Datacolor SpyderCHECKR to Calibrate a Colors and Create Custom Profiles in Lightroom
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2019
- The SpyderCHECKR is a powerful tool for photographers that helps create custom profiles in Lightroom. These profiles allow us to match colors and contrast across different cameras and lighting conditions. In this video, I show in detail how to use the tool in your studio and in conjunction with Datacolor software and Lightroom Classic CC.
The SpyderCHECKR is one of the tools in the four-tool SpyderX Capture Pro kit. Datacolor sent one of their brand-new SpyderX Capture Pro kits for me to test in my photography business. Check out the other Datacolor videos on our channel to watch detailed hands-on reviews of each of the tools in SpyderX Capture Pro kit - Spyder X Elite Colorimeter, SpyderCUBE, SpyderLENSCAL and SpyderCHECKR color calibration chart.
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I've watched 7 or 8 videos on the SpyderCheckr and your's is the only one that explains the "how too". Thank you, Mike.
Remark; You should adjust the white -95% and black -4% of your custom profile in Lightroom before exporting
Steps: Take picture with checker, make copy, crop to checker. Export it to software (or drag it in), adjust to align and fit, save it as a preset. Back in LRC, in the develop module, the preset should appear, apply it to the photo. (If it doesn't appear, restart LRC or go hunt for it in the preset library.) These steps must be done for each lighting scenario. This just calibrates color, and can be a starting point for editing.
As Wouter Slagter mentioned below, you are missing one or two minor but pretty vital steps - if you really did skip them (or just hit the 'auto' button), then it would go some way to explaining your contrast issues.
First, set the white balance with the eyedropper on the centre of patch E2.
The manual recommends setting the white point on patch E1 to 90% and black point on E6 to 4% or 5% depending on the software in use (click to highlight the numbers to the right of the highlight/shadow sliders, pop your cursor over the relevant patch and adjust the density by tapping the up/down arrow keys whilst watching the percentages underneath the histogram).
The software can be set up as a Lightroom plug in - I'm not convinced that using a jpeg is the best choice. If you run it standalone, it would make more sense to use a 16 bit tiff export. None of the manufacturer's documentation that I've seen mentions jpeg. Of course, Datacolor may just have gone the extra mile (just-in-case, or maybe the paint was cheaper) and built their chart entirely from colours falling well within the SRGB gamut, but you never know........
Like your experience, the new user profiles are AWOL in Lightroom Classic/Mac Bug Sur 11.5.2 - have to go hunting again in the morning :)
Sorry to nitpick - I thought your video was very polished.
He should convert raw to tiff in camera and import direct to Datacolor Check software and make profile. Fuji have complete color off especially purple are washed red with this way he doing.
This was very helpful, thanks!
Ok let me clarify something. First good job of you. Secondly when showing how to to the others just do it right. When you have the target imported in lightroom or whatever siftware is that you have to make sure you push the wites clise to 90% and blacks to 4% whith the sliders in basic panel. With that done it isnt necessay to play with sliders after calibration as you did because you didnt push the blacks to 4 % thats why they were washed out.
I am unfortunatly colorblind, so I have to struggle with the skin tones; my Nikon D750 hasn´t the best skintones so it is more difficult for me. I´ve just ordered the SpyderCheckr and hope, that it will support my work to get accurate colors!
and ICC Profiles for Capture One?? I now wish I had bought X-Rite instead, which has this facility
Great video Mike. Thank you. Would it be better to put the Checker on a stand next to the subject to maintain a level Checker, or does that really matter.?
The color checker passport is so much better. You don't need a squared photo, it will recognize the colors regardless of angle and position. Editing an off center or skewed photo using this system adds unnecessary steps and time is wasted. It also doesn't allow the color order to be rotated in their software, making it impossible to create a profile lol!
3:44 that's why you have the camera on a tripod with a remote trigger to capture that moment you missed.
Problem is this is inferior to Xrite since it creates LR PRESET, and not icc color profile of that camera.
What happends if you want to color grade that image? You have to move sliders HSL sliders...
Different approach. Color grading is often up to final client's preferences anyways.
