Why the Pacquiao hate Paulie?
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Thanks for the shout out! I'm sure if I asked something related to Conor, the answer would have been 3x longer lol!
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Conor has been bulking up lately.
@@PaulieTVBrooklyn you wrong paulie about pacquiao , and i can easily break it down for you for it to make sense for you
@Anthony Mcken that aint the truth paulie in his feelings
@Anthony Mcken what he says dont make sense , u need to realzie he speaking from a emotional place
Paulie: everybody is on steroids except me...everyone that beat me was on steroids....yea sounds like Paulie
Artem was clean!! 🤣🤣
I don't know maybe I don't know Paulie has extremely high boxing iq he's probably the only podcaster that speaks boxing that I take seriously
no wonder why he keeps accusing pacquing of using PEDs because pacquiao beat three boxers who beat him easily. Cotto Hatton Broner..
Cotto beat the shit out of Paulie so Cotto losing to Manny means he is on PED guys
@Kulas Bb bcos he talks too much bullshit
I'll take your comment seriously if you can name one other fighter, ever, who came into the pro ranks as a 118 pounder and then proceeded to mow down lightweights, welterweights, junior middleweights, etc. You must think Pacman is some sort of superhero
@@jlongobardy1612 Sam Langford KO'd heavyweights and he started at lightweight.
@@genestringini8215 Lightweight is a misnomer in that it's not considered a small-guy division; hence, lightweight is the traditional departure for 10 oz gloves, as opposed to the 8 ouncers in the lower divisions. Sorry. Among all the legendary small guys, none has traversed his way into the 10-oz divisions by mowing everyone down.
no wonder why he keeps accusing pacquing of using PEDs because pacquiao beat three boxers who beat him easily. Cotto Hatton Broner..
Poor paulie doesnt understand that sum fighters just have a genetic advantage..
Yes this is true but enhancing athletic ability is also a face of sport
Oh? Please name one other fighter in the long history of the sport who entered at 118 pounds and then proceeded to mow down lightweights, welterweights and junior middleweights...let alone do it to monsters in those divisions with relative ease. Or name one other genetically gifted superstar who was an unknown as an amateur and unknown for the first quarter of his career? In any sport? Give me a break.
Let's be real. It's simple where this resentment comes from: Jealousy.
So with all of them good points that he made all you got from that is he is jealous? 🤦🏽♂️
@@troybracy2915 So with all the good points he made, did he ever present any solid evidence to back up the accusations? Nope. There's no proof, never has been, never will be, so why would anyone discredit another man's success in that way? This some b**** made loser mentality. Paulies always been a B level fighter. And because someone is extraordinary, he makes accusations to compensate for his own shortcomings. It's really that simple.
@@troybracy2915 Is he right about Pacquiao peds claim?
@@johnpaolobas1036 I agree with his logic it makes perfect sense and it’s backed by facts
@@troybracy2915 Facts with no evidence is so impossible
Manny stated Paulie was soft. that's probably the real reason why the hate. lol
If you’re calling out PEDs in the sport, you have to be consistent. Roy, Toney, Tarver and Fury all actually popped, but we don’t hear you talk about them. I get it - you grew up looking up to some of those guys and you might even be friends with some of them. But if you’re calling out dirty fighters, let’s just stick to the ones who popped on record. Otherwise it’s just gossip and slander.
You got to call out Mayweather who was exposed and inadvertently admitted to using a WADA banned PED masking IV for a fight that he refused VADA and refused an additional $5MM penalty if either of them got caught using anything on WADAS banned substance and methods list. That is the most glaring example on how Paulie is selective on these issues.
@@santosonly7 they won't ever mention Roy Jones or Floyd cheating and there was evidence but they will constantly bring up Pacquiao even though there's no proof lmao
@@santosonly7 Not to mention when the Mayweathers accused pacquiao of taking PEDS....pacquiao said OK floyd let's show the court's are Medical records Floyd was like how much will you accept for me NOT to show the court's...In the end FLOYD PAYED pacquiao 25/30million not too..🤦♂️...PLUS Pauly is Salty cuz pacquiao didn't want to fight him..he's not worthy...
he did say others are doing it too. its no secret really lol people close to the sport know
The guy asked about Pacquiao specifically and you guys start crying and bringing up other fighters. This shit is hilarious.
I heard paulie was about to fight pac...and it was cancelled. And he was offended by it. Just sayin.. paulie is not just genetically gifted. I love paulie but his envy of pac is on another level.
Paulie got knocked the fuck out by a low level mma fighter lmao lord Artem lobov 😆
He should be thankful that fight never happened
Paulie Malignaggi is my favorite fighter.
Said no one ever.
Pacquiao never used PEDs.
Said no one ever lol.
I don't like needles they make me weak
Jealousy and envious never seem's to get old in boxing sadly 😂 💢😭
whaaaaat
@@FavioHDTVno wonder why he keeps accusing pacquing of using PEDs because pacquiao beat three boxers who beat him easily. Cotto Hatton Broner..
Let's be honest Paulie.
Your hate started when Pacquiao was aboht to give you a chance to fight him and he picked someone else.
So please. Be honest.
That was Clottey btw in 2010
no, Manny is a drug cheat, simple
I think it's some scum bag shit to call another man a cheater without proof. Also his take on pac man not clinching and rapid paced fighting?... That's pac man's whole career. Now do I think it's possible?, Sure, but that's not enough to slander a fighter. I mean Ali looked super human taking punishment from Foreman, must have cheated right?... Fuck no! Some fighters are just special. Or maybe Paulie's right, everybody cheats... except him of course.
You’re actually confirming the point Paulie is trying to make. The Ali example you used is completely based on strategy and if you look at film almost every fighter clinched….. except Pac. It’s kinda strange when you think about it.
So pacquiao using using PED since day 1 cause he aint clinching. Nice logic!
