Movies That People Still Don't Understand
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Have you ever shown a friend a movie only to hear them say "I don't get it," as the credits roll? Look, everyone has their own tastes and that’s great - but sometimes the confusion and disconnect actually comes from the movie itself being intentionally confusing, high-concept, or just clumsily made. Let's go over some of these films that make people say "huh?", and pat ourselves on the back for the ones we know inside and out. Spoilers ahead!
Arrival | 0:26
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice | 1:36
Only God Forgives | 2:59
Prometheus | 4:03
The Butterfly Effect | 4:59
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Which of these movies do you have a clearer understanding about after watching this video?
I've read a theory that The Butterfly Effect was all in Ashton's characters mind, because he is insane, just like his father, and that all the events are him trying to cope with killing his girlfriend and being abused by her dad.
Looper do people even pay attention to Batman Superman there so much bias no matter what Marvel does you guys celebrate now squirrels girl who many say was the worst superhero is getting a live-action treatment and it seems no matter what DC does you don't like it .I understand Batman v Superman perfectly has his faults all movies do but just not deserve the hate that you and everyone else keeps giving it the Martha scene was very well done and made a lot of sense to me fun fact Geoff Johns wrote that scene
Agreed with Thomas, BvS may not be perfect but there is a TON of fan service in that movie. Sounds like you guys are just jumping on the bandwagon of hate. The flash backs, dream sequences, etc. are clear, if you have read comics.
Clay McDonald true that ...that makes more sense then Starlet which power and it's supposed to be the future not a dream
Looper promethus was awesome i totally got it. If u didnt get it you suck
Who seriously doesn't understand Arrival?
MegaAnitoon dumb people don't.. who doesn't understand butterfly effect?.. i mean yes some scenes may be wrong but we do "understand" it..
absolutely ... it was all spoken in that movie ...
tbf there was a paradox
@jatin Arrival didn't have any butterfly effect...time isn't linear in that movie
yes just flashbacks from future makes bit mess ....
The reason many don't understand many of these movies is because they spend more time talking through them rather than watching and listening!
I'm sure there is an aspect of being a poor audience that is at play. So many films are written with the lowest common denominator in mind that they spend a lot of screen time re-iterating information so people who checked out and back in somewhere along the way can play catch up to whats happening. They seem to be written more like TV shows which make sure to catch the audience back up to the action after every commercial break.
Michael Schinke I think people want a rewind button & closed captions when they go to a movie.
I get where people are coming from; it's just disappointing. As much as movies have thrown at them people seem to have lost the ability to understand the language of cinema as a storytelling form. What I find immensely frustrating is how people will constantly crow about, "show; don't tell" and then go on to display a startling inability to follow a series of images if there are no words associated with them. I don't know if this is because people don't pay attention to the imagery and have learned to rely on dialog to tell them what's happening or if people really don't understand how images can be used to tell a story.
I guess that there are several factors involved in that... cultural differences sometimes, languajes differences (yes, the irony -_-) and a shorter spawn attention of the new generations because the actual comunication devices and culture of fast, easy and now).
08wolfeyes YESS thank you! I fucking hate people that do that. When I watched Arrival with friends of mine I loved it and they were like "huh? Can You Explain it to me?"
Loved The Butterfly Effect. It might have some plot holes but who cares? Still a great film.
I liked the Butterfly Effect also even if you like you say it has some Plot Holes. I never saw any of the Sequels which I don't think had Ashton Kutchner in them.
What? Butterfly Effect was fucking awesome -_-
The title needs to be retitled "5 Movies LOOPER Doesn't Understand" because honestly there is no reason Arrival or BvS need to be on this list.
Looper is a twat
sherlock holmes it’s not just the name but Batman realizes that Superman has a mother, and a human family. He finally gets that he isn’t just an alien here to destroy the world
And do you think that Bruce would have felt right after hearing a mother with the same name as his mom was about to die, that would probably be an awful flashback
He's talking about the theatrical version of BVS. The extended cut filled the holes and was more understandable for first time DC watchers.
The extended cut didn't fix shit, DC supporters need to stop using "extended cuts" as a crutch to defend the shitty DCEU releases
The butterfly effect is awesome .
It's one of my favorite movies :)
Right? The movie is great and easily understandable to anyone paying a little attention. Also it has Amy Smart in it! Come on!
