George Will Has 'No Inclination' to Vote | The Dispatch Podcast w/ Jamie Weinstein
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- Washington Post columnist George Will joins Jamie to discuss the Trump verdict, the state of American politics, Israel’s predicament, the influence of college campuses, foreign policy, and the future of the Republican Party.
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Criminally influence!
This man's political analysis is always skewed, back in the days when he was with David Brinkley I thought he was an intellectual hero but over the years he has disabused me of those positive considerations.
George will is an absolute moron
I once respected him. And then he called for Trump to be given the death penalty for treason , having colluded with Russia. On Trump’s third day in office! Whether or not one loves or despises Trump, what the hell kind of insane comment is that? Worse, he meant it. This is an arbiter of Constitutionalism? Of our justice system? Which it has since become.
The guy you want in power is the guy who'll respect the voters decision and get the hell out of there when the voters say so. Trump ain't that guy, therefore anybody with any kind of political chops whose willing to play by the rules, rather than rewrite them, is qualified in my view.
Who, Biden? Biden and Trump are the only ones running who have a chance of winning. Biden wrecked this country. Do you want more of him?
@johnnya867 So you think Biden is qualified? Hell of a job he's done the past 4 years. If he were in the private sector he'd have his ass handed to him day 1.
LOL…African Americans have been been saying this on and off for a century and a half…yet many died for the right to vote.
Pick one, George!!!
Yeah George but one party wanted to overthrow the election results.
1 party did.
Questioning election results is not the same as "overthrowing" them. Ask Hillary and Al Gore. And when election results do not pass the smell test, you have a duty to question them.
The Dems attempted to overthrow DT on the basis of their Russian Collusion Fabrication. And then interfered in the '20 election with their lie about and suppression of the laptop.
@@CaptZdq1
Crap
I learned a lot from George Will. Back in the 90's he wrote that good parenting is parenting against the culture. He was right then and today it is a no brainer but his was early detection of a serious problem. Thanks George.
The future does not belong to george will. Sadly, he has become an anachronism
I must agree with him We're screwed either way.
George Will always was a shallow pos. You gotta know he voted for Trump both times and watches Fox propaganda ministry. He’s pompous greedy and wrong.
George Will is not an honest man. His words always hide his true intentions or past actions.
He doesn’t think there should be campaign finance regulations? Ok, so basically an oligarchy like we have already, but without the window dressing.
When he said that. I was like then I would disagree with you.
I find the argument that all of this is free speech is true in the abstract but bankrupt practically: those who enjoy the good fortune to have more money should also enjoy more speech? Strikes me as profoundly anti-democratic.
Why? You do realize beyond a certain floor, campaign spending doesn’t seem to matter all that much? The Clintons couldn’t buy the White House even after they already lived there for 8 years.
People who have more money have nicer houses, cars, and vacations, too!
And better healthcare, too.
The free market isn’t perfect, it’s just the best.
How will there ever be equal speech? Some people are better communicators to start. Some are super charismatic. Some might pay people to speak for them while others might convince others to speak with them.
Hasn't this guy been wrong about everything for decades?
Such as?
Yes, I’m curious. I often disagree with him, but I’ve not found him to be unreasonable or foolish.
George F. Will's book The Conservative Sensibility is a great read. (Makes for a darn good audiobook, too.)
@@jakebarnes28Iraq war, torture, Enron, Supreme Court picks, Terri Schiavo… would you rather I go in alphabetical order?
@@profbaconI think we would like complete sentences so when you say how he was wrong, it can be pinned down instead of supported with nothing but argumentative BS.
I totally agree with George here regarding Ukraine.
Thats as bad as voting for Trump. It takes real entitlement to think we can afford to waste a vote or write in a protest vote.
Amen
And what if he does vote for Trump? He if ain't voting at all. He ain't voting for Trump. If he does vote, he very well could vote for Trump.
More not less finance restrictions need to be applied to elections....Enough crony capitalism...bring back governing 'by the people' !
Complaining that the electoral choice were it cars would be like being offered two Edsels is amusing. The complaint would be more compelling were it not coming from a Studebaker.
