Radrover Crankset Upgrade - 53 Tooth
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Replacing the front chainring on my Radrover / Citizencycle bike, going from 42 tooth to 53 tooth. will it make a big difference?
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I also went with a 11t - 34t freewheel in the rear, helped out a lot.
Raise the saddle to the proper height for your stature, up to the same level you would for a non e-bike. You should be on your toes (not tip toes) when seated and standing stationary. This will give you much more pedaling power.
I love quick and easy. Great upgrade and many of use RAD riders & others really appreciate this very much. Danke Citizen Cycle. 👏🏼💯
Sweet little ,super inexpensive upgrade ,
I can see where it would come in handy especially going down hill too and especially if one wanted to upgrade their free wheel too . Even though one may need to bump up the assist level going up hill but I bet you could pick up a decent amount of speed going down hill .
Thanks for taking the time to make these vids bud !
Thanks for the work you do most of us be on the fence about doing.
I definitely like having the extra feeling in the pedals and I like documenting my work for others to see 😁
Wow...I was worried about having to get a longer chain....or add links. Looks like you didn't have to. Thx for info....
Pretty sweet idea man!
Hey sir I would just like to say thank you I bought a new crank for my G-Force t42 bike cuz evidently in shipping they bent the one on it when I received the bike I put the same crank you put on yours and also thank you for the advice on the mirrors they work great and there was absolutely no failure on my e-bike nothing rubbed or nothing hit anything
CZcams has plenty of DIY videos on bike repair. Did you check it out sometime very informative. Keep rolling the videos brother. Thank you
Thank you so much for this video, When I got my New bafang rear motor upgrade the cassette came with a taller gear in the back which I swapped the original cassette to the new bafang motor because I ran out of pedal instantly, but I feel like I can still use more gearing…. it helped my peddleing, but it’s still not enough I’ve been wondering about the swap for a long time it looks to me like the motor and controler might not let us go much faster even with the gearing, great review thank you so much for the information
Something I need to try myself
Mine is a 750W Dual Motor and makes the steepest of uphills fun (35% gradient no problems)
Great demo buddy 👍
Working on upgrading the gearing to my Magicycle. Upgrading the front chain ring with a 58 tooth and the rear cassette with a 34/12 tooth. I'll need a larger chain though.
I need to get around to wrenching my parts on mine too - I went with a 34/11 x 52t, and a new Shimano chain.
One thing I noticed is your legs are bent quite a bit. If you raised the seat you ought to get more pedal power with relative ease compared to having your legs bent sort of like in a duck walk which is difficult to do in general.
Yeah I generally keep the seat pretty low, Its an ebike so it's not often I'm using my legs all out and need full extension.
@@CitizenCycle925 I hear yah. However have you tried your Radrover with legs extended? If not you probably could get another 5-10mph out of your top end.
@@buffalomind6838 omg never 5-10 miles per he… more like 2-3!
@@TheTcat1000 I’ve long since have gotten a fat tire ebike 20” though, so in this case for sure it would be 3mph faster at best. I have not tried a 26, 27.5, or 29” ebike, so I can’t for absolute certainty state it is not really possible.
Awesome! Great to see this! I am wanting to do the same to my Magicycle
Go for it!
Hell yeah my favorite bike and my favorite CZcams or! Everybody better be liking and subscribing to our boy keeping us updated with the latest and greatest! Thanks to you I will be upgrading my magic cycle with a hub motor on the front!
Awesome best of luck with your all-wheel drive conversion 😁
Awesome video it's exactly one of the one to know. About a wide way e-bike off Amazon and I'm hooked sold my crotch rocket and like 1100 CC v65 cruiser. 🎉 Haven't drove my car in 3 months I live 15 miles out of town. Good video
i changed out my front sprocket on an 86’ 450cc nighthawk so i could do wheelies in first gear. Honestly i still had to jump on the back pegs and hit the powerband. That honda had 50k miles and it was 30 years old so no wonder it had significant power loss. My RR6+ didnt even ship yet and Im already looking for speed haha. I wanna be able to use those downhills to my advantage and only being able to pedal roughly 28mph (from what stock users have shown) aint gonna cut it. Thanks for the video and links.