@@RAHEEMMILLNER34 no, point is that Ali did something that looked super human...he was able to absorb all those punches from a prime George foreman...an average person can't do that. To the average person it appears impossible. Just because Paulie thinks its impossible for PAC doesn't mean shit... And strategically speaking Manny never was a clincher, his offense is his defense, I don't think he would change up because he moved up in weight. All this is speculation anyway, Paulie said this is what people told him, not what he witnessed. So on those grounds alone I feel like that is some scummy shit to do, because remember he could just say nothing, but he's going out of his way to slander Pacquiao and by association Freddy Roach.
@@RAHEEMMILLNER34forklift driver opinions are never to be trusted or taken as a serious take 😂😂😂 get your ged before you try to speak on boxing stuff
I don't know this craft has been here for a very long time we are seeing very special stuff now in our era I bet there was some very good boxers in ages past with some strange explosive techniques that would even baffle the guys now!
Paulie… as someone who’s taken a boatload of anabolics…they don’t help someone take a punch. They just don’t do that.
They definitely make you punch harder .
@@76biggdogg for sure…but, I’m sure cotto was on gear too. As is everyone. Paulie himself said, the whole sport is sauced.
@@fluorophoremusic3679 Pacquiao was using BETAMETHASONE (Banned by VADA) along with Toradol and lidocaine which allowed him to walk through opponents without feeling their punch
@@cmoneyno5 bro just stop lol
@@rant21You don't like the truth??
Bro is literally just mad because he had no power, so apparently everyone in boxing with power is juicing cmon now.
There’s a lot of holes, inaccuracies & missing context in Paulies arguments. He says Manny was just waking thru Cotto, & other guys punches, which is not at all true. Manny Cotto was a war & Manny got his bell rung several times in that fight. Pac was a swollen mess after the Margarito fight & said that he was in bed for 2weeks crying in pain afterwards. Watch the post fight presser & just look at Pacs face & body language.
He also says that “everyone” is juicing. - which is a convenient assertion to help his argument. Why isn’t everyone popping dirty then? Is there some huge conspiracy that allows everyone in boxing to use PEDs and Paulie just never could get in on it?
Lastly, he claims Pac was too small & it’s unnatural for him to move up & perform the way he did against bigger guys. Fine. But if that’s true, explain how he was able to take the bigger guys punches. There is no PED to make your chin stronger or your body more resilient to punches. The reason Pac was able to come up from flyweight to WW is because he grew into each weight class. He was young & literally poor & starving when he was fighting at the lower weights. Once he began to make money and live a natural life he steadily moved up. He also was fighting at his walk around weight in almost every weight class. He NEVER weighed in at 147 the entire time he fought there - because he was too small. Pac is a 5’5 145lb man who probably walked around at 150 in between fights.
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I'm going to copy and paste the important section of that article......
Pacquiao complained of a right shoulder injury suffered in training April 4, resulting in a rotator-cuff tear.
He had been taking injections of lidocaine, bupivacaine and betamethasone, all approved by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, but an injection of the pain-relief and anti-inflammatory medications was not allowed on fight night by the Nevada Athletic Commission, which had no advance notice of the injury.
Not everyone is as naive as you. In the words of the Diaz brothers they’re all on steroids
Stop being naive. Most high level athletes juice. Look at the documentary icarus
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Innocent until proven guilty
I can’t get with Paulie on this. Pac has NEVER tested dirty EVER. He never refused a test. He’s always been enrolled with VADA. In 2011 he refused USADA testing, which is what Floyd was using at the time & was using as a flex in negotiating the fight. Why was VADA testing sufficient for everyone else but for Floyd, Manny had to use USADA? In hindsight, Should Manny have just said “fuck it, I’ll do your testing” - I would say yes. But you gotta think about Mannys mentality at the time. He & Floyd were 1 & 1a in the entire sport (at that time) it wasn’t JUST the testing that killed the fight, it was the 50/50 split that Manny wanted & deserved(at that time) & Floyd’s demand that he “leave Bob or there’s no fight”. People love to leave those parts out to fuel their narrative that Pac was refusing to be tested, when in fact he was using the same testing that everyone else was required to, as well as other opponents Floyd had fought in the past
@@eduardochavez658 derrrrrrrrp
Manny never deserved 50/50. He wasn't doing the numbers Floyd was doing. Just look at their numbers against common opponents, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Marquez, Floyd's ppv numbers are all higher.
@@anthonyanderson9303 that’s crazy. That’s the biggest fight of the era. And it’s bc there was two a sides in the same fight. Of course Manny deserved 50. That fight doesn’t get anywhere near the same hype if it was Floyd and Cotto or some other shit
@@mitchharris4905 that doesn't matter. Floyd was the bigger name, sold more ppvs, bigger live gated, etc... he was never going to do 50/50.
Exactly shit Floyd controlled usada which never caught anyone Cheating unlike Vada who did also Floyd worked with Memo Heredia a known ped guy that also first worked with Juan Manuel Marguez had him looking like the hulk
Paulie - You know your sport. And I am glad you have this channel...You are an intelligent person and a class act... Keep up the GREAT WORK !
I don't give a fuck what anybody says ...if you think it just takes steroids to win titles in 8 weight divisions then your living in cloud cuckoo land .
Maybe malinagi didn't use p.e.d.s but a lot of other boxers did and did Manny ever get found out like canelo did ...no he didn't.
Malinagi didn't have the power to go up in weight and achieve the things Manny did ..and if you think steroids give you power then your misinformed , your born with it .The steroids help you train better and improve your stamina .We'd all be world champions if it was just about steroids
Pauli: Fast hands no power! If Pauli had more pop he could have won more fights! That's MHO!👌🥊🇺🇲🇮🇹
@@tomscerbo1588 he was very talented ...he had good balance but he just couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat ...but he made up for it and he was a great trash talker .And I think he beat broner
@@brendancronin3796 Thanks Brendan! Paulie couldn't dent a bowl of yogurt! He's no " Boom Boom" or "Thunder Gatti"! He was slickster with hand speed! Thanks for replying!👌🥊🇮🇹🇺🇲
@@tomscerbo1588 no worries ..when your right your right
Excellent insight and good question
Pacquiao also beat AB as a 1st warm up fight after signing with PBC. Pac was like 38. While Paulie got his belt and just girl taken by Broner in his prime!! Cry about that too!! 🤣
Even worse. Pacquiao was 40 when he whooped Broner and he beat him with the flu lol
get in the ring with Paulie , only 3 rounds keybored warrior :/
@@treidchimney no! He should get in the ring with the Legendary Pacquiao because he was always talkin’ that shit about him! 🤣
Than you Paulie for your candor and information, while refusing to throw others under the bus. Given that in a sport as dangerous as boxing, match promoters and organizers, remain reticent to do anything about juicing. Thereby making those lie yourself, the sacrificial lambs.