The biggest rake a way i get from this interview is George Will is two yrs older than Joe Biden. He seem 15 to 20 yrs younger.
Please vote, Mr. Will! Vote against Donald Trump by
voting for Joe Biden. We need you desperately to
set an example for others.
I admire you tremendously
but if thousands of people
don’t vote because they don’t like either party, we will have an unbalanced man, a very dangerous man, back in the White House. We simply
can’t afford to be naive about
what he is capable of.
As an economist, I question some of his economic analysis.
I agree with Mr. Will
A great discussion - thank you both! Like many, I’m not buying what’s on sale. Frustrating to see the main parties tear down our system for cheap gain.
Has no will to vote you mean.
It's George WillLess EVERYONE!
the crime : he concealed from the public damaging information and conspired to create false documents in that effort ....
Trump negotiated 130k NDA and paid out of his personal account. Clinton negotiated an 850k NDA and paid for it out of campaign finances. The former is illegal because he's a Republican. The latter is okay because he is a Democrat.
That makes 30 felonies? Covered up sex?
If ur refering to Trump, n it's clear as mud that u r, u know very well that the judge was a Democrat n has a daughter who runs a Get Trump campaign n made mlns. off of the guilty verdict, n that he instructed the jury they didn't have to be unanymous, which is illegal, that he didn't allow a witness who would have contradicted Michael Cohen, that Michael Cohen had already been convicted of perjury n had little credibility, that ther was no evidence against Trump, that it was a kangaroo cour, so it was illegal n unconstitutional n obvious political persecution, that it was a travesty of justice n a perversion of democracy, n that even leftists admitted it was but supported it bcz they oppose liberal democracy n r hypocrites.
I wish the discussion was more in depth. a lot of Will's comments sound more like sound bites rather than rigorous analysis
Love your podcasts, Jamie!!
AMERICA NEEDS A THIRD PARTY DESPERATELY.
R u saying you Americans can't vote for other presidential candidates bcz they have no party behind them? Hmmm. Why would they even run then?
@@CaptZdq1 As far as I understand there are 2 MAJORITY parties , DEMOCRAT and REPUBLICAN ( and INDEPENDENTS who select from the DEM or REPUB ) thus far NO other parties have been totally successful in winning the US PRESIDENCY. More than TWO MAJOR parties will have honesty advantages eg .as in setting up coalitions and /or withdrawing their support if they concluded it to be an advantage by replacing the governing majority party .
It's mathematically impossible due to a thing called Duverger's Law. Look it up, people.
No vote George? Then you voted for Trump. Thanks for nothing.
And that's why I won't vote either. Because of idiotic false binaries like yours. Also, did you even know the math doesn't even support your claim? I bet you didn't know that.
Voting for Trump is what the nation needs.
Trump performed, and achieved great results for citizens. This is undeniable. On the other hand ... idiot Joe Biden is incapable of doing a single thing competently. He won't control crime and illegal immigration, he supplied a shitty economy, and he has NO respect for the Constitution nor for the Bill of Rights. Any conservative citizens who shits on Trump only shits on the nation at large. This is unequivocally the absolute TRUTH -
If that's the attitude of the Democrats no wonder you lose to him. If you can't be better than garbage, don't blame George for not voting.
In the words of the great Herman Cain "Blame yo self."
@@KarlFreeman-fe1nd - Trump performed monumentally better than idiot Biden.
The difference is so HUGE that it seriously cannot be argued. Every single point is in Trump's favor, and very much AGAINST Biden, who can't do a single thing right -
And I ask: "Are Democrats really THIS stupid?" My answer ... "HELL YES!" They are.
And unequivocally so -
How dare you challenge him with mere facts?!
You impudent Realist! 😅
Netanyahu is obsessed with looking like a tough guy. In the process, he has lost my and many other people's respect
I am enjoying your podcasts Jamie. I love George Will, but didn't agree with him on a few issues!
You’re pretty damn forgiving, George.
I respect George Will’s opinions and perspectives on the political landscape
Listening to George Will is quite distressing. He seems to think that America’s justice system going after Trump is a political matter. If you don’t count the other cases, maybe, just maybe you could make that argument. But the other cases are slam dunk cases - Where is George’s mind?
