20 Strong Review: Do These Dice Even Lift, Bro?

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
  • Milla, Mike, and Zee discuss their thoughts on 20 Strong, both as a game and as an expandable, dice-driven system.
    0:00 Intro
    1:22 Overview
    10:55 Review
    19:41 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 48

  • @Tenebyss
    @Tenebyss Před 16 dny +53

    Opening graphic shows Catan, not 20 strong

    • @valzalel5203
      @valzalel5203 Před 15 dny +3

      20 starfarers strong

    • @lseeley
      @lseeley Před 15 dny +2

      Hah, good to know I didn't hallucinate that!

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Před dnem

      It is the stand alone multiplayer expansion that doesn't require anything from the original game.

  • @Noel_Maymes
    @Noel_Maymes Před 16 dny +5

    I’m really excited for the next campaign of 20strong with Manny Trembley’s art.

  • @spencerpalmer2918
    @spencerpalmer2918 Před 15 dny +2

    I was exactly the person Mike described. I'm interested in Chip Theory Games' games but have been apprehensive about buying one of the large games. I bought this almost on a whim from my friendly local game store, only knowing it was a solo game by CTG. I've only played Solar Sentinels once so far and have enjoyed it.

  • @thegamesninja3119
    @thegamesninja3119 Před dnem

    I found that I had to move the bits and sets to a new box, with the original run. There was a smell with them of gasoline. Using dish soap to wash the dice and dial (dried out after), and putting the cards in a container with a drier sheet, seemed to fix the issue. I want to thank BGG forum for this solution. This is in addition to the airing everything out.
    It is a shame about the box though, because it is a really good box. The felt liner in it is a stink sink that held the smell.
    I hope future runs fix this issue.

  • @cesar1998410
    @cesar1998410 Před 16 dny +5

    Is that a new dice tower seal of excellence logo/art? Looks good!

  • @brianmattei7134
    @brianmattei7134 Před 15 dny +1

    Yeah just commenting here saying that the game/system is great. Hoplomachus deck ESPECIALLY. So, so much content in that Hoplomachus deck considering how different each end boss is.
    Solar Sentinels has the least variety out of all of them, but it's also much breezier than the Hoplomachus deck and easier to just jam a game.
    It's so good, kudos to Chip Theory truly.

  • @BoardGameHype
    @BoardGameHype Před 15 dny +2

    20 strong catan lol now I would get that. Smooth editing though!

  • @azizmandar
    @azizmandar Před 16 dny +2

    Sounds like the issues are similar to the TMB issues. If it's as fun then maybe the TMB crowd will be fine with them. Lose on turn one or know you are not likely to win due to bad luck.

  • @stormy7722
    @stormy7722 Před 12 dny

    WOW haven't watched a DT vid since 2023 cruise. BIG changes!! Things sure have grown!!!!!

  • @alexstrang9823
    @alexstrang9823 Před 12 dny +1

    experience comparison between this and One Deck Dungeon?

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Před dnem

      Both are dice chucky. One Deck one grows the dice pool used to get stronger. With 20 Strong, one uses other modifiers with a fixed pool.

  • @maxpower8973
    @maxpower8973 Před 15 dny +1

    They've learned to edit Mike in much more naturally from the Dice Tower Midwest Annex.

  • @rawkyle9385
    @rawkyle9385 Před 13 dny

    20 Strong: Catan reveal?

  • @Theplaysthet
    @Theplaysthet Před 16 dny +6

    I felt the opposite. Thru all felt VERY samey but I agree the bad dive luck felt crippling. I played it A few times but was left cold. No more than a 6. Great production values of course!

    • @goldsmeeth2771
      @goldsmeeth2771 Před 15 dny

      Same feelings, but keep in mind the value. Because the cost is low, it was fair deal for only a few plays.

    • @Theplaysthet
      @Theplaysthet Před 15 dny

      @@goldsmeeth2771 weeeeeeell I didn’t enjoy those plays tremendously. But I do take ur point!

