The War on Bird Scooters
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guys WATCH the video before you give your take on it. the amount of comments i see that are uninformed on info/opinions that are stated in the video are way too high
Shut up
Shut the f*ck up dude
@Eddy Burback I've been watching your stuff for like a year, and although I always love your stuff this was a personal fav. I'd love to see more videos like this that discuss intersections between social media (like the burning accounts) and public policy, old media, etc. I think you're really well positioned to talk about that stuff and I love that you kept the nuance and didn't commit to one viewpoint. Keep up the good work my guy!
I am a Bird naysayer, they dropped a bunch in my city unregulated. I was worried when I started the video, but i agree with your conclusion. Now I would like to see a picture of you a a cute Turd Helmet.
Also, the rent is too damn high.
Regulators are scrambling to deal with The Boys.
John
@@johnjohn7261 lasagna
Can’t regulate da Boys
Hi bby
Love you 😘
How am i supposed to enjoy a scoot with the boys and feel the wind in my hair if I'm wearing a helmet though?
Sven Johnson hairmet: a hairy helmet
To be fair, not even cyclists wear a helmet. Another problem is that "bike lanes" are right next to moving traffic which is why there are virtually no cyclists actively riding in LA. It's just not safe. So by forcing everyone to ride in the unsafe bike lane, you're reducing the green commuters. The city needs to start implementing safer/separated bike lanes for greener commuting.
Don’t you also appear in Gus Johnson’s videos
@@dohnuts7637 bro thats his husband didnt you notice they have the same last name
the moth vid proves that you're very much accustomed to wearing helmets in dangerous situations
I can't believe they put copyright on the sound of a leafblower. smh
You're kidding right?
@@noblepossum2991 the joke
Your head
@Esther Abe whooooosh
@@noblepossum2991 the joke is that the most used reason for excluding audio is copyrighted music, but he removed the audio because of the leaf blower.
@@marcogonzales7070 Or maybe because leaf blowers are loud and the wall of sound ruined the clip. Just don't jump to conclusions man.
"Whats more important, your safety or my fun?" Oh Eddie, if only you could've seen how much this question would piss you off just 1 year later.
aaahahahahaha omg i hadn't thought about that particular parallel but that's hilarious
Wait I don’t get it can you explain
Sorry I know I’m a little late to the party
@@rowcookie3925 in the video he something like that and then the next year Covid happened.
@@KratosNotKratos Damn that was fast but ty I get it now
I’m one of those “boys” hehe 😜
that’s exactly what one of my boys would say 🙈😜🇺🇸💦💥
can i be part of the "boys"?
what does your poop smell like
@@bonerpoop3160 what the fuck hahaha
NakeyJakey please post, we miss you, you hot boy 🤘🏻🍑💓
dont care what anyone says catch me flexing on the local preteen hooligans with my eco-friendly bitchmobile
Bennett M gonna go purchase my own personal eco-friendly bichmobile just from seeing this comment
*eco-friendly bitchmobile*
blake hebert the greatest set of words I've ever seen.
nothin eco-friendly about dropping a metric fuck-ton of lithium on the streets bc its more convenient than walking
SirHouseFly it is eco friendly because in the long term making that litium has less emission than a car plus it's emissions. Not to mention the advancements being made in battery and renewable energy technogy. We're quickly moving away from lithium with things like graphine. Also electricity created through wave , wind, water, and solar is far cleaner than refining gasoline from oil. It's actually hilarious that people still have the mindset you have. We have to move toward cleaner energy and transportation or we will face harsher consequences than we already are facing. We have less than 20 years to make massive changes and seeing how we refuse to accept reality and even regress in countries like the U.S. makes it seem like we aren't going to make those changes and will probably end up facing similar ecological disasters that we've read about in history books. It needs to stop where we only think about ourselves and right now, we need to think about the future and the people who live in that future.
if anyone asks me why there's a gap in my resume from when i was in jail, definitely going to say i was innovating on the legislative side
They seem convenient and eco-friendly but also kind of littering. Leaving them in the middle of the street could be really bad for the blind or wheelchair users.
Especially with how clearly nobody is watching out for pedestrians. I’m terrified for all the people getting knock over who’ll break something.
They aren't really eco-frindly.
1. They have to be picked up at nigth to load their battery usually by a car and often underpaid workers.
2. Most of the electricity used for loading those batterys is not from renewable Energy.
3. The Batterys at some stop working and then the whole Scooter is thrown away because it is cheaper to produce a new one than to build on were you could exchange the battery.
If you want to be eco friendo y, get a bycicle
This is true, they’re basically litter, the process for manufacturing them must be super resource intensive then they do probably just throw them away when they break or the battery dies
Yeah, it's pretty bold of Eddy to assume that the same people who dump the scooters on city sidewalks without regard to whether they block sidewalks/ramps will be responsible enough to dispose of the scooters responsibly at the end of their usefulness.