Back in the 60s there were leftists and anti leftists. Just like in the 1930s there were either commies or nazis. George I suspect was an anti leftist. People seem to adopt a point of view then fight hard to retain it throughout their lives. I've been an FDR liberal my whole life and I'm 70. He was the last American statesman. Subsequent presidents have been increasingly disappointments. FDR was a patrician who thought of country first, not social class.
George Will is the most interesting observer of our current situation. ALWAYS interesting!!
Just not necessarily right. ;o)
It’s called “thought provoking”!
Compare him to Chris Hedges. 😊😅😢😂😮
This is how the Empire crumbles.
If Biden doesn't do a late-in-season Truman-LBJ abdication at the convention in August , what if instead he pulls an FDR '44? If this election becomes a selection of Vice Presidents as much as Presidents, then should we all be anticipating that Biden replaces Kamala Harris from the ticket the way FDR replaced Henry Wallace with Harry Truman? What if the scenario is Biden giving Kamala Harris an Attorney General position and the VP position then goes to someone like Gov. Wes Moore of Maryland?
What's the point of hearing George Will blather on about how inconsequential voting is. Kind of arrogant, and not a good role model for citizens to follow. Someone has to be voted President. NOT voting isn't a rational decision - it's actually irrational. He's angry. So he's being spiteful. Go away!
I wasn't planning on voting, but your right. That is irrational. I think I'll vote for Trump. I hope that's the one you like. If not, I don't care. I'm going to be rational and go vote.
No mention of RFK Jr?
Brainworms 🧠🐛
George represents the noblesse oblige waspocracy that founded this country. Meanwhile the worlds gotten colder and meaner in its politics and economics and smaller in its ruling elites but with a larger population that only now appears to shrink. International corporations and hedge funds do not spread largesse . World oligopolies are not democratic but more fascistic . They tell you through campaign finance laws what to think and who to vote for. The east west struggle is still over oil and gas and it hasnt changed since pre ww1. He can always write in hawley and maintain the puritan protestant ethos.
We must get to the place where we can actually have another choice than the two parties. Ranked choice voting would help as would getting rid of the electoral college. Perhaps then we could even make changes to our system that could even bring about some semblance of a Democracy instead of the mess we have now.
If GeoWil is trying to "equate" the Dems to the rumpers, (a false equivalency), then he's lost his ever lovin' mind and we've lost any/all respect ever held for such a kook.
Everyone should go vote, and they should only vote for candidates they find acceptable. It won’t take many people at all doing this to right the ship of state. Both parties will quickly run for the center once they realize that there’s a 5 or 10 percent bloc of voters who will only vote for responsible adults.
Combine that with not voting for incumbents when they haven’t achieved good things, and the clowns will all but disappear.
There are red snakes and blue snakes and little green snakes and other little snakes.. They're all poisonous and they all bite. Don't vote!!!
What responsible adults?
@@petercollingwood522 The ones who aren’t even going to run for office under the existing circumstances, but who might once there’s less competition from clowns and a different attitude among incumbents who feel pressured to work together rather than just “fight”.
@@nunyabidness3075 Well, that sounds great but I don't see much chance of it happening in reality. The US system and society as a whole breeds the clown show were stuck with now which sends responsible adults running for cover.
When there are only two candidates one is going to win whether you vote for one of them or not. Even if the majority of people just not vote for the president but vote other offices, one of these two will still win and you proved nothing. One of these candidates instigated a couple attempt and one hasn't. One candidate is working with other democratic world leaders and one says he won't. One candidate is not interfering when his own son is on trial and the other promises retribution against anyone who is against him. You can choose not to vote for either but one will still win. You should vote for the one who still believes in democracy.
Will - Eliminating forced debt for the middle class is lawlessness and prosecuting fraud from a billionaire is corruption. What a fool!
Lets "get back to health", George. Like not ignoring a famous Governor of California going all the way to Confederate Missisippi to launch his 1980 presidential campaign. But you signed up. Alongside Jerry Falwell.
