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So I have gone through this process in Brazil, Ecuador and Mexico, and honestly, it’s much easier in Mexico than in the other countries - in spite of these inconsistencies.
Hey Paul, I am in Mexico now finishing up the residency process. I am really grateful for all the information you have provided. I would have been lost if I didnt find your channel. It really helped me through this process. Also I emailed a few consulates and they are all different with the requirements and if they were even taking appointments for residency for the year (I guess they have a max of how many one consulate can issue?). I ended up going with the Indy Consulate. I actually like what they did to make sure I would qualify by having me sending them via email all the required paperwork. They reviewed the application before getting an appointment. We went back and forth a little bit with some additional documents that they needed. When they were satisfied with all the documents I was able to get an appointment. **Side note: I had requested a Permanent Residency because I heard from one of your videos "why not ask" so I did and I qualified with the amount I make. I am a digital nomad btw On arrival at the Indy Consulate the process went pretty smooth. I just made copies before hand of the documents that we already reviewed, had my picture taken and got my sticker for my passport. I decided to finish the residency process in an INM office that may not be so busy. From the google maps reviews of Cancun and Playa del Carmen INM offices the reviewers stated difficulties at each of these offices. I can only imagine that these offices are overwhelmed and have a lot of applicants that go there. I decided to go to Cozumel and I am very happy I did. There are no lines in that office and you don’t need to get an appointment. You show up and ask what information and paperwork the office needs. They give you a little paper with what they want. The paperwork is pretty much what you have in your videos. The only issue was getting a proof of address, I asked my AirBNB host for help and they were able to give me a electric bill. Very kind people. Thank you so much for your help my friend, it has made the process a lot more doable.
Hi Matthew, did you have to go back more than once in Cozumel or you were able to finish up in one day, you also mentioned a list ? Did you receive your card in that office visit ?
Good video. I finally got my permeant residency a few months ago. The hardest thing was getting an appointment at a Mexican consulate. Orlando was impossible. The central system was useless. I tried using an immigration attorney and wasted hundreds of dollars with no success. A Mexican friend helped me get an appointment at the Miami consulate - That was a very smooth process. I am very happy living almost full time in Oaxaca!
I just converted my temporary residency to permanent earlier this month. So many things can go wrong, and every consulate and INM office is different from the next one. Am now breathing easier and will be deciding if my next step will be citizenship. I hate my fideicomiso!
This is so true. I wanted to retire in Mexico but with the 2023 changes, I unfortunately found out the hard way. Each Embassy is dirrerent by U.S. State. Boy what a dissapointment. Well unfortunately I do not qualify. So down the tube go my plans. Thanks for telling the truth and explaining this. Too many You-Tubers have no idea what they are talking about.
None of your videos are boring...the amount of valuable information you share with us is so helpful and is making my transition to Mexico so much easier. Thank you! The cards you're selling on Etsy are also brilliant. If you're looking for an idea for a video, I'm going to apply for my 3 year extension on my temp visa which, when completed, will become permanent. Would love to learn that process.
I just did mine in September. Very easy. They gave me the option of paying for 1 year and resubmitting paperwork or paying more and extending it for 3 years with no U.S. financials. Made no sense to me, but obviously I paid, filled out MX paperwork, then went in for more photos and fingerprints, and my card arrived in a couple weeks. All done in Mexico. No fuss. My 3 yr. fee was approx. $738 USD. Just my experience, of course.
Hey Paul, you know the material is kind of dry, but you make it enjoyable. Love your style & humour as always. Always looking forward to another "recording" by you & Linda too! Gratitude!
Please note that most US based Mexican Consulates will not accept applications from people who live out of state. You must be a resident of the state in which you apply and be able to prove it. I became a permanent resident of Mexico last year and this was the rule. Lots of Californians used to come apply in my state because it was so much cheaper. That ended last year. I am a member of the Mexican Relocation Guide group and I highlhy recommend it if you are either planning on moving to Mexico or, like me, you just spend part of the year there. Along with Qroo & LInda's channel, you will save yourself mucho grief!
Even with the income issues being inconsistent the overall process is simple compared to other countries in Latin America. I have residency in Guatemala as well - every single document had to be authenticated and translated and they required a police certificate as well. And I cannot leave the country for more than 365 days. Residency cards need to be renewed every 10 years. Most of the foreigners I meet in Guatemala do not even bother. They (or their passport) just travel every 90 days. I had residency in Nicaragua in the past - if you obtain it through marriage and do not have children you immediately lose it upon divorce regardless of how long you have been there. Mexico has been so much easier
Similar to canada. Mex is easier, at the same time, not! Hard to navigate through all the paperwork and laws, which is turned into further nightmare when they are so inconsistent and employee are left to themselves figuring the new systems all the time....
Pues con todo y eso, veo miles de extranjeros viviendo en la Ciudad de México, cómo nunca, es realmente impresionante, y no parecen preocupados por tener su residencia.
The last few people I helped to get residency status went through the "regularización" process, which was put into place during covid. Travel was shut down so anyone who exceeded their 6 months as a tourist was automatically allowed to apply for and receive residency. No proof of financial status required - just having been here 6 months and wanting to stay longer was all that was required. I have not checked lately if they are still doing this. Requirements were: be here as a tourist for 6 months plus one day. When our friend went through this in April, everyone in the INM office was doing the same thing. Application cost was the same whether you had all your paperwork from the Mexican consulate, or you had simply overstayed your tourist welcome.
HI! thats awesome, im happy you through it and finally have your residence. can you please share the link to apply after staying for 6 months as a tourist
Good and true information. Also some consulates require signed and stamped statements and some don't. I went to McAllen TX and it was great. Total 30 minutes start to finish. Very good people to work with. I go to Queretaro the 23rd to complete the process.
@@terrymolness2118 No they didn't Houston said they had to that is why I drove to McAllen. I had plenty of assets but could not get them signed sither. So down to McAllen I went.
@@jpsmusicandmore5457 Was there anything they required that you were not aware of before your appt? Did you need copies of your financials or just the originals? I will be using brokerage statements and each month is numerous pages long due to spacing and partial printed pages. Do they just need the balance information pages and not the detail of every single transaction throughout the year?
@@terrymolness2118 I brought copies. They were of my bank statements. IRA's 401K etc... Anything that was a financial asset. They only needed one IRA from Lincoln financial. it was a book. All 12 months many pages each. They took only the top page each and never looked at anything else. They asked what I wanted and I said permanent since I know I had more than enough. I did not have any originals all copies all my statements come in emails or online. Houston said they wanted stamped and signed so I went to McAllen. The 2 people I met with a young guy and girl were super nice and friendly. 30 minutes start to finish in my car heading home. Take all the pages...
@@qroo THANK YOU Paul...in 09:00 minutes, you answered the question I've been asking for MANY years...BUT...no-one at INM would answer. I sincerely appreciate ALL the valuable information your videos provide. Best regards, Ben
Bottom line...current MX authorities (AMLO government + number of state governors) are increasingly anti-immigration (especially from the Western hemisphere). You are welcomed here as a tourist/visitor. The process described by Mr. Paul has been intentionally implemented to deter mass migration.
