Bret Hart on Forgiving Shawn Michaels
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- Bret Hart explains what it took to make peace with Shawn Michaels after the WWF Survivor Series 1997 and the Montreal Screw Job. During this Not Sam Wrestling Podcast, Sam Roberts discusses the 2009 Monday Night Raw segment where Bret and Shawn Shook hands.
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“Forgive others, not because they deserve forgiveness, but because you deserve peace.”
In the case with these two however, it was both
Nope@@patrickkanas3874
Shawn Michaels has a lot of respect for Bret Hart. In his goodbye speech to the WWE fans on the Raw following his final match at WrestleMania 26 Shawn thanked the fans, his parents, his coworkers, etc but he only thanked three people specifically by name. Those three people were Vince McMahon, Triple H, and Bret Hart.
Very true. Tear trickling down his cheek as he firmly stated that he wants to thank Bret and how he felt bad about his actions in the ‘90s and his gratitude that Bret believed he had finally changed. 100% mutual respect, even with all that massive baggage.
Bret was also there to shake his hand and give him words of support after his “final match” with Undertaker.
The real issue in this entire saga, truth be told, was the ugly and heartless nature of the business itself. That latter part hasn’t really changed.
@@ordohereticus3427 You’re right. The heartless nature of the business hasn’t changed even though on the surface it seems like it may have.
Wish Shawn’s final match really was WM26. I pretend that Saudi match never happened just like I pretend Michael Jordan never played for Washington.
@@catchcan221 Well said. Also, perhaps I'm being a bit harsh as changes take time and increments, and some gradual and positive changes are taking place, so that's at least something.
Without Bret Hart, there would be no Shawn Michaels.
@Catch Can Why you got to drag Saudi into this? It happened in Australia you id*ot
Bret never changed his main story. He's a legend. A hero to me.
Of course he did. He’s as old school as they get. He’ll stick with the screw job work story until he takes his last breath.
A legend knows it’s not his belt to drop, it’s Vince’s belt to say who gets it or who drops it. He’s an arrogant ass on the same level as Hogan. They had to do the screw job cause he wasn’t going to do what he was told by the boss.
@@KelticTim you mean if someone disrespect Cena like Alex Riley, then Cena should drop the belt?
@@officialzacadammorrison what are you talking about? No, you drop the belt when the boss tells you to drop the belt, what you don’t do is act like Hogan or Bret, or anyone else who refuses to do the job the way the boss says to. Besides, the truly great ones don’t need a belt to be a part of their character, like Roman now, they are just great. Taker, Rock, Stone Cold, Ric Flair even, none of them needed the belt to be a top draw.
@@KelticTim But all of them play politics, no?
Cena did the same. Everyone still loves him. Rock and Austin didn't want NWO to go over. At least that's the story kinda told.
So, Bret is not bitter. :) And Shawn was an up and coming star. If you disrespect the champion, you disrespect the company.
Unless we want to move the goalpost when it comes to attacking Bret Hart.
Because Bret Hart haters only have bitterness to label him, once they exhaust all their reasons
This just shows you that while Bret remain the same man so many years, Shawn has grown so much throughout his career and I’m glad that both of them finally came to peace.
Yeah the same bitter man
@@sirnoname6943Some people try to act like Bret was a Saint or something. Like Shawn said, he seen Bret on the road…..
@@Director2024 Bret protected SCSA and the Rock from Shawn and his buddies, who would have buried them with their stupid Kliq shit. Shawn inferred live on air that Bret was having an affair with someone HE was having an affair with. Bret was no saint, but Shawn pulled some scummy shit that Bret never would have done. The company would’ve been better if Shawn went south in 97
@@IHateNicolasCageshit is crazy how once you get older and see things from a different view. HBK was my guy back then and I was hype as hell when he won the chip at mania 12 but as a adult now man he was a true bitch.
@@sirnoname6943if anyone has ever earned the right to be bitter, it's Bret Heart
When he and Shawn buried that hatchet on that episode of Raw, it brought tears to my eyes. Two of my absolute favorites!