Someone told him that they saw it personally themselves, key word told him. And since you don't want to throw anyone under the bus by naming names, your opinion has 0 weight as facts.
And if for some reason let's just say hypothetically he was (even if there was no proof whatsoever), any fighter would still take that fight for the payday. The only one that didn't was ES Jr but we all know he might be dealing with other things that probably didn't warrant the risk/reward. And this is my opinion as well but maybe he definitely wouldn't have dodged that fight had he never got into that accident.
Teddy Atlas said he seen an email from pacquiaos camp asking Mayweathers camp “if pacquiao fails the test can we keep the results private?” Teddy may be biased or delusional but he’s never been known as a bold face liar. I’ll take teddy’s and Paulies words over random angry fans.
@@matthewanthony4606 link Teddy atlas claiming this? Until then...
Lol facts he also doesn’t want to get sued by Manny how Floyd had to pay Manny for saying he was taking ped’s but going to court opens them up and they don’t want that too many skeletons in their closet
Great insight
Defo subscribing to this podcast 👊🏼👊🏼
Pacquiao has never failed a test, “I know people on the inside” without naming anyone is like saying “I know people that have confirmed Abraham Lincoln came back and Sniped JFK”
Paulie took the Mayweather drug test excuse and ran with it and still is to this day. I’m surprised his own neighborhood gym would have this weasel around 😂
Like saying Jesus, the Bible , Muslims and Mohammed are real but nonody under the age of 2010 was ever there
Hates Pacman cause he gt smashed and thought Manny was gonna aswell but didn't realise that little Filipino was something special.
Fire segment & title
lol he was knocking cotto across the ring
Pacquiao defence was underrated, his footwork and angles was his defence and only the great timing like the Marquez managed to do after 4 fights nailed Pacquiao so sometimes it’s catching him flush to really hurt him and a lot of fighters couldn’t.
His footwork was amazing. Even as an older fighter he was great. His slipping was today tier too.
overrated fighter clearly juicing
@@jtonneck show me where pac failed a drug test. Until then st fu
@@jtonneck yet Floyd was the one taking 15 times the legal amount of IV which masks peds that's why it's ILLEGAL to take over 50 ml and he took 750 and didn't report it for 3 weeks and the commission spoke out against usada and that's why vada is mainly used now. Pacquiao was never caught with anything but sure Pac was the one juicing lmao
he got hit a lot in some fights but many opponents said it was difficult to get to him and his body is a small target he can cover easily.
Amen brotha
Can someone post a video where Paulie ever said anything about another fighter on Juice?
Just cause you cant, doesnt mean other people cant
I'm sorry, but, just because, you can't do what Pac can doesn't mean he's on to something. If PEDs is the secret to Pac's success, then why hasn't anybody else come close to what he has done? Why hasn't any fighter or Filipino fighter for that matter use what Pac's using? You'd think Pac would share those juices to his brother Bobby who was a boxer too to gain the same success as he has. A lot of superstars tested positive, heck even Floyd who is a protected fighter at Vegas tested positive, Canelo too, Pac has never tested positive for PEDs, you'd think he is more susceptible to being caught just like he was susceptible being robbed of his victories over the Bradley, Horn and Mayweather, and the 1st Marquez fight, in a foreign country where he has no homecourt advantage.
😂😂😂😂 don’t you understand Paulie compares boxers to himself, he thinks he’s the gold standard, he just doesn’t understand Pacquiao was levels above him, well most boxers were 🤣🤣
Y’all know damn well pac was juicing
Stop a blind man can see it
@@tommytaylor7618, innocent until proven guilty. otherwise you you on crack judging by your comment and I don't need proof to say so.
OK but literally no fighter in history been able to move up that many weight classes and no only improve punching power but also punch resistance. It just doesn't happen.
@@anthonyanderson9303 many boxers have done peds. How come they weren’t able to accomplish what pac has accomplished? Also since when did peds give you a chin? I’m also an mma fan and back in the day many of the fighters obviously did steroids, without a doubt. It never gave them a chin though, like alistair overeeem, wanderlei silva, etc.
Why would a small Pacquiao clinch a huge Margarito. That’s silly
Have you ever boxed?
You telling a dude that was a world champ that faces top fighters why clinch smh
Haha you guys are clueless!!
Who on Earth would a small man like Pacquiao who never clinches start to clinch with a huge man like Margarito?
Oh so Margarito can put all his weight on Pacquiao.?
How foolish would you be to let a man of his size and weight be in a clinch with you especially when fighting Pacquiao.
Yeah I’m sure I’d like a boxer weighing 20pts heavier on the night to clinch with with.
How silly do you guys sound now.
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
I saw this headline *"Proof that Manny Pacquiao uses PEDs"* . I click and immediately shake my head when I see "Paulie Maliniaggi" followed by "Paulie heard from a guy from a guy in a lockeroom"
Dont get me wrong, I grew up in BK and Long Island boxing my whole life and I love cugine Paulito, but the only thing he loves more than gossipy shit talk, is when he is the one doing the gossipy shit talking
"People in the inner circle" easy way to carve out a lie. Keep it up. 🤣🤣🤣
Because Yk better then him buddy?
