About That Trump-Biden Debate...
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- Sarah Isgur, Kevin Williamson, Steve Hayes and Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle discuss Joe Biden’s hard-to-watch debate performance. Is anyone really surprised?
The Agenda:
-Will Joe still the be Democratic nominee?
-Who would let Biden step on that stage?
-Trump’s veepstakes
-Oh yeah, Trump was awful too
-Looking forward to September
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This isn't about whether or not Joe Biden should run for 4 more years. It's about whether or not he should still be in the Oval office next week.
The fact that they don’t connect this to why people already support Trump is very fascinating to me.
Lefties live in denial. Then they steal votes.
Now, Sarah, ask yourself: Why do you think voters are paying no attention to the Trump "felonies." DOH!
Weekend At Bernie's. Jill, for wanting another 4 years in the big house, has a lot to answer for.
Jill... you mean Lady MacBeth?
As someone who's been watching a number of post-debate analyses from the Democrats and anti-Trumper side, I can tell you what I've seen thus far:
After a few initial moments of panic last night, by this morning most of them were scrambling back onto the Titanic. The prevailing apologetic theme is that this was just "one bad night." No worries. Just look at his outstanding performance at a North Carolina rally this morning! See? Everything's fine! It almost has a copy/paste, bot army feel to it.
All because one man is too lacking in integrity, wisdom or humility to step aside and let someone else steer the ship away from the iceberg. We're f@cking doomed.
Part of the problem can be when your powers of assessment are slipping, they especially slip on yourself. My Mom was sharp well past 90, but there's been a surprisingly large decline in the last year or two.
It's been a lot of difficult and at times somewhat argumentative discussions, because there are good days and bad days, and certain times of day are usually better than others. She can find arguments that are valid, that other things are causing the difficulties.
Undoubtedly I could have, and arguably should have, done the job better and put more into it.
It would have been nice if Mom was more supportive, but it's hardly a grave character failure on her part.
It's mostly on me.
There's rarely clear lines, but even without Alzheimer's there's all kinds of ongoing physiological deterioration associated with blood flow etcetera that progresses us into different abilities to evaluate things proficiently. The scary thing is, once you're looking for it, it seems clear to me it's a sort of ongoing decline from midlife or earlier onwards. Wisdom and acquired skill can counterbalance and even tip things to positive for many, many years, but that only works for some individuals and for only so long ...
The points of functional thresholds will differ between individuals for reasons of the environment, genetics and biology.
It's perhaps always too risky to be putting the 70+ and older class in certain like positions.
However, we also need to improve our dealing with the reality of self assessment losses whenever they occur. FWIW... A co-aging spouse can sometimes actually make things worse, as they can also have lost assessment capabilities, and might reinforce their partners bad self assessment. It's the more capable individuals that really are failing us.
it is infuriatiing that they have resorted to gaslighting
BIden was asked to speak using his brain at the debate. At rally locations, Biden reads his speech off a teleprompter. So these 2 situations are apples and oranges.
@@willchristie2650 To a degree, yes. However, to be fair, even reading off a teleprompter requires a finessed delivery style. Half of politics is performance.
That said, despite the protests of many that this was "one bad night," does ANYONE really believe there won't be more, perhaps even WORSE episodes between now and November?
Well, doomed until Trump takes over.
Hey C'mon, this is no sudden surprise: Joe Rogan was calling this out six years ago
Having to practice walking is an indicator…..he is not capable of leading our country. The man deserves to be treated with dignity and allowed to retire….not propped up like a weekend at Bernie’s.
Yep, as soon as that was brought up, I'm thinking 'Hello? He is worrying whether or not he'll make it to the podium successfully!!' What could possibly be wrong?
“Bed debate”. lol. It was a catastrophic performance. To characterize it as a bad debate shows that your diet consists of koolaid
If you are surprised, question your choice of information sources.
Who’s in charge now?
There’s no way it’s Biden.
It hasn't been him for at least two years, probably actually from the moment he was sworn in. Et tu, Barack?
@@sportsmediaamerica- I would be embarrassed to have the opinion you just stated. But I have the capability of feeling shame, kind of like messing up a simple arithmetic equation. Not only that, Obama actually wanted Biden to drop out. That’s odd for someone to do who’s in power. But I guess math doesn’t math, huh.
His cabinet and the executive apparatus.
@@iMatti00 Obama wanting Biden to drop out doesn't mean Obama hasn't been the one making the decisions so far. The orders have been given.
@@iMatti00wrongo Obama’s the only president to never leave dc.
So why is that none of this could be spoken of - especially among Democrats - prior to the debate?
Because of...TDS?
They didn't expect trump to agree to the debate. One he did, they were stuck. He was given the best prep and drugs that could be mustered, but it wasn't enough. Personally, I think that the dose was mistimed. He was lost for 1st 30 mins, then woke up later.
Is that a good thing to know?? LOL! Oh okay, so NEXT time he will be fine. LOL!