We forgive not because the other person deserves forgiveness. We forgive because we deserve peace.
If only Bret would give us that.
Amen to that!
That's really a wise thing to say. Amen to that!
We forgive because the Lord Christ Forgave you. John 3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him, should not perish but have eternal life
Well, Austin 3:16 says that's a load of bollocks.
You know how you can tell Bret told the truth? His story was the only story that never changed. 25 years later it's still the same story it's always been
Brett holds grudges and plays the victim in a ruthless world,Shawn did this to me, Goldberg did this to me, Vince did this to me and I’m sure there’s more ..
End of Bret’s career was pretty unfortunate though. He got screwed by Vince, then went to WCW, got used poorly and eventually suffered a career ending injury by Goldberg.
@@dobsr1184 but he doesn't hold grudges with anyone anymore outside of maybe hogan and goldberg. because both of those guys are the worst profesionals in the history of the business. everyone else brets bruied the hatchet with. from flair to shawn to vince etc... so you're mistaken lol
@@kennethgriffin7921 I personally think Bret is valid in every one of his beefs, except the screw job. Hogan for sure, he deserves it. Goldberg, most definately, he is a lieing, trashy piece of filth who got beat up by Jericho. but nah, the hate on Vince and the screw job to this day is silly. Bigger people than bret laid the belt down in their own home town and did it willingly, that was his ego at work... and without it, you might not have gotten as good'er attitude era.
@@CrashHeadroom bro did u even watch the video. He explained that it wasnt cuz the match was in Canada. Its because shawn said hes not willing to lose to him after bret said he would drop it to him. He even said he would drop the belt to somebody else, just not shawn because of the disrespect
My dear old dad said this about forgiveness. Forgiving someone isn’t about giving peace to the soul of party that wronged you. It’s about freeing your soul and giving yourself peace. Even if the other person doesn’t care, you can leave this world knowing you are the bigger, stronger person. In the case of Bret and Shawn, it sure seems like both were set free.
Remember when Sam Roberts bullied that producer on O&A into killing himself?
And they wanted to be free. I couldn’t believe it when I heard Shawn Michaels was a born again Christian. This is the guy who cocky and cared only for himself or so it seemed. People that knew him best said of his 2002 return this man was different. And I myself as viewer could see it too.
@@penskepc2374what? When was this ?
@@penskepc2374😂 what?
@@penskepc2374Elaborate, please?
In a parallel universe, The Brooklyn Brawler won the WWF Title.
in an alternate universe, Shawn Michaels went to ECW and won the ECW champion
And in another parallel universe, Bret screwed Shawn over in Shawn's native town, known as the Chandler Cheat.
@@Hardy30680 San Antonio Screwjob
In another universe, Shawn shoots on “Dark Days” alluding to Bret’s rumored affairs with The Undertaker
I notice that Bret often uses the word "safe" when talking about his matches and/or who he wrestled with. That gave me the impression of his ensuring that he wouldn't purposely hurt his opponent in a match. He's also used the word to describe his opponent's wrestling approach. I loved what Bret said about wrestling being about trust and respect--if those are lacking, how do you know that you're safe? I'm glad that Bret learned from his experience of forgiving Shawn and vice versa--he's inspired me to realize that it's best to let go of the past and move on. Thanks for this upload.
Bret used the word “safe” because he took pride being a great technical wrestler/representing his family, and not harming others. Unfortunately, his career was cut short due to Goldberg’s carelessness/recklessness, refusing to acknowledge that he ended Bret’s career and livelihood. Recently, Goldberg apologized about the accident. But, it wasn’t genuine because he said that if he wanted to hurt Bret, he wouldn’t get up. Well, if Goldberg thought that he was really so tough, he should’ve gone to UFC like Brock, Bobby L, etc. Yes, his body looks great, but he couldn’t last 10mins in a match, which is why the Undertaker was so upset with him. Bottomline, wrestlers have to trust each other because their careers/lives are at stake. If Bret wanted to hurt muscle head, he definitely could’ve used some of his dad’s old holds. As for Shawn, like HHH, he knew who to kiss up to, which is why he’s still working/earning millions. Bret wanted his performance to speak for itself and didn’t play the suck up game. But, life is more than chasing a dollar. Bret is happily married and enjoying his retirement. Once Undertaker retired, Mark finally gets to recall stories and enjoy his family life.
