MILVIZ PC-6 Porter | REAL PILOT | Mountain Cargo Run | Full Flight Review | MSFS
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In this video we carry out a full review of the MILVIZ PC-6 Porter within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will take the aircraft on a cargo run through Indonesia, from Moanemani airfield, over towards Bugalaga airstrip. The flight should be good fun and will be the perfect testing grounds for the Porter!
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
Music: Bensound.com
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Hry
10:00 That little panic sign is pretty hilarious.
Stop screaming "are we there yet?" might be a more suitable placard, imo :)
Haha! Spot on! XD
@@Breezew1nd That will work also, That sign alone would suit Jayne of MSFSofficial who's call sign is PAN1C.
Haha, it’s a nice little touch. Initially I didn’t quite get it, but it gave me a little chuckle when I did.
Personally I’d rather be “falling” out of the sky IN a Porter, than jumping OUT of one! XD
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Sounds likely to be me also.
8 minutes into the video and I'm buying it. Can't wait to get it into The Sky Park for some Coyote missions....it's PERFECT
I’m flying it out of the bush in the Congo right now for the Skypark coyote missions ;)
Just came back with a completed covid mission from skypark - done that with the pc-6 in nepal from pokhara to jomsom ! Awesome lovely 👍🏽😎 love the plane
Hopefully it will be soon to get the AP updated, that’s really the only flaw I had.
Haha, I hope you’re flying under the cover of darkness then! XD
Awesome! The Porter really is perfect for these sorts of flights, it feels right at home. Glad you are enjoying it : )
All the best!
Man, you nailed that landing!
Haha, thank you sir! ; )
It's a nice plane, and if they ever release an update with an old school non-glass cockpit option with gauges instead of these ubiquitous bloody glass panels it'll be a definite buy from me. The plane has lots of character and history for sure.
they will release a update with an analog cockpit as well as a bushtire and float version
Yes, overall a very nice effort from MILVIZ once again. As Panzer mentions, the plan is to release a “V2” of the aircraft with a whole host of extra features (including steam gauges). That’s the good news; the “bad news” is that V2 will be more expensive. V1 owners will get the V2 upgrade for free, so if you’re sure you’d want to pick the aircraft up once it has steam gauges, it would be cheaper to purchase it ahead of time. Of course I’m not trying to sell you anything haha, just so you have the info. . .
All the best sir and thanks once again! : )
Indeed Panzer, cheers : )
@@motoerhead1990 Is this official ? I would also really be interested in getting it if it gets an analogue gauge cockpit
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'm giving it a pass. I know it's a trivial thing, and I'm paranoid and maybe unreasonable, but I don't like the fact that it installs a "WASM Helper" service on the machine that must be kept running while playing which phones home constantly to verify the user legitimately owns it. I don't like that Milviz doesn't mention that anywhere on the product sale page, but only in the manual. It's not even mentioned on the "MSFS setup instructions" page. No other addon I've bought has that level of intrusiveness. I'm fine with JustFlight's system of having you log in once with its tool before the product installs. This is a step too far.
"This is not a pretty aircraft..." I beg your pardon!? haha
I'm probably the odd one on this, but this is a really cool looking aircraft design. Always been a fan of boxy cars, and it seems that taste followed me in the air as well.
Haha! Well, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. . .
I actually think the Porter looks nice, up until the nose. It’s just too long and looks strange being cantered down somewhat. I like some boxy aircraft, the Shorts 330 / 360 for example, but this one is just a bit too peculiar for me hehe. You may well be in the minority on this one Maxime, when even Milviz refers to it as an ugly duckling haha; but to each their own of course! ; )
It’s a very nice addon either way. Cheers, all the best! : )
Totally same opinion as you! I love the quirky stuff. I didn't know of this aircraft until I saw a screenshot of it when it got released. Seeing that side-profile, I just knew I had to get it!
Haha, well I hope you’re enjoying it Sebastian! : )
Came in for a refresher on the PC-6 and I had to smile when I read you're going to Bugalaga on this one.
Haha, it seemed like the perfect destination from the get-go Thomas, but when I saw the Indonesian registration / livery + the interesting weather conditions at the time, I knew there was only one choice to be made ; )
I hope you enjoyed the flight and indeed that you’re enjoying the PC-6! Happy flying : )
Awesome! My second favourite turboprop STOL plane. Now we just need a Twin Otter.
Aerosofts twin otter is out in the next month or so. Can’t wait!
@@adhesiveducks That's awesome. I'll be moving back home by early December then I'll be picking up a new yoke so I can't wait. The timing works really well.
Me too Daniel! Should be another great addition to the sim : )
Haha, well you got lucky Mark! First the Porter and the Aerosoft Twin Otter shouldn’t be too far behind ; )
Both should be great fun in the sim. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on a Twotter as well!
All the best : )
GREAT video, I like the outside views of the takeoff and landing. We can really see the suspension working when landing. MILVIZ did a good job with the initial release and once the updates are added, this will be a top notch "Porter"
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I agree, the Porter is already a very nice aircraft in its own right (happy to see that MILVIZ didn’t go for the “take their money and then fix it up later approach” - as so many other devs seem to do now), but I’m very much looking forward to some steam gauges and a bit of float flying as well later on.
Cheers once again, all the best! : )
I bought this thing and said I'd check it out for a few minutes. 5 hours later I am a Papa New Guinea bush flying master. Back country flying isn't really my thing, but MS2020 with a PC-6 is freaking spectacular!
Haha! Very happy to hear it! MSFS isn’t perfect, but it does do some things brilliantly (this sort of flying being one of them). The MILVIZ Porter is a great little aircraft - ideal for the “runways” of Indonesia haha.
Happy flying! : D
MILVIZ website announes : We are pleased to announce that our Porter is fully compatible with the latest version of the G1000 NXi from Working Title.
Ah awesome! They did promise they would have it fixed up with the next stable version of the NXi mod - great to see that they did. Thanks for the info Bernd!
All the best : )
Why is the rudder and ground handling so poor in almost every plane in MSFS 2020 this has been a problem for so long gosh.
Because Asobo not only decided not to fix the poor ground physics in FSX, but made it worse, especially with the takeoff and landing roll because they decided to let wind effect the plane at many times less speed than FSX did which just makes those sections of a flight completely awful. This was actually brought up in ones of their Q&A videos but I doubt they will fix it any time soon, just one of many disappointing design decisions from Asobo.
It´s terrible!
Interesting WhiteHawk; didn’t know that’s what Asobo had done / that’s what is causing some of the issue. It’s a real shame they still haven’t addressed such problems yet; these sorts of things are really holding MSFS back from being the *sim* that it could / should be.
Cheers!
@@WhiteHawk77 it's such a strange thing because at its heart it doesn't feel like a simulation. A pretty thing but a sim not really.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yeah, one of the three guys that do the Q&A videos answered the question about the weathervaning on the ground and he mentioned they had reduced the plane being effected from 90 meters a second in FSX down to either 10 or 20, combine that with the poor grip of the tyres which he also mentioned and the lack of weight feeling and this is the main problem with the ground physics. So they know the problem, but like many things they haven’t done anything about it.
Smashing review yet again, many thanks! At first glance it’s never going to set the world on fire in the looks department but given a little time I reckon it’ll be a real grower! Looks like Milviz have a lot planned for version 2 as well, including a panel with ‘steam’ gauges (my preference). It’s great that they are already looking ahead, they are obviously committed to their products and therefore their customers. You’re spot on about the ‘feel’ of Milviz aircraft, they certainly have that ‘Je ne sais quoi’ which elevates them somewhat above the pack. Thanks again.
I would love a piston Porter.
Me too! I think the piston version looks much nicer as well. That being said, it is nice to have a better turboprop in the sim. I don’t believe it to be the case, but it would be awesome if Milviz gave us the piston version as part of the V2 upgrades. That’s probably a lot of work for an “upgrade” though. . .
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I never liked the looks of the PT-6, at least on single engine aircraft.
