Intel 11th Gen Tiger Lake - Review & Benchmarks feat. Dell XPS 9310
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Here it is! My first look and detailed review of Tiger Lake. Intel's 11th Generation processor (also known as EVO). Will it live up to the hype? Are the integrated graphics as good as claimed? Let's find out. So grab some popcorn and enjoy the show!
-- Please note, I now get a Cinebench R20 Multicore score of ~1,800 with Dell's newer BIOS
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This is an important review, thanks -- as usual, these companies are not telling the whole story
What is the point of making powerful CPUs for ultrabooks that run like a toaster and consume power like a washing machine?
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Not to mention the minimum price of $1,000 ... AMD has more raw performance at almost half the price
Because Intel.
My office issued i7 laptop runs slower than the office issued i5 counterpart model due to throttling - HP probook. And this costs 1800USD!
It is not b/c of intel its dell controlling method
Hey Josh, would you consider projecting the detailed info (e.g. "This laptop has Intel blah blah, 16GB RAM, and 250GB nvme storage" etc.) on the screen when you are mentioning it?
It is much better to see the basics on the screen. Thanks in advance.
Yes please!
I strongly agree
@@estebanguerrero682 I don't think it's up for sale yet. It's perhaps an engineering model, just to showcase the performance of the Tiger Lake chips
While that does seem like a good idea on paper, lenses and cameras are different althroughout. So it might show artifacts when it does.
Yes Please!!!
Looking good, Josh. The new setup is a definite win.
Thanks Paul
i really love the simplicity of your footages, nothing unnecessary, just focusing on the reviewed product, cheers!
Thanks for actually putting out real numbers instead of only GeekBench scores. Seeing the i5 Macbook still right up there with other small notebooks is great. Picked one up after seeing your recommendation and review.
Couldn't wait for the new ARM Macbooks due to needing a laptop for uni, so I ended up getting a 13 inch 10th gen Macbook and I couldn't be happier. it's built way better than the HP and the Acers I briefly used and the screen is excellent.
It's good to see dell put out the 11th gen chips out so quick but I would be very wary of getting a Dell seeing their screw ups with the XPS 15 and 17.
I was considering one of these after returning a 2nd faulty Acer, but after seeing how slow Dell's support also was when I had a few queries I decided to avoid. Go on the Dell subreddit all you end up reading about are faults after faults which is not something I want to be dealing with.
I also don't get why they didn't make the 4k panel capable of 100% DCI P3, 90% doesn't make any sense if you want to do any photo or video editing on the go.
I'm not sure what the support experience is like in other countries, but in the UK Dell and Acer are both bad, and there's a high chance you'll have to reach out to them if you buy one of their devices.
Also as an extra note, Anyone thinking of getting an Acer in the UK, I would avoid like the plague. They sent me 2 faulty devices in a row, you have to wait on hold for 45 minutes + just to get some help, and they often ignore emails. The ConceptD 7 is built terribly as well. Both models I received had bad backlight bleed which is awful for a device apparently made for creators.
yessss arm MacBooks will probably blow intel out
Weird off-topic question, did you comment on a Ni no kuni video before? If so then damn mate, I never thought I'd see you here
So many tests on so many laptops. Great job man, looks like really hard work.
Please review the dell inspiron 14 7000 tiger lake model which is basically the same as dell xps for less in a slightly cheaper build but everything integral is still there with 16:10, thunderbolt 4 and fast ram 4267mhz. Because I want a laptop with alike qualities towards the xps but I don't want to pay so much more.
I waited so much for ur vids about this specific laptop
Thanks for a great review once again, on my birthday too!
Great video josh,thanks for the info and dedication you have shown time and time again...take care be safe and may your needs be met when needed and don't forget to lend a hand to those in need when you can....
Absolutely best Laptop Tech CZcamsr out there. Your professional in depth reviews are absolutely great, thank you for not suggarcoating anything and instead getting straight to the point!
First time seeing your vids on YT and I absolutely loved how you presented this one. Detailed, eloquent and honest. #subscribed
Your work is absolutely impeccable, very objective and straight forward, yet very simple. Keep it up Josh!
Thanks I appreciate it
All intel did with 11th gen is that they pushed more power to cpu to get better single core performance but is of no use, cpu can't handle that much power for longer durations
Another excellent review. He really packs in the information so to get the best out the review you have to watch it more than once. Brilliant!
Thumbs up for "content loudness: -0.1dB"
They really fooled us with their smooth Battlefield 5 demo
@Shining Star are you drunk
Great work Josh. I really appreciate all the effort you put into your videos and your unbiased reviews.
All the best with your CZcams channel.
Kind Regards from Wollongong Australia.
More videos like these. Thorough, fast-paced, just the right amount of technical detail. Well done sir
Really disappointed in the performance of the new chip in this laptop. I was waiting to buy one until seeing reviews. Glad I waited!
