🛑STOP🛑 Making These SSD Mistakes! Best SSD for Gaming 2021

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  • Buying the Best SSD for Gaming 2021 is hard! This SSD buying guide will help you avoid mistakes and understand how to get the Best Gaming SSD 2021 for your next PC Build or PC Upgrade. SSDs Explained from Sata to PCIE 3.0 to PCIE 4.0. -Click "Show More" For Links-
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    - Best PCIE 3.0 SSD for Gaming 2021-
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    - Pro-Sumer Level M.2 NVME PCIE 3.0 SSD for Gaming 2021-
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    Whether upgrading a gaming PC or looking for the best gaming PC Build 2021, getting the Best SSD for Gaming 2021 is harder than you think. What's the difference between the Best SATA SSD, the Best NVME SSD, and between an NVME PCIE Gen 3 SSD and PCIE Gen 4 SSD? Will your gaming pc build even support PCIE Gen 4? Does your best gaming SSD need to have a DRAM Cache, SLC Cache, or Host Memory Buffer (HMB)? What performance differences are there in gaming between a Hard Drive, the best SATA SSD for gaming, and the best M.2 NVME SSD for gaming in 2021?
    In this video, we review everything you need to know about buying the best SSD for gaming 2021, answer the big questions about SSD gaming performance, and make specific product recommendations to ensure you end up buying the best gaming SSD. Unless you have unlimited money to spend on your PC, money wasted on buying an SSD that isn't the best gaming SSD will end up costing you FPS. Instead, invest that money in a better CPU, GPU, or faster RAM to get better gaming performance. And you could end up with not enough SSD for gaming if you undersize your drive by overspending on super fast storage. Remember, Call of Duty Warzone recommends 175 GB of storage space, so drive size is also part of gaming performance as it is hard to play games you can't load on your SSD!
    If you are looking for the best Gaming PC Build 2021 or even just the best PC Build 2021, this video will cover SSDs Explained, and teach you how to build the best gaming pc in 2021. We recommend best gaming SSD for any budget or use case, including the Best Sata SSD 2021, Best M.2 NVME SSD for gaming 2021, and make some recommendations for best SSD 2021 for any use case.
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    0:00 Best Gaming SSD 2021 Overview
    0:30 Common SSD Mistakes
    1:23 Storage Types Explained: HDD, SATA, NVME
    1:41 AVOID HDD & Why
    1:57 SATA SSDs Explained
    2:49 NVME SSDs Explained - PCIE 3 vs 4
    3:13 NVME Compatibility
    4:10 PCIE 4.0 Motherboard Considerations
    4:35 Do M.2 Drives Need Heatsinks?
    5:04 TLC vs QLC - Does it Matter for Gaming?
    5:49 Do you need DRAM / SLC Cache or HMB for Gaming?
    6:30 How Much Storage Do You Need for Gaming?
    6:59 Issues with Drive Cloning SATA to NVME
    7:10 FPS Gaming Performance - SATA vs NVME Gen 3 vs Gen 4
    8:36 Game Loading Time Differences - SATA vs NVME Gen 3 vs Gen 4
    9:17 Price to Performance - Best Gaming SSD for the Money
    10:04 Why PCIE 4.0 Isn't For Gaming
    10:44 Best Gaming SSD Product Recommendations
    11:09 M.2 Adapter for Older Systems
    11:33 Best SATA SSDs for Gaming 2021
    12:57 ARGB SATA SSD for Gaming - BLING!
    13:28 Best NVME SSDs for Gaming 2021 - Gen 3
    15:54 ARGB NVME SSDs for Gaming 2021 - BLING!
    16:45 Pro-Sumer Level Gen 3 NVME SSD
    18:14 M.2 NVME PCIE 4.0 SSDs to Consider
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  • @matthewIhorn
    @matthewIhorn Před 2 lety +1322

    "must move hands, must move hands." There's as much hand movement as a Eminem rap video.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +380

      Maybe I’ll branch into music videos next (;

    • @samueljones8244
      @samueljones8244 Před 2 lety +57

      Yep...thats... hypnotizing...Pc Builder...are You doing some Magick tricks on us?...😏
      Greeatings from Poland.

    • @lighthunter1980
      @lighthunter1980 Před 2 lety +46

      Takes the punch like a champ 💪😂

    • @bboycrosel
      @bboycrosel Před 2 lety +4

      LOL

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 Před 2 lety +28

      My dad literally can not talk if his hands can't move... it is hilarious.

