Fitting a Brushless motor to a WLtoys 12428. Upgrade. How to fit a brushless motor
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- *Links below for Motor, ESC, Axles & Shocks*
Finally fitted a Brushless set up to the WLtoys 12428. It also now has Metal Diffs & Oil Suspension. A quick run at the end of this video, a longer run and review will be carried out very soon, along with a Skatepark run.
The Truck:
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ESC:
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ESC & Motor combo:
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Shocks:
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Metal diffs:
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the other day my WLtoys electronics failed when i was up in the mountain and I had to do the long walk of shame with it, lost steering but I am now going to put all hobby grade electronics in mine now also.nice upgrades
Nothing worse than the walk of RC shame! I recommend this mild Brushless set up, plenty of power, but not over the top. I got 46km/h down my street...so probably 50km/h with a decent run. 👍
I run a 4500kv motor on stock gearing, it runs fine. I get about 62mph or 100km/h out of it
Love it, 3.5 months later 😂 I feel you on that. Excellent walk through and nice run 30+ mph is good for that small of a rig. 👍✌
Cheers...yes, pretty well matched for the truck. Going to give it a good bash in the week, see how it holds up.
love it 5 years later ;)
The 3900kV motor runs fine on the GoolRC 60A esc with no problems
Yes, all good 👍
Thanks for this video. Will try your upgrade soon!
I was going to say great video no music but then you put music in the video and I couldn’t hear the car running I gave you a thumbs up anyways
Yeah sorry, in the early days I was a bit music happy....... I do try now and leave all the music until the end, once all the info and general running has been done. 👍
AWESOME dude!! Picked up the SAME kit!! Cannot wait to join you! Cheers Heaps!😎
Nice one dude....you'll not be disappointed 👍
Hello from Düsseldorf
Just two questions....which Servo did you take?And....did it fit straight in or was there something to modify?
I cant keep driveshaft in mine on 3s but stock brushed motor
It's been 2 years...how has it been holding up? Do you still use it?
Super nice video 👌 i like this car !!
Cheers Dude
Can i put im a 17 turn brushed motor because im gonna do a complete rebuild i also bought a 4200mah battery for it
Yeah, can't see why not
What size servo did you use? And how did you fit it?
will these upgrades work good for the 10th scale model as well? I just got the 10428 for my first rc and already got a upgraded battery but want to upgrade the other components such as the motor ect. thanks :),,Also will any of these "16PCS Upgraded Metal Gear for Wltoys 144001 12428 12423 124011 124301 RC Car Parts" work for the 10428 1/10 scale model? cause i didnt see 10428 in there..
AWESOME set up you got my 👍 sub
Cheers Dude 🤘
120a on a 12th scale rig is basically useless and you overpay for amp you're not even using. A simple 60a esc will work with the 540 can size motor without spending needless money on a huge esc that isn't even needed. That esc runs around 40 us dollars. A combo can be had for the same price or less that will work just fine. You do what makes you happy though guys. Take care.
Well the motors max current is around 70A on 3s, so it certainly would give extra performance over a 60A ;)
Hey I need a bit of technical problem I’ve converted mine no problem but the stock lights can’t wire up anywhere and due to thinner wires than my aftermarket lights to my receiver it still don’t work so I’ve got no stock led lights did you manage a way round this problem? Thanks
Hi, I think I removed mine in the end. The other option is to buy some with a servo style plug on them, you can plug them straight in to your receiver 👍
Tomley RC Garage thanks for your reply 👍🏽
U using the original receiver
Hi there great video! I am really struggling to find a servo, motor and esc or just servo and motor that will work with this I no mods have to be done. If I change the esc do I need to also change the controller? I will be running it on 2s and 3s lipo. Please reply thankyou
You'll need a new controller and receiver if you add a new brushless motor and a servo
Tomley RC okay thankyou
Tomley RC I just watched you video you did the gaming one in the crawler and it’s great! Really enjoyed the content
Whats a good 2s or 3s battery for this esc I have it already but want to know Wich battery to buy , more than anything how much mah
can you please share the parts list, the links are dead now, thxs!