Walks into bank
“I love innovating with the law”
Pulls out gun
“time to innovate with the law”
*shoots hostage*
"Lets innovate two more laws"
runs a red light and evades the cops
“time to innovate with the geneva convention”
*launches atom bomb*
"Time to innovate the world"
Reforms the USSR and axis Germany resurrects Stalin and hitler combines both and takes over the world
Well if I put my lawyer hat on, I guess thats still illegal
My favorite thing is finding bird scooters abandoned in woodsy areas like a cryptid
Across the street from my house there was like a lime bike graveyard because there were always a bunch of abandoned lime bikes but like half of them would be partially disassembled with like no wheels or no handlebars. And I’d also see ones that were clearly at one point lime bikes but they had taken parts of them off and painted over or scratched out the logo. So I think there was some weird scheme going on where people would sell or scrap the parts for money or try resell them and that’s just really funny to me.
yeah, i dont see why someone wouldnt just steal an electric scooter for the battery
@@linseyspolidoro5122 I mean that makes sense, they’re loose, unregulated electric scooters for anyone to steal 😂
theres a lime bike out on a buoy in north seattle
My local train station was out of the trial area when they came to our city. Someone took it on the train and when they got to the station realised it didn't work and left it. It sat on the end of the platform for a week
"why these scooters can be very bad"
well first of all it's a scooter with your credit card information
All the stores you go to, every time you buy something online, if you use a soda machine or even Uber, it’s all the same, they have the same amount of info as anyone else you buy from regularly
@@elliejelly8815 who uses their credit card for a soda machine?
@@mariahcarr9140 Anecdotal evidence is one of the dumbest ways to try and disprove someone else's point, at least when you use it like this. I have never in my life seen a vending machine that scans credit cards. I just immediately disproved your point, because your words mean no more than mine. This is especially true when you two are clearly not from the same region as me, as here we call it POP like TRUE PATRIOTS
@@coltonbates629 yeah I’m gonna have to side with you on this, I don’t remember the last time I used a soda machine, I should have used a better example than soda machines
Lmai
You can't say "it's a company's property" when they deliberately abandoned it on public property.
Yeah exactly. It’s basically trash lol. Burning it is deffo bad for the environment, but if they’re trashing the things safely, who cares. It’s literally unregulated. If I went out and put a scooter on every street corner, and then tried to sue when people messed with them, I’m pretty sure most lawyers would just go “I mean what did you expect to happen?”
Regulations are there for a reason.
it still is since they made it and the people riding havent bought it and are just borrowing it
@@imanoob3004 with that logic, all the garbage I deliberately threw out that is now in a landfill and still my property, along with all the other garbage being other people's property.
@Elite Gaming Public property isn't everyone's free storage space.
But they are making money off of it
> wants to stay anonymous
> camera proceeds to show very identifiable leg tattoos
LOL
not if he gets a bunch of people to get the same leg tattoos and exclaim I am Spartacus, works everytime
We need some reddit sleuths
@@Sum1BetrThanU1 *4chan sleuths
Last time Reddit try to be sleuths, they got a some poor sap killed by terrorists
Fake Name if we’re both thinking of the same guy, he actually committed suicide before being accused of being responsible for the Boston Bombing
"brah don't show my face, show my baller tatts though"
Great video Edward
Drew Gooden is... one of the scooting Burback boys?
ha ha drew Gooden said “great video edward” & ha 8=========> ---------
Drew gooden scoots with the bois heard
Hey drew. You're pretty okay man.
where’s the collab??
The fact that that guy went "excuse me, excuse me" because he expecred the pedestrians to get out of his way... What a psycho
this is such an issue currently in italy for blind people especially, because they’re designed in such a way that their walking sticks can’t sense them. blind people trip over them constantly on the sidewalk, because people just dump them after reaching their destination. it’s terrible.
A homeless man in my neighborhood in DTLA rigged a bird to push his shopping cart. It's so beautiful.
That's amazing. He's a true innovator. Seriously, though haha
holy shit
Thank you for this comment
P-photo? 🥺🙏💕
praise a guy who stole a shopping cart and a scooter. Will you praise this guy when he steals your bike?
You can't outlaw people being dumb, but you can ticket people using them incorrectly. bicycle riders break all these same laws.
What you can do is educate people so they won’t make dumb decisions.. But it’s America.. so of course you’re not going to do that! “Education?? Pffff!”
@@KarryKarryKarry oh it's easy you just educate dumb people, EASY
catdogpigduck yes please ticket me daddy government
Ty Helms daddy government?
catdogpigduck yup
5:23 lol "innovating on the regulatory side"
I'm glad the journalist called him out on that immediately
when I was in Marseilles my friend and I rode Lime scooters and locals resorted to cutting brake lines on some scooters and I didnt realize this on my first ride so I wiped out going 30mph on a hill with no guard rails to a 40' drop to the ocean. even with a helmet I would've died pretty horribly but got away with a ruined pair of jeans.