Don't get fooled by Intel's marketing materials where they always hugely glorify their inferior products and give mouthful of architecture name. This has same architecture as in Ice lake but can run faster due to mature 10nm fabrication, hence the better single threaded performance. They did add a bigger GPU die but as Josh suggested, while running GPU heavy tasks, the cpu gets power throttled and can't reach the full speed, resulting degraded performance, even compared to Ice Lake.
Just wait for a laptop that can qctually hqndle the thermals. Dont judge based off one laptop
@@alexanderschulte8248 There are reviews of thee laptops already...New Swift 3, Asus Zenbook 14 and Zenbook Flip 13 and all are having exact issues described in this review. XPS is considered the highest end Windows 13 inch Ultrabook and that suffers too. If you consider properly cooled IdeaPad Slim 7 with 4800u then the multi threaded performance reaches the level of within 15% of 8 core i7-10875H. You have to check the overall performance across the board, not by picking up the laptop with best thermal solutions. If you do that for AMD too, it gives an altogether performance of a different league. IdeaPad 5 14 is a 3 lbs laptop costs less than half of XPS 13 and even the 4500u was able to outperform 1165G7 in cpu benchmarks, not really looking good.
What is the difference of evo and core tigerlake cpus ???
@@cryptotommy1008 Evo is like an Ultrabook check list from Intel. Need to use 11th gen chip, fast boot time, slim bezel, long battery life, yadayada etc.
This was a great informative video! Amazing charts and data. Good job!
Excellent review; loving the new studio setup!
Thanks!
Great review! Great help for all. I Subscribed and will be watching. Keep up the great work! Very detailed, love it.
Thanks for the comparison review! Great job it’s helping very much,
So fast! thanks for your effort!
holy cow! I can watch this video in 2160p. Your videos are amazing! I like and try to like every video of yours trying to get your videos on more people’s feeds for you get the attention you deserve!
You are a legend!
Well done Josh 👍
Subscribed!
Thank you for this awesome review-did not even know you could get these chips! I had my doubts whether 11th gen will be as good as they anounced it, but wow. Really happy i persisted in getting ryzen 4000 series :)
Heck yeah! Never expected this today 😀. You ACTUALLY made my day!
Its weird. I think there is a setting that is off or something. Someone else did a similar review of the same laptop with the same specs. And his firestrike scores are much higher than what is shown in your video. 6:20
Your scores: 3329, 3821. and 8139
His scores: 4892, 5342, and 11688
czcams.com/video/9lIqAW4wcOs/video.html
Nice
CineBench R20.060
This : 1541
His: 2033
Mine: 1941 (on battery..)
@@jurgenvolkerink3019 same Laptop?
@@adrianrabe2099 9310 i7 16gb 1tb uhd
i5 1135G7 on MaxTech,
i7 1165G7 on Josh's.
If I'm being honest I missed the old living room setting reviews but you are still in the process of moving. I do however welcome back these videos
this is one of your best videos yet
love ur work , the most underrated tech tuber
Thanks mate!
Lame how you can only get premium laptops with intel.
Not any more bro.
czcams.com/video/mhHOpWFNq68/video.html
It’s only dell who are being bastards
@@jay-5061 Decent choices but still far from premium
@@eRadicant they're a step in the right direction. Personally I'll take HP's approach of cautiously investing in AMD without ruining the reputation of their flagships (AMD has insane stock issues which make them unreliable for high end products) over the budget crap everyone else is doing
In Germany u get the dell inspirion 5000 with i5 11. Gen for 700 and i7 for 900 euros, is that Premium?
@@adrianrabe2099 the inspiron series is trash. Buy an HP envy laptop for the same money it will have better build quality and performance and quality control
Goat of Laptop Reviews for me, Thank you for your work👍
I was eagerly waiting for your review
This was v informative and well done. Subscribed. 👍👍
Many questions answered. Thanx Josh! :)
Do you think this'll stand a chance when compared to the latest gen AMD processors (i.e. the 5000 series)? And how long is it before laptops start to roll out with the latest AMD chips?
Hey Josh, Thanks for the timely review! it's much appreciated! Quick question, how's the batter life with the 4k screen and 11th gen processor? Not sure you mentioned that in the vid :p
I didn't actually as I was going to talk about it in my review of the laptop itself. I am travelling with the laptop on a the weekend, so i'll let you know
@@JustJoshTech oh fantastic I see! thanks a ton buddy ❤❤
I see...thanks for this review, Josh! I was being very hopeful for this processor, but I see where it will shine and will not, because of your video. Keep up the good work!
Was there a battery test in this comparison video? Will you also run a battery test of each laptop against the number of benchmarks made? It wasn't clear but it sounds like these laptops were all plugged in when running the tests.