@@paoloazce9343 because we know pac never failed a drug test
Wow there are so many pac fangirls who get offended at the mere thought of Pacquiao on PEDs. Can you not even remotely contemplate it? Every fighter is on substances legal or not
@@chrismason4449 stupidest shit I’ve ever heard
I don't always agree with what Paulie says and he wasn't my favorite fighter when I was a teenager in the boxing gym but I heard the same thing said. Lots of people who know the fight game speculated how a Boxer who doesn't lift weights goes from 112 pounds to 147 pounds and still keeps the stamina and power
Pacquiao doesn't lift weights?
Not the kind of weight workouts that puts on 30 lbs of muscle
@@wagna5491 How do you think he maintained the size over time fighting at such a bigger weight for so long? You may be correct about the floyd situation because I did hear that said back when they fought. Most of it just talk but everyone said there was so much money involved it would be easy to avoid testing.
@@MyMandick manny pacquiao used to eat 7k calories right?
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Im curious as to what some of these boxers like Pacquiao are chewing on when they walk to ring and why was mayweather and tim Bradley allowed to drink power aid or Gatorade in the fight?
Hahaha Paulie was just an ok fighter. He thinks too highly of himself. And he can't believe there are better fighters than him.
He put Amir down as below average. He beat Paulie up. lol
Pauline was a world champion. I guarantee he would make any casual piss blood including you pactards
I think these podcasters talk a little to much but Paulie is proven really proven so his opinion in boxing should be heard
"was just an ok fighter"
You, clearly, have no clue what you're talking about.
He wasn’t okay he was good he lacked power but made with everything else and everyone knew him all the boxing gyms everyone respects him
Clout chasing Pacquiao , Pauline was a underachieving bum 😂😂
Where are your world titles??? We’ll wait… bum
Paulie basically said Pac and Canelo were/are on that juice💉
These rumors have been going for years now. The reason Mayweather, & Pac-Man never fought as early as everyone wanted them too was because Pac-Man didn’t wanna go through the Olympic style drug testing he wanted
Well it’s obvious they were are
why US Defend a filipino using PEDS and not exposing him to the world
Manny ran mountains and spar 36 rounds for his training. You be saying like Inoue is on PEDs even though he been tested negative all the time.
2008 Pacquiao was a lightweight 135 and 29 years old, year and a half later he was 30 years old and 147. Its 12 pounds but around the age of 30 lots of boxers go up weight
No they don't. At 30 your test starts to go down so you can keep going up because you not going to carry your relative bmi to a new weight class. You will be a pudgy mess trying to move up.
One fight only at 135. A pit stop basically. Look at Manny’s family members, they’re all his size.
Floyd tested Positive!
Canelo tested positive!
Pacquiao the most drug tested in the History of boxing! Never been tested positive.
When did Floyd test positive for peds? Lying much
Lies
By this logic, Canelo migh br the greatest drug cheat on earth.
Heres the difference canelo failed and blamed it on mexican cow. Pac never failed a test
The hgh is good for the skeleton growth would seem to help fighters. As well cutting agents must be huge in the fighting for weight bullies.
I think when he found out Floyd was taking peds he didn't want to bring up the subject anymore can you do a video on the iv Floyd took after the Pacquiao fight or the weight in
Lol when was Floyd taking peds? Or are we making shit up now? Lol
@@rt__194 he took that iv after the Pacquiao weight in. That was to hide something
@@will.3905 he didn’t hide it. It was reported to usada the Nevada commission top rank and pacs team. There wasn’t anything to hide nor there were any peds in those IVs. Unless u dumb enough to think vitamin C and saline are peds
@@will.3905 no it wasn’t and it wasn’t illegal. This has already been discussed already
@@pandabear1576 I've never heard Floyd talk about it Paulie said Pacquiao was probably on something at some point but everyone is so you can't single anyone out. He not so passionate about it because his buddy was on something to beat Manny I. Just saying
I love Paulie but you still just seem like a hater towards Pac. Your argument is so inconsistent. You THINK Pacman was on something, yet he has never failed a test and you always talk shit about him. Yet, you do not appear to have the same amount of criticism to people who have actually been caught. I never hear you say anything about Mayweather, why is that?
Pacman wasnt knocking everyone out when he moved up anyway. It was pretty much only Hatton. Timing and speed man. Paulie just comes across as very jealous tbh.
Yet Pac-Man REFUSED to take the OSDT vs Floyd and even Freddie Roach stated in 2011 interview that and I quote “it was mannys fault the fight vs Floyd didn’t happen”. The amount of excuses Pacquiao was saying for not to take the blood tests was hilarious at best AND Pac tried to make Marquez in their 4th fight to take the Blood test for OSDT and Marquez responded and I quote “I will take the test but YOU have to take the same test as well” & guess what was Pacquiao response? And I’ll quote “no”.
So yea Pacquiao is to blame for anyone questioning him using PEDs.
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 First of all this has nothing to do with Pauline’s reasons. Second, Mayweather cannot dictate what drug tests are gonna be used, he wasn’t above the official protocol. Manny always did what was the official line of drug testing procedures were. However as it appeared he wouldn’t get the fight with Floyd he said ok but wanted a cut off point, they refused, he asked for a diff cut off point and they still refused. He also was happy to have another test directly after the fight. They refused. Besides, what is funny is Floyd never even did proper OSDT anyway coz he was only tested during the time when he had a fight announced, NOT all year round. Also, you must know full well the details of Floyds dodgy drugs for his hands and his IV before the Manny fight! But no lets keep hush.
Manny has never failed a test, does this mean he never took anything? No. But that doesn’t stop Paulie constantly hating on him, yet Paulie doesn’t do the same tp Fury, Canelo and the numerous others who have. Why is that?
@@supes12 so what does mayweather dictating Pac to take the SAME TEST AS HIMSELF has to do with Pac REFUSING to take the OSDT due to excuses like I’m afraid of needles and 1 teaspoon of flood will weaken me excuses? You want to talk about dictate but didn’t Pac after the negotiations failed because of Pac was forcing his opponents to take the very same test he refused to take? Marquez had to do it in their 3rd fight amongst others. Floyd took the very same tests his opponents had to take to fight him so…..Any more excuses?
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 Mayweather does not overrule the commission. However, pac still agreed but wanted a cut off so he wouldn't get a test the day before the fight. He asked for a 7 day cut off with a test directly after the fight. Dude, some people just don't do well with blood tests, everyone is different.