Jesus christ. That is fucked up
@@missbraindamage indeed. That is f*cked up
Why would you destroy them like that. I understand destroying them, but rip them in half, don't cut the brake line so that some poor person gets f****** killed.
Brody smith I totally agree. There’s a difference between getting frustrated and stopping people from using it and attempted murder Jesus.
Omg, reading this gave me fuckin chills. I'm so glad you're okay!
The scooters just amplify the problems that Cyclists have been dealing with for years.
Sidewalks are off limits, but the roadways are usually not safe either.
Big Al roads really can be safe you just have to know how to ride
@@alfredo42o idk in my experience even if you know the rules, you can't assume drivers do. I get almost run over by drivers who aren't paying attention on a daily basis. Drivers have no regard for cyclists it's absurd
Rosalie Milton In my own experience from riding on the street and sidewalk, the only real thing to worry about is the crosswalks. I couldn’t imagine a situation where going in a straight line down the road would be a problem, and if it is then I feel bad for you. Crosswalks and stoplights are the most common places for accidents to happen, for cars or bikes. I always watch before I cross even if it’s green. That being said, If your roads aren’t setup for biking thats unfortunate and definitely changes things.
@@alfredo42o believe me buddy it's a problem. It's not as easy as "follow the road rules" because following road rules often almost gets you ran over because drivers just don't look out for bikers.
trystanallen2 I would really like to see the statistics for bike related accidents in your area, it seems to be a real problem. How often do bikers get hit? How densely populated is your area? A lot of factors go into bicycle safety, the main one being how many people are driving. In my area (Bloomington, Indiana) bike accidents are fairly low, we have a bike/walking path going diagonally through most of downtown as well as a bike lane in almost every road. I can imagine in a city without these it would be very dangerous, especially if you ride slow
This isn’t the Birdemic I was expecting
James Nguyen lied to me.
Should have expected a batdemic.
Don’t ever bring up that movie. The birds are terrifying
My city up in Canada has some positive things to say about Lime scooters.
They have talked a lot about "the last kilometer problem". This is a major reason why people do not use public transit; it just leaves people too far from their work (or wherever they need to go). A cheap ride on a scooter could make it a lot easier to be environmentally friendly by using public transit.
thats what i want to use them for, but i think the scooters in my area have a radius of range and stop working once take them into a different city :(
I go to OSU, and a big issue with them here is people getting on them when they’re drunk. Also, with people leaving them in the middle of the sidewalk they become hazardous to people who have a disability.
I had never heard of these before so when I saw the notification I just thought you really hated birds riding scooters
Sydney Maranda I have a crippling addiction to pornography
Skor Skoert yes!
@@ButtermilkCS thats unfortunate, better luck next time
ME TOO LMAO
As a wheelchair user these are a nightmare because people leave them in the middle of the sidewalk, forcing us to either go into the street to go around, ask a passerby to move it, or simply turn around (we have places to be too!)
I've seen guid dogs really struggling, they stop and don't really know how to get their owner around them
TBF I feel the same way about people in wheelchairs
@@Phafanapolis i can only hope 😌
i came here to say this, as someone who uses a cane... they are impossible to move when out of service too. i wish they'd go away.
I wad just leaving a comment about that. They are a danger
I like to think back to a year ago when this was all we had to worry about
Interesting you didn't mention the being dumped element much esp as one of the early video clips showed it. If these bikes were put in organised legit places and not just dumped everywhere they would be much more accepted. Nice to see these are things that happen wherever in the world you are
1:12
yeah cant have UMG copyright claiming the leafblower sound (they would do it)
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Eddy “With the Boys” Burback
4:33 The awkward crossing of the dudes arms like he doesn’t know what to do with them is... well awkward. He tries to look professional and cool but just falls flat.
One guy wanted to buy a scooter I rented and I had to spend 20 minutes explaining to him what bird was
"It's a rental."
should have just sold it to him
Dumb. Should've sold it to him
next time sell him a bridge too
It pisses me off that so many people don’t realize that a red light/stop sign applies to the bike lane as well. I’ve seen so many douchey cyclists run red lights, some nearly causing accidents
A stop sign actually does not apply to bikes in my state
At the *very* least, use the Idaho stop! Where, for bikes, red light = stop sign, and stop sign = yield
@@xcalium9346 fuck you too. Im a bike messenger
Not every state requires bikes to stop at lights or signs
@@deadfrombluntguts5008 I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the dumbasses. Where I live half the bikers fucking swerve out of the bike lane and into the road. There was one who was going in the opposite direction to the flow of traffic and was in the road.
