Fail or Flying Colors...? The 100k Service for my Porsche 911
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2021
- My Porsche 911 recently passed a pretty significant milestone.... 100,000 miles! I picked up this 991 approximately 18 months ago from California when it had 92k miles on the clock. Right now I’m sitting around 103k miles so it was more than time for me to take it in to Porsche Minneapolis for it’s first 6-digit major service. So many people sell their cars before they hit 100k miles, for fear of major issues or an extra dent in the car’s value... it’s not necessarily the case.
In this video I talk through what to expect in a 911’s 100,000 mile service and of course, share the results with you all!
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It is awesome to see a 911 not sitting in a garage and actually being driven past 100k miles, well done james
Cheers
Easy to do when it is your daily driver and 100,000 miles is nothing. We are not in the 1960s anymore.
Germans are meant to be driven & 911 is best amongst. People buy them to drive daily or maybe for road trips.
@@rohitbishoyi9095 Actually, you can do anything you want with it except winter drive it when you have a substantial amount of snow on the road. Long term and I have kept cars for 16 years from new, reliability goes to a Japanese car.
@@a.c.e.7568 yep even nowadays people drive their Ferrari’s regularly.
@@rohitbishoyi9095 Going to Autotrader and I go there to look at pics of nice Ferraris, seeing one with 50,000 or 100,000 is ultra-rare. Most of them are parked because they are impractical. Someone I know in Italy, who is born in Italy, owned an auto parts store once told me in Italian "Ferraris are beautiful to look at, but if you want a real sports car, buy a Porsche". So I did and now own two 911s.
My favourite type of Porsche owner - not afraid to rack up the miles. This is what owning a car is all about. I hope you will keep this car for at least 10 years. Would love to hear your report on it.
Thank you!!
@@AutoAmateur I finally got my 911 - a 2015 991.1 C4S three weeks ago. I'm absolutely ecstatic.
@@std882 Congratulations! That's awesome!! If you need wireless Apple CarPlay or AndroidAuto for your PCM, you know who to hit up!! :-) Enjoy. Congrats again.
'The upgrades I have done have kept it fresh and modern looking'
Is modern the word we are looking for??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hate you. 🙄😘
991.1 will be a timeless classic. I own a 991.1 targa gts manual and 997 gt3
Nope. Scathed is what you got (at least from my perspective).
You have THEE perfect garage for that project. Complete with a perfect lift that would bring it up to waste height so you wouldn’t even have to bend over! You, sir, have a beautiful set up!
I'm sure a highly rated body shop would have charged less than half the amount you paid to the dealer to tighten the bolts & line the panels all back up.
Wutta sucker bet rip. Crawl back to Edina, fool.
That’s a fact
You are absolutely right!!!
A very clever body shop specialist would have fixed this issue for 200 bucks plus a Coke!
Without dismantling half of the car!
I just had a 100k service on my 2013 Porsche Cayenne Turbo and it was a smooth process with very few issues found. Taking care of them properly is the main thing.
That’s because it’s actually a VW Touareg. 😂
I love the way you present the information, James. Great narration!
Thank you kindly!
Love the video and your 911. Amazing dealership too. Only can we all take a moment to see we live in a world that can charge any person with a lovely car enough money to fund a family household for a month for just 2 days of skilled labour in a beautiful, warm and fully equipped workshop. As I say love the motor and will be checking out more of your content it looks brill.
Cheers from the UK.
Damn James, sorry to hear about that tear down for a couple bolts! I’ll have to check out these bolts come spring just out of curiosity! Keep warm brother!
We Porsche owners must be brainwashed to understand your acceptance of a bill for over two thousand to tighten 3 screws. But I do understand and love my 911 no matter what. Carry on James.
🤣🤣🤣 Cheers James!!
Thats really not that bad ,, keep driving that thang!! keep her happy they dont like to sit for long!!
Keep up the vids!!
Cheers mate!!
Aww man, that looks soooooooo awesome
We all dread those calls from the service department. However, it could have been worse and despite the cost it is always good to get your car back in 100% condition.
whenever i hear about these services, for any car really most of it is...inspect, which means look at, and for those who can change their own oil, well look at , tires, fluid levels etc, shouldn't be a stretch. now the hood thing was and unpleasant surprise so no choice there. glad its fixed , keep the videos going
Brings new meaning to the term "getting screwed". I guess the next time someone tells you that you've got a screw loose you can correct them. ;-)
AWESOME! Really glad to see a 991 with 100k. Miles = smiles; dirty car = happy driver. No garage queens. This is the way. :) Hope I hit 100k on mine.