Look into getting . A longer bottom crankset shaft to pushing cranks away from frame
Someone may have said this but you can put on a bigger change ring without messing with the crank.. you just undo the four bolts holding the chainring on and pull it right off over the pedal, just reverse the procedure to put it back on. For the Rad Rover you need a bolt pattern that is called a 104 BCD. Wrong bolt pattern and it's a return item. LOL though anything more than 46 they're going to have to leave off the chain guard cuz it becomes useless with the chain riding higher than the guard. I did mine to 46 I believe it was so I could keep the chain guard on, but I think I may try the 52 to get a little more pedal now that I see yours. I have some of the power upgrades you do and I'm running out of pedal. If I remember they're only like 25 bucks on Amazon.
Ya, I swapped up to a 52-tooth. Much better feel and use of the pedals. But I can't use first gear anymore...chain's too short. But I don't need it!
Happy Thanksgiving CC!
You know I don't even know if I tried shifting to first gear yet, It's really a gear I never use
Very nice upgrade. Maybe a few more links in the chain so it doesn't over work the derailor. Maybe not though. Great job man.
I'm not sure if it's easier to add links or just get a whole new chain
Looks really kool bro, 👍. Quick question, your mirrors show the sky🤔 do they need adjusting or are they just for show 👍
This was a tremendously helpful video. I just got my 750 Mid-drive Bufang E-Mtb Bike from Accolmile. I noticed that at the 22-25 mph range I could hardly keep up with the pedals. I was looking for a way to increase the resistance at these speeds to make it more enjoyable to ride at higher speeds. Your video explained all that. I wish you would have gotten more into "indexing the derailleur" to adjust the gears, now that you have a larger chainring upfront. I have no idea how to do that, I am a novice at adjusting gears. Did you have to do many adjustments? Is it possible I could change to a larger tooth chainring and not have to do any adjustment on the gearshifting? My bike also has a cutoff when I'm switching gears, it shuts off the power for a second or two while I'm shifting. I wonder if that's going to be affected by doing this?
I'm no bike expert either, but if compare your rear derailleur from the old to the new, you've changed its position quite a bit. It would appear that you are putting more coiled tension on the spring. I would add more chain lengths to bring the derailleur to the original position. You might damage it otherwise.
Good info. It appears that the motor(s) are governed to max out at a particular RPM. So no matter how much more effort you put into the petals, the motor will not spin faster. From the looks of the angle of the derailleur, you might consider adding a few links to the chain.
I agree 100%
I was thinking the same thing.
I may have to figure out how to pop a few links in there or maybe just get a new chain
If the cadence sensor is on the crank then it should go faster with a larger chainring, would be different if on the hub
yep great vid. i run a 58 tooth with no probs on a chinese bike . but i find the speedos not accurate anymore.but like u say loads of usable power now
I put a 28 t To 11t sprocket on the rear of my Radrover and have peddled up to 32mph. I am 71 years old.
Looking forward to seeing the next obvious upgrade for that bike: Wings. XD
Hub motors are limited to the current they receive. As much as I ride it's going to be a fight against engine resistance. For a mid drive this upgrade would be great
Hey there sir, i own an Aniiki a7 pro,8 speed, same rear hub bafang set with the internal sensors inside the bottom bracket, i did upgrade from stock 46t to 47t with the same litepro square hole crankset, however, still pedalling like crazy, i thought about a 53t set up, will be doing this upgrade if yu are satisfied 😎
FINALLY!!! Someone doing what I've been feeling I needed for a LONG time. LOVE my eBike.. hate that at pedal assist 3,4,5 the pedals are useless. I'd like to still get SOME workout value (at age 60) even though eBike's really my only choice now for hills, etc. But the 48T chainring that comes stock on my Docrooup DS-2 is just not enough. I just ordered (from the same company as yours there) a 58T. The 56 is the most popular but it's on back order until July 31 (2022) - wanted something sooner. Your tutorial on how to use the crank puller was perfect! Thx!! What size wrenches again? And what size allen?
How has it been working out for you ? I am thinking of upgrading my 48T too !
I want to put a 52 tooth crank set on the lectric 2.0 with an 11 tooth freewheel on the back
I like your experimental spirit!
I am just starting my journey into e-bikes. I would guess that the bike came with the 42 because the motors will need your help to climb up hills but are fine rolling down hills.
To understand the effect of rear sprockets vs. different size front chainrings google chain inches or gear inches (it is how far the bike will move with 1 revolution of the pedals). More practically, at the same pedal rpm: big front-small back (last-gear) is fast for down-hill, small front-big back (first-gear) is slow for up-hill.
