Sunak Says Rwanda Policy “Compassionate” After Five Die In Channel |
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- In the wake of the Rwanda bill passing its final parliamentary hurdle, five people have tragically died whilst crossing the channel.
Plus: Pro-Palestinian protests spread to multiple universities across the U.S; and Starmer lays it on thick for St George's day.
00:00 Intro
01:30 Rwanda Bill Passes
22:32 Pro-Palestine Protests Across U.S.
33:22 Starmer Gets Patriotic
48:18 US/China Semiconductor War
57:56 Was The Gideon Falter Video Set Up?
With Aaron Bastani and Michael Walker.
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As a white, UK born, 72 year-old male, I have never subscribed to the idea that I should be proud to be British. How can I be proud that my mother was in a certain country when I was born? I can be proud of what I personally have achieved but not of what other people have achieved.
Lately, with our government supporting war in Ukraine and massacre of civilians in Gaza, claiming that they have pleaded with the Israeli administration to rein in their attacks yet we continue to supply the weapons used for the killing, I feel nothing but shame.
I’ve been watching Novara, amongst other serious news channels, for a few years. I no longer have any confidence in mainstream news media. Please carry on with your very valuable work.
Do you also feel that Palestinians and Ukrainians should not feel proud of being Palestinians or Ukrainians?
@kaiserblazer there is a difference between the pride of the oppressor and the pride of the oppressed. (The saying applies also to violence!).
@@anniebrown0071 So an arab in Palestine, it's good to be proud of being an arab. But if that same person moves to Saudi Arabia, they should stop being proud of being an arab.
Because arabs are oppressed in Palestine but are the oppressors in Saudi Arabia.
I salute you mr Moore 🫡
Yes the whole thing of being “proud” of thing that aren’t an achievement has always seemed odd to me too, but it seems like people use “proud” in loose ways, like they say it when they actually mean “not ashamed” and also to just mean “there’s things I enjoy and appreciate about this part of my identity”. I can say I’m proud to be British & English in the context of the latter examples, because there’s lots of things I enjoy, love and find worthwhile about our grass roots culture and history.
If Rwanda is a safe country why have we granted 15 Asylum Seekers from Rwanda asylum?
Why are politicians always making decisions to save people’s lives but for some reason those lives are always worst off than before.
Decency, honour and fairness! I'm surprised Starmer didn't choke when he uttered those words. He's a complete disgrace to the LABOUR party.
😂. He really is the worst of the worst.
Send the Tories to Rwanda 🇷🇼
Starmer has Gestapo vibes.
I heard that as "did you have a pint of ale in honor of Saint George Michael?" Still checks out, I guess.
This guy is sick this prime minister is a very sick man
Michael and Aaron are hilarious.. love the ironic detachment and critique of these surreal times ❤
I'm so proud of the fellow protesters around the world. ✊🍉 It makes me think there's some hope in the world.
Excellent episode! Bastani and Walker - far and away the best combination on NM. Erudite, precise and an absolute pleasure to listen to. Bastani has capacity to distill each segment into its most salient aspects. Well done chaps.
Tthey want to stop people trafficking by trafficking people to Rwanda 😮
Ironically ,yes 😂
and allowing Rwanda to traffic an unlimited amount in return
we can send 5 maximum a month, they are allowed to send any amount, they could find 500 ''undesirables'' and send em here
Thank you for exposing the truth NM
Keep up the great reporting your doing
Julia Heartless brewer! 🤣 Aaron is seriously my favourite
If only tory voters knew St George wasn't Engerlish..
Wasn't he Palestinian?
Welsh?
Turkish
@@soidog659 Sigh . . . Greek
Imagine how many regugees could be assessed, homed and integrated if all the Rwanda money was spent on making the current systems workable. It is not a deterrant, its making profit for Tories and chums. Follow the money.
What's up with everyone? Rwanda is a blissful utopia resplendent with cupcake clouds and rainbows. Unfortunately, I don't think the policy will work because they'll be so eager to get to Rwanda, they'll be jumping over each other to get here.
Starmer is so naff. You’re so right it was just weird and stilted.
I love Jeremy Corbin! Hah
The English equivalent to Bastille Day could only be the day of the beheading of Charles I
Starmer putting NATO and the NHS in one sentence is bad enough but putting NATO first says it all. He is a tool of the American state and has already said that he intends to increase our 'defence' spending (in line with their wishes). On the other hand, the NHS, which is the only bit of England's history I am really proud of, is going to continue its decline under his watch. Yes, we had some good scientists but is that really a national achievement?
He is for the reichwing extremists like Netanyahu and Gvir too.
The money will be paid to Rwanda and then be moved in large part to accounts in the Cayman Islands. From there the money will be disbursed to accounts in other jurisdictions and from there to several conservative ministers accounts. What's the bet?
