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REDUNDANT & EXPENSIVE? Sony Lens Review For Filmmakers | 24mm 2.8, 40mm 2.5, 50mm 2.5
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- On the surface, Sony's new 24mm, 40mm, and 50mm lenses appear redundant and more expensive than their budget options. Here's why they may actually be a great choice for filmmakers looking for affordable lenses.
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0:00 Intro
0:28 Why These Lenses Are Redundant & Expensive
1:48 Lens Size Comparison
2:53 Build Quality & Features
5:24 Autofocus Performance
6:33 Manual Focus Performance
6:53 Focus Breathing
7:34 Image Quality
8:01 Are These Lenses Worth It?
9:07 Should You Buy These Lenses?
10:57 BONUS
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These lenses are far from redundant as they change the ergonomics and useability of the a6xxx and the a7c. For us who love the small, discreet rangefinder-style cameras these are a perfect match.
yup yup yup. just got a 24mm f 2.8 for my a7c. now i can toss this camera in my purse and take photos/videos anytime. i chose the a7c for its size to upgrade my canon APSC M6 to a full frame setup again, so might as well keep the lenses light.
These aren't made for the film maker. They are targeted at those buying the A7C. Part of a compact, premium offering of the G line. The nifty fifty 50-f/1.8 is entry level, slower AF with stepper motor and external focusing helicoid. The 50mm f/2.5 is likely a far more advanced optical formula, with ED Aspherical elements. The 50 f/1.8 is the standard 'Planar' formula of old.
Those 3 lenses make a lot of sense for the new upcoming Airpeak Drone from Sony. And I believe that's the only reason why they exist. You can swap them and don't need to rebalance the gimbal. And they are lightweight which is another important reason. Also they have gears also for a gimbal. That's the reason why they exist.
I think you’re absolutely correct.
Now they need to put an 85 or 100 in this size. Ill take either with a drone :D
You had me at, Silent Auto Focus. Throw in zero lag time when manual focusing and these lenses are legit cinema glass!
Thanks Matt.
The 50 2.5 is sharper and lightening fast compared to 1.8. Tried both on a photoshoot.
I just received the 50mm F2.5 today. I also have the big and heavy Sony 50mm F1.2. I am very impressed with the F2.5 imaging quality and sharpness, size and light weight so far. So much so that I'm very excited about it. I'll probably carry this lens with me everywhere! To me it is not redundant at all - it is a high quality, take everywhere lens!!
Don’t care about this 24 ( or any other 24), or the 50, but the 40!... if you ever used a 40 you will realize how versatile it is!
I have the 40mm, and I love it. It is very high quality and versatile. For landscape backpacking trips I take on the A7C and go. I have even gone running with it. Also at F11 to F16 it is one of the sharpest lenses I know of, great for landscape. I have had no problems with the 'small' focus / aperture rings
I'm so thrilled to see a review for these three lenses that isn't just another wildly glowing one right off the bat.
My a7c likes this... specially since I moved to that camera from MFT
I may have bought the 24mm if I didn't already have the 24GM.. While I don't have an interest in these lenses, I think it's good Sony is constantly coming out with new lenses!
also the 50mm f1.8 has tons of chromatic aberrations, slow AF, and super soft corners in the image. I'm sure the 50 f2.5mm beats it in every way.
Matt hows the vignetting on that 50? I'm getting the 40mm f2.5 I think it's the most original of all of them
I sold my 50 1.8 as I just could not stand the chromatic aberration and got the 50 G. It pairs nicely with my A7C and I imagine it'll be nice on my FX3 as well.
I don’t get why you don’t mention options like the 35mm 1.8, the 20mm 1.8, and the 55 1.8 from Sony… Not to mention the many awesome third party ones
I wonder how the 50mm 2.5 stacks up against the 55mm 1.8
I love that they made a 40mm. It's one of my favorite focal lengths. Can't wait until I get my hands on it. I would def get a 40 or 45mm GM if they make one. I have the Konica 40mm and the 2 Minolta 45mm (one is click and other de-clicked). Both companies are predecessors of Sony so I'm pretty stoked that they are continuing this unique legacy focal length and with it the modern features of sony glass like Eye-AF. 🙌🏼
my good friend uses Pentax solely because they have a dead normal 43mm lens 😉
@@longrider9551 What's a dead normal 43mm lens? Is Pentax the only thing they use or they only use it for the 43mm but otherwise uses other cameras?
