Shop Tips: Respirators vs. Dust Masks
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2016
- This week, Frank explains the difference between a dust mask and a respirator, and shows us the proper way to put them on. It's a simple yet essential tip--safety never takes a vacation!
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Another important step with respirators, is with no cartridge attached, after you don it (put it on), place your hand over the input valves, and breath in. If the mask is worn properly, with no gaps, the mask should suck to your face. If it doesn't, then you have a gap somewhere and either need a different sized mask, or need to adjust the straps more. A little firefighter tip. :) We do that everytime we don our SCBA's to ensure a tight seal, or it could be life or death.
We do the same thing in industrial environments, always do seal checks. You can do it with the filters installed, but you have to cover the intake. Also check by covering the exhalation valve and breathing out gently, the respirator should balloon slightly and you shouldn't feel air escaping.
Also, at my work when I get fit tested, they make me shave, ugh. (just my face, lol)
Extra tip: Respirators generally require you to be fairly clean shaven to seal. In order to test the seal, wear your mask for a few minutes to allow it to set to the shape of your face, take off both filters, and plug the holes with your hands. Try to breath in and see if you feel any air flow around the edges of your mask, there should be a firm negative pressure created between the mask and your face.
And that's why you're not allowed to grow a beard in the military.
+Deadbeatloser22 or if you're a fire fighter
+Deadbeatloser22 +Jonas Habben
Well, I'm a military firefighter in the austrian army and I have a beard. I have never had a problem with getting a tight seal on either the NBC-mask nor the SCBA-masks with various lengths of beard (3 mm to 3 cm).
It may be true for some people (reason may be an odd shaped face or "harder" beard hair, idk...) but it's definetly not a fixed rule that a beard ruins your seal.
I'd guess this was a problem for old gas masks, but not a problem for newer models...
Does someone have some statistics about this topic?
This is a required step when putting on a gas mask in the military. Plug the filter with your hands and breath in, which not only checks for leaks, but will pull the mask closer to seal onto the face. If it doesn't, then the mask is faulty, and knowing that immediately could save your life.
Required step when you initially adjust the mask to fit your face (and when you do battle preparedness drills, if you need to adjust your mask when you need it something has gone wrong). When in an actual NBCR attack you are supposed to bread out heavily after you have put the mask on to remove any possible contaminants that might have floated into the area between your face and the mask.
It's also super important to regularly clean the inside of the respirator with an alcohol wipe, especially if it's used for long periods of time. As someone who does a lot of grinding I can tell you that it can get real sweaty in there and is a great place for bacteria and mold to grow
Is it isopropyl alcohol?
With 70% concentration?
Wouldn't alcohol deform the filters?
Use alcohol free wipes. 3m sell them in a box.
I had the problem of poor seal around my beard and I was working in an environment where there were both solvents and some fairly nasty particulates. I got a respirator which had an internal mask with another full face mask that covered over the forehead as well. You might think this was uncomfortable but it also came with a belt mounted blower fan powered by a rechargeable battery. This had two combination chemical and particulate filters on the fan intake. It supplied cool filtered air to the mask. This meant the mask was at positive pressure. Air was vented out of a release valve in the mask but it also meant that air coming out where the seal was not good also kept particulates and fumes out. Smart electronics meant that as the filters became loaded with dust more power was delivered to the motor to keep the air flow constant. I used to way the filters before and after changing them. Over a 3 month period they removed on average 64 grams of dust that would have been destined for my lungs.
Dang, all this time I've been putting my dust mask on by stepping into it feet first and pulling it up my body. Thanks for the tip on a better way to put them on, guys!
I think bloggers should test bcmask masks. I think the masks of this brand are very cost-effective!
@KarlBunker please tell me you are joking.
@@robinhannon3488 Please tell me _you_ are.
