How To Carry - Kitakaze - In-depth Analysis
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2019
- Another more in-depth look into the sheer carry power of the Kitakaze, in this commentary I attempt to explain my thinking and decisionmaking in detail as I try to carry my team to a victory. You can find my recommended build at the end as usual.
- Hry
Enjoy the Kita while it lasts, I expect WG to nerfbat this thing soon. Can't even blame em for it.
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Are you Catholic Flamu?
Don't jinx it!
btw fire chance IS 5% but reduced to 4% because of IFHE.
also please use more AP with kitakaze. its fucking awesome...dont waste the damage!
kita and akizuki shit on everything, harugumo isnt that great against other DDs but still managable. dunno how that is leaning towards up
@@zeerk2466 haru is just a smoke spitter...nothing else
The Musashi at the end was running Radio Location...
at least not survivability expert...
I noticed...very odd.
Lol yamasushi radio vs FP? I'd take FP any day...
@Golden Eagle didn't you see the located icon?
he's probably training a captain
@@m33p0 "he's probably training a captain" - I would hope so, but you never know. He might think Radio Location is a great way to know which way to point his guns before the enemy is spotted, because of Musashi's slow turret traverse. You never know what kind of twisted logic some players use to make decisions.
-1 kills is second on the scoreboard. 😂
It almost looks like he got points for killing his teammate xD
According to many of my recent games, there are no teammates. There are red enemies and there are green enemies. The only people you can really rely on are the gold teammates
He‘s in kitakaze
yeah that's that kitakaze firing torpedoes into a melee of ships, stupid move.
i like this "stop and explain the situation"-thing. keep on doing it! That was very helpfull, i cought myself so often smoking up in so many stupid situations, not having a single smoke left when its needed
"everyday is weekend nowadays"...........yeah pretty much
Preemptive torping only works if they enemy is predictable. Predictable as in they play the most logical choice, unlike the musashi at the end.
OMG FLAMU PLS DO MORE OF THESE VIDS!!! You TEACH players how to position, which many suck at including myself. The freeze framing with explanation of what’s going on, your positioning, and what you will do next is a great method. Keep up the good work m8!
Thanks for going over your strategy in how you are using your Kitakaze! That teaches me a lot! I find it interesting how you are sitting back and analyzing everything as you do it.
I also like how you are calling the ships are your team "Your Missouri" and "Your Atlanta". Good teamwork philosophy!
Now please do this again in a game with 2 CVs :))))))))))))))))))))))
HA HAHA! Ha haha ha... hmmm :l
Some more brackets would serve your comment well :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Very good tactics tutorial, as usual
28:57 "If you're a new player" lol. With 19pt captain, and a tier 9 DD?
Half the players at T10 are new players with big wallets.
If you start and ONLY grind 1 DD line you can still be a noob at T9
ive seen players with 6000 battles and PR of below 100 (no im not joking. i could even provide links but i dont want to encourage witch hunts) and that was the only time i checked my teammates profile.
Great review. This is why I love Flamu and his vids.
Hello! Flamu, another great video!!! You have helped me soooo much!!! If you would, please do a video on your graphics settings, your videos look amazing! even just video card and any NVidia control panel settings. Thank you!
This may be an older video, but it has helped me a lot. Thank you bub.
Would love to see some Royal Navy DD commentary flamu. These videos are amazing, very informative
Well, at the moment it's a f@ckfight. The Daring with mediocre AA, no speed boost, large size, short smokes, no defensive fire in carrier heavy games with often 2 carriers in tier 8 upwards, with guns which are balanced around their AP with terrible HE.... it's horrible. I enjoy the ship as someone who's a British main, but all the British lines are in a crap place.
Kitakaze is only overpowered because it has 1/4 pen HE and can pen 32mm armor with IFHE. adjust its pen to 1/5th and it will solve a lot of whats wrong with it. It wont solve what it can do to lightly armored cruisers, but as far as farming BB's with ~32mm armor and less it will require a lot more work
Step one to having a good game in any ship, but most particularly DD's NO CV's
The control points on that map looks a bit phallic
BBQ in February. Nice.
Yeah well, Free Xp'ed this thing for ranked, worked very well. Just switched to the build you just showed. Bam, T10 mm, 4 kills, 231k dmg. i love it :D
Today I've unlocked Kitty-Kaze! so far I've enjoyed a lot from Poi to Akizuki these are my favorite DDs so far followed by USN DDs. :3
Would you say the Harugumo fits this same playstyle considering its manoeuvrability and concealment is a little eh?