Those lenses are for ppl like me who want full frame quality dynamic range, shoot street photography and rarely do so at ultra fast apertures. They make perfect sense as they keep your set up small and there are very few compromises made on the optics….well done Sony. Spec chasers get your g-masters!
43mm is the diagonal measurement of most FF sensors, currently only Pentax has one but it is truly dead normal in relation to a FF sensor. I have a very talented photographer friend who was a custom film developer for Ansel Adams protégé John Smith. He has stayed with Pentax because of that one lens a 43mm f1.9
If i have to pick one as a first lens, which one u recommend, 24 or 40
They are A7C (DEFGHIJ) lenses... are they weather sealed, btw?
Samyang's 35mm 2.8 is cheaper and half the size of these ...
1/3-1/4 of the price, half the size/weight.
for use when you pop your camera on their new drone??
So much info on just 3 lenses. Thanks for this video, Matt!
Thanks, Matt, I know I'm considering the 24m for gimbal work.
Thanks Angelo!
@@whoismatt You are a wealth of knowledge, I too, follow your footstep.
The 50mm 1.8 it’s just ok. It’s loud and focus is slow. But it’s ok. I got it second hand.
I'd take the Sony 20 or 35 1.8 anyday over those new lenses.
Yes good choice - dont really get them. Only if you really need small and don't want to be noticed - maybe on a A7C.
They are only £300 more combined, yes more expensive but f1.8 got to be more useful.
Interesting lenses for video.
Great review, greetings!
love the 40mm on my zv-e1! Only complaint is the focus breathing...but its compatible with the breathing compensation feature!
The 50 1.8 has terrible AF, but when you plan on focusing manually its a really good lens. Sharp, crisp and a very good price.
I think its much better lens after the firmware upgrade isnt it?
What do you thing about make wedding photography with the 40mm I have the 35gm but it’s heavy
why don't they make compact primes for 85mm, 135mm? Sony or canon? also why most compact lenses stop around 2.8 why don't they goto 1.8?
Longer lenses require more glass = more weight and size. Lower f stops like 1.8 require more glass = more weight and size. Those pesky laws of physics
Great info in this video Matt, bro I have Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 to film closeups, 1 Rokinon 18mm 1.8 to wide scenes and Sigma 30mm and they are great lenses but I think Sony finally nailed it with that lenses about the small and lightweight to film comfortable without to rebalance the gimbals, so when I use my tamron btw “I love that lens very great quality” but is a heavy and after 15 or 20 minutes filming my arms are tired. But I saw in your test the sony 24mm is very similar in quality to my Rokinon 18mm. You have to try tha lens is cheap, very wide and great quality. But definitely I want to try the Sony 40mm, look great and lightweight. Have good one.
A great review as I have been looking to buy 24mm... I do have a question if you can share your opinion. I would like to use A7C + 24mm as FPV/POV for travelling gears. So, most of the FPVs are going to be walking into a plane, talking to a person in a car, talking over a table full of different plates of food, etc. At the moment, I am using GoPro 9 for videos (at the equivalent 16mm lens) and A7Riii + 35mm.
These lenses are basically mini GM lenses for 1/3rd the price. Excellent build quality, AF speed and accuracy, sharpness etc...They are the cheapest G lenses Sony makes. Dont bother comparing the 50 2.5 to the 50 1.8 because the 2.5 obliterates it in every way possible. In fact, the 2.5 is sharper wide open than the 1.8 ever gets and the AF speed and accuracy is night and day. Not to mention the far superior build quality and pro features found on the 2.5 the 1.8 lacks. Ive been a professional photographer for 17 years and owned that garbage 50 f/1.8 couldn't return it fast enough. So telling photographers to get the 1,8 over the 2.5 is absurd. Stick to videography maybe. Thanks
Since buying my A7sIII, I feel like I'm referencing your videos on a daily basis. Thanks so much for all the high quality information! This (and a few of your other videos) are really helping me hone in on which 50mm to purchase.