  • @ax-50
    @ax-50 Před 2 lety +104

    Moving from HDD to SSD was the best thing ever! Especially when you played heavily modded Skyrim and Fallout 4 (like... very heavy, hundreds of big mods)

    • @Blue-jn1ph
      @Blue-jn1ph Před 2 lety +6

      When you first move from HDD to SSD the speed are incredible

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp Před 2 lety +3

      Fallout 4 is pretty consiant with the speed of the drives, SSD about 7 seconds between locations to load, Samsung 970 Pro 5 seconds, and 980 Pro is 3 seconds. All these loading times mount up. Also had to use a mod to remove the loading screen fps limit cause even with vsync disabled loading times was about 2 minuites which over the course of a game can be many hours wasted.
      I jumped on the SSD Bandwagon as soon as they came out to buy and have NEVER looked back and that was coming from RAID 0 WD Raptor X 150GB 15,000rpm) which became my main drives and the 32GB SSD was the boot drive with Windows.

    • @user-zu1ix3yq2w
      @user-zu1ix3yq2w Před 2 lety +1

      I wish I knew if there was any point going from an NVMe rated at 1700Mbps to one rated at 5000Mbps. (There are more important factors than those sequential read/write speeds, but just assuming the NVMe drive might be better in other ways, too.)

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-zu1ix3yq2w Most games won't benefit from it to be honest, although Battletech the game also benefits from it too with mods like rougetech or Battech Advanced 3062. Without mods there's no real difference.
      HDD is 10+ minutes long (just to load the game!!!) Samsung 970 is around 90 seconds and the 980 is around 50 seconds
      This was on my laptop
      Ryzen 4800H
      16GB 3200MT
      6GB RTX 2060
      256GB Boot SSD and 1TB 7200rpm
      I installed it on the HHD cause the game is like 30GB + mod 25GB Unpacked + 32GB Page file. When I got my 980 Pro late last year that gone into my main computer and the 970 Gone into my Laptop

    • @user-zu1ix3yq2w
      @user-zu1ix3yq2w Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dazzxp This is why I'm just patiently waiting to see if SSDs or NVMes will fall to cheap prices instead of getting the pricier more performant ones. 2TB on a single drive would be sufficient for me. Programs/games don't really use the higher performance of the newer drives. I was hoping the PS5 would change that.

  • @rickylozada7994
    @rickylozada7994 Před 2 lety +62

    I'm relatively new to PC. Been on PC since July 2021 when my Xbox one finally died. It's overwhelming to say the least, the terminology, the new hardware, the troubleshooting etc. But I think I'm going to visit this channel a lot, solely based on this video. The information was great and it's easy to process. Coming from someone who avoided playing on PC and now I refuse to go back to Xbox.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +13

      Welcome to PC building and so glad we can help! Thank you for the feedback, we appreciate it.

  • @Kxrt_i
    @Kxrt_i Před rokem

    Started watching your videos a year ago when I was building my pc, still coming back to your channel for information from time to time. Thank you for your work.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem +1

      That's so great to hear! Thank you for watching and hope you keep enjoying

  • @aarambhanand9841
    @aarambhanand9841 Před 2 lety +768

    I just wanna let you know that I love your videos. Unlike a of lot others, you provide great info and let the viewers choose the product that's relevant for them. Plus the times stamps are a godsend. Cant even begin to imagine the time and effort to make one video. Thank you for what you do.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +85

      Glad you like them!

    • @rexomi17
      @rexomi17 Před 2 lety +6

      @@PCBuilderChannel what ssd i should buy
      Nvme with dram

    • @mrsxber1916
      @mrsxber1916 Před 2 lety +13

      Honestly I freaking LOVE those timestamps. Been trying to buy an ssd lately and wanted to know a bit more about DRAM and SLC caches. So I came back to this gem and there the timestamp was. Superb Job PC Builder

    • @henrikpflanz6177
      @henrikpflanz6177 Před rokem +1

      @@rexomi17 best budget gen 3: silicon power a60, best midrange gen 3: adata xpg sx8200 pro, best high end gen 3: western digital black sn750, best budget gen 4: t force cardera z440, best high end gen 4: seagate firecuda 530

    • @rexomi17
      @rexomi17 Před rokem +1

      @@henrikpflanz6177 i brought 980 non pro
      Thx anyway

  • @Wek-9
    @Wek-9 Před 2 lety +537

    This channel is a gem honestly, so informative yet easy to follow and understand. Thank you!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +21

      We love to hear it! Thank you for watching.

    • @ArianBVRZ
      @ArianBVRZ Před 2 lety +4

      @@PCBuilderChannel you are pure gold! I LOVE THIS CHANNEL AND ALL THE AMAZING INFO!

    • @JoaoCarvalho-ip5yq
      @JoaoCarvalho-ip5yq Před 2 lety +4

      @@PCBuilderChannel this is exactly the type of video I would recomend if someone would ask me the same question!
      You give a PERSONAL recomendation and that is exactly how this video feels. It has been a while since I had a feeling like this watching a youtube video.
      No information was left on the table so congratiolations for the attention to detail. In these days whatever is said on a video will be scrutinized by the comment section and the way you handle this is amazing!
      Starting a pc building channel when some BIG names are already around demands a lot of courage but you have something here with a lot of potential!
      Saying underrated makes no justice, there pc/tech recommendations channels with way more views and subs but you bring 10 times the quality!
      Big fan of your work! Keep it up!
      PS: this might be my second or third time writing a comment in all of these years of youtube.