The Astazou and Garrett versions looked significantly better.I had the chance to do pre delivery inspections on some of the last PC-6s.
Even had the chance to do a somewhat higher speed taxi on some of them.
Keep up the great work mate!
Yeah, I know what you mean for sure. The PT-6 doesn’t tend to fit very well proportionally with the smaller aircraft that use it. That’s awesome that you got some real-world hands-on experience with the aircraft though. Doing the inspections must have been interesting / fun. Haha, just taxi a liiiitle bit faster and you’ll be airborne! ; )
Thanks very much! Will do : )
Thank you very much Peter! Glad you enjoyed it.
I love the aircraft, but still can’t quite get over its looks haha. As they say though, it’s what’s on the inside that counts ; )
Yep, it’s great to see MILVIZ plan to support / develop the aircraft further and also that they chose to release V1 in a more or less completed state all the same. Much like their Corsair. . .
They do indeed have the ability to create a certain Je ne sais quoi - a phrase I actually wanted to use in the video, but didn’t dare butcher with my pronunciations haha. It’s hard to pinpoint what exactly gives an addon such a quality, I think the sounds play a big part, although I’m sure many different factors play into it.
Thanks for watching! All the best : )
Flew the free version of the pc-6 first time today in fs2020 and immediately fell in love with it... Will definitely buy this later on
Ah great Lagu! Well if you liked the default one, I’ve no doubt you will love MILVIZ’s version! : )
Happy flying!
Your channel is the best. I literally watch your videos to hear you yell “CLEAR PROP” it’s the best thing in the world ngl.
Hahaha, thanks Adam! Really glad you’re enjoying the channel. I didn’t realise it was such a highlight, but I’ll take it XD
“Clear prop!” ; )
Thanks for the review. I've been wanting the PC-6 in MSFS since before release and I'm glad to hear this one is very acceptable. You made a sale.
Of course, flying this on the hand-carved mountain strips of New Guinea (whether the Indonesian or the PNG end of the big island) is exactly why I wanted this plane in the game, due to having watched "The Worst Place to be a Pilot". While the MSFS landing challenge uses the C208B, Bugalala and it's MANY less-famous-but-often-more-challenging neighbors seem, in real life, to be the domain of PC-6s instead. So thanks also for flying in this part of the world for this review.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video! Well that was rather fortuitous for you, that we got a PC-6 relatively early in the sims lifespan haha. I think it definitely does the aircraft justice - hopefully you’re enjoying it!
“The Worst Place to be a Pilot” was an excellent series, very much enjoyed it myself. I rather had it in mind when making the video. As you say, this sort of flying is exactly what the Porter is suited to and indeed the sim.
Thanks again and happy flying! : )
Easily the best payware in my opinion. A bit tough at first but once you get it down it's super versatile and amazing to fly. 10/10
Great to hear that you’re enjoying the Porter, TY. Happy flying and all the best! : )
Glad you enjoyed this one as much as I have been! Just a note from the developer team regarding the autopilot issues you’re having: If uninstalling the early access NXi to get back to the default G1000, make sure you restart the sim before jumping in the Porter.
Yeah, really enjoying it zkdos, great fun! Thanks for the info; that wouldn’t apply in my case though, as I’ve yet to install the NXi mod at any point (despite constantly meaning to haha). Is the autopilot working ok for you then? I figured it was probably a fundamental sim issue causing the undesirable behaviours.
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations the same autopilot heading drift seems to happen on my system with the PC6 once ever few flights- can't quite nail it down. Seems to be better at capturing a heading once already level. Will keep testing!
Yeah, it worked fine for me on the first attempt and then was all wonky thereafter. I haven’t had the chance to try it since, but I’m assuming it’s a fundamental sim issue that’s causing it. Guess I’ll just have to stop being lazy and fly the d*mn aircraft for now haha.
All the best! : )
Interesting aeroplane. I saw a documentary series a year or two ago about the pilots flying these aircraft in Indonesia and the almost impossible airstrips they operated into/out of. Absolutely amazing.
It's a shame that the 3rd party developers are being held back so much by Asobo. This autopilot fault has been around since day 1 in one form or another and personally, I think it's time to put the eye candy development on hold for a bit and sort some of the core features out. The rudder sensitivity issue is another one that needs serious attention. All that aside, this aeroplane looks like a lot of fun and I notice that those buying now will get the additional 2nd release features for free which could be a good saving.
Good to see another new aeroplane release and a new video from you. Keep well and fly high !! Erm, perhaps I should rephrase that ...
I know exactly the documentary series, it was brilliant! “Worst Place to be a Pilot”, or something like that I seem to recall. That’s one of the only documentaries of this nature where you could tell, some of what those guys got up to was genuinely scary / dangerous (usually these sorts of documentaries have a lot of shaky camera angles and shouting from the commentator haha). Really enjoyed that docu-series.
It is a real shame that the sim is still exhibiting some fundamental issues over one year later. I very much enjoy MSFS and it has certainly come into its own, but I completely agree that it’s time for Asobo to sit down and hash out some fixes to some of the basics. It seems developers regularly use the Asobo framework (I don’t know whether they chose to, or have to), so that really needs to be a solid foundation. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any rush to fix such issues though. . .
Glad you enjoyed the video once again, I’ll fly well within the bounds of the law, no worries haha : P
Cheers, all the best! : )
Hello :) coming back to this review since I bought the spöter for Xbox now. Since there is a phase2 Version now I would be highly delighted to see a re-review of the plane. Thanks for the video again and honest opinion.
Thanks very much for the suggestion Michael. I would love to revisit the Porter but as always, it's merely an issue of finding the time to do so haha. New addons tend to take priority for review and I can't even keep up with new addon releases these days ha. That being said, I'd be happy to add the steam gauge Porter to my list of possible future videos : )
I'm glad you enjoyed the review. Cheers once again!
Reminds me of a old auto we had here in the states called "THE THING". I think VW made it.
Well neither the name, nor the fact that you’re reminded of it by the Porter, has me imagining that “The Thing” was a very glamorous machine Ron haha.
Curiosity just got the better of me and I went and googled it: Not nearly as bad as I was expecting, though I can definitely see what you mean!
Cheers Ron. All the best!
Ps I see you left another comment and then (presumably) deleted it: I am indeed using TrackIR for panning around etc : )
As always excellent review. My CC was ready. I had a serious talk with her. She understood that this is a must have for me🤣
Thank you very much for doing the review and take care.
Thank you sir! Hahaha, well it’s great to hear that “she” was understanding. Don’t push your luck too far though, or she might refuse to keep paying! XD
Happy flying : )
70 % zoom makes the fisheye lens effect disappear.
Thanks Quecksilber! I’ve played around quite a bit with various settings to try and dial out the issue (I can’t say I have much of an eye for these sorts of things either), I’ll give 70% a go.
Cheers! : )
Great Video, learned a few tips with regards to getting her started up (was getting rather frustrated last night trying to start it!)
Kinda glad to see/hear that I'm not the only one having the Azure voice issue, been tearing my hair out trying to rectify the issue (Ain't got that much hair to start with!)
Keep the vids coming!
Thanks Keith, glad the video has been useful in getting you up in the air!
Yes, the Azure voice issue seemed to creep in during the last update. At one point I was losing internet connection quite often as well, but that seems to have calmed down a bit now thankfully. The Azure issue is annoying (as for me, if that window pops up, it means re-shooting the entire section of video), but I don’t think there’s anything that can be done about it on our end. It’s annoying how once you lose it, you can’t get it back without a restart. I had actually turned it off altogether, but figured I’d give it a try for the video. No joy there apparently. . .
Glad you’re enjoying the content! Thanks very much and all the best : )
Now you can make your own "Worst Place to be a pilot" episodes. Since they mostly use the Porter at Susi Air.
Absolutely! That’s exactly the kind of flying the Porter / MSFS is ideally suited to, great fun : )
As a skydiver with 5K jumps from the porter the sounds are excellent.
