 dny +5

    LOL I knew R was Romeo, but I didn't know J was Juliet. Cute.

    • @peterbennett8567
      @peterbennett8567 Před 25 dny +1

      I test people's knowledge of the phonetic alphabet (for a Canadian Radio Operator certificate) and sometimes give Romeo as a clue for Juliett (or vice versa) when the student gets stuck - but that only works with people of the right culture (or age?)

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish Před 3 dny

    I was inspired to learn it as a child because of watching The Bill (a police soap in the UK in the 90's) - all the radios used a two-letter call-sign and I was intrigued as to who "Sierra Oscar" was, so my Dad explained it to me.
    It's been absolutely invaluable to me in my professional life, working in IT - reading out alphanumeric passwords, or ever spelling someone's name on the phone is made much easier. I've done it for so long I can spell words just as quickly in NATO as I can with saying the "normal" letter names, much to the chagrin of my wife who can't use it at the same speed

  • @AnOldGeezer420
    @AnOldGeezer420 Před 25 dny +1

    I just like hearing Simon say, "Monkey Nuts." 😂😂

  • @timmystwin
    @timmystwin Před 26 dny +20

    I know the phonetic one better than the normal one.
    I get to like G then forget which letter's next, but know the phonetic ones instantly.

    • @Watty7878
      @Watty7878 Před 26 dny

      Gerp

    • @pieterboelen2862
      @pieterboelen2862 Před 26 dny

      "Normal one"?
      What's the normal one?

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah Před 26 dny +3

      @@pieterboelen2862 I think he means the normal alphabet. Somehow he didn't learn his ABCs when he was a kid.

  • @ArizonaJoeHines
    @ArizonaJoeHines Před 19 dny +1

    I was a casualty clerk for the 19th Combat Engineer Battalion (1970). Took many casualty reports over the radio. Like much Army training, the phonetic alphabet sticks with you. It's interesting that the Los Angeles Police Department apparently uses another phonetic alphabet, based on what you see on TV.

  • @teds8747
    @teds8747 Před 23 dny

    I have watched many of your shows, but this one really stood out for me... I recently started learning the phonetic alphabet, as many of my friends are military and use it a lot... It is not so easy to pick up, but your explanation of its history and how it came to be the way it is now makes a lot more sense!

  • @likebot.
    @likebot. Před 26 dny +6

    Yeah, I kinda drooled at 10:24 when you showed a graphic of an IBM-122 key keyboard.
    Ohhh, clicky clicky click click.

    • @bite-sizedshorts9635
      @bite-sizedshorts9635 Před 22 dny

      Lenovo makes one that has full travel keys that can be a good stand-in for you. And it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. That's what I'm using right now. I've worn the spacebar shiny smooth.

    • @frakturfreak
      @frakturfreak Před 21 dnem +1

      There is a company called Unicomp that bought the machinery and technology off of IBM and produces new buckling spring keyboards to this day.

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. Před 21 dnem

      @@frakturfreak Oh good. I have 2 of them and could use a few spare parts. And I'd like to convert one of them to USB. I jockeyed an AS/400 and their sequels for 30 years and these keyboards are more comfy than my favorite equally vintage jeans.

  • @tarmagain2771
    @tarmagain2771 Před 26 dny +4

    i see what you did there with the thumbnail

  • @KismetBP
    @KismetBP Před 26 dny

    Really enjoyed this video! Thanks for all the excellent work on it! ❤🤘

  • @dacelikethefish587
    @dacelikethefish587 Před 26 dny +1

    Very Product Placement!

  • @user-ve4sm8cb9c
    @user-ve4sm8cb9c Před 26 dny +3

    Charlie Oscar Oscar Lima!

  • @floridaboz1
    @floridaboz1 Před 26 dny +4

    Still to this day i use the Phonetic Alphabet if i want to make clear what i am saying over the phone. One of the great things i learned from my time in the military

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny +1

      I learned this alphabet in kindergarten lol You went way above the call of the duty to learn this lol Fail.