Can we. Please can we have more bike lanes. Just in general.
Yes.
More car lanes.
More bike lanes especially more _protected_ bike lanes.
We have bike lanes in my city, but the problem is that people just don't stop at stop lights.
IKR sometimes they just end randomly, sometimes people drive in them, and sometimes they’re not there.
Me just vibing in my suburban Southern town: “huh, cool”
"What's more important, Safety or Fun?" Damn this video really is from 2019
You know ethics are out the window when someone named “Turd Guy” is the hero in the situation
FUCK YEAH DUDDEEE!!!
"He wants to remain anonymous, so we focused the camera on his distinctive leg tattoo."
Meanwhile, there a 20+ gas-guzzling pickup trucks rounding these things up a night to charge them. The "environmentally friendly" argument is bust when you actually take all factors into consideration. The best thing to do would be to purchase your own scooter of higher quality, and store/charge it in your own house.
IMO the scooters themselves are great, and I wouldn't put off the idea of getting one myself, but these rental companies absolutely needs to go, and they should've gone long ago. As you mention they entirely defeat the purpose of it being environmentally friendly when multiple people have to drive around each day to collect them and charge them, on top of the fact that they're never used to replace a car ride, they're used to skip a walk. But also just.. They're annoying when they're everywhere. I live in an older European city with sometimes narrow sidewalks right up against the buildings, and I can't walk anywhere without having to either move one of those pieces of shit out of the way or walk out on the street / bike lane to get around, and, I gotta be honest, I sometimes just throw them into the nearest bush if I'm in a bad mood. I can't imagine how bad it must be to be wheelchair bound with the rental scooters around.
Me: yeah one time I got hit by a bird and it broke my neck
My friend: what type of bird was that
Me: a metal one
The only bird I like is a Well Dressed one
yes!!
@@zop4069 How dare you quote that evil man. Well Dressed bird is the best.
As someone in a country that doesn't have this service, I find the idea of heaps of people zooming around the city on scooters really fkn funny
yeah I'm in the US but i didnt know that this was an issue omg lol
I live in a smaller city in America and have never seen this. I think that it’s only in the larger places.
@@arifaith8588 I live in NYC and didnt know electric scooters were a thing until I went to DC. I tried them and they were so much fun. They wouldn't work here though. Way too many people on the sidewalks and the drivers and cyclists are absolutely insane when it comes to obeying traffic laws
Scifi Poet same
@@shadypalmtree2989 I also live in NYC and was so hyped to try the Lime and Bird scooters out in San Antonio, Texas when I visited this past month. It seemed pretty efficient there, even though the crosswalks were completely congested with people. I didn't crash into any one and people even tended to move out of the way for me, like they would if I were walking or riding a bike. I'm not going to say that because it worked in SA that it will work here (there's no place quite like NYC and our ill-tempered people), but I won't object to the city wanting to deploy a handful of these around the boroughs and trying it out. Perhaps closer to the Central Park area and wherever there are Citibike stations.
When I went to Denmark I rode Lime scooters all the time. Sometimes I found some scooters that had the QR code covered with spray paint so that you couldn't use them.
I watched this video forever ago when it first came out and was very anti-scooter myself with all the safety troubles, but recently I got the chance to ride one myself with my friends in San Antonio and wow do I understand the desire to scoot with the boys, it was a blast. As long as you’re safe, I think it’s all good.
*Creator of Bird Graveyard wants to remain anonymous by hiding his face*
*Creator of Bird Graveyard also shows his unique, easily identifiable tattoos on television*
Honestly didn't expect anything, but I'm still disappointed by his stupidity
that's like pornstars who won't show their face but have no problem showing their tattoos...
No...Nobody's focusing on a pornstar's tattoos.
Tattoos are a lot less identifying than a straight up face, people don't just randomly inspect the tattoos and then start comparing every single person they come across. A face is much easier to identify
@@martijnp true but the guys point is that if you wanna stay anonymous don't show your fucking leg tats lmao. Might be less identifying but they even said what area this dudes from.
Important note: The brakes on the scooters are very weak, compared to bicycles (rim or discs). So it's incredibly difficult to stop and slow down.
I almost ran over a dog because of that and had to deal with to middle aged woman shouting at me
Some do in fact have disk brake I own one and at 15 mph if you pulled the brake you might go flying over the handlebars
Just use your feet, they're an inch off the ground
Spin scooters stop pretty fast tho
This is so untrue, as someone who rents Spin, Lime, and Bird scooters all the time. 😂
4:03 I love how the range for the go bike is "until you drop"
Facebook: We've been innovating on regulations before it was cool.