I met John on his first week at Porsche Minneapolis. Not surprised he is now the service Manager. Took care of 3 of my Porsches.
That, my friend, is a design flaw. Unfortunately, my 981 Cayman probably has the same issue. I better 'find it' before my CPO expires! If not, I'm turning the wrench myself. However... I LOVE how our cars are designed for race-track maintenance. I pulled the rear wing and back bumper off in 20 minutes just so I could polish the mufflers ;-) I bought my 981 w/ 52k miles on it, it now has 62k miles in 7 months. Puts a grin on my face every day... Porsches are meant to be driven!
James, sorry for the hit to your wallet but this was an excellent video. You’re a great ambassador for the Porsche brand and I enjoy living the 911 experience vicariously through your videos. Keep up the great work!
That would have been a Fantastic video taking the fenders off. Thanks for sharing. I’m going to keep a eye on my hinges. Who knows I may be doing that video.
Thanks
Crazy I just picked my 997 4S up from it’s 100k service today too. Mine came to $2000 because the coolant reservoir was cracked.
i just did the 40000 miles service on my 991.2 cs, and the dealer quoted me $3500 including tax. an indy porsche shop near my house charged me $1050.
Keep on driving James, that's what they're made for. To give you an idea of pricing in Oz; Done 8,000km so far in a little under 5 months. Did a minor (44,000km - 28,000 miles first delivered in Jan 2015) service and general inspection recently in Sydney for A$680 (- USD530) and a pair of new wipers (A$160). Due for some new rear tires (approx A$1,300 for a set of two - USD 1,000) and new back pads and discs soon as well, quoted A$1,870 - USD 1,450). Probably new front tires and brakes with next year's intermediate service. All part of the fun of using it... But USD 2500 stings for some re-adjusting.
The Author of this video has shown, in other videos, that he's a pretty decent shade tree mechanic. I chuckled at some of the inspection items (check that the horn works!?!), as they are items that if you drive the car, you'd notice being off kilter immediately. The hood issue is another question, but again I think this Author could have done that too. I have a 2002 996 Turbo that I got new at the factory in Zuffenhausen. Currently has about 80,000 miles on it. Only serious issue was that I had to have the clutch replaced, about $12K, but while the engine was out, I had the dealer install not just a clutch disk, but also a new flywheel, throwout bearing and pressure plate. I would have done that myself too except I don't have the facilities to get the car high enough to drop the engine and transmission out the bottom. Otherwise, the car has never been back to the local dealer once in 22 years. Oil change, cabin filter and air cleaner changes, etc., are child's play with a little patience and there are numerous CZcams videos to help you out on almost anything. I'll admit I've built race cars and a Bonneville streamliner, so I probably have a little more knowledge than the average Joe or Jane, but really it isn't rocket science and with a decent set of hand tools and some patience almost anybody can keep a Porsche running barring something major. I replaced the plastic coolant tubes on a Cayenne we had, and that job was more serious, probably a bit too much for somebody not pretty good. FWIF, the Cayenne was basically a piece of junk.
I wasn't sure what a 'shade tree mechanic' was, but I'll take it!
Thanks for sharing!
Great video! I was thinking "$1,400......$1,500?" When you said 25, I had a verbal reaction: Nooooo! I bought a 991.2 w/15k miles recently and in 5 months have driven it only 1,400 miles. Gotta get out there in it. I'm in SoCal, so no excuses- you're an inspiration, great that you've got 100k+. Well done.
Thank you!
That’s funny I had the same response as you… Literally said it out loud
Pretty much everything seems doable but somebody like you.
I meant to say “by someone like you”. 🤪
I bought my 2014 991.1 a year ago today, which had 9,900 miles on the clock when I bought it and now has 18,000 on the clock, but I love driving this incredible car. I’ve been tempted with a 2017 GTS, and most recently a 2021 black GT4. I didn’t pull the trigger on either of them and I am still happy with my Racing Yellow 911 here in the Arizona winter (70F). I threw the last comment for my Liverpool fan James...😂😂😂😂😂
🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Ready for another 100000 miles !
James im really suprised you didn't do it yourself..... ahhhh
Shared to my Porsche salesman.