For all the 55 years I've been coming to MX, I've learned that there's a love-hate attitude from Mexico to Americans. It's a very odd thing. One of Mexico's oddities. Many Mexicans think that most gringos are millionaires, with money trees in the back yard. So if they take money from you, they need it more than you, and you can always replace it from your money tree in the back yard. It's a SURVIVAL CULTURE, where many times, people worry if they can put dinner on the table THAT NIGHT. That will motivate much of their decisions. Mexicans voted 11 TIMES for Santa Anna for President of MX, no matter how harsh or corrupt he might be. A real head-scratcher. If you try to figure it all out, you'll go nuts! The culture is SO different from ours, in so many ways. I recommend a book to help in your decision-making, especially if you want to immigrate. www.amazon.com/Manana-Forever-Jorge-G-Castañeda-ebook/dp/B004G8PIYU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1685322597&refinements=p_27%3AJorge+G.+Castañeda&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=Jorge+G.+Castañeda. And just when you think you understand it all, it will change on a dime! So be prepared for an adventure, LOL. You're not in Kansas anymore!
I did not acquire my temporary residency at a Mexican consulate in the U.S. but rather at the Institute of National Migration here in Querétaro. Granted, I am married to a Mexican citizen (I am an American citizen). I didn’t have to give any - zilch - financial information (I am a retired teacher from Dallas) … I guess they assumed my husband would “vouch” for me. :-) :-)
Another helpful video 👍 Just got temporary visa for Mexico here in Australia, the only difficult bit was having to fly to Canberra(only embassy here) to get it processed... it took less than 2hrs complete...
Very useful video. Once you’ve lived in México for a while, you learn to never ask why. I’ve seen people comparing consulates on other sites, such as Facebook. Consulate shopping as you say! Some seem far more stringent than others. Gracias amigo!
I have been trying to make an appointment for temporary residency at the Mexican consulate for many months . I finally got an appointment for January 5th . The monthly income requirement at my local consulate was $2,500 , which i qualified for . Within 1 minute at my appointment at the Mexican Consulate they tell me that my monthly income does not qualify for temporary residency now , Since they raised the minimum monthly requirement to $3 ,150 overnight on January 1st . That is a 25% Increase at once , that is a big increase . Now I do - not qualify for temporary residency .
So sorry to hear that. I am still hopeful that they will start switshing over to UMA because that limit is very high, especially considering average salaries in Mexico.
How disappointing! Could you go back (if it's close), explain, and ask them if they have permission to use the UMA? They might have some flexibility now. It would likely involve a personal visit, these thing are best done in person.
I believe Mexico is purposefully making the process more difficult. I hear people saying all the time that the consulates are overwhelmed because they are understaffed. It would be an easy fix to add more staff but clearly they don’t want to. They could also choose to use the UMA, the lower criteria for financial solvency. But they choose not to. I am a permanent resident and on the day of my appointment I was the only foreigner there. Mostly they were processing Mexican citizens for various things. My visa was even ready ahead of schedule that day. The ladies were laughing and chit-chatting and seemed quite relaxed behind the counter. They didn’t seem overwhelmed to me. I will go as far as to say I think they are picking and choosing who they want to process That’s my two cents. Thanks again for another great video!
I'm so happy I found your channel man. It's so insightful and invaluable for my planning. This one caught my eye because I nearly make the economic solvency requirements but not all the way, the requirements in my country for the single consulate we have are ridiculous. If I had done it like two years ago I might have had a better shot but back then I was in a far worse financial situation so it wasn't an option. I feel a bit defeated lol, but I refuse to give up. Any words of advice to keep me in the fight?
Grateful to have our permanent resident cards. And although this is a serious and frustrating situation for people trying to become residents. It's was helpful and hysterical. Loved the conversation between each government entity. 🤣 great job.
The lack of standardization is like a pre-test to find out if you can navigate governmental processes. But honestly, they make it so easy on us compared to people trying to go to the US. The hoops are a small price to pay for being able to live here.
That point about the comparison to the US is a good one. I don't think it's an accident that Mexico has elected to make immigration from the US harder at exactly the time that the country is witnessing an enormous increase in the number of US immigrants. This is a simple issue of supply and demand. Costa Rica is a great case study in what happens when a country's infrastructure and services are overwhelmed by waves of retirees and immigrants from the US. I give Mexico full credit for taking a proactive approach, rather than just giving up after they've already been flooded with new residents. I just got here in October, so the process isn't impossible (yet). And again, like Denise said, it's a whole lot easier coming this way than it is going in the other direction.
@@stevenkirby4471 it is exactly what came thru my mind, everyone sees it from it’s own perspective. With new in migration laws reviews, it is expected to get more difficult. For those who don’t know… Mexico is one of the countries have more inmigrants from all over the world.
@@Mr-lw7gy Your agent is wrong, many are Mexican by birth, by blood, by adoption, by relocation etc, but just few ones stay till dead, and stay Mexican beyond the tomb Mostly everyone sees it like a land to conquer, just that!
@@maremagnus "A Mexican can be born anywhere" is not to be taken literally. In Mexico we just have a saying that if a person likes Mexico and is willing to live here then he is just Mexican. He likes the food, the environment, and pays for everything: *Yep, he is Mexican. He just was born outside of Mexico*. It is why we are (mostly) open to any culture coming into the country. Pesqueria in Nuevo León state is an exemple. It is full of South Koreans, but they are not discriminated against (though our sense of humor might come as a little rude not gonna lie). In short, "A Mexican can be born anywhere" does not refer to legal processes, it just refers to people that like the country and want to spend the rest of their lives in it.
Great video, we have lived this exact scenario, In Vancouver Canada we had to prove we had an income of $3400 CDN dollars for TR , 12 hours away in Edmonton it was $2600 CDN, as well we were told just one hour before they had raised the PR to having $450000.00 in Registered Retirement savins, having a million equity in your hiuse meant nothing, could have also got PR if we owned property in excess of 450K USD in Mexico.......was all over the map, paid $300 to a fixer and got it all handled smoothly.
Chris, we are Canadians as well, living in BC. Just wondering, was that $450K in RRSP per person or total as a married couple? Was wondering who you hired for $300 to help you. Many thanks.
@@mikehall4879 Assume not, 450K cdn, it was approx 340k USD....absolute lunacy, we opted for TR for 1 yr, just got our PR and completed everything in MX, we bypassed the remaining 3 yr TR period, all we had to show for PR after the 1 yr of TR was equivelent to $2226 usd for the last 6 months, the system is truly broken, the sooner you get finished with the consulate in Canada the better.
A great video. As I have said many times on this forum, I have no intention of moving to Mexico, being very happy in Portugal, but I love your channel and the way you present topics. Have you been getting lessons from Niel DeGrasse Tyson? Bravo!
@CathyGee I don't know if it is easy but the monetary requirements are low. I came many years ago when it was very easy. Pensioners, retired foreign citizens or other foreigners living off of a recognized stable income, such as movable property, real estate, intellectual property or financial investments may apply for D7 Portuguese Visa. Portuguese legislation provides for a special visa - D7 Visa - that allows foreign citizens, who wish to reside in Portugal as retirees or live on their own income, regardless of age, the entrance into Portugal in order to obtain a residence permit, provided that they can prove to have sufficient income to provide them with means of livelihood. This income can come from pensions, real estate rentals, and investments, among others. You need proof that you have income that allows you to live in Portugal. To be eligible, you must have income or pensions amounting to 12 months: €7.200 for the first adult; €3.600 for the second or more adults; €2.160 per child. You must provide 6 months of bank statements. All of this information is easily available online. Just type D7 Visa Portugal.
Hmmmm. Maybe they don't want us to move there. Maybe we think everyone wants us to move to their country, but the citizens of other countries don't want us to. Just a thought.