    • @jussit3909
      @jussit3909 Před 2 lety +1

      I love this channel aswell. It's more down-to-earth than most other similiar channels. Many other channels focus in witty jokes and funny presentation. I like the fact that Jason doesn't really seem to dislike any brand just for the sake of it. Some other people might never say anything good about some (for example) MSI GPU just because they dislike MSI, even if that particular GPU is excellent.

    • @magoolew5131
      @magoolew5131 Před 2 lety

      Easy for you to say about easy to follow. I haven' built a computer in at least 10 years, maybe longer, and I really just about have no clue what he's talking about..

  • @jasonkerbs806
    @jasonkerbs806 Před 2 lety +9

    I built my first PC this July. I ended up settling on the WD Black SN750 1tb. It's my first and only computer so I can't make any comparisons to other brands, but I do know that it has worked flawlessly so far and it's very fast at loading/downloading compared to any other electronic device I do own.

  • @guilhermemendes5977
    @guilhermemendes5977 Před rokem

    This video is a year old and stll answered every question I had about buying an SSD for a gaming PC. Thank you very much!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem +1

      So glad we could help! We keep thinking we should replace it but the info is still good so it's still going strong!

  • @andrianhiew7180
    @andrianhiew7180 Před 2 lety +56

    I've only started working in February this year right after my final paper of my Bachelor's degree (partly forced by the lack of jobs my parents have), building a dream PC has been my driving force to earn more rather than just having the mindset of "Staying Alive".
    That said, I've found your videos specifically to be the most helpful and intuitive when doing parts research for budgeting. Thank you for what you do, no matter the content, timestamps, or overall video pacing (not too draggy, but not too quick).
    Appreciation from Malaysia, Jason. Hope you'll stay safe!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +6

      Thank you so much for your kind words! Sending you all the best wishes

  • @bittripper3530
    @bittripper3530 Před 2 lety +124

    Good video I liked the reference to Linus where he demonstrated that you'd not notice the difference in game loading times. This is because the system has to process data as it loads into the game, doesn't load the files in a massive sequential chunk.

  • @RedJRyan
    @RedJRyan Před 2 lety +176

    This is an excellent guide, but I'd like to point out 2 things that could be added. 1 - A DRAM cache can help SSDs feel snappier, but they can also hide a very slow write speed behind the cache. For example, the Samsung QVO drives drop to about 150MBps though I've seen it go slower still. It's important to avoid these if you're using the SSD as boot drive, for example to upgrade for an older computer or laptop. I tested this myself, and seen quite a few reports of people having "slow" computers with these drives. What (probably) happens is that the virtual memory and temp files from windows eat up a lot of the cache, leaving only slow speeds for actual usage. These are excellent drives for a gaming drive, or an auxiliary drive that doesn't need great sustained write speeds.
    2. The PCIe extender to host an M.2 drive may work, but very few old motherboards support booting from these drives. If you're buying these, hoping to make the system snappier, it may end up being a big disappointment.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 Před rokem

      I'd add that direct streaming means faster nvme, even pcie4, means faster is better for graphical performance. That's that next gen gaming feature that streams directly from disk to the video card for fastest asset loading. Bypasses the CPU/ram.

    • @Danielxt34
      @Danielxt34 Před rokem +1

      Dude thanks so much man. I want to buy a 512gb SSD for boot drive and a 1tb Nvm for gaming. What do you recommend for budget mid tier?

    • @RedJRyan
      @RedJRyan Před rokem +6

      @@Danielxt34 if your system supports it, I would recommend using NVMe for a boot drive, and an affordable SSD for gaming.
      Luckily, NVMe drives dropped in price, so there are many NVMe with 3gbps speeds that are almost the same price as SATA SSDs. The Samsung evo plus has become quite affordable. There may be slightly better picks but these have often been my go to drives:
      * if you need a SATA ssd that performs well, the crucial.MX500 offers great value. Samsung EVO sata drives are better but tend to be a lot more expensive. These are good main drive replacements IF you can't get NVMe.
      * for gaming drives (most games), any cheap SSD with 500MBps read speeds is good enough. Even the cheaper Samsung QVO drives are good. Don't expect good write performance but games don't need much of that. Only very few games benefit from NVMe drives.
      * For NVMe, it depends on the budget and time. Any drive that reaches 2000MBps is decent, but sometimes a top drive only costs a few bucks more. The Samsung Evo is a solid choice but there are occasional competitors with a better price or a tad more performance. You can go for the Samsung 980 Pro but it tends to be expensive and more powerful than what most people need.
      So for example, for a very budget focused build you could do:
      * 500 gb NVMe, like Corsair MP510, Samsung980 (not pro), Kingston KC2500.
      * 2tb cheap SSD. Just search for a cheap one with good read speeds and a brand that you trust. The MX500 is only 165 here, but Kingston offers an NVMe for slightly less and would be a better pick ifyou have the slot.
      If you can take it higher, go for a 1TB main drive NVMe. Then upgrade the 2nd drive for what the budget allows.