For good reason I trust! :-)
I know that's a lot of labor, but that's just bad design and criminal... $2500 to tighten something that if designed better maybe be a 1 hour task and no removal of body parts. :(
My dream of buying a Porsche 911 is shattered after looking at $2500 bill for 3 screws including $100k service. The IMS 1997-2008 issue was bad enough. I’ll wait for electric 911 or Taycan.
It looks fantastic and I can't wait to drive it again now that the hood is fixed lol.
🤣🤣🤣 You’re welcome to take it out any time!
Hopefully they used locktite on those bolts and cleaned the radiators of any debris.
I have 198k on my 2000 carrera white on savvanah beige with almost every option at the time...MSRP $101,420
and I get more people on a daily basis ask "what year is your car?" OR "wow, your car looks new, what year is it?"
and my car has been driven like a Porsche needs to be driven...regularly, often, daily, consistently and with
regular maintenance...I did a chain. tensioner etc service in may and replaced everything required when you pull
an engine...now I will ride this until 300k at which time it will go see raby for a performance upgrade build and start
all over again...PORSCHE, once its in you, you dont get rid of it!!! cheers!!!
My 2012 991 911, has Metal Mesh Screens at BOTH sides, installed at the Front Bumper Air Intakes for the AC Radiators. One radiator got hit on the Highway by either a stone or bolt and leaked, had to replace and they're $379 for Part (Stock)- High Performance $538 at Pelican Parts.
$200 for an oil change at dealership. In NJ it was $500 in 2016 haven't been back since now I DIY
Holy moly!!!
Come on James, ‘Dope’!?🤔 I can’t believe you said that.🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤷♂️ Well, I’m all kinds of cool like that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I live in Minneapolis too. My 997.1 has 63K on it but Ill be taking it to Iamola.
Imola is a great shop!! 👍
Such nice work.. new to your channel and you have a new sub 😊 . I'm thinking of getting one myself thats 2013.. You did such a good job on the rear upgrade, you make it look easy.. can you share rear end upgrade cost? Love the look.
Appreciate it! Thanks for the sub! The 991.2 lights and bumper together was around $1750 all-in - parts, paint and the labor was my own time of course. The Moshammer spoiler was around $1250 all in, parts and paint.
@@AutoAmateur Thanks for sharing. I think you know what you're doing and your videos are really good, just as a suggestion however it'll be great if you could capture where you may have bought the parts with a link if any and the pricing too it'll help us enthusiasts. Thanks again for replying promptly.
What has been your total dealership+outside labor and parts for the 100K miles?
Hopyfully they applied some sort of lock tite on those screws/bolts. :D
Hahah. Yes, one would hope so!!
How did u tighten the one bolt before but cant do the other two.
And you’re the man you do go back and read your old comments and I was just having lunch looking at your video of your hundred thousand mile and I noticed that Flippin CZcams had taken you off as a subscribe you know one of my subscriptions and I know I watch this video before so you might want to remind people that CZcamsrs playing games because they did it to another 9/11 channel I was watching too and I had to re-subscribe great content keep making videos and projects
Thanks Sean!!
Had my 997.2 C2S PDK with 64500 miles for 1 week. Great so far. I’m nervous about costs as my missus didn’t really want me to get it as we are in a tighter budget. Fuel is already a lot more than my X3 35D! One question to anyone, it feels a bit scary at speed on a straight as the front end feels like it’s gonna take off. Is this normal? Great vids James for me leading up to my purchase. I’m in the UK (Essex) and I’m liking your UK vibe in the big US!
Thats not that bad. I picked up a 2011 987.2 cayman about 4 months. Right after buying i took it to an independent porsche mechanic and dropped 2k engine oil, pdk service(both oils and filter), coolant, steering and brake flush. Next its new plugs and a set of pilot sport tires
Would love for you to post the before and after photo as I’ve never noticed.
Well mate at least you can relax about the bonnet now - I know how much it was stressing you out 😂
😕🤣🤣🤣
Do you know how to access the front spoiler pump on a 991.1 Turbo S??
2500 bucks for tightening three screws? I'm thinking screw(ed) is the operative word here. Hey! You're the Auto Amateur!! That would have made a nice series of videos! Still can't believe it. SMH. I see a 997.2 GT3 in your future. Wink Wink Nudge Nudge. Cheers!
Hahah. 997.1 GT3, hell yes.
