Procedures for Flying In and Out of Mexico as a Resident
Vložit
- čas přidán 1. 03. 2023
- Want to thank me? Buy me a coffee
www.buymeacoffee.com/qroo
Travelex Travel Insurance (Affiliate*)
www.tkqlhce.com/click-1008440...
* We may receive a commission if you make a purchase after clicking on one of these links.
Check out the COMPLETE Mexico Relocation Guide: bit.ly/3SICdD0
Qroo Store: www.etsy.com/shop/QrooPaul
Thanks again Paul very informative & well delivered.
So if I have the Temporary Residence card, do I still need to have my passport with me?
Thanks! I was wondering about this.
Great video Paul! Thanks for sharing this valuable information! Saludos!
Thanks for the information
Great job!!
I really appreciate this channel. Thank you
Always good info, Q.P. Gracias
Thanks for always relying on you and this channel to keep us up to date.
There’s always a little gem in each video. Gracias.
Thanks Margaret. :)
Thank you QPaul for this update, my husband and I are looking forward to retiring in Mexico in two years. Looking forward to seeing your new video say hi to Linda.
Thanks Paul…I’m flying out tomorrow night for the first time since getting my residency. This cleared up the process for me. Thanks again!
Hank you for this helpful video!
Thanks for this info, especially the bit about Kiosks for RT and RP. Heading back to Mexico in two weeks and had heard the kiosks might only be for tourists. Thanks for confirming!!
gracias amigo!
We went through the arrival/departure resident process in November when we flew into and out of Guadalajara. Of course November had to be our first return as residents so we were a bit in the dark but it worked exactly as you described. Arriving is way easier, just showed our passports and visas to immigration, and stopping at the immigration booth on the way out was just as simple.
Excellent....thanks
Most welcome!
Thanks Paul for this information. I'm a permanent resident of Mexico as well and when I flew out of Guadalajara in February, I was ask prior to boarding with Volaris where was my immigration stamp in my passport by an agent. She couldn't find it and told me I couldn't fly and needed to go to immigration. Fortunately a more experienced agent found the stamp in my passport and I was relieved.
I am so glad you brought this up. I have permanent residence status and will be arriving in Cozumel March 11th. Since I haven't been to my home there since last June because of a medical procedure only available in the States, I was wondering what the new changes would mean for me. Once again, thanks for the update.
You've been reading my mind for the last year. RT, CURP, RFQ, etc. Everything you post has been relevant and timely to me. Have no idea what I need to know next.
Interesting, when I left Puerto Vallarta last month, after I had gotten my residency card, went to INM desk and showed my temporary residency card, they said I didn't need to do anything other than just show it to the person that checks passports right before you get to the baggage screening, they didn't stamp my passport, said it was no longer necessary. The ticket agent at Alaska Airlines desk didn't ask for it either. So seems some airports aren't going by the same procedure you had to go through at your airport.
yeah, pretty streamlined in PV
Leon bjx airport had me fill out fmm this March- no passport stamp only the fmm form stamp. The airline attendant at the ticket counter took the top part- the boarding gate attendant took the bottom part. Now I’m ready to fly back to Mexico but into Guadalajara- no fmm stamp or passport stamp! I’m rather confused and concerned about re-entry!
That was my experience at CDMX too
Nice to see this video tonite. I just did the first part of my perm residency permit today in the US. Should get my passport back tomorrow!
Congrats!
@@qroo thanks! Just picked it up today!
I went in October for a few days, flying from Cancun. The INM information is correct. All the rest is what you say because your INM friend told you the procedure. Which is not the reality...maybe not yet. I can give you a new update in a few weeks. Anyway, the new system is a blessing indeed. Nothing changed, actually. You still have to go to INM, and they make a stamp, instead of a form, so you do not run the risk of losing anything. Great improvement.
It’s a bit the opposite flying out of Morelia.. you go to the baggage and ticket check-in first, then go to INM, and you must show your passport with a little sticker from INM (no stamp) before entering security to get to your gate. If somehow you bypassed that, they usually bring a single INM agent that sits by the gate and they won’t let you board until you deal with INM if it’s an international flight.
We have our permanent residence status and flew early June out of Puerto Vallarta to Canada. We went to immigration and they told us we no longer had to go there. Just go to the ticket counter with our passport and residency card and check in. That was it! Our passport was stamped and written RP over the stamp! Easy! 😊
I flew out of Mexico last week from Cancun, T3. The UA airline checked me in (for the flight to ORD) without any problems (no PR stamp) and informed me that the INM kiosk was AFTER the security.
I checked with the INM officer AFTER the security at the INM kiosk (next to the restrooms on the opposite side of gate C11).