I saw a video of a mayor or similar official neat Cancun say openly that he only wanted tourists there who could spend a lot of money in that visit, and just leave. True story.
Love the videos also all the input from everyone, so informative. I truly agree all this is probably a very simple transition but it’s who your talking to , this happen to me in Chicago.. I tried their web site couldn’t get in , I screenshot it and went down there n showed them , the other gal had lil more patience with me , it took 2 weeks n other 2 weeks for the 2nd step 🤦🏻♀️lots of lots of patience … then a bucket of Coronas 🍺
Our residency was approved easily through Hector in San Bernardino consulate. We did buy a place first, and brought in everything the application required.
I got my temporal at the Albuquerque Consulate last summer. At that time it was a minimum of $29,000 a year. I lived in the area, so it was no problem.
I wish you could have been a fly on the wall when I had to go to the Red Cross to take a "Physical" for my Mexican driver's License. THAT would have been a good skit as well! Bahaha.
To be fair, the United States has even more ridiculous requirements and there is no standard, you can literally wait ten years, pay $5,000, get a visa interview with a US consulate and then be told you are rejected, with no recourse for your time and/or money. At least with Mexico you can shop consulates.
Read the paperwork requirements from their website B4 you go. The photograph requirement for the immigration application is not necessarily "preset" at Walgreens, CVS, etc. (Had to hire a Photographer). Bring 6 months of statements from the source of your income. If you printed them from the internet- each page must be notorized. I was not allowed to "come back" later that day to drop off the paperwork. Either you have it or not. For consulate appointments, Calling the Reservation Number was far more easier than their website.
Great video, thanks! I got my permanent resident card a few months ago, and when I was waiting to do canje at the INM office, I was talking with a woman from Los Angeles who was applying for temporary residence because the LA consulate wasn't giving appointments for permanent residence. I applied in NYC, where they did. What you say about consistency is true.
Yep I had to fly from Oregon to Orlando, Florida to even find an office giving appointments 2 years ago. Turned it into a vacation also, but can't believe the distance I had to go to get an appointment
2020/2021 Leamington Ontario, Canada was the lowest, it was under $1000 CAD ($700USD!) per month for temp residency solvency...i was going to fly across the country, because the Vancouver and other consulates were out of whack. Could never get an appointment, that particular consulate was dealing with a scandal of it's own with it's director, and of course with the 'vid, it made it impossible. Too bad, they increased their requirements massively after that ($3,339.00 CAD/ $2491 USD per month), crossing Mexico off the list for me. South East Asia, still looking good!
I had considered retiring in Mexico until I saw the minimum requirements. The one I saw put the required amount at almost $5,000 a month. I am now a resident of Panama which is lower than Ecuador for the minimum.
Yup, happened to me in San Diego, but their issue was a little different. After I made copies of 12 months worth of bank statements showing that I had more than enough, they told me that I would now have to prove where my monthly deposits were actually coming from. This would take another trip, more copies, and they wanted a signed letter from the Veterans Affairs showing it was legit. I honestly think they just like disproving people in San Diego. Next try I used a service, a lady who used to work at the consulate. Sailed right thru that time and went straight to permanent resident! Thanks for all the informative videos Paul!
Rules only apply for those who don't understand the unwritten rules : ) as always my recommendation is find a great lawyer here in Mexico who is well connected with great family members in the government. Same deal in any country in the world. Super fast, super easy but never cheap. Don't go cheap.
Thank you, Paul, for this information. My husband and I had permanent residency, and I lost my card the day before we flew out to the US. My husband still has his, but he made the mistake of not having his passport stamped as a resident. I think we are probably looking at starting all over! Ugh!
Little tip for your husband when he comes back to Mexico. Just fly in to a border town like McAllen, TX and cross the border into Mexico through the International bridge as a pedestrian and nobody will ask him for any documents. Then, he can fly from the local Reynosa airport to any city in Mexico. If the airlines ask for a document, he then can show his permanent residence card. Good luck!
🤔 Don’t think so - crossing the border as a pedestrian should be easy to enter MX again. Then contact your INM office to have your card replaced as a lost one without any storytelling that you left and entered again as not important in your case to have the stolen one replaced I guess 😉 Should work for your husband anyways as already mentioned above.
I was told by an immigration lawyer in Mexico City that even Mcallen went up to $3,200 this year. I don't know how true that is, but he said that even if I go to one of the "cheaper ones" it won't work once I get to Mexico. Has anyone one done financial solvency with a lower number and been approved in Mexico?
Thank you Paul. That was interesting. It's sad that some productive and interesting people who love Mexico are excluded because they don't have enough income.
Yeah thats the same with USA with immigrants. If they don’t have the funds or family or quality for other visa they also can’t get a green card. So everyone everywhere is suffering
@@ayuanabradford3206 US immigration law has always had this stipulation, so that people who come legally won't be a burden to the system, and that's perfectly reasonable. Illegals who use the US emergency rooms have bankrupted two local rural hospitals here BEFORE THE LOCAL CITIZENS EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO USE THEM. 😢
Hi Paul, first, thank you for another great video! That being said, the Mexican government, in this regard smarter than the American one, doesn't want immigrants who barely "make it," people who have to live off $1K or $1,2K social security alone and otherwise don't have a penny to their name. I realize that those people are being excluded now, but for the rest of us, retirees who own a home, have, and I put this on the lower level, $250K in equity and at least $100K in their retirement account, nothing changed, really. If you are single, get $1,2K in SS retirement, and have $50K in your nest egg, you qualify for temporary residency which will turn into permanent residency. My wife and I plan to retire in 5 years. We also only get $2,8K from Uncle Sam per month, but we have probably north of $1M when all is counted in, so we are not worried at all. Started learning Spanish 6 weeks ago and will be fluent by the time we move down there from California.
My wife and I just got our Temporary Residency cards, it was all pretty straight forward except the hours of waiting in consulates/INM. You need to do your research, if you don't it'll be a rough go.
Same with trying to get Italian residency, massive bureaucracy, inconsistency and no chance of getting an appointment at an Italian consulate because they are 3 years backed up.
Paul, I've essentially written off my dream of moving to Mex to retire. Here is the latest financial requirements on Mex Consulate for Cdns wishing to retire in Mex: If you are the retiree: Original and photocopy of proof of investments or bank accounts with an average monthly balance equivalent to $222,622.00 CAD during the last twelve months to your appointment at the consulate, or Original and a photocopy of proof of monthly income from pensions in the amount of $5,566.00 CAD during the past six months to your appointment at the consulate. If I had either of the above I'd move to Spain or Portugal. Love Mexico but these limits are prohibitive for me personally 🤷🏼♀️
I was lucky enough to be 'fast tracked' to gaining my citizenship, because my wife is a Mexican citizen. We've relocated to Morelia, Michoacan almost 2 years ago. We also had no income minimums to deal with at that time.
I sponsored my husband to canada (pricy and long story short), so when the time comes, my processing will also be somewhat facilitated..... Among all the bumps in the road.
I came to Mexico to work and I already had a pension, but I came on a working visa sponsored by the university and I was working half time making 5000 pesos a month and that qualified me and they thought it was a good salary. I have my permanent residency now, but then I moved to Spain where the income requirement is about the same.
Excellent video again Paul, thanks. The system is broken in another way, there are no consulates accepting applications that we can find. We live in Southern CA and have our paper work in order and are ready to make an appointment but can't get one anywhere.There is no phone number, all online and apparently nothing in San Diego or LA although there are embassies in both. Have you heard about this?