@@AutoAmateur It's got my vote buddy!!
Quick question; what color are those rims?
Did you have them painted or powder coated?
I have a similar spec and that color combo with the Agate Gray is superb.
Thanks Chris! The rims are Porsche’s satin platinum from the factory.
Wow, that’s a lot of disassembly just to access hood hinge screws!
James - what size wheel spacers are you running now? 15mm rear and 7mm front? Thanks, mate!
That’s right!! 15/rear, 7/front. Cheers!
But it had 92k when you got right?!? So in almost two years you did barely 10k, which is what’s expected in a year... so I think you’re doin really well! 👍🏽
Thanks Katie! ♥️🔥
I seriously hope they put some effing thread locker on those bolts to keep them from backing out again!
Greetings from the UK. I had a 997 from new 2005-12. Always dreaded the trip to the OPC for servicing. In the UK a 911 with over 100k is almost unheard of unless it is some 25+ year old 1980's Carrera, 964 or 993. Most are weekend cars and owners sh1t themselves they will lose tens of thousands of pounds once they get over 50,000 miles.
I agree, however I must be be unusual, I’ve got a 2009 997.2 C2 with 107k on it, it would have more mileage, but lockdown slowed things down. No major issues and it still looks like a 3 year old car.
James not interested or too difficult to do this yourself? What's happening with the 996?
Hi been watching from GB i watched your video on installing a back up camera using joyauto i just can't get this to work any ideas
all the best paul
Sure! Please send me an email to contact@autoamateur.com with some photos of how you have put everything together and the names of any products / parts you have used. Would be happy to take a look and see if I can help! I'm sure we can figure it out together.
I feel you. I went to service yesterday and was told to replace my PCM(nav didn't work, rebooting) and it cost me 3150 + tax.
Hi, my 2015 c4s doing exactly as yours. I have taken my unit out and sent it to a specialist who will hopefully be able to fix and send back to me also they will update it to the current software.
Damn...100k? I sold mine when it got to 26k!! Got another one though :)
Good video! What suburb do you live in?
Anyone been bothered to fit mesh grilles in the front bumper to stop leaves and stones?
Worth it ? Thanks.
Definitely worth it. I did this on my 997 and they were great. I have them sitting waiting to go on my 991. Great excuse for another video!
You should have done the hood screws yourself. Part if me wonders of the wrap company caused that.
His hood has been out of alignment since he bought it. Just didn’t want to acknowledge it lol
did you consider duct tape as alternative to the screw replacement? duct tape is totally underestimated!
Hahahaha. Duct tape can fix just about ANYTHING!! :)
So, assuming you plan to upgrade, what is your car worth now in your opinion?
Good question! I would assume mid-40s. Something like that.
Wouldn't a PPI for $350 be very close to your 100 point inspection?
Yes, but I had a PPI from Champion Porsche, it was 550 in 2018.
how many of those "inspect" do you think actually get done
All of them. I trust these guys. They’re professionals. I saw them test the lights and horn myself from the waiting room.
U skint now James. Beans on toast for tea until pay day!! Haha 💷💰
Skint or flush, beans on toast are my favorite!! 🤣👍
I'm on my way to the garage, to check the screws on my C2S... lol
Hahhahaha. Go check!! 🤣
@@AutoAmateur They're nice and tight! lol
Last week I spent £1058 on a 8 year 42k miles service. That was the same as the pre service qoute. But oh no, as luck would have it, the day before the service I got a dreaded yellow cooling system warning on the dash. Long story short a further £1068. We replaced 6 of the 8 changeover valves. Parts were less than 50% of the bill. Why 6 valves? Well 2 were already swapped to a never version by the previous owner, and I didn't want to run the risk of it happening again on any of the remaining original COVs that we know needed to be revised by Porsche after the original parts kept failing early model years. So yeah, 1k turned I to 2k pretty quickly.
Wow. What a weird design to get to the screws. Shouldn’t be so difficult to get to, if only there was a way you could have tightened them yourself !
Yup. That was essentially a $1500 turn of a screw.
Was that the biggest maintenance bill you paid in the 100,000 miles
I had the car between 80k and 120k. I didn't ever pay more than $1000 for any regular service.
Nice license plate!
I love it! Haha. Thanks.