It was highly convenient. Unfortunately, this is still not the case in CZM (my home port).
Paul, please keep doing a great job 🙂
Those of us in Baja often drive back and forth. When I had Temporary Residency, I was ignorant or lazy and didn't check out when leaving. I would always check in at the border because my wife and or grandkids needed an FMM. During one trip, the immigration agent could see that I never checked out and told me I needed to be doing that. He told me I could check out in La Paz, where I live. It seemed odd to check out when being a two-day drive away from he border. I have yet to try it. It almost seems like I could drive back and forth and never check in and out, as they don't check at the border and now, with paperless, all I need is my card if ever asked about status (which never happens). There is NO convenient way to check out at the border. You would have to know where the immigration office is, park and walk to the office, and get in line. Border areas are extremely crowded, as you can imagine.
I enjoy ur vids and thought you would want to see this convo on a expat site. I posted the first and was responded to: 1. Here is more conflicting info for residents.....i was told as a resident leaving the country to to to migracion at the airport to get pp stamped then go to airline and security....so....today at cdmx i had to pick up a visitor so i took the opportunity to go to migration and asked them. They told me no resident leaving mexico need to to migracion first and to just to thru reg security. The only consistency is inconsistency 2. Hasn’t been necessary for a resident to go to INM at PVR since last July. The only need was to have an FMM that was required by all airlines to board a flight. Since FMMs are not required to board a flight there is no need. The old FMM actually stated the FMM for residents was for statistical purposes only
We have recently flown in and out of La Paz and Loreto and neither have an INM desk or kiosk in the unsecured area. At La Paz I wandered the back hallways and found a door that said INM office. I went in (surprising the officers) and then asked them about the new procedure. They responded that I didn't need to do anything leaving or returning. Just go to the airline desk and check in for the flight. When I checked in for the flight at the desk I asked about a passport stamp and the airline employee told me they don't do that when you are leaving. We returned through La Paz and went through the Resident line and just presented our passport (and received a stamp) and PR card with no issues. In Loreto it was the same procedure. Just check in with the airline and no passport stamp. As usual Mexico is consistently inconsistent!
I have a RT and live in Loreto. The IMF booth there is not regularly staffed so getting a stamp is not always possible. It's never been an issue.
Just a quick update on my comment about not visiting immigration with my visa card before leaving Puerto Vallarta. I re-entered last week and, just as Qroo Paul predicted, no one even blinked an eye. I will make a point of visiting immigration before leaving next time but I didn't suffer from forgetting this time.
Did you check in ONLINE with your airline? I am wondering about the question “which country do you currently live in “ Thinking because we have TempRes should say Mex but not really living here as yet???
@@AmethystBookstore I did check in online but with the app I used, they asked for my destination address rather than where I currently live. That's a good question...not sure how to answer that question at the moment.
I'm gonna say that going to the separate immigration office before getting into the ticket line is NOT easier than just handing over the FMM. I had to do this in Guadalajara last month and the office didn't open until 9am which made for a tight run for the gate. Two weeks ago coming back from SMA, the ticket agents said there was no immigration office for me to check into and just gave me my tickets.
Thanks for sharing that info. It is an inconsistent and often frustrating system.
AWESOME video!!Thank you!! What about traveling from Guadalajara to Cancun? What we should have with us( passport, DL or Permanente)? thank you
Going in and out of PV , I don't go to INM, I go to ticket counter, show my residency card. They put RP In yellow high lighter on stub portion of boarding pass. Gate agent yanks it off when I get into plane. I fly in and out every two week to USA. The procedure stopped last year in the summer. The INM one day just said no more. Landing in PV there is a short form declaration now and have to show PR card with passport at immigration.
I flew out of La Paz in Dec 2022 and they don't have an immigration office. I was told do nothing. On my return to Mexico, the customs agent in La Paz gave me the stamp and RP initials. So kinda similar to your experience just at the other end of the trip.
My only worry is if one doesn't return the way/location left from since everything is always inconsistent and possibly arbitrary.
GOOD. Some semblance of normalcy again. Whatever *that* is here in Mexico...
We have been coming in and out of Mexico City as Residents and at Terminal 2 the kiosk is not before ticket counter but after security TSA. We just landed at terminal 1 this time and will be leaving in a couple weeks so not sure if it will be the same. thanks
This is great to know as we have just become proud residents. On the down side, the whole reason we jumped through all those hoops to get residency was the recent uncertainty of how long they would give you to stay when entering the country. Now you say that has mostly been taken care of! We could have saved a lot of time and money. And bring our car down. Ah well...
Sounds like you didn't know that you can bring, and drive your US plated car down with a Temporary Residency for at least four years instead of having to sell it in order to get your Permanent Residency.