Thanks for the info David! MILVIZ do state that the sounds are recorded from the real aircraft, so it’s great that it translates across : )
Slight side note; 5K. . . as in 5000 jumps?? : O
You know, you're a great ambassador for MSFS. When I first clapped eyes on the PC-6 I thought that is not for me. It's well and truly fugly. And then I watch your review and that all changes. You have a knack of making rather unwanted aircraft into one for the hanger. The developers owe you one 😁 CLEAR PROP!
Chris.
Haha, thanks very much Chris!
Going off looks, I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind wanting to buy the Porter XD
I always start out trying to paint the product in the best possible light I can (putting it in its natural operating environment, trying to keep the flight realistic but somewhat entertaining etc). I hope that doesn’t lean in towards “false advertising”, perhaps making the product appear more enjoyable than it might otherwise be; but creating these sorts of scenarios is really the part I enjoy of video-making and I think / hope I’m honest enough as I go, that it still gives a fair and thorough representation of the product.
Sadly I’m not getting any kickbacks from the devs just yet for my efforts - but £20 to sweeten up the review wouldn’t go amiss! : P
Cheers! Not sure if you picked up the Porter or not, but if you did, I hope you’re enjoying it. All the best : )
Talk about immersion! What a pro, super cool content. 10/10
Thank you very much indeed! Certainly the aim is to try and make the videos immersive, so I’m glad you felt that was the case. Very happy to hear you enjoyed the video overall : )
All the best!
I lovr your reviews man! I love your honesty and how you test it's realism like you do! Absolutely incredible!
Thank you very much indeed! Really happy to hear you’re enjoying the style of the content and indeed the veracity (I hope) of the reviews.
Very much appreciated! All the best to you : )
Personally I'm a fan of its appearance. It's not beautiful at all, but it's cool because it's mean and rugged looking. It is aggressively bush plane.
Yet another concise review of a pretty promising-looking addition to the sim. Definitely one that may need to be added to the library it seems... Thanks! Also, smashed that landing out the park as well, too good!
Haha, thanks very much Jared! Yeah another really nice effort from MILVIZ on the aircraft. Glad you enjoyed the video and indeed the landing! ; )
All the best! : )
Really nice scenery and cockpit. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure! Indeed, a really nice combination in the sim overall. Thanks for watching, all the best! : )
Spot on Video hope FS2020 has repaired the turbo prop problems from the past
Thanks very much Mike!
Turbo-props have improved somewhat since release, although there is certainly still work to be done in the sim. The Porter seems to be a pretty decent rendition of one overall, though I will say that I’ve never flown one in the real world, so take that with a pinch of salt. . .
Cheers again, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations sounds good to me
Great review thank you. For me, this modelling is perfect. Milviz really know how to make the cockpit look 3d - compared to many aircraft that look like a 2d image stuck in front of the scenery.
Thank you sir, my pleasure!
Yes, completely agree. MILVIZ definitely know how to put an aircraft together. They really know how to create an aircraft that feels as it should. Modelling is great, I think the sounds go a long way to creating this effect as well. Whatever trickery they use, very much enjoying the Porter so far!
Thanks once again and all the best : )
Great review video and loved the 'moody' music in the middle :-). I have to say I knew nothing of this aircraft. Seems an absolute dream for Air Hauler etc as you rightly said. The price is also excellent (around £27 incl taxes) direct from Milviz, which I have to say is very reasonable. The only thing that is holding me back is it's speed, which is quite low but as you say that then gives you the ability to enjoy the scenery which is a very good point. I'm about 99.9% in for buying this and your review helped me with that decision, as always :-). Don't have time with work to fly in the next week or so but have bookmarked it to buy when I have a wee bit time to learn it and enjoy some flying with it in Air Hauler :-). Thanks again for a brill review and well done on a great landing :-)
The speed is indeed an issue, it also makes the plane not very economical, but, in the FSEconomy world, it holds 11 pax (they probably have to stand to fit in, but as long as they pay for their tickets, I don't mind), so I expect it to be a moneymaker nonetheless. The Aerosoft Twotter will probably take over that role in my "operation" when it is released, though -- it has similar STOL capabilities, but almost twice the capacity and it can go a tad faster.
@@aurel42 Thats a very good point Marc as regards the Twin Otter. I think i'll wait and see when the Otter releases which I believe is only a matter of a few weeks away :-). As you rightly say it may very well be a better fit for cargo ops :-)
Yes, burning 60 GPH (or whatever it was) to travel at 100kts isn’t a great trade off haha. As you say though, it can carry a decent load, which somewhat makes up for it. Don’t tell anyone you’ve got the passengers standing, you’ll be giving the low cost carriers ideas! XD
I’m looking forward to the Twotter as well : D
Thanks as always James!
Yeah, it came a little bit out of nowhere in terms of release haha (at least it seemed that way to me) and the PC-6 is not an aircraft I’m all that familiar with personally. It is a very enjoyable product, but the speed is definitely worth considering. Depends on where you’re flying and over what sort of distances I suppose. If you’re on the fence, waiting for the Twin Otter and comparing the two is probably the way to go - hopefully I can bring you another review when that arrives ; )
Thanks again James, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I think that's exactly right - i'll await your review on the Otter :-) and weigh it up from there :-). Many thanks and all the very best :-)
Thank you for the review going to get it now.
My absolute pleasure sir - I do hope you’re enjoying the Porter then!
Happy flying and all the best : )
Absolutely incredible graphics!! I really am amazed!
Ah well thanks very much! Yeah, MSFS does a really nice job under certain lighting / weather conditions and I think they came together really nicely here : )
Cheers and all the best!
Great review and good choice of testing location. I would have also accepted Laos and Air America livery… 😂
Thanks Tristan! Haha, it was actually a toss up between this, an Air America flight, or taking the ski version out for a blast around Aerosofts Antarctica. Indonesia won out this time. Who knows, maybe I’ll still tick the other trips off at some point as well ; )
Cheers! : )
The landing reminds me of the movie “Air America”…
Haha, it does have that sort of a vibe to it. I can assure you though, that all that cargo down the back was well above board! ; )
All the best! : )
pc-6 bought!!! now waiting for the Twin otter
Nice Jose! I hope you’re enjoying the PC-6; I’m definitely looking forward to the Twin Otter as well : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i love it, and you kill that landing at 33:17 OMG
Happy to hear it! : )
Haha, thanks man! Not going to lie, I’ve done worse ; )
All the best!
Great a Bushplane, thanks for this Video ...
Haha, am I sensing a hint of sarcasm there? We do indeed have a lot of Bush planes in the sim, but I suppose that’s in part because the sim is currently much better suited to this sort of flying, as opposed to commercial jet ops. Hey, at least it’s not a Cub XD
My pleasure on the video. Thanks and all the best! : )
I've noticed on other G1000 aircraft that when the autopilot holds a heading offset from the heading bug, you can fix it by pressing D on the keyboard. It's as though the sim applies gyro drift to the heading bug, but not to the heading indicator. It might be worth a try.
Ok, thanks Jay! I’ll certainly give that a go if I encounter any such issue in the future. As you say, it sounds like perhaps the default autopilot is flying the heading “card” as opposed to the heading bug (on the G1000, you wouldn’t be expecting the heading to drift over time anyway - so still quite a few gremlins in the system).
I think it’s fair to say that it was a more significant issue with the Porters autopilot; it would essentially lose control of the aircraft on some occasions. I’ve seen similar on other default aircraft from time to time, but autopilot behaviour has varied significantly from update to update.
Cheers : )
PFD keypad, select PFD and wind vector would be handy into uncontrolled bush strips. May it´s not available on the G1000 on this plane.
Hi Claus,
That’s true. I don’t know exactly what functionality should / shouldn’t be there, but I do know that the default G1000 is just an interim measure. The aircraft will be compatible with the Working Title mod, after its next update - that should add significantly more functionality to the Garmin units.
Cheers, all the best! : )
Great review thanks dude!