@@AskMeK2 I’m inclined to agree with you about Goldberg not being genuine about his apology to Bret. Not long ago, I saw this video that featured the top 10 wrestlers who were considered the most difficult to work with. Shawn Michaels was listed at #3 and Goldberg at #2. Surprise surprise? Wrestlers mentioned that Goldberg didn’t even know about the basics of wrestling yet he knew how to hurt them. Even if he didn’t come to the ring planning on ending Bret’s career, Goldberg’s approach was definitely reckless and unsafe. Wrestlers take their chances when they get in the ring so it’s understandable why safety is important.
I'm glad they did it in the ring. They understood that it wasn't just these two guys, who were tied together in this story since '97. All the fans of Bret and Shawn were too and that's why it felt cathartic to us all. We all needed to see it and needed this to happen.
Always the "Hitman" for life to me. Truly one of the most straightforward personalities of the business. Respect to you Sir Bret Hart.
Forgiveness is a powerful thing, maybe the most powerful.
Fun fact... It's been thirteen years since the forgiveness, which came thirteen years after the Screwjob
Damn, I'm old.
@@Matt92Machine Can I ruin your day a little bit more?
If you have reached 32 years in age, which you basically have to be if you remember the Screwjob, you've been alive for a billion seconds
@@randomlyfactual1943 Nah I’m 31 come on bro. Don’t make me older.
Where’s the “fun” part?
The other reason you know he's telling the truth other than the fact he's never changed his story is the fact HBK never denied anything Bret has said happened..
Well, Shawn had come a long way since the screwjob. He didn't wanna erase what happened, he wanted to move on from it
@@patrickkanas3874 Yeah AND because it was true..
Only person that has never changed their story on the screwjob, and looks back on it with honesty.
Bret tells the exact reason why it happened and Shawn has even confirmed it!!
@@chancewhitall2482 Watch the video? It's not that long and he explains it quite clearly.
@@chancewhitall2482 Bret mentions to Shawn that they will be wrestling at SSeries. Bret assures Shawn that he has NO PROBLEM dropping the belt to him and that he will always be a professional inside the ring. Shawn says "I appreciate that but am not willing to do the same for you". Bret has said this for years and Shawn confirms this after finally saying that he was in on the screwjob. I've always found it funny when, guys like Pritchard or Cornette thought that bret did not want to lose in Canada!! It is common knowledge and well known that after Shawn beat Bret at WM for the title that he was set to drop the belt back to Bret the following WM. So that was another case where Shawn disrespected Bret....not good!!
@@thebreeze12but isn’t this all scripted and playing a character? So why do they have beef in real life
@@explodev2550 Shawn broke the script here. That's why it's famous
@@explodev2550 While pro wrestling is scripted, it is still very competitive. Being number 1 means more than just a title. It means top earnings, it means having more input, it means being at the top of the pecking order, and EVERYONE wants that, and NOBODY wants to give it up. Why do you think Hogan rarely lost to a clean pinfall? While doing the job once in a while is a requirement, the higher you get in the business, the more sense it has to make in the mind of that wrestler, or there might be some pushback. That's why when guys get to the position Bret and Shawn were in, it's usually in their contract that they get so much say in the creative aspect of their storylines and matches. Bret and Shawn were neck and neck at the time, trying to be the main man. In each of their heads the only one standing in the way of that top position was the other. It wasn't necessarily about "winning" or the title; it was about what those things symbolized: being at the top. Just like any job that's highly competitive and there's only one promotion and two strong candidates. Bret and Shawn's rivalry had nothing to do with sportsmanship. It was political.