    • @Danielxt34
      @Danielxt34 Před rokem

      @@RedJRyan I was thinking about this build:
      -Samsung 980 (not pro) 500gb for boot drive
      -TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Zero Z330 1 TB for Gaming / OR TEAMGROUP T-Force VULCAN 1TB
      Should a look for other options on the gaming drive?
      Mother board would be the Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro (Maybe v2 version)

    • @RedJRyan
      @RedJRyan Před rokem +1

      @@Danielxt34 There's nothing wrong with those choices on paper. Your motherboard could, in theory, push that main drive even further but you will experience very little difference.
      Just stay on the lookout for deals for SSDs with equal or better performance/price.

  • @Thrill_House
    @Thrill_House Před 2 lety +1

    Love your channel! I’m gearing up on my first PC build - been a console gamer my whole life but have always wanted to build a PC. I’ve been waiting over a year for GPU prices to fall and I recently started the build wheels in motion as the market has gotten less koo koo - I. so happy and feel so grateful that I stumbled onto your channel as I prepare to jump off the cliff. You have answered so many specific noob questions I’ve had rattling around in my head the last year, you parse out complex info in a very relatable and understandable way, and your enthusiasm is infectious (the good kind) I wish you and your cat(s) the best of success and look forward to watching your channel grow🤙🏼🤙🏼

  • @ZeBuuuL0n
    @ZeBuuuL0n Před rokem +11

    As a neophyte, understanding & remembering all those names and specifications can be a challenge, especially when English isn't your first language, but you've explained it all so clearly and simply I feel like just GOT it. A wonderfully informative video, thank you so much for putting in the time and effort!!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem +2

      Thank you for the feedback, it means a lot to us! Hope you keep enjoying the content.

  • @ceo_of_arbys4706
    @ceo_of_arbys4706 Před 2 lety +17

    Love the videos man keep them coming, love people who know more about stuff than me explain things so I can get a better knowledge!

  • @martingo2680
    @martingo2680 Před rokem

    10 years since my last built.. what a refreshing update. Excellent job on this video

  • @Playa-V
    @Playa-V Před 2 lety

    There is so much to discuss, when it comes to pc components but you always manage to provide so much info, in so little time. iluvit

  • @curtismariani6303
    @curtismariani6303 Před 2 lety +18

    Great video. This covers everything someone would need to know when buying storage, in what can be a very confusing area. I spent hours and hours doing my research last year and this covers it off in 20 minutes.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      So glad this is helpful! Thank you for the feedback. We really appreciate it.

  • @vatsalmodi7135
    @vatsalmodi7135 Před 2 lety +64

    You somewhat right. The Kingston A2000 was priced very competitively in India, but as it has gained a lot of popularity among pc enthusiasts, retailers have increased its pricing. PC builders go to WD blue sn550 or Corsair P1 here in India thesedays.

    • @Ghengiskhansmum
      @Ghengiskhansmum Před rokem +3

      Prices for both gen 3 and 4 have recently rocketed in the UK too... probably down to our idiotic government crashing the £ and now getting poor dollar rates. Amazon UK has seen up to £80 extra for 2tb in a week and then saying it's got a 40 percent reduction, I wouldn't have known if I didn't have 4 different ones in my basket. Mind you it's Amazon prime day tomorrow so likely down to them giving false discounts on the day.

    • @fucksusan.fuckcensorship.874
      @fucksusan.fuckcensorship.874 Před rokem

      @@Ghengiskhansmum for me its the opposite kingston is always more affordable than WD. for example WD and kingston both have a 7000mbs read/write speed nmve drive. But the WD one is literally 100$ more than the kingston one. I bought a kingston 2TB kc3000 for 240 when the WD SN850 was 350

    • @rice214
      @rice214 Před rokem

      @@Ghengiskhansmum Same but with monitors. The dell s2722dgm was 200 but now its like 360

  • @eatatjoe69
    @eatatjoe69 Před 2 lety +1

    This video went above on beyond. Came to just see recommendations. Left with above average knowledge of current state of ssds. Thank you!