I think 11th gen is supposed to feature some pretty nifty battery performance modes. How about 4K video playback tests? I think one of the new features Intel is pushing is that 11th gen can playback 4K smoothly compared before.
Found a nice article featuring battery performance on tiger lake =) looks very good.
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source article: www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-11th-gen-tiger-lake-superfin-10nm-benchmarks
Thanks for your exhaustive review, great job!!!
Great review, super helpful!! How do you think these benchmarks would change with the more RAM, i.e. 32GB? That seems to be an option now for the XPS 9310.
It's got nothing on AMD still. Great Review, keep it up. I am disappointed that intel is falling behind.
Thanks
thorough, honest and to the point, very nicely done
Just wondering, could you lower the TDP for turbo so that it indirectly lower the temperature and indirectly prevent it from getting thermal throttle?
Fantastic review josh!
HAPPY FRIDAY!!! You earned it!
very detailed thank you!
Thanks man I was going to buy it
Hi bro , thanks for your time in this platform.
Me too.. I was just waiting for some review..
What are you going to do now? I’m thinking about buying last years model
@@shakealhuggins4387 why last year? Check the price difference with this year's model
@@sachinrawat5491 I want to buy it used if I can get a 500-600 discount. Otherwise I would just buy new :) Or maybe even a MacBook 🤔
Thanks for honest review!
Would love if you did a review on the 2 in 1 version of this
Great video Josh, thank you!
Great job as usual!
Great video as usual.
You head about the lenovo ideapad/yoga slim 7? Looks like a really good budget laptop. I was wondering if you are going to review it? thanks.
Yeah ! Its a very good laptop with the 4800u
He already reviewed the yoga slim 7 :)
@@boblwer3 i dont see his rewiew
I have it, trust me you will not regret
@@xseba3117 😄👌
Any way to adjust TDP to 25W to have a head-to-head comparison with the Ice Lake version?
Excellent review as always Josh, and really surprising results! You certainly put it through it's paces and gave it every chance to live up to the hype. Studio is looking and sounding great btw.
Thanks mate! Its been working setting it up but its starting to get there!
Thank you for this video, Josh! I have a question:
USB4 comes in 2 different speeds: USB4 20 Gbps & USB4 40 Gbps. When Intel says Tiger Lake's Thunderbolt 4 includes USB4, does this necessarily mean that all Thunderbolt 4 ports include support for USB4 40 Gbps? Or can the manufacturer choose to only support USB4 20 Gbps? In other words, is it possible to come across a Thunderbolt 4 port that, while supporting Thunderbolt 4 devices at 40 Gbps, only supports USB4 devices at a maximum of 20 Gbps? Or is that not an option under the Thunderbolt 4 certification?
Wow I didn't expect this with all the intel marketing. Excellent review Josh!
Great review! Very reliable, has a lot of tests and benchmarks with comparison to other laptops. Also has some coding stuff, which other reviewers usually don't cover. I appreciated it a lot 🙂
Good review. Disappointed on the performance. I held out on getting ice lake for tiger lake. How’s battery life? Was there a battery life comparison?
what a professional and honest review - thanks a lot
Received mine yesterday (i7/uhd/16gb/1tb). Fully updated, with latest Intel drivers.
Cinebench R20.060 => You list 1541, but I get 25% better results: 1941 / 533
Optimized, on Battery, Power slider "best performance", Bios 1.0.3.
My machine in a cool room, 5 min idle prior to running tests.
good for you
I also have this but the 2-in-1 version. The interesting part is that Cinebench scores for me vary from 1400 up to 2000 (with latest BIOS 1.1.1). Sometimes the power envelope falls to 12w unnecessarily as the CPU temps are around 50C. Weird. Definitely Dell needs to work more on the BIOS power curves.
Awesome review. Thanks!
Subscribed.
Waiting for the 5800h and 5800u.
you make excellent reviews
Which laptop would you recommend for someone who would mainly use it for CAD, electronic and digital circuit design
Hi josh!
Can you please review the surface laptop go?
Let’s be honest you’re the definition of a perfect reviewer. Straight to the point and don’t ramble on, covering everything we need to know and not missing anything. Love your videos man!
Thanks heaps!
Here-here.
Damn Josh!!! Your reviews are AMAZING!!! Great job!!! That is the nicest and most direct way I’ve ever heard someone tell me that a laptop sucks. 👍🏻
Just as I thought. “EVOlutionary is not revolutionary” with Tigerlake. At least with this new Dell XPS. Disappointing.
Unfortunately its not only Dell XPS. Notebookcheck tested recently zenbook with Tiger Lake. It was really underwhelming that after all that hype Intel created in 12 games new Iris iGPU beats Vega 8 from Yoga Slim7 only in 3 games... I'm done with intel products. Not only worse , but they are lying to us, their clients.