You failed to answer how this is relevant to Paulies issues, u also failed to answer why Paulie has such a public and vocal issue against pacman but not to Mayweather, Fury, Canelo etc. Also... Pacman has never failed a test... So...?
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 First negotiations was def Pacs fault but the 2nd and 3rd? It was all public information how Pac has accepted the contract and even agreed to olympic style testing. Even moved the cutoff date from 14 days down to 7 or so. Yet Floyd refused to sign it. And to add to that, the contract signing and fight announcement was live on TV, and had an actual live countdown on ESPN and multiple boxing websites. That was also around the same time Pac won his slander/defamation case against Floyd and Goldenboy who was accusing of peds at the time. And chose to settle outside of court with a 6 figure payment. Pac doubled down by taking an olympic testing with his fights against Rios and I think also Hatton.
Paulie is basically saying how great Pac is without saying he is great🤣😂😅. This guy mad cus Pac didn't give him a payday.
So no proof he juiced. Got it
This was Cotto after Magarito and a difficult fight against Clottey at a catch weight against the beat version of Pacquiao. Timings everything.
Pauli has always been a Pac-Man hater unfortunately.
I usually agree with Pauli but not on this. It seems that his argument is that mannys ability to move up in weigh was the big reason he must have been juicing. Let’s not forget that none of these fighters went down with just one punch, the closest to that would have been Ricky hatton. I remember dela Hoya saying that manny didn’t have lots of power and that he was too fast and Oscar couldn’t see the punches coming. In fact in fights taken place at 135 or higher he has only 5 stoppages in 21 fights. I even remember Floyd saying that what manny had done was no greater accomplishment than what he had done because they both fought at 106 pounds wen they were 16 and mayweather actually moved through the weight classes faster so buy this logic Floyd must have been juicing also. As to the men on the inside who “verified” it for Pauli, I just can’t put any thing into that with out more specifics. Regardless I love paulis show and his comentary, I miss him as a commentator, show time made a mistake he was the best commentator they had, honest and gives a great technical assessment.
Stopped reading at "his argument is that mannys ability to move up in weigh was the big reason he must have been juicing."
That's an oversimplification of the arguments Paulie put forth. Try watching the video again.
I do believe Manny is a good and humble person NOW. And at the same time I believe he was on the "juice", but then he stopped and so did the knockouts.
@@semyaza555 Pacquiao was always big at those lower weight classes though and drained as hell. We saw Morales move up in weight as an old man, slowing down and nearly drop Maidana with a big left hook, it wasn't just Pacquiao who seemed to have power as he moved up. Pacquiao was just younger & Fresher when he moved up instead of waiting until the weight was impossible for him.
Mayweather was stopping guys and couldn't as he moved up. Manny continued to stop guys and break their faces as he moved up. Not a good comparison.
@@bromeo22 floyd would still be knocking out dudes if he didn't break his hand.
Floyd positive
Canelo positive
Pacquiao past all the test🤔🤔🤔
Cotto was at a catch weight and rehydration limit right?
lol nope
Yep
HMM, Paulie elaborating too much in order to sound convincing, stuttering and sounding nervous as hell, and giving over the top details than was asked for in an answer to a question is most definitely suspicious. And with no evidence...how many other fighters you put the hate on then?
He's not wrong. For example the ufc wasn't really testing until like 7 years ago, everyone changed after that, lol. Same with Pride, everyone was on it. I know most boxers are on it, it's an even playing field, peds is in every sport.
Paulie still loves Floyd though after that whole IV gate even though he's never needed to inject any vitamins just a solution into his hands to numb them because of his hand issues. It was also Floyd who denied a drug penalty clause that was in the millions of violated which he did . Paulie just love Floyd because he's American and has a defensive style which Paulie favors
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I'm going to copy and paste the important section of that article......
Pacquiao complained of a right shoulder injury suffered in training April 4, resulting in a rotator-cuff tear.
He had been taking injections of lidocaine, bupivacaine and betamethasone, all approved by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, but an injection of the pain-relief and anti-inflammatory medications was not allowed on fight night by the Nevada Athletic Commission, which had no advance notice of the injury.
All prohibited substances in this class are Specified Substances.
All glucocorticoids are prohibited when administered by any injectable, oral [including oromucosal (e.g. buccal, gingival, sublingual)] or rectal route.
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO:
Beclometasone
Betamethasone
Rehydration and peds aren’t the same thing you brainlet. College wrestlers use them after cutting weight. Jfc you people are dense
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from just a fan perspective and not being in that world i have always just assumed everyone was on gear. if everyone is on something than no one is on anything.
I have to agree with Paulie, I saw something different in Pac after the Diaz fight. I saw him fill out to quickly and with a man of his work rate to pick up that weight does not make sense. His extreme work rate would not allow him to bulk up so quickly!
uh huh yep , bang on right here
Eat some rice.. Calories from carbs hits different ...
If you wanna say PEDs made him stronger or whatever, fine. But there Ain’t no steroid in the world that could make you absorb punches/ have a better chin. Pac has an ATG chin even with the the Marquez KO. He was able to take punches from all these bigger guys for the majority of his career.
The thing about this take is it's not accurate. In the first half of the fight Pacquiao was very respectful of Cotto's power. Cotto lost confidence after the first knockdown and Pacquiao took over. This notion that Pacquiao was walking down guys and battering them isn't really true. He wasn't like Margarito.
Man please you don't go up that many weight classes and knock guys out like it ain't nothing and just be walking through their punches
@@TexasT346 my friend was recently in a punching power study at University of St Mary's, Twickenham, London. He's bantamweight and his power level in Newton's for his jab+cross was equal to cruiserweight boxers (amateur and pro). Same happened with a welterweight Jiu Jitsu practitioner. Some people just hit hard.
Its a unmentioned fact Pacquiao was on PED'S
@@RoyalGuard4619 but his knockouts dried up after the Cotto testing became more of a thing around that time, he also claimed he was afraid of needles when Floyd asked for Olympic style testing hmmm I wonder why...