Paul, I love watching your videos, you make learning entertaining and I appreciate it much! I have two questions that I hope either you or the other commenters on here can answer. First, I think I know the answer, but want to verify - The monthly requirement is 'per person' and not per couple? Second, we are a few years from becoming permanent residents of Mexico upon retirement. But we have purchased land in Mexico and will be building soon (hopefully). Does already owning property in Mexico change any of the financial requirements for residency? I guess a follow-up question to this is: is it cheaper or wiser to build a house before or after becoming a resident? I appreciate any constructive feedback from any and every one who sees this!
another glitch can be getting a letter from your employer about your job & income. this can be tricky for "digital nomads." explicit approval can be a tricky legal situation
In 1982, I earned a green card to move to and work in the USA from Canada. Do you (Americans) know how HARD that is? I know the immigration process to MX is inconsistent. I came in on a temporary and after two years, applied for and got permanent residency. Here is the HUGE difference to gaining residency status in the US and Mexico (probably Canada, too). Here, THERE IS NO POLICE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED. It's not a problem for me because I have no background on the wrong side of the law. You are also correct: it differs from consulate to consulate. I received mine from the consulate arm of the MX embassy in Ottawa. They were unbelievably wonderful. There was one area where I needed to verify income and it depended on an incoming statement. They said, 'bring that in and that will be good." I loath the word 'retired' but I think that is what I am. I love this country and I love your videos because they are conversational (vs huckster) and you have less hair than I do.
Of course, one can avoid the financial requirements altogether by finding a work sponsor and getting a temporary residency visa with a work permit. Many of us have done so, especially younger folk not ready to retire.
Thank you! Liked your skit!! can you answer this once you’ve completed a for your temp residency and apply for permanent residency, do you have to show financial records all over again?
I lucked out in that I got temporary residency using the family reunification as my husband is a Mexican citizen. Was temporary for 2 years and then got permanent. Didn't have to show any income qualification.
Thanks for the video - i always appreciate your work. But you missed the best part:, Aside from a few Consulates, the income requirekents for 2023 went up hugely again. Do i really have to have an income equivalent to a 10 year Mexican surgeon to meet the requirements? It would sure seem to. Oh, btw: i live in ABQ and our Consulate (who doesn't answer the ohine ir emails, ever) , doesnt process residency visas. - perhaps in ‘Consulate Generals’ do. Appreciate you guys !
Hi Sr. Qroo, Yes, i have to agree - it is a confusing process! I have engaged an immigration service to get my wife and i through the maze, and we're working on it. I understand the $3,400 monthly income requirement, and the additional $1,040 income requirement for dependents. What surprised me is that the requirement has to be met by ONE person. My wife and i combined make $5,000 per month but neither of us makes $4,440 (that's the $3,400 + $1,040) by our self. So we're being told "sorry, not enough income". Yikes!
I am living in Santa Fe, ciudad de México dating someone here. My partner told me that a lot of these changes recently, like them randomly not giving the 180 days tourist visa on entry automatically, are primarily due to the current president AMLO who has militarized even the immigration dept and basically is responsible for creating all of this immigration mess with complete inconsistencies. To further complicate things the US has indeed put more pressure on Mexico to regulate their immigration policies, BUT as Paul has pointed out in many videos, things just are not operating normally right now. Just FYI from my partner's perspective. You can also Google about it in the news.
Thank you so much for the invaluable information you provide. Hubby & I are planning our retirement this year in Mexico. Can't wait to start our best life!!
Excellent video as always. Lucky me and my wife got our residency cards a few years ago before it got extra confusing (thanks to your videos). We are having a problem tho with our RFC. WE made our appointment and went there with all the paperwork listed on the website. The website listed the wrong address and after walking for hours we found the SAT office only to be told we also needed our tax number from the states? This is "new" they said. Are they referring to our SS #? We left totally annoyed and have yet to get into the "virtual" line again. Any help would be great. We live in the Yuc full time now. "Destination Known" Long time subscriber :)
I got my RFC easily and quickly with the assistance of a Mexican friend who reached out to his accountant who made the appointment for me. I had my RFC within the first month of living here. Try using an accountant to make your appointment. Mine even waited outside for the 2 hours of the process just in case I needed him. I paid him $500 pesos. That was it!
We went to Albuquerque NM consulate, the woman told me $4800 per month just for me, and $800 for each of my dependents. We made an appointment at McAllen Texas consulate, $2600 a month for me, and I was able to sponsor both my dependents on my income.
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Now you want to tell Mexico how to run thier system.
To many U S people is dangerous to latin countries.
Look what happened to Panama.
So I have gone through this process in Brazil, Ecuador and Mexico, and honestly, it’s much easier in Mexico than in the other countries - in spite of these inconsistencies.
Yes!
Oh my God 😦
Hey Paul, I am in Mexico now finishing up the residency process. I am really grateful for all the information you have provided. I would have been lost if I didnt find your channel. It really helped me through this process.
Also I emailed a few consulates and they are all different with the requirements and if they were even taking appointments for residency for the year (I guess they have a max of how many one consulate can issue?). I ended up going with the Indy Consulate. I actually like what they did to make sure I would qualify by having me sending them via email all the required paperwork. They reviewed the application before getting an appointment. We went back and forth a little bit with some additional documents that they needed. When they were satisfied with all the documents I was able to get an appointment.
**Side note: I had requested a Permanent Residency because I heard from one of your videos "why not ask" so I did and I qualified with the amount I make. I am a digital nomad btw
On arrival at the Indy Consulate the process went pretty smooth. I just made copies before hand of the documents that we already reviewed, had my picture taken and got my sticker for my passport.
I decided to finish the residency process in an INM office that may not be so busy. From the google maps reviews of Cancun and Playa del Carmen INM offices the reviewers stated difficulties at each of these offices. I can only imagine that these offices are overwhelmed and have a lot of applicants that go there.
I decided to go to Cozumel and I am very happy I did. There are no lines in that office and you don’t need to get an appointment. You show up and ask what information and paperwork the office needs. They give you a little paper with what they want. The paperwork is pretty much what you have in your videos. The only issue was getting a proof of address, I asked my AirBNB host for help and they were able to give me a electric bill. Very kind people.
Thank you so much for your help my friend, it has made the process a lot more doable.
Hi Matthew, did you have to go back more than once in Cozumel or you were able to finish up in one day, you also mentioned a list ? Did you receive your card in that office visit ?
The Indy process you mentioned, in Mexican organization terms, was a miracle! Lucky you. I am speechless.
Good video. I finally got my permeant residency a few months ago. The hardest thing was getting an appointment at a Mexican consulate. Orlando was impossible. The central system was useless. I tried using an immigration attorney and wasted hundreds of dollars with no success. A Mexican friend helped me get an appointment at the Miami consulate - That was a very smooth process. I am very happy living almost full time in Oaxaca!
May I ask how good is the internet service in oaxaca as well when it comes with safety, planning to move to Oaxacan coast.
So Terrible
@@felixkazteyanoz it's extremely safe. The internet depends on what you're willing to pay. No different than the U.S.
I just converted my temporary residency to permanent earlier this month. So many things can go wrong, and every consulate and INM office is different from the next one. Am now breathing easier and will be deciding if my next step will be citizenship. I hate my fideicomiso!