Glad to help!
Can you call a button cute? Have you ever heard the phrase, "Cute as a button?" ;) Great video, thanks!
😂😂 true!
Always a fan. For a beginner, why not the Tamron 28-75?
I haven't tried that one yet but heard good things.
That’s the one I have. I was only able to choose one lens to start with my A7S III, so I got that. It’s a great starting lens that is extremely versatile.
And it barely breathes.
i use that too....i think its the best for film makers on a low budget....these new lenses are too expensive and instead of buying any of them the 28-75 is the best option (i will even consider the sigma 28-70)...for me i dont understand why sony made these lenses...infact for a beginner the tamron compact 2.8 prime lenses are better in terms of price and what you get,,,you can invest the 300 plus left into other things...these new sony lenses are too expensive....sony should give us new 85 f1.2 lens....or 105 f1.4....
@@whoismatt please do and also if possible with the tamron compact f2.8 lenses which are 300 dollar cheaper
Thank you for this video! I had the same question and your perspective is helpful. What gimble was that?
Coming from m43 they are the only option that can compete the light weight from m43.
If they make a 85mm 2.5 that small i probably will be switching my current crop sensor system.
It would be 2.8 or 3.5, 85mms are always slightly bigger on FF.
Why did you not talk about the Sigma 24/35/45/65mm lenses? Similar pricing, better build quality, still compact.
Much rather have a Sony or Ziess Batis, in the 1970’s and 80’s Sigma was a low end budget company.
@@fredcsmith000 What a pointless reply. We would all rather have GM, Batis or even Loxia lenses, but these affordable primes by Sony are direct competitors to the Sigma I-Series lenses so it would make sense to talk about them in this video. There is zero point comparing the new Sony 24mm f/3.5 to the Batis 25mm or the the Sony 24mm GM as they aren't targeting the same consumers. But good for you for being an elitist prat. 10 points to Slytherin I guess...
Also, what does 70/80's Sigma have to do with the time time day. You won't find a single person who doesn't think that Sigmas modern lenses A) aren't SIGNIFICANTLY improved over their perviousniffwfings, and B) aren't as good or better than native equivalents across all mounts.
@@liamriley9816 I'm seriously thinking I want the Sigma 65mm (apparently the construction is amazing) and this Sony 40mm.
I'll wait until I can confirm sharpness on the 40mm, though. Everyone says it's "great" but doesn't really compare it with anything else, like the Sigma 50mm Art f/1.4 Art or the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8.
@@BigSlimyBlob As it happens I just bought the 65mm and as you say the construction is nothing short of outstanding. Fully Metal construction with very low tolerances, a metal lens hood that has a very nice texture allowing for easy gripping, and 2 lens caps! One magnetic metal cap which while cool, will collect bits of dirt on the felt side that touches the front element, and regular plastic cap that is just ok. Compact and well made, though perhaps a tad heavier than it needed to be. Certainly a premium product and very sharp. I don't know if I'd replace a 55 1.8 with it, but it's definitely am excellent lens.
@@liamriley9816 Sounds fantastic, I'm definitely considering picking it up. At 405g it may not be the lightest lens around (certainly not compared to this 173g 40mm) but it's light enough for me.
The 55mm is extremely tempting, though. It's really really sharp, lighter than the 65mm, and really not that much more expensive. Either I get a 55mm and use it for everything, or get the 65mm and 40mm and use each for different activities. But going with the 65 and 40, I'm paying more for somewhat less sharpness, so is that worth it? It would help if I knew just how much sharper the 55mm is than those other two. The 65 and 40 aren't crazy top-of-the-line products, but they certainly look pretty sharp.
It's so hard to choose... no wonder these comparison videos are so popular.
Nice review. What’s the lens that you took on the video?