The last of the moderate conservatives we are a dying breed .
The belittling of college students should be beneath you,George. Perhaps some of these unruly students have read Norman Finkelstein,s work or that of Ilan Pappe and actually know the history of the formation of Israel.
Sad to hear him puppeting the corporate media's assertion that the protestors are supporting Hamas. I've seen the worst of our foreign policy while serving in the military from 00 - 10. Any protest calling for peace and not sending taxpayer money to Israel is good with me.
He's basically a media guy at the end of the day, but yeah it's a bit disappointing to me as well
George Will refuses to see that the GOP is over, while engaging in just a slightly more sophisticated game of whataboutism. Face it, George, your party is only about fascism now, and deferring to talking about things you don't like about Biden in the effort to describe him as just as bad as Trump is just weird.
Uh, Biden is 100x WORSE than Trump. Biden is the fascist. Do you really not see it? Ignores the Supreme Court, quashes 1A rights and 2A rights, weaponizes the DOJ to go after his political opponents, tries to throw his opponents in jail... I suggest you go look in the dictionary for a definition of fascism. Trump is a saint compared to Biden -- and his presidency was 100x better.
100%
Both may be repulsive to him but one is a threat to our democracy and our national security.
George doesn't think Donald committed a crime because to rich people these things are not crimes. It's just how they usually do business.
George will and indeed, the whole world is surprised at how Biden weaponized the legal system to go after his opponent.
Vote RFK 2024 🕊️🌎
I'm with you George - I will e voting for state and local officials only this November.
That's fine. But you NEVER get to claim that you care about democracy or the rule of law, since you're showing you don't.
G Will do you really believe Trump will come to the aid of the Baltic States? Believe him, he already answered.
George Will's greatest fallacy is drawing an equivalence between Republicans and Democrats. Thats why I would hold my nose and vote for Trump and he won't.
“Holding your nose and voting for Trump” is the
same as choosing to
stay in denial about who
and what Trump really is.
There is no comparison
between Biden and Trump.
Trump has stated publicly
that he wants to be a
dictator over the United States of America. He wants
ultimate power. His minions
will support him in doing this.
Two party one Medaillon system
Is that a picture of Winston Churchill behind Jamie?
It was the worst case, but the only one that could be brought, no thanks to Merrick Garland. Oh well…..
The only one that Trump's judges couldn't delay until after the election.
Omg. Typical moral equivalency.
The students today are no more pro Hamas than my generation were pro Viet Cong! These straw dog assertions are so lame. In both cases the objection was and is to the astounding injustice, the disproportionate incidents of sttroticities that our country was and is supporting.
George Will sounds kind of intelligent but is insane
What about dead babies? Your failure to see them is a blindness, that makes you less valuable as a source for wisdom.
I thought the image on the upper right side was a book cover.
Can you believe us Americans have to pick between these two guys? We are better than this. Maybe we should protest
Vote? George Will? George won't. 🙁
Learn real policies, beliefs & character (now are many you tube interviews, podcasts etc.) Of RFK JR ! He seeks to bring integrity back into gov't...and heal the sick divide in our country....JFK JR. 2024 ! We need better than just 2 parties....their duopoly is ruining the country! Vote Independent !
He lost me. 'The democrats "sympathy for hammas". The college cancel culture, wokeness.' LITERALLY NONE of those things are being legislated. Israel gets all the money and bombs it could ask for. And cops are dragging protestors off camera to beat them in private. And frankly "wokeness" is just a bizzword for "things I don't like." I do not support the democrats, but damn, what weak critiques! He could've just as easily said, "they are weak and silly". And been closer to the truth.
Whenever I see or hear George Will I think of the word “ Oleaginous “ . I’m a word hack, and George used the most exacting word in context …
George Will, you need to get a grasp on the fallacy of false equivalents!
How do I reach host Weinstein on Messenger?
He was for the Iraq war. He was so wrong.
Effectively voting for Trump. If US democracy does fall as MAGA promises, Will can blame no one but himself; the history books, however, can certainly blame him
GW is lost. and a bad example. Don't be like George. Shame on him. Move to Ruzzia, dude.