Done.... I think :)
i am planning to do the same to my wltoys 12428 the only problem is that he hasn'
t mentioned which reciever he has put and how and i really do need that
Please answer me. How do I connect a controller to the Esc???
Sir, can u upgrade to brushless motor + esc even if u use stock radio controller?
No because the receiver it comes with is a different connection thing and the new esc won't plug into the receiver so you need a new radio and receiver
Joshkboy13 Very good review I actually bought the goolrc ESC 60 amp and I have the same motor as your video. I was wondering do I need a new controller so the last comment has answers my question. I now realize I need the controller, program card. Can you last explain how you control the steering servo steering from the ESC?
5 wire
No brother the stock elecs have a integrated reciever/esc combo that cant be split. You have to get another esc, motor and a controller to be able to fully swap all the elecs and do a upgrade. Otherwise the only thing you can upgrade is the motor only.
¿De cuántos kv es el motor que has montado?
3900kv
@@dlindz2092 mucha aceleración. Helices con poco paso por vuelta
it already has plenty of power
My stock new car, keeps cutting electricity and short remote range, is that normal
hmmm....shouldn't do. Mine used to cut out when the batteries were low.
120A esc you better put a big c rating battery there so it doesn't puff up your batteries
I put a 60a one in the end. 120a was not needed for the 3900kv motor
Tomley RC Garage 60A is absolutely reasonable I can run 35c batteries with no issue
DIMITRIOS GYLTIDIS Yeah, much more sensible. The 120a is out of my speed run cars 👍🏻
Therez a alluminum parts kit for these now..
Yes, I have just got the metal diffs in this...not other added parts.
3665 Will fit?
Can I just throw in the brushless motor without any upgrades? I have a 2s lipo 3000mah. Mine came with a remote that has a screen on it and it is too cool to replace .
So the 1/10 fits in the 1/12 rc car
Use hobbywing esc u will see alot difference.
This needs complete rebuild, so a better ESC will be ordered 👍
Top speed with this new updates plz
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Good tutorial.
I was planning t change gear to metal, i hace to buy a full new set becaus i could not remove screw that gold one of the back pinion, it broke , so i had to buy a full new set.
But surprice the brand new set has also plastic gear and again i could not remove the same screw...this time i did not try to remove it. I end up using it as it was , with plastic gear.
Do you have a tip on how to remove the screw without bracking it?
Thanks
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U use same remote(stock) ??
CHINA WLTOYS 12428 ARE THEY GOOD???
Receiver and remot original replace too?
Yes
@@TomleyRC ok sir..can I get link receiver and remot for this upgrade?
What motor and esc are you using? The rc car is 1/12 let me now pls I want a brushless conversion with new esc but I dont want to have to get a new controller for that
Anyone watching. What about the reciever. It looks like the esc and reciever are one unit
So between this one modified as it is vs 124018 which one do you prefer?
You program esc ? Throttle end points ? Brake ?
No, just throw it in and drive it
What is this motor like in comparison to the stock? Is the gearing still the same? Great vidd.
Big difference to stock, much quicker, longer run time.... Gearing is the same
@@TomleyRC gonna be getting one soon, what servo are u using mine seems to be getting worn.
I ended up squeezing a full size one in as I could find the right size. But seems there are a few now that are the correct size for these. Worth measuring the stock size and then just search for a metal gear micro servo the same size.
@@TomleyRC thanks, how did u secure the full size one In
L dot Servo tape and hot glue I think. To big to use the mount
It looks awesome! A totally different rc from what u bought, I also have the goolrc motors n esc’s seems to do alright for what it is! Great video!
Cheers Steve, I couldn't get decent run in yesterday, going to take it out this week to give it a good bashing....see how it holds up!
Tomley RC Garage ya it seems like u went over it pretty well so it should hold up hopefully with that brushless power!
Seriously it looked quite nice and you made it look boring with the grey paint.