My pleasure! Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
14:30 I might have missed if you mentioned that you're flying a pre-release model, but in the model I purchased the other day, the flap switch is modelled and working.
I was flying the release candidate of the aircraft Marc (as far as I’m aware), but I probably chose my words poorly. I meant that it’s not animated, as opposed to “not modelled”. Is it animated for you then?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes, the switch moves in whatever direction I pull it.
Hmm, that’s odd. I wonder whether it moves if you use mouse interaction, but doesn’t if you use hardware to select the flaps. I was using my hardware and was sure it wasn’t moving. . . but maybe I just had a mental lapse haha.
I’ll have to check again when I get the chance. Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, I think that's it. I never noticed the switch move when using hardware controls. I watched your review while I was flying the PC-6 and when I heard you say it wasn't modelled, I used the mouse on it (legacy mode: grab and pull up/down) and it moved.
Ahh, that must be it then! Thanks for the info.
Btw, I see you tried to post some stuff about the DRM (that were then deleted). Just to let you know, it wasn’t me that deleted the posts. I presume maybe you posted a link in them? Unfortunately CZcams will automatically delete almost anything with a link in it. I’m happy for people to post / talk about anything here, so long as it’s legal etc haha - don’t want you thinking I was trying to sensor any negative press etc.
Cheers Marc : )
We have steam gauges now!!!!
That’s the review I was waiting for! Great video and excellent choice of music as always. The deal breaker for me at the moment is the glass cockpit. It’s just wrong. I’ll wait for version two with the old fashion steam gauges :-).
I’ve never flown that plane but I had a chance to do some aerobatic training in the Pilatus P3 which would be great fun in the sim…hoping MilViz is listening 😉. Thanks again for another great videos
Buy it now! The price goes up when version 2 comes out. It says so on their website.
I dunno. If you intend to fly in New Guinea (either end but especially the PNG end), you want the glass for the synthetic vision. That island is nothing but clouds full of rocks that rise into oxygen altitudes, and you're going to tiny, irregularly shaped, hand-carved dirt strips draped haphazardly on precipitous slopes in very narrow, bottomless valleys. Yet all approaches are visual because there's no electricity to speak of on the ground. However, you often need the synthetic vision just to get into the correct valley while avoiding the "cumulo granitus" all around.
Haha, thank you sir!
Well I can’t say you’re wrong hehe. The G1000 is definitely of huge benefit operating in these sorts of environments, but of course somebody had to figure out how to get it done without, all those years ago (as I’m sure you know all too well!). Great to see that Milviz will be “correcting” the issue in the future though ; )
As Jason mentions, the aircraft will actually become more expensive with the advent of V2; V1 users will however get it for free. So worth considering getting in there early, if you really think you might want to pick it up. That being said, I’ve learnt my lesson over the years; if I just buy things that I absolutely want to fly in the sim (at whatever price), it’s cheaper than picking things up that I *might* fly (and then often never do) in a sale haha.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a P3 before. I just googled it - immediately wanted one haha! It looks like a lovely fun little aircraft.
Thanks once again, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes i think you would enjoy the P-3, it has a very, shall we say, cozy cockpit, pretty tight for a big guy like me but then again it only has fuel for about two hours of flying. It has the same control stick as the Spitfire and shares some of the lovely flight characteristics!
they're doing the scummy approach and raising price for V2. Buy now if interested, 30$ is correct, over that they're just asking too much
Love the music integration. Solid review. Will wait for a few evolutions before purchase if I can defer gratification. Really appreciate your professional presentation of flying skills. Disappointed with no option for steam gauges.
According to the MilViz site, this is "stage 1" of the release. "Stage 2" will bring steam gauges and more undercarriage options, but upon its release, the price for the add-on will go up. Not sure how I feel about that, but this was an instant buy for me anyway, because MilViz. A bit disappointed by the DRM solution they chose (apparently a constantly running hidden Windows service), but, as an honest customer, I'm always disappointed when I'm being treated like a potential criminal, that's just me. Apart from that and a few minor issues which can all be worked around, I don't regret the purchase.
@@aurel42 Helpful. Thanks,
It is a shame about the DRM issue. I understand that devs don’t want their work being abused, but it’s frustrating that it’s often legitimate customers that have to “pay the price”. Personally whilst I don’t like it, it’s not a deal-breaker for me (sadly it seems to be becoming more and more common) but I can see why people wouldn’t be keen to install such thing. I gather the Marketplace version will not have the same DRM, but from what I’ve seen on here, MILVIZ appear to have upset some customers with the whole situation.
Unfortunate; the aircraft is another really nice MILVIZ product and in my personal dealings with them, they’ve been nothing but nice. Obviously one would hope that all customers are treated in the same fashion. . .
Cheers Marc!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I have no issues with less intrusive forms of copy protection, like license keys with online checks during installation, but having a Windows service running constantly in the background, using resources, potentially creating security issues (short of an audit, I have no way of finding out whether the developer knows what they are doing) is pushing it. Just imagine every 3rd party dev used technology like that… are we supposed to constantly deinstall and reinstall the products as we use them, or should we just accept dozens of background agents permanently using resources and doing… something?
I think I'll try to be more careful with my purchases in the future. I'll stick to devs/vendors which have too much respect for their actual customers to punish them for the misbehaviour of others. Voting with my wallet is all I can do in capitalism to encourage ethical behaviour of companies.
Thanks very much, really glad you enjoyed the video! : )
As Marc mentions, steam gauges are planned at a later date (which I’m happy to hear). Waiting is generally a prudent way to go, but just bear in mind that the product price will go up with V2; so it may (or may not) be worth getting in there early, if you think the Porter is ultimately a must-buy for you. Not trying to sell you anything haha, just so you know. . .
Thanks again, all the best!
I'm guessing the wire above the cargo door is for parachute hook up.
Didn’t spot that wire at the time Santa, but I suspect you may well be right : )
Commented and bought the milviz pc-6 a couple of weeks ago :) The plane is really nice, BUT it has had 1 major thing that has mostly ruined my experience, which seems like a glitch to me since this doesnt happen on every single flight but almost all of them. This is copied from my reddit post about this issue of mine:
"I've had this issue where the milviz pc-6 throttle becomes totally unresponsive after taxiing for a short while after a cold start. No matter if my throttle lever is at 0% or 100%, nothing happens (except the throttle moves in game, it just doesnt do anything). Only reverse affects the engine, no problem there. The throttle lever always works for a short while when taxiing, but then all of a sudden it doesnt do anything. (now it doesnt even work at all after start up, just completely unresponsive)".
Even after following different start up procedures it happens. At first it didn't happen at all, the it started to occur randomly maybe 1 in 5 flights and now its 99% of my flights with the pc-6 which makes it, well... unplayable. Any idea on what the heck is going on or if Im doing something absolutely wrong? Thanks
Hi Lagu,
Apologies for the very slow reply - I’ve been rather busy. Sorry to hear you’re having issues with the Porter!
Have you managed to get things sorted now? Is the issue only affecting your flights in the Porter? As Software issues don’t tend to be intermittent, I’m wondering whether it’s not a hardware issue - maybe a conflicting keybind etc causing the issue? A recent sim update did also break quite a few addons in terms of throttle input; essentially, instead of assigning your throttle to the more generic “Throttle Axis”, you will now need to assign it to “Throttle Axis 1” on some addons. Other than that, it’s a bit tricky to figure out what might be causing your problem. Do you have any more details regarding how the issue tends to unfold?
Hopefully we can get it fixed for you (if you haven’t managed to do so already)! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hi, I think I got the problem fixed. Have been able to do ~8 flights with no problems now.
The fix was to be a bit more precise with the start up sequence/procedures. Noticed the tutorials I followed earlier were not quite correct resulting in the throttle problems. Following your start up procedures exactly fixed my problem, do thanks for that👍
Ah well that’s great to hear! Glad you got it sorted : )
Happy flying!