Kitakaze - carry, no flamu you mean club. I have noticed that Kitakaze has a magical ability where once it is spotted on a flank all the bbs sail in the other direction. It's pretty neat though how the bbs do move in herds.
Hallo, Flamu! Can you show the master of carry on the Roon in current meta please??? Thanks a lot for the effort anyway!
Last sentence most important!
Any tips on "Engaging" the Rest of the Team, to actually shoot at the ships i´m spotting with my CV Planes?
If you're a T8 CV in a T10 battle, hit "escape" then click "exit to port." Then play with literally any other ship! That will solve all your problems :)
how to get the simplest viewfinder the simple dot without any lines
is the propulsion modification of a special module? i don't have it showing in my options
Hi.
I ran exactly the same build as you have on my Kitikaze and also have the fire flag and yet my build shows i only get 6.5 fire chance. Any ideas where i have gone wrong? Oh scratch that. i was missing the other flag, my bad. ignore me hehe!
How would a Cleveland handle a Kitakaze? Or a Seattle for that matter, which is mostly a recycled Cleveland with more HP and no secondaries? I was in a Tier 10 Random Battle in a Seattle. The battle was turning against us as A cap was getting overrun Our Musashi was out by himself coming under fire from an enemy battleship and a smoked up Kitakaze. There were other enemy ships behind an island. I was pulling out of the area but decided to go back to help the Musashi get away. The Kita turned its attention to me and I got wrecked by it as well as fire coming in from all over the map. I could see the Kita without radar a lot of the time too. After he was done with me, he finished off the Musashi.
The only thing I can take aware from it is I should have kept retreating and left the Musashi to his fate.
You have to be inside 10km, preferably 6-8km in the Clevelan/et al. That way you can score 6-8 pens per salvo. Two salvo will kill a wounded Kit, and four a full health one. Don't try to rush from outside 8km unless the Kit is severely wounded and you only need to score a half dozen hits total to kill.
If I get it right 16:14 cruisers beyond 10km cant hit agile fast neptunes. Noted with question mark
This was a great video. I just bought my first CV, I decided on the US line first. Is there a chance you could do a build video in the new play of these? I have no clue how to set them up.
Set them up for torpedo bombers or dive bombers, and get plane health on your captain as fast as possible.
I don't think that sequential fire reduces your overall DPM, it only does for the first salvo. Because when you get to the second cycle the guns fire immediately after they reload. The only case when your DPM is reduced is when the time required to cycle the guns is more than your gun reload time, which, I think, only happens in the Harugumo with a slight AR buff. Please do correct me if my math is wrong.
I was thinking the same. In fact, sequential fire might even increase DPM (by a very small factor) because the guns fire the millisecond they are ready, where salvo fire requires you to double-click the instant the guns are reloaded. The difference may be negligible though. And we should of course not forget the fun rainbow of shells the sequential fire makes xD
yes but i still prefer to perfectly aim per salvo instead of having to perfectly aim 100% of the time
@@cbangm Nah, you can preemptively click for salvo fire while the reload is coming off and they'll fire immediately. There's a short activation window (1s I believe) prior to finishing a reload where it'll sort of "queue up" the order to fire.
@@Schmeethe88 So there is no way you can lose your DPM. Good to know.
I find sequential fire more accurate against bow on ships, in full salvo half of the shells falls to water
Oh they remade the map, moving that terrible D spot. Good stuff.
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No isoroku captain and getting kraken on Kitskaze?
Its dishornorabruuu to isoroku
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
a true legend puts him on the kamikaze
Kitakaze...the ship that give me honorably solo warrior to me...the only ship i dont sell for credit....and i run the exact same build as this and its fun to see the world burnnnn
Left click?
During this season of ranked, as soon as the captain was somewhat skilled, it was such a pain in the ass fighting against this ship. I saw players carry the game and make it look so easy :-(
You could say the same of any ship. Even a damn Ibuki
By the time I grind up to the Kitakaze Wargaming will probably nerf it.
It's no real surprise the Kitakaze is so strong. The Akizuki is what I consider the best T10 DD and it's tier 8. I love the shit out of Akizuki and don't hesitate to start shit with tier 10 DD's. And Kitakaze is just a improved Akizuki. It's like a tier 10.5 DD.
You think that F. DeGrosse overextended?
The Devils Ship! Thing is Evil!
You said that the Kitakaze needs nefs but, what would you nerf about it?