I don't think anyone loves anything as much as Ed loves his boys
relationship goals: get you a man who talks about you the way Eddy talks about The Boys
when people throw bird scooters off buildings, they're making birds fly
Boooooo!
this comment is for the birds...... Kappa
Bird up
Pugduddly trying to anyways
my city got lime scooters last year but were removed a few months later because people kept throwing them off of buildings and into the canal
what was that one guy that hit the girl (when it was a red light for him) thinking he was gonna do when he was about to drive into traffic?? there were like three cars turning at the point where if he hadn’t looked back to see if she was ok, he would’ve crashed... people are idiots.
The CEO of Bird doesn’t know what to do with his hands.
"Uh your honor, I was just innovating on the regulatory side of consent law."
I hate to be that person but there should be a period after uh. I know it’s stupid but it’s sounds better when saying it out loud
Taylor Salim you mean a comma? Just a period would make it sound like a grunt.
Taylor Salim no one cares
@@taylorsalim2004 if you hate to be that person, don't be that person.
Cereal Owl but someone had to be
Okay I know this video is 2 years old, but we started getting these in the UK last year and I think they've actually learned from these issues lmao. It's still a government piloted scheme here with companies like Beryl, and they're super restricted!! All the scooters in my city are limited to 10mph in the centre of the city and by the beachside they're able to go to 15mph by gps, people also get fined pretty regularly for not wearing helmets or doubling up on scooters 😂
bro i know a person whos dog was hit by one of these, broke on of its legs.
these scooters definitely need regulation
I 100% support destroying Bird scooters. In my hometown they're ridden exclusively by insufferable frat boy douchebags and I am fully on the side of anyone who pulls up next to them and smacks them off the road with their car door.
"I have only two options if I don't have a car, use a car or use a car"
Eddie have you never heard of bicycles
Or just, you know, walking.
@@r.p.4756 walking a couple miles is not good if you have a schedule or in the hot sun
@@r.p.4756 Yall ever tried walking farther than a block while carrying a couple bags of groceries? I've had to and it sucks hella ass. I thought my arms would snap off.
@@emilyb.8219 yeah I do that about 3 times a week. it does kinda suck I guess
@@r.p.4756 dude do 1 big trip wtf is wrong with you.
It’s fun to watch full-grown adults pushover scooters like their a kid thinking they’re picking a fight with a biker gang
12:26
I have a vivid image of a mother yeeting her baby into the sky to try and knock down a seagull
“he wants to stay anonymous”
*shows his tattoos*
Wow, I was really ill-informed on the logistics of scooters in urban areas. This was genuinely informative and not something I would expected to ever have knowledge of. Thanks.
I usually hate that shirt on people but it looks mighty fine on Eddy.
Amen
I was in SF when these were rolled out and it was handled terribly. I live next to Dolores park which is a hotspot for young hipsters getting high and goofing around and these things were all over. Every morning I would see the vans plop a bunch of them on every corner and throughout the day they would get scattered all over the sidewalks completely blocking the relatively wide sidewalks. With the rent-a-bikes at least they were contained into their ports but the model of scattering them all over the sidewalks and blocking traffic is just horrible.
My city has been trying to go off this idea of bus stops being too far for many people to walk (especially in our harsh Canadian winters) with pretty good ideas. They have bike lockers, literal metal boxes, alongside simple bike stands to lock them up so you can bike a shorter distance and then catch the bus. Likewise, they've made a lot of bus routes shorter so that, even if you have to make more transfers, it makes public transit faster, more reliable, and generally more accessible. With smaller routes within neighborhood bringing people to the bigger routes is similar to the way you could scooter to a bus stop and catch it the rest of the way.
That being said, I live downtown and haven't been able to see how helpful this is.
These scooters literally showed up just a couple of weeks a go here in Oslo too !
When Uber came to Norway, taxi-services without permits was already illegal, so Uber kinda existed but was illegal for a while. And police really slammed down on it too. Which was hilarious cause it meant that if you were taking an uber to a nightclub or something, you had to pretend to be sweet friends with the uber driver so if police saw you they'd think you knew each other from before. Also it meant that when you were to get out of the car you had to get out and away as fast as possible in case there was a patroling policecar nearby, and the drivers just sped off as fast as they could.
I mean, it was kinda funny for us who just wanted to get to the club for cheap, but it was also really shitty for the drivers who got busted. And even if you werent busted, you had to work with the constant fright that you might, so probably for the better that Uber decided to shut down services in Norway...
Wonder whats gonna happen if we ban the scooters, like you'll be riding down the street then have to throw the scooter in a bush if you see police. Pretend that it wasnt you...
sounds like a really shit way to ban something. what is norway doing? Couldn't they have contacted Uber since it was straight up illegal instead of waiting on them to respond?
I mean if you're gonna be sweet friends with a stranger, its gonna be in Norway.
But you can't ban scooters. They're too flink.