Great review as usual , big 👍 !! Yeah, very interesting aircraft . Wee bit on the slow side ( definitely not a Mooney 🤣) , but looks like a fantastic piece of kit for getting into some of those " hairy " landing strips !! As you said also , this would be a great aircraft for some of those airline management add-ons . I'm currently using OnAir , and had to give up landing at some of the "0" ranked ( suicidal ) grass landing strips . No issues with those when using this aircraft !!
Thank you sir!
Haha, for sure it’s no Mooney, I think the Mooney would’ve crumpled into a heap on landing at Bugaglaga though ha. I used to very much enjoy Air Hauler and have long been considering a series with it on the channel; unfortunately it became a massive time-sink for me in the past though haha, so I’m not sure that idea is really practicable at the moment. We’ll see. . . Either way, the Porter should be able to handle most landing strips that you can throw at it ; )
Cheers, all the best! : )
Thanks for the review. While i am not a big fan of the turbo props and a bit weary of the tailwheels, (specially after the Corsair) this does look like a fantastic plane for NeoFly. That visual cargo absolutely a very nice tough.
My pleasure as always!
I’m not a big GA turbo prop user in general either to be fair, but I did genuinely enjoy the Porter. I wouldn’t worry too much on account of the tailwheel, the aircraft is much more controllable than the Corsair (albeit the rudder is far too sensitive as mentioned).
Horses for courses as always, but I do think the PC-6 ticks a lot of boxes for making it a fun “MSFS economy” cargo hauler. Of course we should also have the Twin Otter coming fairly soon, so that might be of more interest if you don’t want another taildragger.
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks a lot. Who is the dev of the Twin Otter? I just learned the PC-6 comes with a DRM program, and to me that is a massive no-no. So i will wait untill it hits the ingame store or just go for a different plane.
The Twin Otter is being developed by Aerosoft. They made quite a nice Twin Otter for FSX / P3D; although I hear rumours that this one might be a bit more on the “lightweight” side - I hope that won’t be the case.
Yes, the DRM is far from ideal and indeed many people aren’t happy with it. It seems as though MILVIZ may be considering a change of course on that one, but otherwise the Marketplace version will be DRM free as you say.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah kinda curious to see how it will be, light in system simulation or as in actual weight simulation?
There is a Kodiak comming as well.
Hard to choose. Though i still enjoy the Arrow a ton so i can wait (for now).
Though the Porter is very tempting, more so then the Islander.
Haha, “light” as in systems fidelity etc unfortunately. Again, only a rumour I’ve heard, I have nothing to back it up, so let’s hope that’s not the case! It’s an aircraft I was really looking forward to myself. I know Aerosoft did both a basic and a more “study-level” version of the aircraft for FSX / P3D. Either way, I’ll definitely want to take a look at it on the channel when it arrives.
I would definitely take the Porter over the Islander. I prefer the Islander in real-life, but the MILVIZ porter is better than the BBS Islander in just about every regard.
All the best! : )
Great video. I've just finished working through a problem with my G1000 in this plane (turned out the PMS GTN 750 doewsn't play nicely with the default G1000) so I'm getting familiar with the checklist, yours is the only review of the ones that come out in the last few hours that properly follows it, well done :)
Thanks very much!
That’s a shame about the PMS GTN 750 causing issues. With any luck, perhaps when the aircraft is updated with the Working Title G1000, that will fix up any such issues. I try and operate the aircraft as accurately as I can (given the time I have to learn it) in most of my videos; 1) I enjoy simming In such a fashion, 2) I figure it’s the most effective way of seeing what works / what doesn’t in a review. Every channel needs its USP I guess - and I’ve tried to make authenticity mine.
Glad you enjoyed the video and found running through the checks etc useful. Thanks very much for watching and all the best! : )
this video was a godsend ! I was trying to make my G1000 power up in reversionary mode the way the lead dev told me in the support forum it should, but every video review I watched - and me - either powered up avionics bus 1 without popping out the bus tie so both screens came on, or just turned both buses on before starting the engine. I was starting to think it wasn't actually possible until I saw you do it :)
I'm not sure what the issues are with the NXi G1000 - I know it scales the gauges differently to the default G1000 so some gauges aren't there e.g. the fuel gauge drops off the bottom of the screen and apparently there are some other things, but I'm not sure what and I'm actually quite happy not having fuel gauges if it means I don't have to keep moving the 750 in and out of the community folder :)
And there's already a mod on flightsim.to to show the GTN750 on the MFD - I wonder if the fuel display works :-p
Glad I can be of help! You can tell MILVIZ I’ll be here all week ; )
Haven’t tried the WT mod myself yet (I keep meaning to). It would be nice if each individual aircraft had its own separate “copy” of the core files it uses, instead of all these different aircraft / mods interfering with one another. That would save compatibility from breaking all the time and having to constantly switch out files in the community folder as you say. I’m sure there’s some sort of property rights issue that prevents it from being done though. . .
Glad you have the Porter figured out now. Happy flying! : )
Any one else getting an urge to go fine the village strips from AirAmerica?
Haha, that is exactly the sort of thing one ought to be doing in the Porter Fire Fox!
Cheers and all the best : )
I don't know how you say it takes a lot of power to get it going. All I need to do is release the park brakes and she moves even with the condition levers on low idle. The speed gets out of hand on idle.
I don’t know what to say Mizzy, that was my experience haha. I did have a fairly full load of cargo for the flight, so maybe the difference lies there? I think you can see in the video, that the aircraft wasn’t in a hurry to get moving. . .
All the best!
I had the same issue with the pilot in the Bonanza. Not sure why but it would turn the right. I restarted MFS and it worked fine after that.
Interesting. Makes sense, as I figured it’s probably some sort of fundamental sim / coding issue causing it. It worked absolutely fine for me on the first try, so perhaps a sim restart would have done the trick. Still, not ideal. Hopefully Asobo will give it the attention it needs soon!
Cheers, all the best : )
lol, blimey, my first thought was " what the heck is that" that is one snout on that aircraft..
Haha, it does look almost comical in the nose department. It’s a shame, aesthetically the Porter would be quite a cool looking aircraft without the elongated nose / engine cowling (and indeed I think the piston version does look quite cool). Well, I guess practicality / efficiency won out over style haha.
All the best : )
It does have quite the snout
Haha, indeed it does Rachel. Beautiful the Porter is not (in my opinion), but great fun nevertheless!
It'll be available from the ingame store without Milviz DRM.
Cheers Breeze! That’s useful to know. I’m not a huge fan of these sorts of DRM protections myself; I realise companies don’t want their work getting abused, but “punishing” the customer hardly seems like an optimal solution. It isn’t a deal-breaker for me personally (it seems to be a more and more common practice at any rate), but it’s certainly nice to know there will be an alternative option.
Thanks again! All the best : )
Landing 🛬 was beautiful 👌👌👌👌👌
Thank you sir! Always try my best ; )
fantastic video, sir! definately “instant get” if it’s available in the XBOX Market Place. I love this aircraft, there are a lot of legends around how durable it is, like you can land and take off on plow-land even normal to the furrows. (Idk wheter it is the right wording in English 😀) Here it was also used as an air ambulance plane. anyway, great job, as always, high level of immersion, thank you! 🙂 I have already several planes on the list to buy… Only one I don’t have is the wished amount of time to fly. 🙈
Haha, thank you Péter!
I think we all suffer from too many hobbies / passions and not enough time unfortunately : /
Certainly a worthy aircraft to have on said list. It’s a quirky one, but very nice effort from MILVIZ and good fun to fly. My gosh - taking off across a ploughed field in such a fashion. . . I’d imagine the pilot would break, even if the plane didn’t XD
Glad you enjoyed the video once again. It was definitely a fun trip on my end (though you wouldn’t believe the issues I had making the video! At one point I had to wait 30+ mins for the live weather to change, as presumably some Indonesian Met Officer had accidentally added an extra 0 to the wind speed. It was howling at 100kts in the sim and indeed was showing that on the real world METAR, where previously it had only been 11kts hahaha - and that was just one of the issues I encountered haha!).