From my knowledge the INM counter in CDMX is close to the gate. So you will have your BoardingPass before.
Thanks for sharing that.
In January 2023 we Canadian tourists flew direct to Mexico City and used the self-serve immigration option. However, our return flight February 2023 from Guadalajara with American Airlines transiting DFW required us to go to the Mexican immigration kiosk to get our passports stamped before they would give us our tickets. This appeared to be a US requirement. Possibly the printed slip from the Mexican self-serve kiosk is not yet recognized by the US Border Service.
Doubt this is in any way a US requirement. The US has no say in what kinds of stamps/forms Mexican immigration uses, and this won't have any bearing on authorization to travel to the US.
@qroo what about if you fly out but enter via a land border crossing. In May we crossed into Texas at Piedras Negras and the border agent did not give us a FMM card. I thought hmm maybe they had implemented the paperless system. When we came back in 3 weeks later we got a polite scolding for not having received an FMM card.
I flew into SJD on Jan 22nd as a tourist. The agent asked how long I was going to be there; which was 14 days. He only stamped my passport for 19 days from my date of entry.
Thank you so much for this info. I have my temporary residency. I just saw this, and I didn't check in with INM before leaving the country. I didn't know I was supposed to and just checked in online. Will this cause me any problems when I reenter? How can I fix this? I'm nervous now.
We almost missed our flight yesterday because of this, we didn’t know
Leaving PV was still a bit confusing. No immigration office to check out. Simply showed the clerk at the ticket window our temporary cards and they wrote RT on the boarding pass. I hope they didn't mess us up for a next visit.
they did the same thing to me. I was also confused. I think we are fine.
Paul would you please do a video on none resident tax (DNR) and how residents can avoid paying or get refunded for paying the fees associated?
I was told by a Volaris customer service agent I could request a refund when I check in day of flight. I will see how that goes.
Thanks
Great video, Paul! The tip about Permanentes avoiding the self service kiosks is super-valuable. About the auto-180 days for Canadian /American tourists though... I presume that this DOES NOT mean the old days of residing in Mexico on a series of tourist cards have returned. (You did not say. ) Doubtless, INM will paperlessly determine how many times a "tourist" has done this, and yank back the auto-180 if deemed necessary?
Yes, the perpetual tourists are back -- if they ever really left. I know more than a few of them. They just can't meet the financial requirements for residency.
@@qroo I thought the passport number is checked for that very reason?
@@qroo For the Perps you know, consider (quietly) passing along the following insight: When I got my Permanente in 2013 the requirement was only $1000 month, but the thing is, it could be THE SAME $1000! (Cycled around and around between two bank accounts. INM just wanted 3 bank statements showing the money coming into an account.) Will that same trick, or some variant of it, still work? Knowing Mexico as I do, probably...
Just gone to CDMX, the kiosk in T1 is after security. After standing in line for 30 minutes to check in, they told me that I didn't need to present there and the lady at INM said the only thing I need to do is get the stamp from her
Hello, I am Permanent Resident in Mexico.
Recently, I left Cancun in June 2023 from Terminal 3
The INM is on the left side when you enter the airport, before the escalators and before the restrooms
But it must be noted that there are certain hours (5am - 8am) this is not open. It has a sign there.
In that case, the INM office during those hours is located across Gate C5, after security is completed.
This is as of June 2023 and things can change. Please ask at the airport.
FYI - My husband and I flew into QRO in Nov 2023 and we only got 90 days vs. 180 days . The agents just decide to make up their own rules. They said policy changed and no longer give 180.days for tourists. When i questioned I recieved 🤚🏻and not to argue.
Hi Paul, Thanks for sharing the information. I am a temporary resident of Mexico. I will take a curise from US to Cozumel. May I know if I need to show my passport and TR card when i entry and leave Cozumel like in the Mexico airport? Thanks.
Paul, As always, things are a bit fluid in MX. As temporary residents, we flew out of Querétaro last Thursday and the kind lady at the Immigration office took our paper forms and said they were no longer needed. She did not stamp our passports. It made us a little nervous as we will be flying back in through a different airport. We will see how it goes! If they are not stamping passports on the inbound flights then I wonder why they are on some outbound flights.
Cheers!
There is no consistency at all when it comes to INM...lol. Thanks for sharing that info.
We flew out of PV in October, just as things had changed to the electronic FMM. When we stopped at INM prior to security, showed our residency card and asked if we needed a stamp, they told us no we did not need anything to exit. So we’re stampless as well and a bit nervous about our return, as it seems things have firmed up more now and exit stamps are back on. Fingers crossed no issues on entry for us! Thank so much - as always - for this great content!!!