@@RoyalGuard4619 but surely he would of been knocking out everyone in a much lower weight classes never mind going up as much upto 154 and still taking shot like its nothing.. the punch power maybe true but you cant go up against much much bigger guys and still take huge shouts and still be bouncing around in the 12th round throwing over a 100 punches per round like Paulie explains here fatigue kicks in going up against those bigger guys
Great video and great insight
Skinny 175lbs - age 22..
Brick shithouse 210lbs - age 26 without an ounce of fat.
Evander Holyfield..
Thoughts Paulie??
I think enhanced drugs
Evander looked like he was juicing in MHO!💉💉🥊🥊
12:14 Paulie doesn't see this straight. Manny did win and lose. Just like Ali. He just destroyed his own point
Paulie always hated on Pac.
4:40 he finally gets to the point
😂😂
It has to be on the record for sure but I don't think it's a big deal do what you want it's just entertainment sports its not the Olympics but I'm pretty positive everyone has done something at some point or will to keep a solid edge
*Hardwork, Dedication*
No proof and no evidence but accused Pac of using steroids lol.
Paulie's proof is guessing or he said, she said. #lol
Pacquiao refused Olympic style drug testing
@@garrygarcia5008 he gets tested before and after the fights. Show me one positive test result.
@@Daojuan then why didn’t he agree to the olympic style drug testing lol that’s why the fight vs Floyd never happened in 2009
@@Daojuan And Pac agreed to all of Mayweather's diva drug testing demands by 2011 but Floyd still didn't want the fight
What evidence is there that pacman was juicing? Other than fighters with little to no power like paulie and Floyd making baseless accusations?
A blind man can see he was juicing stop the cap
@@tommytaylor7618 once again another dummy speaking w 0 evidence… just his emotions
Paulie had cocktails too despite never popping dirty
I love the honesty, I hate it when I get spoon fed Bulls... but paulie just says it how it is
I wonder what paulie thinks of canelo then…. He’s doing the same thing now. Moving up and down in weight stopping giants here and there
He's not doing the same thing. He's only a 4 division champion.
I definitely understand what Paulie is saying when it comes to the testing He was basically saying they just want to create a superstar. He is correct. It's all about the money instead of the protection of the fighters. He just didn't come out and say that. Probably because of the criticism and backlash if he would made that statement.
Your essentially saying Manny was protected. The Tim Bradley and Jeff Horn decisions belie those statements. I say it was just the opposite. Boxing took advantage of Manny because he was from another country yet bent over backwards to protect other fighters. Floyd showed up with the same IV Lance Armstrong used and Boxing looked the other way.
Same thing in athletics, everyone makes lots of money if you make lots of superstars that can beat testing and set the world alight with spectacular enhanced performances that the public naively think is naturally achieved
@@santosonly7 you’re a smart man
@@santosonly7 I was unaware of Floyd and him showing up with the same IV as Armstrong. As far as the Horn decision. He did not beat PAC Man. Bradley I'll agree with . Boxing is protecting image and marketing by creating superstars. I take nothing away from those guys abilities as great fighters, it's not about fighters like Manny protecting others it's about the sports governing bodies and regulations. Turning a blind eye to one and not the other , because they know the ability and how much revenue a fighter can make compared to other fighters.
@@rpm2085 Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not when you’re saying you’re unaware , but yes the night before the Manny fight Floyd was caught using an intravenous IV to inject 750 ml of saline and vitamins. If you are familiar with PEDs you would know why this is illegal and why it is strictly prohibited.
My first and only comment on this channel was simply a complaint about the asian dude being your #3 p4p. Also just watched your most overrated clip with Nes and you speak with so much conviction bro. Your take on pacman transferring into the current boxers shooting up is brilliant. Now im second guessing my choice of Spence over Bud. Spence is breaking faces. Maybe Bud is taking shots at the Charlos now because he suspects what you and Mayweather suspected about pacman. Your boxing experience coupled with the backstage VIP type stories is priceless. Not that sports politician "dont say too much" BS. Keep it up. P.S You better put Shakur high on your damn p4p list soon lol. BLESS
Well done.
Im neutral in what he’s saying but my only problem with Paulie is he never had the same energy towards Floyd when we all knew he was on stuff too. Only goes after Pacman and Canelo. Why? Because he has a personal problem or even jealousy.
Whatever. Never heard an inkling about Mayweather taking steroids. "We all knew." Speak for yourself, hombre.
@@agentchaos3947 So taking 750ml of illegal IVs without informing a commision when he took it inside his own house isnt a redflag?
@@rjplameras7435 Shut up. Go after Paulie not Mayweather. Mayweather didn't say anything, Paulie did. Don't drag him into this. Why does everyone with a Spanish name have something bad to say about Mayweather? You guys are pathetic haters. No matter how much you hate it, Mayweather beat Canelo, is a millionaire and is unapologetically who he is. Your pathetic display of hate, racism, jealousy or whatever it is won't change that.
@@agentchaos3947USADA was in deep with Mayweather. Suspicious TE levels in 2009 and more. You might cry if you discovered what your idol was injecting lol
Lmao paulie slipping in "canelo" towards the end, whenever suggests "canelo" is on peds everyone just jumps to call that person a hater but it's no secret he's been on something ever since the ggg rematch, he doesn't fade in fights anymore and he's just walking through guys in higher weights now too, just jumping up and down in weight with unlimited power and stamina lol
now say that without crying
Youre going to make Canelo fans cry
@Gio first off, I like Canelo. Second, did he popped for steroids use in the past? The answer to blind Canelo man fans, he’s he been positive for PEDs. Canelo fans take offense like babies
@@vansmoken4172 "canelo man fans" watch out everyone, we got a little boxing ego fanboy over here.
@Gio yeah because of history testing positive. I’m just saying
All the ATGS were on the sauce.