All the best : )
Great review. Honest and to the point as always!
Couple things I noticed with PC-6. Rudder pedals go opposite way compared to input (although rudder itself goes the correct way). The autopilot has an issue with vertical speed where it sometimes throws you into a nose dive / stall climb. I found best way was to set target altitude then turn AP off, then back on again, which lets you set VS correctly.
Overall though I really enjoy the PC-6. Rugged workhorse with lots of nice immersive details (like visually clicking and removing covers, seeing cargo increase visually as you increase the amount of cargo you carry and so forth). Plus it's a huge bonus that, if you purchased the current version, you get a free upgrade for Stage 2 which includes steam-gauge only version as well as floats and tundra tire configurations. Very excited about that!
PS. During startup you put propeller pitch fully forward because it was 'well over 10 degrees', but prop should be in feather at +10 or above, and in full forward if the temperature is BELOW +10 :) Anyways, just an observation.
Thanks Vograx!
Is that so (re the rudder pedals)? I'm surprised I missed that. . . If that's the case, then that's interesting; I had the same issue with the Aeroplane Heaven Spit and someone else mentioned they had the same problem with another aircraft. I wonder whether there is currently an issue in the sim (I wouldn't think it's like MILVIZ, to make such a fundamental mistake).
For me, the autopilot has been a bit of a non-starter. I haven't really tried engaging it after my previous attempts, so haven't had to suffer any of it's issues as a result haha.
Completely agree, overall the PC-6 is great fun and a really nice offering from MILVIZ. Looking forward to V2 as well (particularly for the steam gauges).
Haha - good spot on the prop pitch! I am literate, I promise. . .
All the best : )
I hope they update the plane to have floats and steam gauges. I'm thinking about buying it, it's oddly alluring for some reason :)
Hi Christopher,
MILVIZ are indeed planning to update the aircraft to “V2”; with floats, steam gauges, tundra tyres etc. If you are considering picking it up, it’s perhaps worth a mention that V2 of the Porter will cost more than V1, however owners of V1 will get the V2 upgrade for free. In short, if you are planning to pick the aircraft up at some point, it would be cheaper to do so now - not trying to sell you anything, but just so you know (in case you continue to be allured haha).
All the best! : )
Ten months forward and you have to say that the aircraft became quite splendid.
The G1000 with NXI and the improved rudder feel make it a real blast to fly, except that is still ugly as hell 👹
Do you know, I haven’t even had the chance to fly the Porter again since this review! It’s not because I wouldn’t like to, I’ve just simply never had the time ha.
It would have been nice to have seen the steam gauges by now, but I gather MILVIZ have a pretty valid excuse on that one (many of their devs are based in Ukraine). I’m glad to hear that the Porter has gone from strength to strength, though as you say, you can’t fix ugly haha! XD
Cheers and all the best : )
This is exactly the comment I was looking for...! :) I bought a Kodiak few days back, and while I love it, it has a few things that really annoy me (like mostly non working annunciator messages on the G1000), so I'm thinking about getting a PC-6 as well, especially if the price will go up once stage 2 is out. Does the autopilot work now? Not that it's necessary in a plane like this, but I'd still like it to work. Any other issues with it?
@@FidoVsetin autopilot is working fine now, I fly it often and have not had any problems with it.
Any chance this will come to the in game store? I really want this plane but as an information security and privacy nerd milviz's DRM/installer really sketches me out
Hi loz,
I believe the Porter is planned for release on the Marketplace. Not sure exactly when that will happen though I'm afraid. I know there was quite some time between MILVIZ sending the Corsair over to Asobo and it actually being released on the Marketplace, so it could well end up being the same case for the Porter unfortunately.
All the best!
Having the Garmin in the cockpit looked a bit jarring, I expected quite a few more steam gauges for an airplane like that.
Overall looks like another great add on for the game, and awesome job as always by you reviewing the bird.
What have been some of your favorite planes so far?
Just looked at their roadmap for it, version 2 will have a steam panel plus some other stuff. V2 will be more expensive but V1 customers get a free upgrade. 👍🏻
Indeed. Certainly looking forward to the steam gauges on my end!
Cheers Peter : )
Agreed Daniel. Whilst for whatever reason, I didn’t mind the G1000 being in the Porter quite as much as I thought I would, steam gauges are always my personal preference. Sounds like MILVIZ are going to provide us with some down the line though : )
I’ll probably do a “Top 10” video at some point, but some of my favourite addons that spring to mind off the top of my head;
AT Simulations P149D
FlyingIron Spitfire MK IX
DC Designs Stearman
PMDG DC-6
Mario Noriega C22J
Just Flight Turbo Arrow
Carenado M20R
And I think now the Porter as well (despite its looks haha).
Glad you enjoyed the flight, thanks very much for watching! All the best!
Would you say The PC-6 and Milviz Aircraft’s in general study level/Advanced Learning system?
Hello La Mar,
I would liken the Porter to MILVIZ’s Corsair in many respects. The aircraft isn’t really “study level”; systems modelling is decent, as are most areas of the product, engine modelling is rather basic though. The Porter is broadly on a par with SWS’s Kodiak, if you’re familiar at all with that addon.
I hope that helps a little. Cheers : )
where is the elevator trimm in this plane? where is it visible?
Hi Alex,
I'm not all that familiar with the PC-6, but it looks like there is an alternate stab trim switch, located just to the right of the engine controls; I would take that to mean that the trim switch on the stick, is the primary means of trimming. The trim indications are located top-right, just above the left Garmin unit.
I hope that helps? All the best! : )
im doing everything youre doing but when i turn ignition off prop stop
Hi Bondy,
Sorry for the slow reply. I believe that the aircraft had been updated since this video (the sim as well). I suspect something has been changed in the meantime. Have you managed to figure things out and get the aircraft started yet?
All the best!
A review should mention the manual.
I agree, it is something I should mention more often during my reviews. I actually specifically wrote a note down to mention the product manual for the Porter, as there were some points I wanted to make; but unfortunately I then missed said note when finalising the review haha.
All the best : )
This is great thanks, just got this but for some reason when I click the iPad (even around the iPad) it doesn’t open .. anyone know why this would be ?
Thanks Saren, glad you enjoyed the video!
I haven’t had the chance to fly the Porter in a while myself, so not sure if that’s a common problem these days or not. Have you managed to figure out a fix to your issue yet? One thing that does spring to mind; the MILVIZ Corsair requires certain conditions to be met, in order for the aircrafts configurator tool to work (eg park brake on, battery on etc). Perhaps it is a similar situation with the Porter?
Let me know if you’re still experiencing the issue and I’ll take a look when I get the chance.
Cheers! : )
You are one of the best CZcamsrs in the sim community, in my opinion. I always look at your vids before downloading an addon.
One minor Gripe: That intro sound in all your videos is way too loud compared to the audio of the video. It always catches me by surprise and hurts my ears. You may wanna reduce it's volume a bit. (Or maybe it's just my Headphones and their frequency range that causes this)
Thanks very much indeed Sid, that’s very kind of you to say and I’m glad you’re enjoying the content!
Definitely noted on the intro - apologies for any discomfort haha. It may to some degree be one set of headphones vs another (as I don’t find the change in sound levels to be all that noticeable on my end), but I’ll certainly look into it. I was probably going to look into getting a more professional intro made, if and when the channel hits 10k subscribers, so I’ll address the issue when I come to change the intro.
Thanks very much once again and all the best to you! : )
Do you use full prop for cruise?
Good question and one I wasn’t able to figure out the answer to myself. I used full rpm for this flight. I couldn’t find any references to cruise power settings in the manual, but I noticed a little green marker on the rpm gauge, so it looked to me like that’s the standard operating range. If memory serves me correctly, the prop only does 2000fpm at the full setting anyway, which seemed reasonable for the cruise.