Because 35mph is Tour du France-like speed, your top speed is likely limited by the hub motors (not a racing bike - not a professional cyclist). So, a mid-drive might make a difference because of the leverage (42 vs. 53) in the gears. What do you think?
Cheers,
Hi will this increase the battery life, considering your peddling effort has gone up?
Dude replace rear freewheel with 11-34t and 56t chainring on my kepler and I pedal to 40+ mph on flat. My stock 52t wasn't good enough but 56t was the goddess I could fit. I got a narrow wide chainring now I have enough pedal.
How much did you have to grind off on the right pedal arm? Do you have a pic of it after grinding?
I have a velowave ranger, love the bike but bent the sprocket and maybe left crank arm. Straightened it back but want something that looks better anyway. Do you know of any aftermarket that will fit without any issue?
Can you please 🙏 tell me what size chain ring I need for my swagtron Eb7 bike. I purchased a 53T/ 130mm bcm chain ring and the bolt holes don't line up. I am having the worst time finding out what chain ring I need for a greater size chain ring on my bike so that I don't ghost peddle anymore.
hi there. im thinking if doing this to my engwe engine x. it has the entry level seven speed tourney gears and in 7th its way too short. it would be a cheaper fix than changing the cassette and shifters. what do you think?
Nice.....
Wish you bought the 56t I sent you the link for a few months ago. Fit and finish was much better than that one. Enjoy the extra peddle on you bike.
Sorry lost track of that comment, happens quite often. people comment with great suggestions and I can't find them again. I really should be writing them down. 🙂
Hey citizen, max again. I replaced my 52tooth chainring on my AR kepler with a 56tooth narrowwide chainring and I had it h/l limits were good but chain will not stay on, I tried indexing it but now won't stay on at all once hit a bump or anything comes off. CAN I TIGHTEN derailer enough so won't fall off , it's a Shimano atlus derailur? If not I need a deraileur with a STRONG SPRING to keep on chainring. Thx I tried everything. Can't get to work put old 52tooth on and still skipping and can't put pressure on pedals or comes off. Thx again max
Will this fit on a hemiway cruiser?
Could you provide us a test for off road and uphill riding? I believe this will be a great upgrade for flat on road use, but for those of us who ride their bikes in hilly area’s it will make peddling uphill more difficult.
Yes would probably decrease steep hill climb ability, but my bike with the dual motors as plenty of power to climb anything I need
Chainring says it's for 1/8 chain...still fits?
Might be able to swap the left crank with another of your bikes. I’ve had this issue too. Being able to pedal up to 32 is ok for me but past that it’s more about keeping the bike straight and not getting the death wobble.
Yeah.. I even feel a little unsafe at 25mph... even with fat tires. 35 would be too unsafe a feeling for me on a bike. Luckily my Docrooup DS2 tops out at about 26.. and I set pedal assist 5 at only about 88% of battery top - as a sort of 'governor'. Be careful, people.. If you have a fall on an eBike at 30.. They pick you up 'with a spoon'..
I installed an 11 tooth in the rear an can petal to 31mph @ 71 years old.
Did you do any other upgrades? If not that's very impressive!!
I just found that the magnet ring on my rover was broken. So I'm trying to get a new one from Rad. An I just asked them what puller they would recommend. An here you are with the answer. Thanks. My rover is still stock here. But I thought. Could I change my sprocket to a 53? I'm going to consider it. Thanks again. 😊
Thanks Dana. I'm glad this video helped you 😁
How much does your bike weigh? tryn to keep the weight down yet hit 30mph for commute on flat ground so would i need 2 hubs + batt/extras or will one mid drive with a big front chain ring work?
what puller tool is that?
Thanks so much for this video...Did I miss the link to the puller tool? I am hoping to do this on the 2020 RR step through
added the link to the puller to the top of the list in the description :)
@@CitizenCycle925 thank you
my stock speed is at like 20mph.
With this upgrade If I can make my bike go faster, will it damage the rear motor ?
I want a 75 tooth like I had on my tour easy it was nothing to ride 35 mph to 40
I have the bafang G062 on my rover5. I can get up to 35MPH pedaling easily. Scary, though....
Wish you could do that with the Himiway Zebra!
Just add a washer to bring it out more
Happy holidays. I heard since you're in the holiday spirit you're going to give away a bike around Christmas which one will you give away? You'd probably get a lot more views
I'm still currently coming up with a plan on what to do with these bikes but they're probably will be a giveaway coming, but I'm not shipping bikes anywhere so it'll be a local giveaway.