@@m.l.summers487 I am a permanent resident as well and when I flew back to the states from Guadalajara they told me I couldn't fly without the immigration stamp in my passport and fortunately for me it was there. Good fortune in your travels.
Hi Paul and Linda, great video. I do have a question though. I recently obtained my Temporary Residency Card and often drive across the border between San Diego and Tijuana. Going into Tijuana is easy to stop and get my passport stamped. I believe INM still issues the paper FMM as you enter Tijuana. However, if I drive back to the US there isn't an INM office in the line up to enter US. The old FMM system was to just discard the slip of paper when I returned to the US. Wonder if that is the same procedure with the Temporary Residency Card. Do you have any experience in driving across the border? Thanks!
Gotta tell ya ; took international flights from Puerto Vallarta ; no service whatsoever - was directed to INM at Mexico City Airport (no problem)
Hey Paul. As always, great info. A question however. You said when returning to Mexico, just get into "your regular line." What does that mean as a resident? We haven't flown out of the country since getting our residencies. I heard that it's a different line for residents re-entering. Can you address that? Thanks again!
Permanent residents here! When we arrive in Mexico, we choose the line designated for Mexican citizens and residents. No special procedures. Bonus - in our experience (PV) this line is almost always shorter than the one designated for tourists.
We just bought a place in Cabo. It won't be ready until 2024 but trying to understand the issues we may run into. My partner is Mexican, but I'm not. We have a home here in the States and would like to bring things from here to there (not furniture or big items, but smaller more essential stuff that fit in a suitcase or two). Is that a problem? Are there restrictions when you come back from the States on what you bring in (not talking about the usual restrictions of food/plants, etc)? I'll be getting Temp residency first - partner is already a Mexican citizen so no issues there. Any insights would be appreciated.
Anyone have experience leaving Mexico using the CBX bridge at Tijuana airport? Is there an INM kiosk before you exit??
Vallarta is paperless but residents (like us) don’t have to stop at INM when leaving. The airlines fill out FMMs for you and they say it’s just for airline bookkeeping. You can either go to the ticket counter or straight to the gate if you’re not checking bags and you have a boarding pass and have them do the FMM. Either way make sure you check in with an airline agent (and show them your residency card) before getting on the plane to leave Vallarta for another country.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.
Nobody told me that at all when I just left last month, I hope that I didn't inadvertently void my temporary residency (which has taken my 3 years to get), the INM desk mentioned none of this to me.
@@rcooley111 In PV the departure process is kind of automatic. The airlines handle in now. Just make sure you return via the nationals/residents INM line and show them your residency card, and make sure they don’t process you as a tourist. I’m sure you’ll be fine.
Did you check in ONLINE with your airline? I am wondering about the question “which country do you currently live in “ Thinking because we have TempRes should say Mex but not really living here as yet??? I was confused and put Canada … hope the airline can fix that for me at the counter!
When checking in ONLINE with your airline … I am wondering about the question “which country do you currently live in “ Thinking because we have TempRes should say Mex but not really living here as yet??? I was confused and put Canada … hope the airline can fix that for me at the counter!
Hi Paul.. I was watching your video of leaving and coming into Mexico.. I travelled October 2022 to get temporary residency. Unfortunately my daughter was sick and in hospital. I was very stressed and needed to get her home. On leaving Mexico, I did not know I had to go to inm with my temporary residency and passport to be stamped so I just show my passport. I am due to come back and was told by my facilitator to just show my temp at the airport. The question is.. would they look for the stamp in passport on returning because it was not done on the way out.. in need of advice thx
I flew from cancun airport. What is there process for leaving and entering Mexico.. am new to this system. and did not know i had to show my temporary residency at the airport..will this jeprodize my temp residency coming back into cancun. Any advice much appreciated
What is the procedure for driving in and out of Mexico for RT? Thanks
Hello, How about using self checkout terminals when leaving as a resident to print boarding pass. I did it last couple of times and did not have any problems returning to Mexico. Thanks.
Yes, those are fine.
Hey thanks Paul. As a tourist entering Mexico I've never had any problems, welcoming me into Mexico. As a US citizen entering the USA ( but born in Canada), I get this suspiciousness and questions from the US customs like where have you been and why..!.
I get the same thing and I'm an American.
We have our temporary residency - Left from SJD (Cabo) on Thursday. The emigration office was closed - information didn’t know what was happening - went to the Delta counter - they didn’t know what was happening - and we boarded the flight home without any stamps in our passport and no paper form. Hopefully this won’t screw us up the next time we return. Thoughts??