I’d like to know whether that’s the correct procedure or not, but haven’t had a chance to look into it myself yet.
Let me know, if you know otherwise. All the best : )
Is there any pitot heat switch button in this aircraft ? 🧐 I couldn’t find any ! Thank you.
Hi Cali,
To be honest, it’s a long time since I’ve had a chance to fly the Porter, so don’t 100% recall, but the manual states “ref only” regarding the pitot heat, so that suggests to me that it isn’t modelled (I can’t think why it wouldn’t be though). In short, I’m not sure haha.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it's ok , thank you anyway, I didn't find any pitot heat switch anywhere ! I fly only in VR ! 😁
You’re welcome! Happy flying and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hi there , I’ve just spoken recently with a real Pilatus Porter pilot on CZcams and he told me every Pilotus Porter have pitot switches on board. ! 😄
Haha! That’s such a weird choice by MILVIZ then. . . Cheers for the info, much appreciated! : )
I have problems with the Autopilot in all MSFS2020 aircraft, including add-ons so I think it may be the sim. It is hit and miss but there are more 'misses' than 'hits'. It is very annoying, of course.
It’s definitely the sim MegaPeedee. Almost every addon aircraft (even the CRJ for example) uses the Asobo framework for its autopilot. That’s unfortunate, as frankly the default autopilot simply isn’t very good. I’ve had very hit and miss results between updates, but this was one of the worst examples I’ve seen of it in action so far - usually the basic modes have worked okay-ish for me previously. I haven’t flown much with the autopilot of late though, so I’m not sure whether whether it’s generally broken at the moment, or doesn’t play nicely with the Porter in particular. As you say, it’s very annoying. Still waiting on Asobo to do something about it. . .
All the best : )
How is FS2020 these days? I have a midrange PC, downloaded the game on day 1 but the lag made it unplayable. I tried it again a few months later and it wasn't much better. Any major performance improvements? Even DCS which isn't exactly well optimized runs well enough on my computer, but FS just killed it.
Hi Zevin,
Overall the sim has “improved” quite a bit in terms of performance. I say “improved” though, as to me it seems to go through cycles of good and bad. Sim Update 5 definitely provided an increase in framerate and overall the sim is smoother; I feel like there was a graphical degradation to achieve this though. If you weren’t happy with the performance before, I don’t think you’ll be blown away with the sim as it stands; of course it’s hard to say though, with so many variations in hardware etc. This video may give you a little more idea as to the the improvements;
czcams.com/video/jsz273o0tlg/video.html
Cheers, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you very much for the reply. Watching the video in the link was very helpful, the frame rate increase is actually pretty substantial. The sim for me was right on the edge of playable before with frame rate dips down into the high teens or 20s, with peaks in the 30s or low 40s this might just be enough of a boost to make it stable and smooth enough to be enjoyable!
Very excited to give it another shot. I'm a pilot myself, who had to give up my career in real life because of medical problems. Being able to potentially enjoy Flight sim 2020 with its very impressive graphics is very exciting.
My pleasure! I hope you got the sim up and running more to your liking now?
Very sorry to hear about the medical; I’m pleased that MSFS potentially gets you “back up in the air” in some form or another though. I’ve been an avid flight simmer nearly my whole life and find it still ticks many of the boxes for me in terms of enjoyment, when compared with the real thing.
All the best : )
can you tell me about the music you plated during the flight
Sure thing. You can find it here : )
www.bensound.com/royalty-free-music/track/little-planet
My doors will not open, and th cargo door will not open, is there a secret to it? I unlatch the door on the door and nothing happens, I then pull the red lever down in front of the doors and nothing happens, and my cargo door is never open before the flight or afterward. I found out how to jettison the doors but not just push them open, and still do not see how o open the back cargo doors or do the cargo drop. I love the plane and am getting good with it other than the cargo doors, lol. Thank you for any help.
Hi Aaron, sorry for the slow reply.
You may have already figured it out by now; to open the doors pull the black and yellow lever (if memory serves me correctly) on the side of the door up - that unlocks the door. There is then a clickspot towards the back of the door frame that you need click on, in order to actually open the door. For the cargo door, you simply need to click on the handle internally, but it can be tricky to see without moving the camera.
Hope that helps! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you, I will try it. When I try to open the cabin doors they just move about a quarter of an inch thus far, and IU will move my camera view around to find the cargo door latch.
Hmm that’s very strange (that they’re only opening a fraction). I’m afraid I have no idea what could be causing that, sorry. As I say, I just clicked on the handle of the rear cargo door and all worked fine. I hope you manage to get it figured out.
All the best : )
Flaps switch is there.
Yes Jay. That was a poor choice of words on my part; I meant that it doesn’t appear to be animated.
All the best : )
Which VR goggles were used for this production?
Hi David,
It wasn’t actually VR that I was using in this video, but TrackIR. It’s basically a head-mounted device, that tracks one’s head movements and then translates it into the sim. A neat (if a bit pricey) little decide overall.
Hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Great. I used VR goggles and TRackir a few years ago. I was planning to give Trackir another go, U made up my mind 4 me. Thanks,
My pleasure David. TrackIR does take some getting used to, but I’d struggle without it now. If and when you do get back into it; feel free to drop me an email to intotheblueinbox@gmail.com and I’ll happily send you over my TrackIR profile - it makes a big difference.
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I will, Thanks again
I just bought this airplane but I do?'t see in the manual what the take off speed is, how to adjust the cruise power settings etc. Where can I find that ?
Hi Jvu,
You’re correct, the manual is a bit scant on detail in this regard. To be fair to MILVIZ, the real-world pilot operating handbook for the PC-6 is pretty vague as well (bizarrely):
www.pilatus-aircraft.com/data/tech_pub/PC-6%20PIM%2001820%20R08.pdf
I had a look through, but couldn’t find much info regarding either of your questions I’m afraid. There may be some more info kicking around on various forums etc. Sorry I can’t be of more help. . .
All the best! : )
Thanks for the review....Did you find witch key to bind for the flaps (i´ve tried all and no action engage on flaps, except with the mouse on the dashboard)? Can you tell me witch one you use ..Thank you.
My pleasure!
I just used my hardware to actuate the flaps, as in any other aircraft. I have the “increase flaps” / “decrease flaps” commands assigned and that seems to do the trick. Hope that helps?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you.
My pleasure!
I'll wait for the PC6 from FSG. It is a bit a rush out from MilViz to be the first.
To avoid overspeeding during "deep Beta dive" MilViz for example uses spoilers as a trick - the flight model itself is not adapted for this maneuvre. FSG will have their own flightmodel for that. Same for the PT6 - own model developed, independet from the turbologic from Asobo.
From start you will have steam gauges (I prefer them over glass), integration of GTN750 and amphibious version with working water rudders.
Otherwise - nice video. Thanks
Of course! I’m not trying to sell anything to anyone, just showcasing the product for what it is. The FSG version sounds very promising as well then.
Glad you enjoyed the video all the same. Thanks very much and all the best! : )
Can anyone tell me where to find the tablet in the skydiver version?
Hi, do you change propeller pitch during cruise? I know that max rpms are 2000 but i can’t find if i should lower them in cruise. Thanks for answer.
Good question Jenda, I’m afraid I’m not sure on that one myself haha. MILVIZ’s manual doesn’t seem to suggest any particular cruise power setting and even the real-world PC-6 POH doesn’t recommend anything, so far as I can tell. It’s a bit of a mystery. . .
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
I'm really on the fence about this one. On the one hand it's MilViz and from your vid it looks really impressive but on the other hand there's another PC-6 in development and from the forum thread on that where the dev has shown off a ton of in development screenshots and videos it looks like it could be really good as well and I don't really want to fork out for two PC-6s... I'm also not a fan at all of G1000 avionics, I vastly prefer some old fashioned gauges. I know MilViz have said they'll add a variant with gauges in stage 2 of the release but then I'm left wondering why they decided to go for this 2 stage release schedule. Smells a lot to me like they want to get it out before the FlightSimGames version is released and so this release version is a little bit on the early access side which is a practice I'm not too keen on. Also the DRM is quite off-putting to me. From what I've read it installs the DRM as a Windows Service that runs constantly in the background and I think that's way too over the top. Buuut it also really does look quite damned good. So yeah, what's a boy to do? lol.