Bret's IQ was on another level to the wrestlers at the time. The types of moves and the way he told the story using his body elevated the entire industry. If you watch Wrestling in the 80's, it was 95% just kicking, punching, grappling and long over drawn holds. Bret only used those as setups for bigger moves and introduced so many new ideas in matches. He was my favourite Wrestler as a kid by far and gave me tremendous inspiration. He was a legitimate good guy and hero with nothing corny or superficial. Just a super cool and down to earth man. And he always had enormous respect and humility.
Bret, Owen and Hennig were the technical masters.
Ken Shamrock in recent shoots revealed he was right there when the conversation with Shawn happened. Why Bret went all the way to survivor series idk, I'd of told Vince to go to hell and demand another opponent or I'm not showing.
Bret Hart has been through so much and for people saying he's a crybaby, you haven't been through what he's been through, the fact that he survived the stroke and being the only one alive from his wrestling family just shows his true character...
Never knew this was the real reason Bret refused to lose to Shawn in Montreal. I have a deeper respect for Bret. Bret is truly a legend
Vince was dirty. He only gave Bret the belt twice to guarantee he doesn't sign with WCW once he got that he could care less about Bret. Bret was too nice and loyal to Vince that's why he was so upset 😡 for years.
yes... until the dark side of the ring episode aired I liked Bret too. Bret Hart however was the one who gave away all the information to Vince McMahon when Martha Hart was building a case against the WWF. Why? Because of his own ego. Because he was afraid that his WWF matches would forever be locked away somewhere never to be watched again.
@@okj4521 imagine your entire opinion doing a 180 because of a single episode of a tv show lmao
@@wolfspledge1762 Why does it trigger you so much that Bret Hart did this?
@@okj4521 why are you still using 'triggered' as a term in the year 2023 for comments that simply go against yours?
Legends. Never a dull moment when they were in the ring together..
Dude, it's CRAZY how much lighter he looks now. Like, what's that saying about holding grudges being poison you drink and hope it kills the other person? Glad he forgave him and moved on. You could tell it hurt him and it's great to see that weight finally lifted. Even when they first reconciled, Brett seemed bitter. I think he saw an actual remorse on Shawn's part and came around.
takes a bigger man to forgive someone who did you wrong, lots of respect and a great lesson, you can see how much it effected his outlook on life and proud he is of himself even though it hurt like a bitch.
I wish they could’ve just got along back in the day but that’s life sometimes so glad they finally made peace 2 icons 2 goats there’ll never be anyone like them and I love them both I never really chose sides between the two of them as performers
It’s kind of wholesome how both of them (especially hbk) have matured.
But we did miss out on some insanely great matches because of their attitudes
Forgiving people sometimes is very hard. But I think the healing for us begins at that point. You carry anger around all you do make yourself miserable. And you might not see it but I’m sure close friends and family can. Speaking for myself I have a hard time forgiving but then I think now who have I wronged at some point in my life?
Man did Bret and Shawn put on some amazing matches back in the day
Brett was a true star of the sport in an era where the also ranks of that time would be the mega stars of today. I think that it’s a shame that whenever he speaks in interviews this seems to be the main theme, and 25 years later I think it’s probably time to stop talking about it. There’s a lot he can talk about, and I’m sure it’s what people that interview him like to bring up, but it would be nice to hear him talk more about other stuff because he was much more than an evening in 97. Id like to hear him talk more about the rise to the top, the matches that cemented his legacy, what the fame was like to handle. Etc
Bret
since bret and shawn buried that hatchet I've watched several interviews they have done talking about eachother and seen clips where they see eachother at a show back stage and embrace eachother. Shawn admits he was hard to work with and had is issues back then but knowing they respect each other and in fact hold eachother as top guys is awesome. They had great matches together and against others. Two of the best.
Bret is as real as it gets. Theres no BS or sugar coating it, he says it like it is. That's what I've always loved about him.
That last part hit like a truck. Throughout school i was never a bully but there were a few kids i was nasty to and also some teachers as well and once i got to around 16 i started feeling like a dick and so before i left school i made sure to apologise them otherwise it probably wouldve eaten away at me for years that i didnt at least say sorry
He Had Every Right To Be Upset. When someones story never change that's how you know they are telling the truth. 🤞🏾
Yeah but it's been almost 30 years since it happened you would think he'd move on instead of keep talking about it
Ok Bret knew if you're leaving you drop the belt and he refused to Idc his reasoning he knew that's what you do. With the Madusa incident Vince couldn't take any chances so yeah Bret screwed Bret.