We also fly out of SJD on early morning flights when the INM office is not open. At United Airlines the gate agents take a photo of our R/P then forwards it to the INM agent supervisor. Surprised Delta doesn't do the same for their customers.
Is there any special line at airport for Temp Residents or same line as everyone else checking bags & getting boading passes?
Question, When we left in 2021 Mx was still using the FMM paper system and we kept our paper half form. When we return this month should we show the paper half of the FMM form we kept?
Also are we allowed to use the line for Mexican Residents or use the tourist line?, Thanks -Jon and Karin
Hi, there is a Citizens line and a Visitors line. Many legal residents use the "citizens" line, but you arean't suposed to, unless you are an actual Mexican Citizen. This was told to me by an Immigration officer anyway. :) Not sure on the other, I's show it and explain you've been gone maybe.
What about by land? Driving to the US from Mexico.
In PVR you dont go to INM counter. You go to the ticket counter. You cannot download boarding pass and go to gate. You must go to counter with your resident card first
We can't download the pass either as residents but INM said we are required to register our departures by law.hence the computer entry and the stamp in the passport.
@@qroo yes but at pvr at ticket counter not inm counter
@@chrisconleymedia That’s right. The airlines “process” an FMM for you at PVR. The INM office there confirmed that.
Do you know how they are handling this at the CBX bridge from TJ to San Diego? Permanent resident asking.
I got my temp res visa in phx and plan to drive to Queretaro from Abq new Mexico: how, where and when do i handle my paperwork after i cross the border??
Thx
Do you have any experience or info about leaving for a week and then returning to Mexico by car as a Resident? I still have a US plated car. BTW- Are you and Linda visiting FL? That sure looks like your typical Florida back yard with the mandatory pool and the screened in back porch that gives it away.
If you enter by car as a resident, there is nothing special you have to do. And yes, that was filmed in Florida. Good eye. We divide our time between Florida and Mexico these days because Linda's mother needs more assistance than she used to. She lives in Florida.
I flew out this March out of Leon BJX- immigration had me fill out fmm- stamped it. The airline ticket counter took the top part- the boarding gate attendant took the bottom part. Now I want to return but to Guadalajara airport- I don’t have an fmm or passport exit stamped!! What to expect when I’m at Guadalajara airport immigration re-entering ? Gracias
I'm a permanent resident, I'm planning a trip in a couple of months time. Is covid check still a thing? Loving your video's full of info.
No, no COVID checks now.
Was wondering this too, but things aren't set in stones, so it might change again if another wave hits.
Hope not.
Airports and procedures seem to change daily. I didn’t need to go to INM office at Christmas time to have my passport stamped at Los Cabo’s airport. Didn’t fill any paperwork out. Nada
Chances are it’ll change again
The responsibility falls on the resident to notify INM, not the airline to ask if you entered as a tourist or a resident. At least this is per INM in Cancun.
do i have to keep an active passport if I plan to not return to USA. Is my Permanent Resident card the only legal id I need?
I fly to Mexico in July to queretaro first time flying what information do I need if I’m a permanent resident in us
I recently got my temporary residency, so which line do I get in when I return to Mexico after a trip back to the US?
Is it the foreigner line, since I have a US passport? Or the Mexican line, since I have legal residency?
My Spanish is still minimal (learning), of that makes any difference in your answer.
We normally use the Mexican line. It has worked the last 14 out of 15 times. On one occasion, an INM employee said that unlike in the U.S., their line does not say citizens and residents -- just citizens (Mexicans).
Thanks for the video. For anyone flying out of CDMX, the INM kiosk is AFTER security. For coming back in, I was wondering, as a temp/permanent resident, are you allowed in the Mexican line, or do you have to be in the Extranjeros line?
You ALWAYS go through the Mexican line
@@squeakerrat
I was wondering this too.
Thanks for the answer.
We usually go through the Mexican line and it has worked 14 times out of 15. That one time is when an INM agent points out that unlike in the U.S., our line does not say citizens and residents.
@@qroo
It shows that, again, it may depend on the day/agent etc.
Which is what I've come to expect from Mex.
Silver > gold #vacation - don’t fly without your ID bring extra if they tell you something else. If I don’t know now I know #dontsayno but then you change your wait time but the ticket and trip still exists like before … what’s the problem?
Thanks Paul, very informative. Here's another question that you may be able to answer. What happens if you are a permanent residence, departed Mexico under the paper-based FMM system for an extended period of time, and want to come back into Mexico through an airport (such as Cancun) that has since gone paperless? Can you still show the immigration agents the FMM stub to be allowed entry without losing permanent resident status?
I want to know the same.
I did exactly that at Manzanillo and the agent just said "we don't use those any more", stamped my passport, and I threw the FMM stub away.