Grey & Neon Green go well together. As modelled by the US Olympic team of 2012 🇺🇲😎🤘
olá amigo, você teve que trocar seu radio? outra pergunta, sobre o servo, manteve o original ou trocou tbm? se sim coloca o modelo para mim por favor. Obrigado.
Olá, sim, eu mudei o rádio para um Flysky. E o Servo está aqui www.banggood.com/Feiyue-Upgraded-FY-S3-2_8KG-3-Wire-Servo-With-Metal-Gear-Car-Part-p-1060092.html?rmmds=search mas isso não é um bom ajuste, eu tive que usar fita servo.
Muito obrigado por responder minhas perguntas. Eu nao tenho muito conhecimento ainda, e gostaria de saber qual a é necessidade de trocar o radio original por outro? e se eu manter o radio original oque pode acontecer?
O rádio é combinado com o controlador de velocidade. Então, se você colocar um motor sem escova, precisará de um novo Controlador de Velocidade para usá-lo. E então um rádio para ligar o novo controlador de velocidade. Meu rádio: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flysky-FS-GT2E-AFHDS-2A-2-4ghz-2CH-Radio-System-Transmitter-for-RC-Car-Z4Y9/112972718876?epid = 18018844253 & hash = item1a4db2e31c: g: DnIAAOSw7eda59S7
Legal, e esse novo radio tem algum recurso além no do original? como por exemplo: Vih em outros automodelos como da traxxa que tem limitador de velocidade, funções para que o servo vire mais ou menos...
Sim, o link que eu coloquei acima tem o controle da direção, a velocidade da direção e o ajuste do acelerador.
Does the 3s works fine? What about 4S?
Also how long will the stock battery last
About 10 mins
What servo did you use
Will a graupner gm-genius turbo 60R / gm race 9.5T combo be coo for the a959-b will toys
Can i put a 3s lipo to this upgrade?
Yes, should be able to
@@TomleyRC thank you
What size pinoin gear are you using sir im fixing up my 12428 buggy
Stock pinion dude 👍
Hi, i’m wanting to do a minor motor upgrade on mine, even just a slightly faster 540 size brushed.... any idea how many turns the original motor is? Its just a car for my kid, your advice is appreciated heaps!
I'm not sure on the stock motor... but I think it's pretty fast anyway. Just sticking a 1500mah Lipo in gives a good bit of extra grunt
you can buy a smaller gears to make it go faster
Crveni Limun all good, ive since replaced all the electrics and motor :-)
Where do you buy silver shell
Painted it :)
change esc too ?
Yes, ESC and Motor combo
You know the military trucks youve got what exactly do you need to make it fully proportional on the steering n the throttle thanks
You'll need a micro servo, esc and controller. Links are usually in the description. Here's one thats a bit more detailed. czcams.com/video/9fHxmWNymt0/video.html&lc=UgzYHDAKKZ_GkcdRGtB4AaABAg
what gear ratio are you using
Is the transmitter and recover waterproof that you used
No
@@TomleyRC thanks
Are you in Leamington spa by any chance? looks like you're not far from me lol
Lincoln mate
Im in sw of england
Do you have problems with the driveshaft? I got the strongest metal one i could find and it broke on the second run, soldered it, did it again. It gets extreamly hot and starts to slowly eat itself.
No, not had any issues. sounds like something is binding?
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Sir, how long was the speed of the car maximum?
70km/h+
any new video?
What servo did you use?
What scale is this car?
Around 1/12
Hello, can you tell me how do you start it? it does not seem that the ESC has a on/off switch. Also, what controller are you using? Thank you
It has got a switch, it's hidden within the truck.
i did that...and the rubber on my tires torn....what a speed...😥😥
Strange , the standard tyres are quite hard. Usually soft tyres tear. Bad luck that!
Tomley RC Garage 😂😂😂
Tomley: how long did it take for it to break with the brushless in it? are you diffs metal? ball bearings? metal transmission gears?
It lasted about 4 packs (about an hrs running), although I was not being gentle with it, so I think it should last longer now I've replaced the stripped Spur. It has full ball bearings (stock), metal diffs and stock plastic spur. I've decided not to replace the stock spur with a metal one so that there is a weak point, rather than risking destroying the diffs. I hopefully will get out again with it this weekend, now it's rebuilt with better dirt wheels/tyres 👍
nice!