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman Před 26 dny

      @@jeffdroog , don't worry, we can tell from your replies that you've never done anything significant with your life. You don't have to keep repeating it.

  • @cycoholic
    @cycoholic Před 26 dny +1

    When I was in the NSW Ambulance, it was occasionally used, but they weren't strict on it. But being a gamer and into military movies and computer game, I was already fairky familiar with it.
    I still remember one time I needed more info on the patient we were picking up, and there was no way I could pronounce the foriegn (to me) name of the individual.
    Fortunately it was fairly short and used one letter twice. I remembered most of the letters, but I did have to double check myself so checked quickly online.
    I rehearsed it in my head a few times, picked up the handset and when it was appropriate, I spelled out the last name in the standard Nato phonetic alphabet. Fairly smoothly too.
    My mate who was driving, snapped his head in my direction and said something along the lines of "look at Mr Fancy Pants.
    😂

  • @dinsdalemontypiranha4349
    @dinsdalemontypiranha4349 Před 26 dny +1

    This was awesome Simon! I'm interested in languages so that made this video of particular interest to me.

  • @smithandshortdogs
    @smithandshortdogs Před 26 dny +6

    Llama?

  • @HouseboundPerspectives
    @HouseboundPerspectives Před 26 dny +3

    we were taught it is something every english speaker can say and understand which is why you ALWAYS use "I SPELL" before using phonetics

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 26 dny

      What the hell are you talking about?

    • @kirkstinson7316
      @kirkstinson7316 Před 26 dny +1

      ​If you used a radio in the US army in the 80s and gave a city name you would say the name, then spell it. Before hand you would say "I spell" so the receiver would know you were spelling the city name and not just saying weird words. As in " map grid 19 Tulips. I spell Tango Uniform Lima India Papa Sehera

    • @paulmartin2348
      @paulmartin2348 Před 26 dny

      @@jeffdroog

    • @BerndFelsche
      @BerndFelsche Před 5 dny

      Roger. Pro words rule.

  • @BXBZ88
    @BXBZ88 Před 26 dny +1

    Saw Charlie wear a new Uniform last November for Tango dancing.......... Later he did the Foxtrot in same Uniform but it looked like Charlie lost some Kilos from all that dancing. Later he told the story of being at the Sierra Hotel in India and Tango danced there.

  • @zippanova
    @zippanova Před 15 dny

    Thanks to Gilles Messier for his usual excellent writing!
    And cheers for the injection of Canadian history. Watching here from Calgary!

  • @edbangor9163
    @edbangor9163 Před 26 dny +7

    Did he say "llama" instead of "Lima"?

    • @chronic_payne5669
      @chronic_payne5669 Před 26 dny +2

      How did you catch that?

    • @edbangor9163
      @edbangor9163 Před 26 dny +1

      USN 2013-17. I spent 12 weeks at OCS, where reciting the phonetic alphabet perfectly while doing burpees for an hour straight was a typical morning.

    • @Annoyachu
      @Annoyachu Před 26 dny +1

      Glad I wasn't the only squid to hear it!

    • @edbangor9163
      @edbangor9163 Před 26 dny

      @@Annoyachu hooyah, brother

  • @maliusmaximus1428
    @maliusmaximus1428 Před 26 dny +4

    Used this Working for a bus company in Australia 20 years ago Absolutely hotel alpha romeo delta listening to this

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 26 dny +2

    Good one

  • @umollerstrom
    @umollerstrom Před 26 dny

    Lovely neerdy topic! ❤

  • @juliav.mcclelland2415
    @juliav.mcclelland2415 Před 26 dny +4

    My last name includes an S. Every time I'm asked to spell it on the phone, I add "S as in Sam" by default.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 Před 26 dny +3

    Did I just get joe mamma'd?