An even bigger problem that gets forgotten is how they affected accessibility. I can’t even begin to tell you the number of times the curb cuts so I can get on the sidewalk with my wheelchair is commonly completely blocked by tons of scooters park there. They also make it really hard to use the sidewalk when I’m in a wheelchair and there’s all these people just zooming around. A lot of people aren’t considerate of this fact
where i live, a few years ago, a company backed by a famous basketball player (lebron james maybe? i’m not sure) dropped off a bunch of electric scooters around the city. the city tracked down all the scooters and impounded them, but the company decided it wasn’t worth paying to get the scooters back, so they sat in an impound lot until a DIFFERENT company made a deal with the city to legally run a scooter rental here using those scooters
I know I’m late but living in a college town, I see people drunk driving on these scooters all the time. It’s so incredibly dangerous for anyone who’s around them around
Then get away from them.
If the scooters dont go faster than the average cyclist I dont see why people couldnt just follow the bike rules. In the Netherlands it would work really well because we have enough bike lanes
Can't speak for California, but where I have lived it seems like most bikers don't even follow the rules and use those lanes. I think there is just a cultural difference that is hard to explain.
Or people can just buy a bicycle, which is free to use and doesn't require a drivers license
@@chrisol0119 yeah, just buy a bike. Why would anyone ever use public transportation instead of just buying a bike?
Why do people use busses either? Just buy a car.
Wow, talk about being out of touch.
@@DriscolDevil
How about you try to explain what makes scooters better than bikes instead? Your response seems a little immature
@@chrisol0119 Because buying a bike is more expensive than renting a scooter. Bikes are "free to ride" but not free to buy, also not everyone has enough space to store one.
They were just released in my city like a few weeks ago, I’m in Canada- what the hell is gonna happen to them when it snows in a month?
They could put them in a box or some shit like a garage that fits a scooter problem solved I win bye bye
J 6footunder those last 6 words you just typed just lowered your iq by 100 points
They’re water proof cuz... yknow... rain exists... everywhere
It's been 5 months. What actually happened?
I’m in Minnesota and once it started to get cold here they all just.. disappeared. I’m guessing they’re in storage until it warms up again but one day they were everywhere and the next day, they were gone
"If you don't like birds, don't use your baby to knock them down." Amazing out of context sentence.
In SLC Utah where I live, these scooters are actually really useful. The sidewalks in SLC are never super crowded, so the scooters pretty much have free reign, but that’s probably just SLC.
'This company is breaking the law so I'm also gonna break the law'
Take that, company!
Well it cancels out, you see.
They seem to have the "two wrongs make a right" mentality
The roads in the US are just really outdated when it comes to... everything really, but honestly especially when it comes to alternative transportation. There's nowhere reasonable for scooters to go. I don't even feel safe riding a bike on the street because of how psycho drivers are, much less a scooter. It's a vicious combo of bad drivers and structure problems.
Riding a bike in TX, other than austin maybe, is almost impossible.
I remember I once borrowed my friends scooter so that I can bring food home and I almost ran over a dog, I didn't realise how terrible the braking is on them, bikes are much safer than these machines.
In the Bethany Beach/ocean city area it is very safe for bikes/scooters since they are rented out for tourists every where
Most towns and cities in my area don't have bike lanes. Even the bigger cities barely have them.
@@genno3714 Honestly even biking in Austin is almost impossible. The roads are cracked and barely maintained, and the bike lanes either don't exist, or are filled with parked cars and trash cans. This whole state is incredibly hostile to anyone not in a car.
I live in a city right near SF, for a long time we had a LOT of lime bikes and scooters around, even the city hall was flooded with them. I didn’t even realize, but right when 2019 started, they vanished. So yeah we definitely hated Bird and Lime. The last Bird scooter I saw was a year ago and it wasn’t even a complete scooter, just the handle bars.
The Region of Waterloo in Canada started using them last summer. It was a government led initiative and there were some hiccups but def a great service. Great first and last mile alternative for multimodal trips.
“what’s better: peoples safety or my fun? i don’t know! let’s dive deeper”
the best
Babies are the first line of defense against Bird scooters
Fascinating.
I'm definitely in the F-Bird camp. One thing that annoys me that wasn't talked about in this video is how these Birds end up just dumped wherever on the sidewalks like garbage when people are done riding.
Its not 11, eddy, it’s actually 1:07 AM, 3 years, 10 months, and 4 days later.
One very important aspect of this thing is how it changes the cityscape for the extreme worse for people who for example are blind or use wheelchairs. These scooters are parked everywhere, like in the middle of a sidewalk, and that could just as well be a concrete wall for someone who can't see what's in the way or isn't physically able to move the scooter out of their path/get around it.