  • @Matlockization
    @Matlockization Před 2 lety

    You talk directly, get straight to the point and offer links about other related topics, thankyou.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      So glad you enjoyed! Thank you for the feedback it means a lot

  • @frankessss
    @frankessss Před 2 lety +5

    As always very reasonable recommendations, thanks! I am buying the 2Tb crucial SATA drive to complement my build.

  • @michaelheath1194
    @michaelheath1194 Před 2 lety +6

    This was an excellent breakdown! I already knew most of the information, but it was presented in a way that made it enjoyable to listen to and easy to digest. Keep up the great work :)

  • @carlosmaggoowork9743
    @carlosmaggoowork9743 Před 2 lety

    Finally the algorith recommended me a credible and decent channel. I was part of the non sub viewers and now glad to be part of the channel. Please keep un the Good work and wishing Good Vibes for you, your family and loved ones And this cool sweet channel!

  • @robertsamson4610
    @robertsamson4610 Před 2 lety

    Great info and I love the fact that you don't play annoying music that would interfere with your talking points. Thumbs Up!

  • @Waldherz
    @Waldherz Před rokem +17

    With the introduction of direct storage, the SSD vs performance landscape changed a bit.
    Now a very fast SSD can provide a slight boost in FPS.

    • @Dysue
      @Dysue Před 11 měsíci +3

      Didn't boost your FPS enough to find this video until 647 days after it was uploaded. Big profit :D

  • @PCBuilderChannel
    @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +89

    **NOTE: I'm aware of the WD SN550 change. It is still absolutely fine for gaming or boot drives as it has a 12gb SLC cache. If you are the 5% of users who might notice it, get one of the faster PCIE 3.0 or 4.0 Drives instead. **
    Are you building or upgrading a PC? If so, what games are you playing, and what SSD are you getting?

    • @ziz3l
      @ziz3l Před 2 lety +6

      I am getting a Samsung 980 and I am going to play some splitgate Minecraft warzone csgo and some other games

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +2

      Good list!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +2

      Another good one for pro-sumer level performance.

    • @ryanhillary9198
      @ryanhillary9198 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm on my way to the city right now to get a ssd and a GPU. Finally found 1 at MSRP. Perfect timing Jason greatly appreciated as always

    • @shotgunshawzy
      @shotgunshawzy Před 2 lety +3

      I have the WD_BLACK SN850 500GB NVMe Gen4 for my new system, will be purchasing Ryzen 5 5600x soon to pair with it.

  • @stepbystep6773
    @stepbystep6773 Před 2 lety

    The quality in your videos is mind blowing!!

  • @michaela9541
    @michaela9541 Před 2 lety +4

    Perfect timing for my need , Thanks Jason.

  • @rjennings0142
    @rjennings0142 Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks for including the information about plugging M.2's into PCIE with an adapter. To dumb it down a little more for those that need, when you buy a MOBO that only has 1 M.2 and you have another or need to expand storage you can buy a peice of hardware that holds the M.2 SSD and then plugs into the PCIe 3.0 etc.

    • @gabriellazonunthara1227
      @gabriellazonunthara1227 Před 2 lety

      and correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you can't boot windows using M.2 SSD with a PCIe adapter

  • @carsonbledsoe5384
    @carsonbledsoe5384 Před 2 lety +1

    Just wanted to say thanks for this video! I think this is the first of your videos I've watched but was really impressed with the quality and content. Thanks for making solid content that dumbs down content without making your viewers feel like they're being talked down to!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      So glad it was helpful! Thank you for the feedback it means a lot

  • @timadams1827
    @timadams1827 Před 2 lety

    I’m wanting to build a gaming pc with my kids. It appears to me that your videos will help greatly. Thank you.

  • @curvingfyre6810
    @curvingfyre6810 Před 2 lety +38

    to be clear, in some very rare cases, where games use live loading, and your ram is just about bare minimum, drive speed can matter for in-game performance to reduce the severity and regularity of hitches. That being said, it would most likely be better to upgrade the ram if you can't upgrade both.

  • @krimo7751
    @krimo7751 Před 2 lety +3

    Great timing I was about to buy a new ssd and an M. 2 for my new gaming laptop, please keep up the good work and good luck l.

  • @hd-bild1513
    @hd-bild1513 Před 2 lety

    your videos have almost single handedly helped me make a pc build :)

  • @just_david2663
    @just_david2663 Před 2 lety

    im so glad that i've found your channel! rlly helpful for my first pc build:)

  • @arvinderk324
    @arvinderk324 Před 2 lety +3

    This guy is really amazing. First of all I like the Introduction Music to start with along with the Black Cat as the Tag Line for the Channel. Your pet looks Great. I have already subscribed to your channel on the Second video itself. I am in process of building a PC for myself and this channel has helped me a lot to narrow down the options for almost all the components that is required for a PERFECT PC. Thanks for all the good work. God Bless you for all the Good Deed work you are doing. Keep it up.:)

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      Thank you so much for the kind words!! Best of luck with your build and thank you for the support!