Michael Tomlinson acting like an absolute child.
Rightly said Aaron: " why isn't everybody else" protesting
Michael walker is a top class journalist. Yesterdays stream was jokes!!! Keep doing what you're doing Novara. ❤
My problem is that nobody is focusing on the speed with which Rishi Sunak stood against the police. Although I have little love for the police more generally I respect both their importance to society and that the vast majority do a difficult job as best they can !!
50,0000 died while crossing into the EU.
St George as a white GrecoSyrian priest if anyone is interested in the historical fact.
St George was ethnic levantine or jew if anyone like the history.
Eow
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, getting into the EU is not necessary for anyone.
The story on the US/China semiconductor war is so interesting. I wish Novara would do a dedicated geopolitics podcast or something.
It is more about having spyware the US has access to.
I can just imagine the suffering and fear the people in Rwanda are experiencing. I'm still dealing w the consequences of being traumatized when I was 3 years old.
Rwanda !!! That is where a major genocide happened when the English left the country. The country had 2 major tribes. When England left one tribe suffered genocial actions. Use Wikipedia if you want more details.
Palestinian spoke Greek before Islam they were Greek orthodox
Julia is being the voice of reason. Crazy times.
A lot has changed back since the photo of the child found dead on the beach before that the then government was happy to see the fleeing people drown.
Maybe I missed it but what about fixing the problem before it becomes a problem. So this is a result of past colonialism pillaging or present?
It's good to see that GLAN, based in the Westbank, is taken the UK government to the High Court for allowing arms sales to Israel! Here hoping they win their case!
GLAN means what?
Especially interesting comments in the Rwanda and final segment!
Rwanda a safe country! Unreal bollox.
When Satan is telling you that you are going too far..............
I miss the outro music ☹️ It added a nice finishing touch to the show.
To quote a person I think has good views on most things: "Nationalism is politics for basic people." I don't believe in this idea, my country celebrates the birthday of the Dutch monarch (currently a King and his birthday on the 27th of April) and the older I get the more I find this nonsensical.🤔🧐
Sunak is in cloud cookoo land, as for all those judges and courts, they are about as rare as hens teeth.
Love your channel
Keep doing this work
A small CZcamsr
Ditto, if you're the Uneducated Teacher clearly I'm the Uneducated Student. If I didn't have the Left to educate me, stimulate me intellectually I surely would die of boredom as there are too few to discuss issues with 😉
@@AZtea4UnME touché young man
Touché
Starma is an utter waste of space and he is full of nothing. Not to mention being complicit in GENOCIDE🤬🤬🤬
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Uh!? Michael said "my partner" 😮😮😢😢 I'm heartbroken. I have nothing to live for now...
Open safe routes for migrants now!
"We have the most advanced chips in the world most produced in The Republic of China more commonly called Tawain one of our many proxies. Democracy must win."
Aaron the bit where you were aghast at Brewer being the voice of 'reason' jokes; I mean you've literally got to be in the squadrismo to be the Right of Brewer
Think , if England had stuck with its original patron saint, St.edmund, England would have a well better flag
If you want to mention great British people from human history, let it be Black Sabbath. And Hawkwind.
They have ZERO COMPASSION
Why someone need compassion ? Do you think you deserve compassion ?
I’m disappointed neither of you brought scones.
What about the Palestinians Julia
Open an asylum application and immigration Office in France sort those with itnks to the UK in and denie entry to the rest😊
And if the French don't want their country to host asylum seekers wanting to come to the UK?
And Allah is most knowing of your enemies; and sufficient is Allah as an ally, and sufficient is Allah as a helper ~ Qur’an 4:45
48:00 That is incorrect. Us in Wales and Scotland do not have our saints' days as bank holidays either. We do have celebrations such as parades, feasting and drinking.
In Wales focus is given to St David's philosophical teachings, not his religion. It's very secular with the only politics coming from really being the independence campaign.
Saint George is Palestinian brought back by Richard the lion heart if my memory serves
To this 16:07 question.. from what I’ve seen in the past 6 months, anything is possible.
here for the niche story
'I fell asleep after about five mins' you give me so much jokes mike!
56:53 it’s not for a couple of years, it’ll likely knock chip production for a decade at least.
why is Ash constantly mentioning cocaine? 🤔
And what is Rawand exactly to the UK? Their back yard? I don't understand did Rawanda accept this it's part or was it forced?
The UK gave Rwanda money in exchange for Rwanda taking the refugees. Basically, we took advantage of a desperately poor country’s need for money and sent people fleeing from wars we caused to their death.
We have given them 2.5%+ of their total GDP. I doubt they needed much forcing.