@@ricobennett5598 Thanks, that's reassuring.
So what happens if I am a resident and I return so early in the morning that the INM office is not open? Am I supposed to wait around for them to open?
When I was leaving Mexico from CDMX airport (as a permanent resident) in Juli 2023 I only had to show my passport for check in and boarding. No registration, no stamp, nothing. So the authorities have no record that I have left the country.
Have you been back since? I just left Zihua and I didn't even ask anyone because I had been told last time I left Queretero I didn't need to do anything. So I didn't get any kind of stamp, etc. that shows I left. Now I am worried there could be an issue returning. But they don't seem to use a computer checking us in. Just visual examination of card and stamp.
Yes, in January. Same thing. The Mexican authorities have no record when you are leaving the country.
Hi Paul, PLEASE give me your opinion on this. We just got back from Puerto Vallarta 2 days ago and received our temporary residency cards (Yay!!🎉). BUT when leaving the airport the INM office was supposed to be open at 9am...but never opened?!? We had to get to our gate and left the line. I asked 3 employees and everyone said I didn't have to go to INM and to just tell them at the Gate...which I did but still no one seemed to care and didn't stamp anything?? I'm confused....will they ask to see an exit stamp from this trip when I go back to MX in 1 year??
You'll be fine. It happens quite often. If you left by land you wouldn't have a stamp either.
@qroo It's confusing...because nobody asked for exit stamp at the Gate (luckily) and in researching its not clear if Temporary Residents have to get a "Stamp every time they leave Mexico" OR Just show our "Passports and Mexican Residency card".
Thanks Paul, informative video as always. Permanent resident Q: I'm heading to the U.S. for the summer, but flying MEX-TIJ and crossing on the CBX. Do I need to check in with immigration before boarding my flight?
No, not for domestic flights. Have a safe trip. :)
@@qroo Do you have any updates about residents crossing at CBX? Because it's technically a land-crossing, there was no way to check out of México using an FMM, so one just exited to US immigration/customs. On return, one completed an FMM in Otay Mesa so that the INM agent had something to stamp.
@@geoffbraun9734
upon returning to Mexico, residents should NEVER fill out an FMM because it could convert them into tourists and invalidate their residency. Instead you should simply present your resident card (and passport if asked) to INM like any Mexican would
@@dougmaus4468 been doing this for more than five years. The key is ensuring that the INM agent doesn't fill out any of the boxes but writes RP on the top. Have you tried crossing at CBX without an FMM? I tried it once, and the agent scowled at me and complete the top part for me herself.
@@geoffbraun9734 okay, as long as you know to do it safely. IMHO it's far better to be scowled at than to lose your residency due to mere oversight. I have never been required to fill out an FMM myself at other land crossings
I usually fly domestically to Mexicali and then walk across the border there. As a temporary resident do I need to do anything on the Mexican side?
No, you're fine. The land crossings are different.
Algorithm chow!
❤️🍀
Is anyone else listening to this and thinking, what a hassle to be a resident?! Stay a tourist as long as possible if it makes sense. I go back and forth a LOT and even though I am spending a lot of time in Mexico, it makes no sense to get involved in the headache of being a resident in their system. I am hoping they are moving toward also automating things for residents soon so that it will all be automatic (no checking in with a booth adding extra stress.) My advice is just stay out of the resident system unless you absolutely have to/need to.
Would be willing to do an explanation of the INE, INE PART B 🤔 situation going on in Mexico politics?
I've been following that issue in the news but I'm not sure how interesting it would be to the majority of the folks who follow the channel.
I got my temp residency in Mazatlan in Dec 2022. They don’t use paper FMMs now at the airport.
When I flew out (Volaris Mazatlan to Tijuana and then crossing over to San Diego using CBX land crossing), I went to INM in Mazatlán and told them I was flying to TJ and then crossing over with the tunnel (CBX), they said I didn’t need anything stamped.
Once I arrived in TJ, I didn’t go to INM and get a stamp. No one asked about anything and I just walked through to US.
I just returned to Mazatlan 02/27/2023 walking over to TJ with CBX again and then flying Volaris to Mazatlan. No one asked to see any stamp either.
I presume it is because all my flights began and terminated within Mexico. And the airlines don’t check for that stamp when they board you.
Any insights? Will I get nailed at some point because I am coming from the US (even though flying out of TJ) and want to a see a stamp that no one gave me?
No, you wont have any issues. Land crossings are handled differently and even among the international airports, there is no consistency at all. I can see this possibly being more important for people going for citizenship because they have to prove that they were not outisde of Mexico for more than a total of 6 months in the last 2 years before applying.