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree Před 26 dny +2

    I've been staring at the can of Coke Zero all the time as I listened to Simon.

  • @OtawoOnlineGaming
    @OtawoOnlineGaming Před 24 dny +1

    I spent 10 years in the US Army, so when a customer I was delivering to gave me a dock W# I would inevitably refer to it as Whiskey #. The lady insisted that I must be an alcoholic because no other reason made sense to her.

  • @OhioCruffler
    @OhioCruffler Před 26 dny +11

    "Ack ack" is not an example of phonetic alphabet; it is a corrupted version of the German 88, as in the 88mm anti aircraft gun. Acht acht.

    • @tobi...398
      @tobi...398 Před 26 dny +12

      And "ack ack ack" is a quote from Mars attack

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 Před 26 dny

      @@tobi...398 Martians predicted the opening date of the Beijing Olympic Games?

    • @DeliveryMcGee
      @DeliveryMcGee Před 26 dny

      Why not both?

    • @stevechopping3021
      @stevechopping3021 Před 26 dny

      That's Flak as in Fliegerabwehrkanone Ack Ack is differently British

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV Před 26 dny +2

      ​@@stevechopping3021 "Acht" German for 8. As in the popular 88 mm Flack gun.

  • @phillwainewright4221
    @phillwainewright4221 Před 21 dnem +1

    Alpha said “Bravo, Charlie” and Delta Echoed the sentiment. We danced the Foxtrot at one of those Golf Hotels (it was in India) when Juliet (who had put on a few Kilos) gave a Lima bean to Mike. Last November, Oscar’s Papa went to Quebec to meet Romeo. He wore a Sierra and Tango coloured Uniform. Meanwhile Victor drank Whiskey as he looked at the X-ray of the Yankee, whose arm was broken by a Zulu.

    • @kendotek9414
      @kendotek9414 Před 20 dny

      I wish I knew this when I was in the Army🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrMojo23100
    @MrMojo23100 Před 26 dny +1

    In Army cadets as a teen, I was automatically made the radio operator because I was the only one who knew the phonetic alphabet.

  • @mycroft_moriarty
    @mycroft_moriarty Před 26 dny +1

    I haven't needed to transmit vital info that way in decades, and it's still etched into my brain...or my Bravo-Romeo-Alpha-India-November...

  • @jliller
    @jliller Před 26 dny

    Thank you. I was familiar with the old military phonetic alphabet and the NATO phonetic alphabet, but had no idea why the specific words used were chosen.

  • @Hogscraper
    @Hogscraper Před 23 dny

    It's pretty handy when dealing with people from other countries over the phone. I'm glad it exists every time I take a call from someone from Quebec.

  • @gilliandrysdale5306
    @gilliandrysdale5306 Před 26 dny

    interest stuff thanks

  • @epowell4211
    @epowell4211 Před 20 dny

    So cool. I remember years ago trying to learn this alphabet because I was having to deal with telephone business a lot. I brought it up at a class, and this older lady said she had it memorized because of her years as a telephone operator.
    Really interesting to learn of the different word-alphabets.

  • @dominiquejeangille9254

    When I was a boy scout we studied for Morse code a list of 26 (French) words where O would be - and any other vowel would be a •
    A was Allô •-
    B was Bonaparte -•••
    C was Coca-Cola -•-•
    N was Noël -•
    ... It was quite easy to remember. Less confusing than long and short syllables.

  • @martys9972
    @martys9972 Před 11 dny

    When I was a lad studying Morse code in 1968, I was taught by my (somewhat depraved) sixth-grade teacher that the mnemonic for "Z" (dash-dash-dot-dot) was "Zha Zha did it," referring to the presumably promiscuous Zha Zha Gabor. This was so memorable that I still remember it to this day.

  • @wendybrenner2614
    @wendybrenner2614 Před 26 dny +2

    Dave.. he's one cool cat man! I'm addicted to his scripts, sorry Danny and kevin and the rest of the team🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯😎

  • @itsmarmalade
    @itsmarmalade Před 24 dny

    Had to learn this really quickly after the Quick Assist update last year.