    • @brianmattei7134
      @brianmattei7134 Před 15 dny

      Absolutely wild take considering how different the Hoplomachus deck is from the Solar Sentinels deck lol

    • @Theplaysthet
      @Theplaysthet Před 14 dny

      @@brianmattei7134 Weeeeeell I don't think its that 'absolutely wild' honestly. You roll dice. You roll dice. You roll dice....

    • @brianmattei7134
      @brianmattei7134 Před 14 dny

      @@Theplaysthet Yeah every game seems stupid when you reduce it down to its most basic elements.

  • @vincentgaliano
    @vincentgaliano Před 16 dny +13

    The rumor says the next Chip Theory game will be one die and one card, and it will cost $500.

  • @Julian_t_x
    @Julian_t_x Před 15 dny +2

    DT, what up? Wrong game picture, no CZcams chapters, no Mike thumbnail..

  • @Dratio
    @Dratio Před 16 dny

    Feels a bit wierd giving a current rating base on future promise

  • @truzer0211
    @truzer0211 Před 14 dny

    I bought this game in the hopes of enjoying it. Man it did not hit for me at all

  • @brandonpasak2910
    @brandonpasak2910 Před 16 dny +6

    It took me almost 6 weeks just to get the awful chemical smell out of the components before i could even play it. Never had such horrible smelling components.

    • @GeeEmm81
      @GeeEmm81 Před 15 dny +1

      Thought it was just my copy, lol.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Před dnem

      I washed the dice with dish soap and put everything in a new box. The gasoline smell gets absorbed into the felt liner of the box.
      Wash the dice, store the original Rulebook in with drier sheets, and then move everything to a new box.

  • @DeltaDemon1
    @DeltaDemon1 Před 16 dny +4

    Yeah, but at 50$+ for the base game and 30$+ for each expansion, it's a pass. Way too expensive.

    • @boomgolf
      @boomgolf Před 16 dny +5

      It’s $30 for the base game on their website…

    • @Noel_Maymes
      @Noel_Maymes Před 15 dny

      Yeah I regularly see 20 strong at 50-60€ with all decks included and base game for around 30. And CTG games tend to be more expensive in europe.

    • @DeltaDemon1
      @DeltaDemon1 Před 15 dny

      @@boomgolf 30$ US, which means 40$ CDN and add 10 to 15$ shipping, US, that ends up being 50$ to 55$ CDN plus there's the import charges.

  • @larrylazer
    @larrylazer Před 16 dny +4

    This sounds a lot like One Deck Dungeon. Almost a bit too much. 😕

    • @CamObscura88
      @CamObscura88 Před 16 dny +2

      It feels very very different. One Deck Dungeon is a dice puzzle where 20 Strong is more of a resource and push your luck game. On the surface, sure, but they feel different.

    • @KnockOneOutYT
      @KnockOneOutYT Před 16 dny

      ​@@CamObscura88 Do you think one is better than the other? I enjoy One Deck Dungeon.

    • @CamObscura88
      @CamObscura88 Před 16 dny

      @@KnockOneOutYT I think 20 Strong is a better game that has more variation and excitement, but it’s much harder and less forgiving. I feel like One Deck Dungeon is much easier and so sometimes it’s nice to have that breeziness.

    • @larrylazer
      @larrylazer Před 16 dny +1

      @@KnockOneOutYT I prefer One Deck Dungeon.

    • @jacobstein5678
      @jacobstein5678 Před 16 dny +2

      I fully prefer 20 strong. I feel the decision space is much higher on 20 strong and the variation game to game higher. One deck dungeon always feels samey and like there are less areas for me to manipulate for style/strategy.

  • @lickjoe79
    @lickjoe79 Před 16 dny +2

    Upcoming cloudspire campaign will have a 20 strong cloudspire deck.

    • @koalabrownie
      @koalabrownie Před 15 dny

      When is that dropping?

    • @lickjoe79
      @lickjoe79 Před 13 dny +1

      @@koalabrownie they haven’t given a date yet that I’ve seen.