@@ianmeadows8719 Bret was not the only one who was going to leave and refused to drop the belt to the guy Vince wanted. You know who else did that exact same thing? Hulk Hogan. Hogan was headed out the door and was supposed to drop the belt to Bret, but he refused. Did Vince screw Hogan? No, he let Hogan drop the belt to Yokozuna. Bret still had a whole month left on his contract and had already told Vince he was going to vacate the belt the next night on Raw. He was never going to leave with the belt nor was it ever about loosing in Canada.
@@KairiPrime Hogan wasn't planning on going to the competition at the time he was leaving Bret was. Bret didn't get his way so he refused to drop the belt and that's what you're supposed to do. People can defend him all day long and he can bitch and cry all day long end of the day he knew what he was supposed to do plus after the Madusa incident Vince couldn't take any chances. Bret screwed Bret.
@@ianmeadows8719 The only reason Bret was going to WCW was because Vince told him to. Bret had signed a 20 year contract with the WWF, but Vince is the one who went to Bret and broke their contract and said 'I can't afford you.'. Even after Bret offered to take a big pay cut to stay in the WWF, Vince told him no. Bret was never leaving WWF because of money, he was basically being kicked out.
And I would agree with you if Survivor Series was his last night in the company...but it wasn't. He still had a whole month left on his contract, and Bischoff was even willing to give Bret extra time to tie up any loose ends. Meaning there was still plenty of time to get the belt off him. And again, the original plan, that Vince agreed to, was for Bret to vacate the belt the next night on Raw.
Also if your problem is with Bret not willing to drop the belt to one guy in his whole career, then keep that same energy across the board. Shawn vacated 9 titles because he refused to put guys over. Steve 'wife beater' Austin took his ball and went home because he refused to put Brock over. Not to mention the dozens of guys Triple H and Hogan buried because they refused to put people over.
You can clearly see how the whole thing played out for Shawn. He was happy to screw Bret at Montreal and happy to be rid of him, but after he had the belt those thoughts started creeping up on him: "What if I'm next? How long until they screw ME?" That's when he realized what he'd done to Bret, and he carried that guilt with him till they squashed it.
Plus he didn't stay at the top for long and had to retire after suffering that career ending back injury during the casket match with taker
@@underpressure07140 Plus, Steve Austin was building up so much momentum and becoming such a huge star at the time, HBK was gonna have to relinquish the belt to him at WM nonetheless.
Things happen as they happen but BOY, did we miss out on a “fight forever” A+ level rivalry with Bret and Shawn. They could’ve done so much and DID do so much but wow, what was left on the table! 😯
He can forgive HBK but he can't forgive Goldberg? Makes sense
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The Holy Spirit told me forgiveness is more for your own self healing and not so much for the other person. Once I realized that I let go of all my past grudges and forgave everyone I could think of. True peace of mind and peace in general is priceless. It’s great to hear Bret Heart say he finally made peace with that situation. Congrats to him.
Shawn and Bret on commentary could be solid fucking gold.
I'd bet they could make more money doing that together now than they ever made in the ring.
He is a very intelligent and calm person, and always speaks truth.
"Forgiveness 101"
Oh, man. Bret pulls another lesson in real life from a supposed cartoon world of wrestling.
He often says he's greedy for respect. Respect seems a lost and overlooked art in socializing nowadays.
In many ways, I got that from him.
Forgiving is a tough but high-notch form of self-respect.
This segment with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels was on January 4th 2010 not 2009 as it stands in description.
I'm just glad they made peace with each other.
It is said, that when it happened, Shawn looked really spooked and uttered to Bret, “I Swear I Had To Do With It”
Even though it took 12 years when Bret came back to the WWE, he did the right thing being the bigger man and forgave Shawn on RAW.