I'm glad to hear this cause I too would like to go old Mexico. Just to see the country and the life style. Traditional ways
This is 1000% true. This is the area of moving to Mexico that requires constant updates and knowing what's going on a daily basis.
This is so true. I wanted to retire in Mexico but with the 2023 changes, I unfortunately found out the hard way. Each Embassy is dirrerent by U.S. State. Boy what a dissapointment. Well unfortunately I do not qualify. So down the tube go my plans. Thanks for telling the truth and explaining this. Too many You-Tubers have no idea what they are talking about.
See my comment above.
See my comment above.
None of your videos are boring...the amount of valuable information you share with us is so helpful and is making my transition to Mexico so much easier. Thank you! The cards you're selling on Etsy are also brilliant. If you're looking for an idea for a video, I'm going to apply for my 3 year extension on my temp visa which, when completed, will become permanent. Would love to learn that process.
I just did mine in September. Very easy. They gave me the option of paying for 1 year and resubmitting paperwork or paying more and extending it for 3 years with no U.S. financials. Made no sense to me, but obviously I paid, filled out MX paperwork, then went in for more photos and fingerprints, and my card arrived in a couple weeks. All done in Mexico. No fuss. My 3 yr. fee was approx. $738 USD. Just my experience, of course.
@@lannettephipps7754 That's great. Hope mine works out as well.
Hey Paul, you know the material is kind of dry, but you make it enjoyable. Love your style & humour as always. Always looking forward to another "recording" by you & Linda too! Gratitude!
Well done. Thanks Paul.
Please note that most US based Mexican Consulates will not accept applications from people who live out of state. You must be a resident of the state in which you apply and be able to prove it. I became a permanent resident of Mexico last year and this was the rule. Lots of Californians used to come apply in my state because it was so much cheaper. That ended last year. I am a member of the Mexican Relocation Guide group and I highlhy recommend it if you are either planning on moving to Mexico or, like me, you just spend part of the year there. Along with Qroo & LInda's channel, you will save yourself mucho grief!
I live in Virginia, and got approved for permanent residency at a NC Mexican consulate office in 2022.
is this group on Facebook? Thx!
Great info Paul & Linda, thanks.
Even with the income issues being inconsistent the overall process is simple compared to other countries in Latin America. I have residency in Guatemala as well - every single document had to be authenticated and translated and they required a police certificate as well. And I cannot leave the country for more than 365 days. Residency cards need to be renewed every 10 years. Most of the foreigners I meet in Guatemala do not even bother. They (or their passport) just travel every 90 days. I had residency in Nicaragua in the past - if you obtain it through marriage and do not have children you immediately lose it upon divorce regardless of how long you have been there. Mexico has been so much easier
Similar to canada.
Mex is easier, at the same time, not!
Hard to navigate through all the paperwork and laws, which is turned into further nightmare when they are so inconsistent and employee are left to themselves figuring the new systems all the time....
Great info as usual!
Pues con todo y eso, veo miles de extranjeros viviendo en la Ciudad de México, cómo nunca, es realmente impresionante, y no parecen preocupados por tener su residencia.
Thank you! You always do a great job of breaking the info down so it’s easy to understand. Even when the laws/rules are confusing.
I really love your videos. So well researched. Best I’ve seen ever since watching CZcams now for 5 years now
The last few people I helped to get residency status went through the "regularización" process, which was put into place during covid. Travel was shut down so anyone who exceeded their 6 months as a tourist was automatically allowed to apply for and receive residency. No proof of financial status required - just having been here 6 months and wanting to stay longer was all that was required. I have not checked lately if they are still doing this. Requirements were: be here as a tourist for 6 months plus one day. When our friend went through this in April, everyone in the INM office was doing the same thing. Application cost was the same whether you had all your paperwork from the Mexican consulate, or you had simply overstayed your tourist welcome.
HI! thats awesome, im happy you through it and finally have your residence. can you please share the link to apply after staying for 6 months as a tourist
Thanks for the video Qroo Paul as always quite informative 👍
Thanks for watching!
great work Paul!
Good and true information. Also some consulates require signed and stamped statements and some don't. I went to McAllen TX and it was great. Total 30 minutes start to finish. Very good people to work with. I go to Queretaro the 23rd to complete the process.
@jpsmusicandmore5457
Did McAllen require your financials be signed? My brokerage company will NOT sign anything.
@@terrymolness2118 No they didn't Houston said they had to that is why I drove to McAllen. I had plenty of assets but could not get them signed sither. So down to McAllen I went.
@@jpsmusicandmore5457 looks like a trip to McAllen is in my near future! Thank you for the information!
@@jpsmusicandmore5457
Was there anything they required that you were not aware of before your appt?
Did you need copies of your financials or just the originals? I will be using brokerage statements and each month is numerous pages long due to spacing and partial printed pages. Do they just need the balance information pages and not the detail of every single transaction throughout the year?
@@terrymolness2118 I brought copies. They were of my bank statements. IRA's 401K etc... Anything that was a financial asset. They only needed one IRA from Lincoln financial. it was a book. All 12 months many pages each. They took only the top page each and never looked at anything else. They asked what I wanted and I said permanent since I know I had more than enough. I did not have any originals all copies all my statements come in emails or online. Houston said they wanted stamped and signed so I went to McAllen. The 2 people I met with a young guy and girl were super nice and friendly. 30 minutes start to finish in my car heading home. Take all the pages...
Thank you for explaining this so well. It’s much appreciated.
Thanks for watching. :)
@@qroo THANK YOU Paul...in 09:00 minutes, you answered the
question I've been asking for MANY years...BUT...no-one at INM would answer.
I sincerely appreciate ALL the valuable information your videos provide.
Best regards,
Ben
Thanks for your educational gems.
Thanks Paul!
I always learn so much from him!
Bottom line...current MX authorities (AMLO government + number of state governors) are increasingly anti-immigration (especially from the Western hemisphere). You are welcomed here as a tourist/visitor. The process described by Mr. Paul has been intentionally implemented to deter mass migration.
Easier to marry a national. No Financials required. 2 years of temporary and one gets Permanente. It is the law.
For all the 55 years I've been coming to MX, I've learned that there's a love-hate attitude from Mexico to Americans. It's a very odd thing. One of Mexico's oddities.
Many Mexicans think that most gringos are millionaires, with money trees in the back yard. So if they take money from you, they need it more than you, and you can always replace it from your money tree in the back yard.
It's a SURVIVAL CULTURE, where many times, people worry if they can put dinner on the table THAT NIGHT. That will motivate much of their decisions.
Mexicans voted 11 TIMES for Santa Anna for President of MX, no matter how harsh or corrupt he might be. A real head-scratcher.
If you try to figure it all out, you'll go nuts! The culture is SO different from ours, in so many ways. I recommend a book to help in your decision-making, especially if you want to immigrate. www.amazon.com/Manana-Forever-Jorge-G-Castañeda-ebook/dp/B004G8PIYU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1685322597&refinements=p_27%3AJorge+G.+Castañeda&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=Jorge+G.+Castañeda.
And just when you think you understand it all, it will change on a dime! So be prepared for an adventure, LOL. You're not in Kansas anymore!
They want your money, they just don't want YOU!
Thanks again Paul! Also, the skit is hilarious, but accurate!😅
I did not acquire my temporary residency at a Mexican consulate in the U.S. but rather at the Institute of National Migration here in Querétaro. Granted, I am married to a Mexican citizen (I am an American citizen). I didn’t have to give any - zilch - financial information (I am a retired teacher from Dallas) … I guess they assumed my husband would “vouch” for me. :-) :-)
Thanks for heads up
Happy to help.