I'd Give Akizuki, Kitakaze, and Harugumo all pretty terrible concealment, in the 6.3-6.5 range. Then I'd completely remove the torpedo reload booster. They are amazing gunboats, and being able to pump out 12 Japanese torpedos at a time sounds like a mainline Japanese DD with crappy guns. I'd also give them the option of Def AA instead of spood beest.
14:50 no yamamoto buff ;-;
Has anyone else seen the new WOWS ad where the guy gets hit with the turret? lol
One of my favorite moments in WoWS was ambushing a Kitakaze in his own smoke with my Neptune. I snuck up on him and hydroed him before he knew what was happening. Unfortunately his buddy in the Yamato finished me off.
They'll probably nerf it to hell by the time I get one.
6:18 Flamu proceeds to pronounce Jutland "Yootland" haha
Also, great performance once again Flamu!
That is actually how you pronounce Jutland. We, the British, Anglicised the pronunciation. Sure, it is our ship. But Flamu is not an Englishman, and as such would not be expected to know how we pronounce that ship. However, he does know how to pronounce the name of the place the battle took place after which that ship is named, and that place is pronounced Yootland.
is it nerfed already at this moment??
Very odd the Musashi had RPF....don't see that often.
premium ships dont need specialized captain
"Every day is weekends." *checks date and time.*
If you only knew...
If they are going to nerf Kitakaze, then they better nerfbat all the Royal Navy DDs as well.
Ofc not, IJN ships are intended to be bad and RN hasn't been in the long enough to for WG to nerf them since they still hope people will spend money on getting to the top tier quicker... less players would do so if they touch a line which might be performing decently.
Well the mid tier is pretty weak (Acasta, Icarus, Jervis is kinda meh due to it's concealment) though compared to the high tier. Jutland could use some nerfs though.
... and they'll sell an unnerfed kita-clone for cash just like good ole kami. mark my words.
Haven't spent more than say $15 for things like Dubs and Premium time since the British DD release, and I'm already at full upgraded Jutland grinding towards Daring... It doesn't take long anymore to grind through a ship line.
@@IconProduction01 Is that an issue though? Making the grind harder will certainly turn off players, and after putting in around 300h (F2P) I would want to be able to experience 'end game' gameplay (T10.) Certainly there the argument that we have too many noobs at high tier, but i don't see why we would want to restrict this further. Considering WoWs is a pretty niche game.
The nautical term is "salvo," not "volley."
And I just recently got the Kitakaze ... hehah.
2nd on the team has -1 Kills on a victory... Damn!
Is it worth it to run IFHE on the Kitakaze ?
Massively worth it. You go from 24mm to 32mm of penetration. Which basically means you increase the percentage of pens on cruisers and battleships from about 15% to close to 75%.
It easily triples your average damage.
Neptune and stealthy are two words together I've never heard.
Did Flamu leave CR33D?
14 fires mean while in my zao im happy with 7 ... :D
ijn gun boat's firepower is even more terrifiy than atlanta
Good vid and I hope they don't nerf Kit and Haru. I need them just the way they are. :D
Are both the Kitakaze and Harugumo going to be nerfed?
They need "more data" :)))))))))))))))))
no. They are balanced, comrade ^^
They have talked about changing IFHE, so I'm guessing they will not nerf them until that happens, since they are so reliant on that skill.
Why would you nerf the Harugumo? Its worse than the Kita. Kita is busted, Haru isnt that great.
Haru is not even close to kita, kita got better speed, turning circle, conceal, and dont even get full pens from bbs what's much more valuable than it looks
Press mouse 1 and let it rain! =))
Mochi with RPF and instant DamageCon..hm...
That was a real masterclass showing the sorts of considerations you have while playing.
As for "balance" (WG? LOL), have you seen the triple Harugumo div replay by Flambass where there's no CV and no radar against them? Utterly broken.
czcams.com/video/We0EF4kag9Y/video.html
Well cant comment anything cause i havent watch the video yet
do you run IFHE as well as demo expert? or just demo
Well its always nice to see your videos, but also frustrating to see how much damage you did and carry the team. have the last 2 weeks not a single fun moment in wows. almost the same, getting a position and play for the objective but then almost a few potatoes fucked up the whole match, every time. leaving flanks while broadsiding to other ships and so far. since the CV rework WG pissed on every one who played the game siriously and now im seeing to much Winrate far under 50% in my team and i think whats wrong with the game and players. besides that, the amount of overpens with a battleship on broadside cruisers isnt fun, it makes me so mad.