No, The Butterfly Effect is utterly stupid. I was so angered watching it. The guy has the ability to change time, yet he does the dumbest things one after the another, just so they can end the movie with his self-sacraficing gesture. If he took a second to think his actions thru, he would realize how his actions in the past would affect his present. It wasn't about butterfly effect, as pretty much all of his actions pretty clearly led to where they ended up.
That's why it's so entertaining. It's like watching an existential version of Jackass. Movie was funny and heart wrenching as hell.
You sound so smart, yet I doubt you could have done better in the protagonist shoes
Who desn't understand Arrival? They literally exlplain it in th end
Victor Alfonso Angeles Yep, this, exactly!
I didn't understand it
vadeepest07 The aliens talk with or through time. They don’t talk in the present necessarily. Or their language let’s you see the future. Something like that. It’s been a while.
Exactly. The aliens were there to teach humanity their language, which with it comes the profound understanding of time, light-year travel, etc.
it's a strange loop.
Actually, Only God Forgives does make sense. You just got to dig into it. It's an analyzing movie.
Most of Refns movies are like that.
David J I agree
If they were confused by 'Only God Forgives', I sure hope they haven't seen 'Valhalla Rising'. The end of that movie would probably shut their brains down for good.
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So, you understand Only God Forgives? No fcking way man, no fcking way!
Well said
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sherlock holmes Zack Snyder explained the reason wasn't so much the same name but the fact he has a mother and is so much more worried about her than their fight. It made Batman realize he's much more human than he thought and in that moment he was about to murder a "human" not too different from him.
Still a shit script tho
This list could have been amazing, with films like The Shining which genuinely are still debated.
James Ede i was hoping to see 2001: a space oddysey on here..what a bad list
Love "The Shining", but don't know what there is to debate about it, the story was pretty simple to follow/undertand.
Randall Brooks the literal storyline is, yes, very easy to understand. typical cabin fever horror story. its when you start to dig into all the symbolism hidden within the shining that it begins to become a thinkpiece. watch the documentary Room 237; its on netflix. it explains what im trying to say much better
Mike, I am very familiar with the documentary film "Room 237". and all I can say about it is that is nothing but people with nothing better to do with their time trying to make something out of nothing, sorry.
The key things people debate are:
Is the hotel actually haunted?
If so did Jack get out of the pantry?
Does anything supernatural ever occur in the story?
What is the meaning of the picture at the end scene?
Plus many many more things. I'd submit that the answers to those questions are anything but simple - but I welcome your input! :)
People at Looper: while BvS was a bit confusing in general, it was a perfect follow up to Man of Steel and has some great thematic elements throughout. Clearly the movie doesn't have a straightforward plot structure as many other comic book movies tend to have. In the movie, Bruce Wayne is old and experienced compared to other batman flicks. From Superman's perspective, in Man of Steel, he was a brand new hero and still testing his powers. That is one of the main reasons why he destroyed so much. Superman also thinks that he had no choice but to kill Zod. Compare this to Bruce's perspective, to him, Superman is a trigger happy alien coming to earth with tremendous power. Superman has just destroyed most of a city, and blatantly killed his enemy. To Bruce, this completely dehumanizes Superman. Another thing complained about in BvS was the "Martha" scene. What changed Bruce's mind is not that they have the same mother's name, but because he realizes that Superman even has a mother, thus humanizing Superman. Once Bruce realizes that Superman is a human too, he thinks back to all of the other moments in the film that he killed criminals outright. Just as in the Dark Knight, Bruce realizes again that you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. He notices that he has completely lost his ethics and has become an emotionless crime fighting machine. As for what motivates Wonder Woman... uh... I hope we see in the Wonder Woman movie (which really should have been released before BvS). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If i'm not mistaken, the whole part where Bruce realizes that he lost his morals/ethics continues ot Justice League, with many people noting that the Batmobile no longer have any guns on it.
Why do people think this movie is confusing ?? It is understood from the beginning why the two of them do not get along....
Batman drives a hell of a nice car while Superman drives an old rusty pickup truck
I loved Prometheus! Answers left open does not mean movie failure. It leaves your imagination working, if you have one that is. I hope the follow up takes us more places!
it hate it when ppl do that... no my story isnt bad "it jsut leaves things open to your imagination"...by this logic i dont even need to give any explanations for anything i just leave it to ppl imagination
I thought Butterfly Effect was awesome cult classic...