Thanks for the awesome content. The skit was really funny!!! LOL
Great Video!!
Another helpful video 👍
Just got temporary visa for Mexico here in Australia, the only difficult bit was having to fly to Canberra(only embassy here) to get it processed... it took less than 2hrs complete...
Very useful video.
Once you’ve lived in México for a while, you learn to never ask why. I’ve seen people comparing consulates on other sites, such as Facebook. Consulate shopping as you say! Some seem far more stringent than others.
Gracias amigo!
I have been trying to make an appointment for temporary residency at the Mexican consulate for many months . I finally got an appointment for January 5th . The monthly income requirement at my local consulate was $2,500 , which i qualified for . Within 1 minute at my appointment at the Mexican Consulate they tell me that my monthly income does not qualify for temporary residency now , Since they raised the minimum monthly requirement to $3 ,150 overnight on January 1st .
That is a 25% Increase at once , that is a big increase .
Now I do - not qualify for temporary residency .
So sorry to hear that. I am still hopeful that they will start switshing over to UMA because that limit is very high, especially considering average salaries in Mexico.
How disappointing! Could you go back (if it's close), explain, and ask them if they have permission to use the UMA? They might have some flexibility now. It would likely involve a personal visit, these thing are best done in person.
On point. Read some details from a well-informed person, just bad stuff. Thanks for sharing.
LOVED your skit! You may have missed your calling...u made me LOL!
Great information...McAllen TX here I come..thanks again
Welcome!
Thanks Paul
I believe Mexico is purposefully making the process more difficult. I hear people saying all the time that the consulates are overwhelmed because they are understaffed. It would be an easy fix to add more staff but clearly they don’t want to. They could also choose to use the UMA, the lower criteria for financial solvency. But they choose not to. I am a permanent resident and on the day of my appointment I was the only foreigner there. Mostly they were processing Mexican citizens for various things. My visa was even ready ahead of schedule that day. The ladies were laughing and chit-chatting and seemed quite relaxed behind the counter. They didn’t seem overwhelmed to me. I will go as far as to say I think they are picking and choosing who they want to process That’s my two cents. Thanks again for another great video!
Yeah I don't want to judge but it seems this way....
It’s because more Americans want to live in Mexico. That’s why… Before no american did and thats why it was lower..
Thank you for the explanation of the difference in UMA and MW, AND for explaining another one of the inconsistencies.
Doesn't make sense, but........
Paul
You’re the man !
Thanks for explaining.
Thanks for watching. :)
I'm so happy I found your channel man. It's so insightful and invaluable for my planning. This one caught my eye because I nearly make the economic solvency requirements but not all the way, the requirements in my country for the single consulate we have are ridiculous. If I had done it like two years ago I might have had a better shot but back then I was in a far worse financial situation so it wasn't an option. I feel a bit defeated lol, but I refuse to give up. Any words of advice to keep me in the fight?
Love it , so true!
Grateful to have our permanent resident cards. And although this is a serious and frustrating situation for people trying to become residents. It's was helpful and hysterical. Loved the conversation between each government entity. 🤣 great job.
Same, we did permanent in 2020, glad it’s behind us!
Hey Paul
Glad I got my permanent residency many years ago after 1 year temporary. It was a lot cheaper back then and easier.
It was easier back in the day. :)
It’s because back than no Americans wanted to go to Mexico. Now it seem like everyone want to go..
The lack of standardization is like a pre-test to find out if you can navigate governmental processes. But honestly, they make it so easy on us compared to people trying to go to the US. The hoops are a small price to pay for being able to live here.
That point about the comparison to the US is a good one. I don't think it's an accident that Mexico has elected to make immigration from the US harder at exactly the time that the country is witnessing an enormous increase in the number of US immigrants. This is a simple issue of supply and demand. Costa Rica is a great case study in what happens when a country's infrastructure and services are overwhelmed by waves of retirees and immigrants from the US. I give Mexico full credit for taking a proactive approach, rather than just giving up after they've already been flooded with new residents. I just got here in October, so the process isn't impossible (yet). And again, like Denise said, it's a whole lot easier coming this way than it is going in the other direction.
@@stevenkirby4471 it is exactly what came thru my mind, everyone sees it from it’s own perspective. With new in migration laws reviews, it is expected to get more difficult. For those who don’t know… Mexico is one of the countries have more inmigrants from all over the world.
Our agent told me that immigration is a right and then quickly followed up with a saying, “a Mexican can be born anywhere”
@@Mr-lw7gy
Your agent is wrong, many are Mexican by birth, by blood, by adoption, by relocation etc, but just few ones stay till dead, and stay Mexican beyond the tomb
Mostly everyone sees it like a land to conquer, just that!
@@maremagnus "A Mexican can be born anywhere" is not to be taken literally. In Mexico we just have a saying that if a person likes Mexico and is willing to live here then he is just Mexican. He likes the food, the environment, and pays for everything: *Yep, he is Mexican. He just was born outside of Mexico*. It is why we are (mostly) open to any culture coming into the country. Pesqueria in Nuevo León state is an exemple. It is full of South Koreans, but they are not discriminated against (though our sense of humor might come as a little rude not gonna lie). In short, "A Mexican can be born anywhere" does not refer to legal processes, it just refers to people that like the country and want to spend the rest of their lives in it.
If you think that’s frustrating, imagine how Mexicans trying to move to America feel, talk about a purposefully difficult and LOOOONG process.
Great video, we have lived this exact scenario, In Vancouver Canada we had to prove we had an income of $3400 CDN dollars for TR , 12 hours away in Edmonton it was $2600 CDN, as well we were told just one hour before they had raised the PR to having $450000.00 in Registered Retirement savins, having a million equity in your hiuse meant nothing, could have also got PR if we owned property in excess of 450K USD in Mexico.......was all over the map, paid $300 to a fixer and got it all handled smoothly.
Chris, we are Canadians as well, living in BC. Just wondering, was that $450K in RRSP per person or total as a married couple? Was wondering who you hired for $300 to help you. Many thanks.
@@mikehall4879 Per person, I am in the Baja in La Paz, ner name is Blanca Corral
@@MrJonevegas thank you! Ps. I’m assuming it’s $450,000 Mx Pesos and not CADas the average net savings for 2021 per Canadian is $9,972 CAD
@@mikehall4879 Assume not, 450K cdn, it was approx 340k USD....absolute lunacy, we opted for TR for 1 yr, just got our PR and completed everything in MX, we bypassed the remaining 3 yr TR period, all we had to show for PR after the 1 yr of TR was equivelent to $2226 usd for the last 6 months, the system is truly broken, the sooner you get finished with the consulate in Canada the better.
@@MrJonevegas WOWZERS! That’s crazy but not a surprise. Thanks for the very helpful info Chris. Appreciate it. Cheers.
Yes indeed Fascinating
A great video. As I have said many times on this forum, I have no intention of moving to Mexico, being very happy in Portugal, but I love your channel and the way you present topics. Have you been getting lessons from Niel DeGrasse Tyson? Bravo!
@CathyGee I don't know if it is easy but the monetary requirements are low. I came many years ago when it was very easy. Pensioners, retired foreign citizens or other foreigners living off of a recognized stable income, such as movable property, real estate, intellectual property or financial investments may apply for D7 Portuguese Visa.