I was SOOOOOO happy to see this Podcast post. I love this crew and Sarah is awesome.
The blame squarely falls on Jill Biden. Why did she do this to her husband?
The cover of Vogue magazine might give you a hint. & I wonder why Melania, a model never graced the cover of Vogue in her 4yrs ???
Just stumbled upon this podcast. Liked the discussion, will continue to watch. However, we need to get Sarah a portable light when she is traveling…
Excellent discussion. Sarah is THE champion podcast host. Thank you.
I enjoyed the video. I usually listen to the podcast but it is entertaining to see your faces.
Love the salty tears
Who or rather what group of persons are in charge of the Executive Branch at this moment in time? If that question is too direct, let me rephrase it by asking who is the Power of Attorney for Granfather's estate?
The Executive Branch is on autopilot. Staffers, civil servants, and the security apparatus are doing the heavy lifting here lol.
@@tb8865yes. And very young, inexperienced staffers often going rogue. And he won’t fire them.
The TDS is strong in the bearded one.
LOL!
This democracy should not be decided by donors or commentators or journalist elite. It's up to voters right? So how can THE PEOPLE should decide how to fix this. Not the powerful.
THE THUMBNAIL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, the 25th does account for a President who can contest. It’s written right into the text, giving Congress the power to decide.
It also is not down to the VP and cabinet. The 25th also allows for the alternative of such group as Congress may decide. Which it did before the 2020 election, creating a 25th Amendment Committee empowered to invoke the rule.
Biden's team should at least have the courage that every adult child of an elderly parent has. Metaphorically speaking, it's time to take the car keys away.
beardo: when trump said "they found 16 economists to say" he was referencing a report that came out a week before the debate "written"/endorsed by 16 nobel laureates that said trumps economic plan would lead to massive inflation
When LBJ did step in it pretty much was a coup...
Yes, the VP matters. Last night, Kamala Harris was loyal to her boss, but on Jan, 6, Mike Pence was loyal to the Constitution. A VP's ability and willingness to be loyal to the US Constitution (and by extension, the citizens) matters.
Pence is a traitor to the Constitution, what is your problem????
beard guy: "rubio needs to explain the evolution on character to serve w trump"
ME: *stares in kamala harris calling joe a racist, that litle girl on the bus was me joe*
Am I missing the joke? Why was the host rude to her two male guests immediately after introducing them?
This was very enjoyable to watch
Pretty sure Sarah never answered that guy's question about her tweet! What kind of feedback did you get??
It was a contest of the showman vs the slowman and you guys seem confused and disappointed by the result.
Who is currently running the Executive Branch?
Hilarious to see the freak out when you guys in the media are complicit
Like you, a lot of people stayed up until 3am after a he debate.
I remember seeing Strom Thurmond in the capitol being supported by two burly young men whose job was to prop him up and assist him in walking
You mean like Diane Feinstein? Was he the President of the United States?
I used to respect Hayes. Damn, he’s as far gone as Kristol.
Are we wish casting that Biden won’t be the nominee? While we are at it, can we replace Trump as well?
Trump is the greatest nominee ever. What is wrong with you? Are you so clueless? Omg, you are the problem.
@@spiritualhammer392 😂🤣😂 IKR
Why would we want to replace President Trump? Trump is going to be reelected in November.
@@dave0051 He was a very divisive and mediocre President who then folded like a cheap suit during Covid. He’s all bluster. He’s a terrible leader. He’s a demagogue and a con man. He’s exactly like what you’d think a silver spooned, New York real estate developer turned TV reality star would be. He’s too old. He lost every election except one. He’s a narcissist…
I could go on all day.
You don’t win by just beating the other guys. You win by succeeding. African Americans have been supporting the Democrats for decades because the Dems tell them they will beat the nasty Republicans. Well? You want to be supporting the Trumpsters 50 years from now and still angry? Winning doesn’t mean the Democrats lose. Winning is win America wins.
I don’t see a winner on the ballot, and I really wonder about the people who do.
"I'm sorry we had to had these two other guys in our conversation" (1:00:16) -- wow, sexist much? And if you don't think it's sexist, imagine the reaction to either of the guys saying "I'm sorry we had to have these two other gals in our conversation".
Sometimes **I** don’t know where my car’s parked!!
I have dreams where I endlessly search a massive parking lot for my car. Never had a problem in waking life.
Hail to the Cadaver In Chief 🫡🇺🇸
This whole panel is overly “terrified”.
A lot of cope and rationalization on this podcast.
McLaughlin for the win!
38:55 I don't want a pickle,
I just want a way to stop this trickle.
(Sorry, Arlo.)
Thank God for y’all, Dispatch peeps. This is so depressing - had we not your outfit available many of us would just tune out. It’s heavy. It’s years of it. It’s too much. But we cannot afford to tune it out or put it down; there’s serious work to do. In retrospect it will have been you guys and the David Frenches of the world that united purpose and motivation and morale in the conservatives and moderates and independents who are looking at the big picture and really seeing it. Thanks guys!!❤
MAGA
And if he had a cold.........................................................just delay the debate a week.