I followed this video but stumbled on the electronics parts. Not sure how i can hack the original rx/esc to control the brushless esc...help pls?
You’ll need a separate transmitter/receiver. You can’t run the brushless off the original combined electronics.
@@TomleyRC apparently my research wasnt enough. Now im looking for the 3pin MG servo to complete this. Did you ever change to metal gears on your differentials?
Hi there, do I need to change reciver while brushless upgrade?
Yes, you will need a Transmitter and Receiver 👍
How do you clean it after dirt runs? I dont wanna put liquid on it of anytype.
Also how do you clean the nooks and crannies like shocks etc where dust goes deep in them
@@faiqcreates WD 40. (Oil) so it wont rust
Hi tom. I upgrade my spur to metal spur n also all other gears to metal but still running same motor n its not running properly now. U think if i upgrade to brushless. Would it help for it to run smoother and fast again. As it will have more power output from brushless. Cheers
All metal gears needs a bit more torque as it's a bit heavier, maybe to much for the standard motor. A Brushless system will give it better performance for sure. 👍
Thank u.looking forward to upgrade motor soon. Any recommendation. Such as motor size. Esc n servo.
Hi was it just the motor n esc u changed to run on brushless
New Transmitter & steering servo as well 👍...oh and metal diffs.
@@TomleyRC yer but do u need them to to get brushless to run
You can’t run a Brushless with stock Servo or transmitter 👍🏻
@@TomleyRC whys that then
John Salt The stock ESC is a combined one with built in receiver, if you put a Brushless in, you need to add a stand alone receiver/transmitter. The stock Servo is a 5 wire, standard receivers take a 3 wire.
Strange.. the truck shipped to me has a different stock tyres and has a metal drive shaft. Im looking forward on upgrading mine too especially the transmitter/receiver because mine has a delay on reverse or maybe it's just a fail safe feature?
Do you mean the brake? 1 pull back puts the brake on, then release and pull back again to reverse?
Tomley RC Garage lol so if it is running, the first push is brake then push again to reverse? I never knew that as I only have rock crawlers before that has forward, reverse, left and right.
Forward - Brake- Reverse 👍....or at least thats what I think is your issue. Glad to have helped!
@@rjelstyx4909 lol I was confused when I got my first crawler and I went to hit the brakes and it did a reverse wheelie lol. I was the opposite I only had bashers hahaha.
is there any where i can buy that metal front part of the chassis
Check Aliexpress dude
Do you have a complete list of upgrades? I just got my 12428 and your build on it seems pretty cool
Hows it run without the weight? Or weight removed
?
I've not tried it without the weights, but I expect it would roll over even more than normal :)
What servo did you end up using? I am having a hard time getting a decent one to fit in that little spot.
Thanks!
I think I ended up getting a Feiyue one, and it was slightly to small, so had to use some small washers to get it to fit properly.
@@TomleyRC Thanks, I am going to try and move the weights to give myself some more room.
@@Spacecadet0730 emax 9258 fits ,
Great vid my 12428 is new untouched
The stock transmitter is terrible is there any way I can bind it to my skyFS gt3c I've 2 channels I'm not using so is there any way please?? As there's no bind plug
If it's a No then changing every thing will allow me to bind it to my sky transmitter is that right please ???
Francis, unfortunately you'll need to change the ESC and Steering servo to use a different Transmitter/Receiver. I recommend the Quicrun 1060 ESC, and as for a steering servo...I had to make bracket to fit one I already had. Not sure if you can get a direct replacement thats 3 pin.
@@TomleyRC
Thank you for your great reply and so promptly
Ok I thought that may be the case would I need complete set up as in Receiver , engine , and ESC I could always buy what you have rcormended is there a compo set ?? If not I'll do what you recormend above thank you
And thanks for a great channel hope you hit your subscription target
From Frank
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Frank, you can use the motor/engine that is fitted and just buy a new controller, receiver, ESC and also a 3 wire servo. You could also use a brushless combo (motor and ESC) with a new servo and controller/receiver
@@TomleyRC
Thankyou Tomley I'm going to do what you said both on order thank you
have you had a problem? or some break?