Hey Matt, I’ve seen some of the used Zeiss Batis lenses going for a little more than these new Sony lenses. Just wondering which you feel are better buys for video shooting (Sony A7siii and A7iii) Thanks!
Great Review Matt!
Fx3+24mm+crane m3= a lot more discrete than my current recipe. Which is the FX3, 24mm GM, and RS2.
I bought hte 40mm
love it so far
For gimbal weight matters a lot. This three lenses have the same weight with new 28-60 kit lens, and it allows you not to rebalance gimbal every time switching lenses. The pain in the ass is A7IV does not supports focus breathing compensation for this lenses. Why?!
Hey Matt, seems like they are a good option. Wonder if the gyro stabilization works with that lenses. Any idea? Thanks
Yes it should work with any lens
I feel like the Sony 20mm F1.8 G lens is better bang for buck when comparing it to the new 24mm lens
It's good but definitely a bit more $$
@@whoismatt That’s true. It’s just the only real other comparison that’s not a G master lens. At least in its price range
I have a 24mm f1.4 and a 55mm f1.8. Get the Sony 35mm f1.8 or the 40mm f2.5? I really like an aperture ring
Ooo tough. Both are great
Redundant if you're going to carry your gear for less than 1 hour... yes. But try hiking up a mountain or walking 30+km and carrying a heavy 50mm 1.2 with 3 other big lenses in your backpack, then you will see how amazing these new lenses are. Excellent quality in a very tiny lightweight package, ideal to put on a lightweight body like A7C and carry all day without your arm going numb. Also the basic 50 1.8 is pretty horrible so I'm glad Sony made the 50mm 2.5 as a modern replacement, those AF motors are lightning fast compared to the old one.
Hey Matt, I want to buy a sony a7C with only one lense and I'm thinking of the 40mm 2.5. I mostly shoot People. I'd like to film dance videos and Music videos and do some portrait photographie. Is the 40mm a better choice over the 50mm? Is the 2.5 enough for low light with the a7c?
I say go for the 40
Damn, I’ve been going back and forth between the 40mm and a 35 1.8 Voltrox…
ahhh these are drone lenses, now I get it.
yea but Matt, how reasonable are these for wedding film making where you don't really want to be carrying around and swapping lenses all day? Would you consider these for your gigs? great vid thanks!
I always shoot with prime lenses so I swap a ton on wedding days :)
Yeah I sold my 50mm 1.8 because it was loud!
Glad I was right haha
Loud and slooooowwww... I also had it, but replaced it with a Samyang AF 45/1.8 - so much better. And also cheap!
Same, I sold my 1.8 because it was loud and a bit slow in my opinion. Picked up the 55mm 1.8 instead
Thanks man! Great insights and I always value your opinion 🙏🏼
I have the Sony F1.8 and although excellent it's motor is too noisy for video. That said if turn off auto focus it is a bargain for video. I also own the Sony 1.4 50mm which is great if you want to build up your strength.
Let’s not forget. Sony air peak drone. I think these were made for that.
waiting for 80mm 2.5 g :)
Finally a no nonsense review. Thank you!
if you need small and good autofocus you can just get the sony apsc 35mm for cheaper. It puts your camera into crop mode but since its 1.8 itll look similar in focal length and depth of field as these.
Wouldn't work with the a7siii in 4K 😭
I am a photographer, meaning that I never shoot video. I am thinking to get Samyang 24mm 1.8 over 24mm 2.8.
I do landscape photography So, i think i won't need any extra clicks and rings and I could save some money too.
sony better for grading on video, thats wht i feel on my project
I wanna get a a7siii and at first I thought Im gonna get the 24gm and the 50mm zeiss with it… but since I now saw those g lenses I‘m not so sure anymore….😅
If they drop the price to $499, have all lens sitting at 2.5 aperture, and provide more focal lengths, then these lens would be a ton more appealing
50mm f1.8 is very loud when focusing. Didn't like it. I might get 50mm & 24mm.
Nice review 👍 been looking for this kind of video where reviewer considered the filmaking capabilities of 50mm lens. But still I'm torned what should I get, I'm a hybrid shooter.. Sony 50mm f2.5 G? Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 or Sigma 28-70mm f2.8?