All you had to do is switch out the gear not the whole crank.... And is cheaper and easier...
You can actually have two gears on the chainring, one up front and one where gear is sitting...
The bike makers need to rework the software to include the size of the chainring!!!
Which crankset from amazon will fit a Hiboy p6? Hofw can you know which one to purchase?
Also, what about the possibility of replacing only the sprocket with a larger one. I see Amazon offers 52t sprockets with identical hole positions as the 48t sprockets. Could you unscrew the original from the crank arm disc and replace it with the larger one?
What about smooth all weather tires? Do you know where to get them from?
I do not know where to get those. I also did see low profile fat tires once but never found them again. I prefer the knobby tires
Any coverage of Himiway’s new ebikes? They look beastly 😳
No plans as of now, I guess we'll see you which eBike vlogger's they decide to cooperate with 😁
You really gotta make that chain longer to compensate though ... otherwise you will do damage to the derailleur.....
I was thinking the samething!
Yeah I was wondering about that, chain is certainly much tighter. maybe that's my next change on the bike. Thanks
@@CitizenCycle925 You would need 6 more links
@@vaughntonkin539 how do you figure out, how many links you need ?
You will need to add a one link to the chain for every extra tooth. This will take it back to normal.
That would be far too many extra links (11), especially for a well used chain. 1-3 max if any are needed at all.
Drift maniac freewheel
I have a question. How did you get your bike to go so slow? I know everyone seems to want their ebike to go faster but at 70, I do not. My radcity goes 22 km/h even while ghost peddling on flat ground and while I have become used to it I would still like it slower when I want to just putter along. Although I can program a slower speed down to 14 km/h, all settings from 14 to 19, default to 20. Rad was no help, didn't even understand what I was asking. I have figured out how to deal with it using the throttle but it would be nice if the bike did what I asked. Ultimately I would like to keep the top speed at 32 km/h but lower the amount of assist at each of the 5 levels. presently it's set to 20,40,60,80,100 but I would like 10,20,60,80,100. I rarely ever use 3, 4, 5 as my area is completely flat and any inclines are easily handled at pas 2. Anyone have any thoughts? Eggrider can almost do it as I understand it but I may have it wrong and that would work exactly as I have asked.
I asked my kit supplier similar questions. They said that except for amperage limits adjustment, and assist adjustment which can mess with the start effort and assist feel, speed is hard programmed.
You could possibly change wheel size to a larger wheel in the display adjustment, and it will trick the computer into thinking the bike is traveling faster than it really is.
get a torque sensing bike would be the ultimate answer
The red and white bike in the background @ 8:52, is that an ebike?
Yes it is 🙂 pee wee ebike
@@CitizenCycle925 I like it! do you have a video on it? If not can you make one?
@@jasonwheat5242 yes, I did a whole video on it.
Doesn’t that require a bigger chain too?
ideally, i think adding a link or two would be appropriate.
shorter crank arms would give you more speed along with the new chain ring. Longer crank arms would be slower but more power.
Never thought of shortening those but I think it's fine as is right now.
@@CitizenCycle925 Just a thought, it would also keep it from hitting the frame, but with the power you have on that thing now is awesome any more and it would be a rocket lol
@@CitizenCycle925 What length are the crank arms?
correct gearing make a bike run better
Will it not hurt your motor because you're adding extra power by pedalling?
The motor will last longer cause you are helping the motor with the bigger front chainring get it. and the battery will drain less, happy days are here.
yea the 42's leave you free wheeling even in 7th.
Beast mode hahahah
need to add 3 links
try 6
Go one better and put a maniac 11-34 rear
I have my old 11-34 freewheel I could put back on but I don't have a tool to remove the freewheel, I think Bolton sells those I may have to pick one up, although I kind of like the gearing as it is right now.
Your seat is to low! Raise it up 1 full inch and you will absolutely get more leg drive resulting in more top speed!
Why would you upgrade such a shitty bike that much? I have a rad rover 2018 as well. No full suspension. Not a mid drive. It’s clumsy and heavy. I do like the mirrors. I keep busting up mine. Will probably bust my left side again soon lol
Upgraded it because it's what I had and also Since I didn't really know what I was doing, I wouldn't be upset if I ruined it, Better to experiment on something that's not awesome. 😁