  • @uolamer
    @uolamer Před 2 lety +29

    Eliminating the HD seek time by going to a SSD is the most notable impact for day to day use cases. NVME if have the option.

    • @oktc68
      @oktc68 Před 2 lety +1

      I use both SATA SSD & M.2, I think having your OS and primary programs on the M.2 makes for an extremely fast and responsive system, but there's not that much difference between them ( unless of course one is writing multi GB files on a regular basis) if you're used to HDD times both will feel lightning fast.

    • @t-dontcap1896
      @t-dontcap1896 Před 2 lety

      Will this help losing textures in any game I’m playing sometimes playing online map takes forever to load

    • @45eno
      @45eno Před 2 lety +2

      @@t-dontcap1896 A good quality sata SSD will perform almost equally to a faster M2 NVME drive at this moment in time when it comes to game loading. The game loading software is not in place to take full advantage of the speeds coming from a NVMe drive. But with prices sometimes very close it makes sense to buy NVMe drives because at some point the software and developers will take more advantage of modern storage drives. I own 6 nvme drives and they load games just like the systems I have with sata SSD. The only time you really get to dig into the speed increase is transferring files between two modern drives. The jump from HDD to sata SSD is huge, the jump from sata SSD to NVMe Gen3 or 4 for game loading is next to no noticeable difference. But if prices are similar just buy the NVMe. If your system doesn't support it buy a $10 adapter card which likely won't run at full speed but at least down the road you can drop the drive into a modern board and run full speed then compared to a sata ssd that won't be any faster in a modern system.

  • @amelia3987
    @amelia3987 Před 2 lety

    I watch a lot of your videos and I should've subscribed a while ago, but the cat really did it for me. Subscribed.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      The cat is the true star of the channel (;
      Thanks for the sub!

  • @teyo_gh
    @teyo_gh Před 2 lety

    I had to pause midway just to give you a like. Very fast and informative video good job.

  • @4dimensionen996
    @4dimensionen996 Před 2 lety +8

    wow this video would have saved me a lot of time and effort when i built my pc, you really covered everything 😮👏

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      We sure tried! Thank you for the feedback, it means a lot. (:

  • @DesuVR
    @DesuVR Před 2 lety +64

    One little detail that would've made this video perfect: M.2 SATA SSDs have a different key/connector than NVMe ones and for some reason, nearly every tech channel I know fails to point this out. The first time I bought an M.2 drive, I was unaware of this and picked up a SATA-based one instead of NVMe. I thought all 'M.2' drives were the same at the time.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +14

      I know what a bummer that is! I do talk about Sata drives coming as M.2 in the video and tried to make that clear (:

    • @MrOgger151
      @MrOgger151 Před 2 lety

      M-key B-key Some NVME slots have both.

    • @plastifiedmetal5682
      @plastifiedmetal5682 Před 2 lety +2

      2:34 it was pointed out wasnt it?

    • @DesuVR
      @DesuVR Před 2 lety

      @@plastifiedmetal5682 Pointed out with a picture is what I meant, should've made that a bit clearer in my comment.

    • @MrOgger151
      @MrOgger151 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DesuVR It can get confusing. Because of the whole b key m key b + m key and PCIe-based with NVMe support, or PCIe-based without NVMe support or SATA. You just have to read the specs really good. Some PCIe=NVMe-M.2 will also do SATA. I don't know how accurate this is "If you look at your M2 interface on your Motherboard and you see a single notch ONLY for the M Key, then it will support both NVME and SATA M2 drives. Otherwise,If you see a notch for BOTH the M + B Key then it a SATA SSD storage Only slot". Best just read specs and manual really good.

  • @SebasTian-od7oz
    @SebasTian-od7oz Před 2 lety

    Wow, so much value and information literally "compressed" into one video. The detailed & great timestamps are the cherry on top!

  • @elysianblaze3272
    @elysianblaze3272 Před 2 lety

    Nice, simple, no frills approach to deliver needed info to anyone. Great job, keep it up.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      Appreciate the feedback! Thank you and glad you enjoyed

  • @oktc68
    @oktc68 Před 2 lety +12

    Great video Jason, thanks. I built my last rig about 18-24 months ago. I used a carefully selected group of components, I wanted the best bang for my buck (£) I opted for an M.2 NVMe (250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus) for the OS and associated programs, a 2TB WD blue SATA SSD & 1TB WD blue SATA SSD for my games library. I'm very happy with it. I think choosing components to work well together is often overlooked. Choosing the CPU/RAM/GPU is also critical, if done well it's my experience that you can equal the performance of the next tier up GPU (in a system where no consideration is given to how these components interact)

    • @Owen-np3wf
      @Owen-np3wf Před 2 lety

      The 970 evo plus ssd's are pretty damn cheap at the moment.