Portuguese legislation provides for a special visa - D7 Visa - that allows foreign citizens, who wish to reside in Portugal as retirees or live on their own income, regardless of age, the entrance into Portugal in order to obtain a residence permit, provided that they can prove to have sufficient income to provide them with means of livelihood. This income can come from pensions, real estate rentals, and investments, among others. You need proof that you have income that allows you to live in Portugal. To be eligible, you must have income or pensions amounting to 12 months: €7.200 for the first adult; €3.600 for the second or more adults; €2.160 per child. You must provide 6 months of bank statements. All of this information is easily available online. Just type D7 Visa Portugal.
"Makes no damn sense!" 🤣🤣🤣 Welcome to Mexico!
Thanks for explaining! I just told people “welcome to Mexico. Get used to it.”
Hmmmm. Maybe they don't want us to move there. Maybe we think everyone wants us to move to their country, but the citizens of other countries don't want us to. Just a thought.
I saw a video of a mayor or similar official neat Cancun say openly that he only wanted tourists there who could spend a lot of money in that visit, and just leave. True story.
Love the videos also all the input from everyone, so informative. I truly agree all this is probably a very simple transition but it’s who your talking to , this happen to me in Chicago.. I tried their web site couldn’t get in , I screenshot it and went down there n showed them , the other gal had lil more patience with me , it took 2 weeks n other 2 weeks for the 2nd step 🤦🏻♀️lots of lots of patience … then a bucket of Coronas 🍺
Lol, the bucket of Coronas does help.
Our residency was approved easily through Hector in San Bernardino consulate. We did buy a place first, and brought in everything the application required.
Thanks
Thanks!
Thank you so much, Mary. :)
lot of fun to ear you on this and so true, better to 😂 at it
Welcome to Mexico Mr. :) If you don't like it you can always look somewhere else
I promise I will like your videos about Mexico
Ah man!
I found this channel ... but I subscribed and stayed.
I got my temporal at the Albuquerque Consulate last summer. At that time it was a minimum of $29,000 a year. I lived in the area, so it was no problem.
I wish you could have been a fly on the wall when I had to go to the Red Cross to take a "Physical" for my Mexican driver's License. THAT would have been a good skit as well! Bahaha.
Now I want to hear more about that! lol
To be fair, the United States has even more ridiculous requirements and there is no standard, you can literally wait ten years, pay $5,000, get a visa interview with a US consulate and then be told you are rejected, with no recourse for your time and/or money. At least with Mexico you can shop consulates.
@@DestinationDarryl how about the pot calling the kettle black? 😂
The website link I looked at in Canada has $4500.00 min. Monthly income, so yes different everywhere.
Read the paperwork requirements from their website B4 you go. The photograph requirement for the immigration application is not necessarily "preset" at Walgreens, CVS, etc. (Had to hire a Photographer). Bring 6 months of statements from the source of your income. If you printed them from the internet- each page must be notorized. I was not allowed to "come back" later that day to drop off the paperwork. Either you have it or not. For consulate appointments, Calling the Reservation Number was far more easier than their website.
Great video, thanks! I got my permanent resident card a few months ago, and when I was waiting to do canje at the INM office, I was talking with a woman from Los Angeles who was applying for temporary residence because the LA consulate wasn't giving appointments for permanent residence. I applied in NYC, where they did. What you say about consistency is true.
Yep I had to fly from Oregon to Orlando, Florida to even find an office giving appointments 2 years ago. Turned it into a vacation also, but can't believe the distance I had to go to get an appointment
2020/2021 Leamington Ontario, Canada was the lowest, it was under $1000 CAD ($700USD!) per month for temp residency solvency...i was going to fly across the country, because the Vancouver and other consulates were out of whack. Could never get an appointment, that particular consulate was dealing with a scandal of it's own with it's director, and of course with the 'vid, it made it impossible. Too bad, they increased their requirements massively after that ($3,339.00 CAD/ $2491 USD per month), crossing Mexico off the list for me. South East Asia, still looking good!
I had considered retiring in Mexico until I saw the minimum requirements. The one I saw put the required amount at almost $5,000 a month. I am now a resident of Panama which is lower than Ecuador for the minimum.
It's $5k for immediate permanent residence. Its $3500k for temporary residence which 4 years later becomes permanent residence.
Yup, happened to me in San Diego, but their issue was a little different. After I made copies of 12 months worth of bank statements showing that I had more than enough, they told me that I would now have to prove where my monthly deposits were actually coming from. This would take another trip, more copies, and they wanted a signed letter from the Veterans Affairs showing it was legit. I honestly think they just like disproving people in San Diego.
Next try I used a service, a lady who used to work at the consulate. Sailed right thru that time and went straight to permanent resident! Thanks for all the informative videos Paul!
How did you even book an appointment in San Diego? On the website it appears that they don't do residency requirement appointments.
Talk about baiting a hook...you know all of us who will dealing with the SD office would like to know how to contact the person you used. ;-)
Laura Dzubin, would you let me know the name of the former consulate person that helped you in San Diego?
Hi Laura! I would appreciate the contact info of the service you used to get your Mexican visa.
Rules only apply for those who don't understand the unwritten rules : ) as always my recommendation is find a great lawyer here in Mexico who is well connected with great family members in the government. Same deal in any country in the world. Super fast, super easy but never cheap. Don't go cheap.
Thank you, Paul, for this information. My husband and I had permanent residency, and I lost my card the day before we flew out to the US. My husband still has his, but he made the mistake of not having his passport stamped as a resident. I think we are probably looking at starting all over! Ugh!
We lived in the Lake Chapala area for two years and really enjoyed it. Family issues and health caused us to come back to the US.
Little tip for your husband when he comes back to Mexico. Just fly in to a border town like McAllen, TX and cross the border into Mexico through the International bridge as a pedestrian and nobody will ask him for any documents. Then, he can fly from the local Reynosa airport to any city in Mexico. If the airlines ask for a document, he then can show his permanent residence card. Good luck!
🤔 Don’t think so - crossing the border as a pedestrian should be easy to enter MX again. Then contact your INM office to have your card replaced as a lost one without any storytelling that you left and entered again as not important in your case to have the stolen one replaced I guess 😉 Should work for your husband anyways as already mentioned above.
I was told by an immigration lawyer in Mexico City that even Mcallen went up to $3,200 this year. I don't know how true that is, but he said that even if I go to one of the "cheaper ones" it won't work once I get to Mexico. Has anyone one done financial solvency with a lower number and been approved in Mexico?
Thank you Paul. That was interesting. It's sad that some productive and interesting people who love Mexico are excluded because they don't have enough income.
Yeah thats the same with USA with immigrants. If they don’t have the funds or family or quality for other visa they also can’t get a green card. So everyone everywhere is suffering
Boohoo
@@ayuanabradford3206 US immigration law has always had this stipulation, so that people who come legally won't be a burden to the system, and that's perfectly reasonable.
Illegals who use the US emergency rooms have bankrupted two local rural hospitals here BEFORE THE LOCAL CITIZENS EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO USE THEM. 😢
Hi Paul,
first, thank you for another great video!
That being said, the Mexican government, in this regard smarter than the American one, doesn't want immigrants who barely "make it," people who have to live off $1K or $1,2K social security alone and otherwise don't have a penny to their name. I realize that those people are being excluded now, but for the rest of us, retirees who own a home, have, and I put this on the lower level, $250K in equity and at least $100K in their retirement account, nothing changed, really.
If you are single, get $1,2K in SS retirement, and have $50K in your nest egg, you qualify for temporary residency which will turn into permanent residency.