Maybe he should stop carrying around all the bitterness he feels for Goldberg too. Unlike HBK Goldberg has apologised repeatedly for kicking Bret in the head and that genuinely was an accident, Shawns words were intentional. If he can forgive Shawn he can forgive Goldberg too
That won't magically turn Goldberg into a good worker and Bret never sugarcoats his answers. Even when he despised Shawn, he always recognized Shawn as a great worker.
Bret continued to wrestle after the kick from Goldberg and took some pretty nasty bumps too.
@@jamesbyersmusic Funny how everyone cheered Goldberg in WCW, but turned on him when he did two matches a year as a veteran in WWE.
bret looks so old n broken , did a fit guy like him he could have had more years and he much healthier .. it’s hard.. but i’m sure he will
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Both S and B r v honest humble people .. am glad they hv buried the hatched and hv been civil about it. Like B says y drag it on. Well done 2 u both. U guys were 2 of the gr8est
Needed to hear this.. thank you
It's like this with someone I know who I used to be friends with years ago, long story short he betrayed me twice, and I have let it go, I just don't want to hang around with him anymore, just to protect myself from going through it again. I have heard that he's done it to others as well, which more than justifies my decision, I believe.
Sorry to hear that. Cut a friend out of my life after he said what he really thought of me. There was no going back.
Shawn has VERY few victories over Bret. Bret won the vast majority of their matches. Why was Shawn being willing to lose to Bret so important to him?
I think WM12 and Survivor Series 97 was the only two times Shawn beat Bret on TV?
Damn imagine the Brooklyn Brawler as world champ. That would be wild. Didn't know he was one of the people Bret was willing to drop the belt to.
Beautiful story from Bret.
It took a lot of strength and will power for Brett to get through that without bitching and blaming. Good for him
It's great that they finished that Beef... They had so many amazing Matches too and such a great Feud.
And in another Video i think Bret said it: "We are both Grandpas now. There is more impotent Stuff then this."
Bret was and will always be my favorite wrestler of all time. He was just brilliant to watch. Love from 🇿🇦✌️
Bret Hart's words hit really hard at the end. A relevant matter in my life needs that closure, and it needs to happen soon.
thats why you should do things out of your goodness without expecting good back, people are different and those two were very different. Shawn was more cut throat for the passion he had for the sport and Brett was more respectful for the passion he had for the sport.
Forgiving someone who wronged you and is sorry isn't that hard. What is hard is forgiving someone who wronged you and isn't sorry. But we still have to do it.
No we dont
@@shoeplayisbad1 Read the Lord’s Prayer. We have to forgive others if we want God to forgive us.
Story never changed. Say what you want but the story always is the same. When that happens, it’s the truth 💯
Glad he’s found some sort of peace with Shawm x
Bret never seems to take accountability and just because his “story never changes” doesn’t mean he is always telling the truth.
shawn has a god heart , he was insecure but deep down i think he felt bald .. hhh however is ruthless which is why he made his way to the top
Sometime Forgiveness is more for yourself than for the other person who wronged you
Bret Hart is an absolute gentleman
"Yea. But that was a work" - Kevin Nash
Scott Hall too 🤣
I love Bret Hart. He was a real man back then. No fake or phony stuff with him.
So one sentence said by Shawn made Bret hold the entire company? He was out the door and Shawn was unlikely to follow as he was Vince's pick for top dog. What did it matter? I know bret grew up in wrestling, it's his whole life but he takes himself way too seriously. I see blame on both sides. Yeah, they forfeit the belt all the time now and fans hate that. Not satisfying at all.