Before people go hating on Pauly let’s just appreciate somebody not sensoring themselves due to possible backlash from fans we need that man we really do
If they don't test year round everyone is suspect
Nate Diaz said it all these mfs are on steroids
I would like Paulie to talk about James Toney, Roy Jones, Holyfield, Mayweather, Mosley, Vitali, Povetkin, Fernando Vargas.. people who actually GOT caught using something cus he never talks about them. I understand what he says tho, all of them are on something, not neccesary steroids. It can be some type of supplements, or something like that. Anyways my believe is that Cotto was too drained because of the catchweight and that's why he was so weak against Pac. And i'm not bashing Pac, Floyd did the same with Canelo. The "A" sides. Canelo did it with Kovalev. Ray Leonard fought and knocked out Donny lalonde too, at a catchweight and Lalonde was way bigger than Sugar Ray.
Ali took pain shots. His personal Doctor said so.
cotto weighed against clottey at 146. He weighed Pacman at around 145 and was heavier post weigh-in. Cotto was arguably ranked the best welter at that time and Pacquiao walked through cotto despite moving up in weight. Give the guy some credit...
Hearns went down from jr. middle to welter at around 143 lbs (OR 145) yet I give Leonard every credit in the world in beating him, so why couldn't we with pac?
Floyd never “got caught using something” 🤡also why’d you leave out Canelo and Fury? Guys who actually failed for peds? Clown
@@matthewanthony4606 Looks like my comment struck a nerve on a Floyd fan. Just let it slide. Floyd got caught injecting 750 ml of IV's right in the butt
Paulie: You spoke for over ten minutes and didn’t say sh!t. Please on behalf of Filipinos world wide…KEEP MANNY’S NAME OUT YOUR FREAKING MOUTH. *Will Smith Voice*
The speed that kills which you dont have lady paulie
Lets talk about how the media allowed Floyd Mayweather to get away with a lot his cheating antics, something Paulie and everyone Mayweather fan won't address. But first, lets dive into all the fighters Floyd ducked!! He avoided a lot of fighters when he was in his prime, and he retired twice to do so. He didn't fight Cotto when Cotto was in his prime, and after Cotto beat Sugar Shane, it was perfect time to make the fight, but Floyd told the media Cotto wasn't a draw. He waited and when he finally fought him, Cotto already had been broken up by Margarito, and Pacquaio. Still good, but not the same guy and he knew this. He also avoided Antonio Margarito. Margarito pressed him about a fight and he said he would fight him, and he ducked him!! He now uses the excuse that Margarito was cheating, but no one knew at the time if he was loading his gloves, so that's an excuse he'll continue to use. Because if that's the case than Margarito cheated against Paul Williams, and Joshua Clottey as well. Margarito didn't knock Williams and Clottey out. He also ducked Paul Williams who not only wanted to fight Floyd but called him out on numerous occasions and he never once entertained it. Infact, Williams had openly said"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him. He felt Manny Pacquaio would fight him at that time before Floyd and Pacquaio was trying to fight him, but the only reason the fight didn't happen is because Williams got knocked out by Martinez. Floyd had plenty of opportunities to fight Williams but he ducked him!! And he was with Al Haymon too, so it was even easier for him to make that fight. Floyd also agreed to fight Winky Wright, and he ducked his way out of that one when he issued a rehydration clause that Winky couldn't weight over a certain limit, but Winky Agreed to the same day weigh-in and it would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But of course Mayweather pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things to ruin a big fight against someone who would of tested him.
And he can't use the excuse that Winky was too big because Winky was willing to go back down to 154 to fight Mayweather, the same weight Floyd fought OScar De La Hoya at, which was a money fight, but Winky was the true champion at that weight, undisputed junior middleweight. Oscar was a part time fighter and Floyd had a hard time with OScar when he was past his prime. Floyd also could of fought Kostya Tzu when he was active(I think Floyd would of beat him but he still didn't take the fight) Timothy Bradley when he was active and he was one of the top ww's at the time, Floyd never even mentioned his name. Floyd also ducked Keith Thurman when he was the number 1 contender for the WBA title that Floyd had and Floyd fought Andre Berto instead. Lol Floyd did fight Zab Judah but after Zab came off of a loss before he finally agreed to fight him, which didn't make any sense when he had Margarito and Williams there. Lol You also had Vernon Forrest out there too that Floyd could of fought when he was active. Forrest beat Baldomir too, you didn't see Floyd try and make that fight. And of course, Floyd waited 5 years to finally fight Pacquaio when the fight was supposed to be made in 2010. You're saying it was Pacquaio's fault, but lets clear that myth up for the viewers. And now lets dive into the blood testing since there's a narrative with that and the cheating Floyd did. He claimed Pacquaio didn't want to blood test, and that's not true!! Pacquaio at first wanted the commission to do the blood testing, not an outside agency, but Floyd didn't want to do that, he wanted his outside agency USADA that everyone knows was on his payroll(They didn't know at that time) to do all the blood testing and USADA is the same agency that the Olympic athletes were beating(Angel Herida exposed them and it's why Marquez only wanted to use USADA when he was juicing going into that Bradley fight) because they don't do carbon isotope testing. And this was even spoke about after the Mosley fight in 2010 that he would fight him as long as the commission did the blood testing. But to get back to USADA, USADA never did or does do Carbon isotope testing and they allow a 6.1 limit , however VADA does do carbon isotope testing and it's why Floyd never used VADA because he knew he would of popped because they only allowed a 4.1. limit and they did carbon isotope testing, something Pacquaio was doing for a good portion of his ww career when he adhered to the VADA testing.