I know it's a little cliche' but I've always told my son:
1. Don't ever go to the dealer, buy the tools and learn how to fix it yourself.
2. If you think you need to go to the dealer, see rule #1 then find a good and fair indy.
3. If you are not able to follow rules #1 and #2, part it out and call the junk yard to pick up the carcass.
Unfortunately, that doesn't workout so well for Porsches. If it's electrical, chances are it's tied into the security system. I had a right brake light out, mind you the turn signal worked. I shot all the wires and checked battery, and fuses. The issue ended up being a control module under the center console, part 850, labor 4 hrs at 250. I knew exactly what part was bad but to change the module you had to completely recalibrate the security system. This meant both keys had to be present and even if you had a junkyard part Porsche will not install it or TS it so only new parts are allowable. Most shops aren't going to pay 75k to buy the diagnostic and software needed to fix Porsches. As my dad used to say, they have you by the balls
@@brandonmulford5524 you should have followed my "rule #3". Seriously though, yeah, there are exceptions but that's a big hit.
@@DSC800 sadly for a Porsche that's chump change, pray an auto tranny doesn't fail or a motor out of warranty. Again, all the above rules apply, even parting out is not much of an option as stated before Porsche won't install or service used parts. Then your down to just a few shops who specializes in Euro cars and they know what they have and charge for it.
I hope to god they put some blue locktite on those bolts.
Hahahahaha. RIGHT!!
Is your 991.1 a Base model?
Yes.
dude 2500 for some bolt tightening. they took you for a joyride
Haha. Yup.
Wow you got better music!
l can understand $1500 if they are replacing everything you mentioned, but why so expensive if they are just checking fluid levels, break pads etc. for example. checking the fluid level in your differential is al lot less expensive than replacing the fluid!
Most people don’t realize that these things are assembled like a mechanical watch, and to get to something simple l like this…you have to take parts off to get to the screw’s themselves.
100%!
$2500!!! Holy shit Batman!
Yup. My carbon fiber fund is back to zero. 🙄😆
im about to spend $2200 for a place to take apart my porsche 996 and paint it. i'll make sure they tighten up those screws xD
Hahaha. Make sure you do!
100k already. Must do some travelling
The first owner certainly did, commuting between LA and Vegas several times a week. I picked it up with 92k on the clock.
@@AutoAmateur oh maybe I missed a few vids .
Convinced me to buy a Nissan 400z. $2400 to replace 3 screws is a bit much.
😂🙌
Mein Got. Those Austrian/Germans have a lot to answers for with their screws.
Haha. True!!
Your videos are next level now for sure- great job! Your 911 does not look like it has 100k on it and the red tach, red seat belts, Soul exhaust just add to how great it is. Are you really considering selling it? I'll be very interested in what you get next if you do. The blue 996 looks really good in the background and I'm jealous you have 2 911s in the garage!
Ouch!
And the 996?
It’s looking pretty sat, broken, in my garage for the moment.
$2235???? Holy moly 🥺
James, 100,000 miles is nothing. My old Honda CR-V has 205,000 miles that a Porsche friend now has and a co-worker where I used to work before retiring had 310,000 miles on his Toyota Camry before it got t-boned at an intersection. Yeah I know, they are reliable Japanese cars and also why I turned down a Macan and bought an Acura RDX. Both my 911s are low mileage as they are sunny day vehicles and toys.
I would say you got away unscathed for a 100k service. Considering and anyone that owns a Porsche would agree.
Or any other high end car.
These are not Toyota or Honda’s.
A close up view of the 3 problem screws would have been nice. Your photography, editing, narrative, etc. are great, but other owners like me could benefit from seeing the exact problem. Please stop with the music.
$2500?! Hope they used Loctite.....and lube
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In the right locations too lol. Would hate to have lube on screws and loctite you know where.
Lots of lube
Ouch
I swear the other day it was too hot!!
Hahahahah. I’m a sensitive soul. Too hot in the summer, potential to die in minutes outside in winter. 🤣🤣🤣🤷♂️
@@AutoAmateur I'm the same in the south UK I get about 2 months a year that I can bear the temp lol too hot in summer too cold winter but it's only 0 degrees here not minus 40!!
Sorry to tell you but it doesn't look like the front bumper colour matches the bonnet (hood) 🤦♂️. Slightly out
I think you're right!
Ugh. I feel your pain. It’s just a life tax.
Couldn’t you whack a couple of self tappers in it..😊
Hahahaha. I tried! Failed.
$2500?😮