My wife and I plan to retire in 5 years. We also only get $2,8K from Uncle Sam per month, but we have probably north of $1M when all is counted in, so we are not worried at all. Started learning Spanish 6 weeks ago and will be fluent by the time we move down there from California.
Seattle office it's currently $3,500 per month for a temp; $5,500 for perm.
My wife and I just got our Temporary Residency cards, it was all pretty straight forward except the hours of waiting in consulates/INM. You need to do your research, if you don't it'll be a rough go.
Same with trying to get Italian residency, massive bureaucracy, inconsistency and no chance of getting an appointment at an Italian consulate because they are 3 years backed up.
Paul, I've essentially written off my dream of moving to Mex to retire. Here is the latest financial requirements on Mex Consulate for Cdns wishing to retire in Mex: If you are the retiree:
Original and photocopy of proof of investments or bank accounts with an average monthly balance equivalent to $222,622.00 CAD during the last twelve months to your appointment at the consulate, or
Original and a photocopy of proof of monthly income from pensions in the amount of $5,566.00 CAD during the past six months to your appointment at the consulate. If I had either of the above I'd move to Spain or Portugal. Love Mexico but these limits are prohibitive for me personally 🤷🏼♀️
Those are ridicuously high. Hopefully the consulates will adopt the UMA standard this year and correct this problem.
I was lucky enough to be 'fast tracked' to gaining my citizenship, because my wife is a Mexican citizen. We've relocated to Morelia, Michoacan almost 2 years ago. We also had no income minimums to deal with at that time.
I sponsored my husband to canada (pricy and long story short), so when the time comes, my processing will also be somewhat facilitated.....
Among all the bumps in the road.
I came to Mexico to work and I already had a pension, but I came on a working visa sponsored by the university and I was working half time making 5000 pesos a month and that qualified me and they thought it was a good salary. I have my permanent residency now, but then I moved to Spain where the income requirement is about the same.
Excellent video again Paul, thanks.
The system is broken in another way, there are no consulates accepting applications that we can find. We live in Southern CA and have our paper work in order and are ready to make an appointment but can't get one anywhere.There is no phone number, all online and apparently nothing in San Diego or LA although there are embassies in both. Have you heard about this?
Shop around. May be worth travelling out of state.
Paul, I love watching your videos, you make learning entertaining and I appreciate it much! I have two questions that I hope either you or the other commenters on here can answer.
First, I think I know the answer, but want to verify - The monthly requirement is 'per person' and not per couple?
Second, we are a few years from becoming permanent residents of Mexico upon retirement. But we have purchased land in Mexico and will be building soon (hopefully). Does already owning property in Mexico change any of the financial requirements for residency? I guess a follow-up question to this is: is it cheaper or wiser to build a house before or after becoming a resident?
I appreciate any constructive feedback from any and every one who sees this!
I'm married to Mexican and would really appreciate a video on what the differences on residency would be.
Thanks
Check out his next video and read the comments.
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another glitch can be getting a letter from your employer about your job & income. this can be tricky for "digital nomads." explicit approval can be a tricky legal situation
In 1982, I earned a green card to move to and work in the USA from Canada. Do you (Americans) know how HARD that is? I know the immigration process to MX is inconsistent. I came in on a temporary and after two years, applied for and got permanent residency. Here is the HUGE difference to gaining residency status in the US and Mexico (probably Canada, too). Here, THERE IS NO POLICE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED. It's not a problem for me because I have no background on the wrong side of the law. You are also correct: it differs from consulate to consulate. I received mine from the consulate arm of the MX embassy in Ottawa. They were unbelievably wonderful. There was one area where I needed to verify income and it depended on an incoming statement. They said, 'bring that in and that will be good." I loath the word 'retired' but I think that is what I am. I love this country and I love your videos because they are conversational (vs huckster) and you have less hair than I do.
If you think it is difficult, try to get your residence in the US.
Of course, one can avoid the financial requirements altogether by finding a work sponsor and getting a temporary residency visa with a work permit. Many of us have done so, especially younger folk not ready to retire.
Thank you! Liked your skit!! can you answer this once you’ve completed a for your temp residency and apply for permanent residency, do you have to show financial records all over again?
The transition from temporary to permanent is easy and no financials are required. I have a video planned to show you how to do it yourself.
“Consistently inconsistent and unnecessarily arduous” sounds like the U.S. government.
I lucked out in that I got temporary residency using the family reunification as my husband is a Mexican citizen. Was temporary for 2 years and then got permanent. Didn't have to show any income qualification.
Yes, that is another track to residency. Congrats on getting it done. :)
Thanks for the video - i always appreciate your work.
But you missed the best part:, Aside from a few Consulates, the income requirekents for 2023 went up hugely again. Do i really have to have an income equivalent to a 10 year Mexican surgeon to meet the requirements? It would sure seem to.
Oh, btw: i live in ABQ and our Consulate (who doesn't answer the ohine ir emails, ever) , doesnt process residency visas. - perhaps in ‘Consulate Generals’ do.
Appreciate you guys !
Hi Sr. Qroo, Yes, i have to agree - it is a confusing process!
I have engaged an immigration service to get my wife and i through the maze, and we're working on it.
I understand the $3,400 monthly income requirement, and the additional $1,040 income requirement for dependents. What surprised me is that the requirement has to be met by ONE person. My wife and i combined make $5,000 per month but neither of us makes $4,440 (that's the $3,400 + $1,040) by our self. So we're being told "sorry, not enough income".
Yikes!
If it isn’t too much I would get a second opinion. Not all immigration services are equal…
I am living in Santa Fe, ciudad de México dating someone here. My partner told me that a lot of these changes recently, like them randomly not giving the 180 days tourist visa on entry automatically, are primarily due to the current president AMLO who has militarized even the immigration dept and basically is responsible for creating all of this immigration mess with complete inconsistencies. To further complicate things the US has indeed put more pressure on Mexico to regulate their immigration policies, BUT as Paul has pointed out in many videos, things just are not operating normally right now. Just FYI from my partner's perspective. You can also Google about it in the news.
Your partner is an anti AMLO person, do not believe just any BS regurgitated by anybody.
Thank you so much for the invaluable information you provide. Hubby & I are planning our retirement this year in Mexico. Can't wait to start our best life!!
Don't
They don't want you there permanently.
Have lived in Mexico for 10 years. The government of Mexico is broken!
Excellent video as always. Lucky me and my wife got our residency cards a few years ago before it got extra confusing (thanks to your videos). We are having a problem tho with our RFC. WE made our appointment and went there with all the paperwork listed on the website. The website listed the wrong address and after walking for hours we found the SAT office only to be told we also needed our tax number from the states? This is "new" they said. Are they referring to our SS #? We left totally annoyed and have yet to get into the "virtual" line again. Any help would be great. We live in the Yuc full time now.
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Sadly, exactly what you can expect when dealing with their "system(s)".....
I got my RFC easily and quickly with the assistance of a Mexican friend who reached out to his accountant who made the appointment for me. I had my RFC within the first month of living here. Try using an accountant to make your appointment. Mine even waited outside for the 2 hours of the process just in case I needed him. I paid him $500 pesos. That was it!
We went to Albuquerque NM consulate, the woman told me $4800 per month just for me, and $800 for each of my dependents. We made an appointment at McAllen Texas consulate, $2600 a month for me, and I was able to sponsor both my dependents on my income.
Thanks for sharing that info.