  • @BigRonRN18
    @BigRonRN18 Před 22 dny

    Despite being an amateur radio licensee, I have difficulty with the "NATO" phonetic alphabet. Before becoming a ham, I loved watching cop shows and then became a security officer at the age of 18. Law enforcement and security in the US use a different phonetic alphabet, which is second nature to me. I have learned that there are a few letters here and there that vary between different regions, but for the most part, it is: Adam, Boy, Charles, David, Edward, Frank, George, Henry, Ida, John, King, Lincoln, Mary, Nora, Ocean, Paul, Queen, Robert, Sam, Tom, Union, Victor, William, X-ray, Yellow, Zebra. As a child, my favorite I loved Adam-12 and "CHiPs". These both used this alphabet. In LAPD, an "Adam" unit is a police vehicle with two police officers, so Malloy and Reed were an "Adam" unit. In the California Highway Patrol, a motorcycle unit is "M" or "Mary". The CHP units deployed out of the Central Los Angeles CHP office have a pre-fix of "15", followed by their beat, such as 7, so when Ponch or Jon called in "LA 15, 7-Mary-3 & [7-Mary] 4" they were essentially saying "Central LA Dispatch, this is Jon and Ponch" (if they happen to be working side-by-side, Jon was "3" and Ponch was "4").
    With this phonetic alphabet, these are MOSTLY common first names that are either one or two-syllable words. Maybe it is because I learned it first, I just find the law enforcement version to be easier.

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp Před 14 hodinami

    I've never been in the military nor aviation, but I did once do telephone support and just learned the NATO phonetics so I could read off technical codes. People really appreciated hearing a consistent phonetic alphabet they were (at least somewhat) familiar with, as opposed the arbitrary ones used by most of the techs. "Quebec" threw a lot of people off though. Often had to switch to Queen because so many had no idea what Quebec even was.

  • @rickconstant6106
    @rickconstant6106 Před 23 dny

    I was a mechanic and used the NATO alphabet all the time to communicate VIN, registration numbers and part numbers for clarity.

  • @simonrancourt7834
    @simonrancourt7834 Před 26 dny

    Thanks from Québec.

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero5170 Před 26 dny +1

    0:40 - He said "Let's Find Out" to anyone wondering.... 😂

  • @LewisLittle66
    @LewisLittle66 Před 25 dny

    I used to work for a motor breakdown company and we were taught this in training. It was such a blessed relief when a customer knew it too.

  • @kacheek9101
    @kacheek9101 Před 26 dny +1

    It's so ridiculously useful for phone conversations. I'm in the medical field and use it all the time. I wish more of my colleagues did... it's painful and time consuming when they struggle to come up with words for letters

  • @jeanjaz
    @jeanjaz Před 3 dny

    I homeschooled my kids and often played "Hangman" to reinforce spelling words. I had my kids use the NATO phonetic alphabet to familiarize them with it. I don't think they memorized it, but they know it when they hear it.
    Of course my kids are grown and married now. Lol

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang9914 Před 24 dny

    In engineering, we were told that with the phone system, there was only a 50% comprehension of individual words, it is the context of the sentence that allows us to understand the conversations hence many people will develop a headache after a long telephone conversation. This was because the bandwidth filtered for each conversation was selected based on where most of the energy was but more recent studies showed that it was more the higher frequencies that determined what the word was hence the traditional bandwidth range actually muted much of the information. It was those studies that prompted telecommunications companies such as MCI to start advertising that on their services, you could hear a pin drop. Modern phone systems aren't just the traditional bandpass filters of the early analog systems to stack nultiple conversations together. Note, you used to also hear the occasional other communications on the old analog systems which were basically conversations heterodyned to a multiple of the frequency your conversation was mixed to...