Also Floyd lied to the people saying he drug tested all year round and that's also another lie because he would only drug test after his fights were announced. He got people fooled!! Pacquiao took him to court and subpoenaed his drug test results because of Floyd's accusations and Floyd settled, and I wonder why? Lol Was he hiding something? Why didn't the media address that? Lol As for the fight, when the fight was announced, Floyd did everything in his power to make sure he won that fight because he was always afraid of Manny and it's why we never got a rematch after that bullshit ass let down of a fight. Floyd had the judges, ref, venue, and drug testing agency(USADA because he didn't want VADA to do the testing for the fight) all in his favor. Now lets get to the cheating. Floyd Mayweather got a intravenous IV infusion after the weigh in which was illegal and he did that as a masking agent pumping 750 mill liters of saline and Vitamin C in his blood and he waited 30 days to finally announce he did it. And for the people who aren't aware, look up Thomas Hauser who wrote an article on PEDS and Floyd's illegal TUE!! So after Floyd got the illegal intravenous IV infusion, he got TUE for it and that wasn't the first time he got a TUE from USADA. He got it in the Mosley fight and Cotto fight for getting flagged. But did you hear the media talking about that? Lol Nope!! He never got penalized and Nevada allowed him to get away with it, just like they allowed him to get away with the intravenous IV infusion in the Pacquaio fight. And btw, Pacquaio's team asked to do the VADA but of course, Floyd didn't want to do it. He also was allowed to get lidocaine shots in his hands but Pacquaio wasn't allowed to get the Toradol shot in his shoulder which Floyd knew about the injury before hand which he admittedly spoke on.
We all know Floyd had something to do with that shit because Nevada pampered his ass all them years from all the money he brought into Vegas and the brown nosing he was doing with higher ups. People with eyes ain't stupid. That's why he never fought outside of Las Vegas, because he knew if he did, other venues wouldn't of allowed him to get away with what he wwas getting away with in Vegas.
So if you're gonna accuse Manny of taking PEDS, you need to look in the mirror at your homeboy Floyd Money Mayweather who's the biggest cheater of the last decade!!
Nobody is reading your essay. 🤡
Sounds like your feelings got hurt lol
@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba dude wrote a whole book. Lol. Ain’t nobody reading that long bs!
@@calfrye5343 2 lines and I was done , I could see he was too emotionally involved
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I only read half of the first sentence 😂 and just the last sentence 💀
this is crazy. WBC WBO IBF WBA man, they all need to get their shit together. if they joined together and made the sport clean, it would be so much better.
ALEX ARIZA SHAKES.
How has Pacquiao never failed a test….?
Canelo did so don’t give me it’s because of who he is and the level of status he has in the boxing world.
Pacquiao is a freak of nature and a one off. It’s as simple as that.
If they are all on it then they are all on the same even level.
And Pacquiao was the most tested fighter of his generation. Even was tested more than Floyd. I think Floyd (by extension to Paulie) was just jealous of Manny's accomplishments (i.e. risk risk, high reward type fights).
Pacquiao refused Olympic style drug testing. That’s why the mayweather fight happened so late
@@lilpenny1982 what ?? pacroid said after losing to morales that the blood test drained him and thats why he dont like needles during training camp
@Gabriele Squaratti so why did the other guys failed??? Canelo failed
@@garrygarcia5008 facts!
I did find it odd that Pac went from being dropped by flyweights to taking flush shots from power hitting welterweights like no problem. Guys like Cotto and Margarito were dropping everybody at 147 yet Pacquaio took their shots like nothing and was hurting them. What other fighter been able to move up that many weight classes and do that? That would be like Canelo moving up to bridgerwright and knocking out 220 pound guys.
Yea a little suspect, he fought bivol and looked like a welterweight hitting a light heavyweight for sure , he cut the clen out of his diet for sure
Facts this the part everybody ignores yea its not impossible to COMPETE well and beat naturally bigger guys but to get knocked out by smaller guys and walk thru bigger guys is just unheard of thats like me slapping you and you go unconscious and than me hitting you with a brick and your just fine lmao
@@lildbabyy2541that was the malnourished Pac. Pac at 147 was still the smaller guy but he was at his best weight. He walks around at 156+. Look at his family members, they’re all the same build, same calves, same sized head. Does that mean they all took peds? 😂 be fr
Yup
Coto had no chance with that weight cut. He had a lot against him…
Not to mention he was fresh off that margarito cast beat down. V
Paulie does the talking, Many does the walking.
Some of the best insight and knowledge in boxing today sir. Keep up the good work Paulie
Notice how this whole video is paulie claim what manny did was impossible because most ppl can’t which out using drugs. Paulie the type of dude that think Kevin Durant is only 7 ft tall cause he took drug, and nothing to do his genetic….. if drug makes manny do what he did, than everyone would be like manny. It’s been 12 year since the cotto fight, did his drug disappear or sth… why ain’t no one on that shit 😂
@@BKbomber92 he got caught when?
@@BKbomber92 Not true at all. In fact Manny sued Floyd for defamation of character and Pacquiao won. Which is why Floyd stopped stating outright that Manny was on PEDs.
@@BKbomber92 Do you know Manny Pacquiao never failed a drug test
You missed the entire point of what Paulie was saying lol
@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba He did Paulie been saying this for years because Paulie don't believe people can do impossible feats. Hey I love him as a fighter but that's why hes at the level he was at and he won't be an all time great.
Is using the same logic, That means that the Michael Jordan retired it wouldn't be no Kobe Bryant or lebron James because they wouldn't try to strive to do great and impossible things.
Pauli u always speak about Pac but u never mentioned Mayweather with the I.v or other things about Mayweather.
The IV incident always seemed suspicious. Mayweather claimed to be dehydrated. Why was he dehydrated if he is naturally a junior welterweight...
paulie girlfriend got stolen by Andrien Broner and she never came back
100% you're Filipino 😂
Pauli won that fight! He got robbed!🤫🥊🇮🇹🇺🇲😔
@@tomscerbo1588 yup just like Marquez. no matter how many times Pacman beat him, he's always believed he got robbed, even after getting whooped by Bradley, and wanted Bradley to give him a rematch because he said he got robbed.
He's just jealous 🤣🤣
The clinch example... pac never clinched through out his whole career tho
@@rossjaredt.delrosario2535 fair.. I don't really remember but I could believe it. But it's still rare... he just really ain't the clinching dude haha because he's always able to out gun his opponent.
All of them are on something. You got fighters who go up and down 2 or 3 weigh classes.
Cotton VS Pacquiao was a 145lb catch weight fight 2lb makes a difference for a fighter like cotton that was already 147lb for a while