Also, the lifespan of a scooter really is quite low (not counting all the people burning them) so potentially, it's not very environmental friendly. (mashable.com/article/escooter-lifespan-shared-new-models/?europe=true)
I'm disabled and don't have a car, I rely on birds to get me to work :\
I'm blind, and I'm fine with their use as long as they aren't parked in the middle of the pavement.
Sidewalks should be much less cluttered with shit.
i dont know how it is in other cities, but i live in Tacoma which was one of the handful of cities who got the scooters, and i feel like the scooters highly benefit people who are blind/ people who use wheelchairs. Lime and Bird have people called Chargers who charge the scooters everyday and are paid to place the scooters in places that wont get in the way of people walking, and i usually never see a scooter in anyones way, but if i do (very rare), i move it out of the way. Tacoma even did construction on every curb next to the main roads and some backroads into ramps to prevent people on scooters from falling, which is something i feel really benefits the disabled. again, i dont know about every city, but at least mine is trying to take steps in the right direction
@@jade-lp2ck it was a complete mess in dallas, fuck those scooters
These scooters (not the exact brand but similar) popped up in bristol in the UK recently, and idk if u HAVE to but most people ride them in the bicycle lane rather than on the pavement or in the road. That way they dont crash into pedestrians or get in the way of cars I think its a better system
I actually really like these. I went to a smaller college in a pretty small town and it was so fun to go ride around all the time. Not even to get from one place to another. Just fun to go ride around when there was nothing else to do at midnight.
It sucks people have to act like idiots with them and break them, trash stuff, and leave them in bad spots.
What happened to good ol razor scooters. I can’t even smash my ankles and shins with bird scooters 😭😭😭
Jackson Rose San Antonio has Electric Razor Scooters also
@@IReallyDidForget does it hit my ankles
David Hernandez from experience, it will definitely fuck some ankles up
As someone who is on a college campus with these scooters I feel the same way.
Pro- on weekends less drunk drivers, cause people just bird around
Con- People get hit by these things daily because they are used going at top speeds between classes when the sidewalks are super congested.
It’s a mixed bag.
Never seen or heard of anyone getting hit by a scooter... people need to stop complaining
That's alot of conflict
I’m not sure what the laws in the US are like but in Norway you can be arrested for drunk driving on a bike and any other vehicles. Can’t imagine it’s different for electric scooters. And I’ve only had one single interaction with one of the scooters as I almost hit one with my car as he drove fast as hell onto a pedestrian crossing lol.
Zach Thomas did you watch the video?
@@Epicness424 lmao there are literally clips of people getting hit in the video. this comment is so funny
Remember when we used to care about this kind of stuff? Easier times
The first place I encountered these was in Washington DC in/near the national mall. It was actually a really good application. There was plenty of space, not in the way of pedestrians, the traffic flow already worked well with the scooters. And, there weren't too too many. I think there could be a good integration/application, but it needs to be regulated and limited, smart application.
i work in an ER and i see SO many patients come in with these injuries. and a 9 year old who stole his parent's credit card to use one.
How did he use it without a liscense? Doesn't it make you scan it?
Angella Knight if he stole a credit card, you don’t think he’d also steal a license?
@@cptnmochi he took that too, and the parents had no idea you needed that stuff to get the scooter. sooo that was an awkward interaction
It’s absurd like just imagine if people reacted to people biking the same way they reacted to these scooters. Bird (and others) should rent out its scooters the same way divvy rents out its bikes. They have certain stations to drop and pick up the bikes
Is divvy regulated though?
That could be cool. I think the scooter companies should focus on homeless and poor people more, not just college kids. If you only have to pay a few bucks to go several miles that could really help some people. Only thing is you’d need a credit card, which might be tough for some homeless people.
@@kohlcooke8789 I feel like college kids kind of fall into the "poor people" camp, don't they? Most college students aren't exactly swimming in money.
@@ami4705 sure but their parents probably are lol at least at the big-name colleges (idk if they're marketing it to community colleges or something)
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT???
I was washing the dishes when I watched this video so I didn't know that he literally meant dump oml--
I litterally didn't even know that this was a thing
the city that has dealt with this best in my experience is Sevilla, Spain. They have zones where the scooters have a cap on the top speed at 17 km/h roughly and designated parking zones if you try to park it somewhere else it won’t let you and will keep charging you.
“We will follow any regulations set by the city” that’s basically saying “because we legally have to”
Maybe if these Birds were more well dressed they would be more loved
Victim blaming at its worst. People are using these birds as tools for their own gains, and they get torched in mass graves. When will the perpetrators be held responsible for their actions?
i've seen a couple of these around where i live (a kinda small city in WYOMING) and i've been considering using them since i don't have a car, but the fear that i Might cause a collision has stopped me from trying them out. like if i Ran into a whole person with a SCOOTER there would be no other choice after that but to end it all
Great video as always, but I feel a big item missed was how, if we had better bike infrastructure, these would be less of an issue. But because roads are almost completely built for cars, it pits scooters, pedestrians, and other alternative modes of transportation to fight against each other for the scraps, which is sad.