Some says so, tho I don't understand why. It's an utterly stupid movie. The guy has the ability to change time, yet he does the dumbest things one after the another, just so they can end the movie with his self-sacraficing gesture. If he took a second to think his actions thru, he would realize how his actions in the past would affect his present. It wasn't about butterfly effect, as pretty much all of his actions pretty clearly led to where they ended up. And the most angering thing, there would have been plenty of easy solutions to the problem, but he didn't even try either.
sgtGiggsy name one solution, please!
I saw that stupid movie more than ten years ago. I don't remember 90% of it, only that I got mad with every move he made, cause I knew exactly how they'd end up, and he completly avoided the logical solutions.
sgtGiggsy Umm... ok then. thanks for the input.. I guess.
Arrival was a really solid sci-fi movie, that I would definitely recommend, but I wouldn't say it's "too smart" for someone. The movie tells you several times that time isn't linear. Then it connects our linear language to our linear perspective, then as the protagonist's understanding of language changes her perspective on time chances too. The premise might seem odd, but it just asks for the audience to suspend their disbelief a little.
What ?
Damn!
Enemy is another film that I think a lot of people had a hard time understanding
I don't think Looper understand's these movies.
Looper Looser
Butterfly Effect is one of my all time favorites, i have probably seen it at least 10 times, its one of those movies you can watch over and over again and still appriciate something new.
I love the butterfly effect, it may have a few plot holes but still does very well to convey the message of have no regrets. There's no point thinking about what might have been if you had done something different in your life, make the most of now.
Gotta throw this out there: I loved Prometheus...But I've never seen any of the other Alien films (still haven't).
I’ve seen them all and I loved Prometheus
@@gvines Seconded.
What about shutter Island ?
Triangle ?
Machinist ?
Inception ?
Psycho ?
And predestination
whats confusing about Psycho? I get shutter island ,What about Coherence,totally confusing for me.
dont give Looper such movies, his head will blow up :D
@@PB-mp7qt I watched coherence because of you , thank you 🌻
@@Tom-oi8fy I,m glad you enjoyed it. I may try it again .thanks
How in the hell could you not understand any of these?
The Martha moment was due to the fact that them having something in common humanized Superman in Batman's eyes, he was no longer some big threat but someone with a mom and dad.
After acting like a hipster who "understands movies" with the movie prior and saying the only reason that movie didn't do as good was for that, then not understanding a "simple movie" like batman vs superhuman, fucking trash.
The Phrase "serious actor Ashton Kutcher" made me laugh out loud. Thanks Looper.
Sorry Looper, Butterfly Effect is brilliant, even with with it's misgivings
This video is ridiculous.
5 Movies That People Should Don't Understand hahha
Ok let me explain Batman v Superman..
The dream sequences - These are Batman's nightmares, however because of the Omega signs, it is also an easter egg for Superman's Regime story and Darkseid.
Jessie as Lex - He is Lex Luthor Junior, not Lex Luthor. He mentions that he is junior, and that his father built this company and he inherited it. So the father must be the original Lex because who else would name a company Lexcorp.
Martha Scene - Batman always figured Superman as an inhuman powerhouse, that he has no emotions, no family, no home. However because Batman was traumatised from young and he loved his mother, he was shocked to hear his mother's name said by a monster. After Louis tells him that Martha is Superman's mother, and seeing his girlfriend, he realises that Superman has family and has emotions. Finally seeing the human in Superman, he realises that he is becoming the monster he had sworn to protect Gotham from, going around killing whoever he feels threatening like an inhuman killer (You can infer this with the broken voice changer, making Batman sound like a monster). So he saves Superman mother out of guilt and to forgive Superman.
However we can all agree that the Martha scene was weird and uncomfortable. It definitely could've been done better, but this is just to tell you guys the meaning behind it.
i think Martha wanted to screw Batman.
This title is wrong. The video was more like "5 movies I didn't understand so I'm just gonna call them dumb and move on"
Adam from YMS is that you ?
"We were desperate for content, so we decided to slam achievements we'll never have ourselves. ever."
I do not get it, these films are so simple. If you wanna real mystery for a watching, try Primer (2004).