  • @dumpsterdiverspcreclamation

    Thank you for giving viewers the straight goods on SSDs. There's a lot of disinformation circulating on the net about SSDs and NVMe but what you're stating here is sound advice. Team Group T-Force is really coming ahead in the race over the years, not only in storage but in RAM as well. They're also generally more affordable bang for the buck wise than than the competition. I own many of the drives you recommended here and I've run benchmarks on them all so I know you're giving your audience the hard facts. Good job! :)

  • @jivekiwi
    @jivekiwi Před rokem

    Now i understand! Cheers mate, that was quite simple when you explained it, unlike the other vids i watched.

  • @damidushalinda183
    @damidushalinda183 Před 2 lety

    loved your channel after 4 mins watching. good and clear

  • @iAmAbsurd
    @iAmAbsurd Před 2 lety +6

    Great video, love the content. One thing to consider is the types of games you may be playing. To say absolutely no additional gaming performance is slightly disingenuous. Sure a blind test over at LTT where people 'feel' a certain drive is faster is valid, but it isn't the be all end all. If its faster, it's faster and if you frequently play games that load constantly and can potentially save you dramatic lengths of time over a long play session that is a huge advantage and allows you to better spend your hobby time. Path of Exile, loading into maps portals over and over again, loading out into your hideout then back into a new map portal. Lost Ark, loading into dungeons, loading back into the world, traveling from gate to gate. CRPGs in which saving before a fight that you fail or would like to perform better at, then loading that game you saved only to screw up the very first turn and have to load it again. Just a few seconds off every load time can save you dramatic amounts of time over a 4, 6, 8 etc hour gaming session with said game. Just something to consider when planning a build like I currently am. Obviously these are all games that I play and am taking into consideration before I buy.. 980 Evo Pro here I come ^_^

    • @ScrewFearMe
      @ScrewFearMe Před 2 lety

      Don't get the 500gb one, get the 1tb or 2tb ones, you loose speed on the 500gb one :(

  • @jslade7959
    @jslade7959 Před 2 lety +9

    Dude your awesome…! Best videos on YT breaking it down so the common person can understand and make educated decisions when building or upgrading! Keep it up and much appreciated!

  • @bigmikegaming1583
    @bigmikegaming1583 Před 2 lety

    Im glad i found this channel. I’m new to the pc gaming community and am looking to build my first gaming setup soon. I’m currently using a prebuilt for the time being. Can’t wait.
    Love ur channel man. Very informative and very good with explaining the parts and whatnot. Also very easy to follow. I like how you reference other Channels as well

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      Welcome to the channel and to pc gaming! Glad we can help and best of luck with your first build!

  • @mosphaerae
    @mosphaerae Před rokem

    Really appreciate videos like these, i just ignore the hand gestures but hella informative for smooth brains like me

  • @fuckjoebiden
    @fuckjoebiden Před 2 lety +3

    dram cache is not just for writes, it also stores the physical location of files so you can read with less latency. without dram it's stored on the flash so you'd have the latency of reading the map and then reading the data

  • @Imevul
    @Imevul Před 2 lety +5

    I suspect that game performance will be more impacted for certain games. For example modded minecraft, where chunk saving/loading is happening all the time as you move around in the game at high speeds. It's not just a one-time load and then you can play that entire map. It happens continously as you move around.

  • @ItZMaxo
    @ItZMaxo Před rokem

    I wanted to say thanks you for your video, very educative !

  • @mikea1785
    @mikea1785 Před rokem

    Jason! I love your channel always come to you when I need a recommendation! Thank you for all your Info and hard work!

  • @tech_jims
    @tech_jims Před 2 lety +4

    Was getting withdrawal waiting for the next video 🤣 great video Jason and that m27q working out pretty sick didn't even know it had kvm so big bonus 🤔🤣

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      Bringing the good stuff today!! :-)
      It's not a video until Jim is in the house! Glad you are enjoying the M27Q!

    • @tech_jims
      @tech_jims Před 2 lety +1

      @@PCBuilderChannel haha great guide on the ssds pal you seen they recalled the fractal torrent due to fan controller shorting dam had my eye on one of them 😢 you have a great weekend buddy all the best as ever from the uk 🙂

  • @TheReterded
    @TheReterded Před 2 lety +13

    I hope to see a follow up to this in a few months when windows 11 and direst storage come out. You mentioned upgrading to prosumer SSD won't net much gaming performance but I wondering if direct storage will change than in the coming months.

    • @MrAlexander100
      @MrAlexander100 Před 2 lety

      Exactly! I want to purchase an ssd as my WD Blue is starting to die. Pci e 4 will be useful for direct storage, but by how much ? Will it be worth the price difference ? Also it will be a while before see AAA games take full advantage of Direct storage. While pci e 3 is cheaper and for traditional gaming there will be no difference. I dont know which protocol to choose.