@@JBarezIFQ You are wrong Xe Graphcis are 2X as fast as Gen 11. You should watch other laptop reviews because Dell fked up the power management, you can cleary see that Optimized mode is performing better than Ultra mode 3:27
@@JBarezIFQ And about notebook check's Zenbook review, The CPU is running at 12W rather than 15W or 28W.
@@ahsanqureshi786 i agree with you
Since Ryzen mobile was launch in CES this year, hopefully Amd will launch another on in CES next year with their own Rdna 2 graphic as well. Rdna 2 sounds really power efficient, it will do well in laptop.
Can you review new honor matebook 14 with ryzen 4000 H processors, I am wondering why they use H series instead of u series in ultrabook and what's effects on performance ,cooling and battery life.
Hey Josh, I currently have a 5th gen X1 Carbon that I've had for years that I use for programming. Will the X1 Nano be a good upgrade or is it marginal and a waste of money?
Will this processor most likely be in the 2021 refresh of the dell xps 15? Thanks!
You're a legend Josh! I have been considering getting the Metabox Flo (Clevo reskin) for my next daily driver, but was held back by the U series 10th gen chips they used, but they've just released a version running the 1165G7 chip, and it's even got TB4.
I don't need hardcore dedicated graphics when I'm on the road, so I feel like this may be my next laptop, provided Microsoft doesn't announce a Surface Laptop 4 running Ryzen 4k chips.
I've been looking for a new heater for the following winter and at around $2k this looks like a good choice!
I’m new to this stuff. Is this going to come to XPS 15/17 with dedicated graphics card and would it make any difference ?
Excellent review. I think I'll hold off on upgrading from the 10th gen xps 13 until performance is sorted.
Excellent review!
Thanks!
I'm getting a Thinkpad X13/T14s in a few days/weeks. Is the Ryzen 4500U the best choice? Or do you guys should I wait for some Tiger Lake update with Xe graphics?
SUPER intresting info! Thanks for going through this so thoroughly. If it would have been the leap forward Intel claimed I would have been a bit surprised. Hope there will be other units that do better later on in the fall so there is some competition for Ryzen, since they are so darn hard to buy in most cases...
hi, could you confirm if the charger works on both usb type-c ports? how to deal with connecting monitor, mouse, keyboard, external drive, etc. in a long day? Could you replace the 512GB or you can only add more space?
Fantastic video!!!
Does anyone know how this would compare with the 11th gen for the new dell xps 13 2 in 1 as opposed to the standard clamshell these tests were on? I ask because I heard the 2 in 1 has an improved cooling system over the regular variant. Thanks :)
hey josh , really loving your video , i havent seen you reviewing any huawei laptop , can you review the matebook 14 2020 with amd ?? i think that laptop was really good with 4000 ryzen series and 3:2 resolution with just reasonable price
Hi Josh is the xps 2 in 1 with vapor chamber performs better with this new cpu thank u :)
What version of Premiere you using? Since updating to the latest 2020 I have seen way better results with my ryzen laptop with integrated graphics
Im on the latest with all the latest AMD drivers as well
This channel needs more attention. He knows what a review should be. You have my sub. Most other channels don't have decent comparisons for me to make a buying decision.
Can you test and compare 15,6" Envy x360 (4700U) to your Omen, please? I know the Omen is more powerful but it would be interesting to see how much and if the 15,6" display in Envy x360 is much better than the Omen's display.
What do you think about asus g14 base variant for programming? Don't necessarily need a gpu but can't seem to find lenovo ThinkPad e14 gen 2 or t14 gen 1 in stock. Also the display seems to be better on g14.
Hi Josh, could you compare xps 17 2020 against up envy 15 2020.
Hey Josh, have you tested a ryzen based laptop with LPDDR4X memory yet?
Thank you, very good review, much more reasoned and detailed than other reviewers' (perhaps just a bit too fast spoken, at least for me whose mother-language is not english). BTW, I suspect we'll have to get hands on other implementations from other vendors or other laptos from Dell itself to fully understand the potential of the 11th generation Intel processor with the Xe Iris graphics and fully compare it to the AMD ryzen. Perhaps, the xps 9310 is simply a not enough mature design
Subscribed! Nice video!
Hello! Will you be reviewing the lenovo ideapad slim 7 gtx 1650/ lenovo yoga creator 7 (they have different names in the us/Europe)? I really find your content helpful!
Perhaps there will be a more noticeable difference when paired with dedicated graphics cards?
A good review but why there is no table with FPS scores for games?
Commenting for the algorithm, great video!
Can you give some advice on whether entry-level GPUs like the MX450 is a good addition to an intel 11th gen i5 or i7 G7 processor, or is it mostly redundant and consumes too much power for just a little performance boost?
Really appreciate your hard work 🙂
Thanks mate!