You can watch this film 20x times and still don't understand the plot.
Only after some video analysis that is longer that movie itself and tons of articles, you would maybe grasp the plot, but final understanding comes after lot of reasearch and few years maybe.
Hint: do not try that, it is pretty fucked up (but rewarding :D), for me, the best time travel film ever made.
Memento takes away frankly. Even the writers and the book writer did not give any explanation
I loved Primer (partly because of how hard it was to follow)
I was about to mention primer till I saw your post. Even when you Google the timelines you get lost. Awesome movie. Love time travel movies. Triangle, time lapse, looper.
thanks for the hint of primer, sound juicy ;-)
Am I the only one that really enjoyed Prometheus?
Kingofnails Music no I thought it was very good
Good, I'm glad ! it's not a perfect film but it doesn't deserve the hate
Kingofnails Music i enjoyed it.
I think it's a flawless movie and don't understand all the hate for it either!
No you are not.
uhhhhmmm Donnie Darko?
Clifton Barnes Donnie leaves his house saving his life from the jet engine. This causes an alternative reality which will end on Halloween. He lives it out and tries to learn about time travel and wants to know how to cheat death again. But he learns that he himself can save the world by killing himself. The scenes with grammar death frank and his girlfriend play out. And he views the storm coming this is the “end of the world” he then sends the jet engine back i time with his mind (I know it’s not explained) and kills himself while that world ends the real world carries on except Donnie dies and as mentioned earlier in the film it’s quite said but he dies all in his own which is something he never wanted to do after he saw grandma death. Its a good film please watch videos explaining this film better than I did. It would be too much of a read. Many theories are that he remembers both timelines and that’s why he’s laughing because he did cheat death to only learn that you simply can’t. But idk it’s mostly up to your own interpretation.
Arrival was an extremely impressive movie, especially for being such a recent one. It has a clever plot/story,, it doesn't stoop to cliches and it still has an ending that it thought-provoking, unexpected, beautiful and sad all at the same time. Glad you reminded me of it.
For the record with Batman vs Superman, the reason that "Martha" works is because Batman did not see Superman as a man, he saw him as some foreign being who could destroy the Earth, hearing that he had a mother a woman who raised and loved him gave him a since of the amount of Love one has and that taking that from her would do the same thing to her, that it had done to him......the name Martha gave his villian a face
SERIOUSLY the Name Martha has NOTHING to do with Batman stopping his Mission to kill Superman it is simply the Fact that Superman has a Mother
Bruce has until then only seen Superman as this Godlike Powerfull beein that can basically do whatever it wants and he was so focused on his "mission" that he never realised (until then) that Superman also has a Human side and a Family (or at least a mother) that loves him and that he also loves since the last thing that Superman thinks of before he is about to die is his Mother
AND THAT is what makes Batman realise that Superman isn't a selfish God that likes to play Savior and may at one Point turn against Earth but instead is just as "human" as normal Humans
I'm not saying it's the best Reason to End the Fight like that (The Dark Knight Ending with old Batman having a heart attack and faking his death after defeating Superman is much better)
But nobody seems to realise that IT IS NOT THE FUCKING NAME that makes Bruce stop but that Superman isn't what he thought he is (A selfish God that like to be praised as Savior and may turn against Earth) but a truly caring individual that moments before his death still thinks about other People instead of himself and has love for someone else (his mother) instead of hate for the Person that is about to kill him or other "self related thoughts"
Damn right!
EASY7356 Which is why he then goes on to murder a bunch of dudes. What a tight script!
Brian Sager the Script ist complete BS XD
Ted Bundy had a mother what does having a mother have to do with if Superman is a threat to earth or not?
That script is garbage, but honestly if done right the "Martha" scene could've been remembered as a great scene. Batman's morality is fucking awkward. I'll leave this here, Batman figured out who the other super heroes true identity, strength and weaknesses all on his own, why because he's the world's greatest detective. Superman is a journalist, none of these dudes did any research on each other and if they did, then they would've came to logical conclusions rather the solely relying on force and emotions.
That's the difference between the comic and movie characters. Even a broken Batman in the comics make more sense than this. Lex, Superman and Batman were all poorly done, and both super heroes could've never been toyed with by Lex so easily with such a silly convoluted plan!