Jim Cornette talked about this, this is what Jim Cornette said, but it was untwined with some “I won’t lose the belt in Canada” lure… i can’t relate, I’m a retired professional motocross racer, if a top level motocross racer drops the title it’s because either a new prototype bike came out & it’s insane (I.e. Doug Henry in 1997 w/ his Yamaha YZM400F prototype), or because the up & coming kid finally raised his training and skills to the big bike (as happened to Bob ‘the Hurricane’ Hannah when Ricky Johnson did it to him in 1986, then Jeff Stanton did it to Ricky in 1989, then Jeremy McGrath did it to Jeff in 1993, then Ricky Carmichael did it to Jeremy in 2001, then James ‘Bubba’ Stewart beat Ricky in his Final career Supercross in 2007…)
and that's why Bret is 'the best there ever will be'
I have been very suspicious that Shawn wasn't being real and apologetic over the issues between Bret. It show's people do/can change for the good. Pleased that both have chosen to be professional and do what is right for themselves.
The Goat.
Loved his fans and was an honest man with integrity in a world full of dishonest people.
Forgive...but never forget
Saint Hart is what i call him from now on. He's the best role model in our generation for a celebrity and a Star to be more than human. Its a Spiritual significance for these events to unfold for our view and for us to see how these gentlemen especially Saint Hart and how his approach in life can reflect on our descision making skills espiecially in forgiveness!
After years of bitterness between the two these guys eventually have made up for it. I know it was a controversial situation and event however looking back on it at least it was lessons learned from it.
vince spoiled shawn
Bret hart is a man of integrity. Always has been from day one.
That handshake on 4th January, 2010 might have been genuine, but it damn sure didn't _look_ like it: they both had expressions and demeanours that said, "We're doing this through gritted teeth for the cameras."
There are people out there who will say bad things about Bret, but theres one thing no one, even his biggest detractors have ever said about him, and thats "he's a liar."
His word is bond, what he says and what he does are spontaneously the same.
I think that gives that moment that much more weight, that when he said he wanted to forgive Shawn, he meant it, and he wouldn't have done that just as an angle if he didn't honestly believe it.
If theres one thing you could ever accuse Bret Hart of, it's being too honest for the wrestling business.
Bret: "Wrestling is all about trust and respect"
Umm, what? I've heard enough stories from the old timers to know that's a complete crock of sh!t. How many people have Vince and other promoters mislead or lied to? How many Wrestlers no-showed events back in the territories for whatever reason. Bret's own Brother has been known to be a bit of a sleaze. He watched his brother in-laws relentlessly bully people for no reason. What's respectful or trustworthy about that? He's being intentionally naive to fit his narrative. Bret and some of the other workers might be about Trust and respect but wrestling isn't.
Between the locker room, there's supposed to be a code. It's always been locker room vs promoter. Depending on the territory, wrestler's "would go into business for themselves." But you have to remember the business was a small circle, so wrestler's normally had to do business properly, otherwise if you didn't do business right you quickly got a reputation and that could hinder you from working.
@@TheD42069 So many of them were awful behind the curtain to each other and had careers until they retired. Vader worked until his health wouldn't allow it and everyone hated working with him. Davey Boy kept working and he was pretty awful in the 80's alongside Dynamite. Henning sounds like an awful terrible person with all the trouble be made for people and for some reason everyone remembers him fondly. I could go on and on. sorry man. I'm not buying it.
@@engrey I understand where you're coming from... Think of it like a union. You may not always agree with how things run but, if the union is doing its job correctly, Then when it's time to make money the union is supposed to be fighting for you. In the wrestling world, it's very much a popularity contest and can be very High School-ish... But when it's time to do business, there's supposed to be a code. I grew up wanting to be a wrestler, genetics are against me as well as sickness but I studied this and probably read a lot of the same books and heard the same stories that you have... Cornette even has an entire book on the beginning of Pro-Wrestling and how it evolved, how those same rules are supposed to apply. In the '90s it did still. I don't know about now but the basics should still be the same.
Most of those guys would be nobodies if Vince hadn't turned them into stars.
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Triple H, the Undertaker etc were nobodies before they came to WWE. Vince turned them into stars and made them household names, championships and money.
I respect Bret even more now.
The Best there IS. The Best there WAS. The Best there EVER will be! A genuine Canadian Legend.
Its amazing how well Bret is looking at his age and after all this health issues...
Good to see Bret had let it go, after all these years
Love the hit man.....he really is the best there was
Shawn is a changed man, he even said it himself.