This shit is funny as fuck! Lmao u win the internet Karl
No one cared who I was until I put on the respirator
Lol
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Lol that meme
Respirator is just a face decoration if not used right. Mind the facial hair that may interfere with the seal on the edges of a the mask. That is for all masks, paper to full face masks. I work in a refinery and everyone is required to be clean shaven in case you need to use one in an emergency. If you are caught with to ruff a stubble you will be handed a disposable razor or sent home with a warning. Also, some cartridges have seal on them you have to break to keep the cartridge fresh in storage, so keep that in mind. Do breathing check every time you put the mask on by covering the valves and inhaling. Mask should suck to your face when covered and exhaust check open and let out air on exhale. Its a quick and easy check that only takes a second (one breath), so no excuses.
wait... are you saying that spraying silver paint in mouth is harmful?
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This made me laugh probably harder than it should of. XD
Yeah lol unless your in a movie mad max ...then it fine
My good buddy Immortan Joe taught me all about respirators.
😂😂
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Just like this video... mediocre!
So shiny and chrome
This needs some serious factual correction. In the US:
1) Dust masks are known as “filtering facepieces” when not required to be used in the workplace by your employer (who has the responsibility to test the workplace to determine if respiratory protection is required). They should be rated by NIOSH as N-95, N-99, or N-100 to determine the size of particulates they are rated to filter. Employers must provide a copy of Appendix D because breathing through a filtering facepiece can increase the work of breathing and decrease the amount of air drawn in with each breath.
2) When dust masks are required for use in the workplace, they are considered to be “respirators” and users must be fit-tested and undergo a medical examination to determine if they are able to safely use a respirator.
3) The distinction between organic vapor filtration and particulate filtration is in a rating that is assigned to a full-face, half-face, or filtering facepiece mask - NOT the type of mask it is. Masks that use canisters will have a color coding system for the various compounds they protect against. Filtering facepieces (N-95, R-95, P-95, etc.) have the letter designation that indicates the compounds they protect against (N=NUISANCE dust; R=oil RESISTANT; P=oil PROOF).
Source: I am an occupational safety investigator in state government responsible for enforcement of the US Department of Labor’s OSHA standards. See this link for more information: www.osha.gov/dts/shib/respiratory_protection.pdf
thanks for that info! glad im just a dood in a glorified garage-shop.
This comment needs to go to the top.
I was just about to state, less than 2 minutes into the video and they are miss-informing people. Noting the fact that the "dust mask" he is holding could in fact be labeled as a "Disposable Particulate Respirator" which will give people the wrong idea on what it does.
I don't doubt that the authors intended to provide some basic level of information to the DIY crowd. My concern is with employers that decide to apply that information in the workplace and that potentially provide their employees with ineffective protection.
That being said, it's always better to have the proper type of PPE for the hazards that are reasonably anticipated, in the workplace or for the weekend warriors. Frank Ippolito if you think it would be of any use, I'm happy to help you and your team with any occupational safety related topics you wish to cover.
Cheers!
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Our aim was not to mis-inform. We aren't OSHA. it was basically my response to seeing people (hobbyists) spray painting with a dust mask, and show that there are other easily-found safety items at the hardwear store. These tips are geared towards makers and hobbyists, and given in good faith that people will do their own research to augment information.
That being said, i'd love to be educated further.
I didn't think you posted this with the goal to miss-inform, I should have stated a thank you in my last post for helping bring awareness of the matter to people. I myself didn't know the difference either when I first started out doing things oh so long ago until I saw a similar post of "Dust masks do not protect you while painting!" I just want people to realize do not always go by just the name of a product, actually read in detail what one type of PPE over another will protect you against.
I also find that even though the respirator appears more bulky, it is a lot easier and more comfortable to breathe through a respirator than a dust mask -- which is definitely nice for a long job.
For glasses wearers, there are 3M respirator versions that vent down, instead of out. I've found this to fog my glasses less, be it eyeglasses or safety glasses.
Or just wear contacts lol.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!!! Can you talk about safety when making molds and casting?