RPF Musashi 😂
No shit they gonna nerf it they nerfed the yueyang and in process of nerfing conq
Conqueror is terrible tho. Oh, it causes fires, but it's a shotgun that excels in short range fights.. but doesn't have the armour for it and with the slow heals you get focussed down by DPM. Only way to play the ship is to sit at range and pray for those HE hits, but I've gone games with 70 main battery hits and 3 fires, because RNG. If they want to fix the ship, they need to make it like the Vanguard, make it a laser with a big citadel and give it historically strong British deck armour instead of the pathetic levels wargaming gave it.
Finally somone understands while everyone else is saying this ship is stupidly overpowered its so. Inaccurate as shit cant bow tank like the others but it has good he and heal but that's about it
On NA, Harugumo has nearly the same average damage as Khab and YY with a much lower winrate. At T9 the Kit is withing 500 avg damage as Chung Mu, and Fletcher and has the lowest WR of the 3. Why Nerf it? Honest question.
It sacrifices so little for so much. The only downsides of the ship are manueverability. It has a large turning circle and is slow (still has speed boost though, so even that is a questionable weakness.) In return, it gets 8 guns that fire under 3 seconds that can penetrate 32mm. Its hard to put into words how much damage that is. T\Its average concealment (despite it having amazing guns) will absolutely destroy enemy DDs, which makes it the king of T9 DDs. The only things I think that could beat it at the tier are the Black and maybe the Z46, simply because they can spot it and damage it without it damaging them. Its AA is also pretty good. Its torpedoes are Japanese, which means that they deal a ton of damage, plus it can fire 12 at the same time! The only downside to the torps is that they have a very, very long reload. It also has a ton of HP, top 3 in the tier. To summarize, it just deals such incredible amounts of damage to every ship class that there is not much counter play against it.
wow!! this rainbow definitely aint rising above the russian khabarovsk...
4th
nice game...but not using AP on broadsides? man thats so much wasted dmg...
u could have done FAR more dmg
Really ? Even tho he killed the broadsiding ships ? How is he gonna get more damage out of them
@@ThatOneDude7 shooting ap at broadsides does way more dmg vs most targets.
Looks like Murphy and his 5 accounts found this video (the number of dislikes). :p
This thing vomits out shells all the time ;)
kitakaze > harugumo
FAR better. all stats are way better and the extra turret isnt worth the massive stat loss
I love the aki-kita-haru trio and got fleet admirals on all3 of em to rise glue levels to maximum :)
Just like Jutland and Daring.
flumy.exe, the only cheat i use for Wows
That’s was just luck that game
Those ships: Cuntakaze & Huyugumo are so disgusting that they should be removed from the game or nerfed to the ground.
Nooooooo!!! Sssshhhh! Don’t give WG anymore stupid ideas! Like they don’t have enough of their own LOL Remember the Yueyang...
These type of ships need big nerf. It is redicolous that some cheap light destroyer is sloughtering super heavy battleships like nothing happens. Destroyers decide battles, and big ships just supporting is redicolous. and now thay also will be best at sub hunting. Come on
I'm not impressed in a positive way by the completely OP/broken, one dimensional Kitakaze. I'm not impressed by players who choose to play the completely OP/broken, one dimensional Kitakaze. I'm not impressed by players who "carry" with the completely OP/broken, one dimensional Kitakaze. I'm not impressed by Kitakaze players teamed up USS Black players in ranked "carrying". Big. Fucking. Deal. It's a ridiculous one dimensional cheesy broken gimmick brought to WoWS by brain dead WG developers. Flamu says "Enjoy the Kita while it lasts, I expect WG to nerfbat this thing soon. Can't even blame em for it." Well, no, I can blame them for it because they are the fucking idiots who created it in the first place! They've been fucking up hard for the last six months,,, a new hire? Give it the Yueyang nerf bat and while you're at it, WG, put Yueyang back to what it was at the begining of last October. Get your shit together, WG.
Why do you keep firing sequentually even at BBs?! You can't argue that it's to "get more hits", it's a bloody battleship! You're sacrificing DPM for no reason. (besides perhaps your finger) Highly questionable
EDIT: Also, you argue that sequential fire helps you get guaranteed damage against juking BB's... but one thing about sequential firing is that it gives you less good accuracy feedback, since it's harder to track which shots hit, and which don't. double click firing actually guarantees more accurate fire than sequential even then.