I prefer the older Shawn, he says it's because he's a born again, whatever works for him.
It's easy to hate.
It's hard to forgive.
I adore and respect Bret Hart. He is a true gentleman, a 100% class act. His reputation among his fellow wrestlers is one of true admiration and respect. He and his baby brother Owen are rated in the Top 20 of the greatest WWE GOATs. Both men and brothers are well deserved of this class ranking. God bless Bret and Owen's families.
Hitman is one of the greatest to have stepped into a wrestling ring he is a icon
life go so fast is sick!-love n respect
My favorite wrestler back in the day
This 2 legends are part of my teenage years 🤗😊😘
Bret Hart is, was and always be the champ. Bret Hart is a people's champion and a great man of character.
Bret is one of my heros
In a way, it has to suck to be Bret.
Every shoot, he has to talk about the Screwjob, Owen's death, and Goldberg ending his career. I could wager he's probably done at least 100 interviews where he talks about the same things.
Every. Single. Shoot.
And yet so many people just call him a bitter old man. I mean, I'd be bitter too if I had to constantly talk about the worst moments of my life over and over again in every interview for 20 years. I 1000% don't blame Bret at all for coming across as a little bitter at times. Honestly it's a testament to his character that he isn't more bitter and has been able to forgive at least some of what happened to him.
@@KairiPrime Maybe time he got over it.
C.M. Punk is the modern day "Bret Hart" ( aka a "wrestling" Karen).
@@dhenderson1810 Bret has gotten over a lot of it. If he hadn't, he never would have come back to the WWE, forgiven Vince, and him and Shawn wouldn't have a legit good friendship now, which they do. The reason he still sounds so bitter in interviews is because A: Bret just has a very dry personality, that's just who he is. And B: because he's had to talk about it in every single interview for the last 25 years, which has to get just a little annoying.
Great lesson on life.
I loved bret hart, I always thought he was coolest looking wrestler when I was young!
No question. I would have swapped my right arm for his glasses 😆😆
Such a unique look. He stood out as a great champion.
The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be..
I don't think it was ever personal for Shawn as it was for Bret because that's just how Shawn was with everyone. Look at what happened with him and Vader. Vader messed up and Shawn got pissed and kicked him in the head for real and visibly appeared very upset at it. Shawn took his wrestling seriously and he was just being honest about how he is and what he could do if it came to that. Does it make it okay? Of course not and should be something that should be talked about and dealt with backstage. But this is a profession where "receipts" are a thing and just a part of the work culture so though it may not be right, it's understandable. But I also understand Bret's side too.
Got to meet Bret last year it was pretty Cool to see one of the goats
Sad part is that if Bret never reached out Shawn prob would have never reached out first to try and mend the wrong of himself
Probably thinking: "He's mad at me. Why talk to a guy who doesn't want to talk to me?"
@@freakshowfilmfestival3591 In a 2011 recorded interview with Bret and Shawn Bret asked Shawn why he didn’t reach out. Shawn said he was scared that if he called and Bret cursed him out over the phone any chance of them being friends again would be gone forever. Shawn thought as long as he leaves Bret alone there is a chance one day they could be friends again. It shows Shawn cared. In his goodbye speech to the WWE fans in 2010 on the Raw following his final match at Mania 26 he thanked the fans, his coworkers, his parents, etc. but he only thanked 3 people by name. Those three people were Vince McMahon, Triple H, and Bret Hart.
Sometimes guilt is stronger than you and prevents you from doing many things, attempts to atone can be one of them. Speaking from experience.
Love you Bret. Greatest wrestler EVER!
Many folks love to talk about “being professional” when it means others showing deference or respect to themselves, but forget that being professional also includes doing the job that you’re being paid to do (within ethical guidelines of course).
Everyone in the situation was wrong, but Bret was wrong for preaching professionalism while being a blatantly insubordinate employee when push came to shove.
what he meant about being professional was not injuring his opponents in the ring. F***in' Goldberg was some huge monkey who didn't know how to wrestle, how to not hurt his opponent, you f***in' dummy.