Thanks guys for your helpful tips 👏
You merely adopted the shop tips...
I was born by them! Molded by them
Or as you,re mother said -Safety first Deer😉
+lasarith2 dear*
You sand like a younger man, nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken
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Is that a N95 dust mask? It looks like one in the video. If in fact it is, that is also classified as a respirator and has different guidelines for use from a classified Dust mask.
Technically with all dust masks and respirators your not meant to have stubble or a beard as this can affect the seal. There is a seal / fit test for respirators - put mask on without fillets, put hands over inlets and inhale (the mask should suction to your face if not there is a leak), then cover outlet and breath out (the mask should kind of inflate/bulge before air escapes)
What works the best against fumes, mold, pathogens and viruses???
maybe military gas mask
coronavirus huh? XD
I've always use my respirator for cleaning out our dust collector and any high particle removal. I've also noticed it also grab those fine dust particles that most cheaper dust mask won't grab
I had my gc buy one for me to pop a hole in the concrete foundation wall with a Roto hammer in a crawl today. Didn’t want to do the concrete in that closed space without it even a dust mask I trust a respirator more
And what about the full face gas masks? Are those only for when you're trying to find your mummy?
They're used mainly when you're T side. But you can also use them if you put a tear gas, mustard gas, or smoke gas grenade on you class as well.
Cool Doctor Who reference!
your giving me flashbacks!
Lol love the reference!
that episode gave me fucking nightmares... actual fucking nightmares
Thanks for the tip to "pinch" the dust mask! I didn't know that!
So simple yet so relevant to my personal life. I was just thinking about these after painting my car with rattle cans. Gotta pickup a good respirator after watching this video
Dust mask for particulate.
Black-banded respirator for chemicals from paint, epoxy, etc.
Pink-banded respirator for welding.
i love Frank's insistence on "vacation" in these videos
He took off his cap!
Yep, never know when you are going to see a someone take it off for the camera.
How to change the toilet paper next time.
awhhh nawhhh. To be fair its not as bad as the time they demonstrated how to put paper on a table so you don't get it messy. I think they took that video down as I can't find it haha
Right on it .. thank you for the video
This is helpful. Thanks
Thanks for the video bro
Hey tested, you should do a video about fiberglass basics (either in shop tips or as a separate category). I've looked online multiple times to find a good tutorial but no one ever covers all the unexpectancies like fiberglass getting stuck to your gloves because of the resin on them or the resin drying too quickly, or the fiberglass not staying in place (all these are things I've experienced) , etc. From what I've found relating to fiberglass tutorials is that most of them all rely on some sort of basic knowledge about fiberglassing which I have been unable to find. If you guys could do a video hopefully solving all the problems I've had that would be great.
Aren't all filters different? For respirators you can get particulate filters and solvent filters. They've also got their ratings for how effective they are at filtering.
Yes, the point was that dusk masks do nothing against gases, only solids.
That's what I was thinking. It definitely should have been brought up. So people don't think just because you have a respirator it will keep you safe, if you have the wrong filters.
The 3M half-face respirator is so inexpensive and replacement filters reasonably priced, that there shouldn't be a question on what to purchase. Furthermore, the re-usable respirators are designed to be washed for a sanitary experience. I've used the N95-class filters for plenty of wood and resin composite dust generating activities over the past several years, and they work great.
Yeah but 3M stuff wouldn't fit under a welding helmet.
Great! More Shop Tips and espacialy savety Tips!
3:07 I can't stop watching him casually flipping the hat around with his fingers. It's just so quick and fluid. Oddly mesmerizing.
Rabid Rabbi you piqued my curiosity, haha so i had to go back to 3:07 to see "what in the hell's he talking about?" Lol. I had totally missed it the first time. Then even once i knew what to look for, i still had to watch it twice to catch it! But youre right. the way he handled that hat was quite smooth/fluid to watch. Those are some good observation skills you got there! I bet nothing gets by you unnoticed. ✌😎
My tip: use a push-stick to feed stuff into a saw. Like how important is it to use your bare hand like a boss vs. finishing your workday with all your digits?
well, fingers grow back, don't they?