Butterfly Effect was a great movie with an awesome concept.
It's not that hard at all to understand and everything is explained in the movie
Arrival was pretty simple. The fountain on the other hand should be on here, along with cloud atlas. Two movies that tried really hard to create coherent connections over different time lines and eventually failed horribly.
The Fountain was just ...dumb.
what about memento ? i need to explain it like, everytime, when any of my friends watch it for the first time.
Prometheus was a good movie. Also, Arrival is easy to get. The aliens came to give humanity a weapon and its a language that transcend time. The Aliens said that in the future they will need humanity;s help. dadsadsadadasdasd
This is the reason why we got a dumb down Ghost in the Shell live action.
Agreed. I don't think people are dumb but I do think they are intellectually lazy. The fact that Hollywood is so averse to negative push back that they keep playing into the ever sucking downward spiral of intellectual laziness is the problem.
I think it's a positive feedback loop. I don't think much about movies because almost all movies are so dumb that thinking about them only makes them worse.
blippi blipblop the ghost in the shell live action was good, just because it didn't align fully with the source material doesn't make it a bad movie
That movie was pretty good visually. Forget the plot and u can enjoy the beauty..
It's not the movies, people are dumb.
Mulholland Drive threw me for a loop when I first saw it, far more than something like Butterfly Effect.
Again with the Martha scene , im beginning the think people intetionally dont want to understand BvS just so they can keep hating
.but good thing people are still talking about DCEU & forgot about the last MCU films
I don't think it was the fact that Batman and Supermans moms names were the same that stopped him. I understood it as Batman coming to the realization that Superman even had a mother and their names being the same just kind of made him realize that...it humanized Superman in a way that Batman hadn't seen before. That being said, I'm really just playing Devils advocate because I thought it was pretty stupid and corny too and a pretty messy film. I was pleasantly surprised by Afflecks portrayal of Batman though.
On "the Martha moment": What happens there is basically that Batman realizes that in what would be his dying moments, Supermans greatest worry was the fate of a human being, and that this level of selflessness actually don't jibe well with the idea of Superman as a threat to humanity. To me, Batman vs Superman makes perfect sense.
And why the HELL should a dream sequence have to be explained? It is fairly self explanatory. Do we need to watch Bruce Wayne brush his teeth and put on his pajamas to realize this happens in his sleep? Give me a break!
I believe “Vanilla Sky” with Tom and Penelope Cruz and Cameron Diaz would have been a good one for the list.
I seriously don't understand how people don't get the "Martha scene" it's not that their mothers share the same name it's the fact that Superman showed more concern for her life than he did his own, he showed Bruce that he's human.
David Luckins great explanation
David Luckins Its easy enough to understand and it's central to why Batman stops fighting Superman but it's just poorly executed.
bigger question why do they have the same name
In what way? I'm genuinely curious, the only criticism I see of the scene is "haha they have the same name that's so dumb" and that's just mind numbing, I would like to hear at least a well thought out criticism.
It's because, just before the Martha scene, Batman mentions Superman's parents. He says, "I bet your parents taught you you mean something". This means he acknowledges his parents, and still wants to kill him. He is so clear on that matter.
Then why does he suddenly abandon all of that because their mother has the same name.
Prometheus was so good though...
Agreed
The Butterfly Effect is amazing....it shows several truths we don't like to acknowledge. First, we don't accurately remember events in our own lives. When the main character goes back in time to fix problems, it takes many tries before he realizes HE and his presence in these situations contributes to the problems! None of us want to know that. Also...there is an old truth that the people who run together in a pack influence each other's behavior. No matter how hard he tries to fix his mistakes, as long as he continues to hang out with his childhood buddies, all of them have their lives destroyed, over and over, in every scenario. Some people really should not be together. The happy ending comes when he realizes he can't get what he wants; a life with the childhood love he lost. But by letting her go, everyone has a happy ending. *** Deep stuff. Serious stuff. Only a pea brain could not appreciate this.
I know you can subscribe to channels on youtube but how can you block them from ever appearing ?
I disagree with much of this. Prometheus is brilliant. It is more subtle than many movies these days and it speaks in symbolism. Alien covenant is not distancing itself it is a direct continuation.
butterfly effect was a great movie man.
but that scene where that bastard was taking pictures of the young girl pissed me off!
promestus was a good understandable movie.
the movie that should be included which makes no sense is Donnie Darko:/
Only God Forgives is a masterpiece. Nicolas Winding Refn is an amazing director.
going to watch it again tonight.