@@qroo what I thought but good to here your seasoned opinion. Thank you. Looking forward those new videos.
Thanks for the info but I now have a question based on our recent experience after using an immigration lawyer to get our RPs back in December. Specifically we were told that when leaving Mexico (in PV) that there was no need to go to INM prior to going to the airline counter in order to check in. We were told to make sure that we first gave our RP cards to the check in person and then give him/her our passports. This was to ensure that the airline knew we were residents and that we were leaving Mexico. The checkin person never asked us any questions and sent us on our way to our gate, where we made it onto our plane back to Canada with no issues. From ur video u said that we should have gone to INM. I am a bit confused now. Because we were new residents and didn’t want to jeopardize our resident status, we were very, very specific with our lawyer as to Mexico’s expectations from us when entering and leaving the country. Basically the only thing we were told was to present our resident cards before our passports to the immigration official at his/her station upon entering Mexico and then, as stated above, to the airline when leaving. Based on the previous info, should we now be concerned when we go back to PV in April that our resident status may be screwed up?
You did it right. That’s how it works at the Puerto Vallarta airport.
@@scottgoebl6194 thanks 4 ur reply
We had the same experience leaving PV in Oct 22 - no exit stamp in our passport. Returning via CDMX later this year and hoping no entry issues. Definitely avoiding the self-service kiosks is key! It seems some agents directing traffic at entry in CDMX are incorrectly sending resident card holders there after being asked - only to find out they received a 180 tourist entry stamp! ( a definite problem). A human INM officer at entry is key for residents for now.
Did you check in ONLINE with your airline? I am wondering about the question “which country do you currently live in “ Thinking because we have TempRes should say Mex but not really living here as yet??? I was confused and put Canada … hope the airline can fix that for me at the counter!
@@AmethystBookstore we did check in online but based on the advice given to us by our lawyer we gave the airline check in person our RP cards and passports when we dropped off our bags. As far as your “country of residence” question goes, we were told to put in the country where we live most of the year. Don’t know what advice others may have for you. Hope this helps.
I usually fly to Tijuana and then cross into the US on foot. It's a bit of a mixed bag there, and I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do. I have approached the INM officers that stand at the entrance to the baggage claim area, and they tell me that residents do nothing...no stamp in the passport, nothing at all. When I return, I go to the line for Mexican citizens, the officer scans my residency card and stamps my passport. I'm still not sure that's what is supposed to happen.... do you happen to know the actual rules?
I was wondering if there was an INM kiosk before you get to the CBX bridge. Last time I used CBX I wasn't a resident.
@@CigarAttache Actually, if you use the bridge in Tijuana, you do not have to get a stamp to exit Mexico. When you return, just get into the same line as Mexican citizens and show your residency card. If you leave Mexico by air, however, the process is very different.
Actually this is not correct. I checked in online with United flying out of Cancun. When I arrived at the airport I went directly to the INM kiosk and showed my digital boarding pass. My passport was stamped and out I went to my departure gate after passing the security check points.
Paul, I am a permanent resident. I recently left and returned to Puerto Vallarta but when I left I did not go to the IMM desk. Returned with no problem. But should I do something so that I don't jeopardize my permanent residency?
The airlines will let you leave if they domt know you are a resident but we are "supposed" to notify INM when we leave as residents.
I'm a permanent resident of Mexico and flew Veracruz to CDMX to Atlanta a month ago and didn't pass through security or an INM after landing in CDMX. I did show my PR card and passport in Veracruz even though that leg was domestic.
What is the requirement to enter by air if you departed by land and did not receive an exit stamp? I have been getting them to stamp my passport at the land border when I depart but they are quite reluctant to do so. Worse yet, if you travel by international bus, the bus will not even stop at immigration. Last time I went to Nuevo Laredo on the way to San Antonio, I deboarded the bus in Nuevo Laredo and took a taxi to the border and then rejoined the bus on the other side of the border. So far, I have not returned by air, but I always want to leave the option open to do so.
In Tijuana last month, I had to convince them to give me an entry stamp, but they did confirm that there was no need to get an exit stamp at the land border.
No worries. Just enter as you normally would. That is a common scenario. There are a lot of inconsistencies on how Mexico handles land and air entries.
@@qroo One additional question - I plan on applying for citizenship once I have completed 5 years of residency. Would leaving the land border without a stamp and reentering by plane affect this process?
Are there certain procedures for Mexico permanent residents when boarding national flights? For example, are there procedures for Mexican residents when flying from Cuidad Juarez to Mexico City?
No, nothing special but I recommend carrying your immigration card with you because INM has been known to do random checks of passengers waiting for domestic flights.