@@pedrorserra only the uneven numbered ones
2,4,6,8 and 10 are gonners
Good for intensive exercise the respiratory one. As you breathe better for exercise without pollutants.
Hey I have that same Winchester Tavern shirt. Neat.
Got the respirator, ear muffs, eyeball sheild, and knee pads, how many condoms should I have on?
Only one, more than that and there's a risk of tearing.
@@zoeb7654 Better yet, no condom, My boy!!! You only need protection for your respiratory system when [[[[[[ banging a goat ]]]]]]]... Trust me, I've know guys who've used this technique flawlessly for decades - Goat is a great piece of ass, but stinks like shit.
A bakers dozen at least
Norm always good questions...
He missed a part about respirators. Some come with cartridges that only filter out air born particles while others filter out the fumes as well. Don't assume you are safe just because you're wearing a respirator.
any good reccomendations on relatively cheap and COMFORTABLE respirators for fumes?
@@camit6237 I think bloggers should test bcmask masks. I think the masks of this brand are very cost-effective!
You also want to use the respirator if you are going to be heating galvanised metal (for example welding to galvanized steel) the galvanization gets in the the air and it might give you metal fume fever
Simple but good advice.
I use the straps on my respirator to train myself to unhook bras
One day, you may be able to put your practice into use.
theclerksays best comment and reply ever!!!!!
Lol
It's not the same closure, so your training will be in vain :P
Ken Smith It’s really not hard lol. My Fiancée damn near always makes me undo her bra for her it’s just repetition.
I picked up the same respirator. Came in a set.
6200 + 6055 + 5935 + 501
Fits really well and it's easy to breathe through.
Love it!
Get a long garden hose and put one end in your mouth and one end outside 👌🏻
#LifeProTip
and make sure to not only inhale through the hose but exhale into it, too, so that natural selection can take its course
Indeed, you'd just be pushing the same stale air back and forth with that length of tube. That's why snorkels are so short. :)
+SparrowHawk183 snorkels are short because after just a few feet under water the pressure difference would make it impossible to breath.
Good idea until someone steps on the hose while you're using it.
What you are protected against depends on what type of cartridge you buy. There are a whole lot of different types of them. It starts with identifying what you are protecting yourself from.
really good info to know. my girlfriend runs a bath product business and all the dust has been concerning me, wanna get some better respirators to protect us from all the particles flying around and also from the SLSA dust, that stuff burns :( definitely don't want us to mess up our lungs
I resisted buying a respirator for a long time because I thought the resistance on the inhale would agitate my asthma, I couldn't have been more wrong, I breath better with it on than off even outside the shop because of the complete lack of dust or allergens. I'm surprised you didn't mention the cost savings of replaceable prefilters especially after knocking one off lol
"no sick leave for safety" is the name of my cyber industrial band, we play tonight at the Winchester tavern
If you use it or not, make sure you check the seals on your respirators every three or four months and keep at least two changes of filters in stock at any time. Certain kinds clog very quickly.
What kind of cartridge should you use for acids in electroplating processes? I recently quit because they weren’t following guidelines and didn’t have a fume scrubber in the bay as nickel chloride is quite harmful in the long term. Also note there was sulphuric acid fumes, hydrochloric acid fumes and copper sulfate fumes.
I just hold my breath and hope for the best; and besides going blind in one eye and a few breathing problems, I've faired pretty well! :)
How are you now? 😊
I learned this the hard way after painting stain for multiple hours with a regular mask, I got very dizzy and sick later in the night
Winchester Tavern shirt from Shaun is so cool ;)
Hey Frank, any tips for stopping my safety goggles or glasses from fogging up whilst wearing a mask or respirator? Thanks !