Naughty bookkeeping , hmmm sounds harmless ...especially so far from an election ...
12:28 Woodrow Wilson's theme: czcams.com/video/KXVtpOHQqvY/video.htmlsi=uP2zd9egSXo79Ag7
Rino always has been one .who cares who you vote for.
The "MAGA STAIN" is an apt term.
Cop out
He's smarter than stupid jurors?
They spent weeks listening and didn't understand like he did from his armchair? Two of them were lawyers. And there can be no doubt that a moaning shaman with cow horns taking over congress swamps the national embarrassment scale. And one SOB did that. All legal tools should be applied with vigor.
It's an illegitimate conviction, a dishonest legal mashup, and it will be reversed.
Yes the jurors were stupid. But the judge was more stupid. And those political hacks that brought this bogus prosecution are even more stupid. It was just another exercise in lib-dem cancel culture.
@@bobtaylor170 It's not. And you have no authority or information to assert that it is.
@@hawkname1234 wait a minute, bub. When great legal analysts such as Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley say it is, I take them seriously.
"Voters' eloquent abstention": mark me down as unfortunately demonstrating that this next election. (Only on the Presidential question.)
That's a cop out. Whether you vote or not one of these guys will still win. You just won't have a say in which one. Everyone should vote for the one who actually believes in democracy.
@@marycullen2275 which one is that?
Then you never get to claim that you would protect your country, or care about democracy.
@@hawkname1234 my observation is that neither of these guys is about the country. Only about himself.
At first, I had decided not to vote in national elections. Then as I witnessed MAGAs justify Trump's every misdeed I became very alarmed and decided I would vote Republican in state & local elections and, with passionate reluctance, Democrat in the national elections. Now, listening to this, my calculation has changed. I will be following George Will's evolving opinion. If Trump surrounds himself with smart people in George Will's estimation, I will consider the election a wash and refrain from voting for Biden. Nothing short of a gun to my head would ever persuade me to vote for Donald Trump, the American Hugo Chavez.
It's a pipe dream that Trump will surround himself with smart people. Just look at the number of Trump people who have been convicted or disbarred or are under indictment.
Trump made the mistake of putting Mike Pence on his ticket. Pence turned out to be not reliable enough. Trump has learned from this. He will put only MAGA loyalists in positions of authority.
Did you actually write "Trump surrouns himself with smart people?!" You're kidding right?
@@petercollingwood522 haha, point well taken. Trump never intentionally does anything smart, unless you count a kind of lowgrade animal cunning as "smart" and that is an extremely blunt instrument, to put it mildly.
I’m MAGA and don’t agree with him 100% of the time. But I read and watched Mr. Will for decades and it’s great to see him again. He and Charles Krauthammer carried the conservative banner for many years.
MAGAT. Look what you have done and repent.
If you're MAGA you're not a conservative.
Contrary to what this man, who you are influenced in his opinions by belonging to the generation is, says, I don't think he can influence Trump in any decisive way. They would only be fired. Wasn't that why he had so many "acting" people because then it would be easier to fire them?
It was to avoid needing them to be vetted and approved by the proper channels in congress.
@@kayleedamsel4067 Yes.
That and there were no competent people stupid enough to work for him.
Does anyone give an eff what this self important dinosaur does or thinks?
Wow! The world is going to end
I agree that both candidates stink. I used to follow George Will but a few years ago I realized that he was completely out of touch with reality.
He has become a complete fool.
This is what happens when campaign finance pays for President m. It should be corrected in politics
The non trump trumper .
If we don’t change our ways, there will be no 2028
A bit dramatic
This is all true, but it doesn't solve anything. There is only one way out: Elect Mitt Romney President.
Well Trump is the 😊😊😊
Trump has held since his candidacy in 2016 that he would not support any election results where he did not win. That is system breaking. Even were he the best candidate to ever exist, I would not vote him for that one reason.
and trump along with millions of gop/maga/w-supremacist traitors are parroting this nonsensical bull-crap.