I watched 2013s "Enemy" and loved it, the next day a buddy sent me this explanatory video about the film and I have to say, I didn't understood shit.
I'm not sure you understood Arrival, or if I just saw it differently. I thought that the aliens' gift to humanity was their language, which would enable them to experience time circularly the way they do. That's why Adam's character was seeing into her future and able to prevent the attack by calling the Chinese leader. Despite realising her daughter's death and separation from her husband were in the future, she still chose to love Renner's character and, presumably, accept her fate.
Yeah, that's pretty much the only interpretation to take from the film. It's a great film, but it's not all that complicated.
holy shit i just realized that the now and then scenes are mixed because time is circular
and with this in mind, i guess ill have to read the book
dont get me wrong i was internally hollering for the entire week that followed my watching this movie, it was genius
I liked the butterfly effect...
damn i actually love Only God Forgives. the minute u sit back and look at it as an allegory, it comes together a bit easier. plus the music is incredible!
Good to see Looper knows what happens when you alter the time line. /s
Everybody with average or high IQ understands Arrival...
donnie darko?
I really enjoyed the arrival twist. But I feel like the idea was too smart for many to grasp.
some one please explain the movie "Walkabout" for me, because dang that one i've puzzled over for years
The only part of the butterfly effect that didn't maintain its internal logic was the prison passion of the christ hand scars scene. Everything else worked out just fine. You want to rag on a time travel movie that makes no fucking sense in the end... primer. Dont get me wrong, good movie, watched it several times, and it still doesn't make any fucking sense.
the prison stigmata scene made PERFECT sense. He only had a couple pages to work with and he did the very best he could with the tiny data he had to work with.
hey Sherlock ! where's Mulholland Dr
arrival got me bored walking into the theater and fanboying and screaming for the week that followed me watching it im sorry it was beautiful have a great day
whenever i think of endings people don't understand i always think of LOST.
got more convoluted every season.
I would have chosen Neon Demon over Only Good Forgives.
The Neon Demon is a really good film.
i didn't see Supes v Bats in the theatre so the cut i saw was the extended one. I thoroughly enjoyed it, i think alot of the problems people had with the movie are key scenes missing in that cut.
I also loved Man of Steel and felt the majority of people bashing it didn't really get it. The killing and destruction are so easily explained, but apparently still alot of people missed it.
I only saw the extended cut and hated it, your argument is invalid.
@@Toolsquatch it's clearly not invalid on general point of view( not just yours)
@@atomixman5327 No, it *is* invalid: his argument hinges on the ultimate version fixing the issues the theatrical version had, that isn't the case.
I really liked Only God forgives and to this day I still think its one of the most underrated movies of all time. It's not because of the plot though, but the cinematography/visuals, soundtrack etc that gives it some kind of charm
Arrival is such a good movie and the ending is perfect. maybe people just need to watch it a few more times to get it but for me, I understood it perfectly.
The Arrival was bad ass, should of won best pic...
Der Verschollene hell yeah!
should of gibts nicht und der film war ziemlich langweilig ;-)
Der Verschollene Terrible mediocre oscar bait.
What about the movie makes you think that?
Tony Taco The overused dead kid story, and the clash between the movie trying to be an ominous and mysterious alien movie and an oscar bait drama about a woman coping with the death of her child.
Clickbaity rubbish and i come away feeling all dirty again. Got to quit Looper.
DeanKnight333 Looper...not even once!
I'm pretty sure you spent more time complaining about the one inconsistency in The Butterfly Effect rather than why people would find it confusing. (They wouldn't. It's pretty straightforward)
i understood every movie on this list (had to watch chris stuckmanns analyzing only god forgives though) still havent watched donnie darko.
ITS NOT ABOUT THE NAME THE REASON WHY BATMAN SAVED MARTHA...............THE REASON IS THAT SUPERMAN'S DYING WISH WAS TO SAVE A HUMAN, THE SPECIES BATMAN BELIEVED SUPERMAN IS AGAINST.......BECAUSE OF THIS, HE SAW THE HUMAN INSIDE SUPERMAN AND REALIZED THAT SUPERMAN WAS FIGHTING FOR HUMANS!!!!!