I've got a safety question for you guys of Tested: what do you do about eye protection when you wear prescription glasses? And I can't deal with the double glasses thing, haha. I'm looking for some type of safety-prescription glasses fusion, any recommendations? :)
devilbiss air hood supply fed respirator is my go to for painting provides cool fresh air and no issue with general facial hair not cheap but to set up. also cleanspace 2 respirator battery air fed perfect for quick work and no air line or expensive filters for fresh air it will also supplie cool fresh air with no obstructions infront of your view like most (respirators)have.
Full-faced respirators or half faced ones are the only ones I actually recommend.
I work with this "simalfa" a all natural glue ( spray gun ) I normally use the dust mask you showed . Should I be using that???
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Thanks. Great video. I am using an LVLP gun to spray Behr Latex from Home Depot. Do I need a mask like the one in your video or are the paper masks that have N95 printed on them sufficient? Same ones that everyone is wearing to avoid the Cornona Virus. Thanks
So would the respirator work good for welding stainless and other welding procedures or would the dust mask be fine?
I like doing spray painting, I do it outside, I use a Dust mask+shirt on top to seal it better, can I still doing that or I need to change to a Respirator?
What about preventing secondhand smoke from ciggarettes?
I've tried an N95 mask and the respirator (along with the cartridge attached and it was not expired) exactly like the 2 you showed in this video and both of them did a horrible job with protection
I've read some of the comments you guys posted and some of you said if you have a beard, you should stubble it or shave it off. I might stubble mine and see what difference it makes with protecting me from smoke
If your respirator is letting in smoke I would guess it isn't sealing, if you have a beard then that's almost certainly the issue, a smooth gasket cannot possibly seal against a coarsly fibrous surface. Smooth gaskets seal against smooth surfaces, like bare skin.
I love that Iron Man welding mask there on the left.
Will the white respirator work for silica, or drywall? How often to replace those cartridges for the white one?
Please suggest a mask in amazon for chemical lab work as per daily uses.
What about particle masks, how long can you use them?
Thanks
any advantages of using a single catridge vs a double catridge respirator?
Coronavirus has made masks review videos popular
These are a bit bulky for daily use. There are more compact options that offer similar protection as long as you know how to fit/wear them properly
Ahh, the 3M 8511 the best basic dust mask because of that exhaust valve.
I saw the guy from xrobots use a strong sucking fan when spraying, does that eliminates the need for a respirator when doing small amounts of spraying?
Tip for all masks and respirators. If you have a beard or a mustache, the mask will not make a perfect seal. If you are working with really dangerous materials i would shave yourself to get a perfect seal with the oral-nazal cup or the dustmask itsself. Every time before going in to a contaminated area you need to do a seal check. You can put the filter cardriges off and plug the inhalation holes and breathe. If you dont feel any air coming around your oral nazal cup or the bit that sits around your face then you are good. If you feel air you need to adjust the straps or get a bigger or smaller size mask or respiratior. Thats the negative pressure check. You can do a positive pressure check. The positive and negative only apply to a respirator cause a dust mask is very hard to seal the whole area. A negative seal check is basically putting your hand on the exhalation valve and exhale. If you feel air then you need to adjust the straps untli you dont.
Another one of life's biggest mysteries finally answered!
Is the 3m 6099 filter good enough? It seems to be the best they do...
Is the dust mask good enough for demoing ductwork wrapped in pink insulation?
Talking about airbrushing there what type extractor unit do you guy's use?? I'm an avid plastic modeler and am on the hunt for a new one.
We decided to do some re-painting while covid is rampaging. Had to do loads of sanding between coats of mud over all the dings and holes our walls had. Since N95 is most urgent for areas like ICU/hospitals/medical/frontline the best we could do was surgical mask with a layer of cloth mask and another layer of mask and our lab googles. We lucky this is not our occupation and not majorly asthmatic. 😅 I can only imagine how construction firms/contractors are struggling to get PPE.