Most, if not all of the votes in states being challenged as "stealing;" are non-white. (visitor)
I will always respect George (and the Dispatch) for failing to sell their souls in order to grasp on to power. However, I find that by equating Biden and Trump like this, they are giving a permission structure to others to vote again for Trump. They need to take the final (yes, difficult) step and say that, due to the existential threat posed by Trump, they have to vote for Biden, as much as they hate his politics. THAT would be true moral courage.
Anyone voting for Trump or Biden doesn’t need an excuse. They are most likely obsessed with either partisanship or hatred. At any rate, no one in MAGA world cares what George Will thinks about them. Anyone holding their nose and voting is simply not smart enough to realize they are part of the problem. We’ll have to forgive them.
You have to prove that "existential threat" first, and all I hear is your assuming it as a given. Will doesn't believe it. He's informed. Make your arguments.
@@AslansMane88 Have you read Project 2025? No seriously, most conservatives seem to be burying their heads in the sand about this. Have you read it?
I respect Mr. Will, but he’s twisting himself in intellectual knots to equate both candidates. “Dont vote for Biden because of 19 year old anti-Israel protestors who hate Biden” is not clean logic.
Biden is worse as President though. Stop buying the grift. Stop voting for the lesser evil, vote for neither, and the parties will race to the center.
Both parties are completely lost !
The ends dictated the tatics in WW2 80 years ago. Does that mean that the US must support those tactics?
This old RINO is still around...I would have thought he went extinct years ago 🦏 🦏 🦏 😂 😂 😂
Few Democrats are sympathetic to Hamas, however, there are many who see the errors of the Netanyahu administration poorly running the operation in Gaza.
I agree. George Will is completely wrong to say that.
Obviously a lie.
We have two choices in this election. Autocracy or democracy.
@jessicafalstein One -party Democrat totalitarian rule is NOT "democracy."
Neither are a good option. America was founded as a Constitutional Republic. We are based on the rule of law, not the rule of one man or the rule of the majority.
I’m so sad that there’s so many fundamental misunderstandings about what is going on.
You'll end up with democracy whoever you vote for. It's so ludicrous to say things like this.
@@tconthejazz1I don't know about that.I get the impression that Americans really don't care anymore.Whatever system of government allows them to rub a few more nickels in their pockets.Plus the fact if they have to sacrifice their right to vote if it means that the people they hate no longer have the right to vote.
As far as Trump lowering the tone of political discourse, the tone of all discourse has been lowered. Ieadf one is looking for decency in our present culture, better not go to the movies, read modern novels or listen to today's music.
George Will doesn't matter. It's Trump's turn!
I once again agree with Will. Both parties stink.
Coward.
Not to vote is an opinion, but it is the wrong one. We still have to live in this country and in this world and depending on who is in the White House we could have a miserable life and the world on the fire or we could have reasonable administration with reasonable measures to improve Americans lives and to stop those raging wars. When you do not vote you, like Pontius Pilatus, wash your hands in the critical situation. There is also an option to vote against. I will vote against Biden and Kamala Harris and their incompetent administration.
and you will help install a guy who is totally off his trolley, supported by far right extremists, who will increase the debt hugely like he did before , who mangled the response to the pandemic, who has plans to ditch any plans to combat climate change, to develop infrastructure, will abandon Ukraine to its fate and allow Russian expansionism, who will further strip women of their reproductive rights, who is going totally disrupt agriculture and the building industry by rounding up 11 million people who pay 80 billion in taxes a year and draw virtually nothing back in return and who will probably destroy NATO. But I suppose you support all of that .
I wasn't going to vote. But your right its the wrong opinion. Thanks for helping, I will be voting Biden come November.
Trump vs Biden. A choice of cancer or polio.
Well stated !
I would say Pancreatic cancer,and Stage four lung cancer .
Fortunately for President Biden there's a vaccine and a cure for polio. Not so true with Trump's cancer so your analogy does work.
@@albertgrant1017 I must admit that it is a line from "Salt of the Earth" by the Rolling Stones
I think its more like, AIDS or Herpes. Trump being AIDS.
He's such a bore. This isn't 1970, George.
Will calls leftists progressives🤣.