I think it was more of a state interrupt. Bruce was traumatized by losing his mother so when he heard the name he didn't know what to think. he automatically associated it with his own mother and then when loise said it was Clark's mother it made Bruce see Clark as a real person with humanity. classic psychology nlp pattern interrupt.
oh dude you forget about mulholland drive..
I'm still trying to figure out the significance of the blue box in Mullholland Drive. I know David Lynch movies are impossible to truly understand I feel like I almost got it but after seeing it twice I still don't really know for sure what happened.
prometheus was deep and awesome. so much ideas and connections ot old allien movies. genius
Why wasn't DONNIE DARKO in there??????
Batman vs Superman was no one's introduction into the DC Universe. Everyone knows who Batman is, everyone knows who Superman is. Everyone who has access to a movie theater, anyway.
Access to a movie theater.. or a computer... or a TV.. or a bookstore... or a toy store......
I find it so funny that people complained that we didn't need an origin movie for Batman and we could just jump right in to his story and then complained that it didn't make sense to take such, "drastic liberties" with the character (they didn't even, though) without letting us get to know him first. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
They have an origin story for Batman in Batman begins and on Gotham TV show so why do they need another one. How do people not know who Batman is?
iirc this is the first batman movie made by dc since around the adam west time. the dark knight trilogy was not done by dc
There is also the setting up of the emotional resonance between the death of his parents an dthe attack in Metropolis that resulted in the loss of Wayne Financial. Also the narration over the opening is vitally important in informing Bruce's character in the movie.
"There was a time before, a time above. There were perfect things; diamond absolutes. But things fall, things on earth. And what falls is fallen."
And in reference to the bats,
"In the dream they took me into the light. A beautiful lie."
I will freely admit I didn't really fully grasp how important this narration was until I was speaking with some other interested fans. The narration fits with and supports Bruce's arc in the film and shows that this is not just a re-hashing of the origin but an important part of setting up the character and where he is, emotionally, in the movie. If someone wants to dismiss this or see the Metropolis battle as just a flashback, or think it's merely saying, "This is why Bruce hats Superman" then I think a lot of what is going on in the movie will not work for them.
But that is not the movies fault. It's right there, on the screen. One just has to be willing to see it.
simplejack891
The Dark Knight trilogy is made by DC/Warner Bros...unlike Marvel, DC has all their character rights for every media platform.
You should have included The Babadook because at least half of the people who watched it took the ending as what they literally saw so they really didn´t get it was a metaphor and not to be taken by image only. Also Cloud Atlas. I mean I got it, it took me like the first hour of the movie to understand it but in the end I got the whole thing, yet I keep knowing of people who don´t get it at all or just partially.
I loved arrival and I can't believe no one have understood the movie, it was self explanatory. They also talked about Sapir-Whorf hypothesis which is the core of the movie basically.
I will explain the "Martha scene":
When Batman heard Superman saying her name he had a throwback to the killing of his parents, because it was his father's last words. Seeing himself as the man who murdered his parents was enough to throw him out of his "obsession"/"hunt".
Funny thing is I thought you guys planed to explain this to people and give something more to think, but haters gonna hate.
Look the dislike button, you lose fans if you keep on hating.
I think BvS is a amazing movie, has it's flaws of course, but it makes up with heart and the message of hope.
marcelo,
i walked out of the theater very disappointed, but the Martha scene was something I was totally fine with. I mean yea, its easy to make fun of and i'll laugh at jokes too. but if you just look at it by its surface, you get nothing. theres a deeper meaning present. and if your not a thinker, you wont get it lol. i was disappointed for legitimate reasons. however, most of those reasons were resolved after watching the 3 hour cut. i loved it after that.
I don't even know why people hate Batman V Superman, or why Man of Steel is so underrated.
#1 should be John Dies at The End
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Dawn of Justice and Prometheus were both great, i dont know why people are hating on these movies. Especially the portrayal of Lex Luthor in Justice, it showed real depth. I think sometimes people are just looking for action and no plot, surprised that Donnie Darko or Twelve Monkeys werent on here, some of my favorite movies. Not all movies have to make complete sense, some you appreciate in other ways.