Safety never takes a siesta
Do emergency respirators only protect against pain?
I work with pollen, heavy pollen which triggers my asthma, what’s the best respirator for that? I use the $30 respirator from Lowe’s, n95 one with pink/purple cartridges. Is there a better one?
What should I use for like particles in the air I want to explore an abandoned building and it has all particles in the air should I use dust one or respirator
respirators come in three flavors: half face (seen in video), full face (includes built in goggles), and forced air.
Forced air has a battery powered fan which helps pump air through the filter. This is great for ppl with weak lungs, or if you need to be in it continuously for several hours.
Don't forget supplied air., you can have the mini tanks on your back
whatre those plastic bits on the ends of the filters?
Do you need a respiratory if spray painting outside
Stupid question but just wanna clarify I sand a lot! Is a respirator still ok to use for sanding??? Is it good against cedar?? Just wanna clarify?...I just prefer wearing a respirator over a dust mask any day....dust masks always leave a gap which I don't like...and respirators are always tight I like that
May i know what is the sizing of the respirator? Thanks!
slipped my mind to replace my mask filters, it must have been years! ta!!
I bought exactly that respirator :D
I dearly love my full-face respirator. They're a bit pricey, but the fact that it keeps solvent vapour out of my eyes is worth it. It's the same as the paper mask vs half-mask respirator - safety glasses might keep some of the particles out, but the solvent just wafts right around.
As far as brands, just go buy a 3M one. You'd be hard pressed to find a company less likely to go out of business.
Anyone know what shirt Norman is wearing or where I can get one?
So respirators also work with working with diesel / petrol fumes ?
What if I use a gas mask with a nato filter? Will that filter out as much of the "stuff" as a respirator?
good to know if you're in the zone.. Such as life in the zone
I've been wondering this for a while, because I though one was just a cheaper version of the other, thank you so much. At what point should one start using a respirator rather than a dust mask? Thank you!
They already mention it in the video but dust masks are for keeping out dust or particles, and respirators are for solvents.
If you're just sanding things, a dust mask is probably fine. If you're painting or using things that give off harmful fumes, you want a respirator. Even if you're just using spray cans outside! Safety first!
I just use a respirator as you can get particulate filters without the solvent filtration. possibly not add cheap for a diary only solution but soo much more comfortable. also technically with all dust masks and respirators your not meant to have stubble or a beard as this can affect the seal. There is a seal / fit test for respirators - put mask on without fillets, put hands over inlets and inhale (the mask should suction to your face if not there is a leak), then cover outlet and breath out (the mask should kind of inflate/bulge before air escapes)
I just use a respirator as you can get particulate filters without the solvent filtration. possibly not add cheap for a diary only solution but soo much more comfortable. also technically with all dust masks and respirators your not meant to have stubble or a beard as this can affect the seal. There is a seal / fit test for respirators - put mask on without fillets, put hands over inlets and inhale (the mask should suction to your face if not there is a leak), then cover outlet and breath out (the mask should kind of inflate/bulge before air escapes)
I just use a respirator as you can get particulate filters without the solvent filtration. possibly not add cheap for a diary only solution but soo much more comfortable. also technically with all dust masks and respirators your not meant to have stubble or a beard as this can affect the seal. There is a seal / fit test for respirators - put mask on without fillets, put hands over inlets and inhale (the mask should suction to your face if not there is a leak), then cover outlet and breath out (the mask should kind of inflate/bulge before air escapes)
I just use a respirator as you can get particulate filters without the solvent filtration. possibly not add cheap for a diary only solution but soo much more comfortable. also technically with all dust masks and respirators your not meant to have stubble or a beard as this can affect the seal.
3m Makes some great respirators and dusk masks. Also trying RZ Industries M2 Mask that I heard about from Peter Brown's Channel
"Safety never takes a holiday" -Paul Blart
Should of talked about recommendations for good brands and some that you know aren't good brands.