Trump wins again by accepting the debate. The Dems thought they were being cagey, and frankly, I thought maybe Trump was too rash in accepting. But once again, Trump's karma wins out. The biggest irony: CNN's format helped Trump, not Biden! LMAO!
if I was any bad guy, I would think now is the time to make some moves. If "now" is the president's primary job (I read Yuval's book, I know stuff) can we really be okay with this guy being commander in chief, not next year, but tomorrow? Despite what I heard last night, the president's job doesn't include giving people houses or abortions. But he is really in charge of the military, right?
Yeah, how nervous are the Taiwanese right now?
@@nunyabidness3075or Zelensky? Israel?
@julieraiNYC YES! This has been my repeated point. Is it 25th Amendment level, do we think?
Please everyone remain calm. Everything's going to work out just fine. #Trump2024
TDS has gone so far that these people will vote for a potato
Or a mashed potato.
@@ntran74 That's how terrible a person and what a danger that Trump is. A vegetable is, indeed, preferable.
Back when I was so much younger we used to talk about opposite day. I think instead of TDS, it’s the dear leader syndrome, where people will support the dear leader and claim everything is TDS because they are an unable or unwilling to live by the principles of being honest , objective and accurate.
Over someone dangerous and unfit? Yeah, the derangement is in the minds of anyone still willing to support the insurrectionist.
@@iMatti00 Trust me, no one thinks of Trump as dear leader including most of his supporters. That the TDS in you speaking. You’re just not that self aware.
You all have a lot of guts. You speak about Trump lying but you started out the podcast telling us how terrible it was that the public was lied to about Biden’s condition. History will say it was the biggest lie of the century.
January 6th committee did delete a ton of stuff
Of course they did, because they are afraid of the truth.
🤤 LMFAO. If that were true, than it sure makes it peculiar that the other members of his party didn’t handle this investigation the way they normally would. Why weren’t they on the committee steering the “truth” and making points as they saw fit? Because they couldn’t even bring themselves to spin for dear leader knowing what had happened on 6th of January.
The same party that had nine different committees investigate Clinton over Benghazi, which is supposed to be some horrible plot and the worst thing to happen in a decade, yet they didn’t feel necessary to investigate January 6.
Hmmm…
The Jan 6th committee was illegitimate. Nancy Pelosi did not let the Republicans pick members for the committee. Jan 6th was an inside job so the Uniparty wouldn't allow anyone to investigate what happened. So when Democrats lost the House they had to destroy the evidence.
I can't imagine how easy someone's life has been when they describe Trump's debate verbiage as "absolutely terrifying". Patrolling through Mosul or Haifa Street in Baghdad is scary. Trump saying that he is going to visit some lawfare on his opponents isn't even close. No wonder Steve Hayes and Kevin Williamson haven't run for office - it would be too frightening - and they would rather talk about the exploits of other men and women than do something tangible themselves.
With all due respect, my husband did patrol the streets of Baghdad, and he is beyond upset. Because he knows the milieu that leads to violence. Or makes us look weak and invites attack from the axis of nations - we all know who they are - that wish us harm. As Sarah said last night: world leaders watched that debate. We are in deep kimshe.
@@rockcreekx5 Hat tip to your husband. I greatly appreciate the support my wife gave me during my deployments and I am sure your husband feels an equal appreciation to you. Your response was too vague to divine its meaning. Which candidate leads to violence or perceptions of weakness abroad?
Calm down it’s all a game . Do you really believe that if Trump was as evil as they say and truly is tgis big threat to democracy . Would they be running a guy who’s 15 points lower than he was in 2020 and in the middle of serious cognitive decline? The only thing I do worry about , is that this might actually embolden our adversaries around the world.
Well Biden is old and befuddled, lets go ahead and elect Caligula.
Rename this podcast: The TDS Podcast.
Not sure what debate you guys watched. I thought Biden did pretty well. Anyway, the point is we finally beat Social Security. Victory!
Medicare. Pay attention
TRUMP 2024🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
You better hope they don’t change the candidates though. If the Democrats actually do the right thing and switch out Joe Biden for like maybe Governor Shapiro from PA. Trump could lose big. Then the debate would turn out to be equally as damaging to BOTH candidates.
If the Dems don't change candidate, yup. You win. Bigly.
@@pmac206 You must live in a blue bubble, Trump as 50% of the electorate locked, he can't lose the electoral college...it is not the person but the policies i.e. border, Ukraine etc.
41:15 All these things hes been charged with and not one of them was treason or anything related to a coup attempt. Youre just lying at this point 😂
Talk about major overreaction. These people are ridiculous. I watched Biden speak in North Carolina today and he was brilliant. These folks should try their hand at journalism someday.
He obviously has dementia. You can delude yourself all you want.