I’ve heard great things about the Tamron
@@whoismatt thanks for your suggestion. 👍
I love these lenses especially for gimbal work. I can easily swap between them without having to rebalance the gimbal at all.
I also like how lightweight they are which helps with filmmaking in more challenging areas like outdoors
I feel it's a gyp without at least F2.
Matt: That 50 1.8 is the absolute worst AF lens for both photo and video when paired with the A7III, A7RIII and A7C. I'll give up the the 1.8 for 2.5 for better AF any day (but I do have the Sigma 50 1.4 Art for when I need it).
If you want a 50mm that doesn’t breath then the f1.2 is definitely not the way to go.
55 1.8 ftw!
Coming through with the great reviews!!
Thanks! :)
Ironically the 50mm f1.2 is even worse for focus breathing. Your better off getting a cheap Rokinon cinema lens if video and focus breathing are your priority.
Hi mat, it would be fantastic if your video have the caption available too hehe.. i love of all your video
love the reviews Matt. When are we getting more wedding day BTS ? PLEASE !
Haha more are coming I promise!
Can cofirm, the old 50mm is pretty weak AF and the clicking and hunting makes me scared to ever use it for client work
The 24mm 2.8 is exactly what I need for my a6400. Thank you so much, Matt!
Great video, Matt! Thank you!
Thanks!
This lenses is for A7c and fx3 to be used on airpeak... simple
First thought. These are for the lift drone.
Oh oh I get confused you love the 24mm 1.4 GM LENS.... Right?
So glad that you made this video
thank you
Thanks Cody!
Who's buying one of these? Why or why not? 😜
No, Im happy with the ones we have.
You should do a review of the 50 1.2!
Nope!
@@calinifintyplusone hoping to pick up one soon!
@@BSRWeddingFilms you're too busy making TikToks! 😜
So is it focus by wire still?
Yes
Sony needs a true Pancake full frame lens like the Canon 40mm 2.8.
Pancakes are delicious and I completely agree. These lenses are muffins, not pancakes
And that gem costs only $150.
excellent video thank you!
No one should ever buy the 50mm 1.8. Ever. If you're reading this, DO NOT BUY THE 50MM 1.8!!! ITS ABSOLUTE TRASH! But to answer your question I'd buy these lenses if I were someone who recently bought the A7C and wanted to keep my set up small and compact.
😂😂 glad you agree
🤣🤣🤣🤣 That lens is trash.
55 1.8 on the other hand is the best! Sick value on used market.
I agree the 50 1.8 is the worst, cromátic aberration levet 9000. I have the 20mm 1.8 G and its an amazing lens, I would buy the 40mm eyes closed if it gives the same image quality as the 20mm
@@kifley19 it really is.
Thank you for your explanations and scenario considerations. I am on the cusp of purchasing a A7C and I think I'll go with the 24mm as my first prime so I can learn as I film while on vacation and for vlogging.
i just like light weight lenses. especially on the gimbal.
I want a 28mm! Give me a 28mm sony
Great video!
40mm is the perfect focal length for cinema. Ask Roger Deakins.
I see a strong vignetting at 6:20
You forget the 25mm Batis. I would include that in comparisons
The 25mm batis is hard to compete with , it's a beast .
That’s a great lens but also 2x the price
I was today years old when I found out that the G on Sony lenses stood for Gold 😂😂😂
Matt your review are rock solid and you make be laugh (like a turd).
Good lenses for the average photographer who wants small size and aperture rings and bobs you uncle. I dig these.
They're referred to as cupcake lenses 🧁🧁🧁
Hm ... nice ... but still waiting for a 50 mm, 1.8, great af and up to NO focusbreathing. - Hey, I'm allowed to dream!
thats exactly my question. why?? 50mm 2.5
I think, one of the biggest pro for Sony is the lens selection. Especially third party support.
Canon and Nikon lost it by closing down their system.
Sony ftw!
What’s that fieeeep noice in the background?