@@MikeHagen source: www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4034610#forum-post-58129919
From Jeff Schewe on this debate (if there really is one):
There is one major implication-the SpyderCheckr produces a preset using the HSL adjustments rather than a DNG profile. I have no understanding (and haven't heard the rational) why Datacolor chose a Lightroom or Camera Raw preset instead of a DNG profile. But the first problem with creating "presets" is Lightroom and Camera Raw don't share "presets". So, unlike a DNG profile which will work in both Lightroom AND Camera Raw, the Spyder solution is application specific. The other major issue is that presets are not easily transportable compared to DNG profiles which actually get imbedded in a raw file. I have no reason to suspect that the HSL adjustments of Lightroom and Camera Raw CAN'T handle the color corrections needed for calibration, but the fact that the calibration depends on a "presets" limits its usefulness.
What is also not mentioned in the videos nor the manual is what the user is supposed to do regarding the starting DNG profile. Does Datacolor suggest using Adobe Standard or some other DNG profile? I ask because the HSL calibration applied as a preset depends upon the DNG profile used to create the color sample file and adding a calibration on top of an existing DNG profile seems to complicate the whole calibration process. When using DNG profiles, it's pretty straightforward what the DNG profile creation is actually doing. Adding an HSL adjustment on top of an existing DNG profile adds complexity to the process and reduces the portability of the camera calibration.
The documentation seems to imply that both DNG Profile Editor and X-Rite's Passport solution somehow limits the end user's ability to make further adjustments. I think this is false...while you can't currently edit the resulting Passport generated DNG profile in X-Rite's software, you can indeed edit the resulting Passport generated DNG profile in Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor. You can edit the preset that SpyderCheckr creates in either Lightroom or Camera Raw, but you are editing an absolute preset that applies HSL adjustments requiring the saving out of a new subset of HSL adjustments-and again presets are not interchangeable between Lightroom and Camera Raw. I see this as a very limiting factor.
From another poster (Michael Tapes):
To amplify or maybe clarify Jeff's statements (not that he needs me for that :>), One cannot use the HSL Preset Calibration at will. They HAVE to have the proper DNG profile in place in order for the HSL "profile" to be meaningful. Said another way, a DNG profile is absolute and the HSL "profile" is relative. That could get you into a lot of trouble. Also if you want to use the HSL panel for its intended use, you now have no 0 (zero) reference as the new reference is the values of the "profile". A real PITA if you ask me. Also a DNG profile can be set automatically to be used each time for the camera it was made for by simply setting it as part of the camera default" settings. I do not recall that a Preset could be applied on an automatic basis, so this again is a hit and miss process if you have more than 1 camera model.
@@jasam123 That's a brilliant comment. Thank you very much for explaining this!
Will both the cube and checkr work on landscape and/or architecture photos?
Is it for example possible to hold the cube in your own hand shooting a photo with the other to get a closer representation of white balance?
It's not always possible to hold the checkr and cube exactly near the subject and I noticed a profile "elephant shade" so you have done it before from a distance (I'm roughly assuming) :)
Hello Mike, is there any way to use Spyder Checkr in Capture One Pro?
I have the SpyderCheckr. Its colors are not accurate. The problem is that it makes presets and not profiles. I did a test where I sent an image to the Datacolor software using the Adobe Standard profile and sent the same image with the Camera Faithful profile. The resulting presets gave me different hues when, theoretically, they should have adjusted to the same hue in relation to the camera profile I used. The X-rite Color Checker makes actual camera profiles.
The colours on the app not aligning with the physical checker... each time i try to royate the image so it aligns, the app realings the app checker again.. i dont if what im expoeriencing makes sense to anyone
Very much informative videos, please explain detail on monitor calibration using Spyder5 Elite. Thanks.
Hi Sunil - I don't currently own the Spyder5 Elite, but you can see my previous video on the SpyderX Pro and the process is very similar.
@@MikeHagen OK. Thank you.
What color profile did you use in camera?
Although a nice product, it dosen´t create a profile, it create a preset in the HSL Sliders. Profiles are at the top. You are using a Adobe Standard V2 profile. Nothing against DataColor, I use the Spyder X, but for real profiles i use the the other ColorCheker.
Смотрю обзор а чего в видио его не используешь? Сам зеленый как Шрэк!)))))
I dont like it cube is better