Since making it brushless a few things have broken, but mainly down to my bad driving!
Hello - nice video. Im thinking of using the same ESC, as for motor what would be the next step in power - i would like to pull some rolling wheelies with it ? :) And what do you reccommend for servo ? And controller ? Can you use stock servo and controller with this setup ?
Because the ESC on these also has the receiver in it, you need to use a different transmitter & receiver if you upgrade it. I use a 'Flysky' transmitter/receiver for most of my stuff. As for the Servo, they are not a standard size, I already had one so I'm not sure exactly what type you'd need.
Thanks. Can you reccommend me a transmitter/reciever also if i use the motor and esc you showed ?
I just use something like this: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-4G-2-Channel-for-Flysky-FS-GT2E-System-Transmitter-and-Receiver-RC-Car-Boat-BE/332534526425?hash=item4d6c9a31d9:g:67gAAOSwXSJXOyY7
Ok cool thanks. How about the servo then - can you still use the 5pin stock servo or you need a new one with 3pins ? If you need a new one please link what you would reccommend. :)
It'll be a 3 pin one you need, I used this one, but its a bit small so had to put some servo tape on it to stop it moving in the bracket. www.banggood.com/Feiyue-Upgraded-FY-S3-2_8KG-3-Wire-Servo-With-Metal-Gear-Car-Part-p-1060092.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN
Tomley rc Garage, quais baterias voce esta usando em seu wltoys depois de transformado em brushless? recente mente atualizei o meu mais as bateriais de 7,4v 2200mah nao estao funcionando corretamente, pois liga o esc e o servo, mas nao move para frente nem para tras.
1300mah 7.4V 2s Lipo & 1600mah 11.1v 3s
talvez seja o esc?
Troquei tudo novo.. tirei da caixa e montei.. será algum problema de fábrica?
Bateria com carga baixa poderia ser? Pois meu carregador de baterias ainda não chrgou
sim talvez
it is not wltoys 12428 it is the wltoys 12427
Can i go up a bit of this motor? Like, what's the best upgrade motor than 3900kv? Combo with 60a esc?
Yes, you could probably go up to a 4400kv maybe
@@TomleyRC Thank you so much for your rply
@@TomleyRC Thank you so much for your rply
I'm confused. The servo has a cord as well as the esc. How do they plug into each other?
Servo plugs into the Receiver as does the ESC.
Tomley RC Garage I see. So you needed a new receiver to achieve this setup then?
Yes, the WLtoys uses a combined Receiver/ESC. There may be a way of doing it....but far easier to by a cheap transmitter/Receiver
Tomley RC Garage thanks for the info, I'm still an rc newbie so I'm in the learning stage.
Thats sometimes the fun bit, learning something new. Glad I have been of some help 👍
hey how did you add the switch on the to the ESC?
Came with it 👍
@@TomleyRC i ordered it and it didnt have a switch on it
can you buy switches
oh...not sure! Sorry
and what servo did you put in
A random one I had, but best to measure the stock one and look on Banggood or Gearbest 👍
Emax 9258
Change those tires bro!
Proline Dirt Hawgs going on mate, just gotta get the right wheels for them ;)
Tomley RC Garage very cool friend! I actually have the same goolrc motor in my vaterra chassis! Great stuff! Thx!
I'm trying to find a suitable 'dirty' location for it, no point fitting 2.2 Dirt Hawgs and driving it on grass or the road. Probably a few weeks yet as I have other projects and videos on the go ;)
It looked better bin green before you re-painted it.
What motor did you use in the video?
And do i need to do something on the motor holder?
Could I go up to a 4500kv motor with stock gearing?
Yes, should be good 👍
What servo are you useing?
I think it's a Feyiue FY03 one, although a but small so had to adapt it to fit.
@@TomleyRC Thanks
What servo did you recommend?