@@qroo Hi Paul, your videos on Mexico expat life are some of the most practical and useful out there. Thank you for replying. I assume that Mexican temp and permanent residents will need to have their passport booklets on their person also?
INM also routinely profiles all passengers arriving on domestic flights to Mexican border towns, so be prepared to show your resident card in those cases too
I recently returned back to the US back from Puerto Vallarta, and I didn’t have to go to the immigration office upon leaving for them to stamp anything. I couldn’t even find an immigration place. The person that attended me upon check in from United wrote out a mini fmm form for me for me to show to the gate agent upon leaving. I think this person took that form from me, and that was enough. Genuinely very confused as I don’t think there was any exit stamp given, but I can’t fully remember. Man, I love ‘em to death but they are an unorganized, aloof bunch aren’t they? Really difficult to follow all of these rule and process changes. Shouldn’t it be organized in a way where you absolutely have to pass through inm upon departure? It sounds to me like Cancun had it set up as a voluntary thing, which makes no sense.
Oh god! I didn't know I had to go to the immigration office before I left (I just got my card last month) I wasn't asked anything at the check in counter. Does anyone know what will happen when I return to Puerto Vallarta?
Nothing will happen. You'll be fine. The paperless FMM is new and there are things they need to work out. I'm hoping they do away with the requirement to check in separately when leaving. Perhaps we are just overly cautious when following rules and laws. The whole ex-cop thing...lol.
@@qroo Thank you for replying...I'm a bit of a rule follower myself but I feel better now that you've pointed out the newness of the system.
An immigration lawyer told me if we fail to get the poroper stamp in our passport when leaving Mexico, it voids our resdiency and when we come back we will be marked as tourists (no longer having legal residency). Not trying to freak you out, but this is what a lawyer told me, you better look into it via legal advise. Good luck.
Reply
@@tivsma When our Mex consulate in Canada had given us a 30 day visa so we could finalize the residency process upon entering Mexico, we were warned by the person assisting us in PV that if a person in our situation enters Mexico as a tourist inadvertently at that point, that invalidates the residency process. Since becoming residents, and with recent changes to arrival and departure procedures, we have had no issues. In PV INM no longer stamps passports on exit. We just need to show our residency cards to the airline on departure.
@@tivsma which lawyer? Probably looking to move him/her to another tax bracket. Lol
I left for Canada two weeks ago without going through the immigration office. Returning after 4 days I entered by presenting my permanent resident card and my passport. What is the impact of not notifying INM of my departure. THANKS
Interesting question..I haven't heard of any bpeople who fail to notify INM of their departure. It could be a good topic for a future video.
An immigration lawyer told me if we fail to get the poroper stamp in our passport when leaving Mexico, it voids our resdiency and when we come back we will be marked as tourists (no longer having legal residency). Not trying to freak you out, but this is what a lawyer told me, you better look into it via legal advise. Good luck.
@@tivsma Thanks for the extra information. Being a lawyer myself, I tend to go to the source for information. The absence of a stamp in the passport when leaving Mexico is not among the grounds for loss of permanent resident status in the law. I contacted a specialized lawyer who could not tell me what the consequence was. I continue my research but if your lawyer could indicate me the reference in the law I would appreciate. It could make for an interesting video. I left through Terminal 4 in Cancun and there is no immigration office in this terminal which makes it difficult to meet this condition. Thank you and good day.
@@tivsma Also, if it helps in finding the information, the customs agent indicated in my passeport T.R.P. However, I don't know the meaning. THANKS
@@bernarddufour5969 Yes that is what they are suposed to put as far as I know. Contact Sonia Diaz or Ian Clement, they can help you with undersstanding legalities. Good luck!
The Mexican peso is getting more expencive to the dollar, can you talk a bit about this issue please?
Interest rates above inflation instead of interest rates below inflation.
@@brianpereira7483 Also the Mexican peso was 21-20 per dollar... today its at 18 and dropping to 17 pesos per dollar. and it wont stop. you get less pesos for your dollar.
@@tucsonazul because of what I said and as long as the trend continues then thats what your going to see going forward. Same as brazil,russia and other countries with interest rates above inflation
@@brianpereira7483 No, I dont think you understand what I'm saying. But thanks anyway.
@@tucsonazul I do understand but I'm explaining why its happening,
A paperless system works great… as long as they remember to actually *scan* your visa into it 😂😂😂 Otherwise, not even a proper stamp and signature in the passport will save you: every INM office will try to bounce you over to another one or urge you to just leave the country (effectively cancelling everything you've done to get your visa at this point) and reenter (therefore, reentering an airport where they may very well forget to scan your passport visa AGAIN). Take guess how we know this 😢😢😢
nothing beats multiple citizenships.