Rwanda is doing better than a lot of states in the region, bit they aren't against accepting payments from racist governments.
It’s weird to see the bricks behind Aaron.
Michael: go vegan
8:14 are we sure that was M. Tomlinson? He sounded more like Sunak. What if he started to answer all of the calls?
Some things that make me proud to be British are the move to create the NHS and I have often thought we pumch above our numerical weight with regards to music artists
WHAT hog wash from steamer he doesn't believe in a single word that he spoke.
“The truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish.” ~ Qur’an 17:81
Wasn't the industrial revolution engaged in acts of colonial and class exploitation?
Ash Sarkar's tweet made me literally LOL
The US has previously recognised Taiwan as part of the One China. When did it become an independent nation? I don't think it's been given independent nation status in the United Nations. If I am wrong please let me know.
Both Bastille Day and the Festa della Repubblica commemorate the moment that the monarchy were kicked out. So that's something for the UK to look forward to, not celebrate.
‘Civilised country’ lol
"spaghetti with lemon"??? i do not understand british cuisine
The "Jew" woman literally pissing into the wind is absolutely hilarious to me.
Sunak really looks like roland rat. How is anyone supposed to see him as serious 😅
34:15 Young Keir Starmer isn’t real. Young Keir Starmer can’t hurt you.
We already did this in Australia but harsher: Off shore detention centres for asylum claim processing where some detainees have been languishing for years. The boat arrival rate decreased significantly after this was implemented and was eventually supported by both sides of politics so i guess it can work even if it's not nice and could be considered inhumane?
It will work but I don't want to do it. Having what amounts to concentration camps isn't a look id like. Australian governments fault. Not the people's. It's not personal attack in case I worded in that way.
The problem is that the UK geography is not the same. Where would you put these centres? An isolationist policy works better if you are, like, isolated.
I am afraid that pal can’t even swim 😅
31:28 there is BOTH a genocidal campaign against the people of Gaza which started on Oct 7th and a counter insurgency operation which started a few weeks later. It is important to note that Israel is LOSING the counter insurgency operation badly as they keep losing soldiers and tanks every time they try to hold a small area.
that genocide did not start Oct 7. It has been going on for decades.
Aaron have you heard this track called 'Dooyo' by a Somalian band called Dur-Dur it's banging. Anyway what do you lot think of the minority report, that Emma Vingeland is righteous I want a Novara/Minority report love in; make it happen for me
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200 trained case workers. I wonder ho that is then. Sounds like a job for capita just down their street.
Its about shadow mass not compassion. Compassion lol
With nothing to his name, a wounded Sunak is simply trying to make as much noises as possible before fading into history. The only consolation for Sunak is that his prime ministership dwarfed Liz Truss' 49 days. Nothing more and nothing less.
They plan. And Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners ~ Qur’an 8:30
Aaron: 'The comparison between chips and oil isn't crazy'. Context is everything😂
These European countries like polish them in civilised and human rights but when you look at the policies they not anywhere near these values. They still racist and imperialist in the core of their nature.
Marx never dyed his hair.
I’m still trying to get how AI, can be turned towards building a socialist society, the key is to a low carbon economy built on care work, arts, education, etc. rather than AI and high tech stuff, call me a Luddite
Stop the boats indeed.
Stop xenophobia instead
Why are governments allowing these crossing to take place at all, including transporting children? Then they are allowed to carry on even after a child died. The official response was no more than a gallic shrug.
it has to do with populating the factories and hospitals and the rest.
Rather than click bait give us your solution
Process claims in France.
@@Mock_Turtle_1805 Why would France process those claims for the UK?
@kaiserblazer
They offered to do it but we refused
@@kaiserblazerwhy not, if we had an agreement and joint operation.
@@syriacchristianity9007 Oh okay did not know that, tahnks for info.
The same policy stopped drownings in Australia; deaths went from around 2,000/year to zero in few years. To stop people from taking the risk of crossing the channel, you need to reduce how much you reward them for taking the risk.
If you give people safe legal routes then boat crossings are unnecessary. We won't be wasting a ton of money either
How about opening centres where they can apply for asylum from safety? Then they would never need to take a boat
@@chrstnldg6652 There are legal routes from India and Albania to UK, yet they are illegally in record numbers.
Legal and illegal immigration has soared; yet you claim that increasing legal immigration reduces illegal immigration.
@@anniebrown0071 Yes, I would support only allowing to apply asylum in a processing centre outside the UK. That processing centre could be located in Rwanda for example.
@@chrstnldg6652if you legalise crime there are no more criminals! Brilliant
8:00 The question is a bizarre one. Is the presenter asking for a cheat sheet of claims to make if you don’t want to be sent to Rwanda? Why would the illegal immigration minister respond to that?