Anyway my bitching aside your review was really good as always. Loved the landing, reminds me of some of those insane bush strips in Papua New Guinea. That top hump was really quite something! The Porter really is quite an ugly duckling, the older version with the regular piston engine does look a bit nicer but I guess that PT-6 long nose gives it some character. Well it's a nose only a mother could love I guess. Thanks again and cheers!
Well I ended up buying it. Bought that Aerosoft Antarctica Rothera station scenery pack and really wanted something appropriate for it. God knows how long it'll take Aerosoft to release their Twotter and as the British Antarctic Survey used to fly PC6s anyway I decided to bite the bullet and get it. I'm really quite enjoying it, it's a really nice plane. Still a bit miffed about the DRM situation though. Not minding the G1000 displays as much as I thought I would but I can't wait for the steam gauge patch! I'm finding it a bit tricky to get into the beta prop thingy. Sometimes it does it and other times I just end up over-speeding. Oh well practice makes perfect. Anyway a really great plane with a lot of character. Your glowing review also helped convince me so cheers!
Phewww, nearly there! : P
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying the PC-6! Overall I think it's another great MILVIZ offering. I agree that the DRM situation is rather extreme (I hate it when the legitimate customers are "punished" for someone else's wrongdoing), but I gather MILVIZ are considering easing back on that one possibly. We'll have to wait and see. . . I read somewhere that the Corsair was illegally downloaded over 200,000! times (by MILVIZ's estimates) so I guess you can't blame them for trying to do something about it.
Funnily enough, it was between Indonesia or Antarctica for this video. Wasn't sure about the Aerosoft scenery though, so I just went with the easier (free) option. What do you make of the AS Antarctica scenery? I'll probably still pick it up at some point, a fun part of the world to be flying around in for sure (I'm just not a fan of the scenery being "modular" in nature).
I hear the Twotter might now be aimed at the more "casual" crowd (only rumors I've been hearing - it will be a shame if true though), so you may well have made the right choice! Like you, the G1000 didn't bother me as much as I thought it would and yes, the piston Porter is a much prettier beast haha.
Okay, I think we're all square again now! ; )
Thanks very much as always for watching and supporting the channel Megadyptes! It's very much appreciated.
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations MilViz are removing the windows service part of the DRM for the next patch. You can already download it from their support forums. You have to manually uninstall the 'WASM Service Helper' though but that's easy enough. I'm quite pleased they removed it!
Only had a few flights around AS's Antarctica and I think it's a bit of a mixed bag. The main airport itself is quite well modelled and who doesn't love waddling penguins? But everything outside of the airport is basically just a bonus and not so great. They have touched up the scenery a bit around the airfield I think but it's still quite rough looking and can look a bit FSXy in places which I guess is due to the lack of decent aerial photography in Bing for the region. Also you can't really use live weather as the sim will make the surrounding bay all iced up when in reality it's an ice free port during the warmer part of the year (which is why the base is there in the first place), so unless you set custom weather presets you'll have iceburgs and the ship floating around in a huge block of ice which doesn't look great! There's some POIs located around which make for interesting flights I guess and I've not yet flown down to the two smaller strips they've also included. So yeah a bit of a mixed bag really, maybe wait for a sale or something I suppose. Although saying that the couple of flights I have done were quite interesting. Some epic terrain down that way.
There all caught up with your replies! Although now I see you've just uploaded a Ju 52 video lol. Guess I'll try to keep up but knowing me I'll build up a new backlog soon enough and subject you to yet another broadside of comments.
Cheers!
Thanks for this. Well done as usual with your reviews.
My stupidity did show up yesterday during my cockpit familiarization when I could not figure out how to open any of the doors. Moving the striped handle had no effect. If anyone would tell me how to perform that activity, I would appreciate it.
The striped handle is just the lock, the handle that opens and closes the door is the bit of metal a few inches up the back of the window that sticks out into the window.
@@ceegnz Thanks so much. Following the review, I went back into the aircraft and found the "hidden" area you mentioned and got the doors to open. While there, I also discovered how to jettison the doors and then put them back using the tablet option. Thanks again!
@@Topcat1952 Yes I found that out too. I can't say I meant to, and if I hadn't heard a video mention 'this is how you put the doors back on' I'd have been taken even more by surprise than I was ... :) i really like this plane !
Bingo! Thanks for helping / proving the info ceegnz, much appreciated : )
Haha, having inadvertently jettisoned the doors myself (and not realising I could use the tablet to reattach them); “hmmm, well that’s inconvenient. . .”
Is it compatible with the Nxi
Not yet I’m afraid Marcus. MILVIZ plans to make the aircraft compatible with the next stable version of the NXi mod apparently.
All the best : )
Doesn’t make sense that there is so much weathering as if the plane has been flying since the 60s yet it comes with G1000s.
Yeah, newer PC-6 come with G1000, but milviz has to choose do they want an old plane with steam gauges or a new plane with G1000s.
Many old planes get updated.
Glass is never my preferred option, but the aircraft will be updated with the option for steam gauges at a later date apparently. I figure either it’s been “retrofitted”, or it’s a newer PC-6 that’s just been flown hard.
All the best : )
Very true Kengou. I guess MILVIZ retrofitted theirs haha.
Cheers! : )
@@kengou true, but old aircraft that get updated have usually been well maintained thru the years and get some restauration at some point. Plus it's usually less expansive something in the range of a GNS 430 or 530. The plane from milviz looks more like it was maintained just to keep it air worthy and for some reason got some G1000 upgrade.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the answer, I didn't know that it will get upgraded with steam gauges at a later date. I might buy it then, because their PC-6s for other simulator already have steam gauges, my guess was that they chose the easy way by using MSFS's G1000. Now I'm reassured that it will get proper flight instrument in the future.
After seeing how the dev has treated paying customers who can't download this due to DRM, and on other matters. I'm so glad didn't go for this.
I'd rather wait for the FSG one and support an ethical, nice developer
I have to agree with you. Why should paying customers be penalised for other’s wrong doing? I’ll wait for the FSG PC-6.
@@Snowy57 exactly. Plus I just can't look past how obnoxious and disrespect the dev was to payed (or didnt given ignored) customers raising valid questions about their data and not being able to install due to the DRM. I may have considered the Marketplace with its 10 week waits but I won't support someone who shows such unjustified disrespect to people who simply had a concern/disagreed.
@@daradicalcavy5235 I saw that. What an eye opener! I have been put off MilViz completely now because of that. I look forward to getting my PC-6 from FSG.
What's the issue with DRM?
Can you point me to that interaction? Was it on a forum, or Facebook?
This singing is disturbing
In a harrowing way, or an annoying way haha?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations creepy way. i mean my family and friends are from all over the world, I don't think everything should be western trust me. I am not one of those ignorant Americans!
but for some reason, the singing just disturbs me lol
nice video though. it makes me want to get back into MFS in a bad way!
I don't know if my pc can run it.
what is a good video card for the latest MFS?
Hahaha, well I hope it wasn’t too disturbing - I only provide flight sim content and not therapy I’m afraid ; )
Glad you enjoyed the video though haha.
Hmm, that’s a tricky question to answer. I run a 2080 at the moment and that’s fine. I’ve also had the sim running on a 1070 and that was a reasonable experience as well. I’m not quite sure how much lower down the ladder one could go though I’m afraid. Overall I believe the sim runs ok on lower end machinery, but of course graphics will have to be adjusted accordingly. Sorry, I can’t really offer anything more specific than that. . .
Cheers again, all the best! : )
That is the ugliest aircraft I’ve ever seen.
Haha, well I’ve seen worse; but it’s got to be up there for sure XD