I'm a huge fan of Donnie Darko and I kinda expected it to be on this list. I don't find it confusing but it seems a lot of people do. I'm okay with being confused by a movie, but it makes me sad when people say a movie was bad and their only reason was because they don't understand it and aren't willing to try to understand it.
Hi Im Craiggerz I totally agree witth you
Bad Ledger Joker impression ≠ real depth
Only God Forgives and Prometheus are very misunderstood viewers want everything spelled out to them
watch cinemawins batman vs superman at least twice and you will get and understand everything including the Martha thing, there is a deep meaning behind the Martha thing
I don't understand how someone could not understand the ending from these movies. Are they dumb or something?
So I watch these clips to find potential movies to watch, doesn't work so well when the clip gives away all the major details!
I'm surprised The Fountain wasn't included in this
Mr. Nobody?
thought that movie would be here
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One of my favs
Honestly I still can't get Cloud Atlas...
Isn't that complicated actually, It's about past lives, reincarnation.
I had to watch it three times because it was a bit confusing with all those characters jumping timelines as different characters as they reincarnate, but I thought it really was a brilliant movie.
no worries Marcela. Its not you, its the movie. It tells 4 or 5 different stories but only gives you 5 minutes of each part so you'll have 3 or 4 different 5 minute stories processing in your head b4 seeing the continuation of the 1st one. Its the stupidest thing. Why follow the story if they dont want you following it?
Its like reading 4 bedtime story books but only reading the first pages of each book, and then the 2ng, and then the sunovabee-otch! lol ....eventually the kid will go "STOP. i think i will just count some sheep"
The movie sucked, it makes more sense if you read the books.
Hi Hello there are books???
One of my sister dance friends said that to Star Wars. I'm like: How. How do you not get this?
It is wierd that you do not mention the source material behind these movies...like "Story of Your Life" behind Arrival or Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" behind Dawn of Justice...they help to make sense of the movies (well, less for Dawn of justice because of the alterations to the plot)
As a long time fan of the Alien franchise, I have to say that I really like Prometheus despite it's short comings. I don't know where you guys get the notion that Prometheus is almost universally disliked, when in fack the film received mostly positive reviews and it was the reception from fans and movie Go er's that was mixed and that to me hardly resembles a universal consensus. And I hate to rant but saying Only God Forgives is overblown and telling people it's ok that they did not get it because there was never nothing to get, is asinine. This film is a masterpiece to some and pretentious to others but one things for sure there is something THERE. Anyway I'm done talking about movies, making them is more my style....stay blessed
haha just because you dont understand what the movie was about doesn't mean it is bad. I love people nowadays with their black or white opinions on movies... its either great or terrible. Only God Forgives takes studying. Take a look at Chris Stuckmann's analysis. It's great
Only God Forgives is a goddamn solid film. You're absolutely right! You have to pay very close attention, which means putting the phones down and not diddling on facebook while the movie is playing.
Another really amazing film recently is man down the ending was wow. For a dark ending try the mist
I understood Arrival :D :D
Only God Forgives was a fucking masterpiece, if you don't understand/hate it keep to watching the fast and the furious movies...
So if i didn't like it i'm dumb, is that what you're saying?
All of the films made by that director are really well made films. If you have not yet seen any of his other movies, I would highly recommend them. I think my favorite of the ones that I have seen is probably Valhalla Rising.
Say that to Valhalla Rising
Only God Forgives is a masterpiece. One of the truly great films of our time. The complex subtleties and hidden symbolism's are on the same level as Kubrick's 2001. Definitely my favourite Nicolas Winding Refn film (yes I like it better than Drive). I think it will stand the test of time and years from now people will begin to admire its genius.
I will just leave this here:
/watch?v=5we-SqmS_4E
Perfectly sums up why the movie is stupid and the fact that you pretend to 'understand' it then elevate it to the level of perfection then on top of that insinuate that you are somehow of higher intelligence because of it...it's just a disgusting personality trait to have and I despise people like you.
Will somebody tell this channel to shut itself down? Or at least stop making videos?
Do you understand how much money they make off of these. They are never going to stop
Quit being an overdramatic baby and deal with it
Only God Forgives is a movie that's hard on the surface but really smooth on the inside. A highly underrated movie that demands a second watch AND for you to really think about the symbolism in each scene!