There is nothing I love more...
Than scootin' around with my boys. Across the city. Just me on a scoot, a boy right here, a boy right here, maybe a boy in the back, just my boys. Ridin' around.
-Eddy "With the boys" Burback, 2019
Literally the best quote
Also for people in wheelchairs it is an even bigger problem that they are blocking sidewalks because they can’t just move around them all the time.
Great video, Eddy. He made a lot of really great points, like about traffic and the environment. Okay, so I know I’m three years late to this video, but I just wanted to add my thoughts on not just electric scooters but ride-sharing as a whole as someone who cares a lot about this topic. I know a lot of this will be stuff already touched on in the video, I’m just adding some more context and stats. I’d appreciate if you read the whole thing:
-Companies like Lyft and Uber are evil and terrible. They treat their drivers horribly and try to classify them as contractors to deny them employee benefits. Fuck these companies and fuck places like California for letting them get away with screwing over their employees, who deserve to be able to unionize and get all the rights of employees
-Ride-share also really screwed over many cab drivers who paid tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for medallions that are now obsolete in a ride-share world
-Scooters on sidewalks are unsafe, just as bikes on sidewalks are unsafe (and also parking them in the middle of the sidewalk hurts wheelchair users and other disabled people)
-While the introduction of ride-share companies like Lyft and Uber did a lot to screw over cab drivers and these companies are shitty to their drivers, one pro I’ve heard from listening to interviews with experts on this is that many Black New Yorkers - where cab culture was huge pre ride-share - said they would sometimes face discrimination from drivers who would refuse to pick them up. So one pro of ride-sharing companies like Uber and Lyft is the benefit to riders of color (not to mention female riders) who faced driver discrimination and/or sexual harassment. These are still issues with Lyft and Uber, but there are more concrete ways to report this than existed with taxis.
SO, despite all the massive issues these companies pose with corruption, flouting regulations, fucking over drivers and being unsafe, in my opinion from 1) reading and listening to a lot about this topic and 2) living in cities where ride-share and electric scooters and bikes were introduced, the real, big, overarching problem here is car culture in the United States and how our entire nation was built since early 20th century around cars - from cities to highways to suburbs, etc.
To elaborate, a lot of the legitimate criticisms people have with electric scooters - them going too fast on sidewalks, parking them in the middle of the sidewalk and people not wearing helmets when riding them - are less prevalent in many European and Asian countries where cities are 1) not built with mostly cars in mind 2) people ride bikes and walk places way more. In D.C., where I live, when I take an electric scooter I always try to ride it in the bike lane (I know Eddy touched on bike lanes in the video). But D.C. has a huge problem of cars hitting and killing bikers, scooterers and pedestrians and thats because, even though the city is a walkable city, there is still so much centered around cars and driving. So a lot of the time I’ll be in the bike lane but cars will come over and almost hit me or cars will be idling in the bike lane or there just isn’t a bike lane. So then we’re expected to ride on the road. But if you’ve ever lived in a city like D.C., NYC, Chicago or LA you know how cars are with bikers and scooterers on the road. They will be aggressive and almost hit you.
I could go on and on about this, and I haven’t even gotten into the problem with US’s lack of high speed railroads and long distance travel alternatives to cars. Moral of the story here, though, is that when the US suburbanized post-WWII in the 50s, everybody bought cars and moved to suburbs and cities were made less walkable. We built interstate highways and turnpikes and, unlike many European and Asian countries, never made sufficient alternative travel options like high speed trains. I mean look how few American cities have good metro or bus systems. I’m from Pittsburgh and it’s very hard to get around there without a car because of how bad the bus system is.
Cars are destroying the environment, yet around 90% of Americans own a car and around 85% get to work by car. This trend cannot continue. If the US wants to catch up with many of the other industrialized nations in the world, we need to invest massively in public transportation at the city and interstate level. Public transport is 1) safer - fewer deaths and accidents per capita 2) more affordable and accessible and 3) better for the environment in the longterm (around 27% of greenhouse gas emissions come from transportation, the majority of that from cars). This change requires a massive overhaul of US culture and huge investments in public infrastructure and public transportation, which will take years. The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act) passed in 2021 was a start, but way more needs to be done. Eddy is 100% right that way more regulation needs to be done in scooters, but more than that there just needs to be a massive reexamination and restructuring of all American transportation, not just scooters. Switching to scooters over cars is one part of it, but so are bikes, buses, trains, walking and metro/subways.
Ok I doubt anyone read this way too long rant on a 3-year old video, but if you did, thank you.
I live in Melbourne. Australia and a few years ago when we got Lime bikes they all ended up in the Yarra River, by the train line or in trees. It was hectic.