  • @g.waits4gainz205
    @g.waits4gainz205 Před 7 měsíci

    cheers from 2023 cause this is sstill such generically accurate questions, love the 2023 vid to othanks!

  • @Chaney1man
    @Chaney1man Před 2 lety

    Firstly this was an awesome video. Secondly: I got a PC build a couple years ago and haven't looked back. Completely forgot I had an SSD in it and then moved a game to it. I tried to just copy it over at first, but then I deleted it all and just re-downloaded it onto the SSD directly. I noticed in one of my games, after moving it to the SSD, I was actually loading slower. The proof I have is prior to moving it, I loaded the game faster than my friend, but after he started loading faster than I.

  • @SoCalMisfit712
    @SoCalMisfit712 Před 2 lety +10

    I haven’t personally felt the speed difference between the ssd drives, like m.2 to sata in game loading times. I have loaded games off of a hdd and the load time is slower. Significantly slower like 2-3 times. Like loading red dead redemption on xbox. I just got red dead yesterday and it loads way quicker off of the m.2 than on the Xbox, it’s pretty impressive. Might have to reinstall a game on my sata ssd drive just to see the comparison for myself. I do run the sn750 500gb for my gaming drive, and have a Samsung 870 1tb sata ssd for everything else. Besides my boot drive which is an m.2 but it is pretty small since I try to just have my os on it. I would definitely recommend if you can afford it to step up to 1tb when or if you can, 500gb will fill quickly with games. The next drive I buy will be a 1tb sn750 which will go in the next m.2 slot on my z590 ace mobo. What I don’t understand is sometimes programs will go directly to the c, drive and you can not choose for them to go anywhere else. Like I said I try to keep everything off of my c drive since it is dedicatedly my os, but some programs just won’t let you put them anywhere else.

  • @retrocny5625
    @retrocny5625 Před 2 lety +40

    For the last couple years or so, I've stuck mostly with WD Black 1TB NVME drives for the last few builds I've done. The first ones I bought were because newegg was running a sale on them and they were like $20 cheaper than normal retail price. For their spec and WD's reputation, I figured why not. It was the first time I had tried out WD's solid state drives. Since then, I've been very impressed with them in terms of speed and quality, and I've bought a couple more since then. All the ones I've used have gotten have pretty much matched their advertised speeds and I don't have a single complaint about them in any department really. I only have experience with their 1TB+ nvme drives though, so far. As it is right now, I'll probably stick with them for the foreseeable future.

    • @Swimant
      @Swimant Před 2 lety +4

      I just bought a Wester Digital Black 500 as a replacement for my laptop SSD. but the thing keeps crashing. Fesh windows install and worked great for 3 days then it will boot run for 2-5 min then windows locks and a crash report and a message that the boot installer cant be found. Its weird because it has already booted and is running!
      I may have to send the drive back and try a different one. :-/

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 Před 2 lety +1

      I have an SN750 3.0 and a 980 Pro 4.0. I think the only other drive I'd want is a Hynix Gold 3.0 drive. I've been trying to move away from WD because they feel unnecessarily janky sometimes and the competition is strong.

    • @Mangomaniac
      @Mangomaniac Před rokem +3

      Was thinking about getting 2 SSDs - One would be a 500gb boot drive (not sure if this amount is necessary) - and then my main SSD would be a 2TB drive. Wouldn't mind just having my Windows being booted on my main 2TB drive but im not sure if that impacts performance whatsoever. I'm unsure which brands to go for and what to get so some tips would be really helpful!

    • @Hervinbalfour
      @Hervinbalfour Před rokem

      ​@@deViant14Hynix offers zero support for their products. I hope you went with another brand.

  • @airbornesnow4541
    @airbornesnow4541 Před rokem

    your vids are presented in such a clear and concise manner. keep up the good work!

  • @Jp-gc6bh
    @Jp-gc6bh Před 2 lety +3

    I’m still on sata, I’ve built PCs for my friends recently so they all got nvmes, I can’t tell the difference honestly. Boot times though are noticeable other than that it feels the same to me. And our rigs give a good all around test because one has a 1660ti with a 3700x, the other has a 3080 and a 5900x and I have a 2080 and 9900k. All systems are different in power and specs so it was cool to see how a nvme does on a faster pc than mine and a slower one
    We all use Samsung pros, my friend has a 970, the other a 980 and I have 860s. Samsung is usually the most expensive, I have Kingston in my old 2012 Mac Pro and it’s amazing but I can tell the speed difference from that and my Samsung. Personally we like good brand drives but any drive works.

  • @sedory
    @sedory Před 2 lety +62

    In games with inline loading (fallout, cyberpunk, etc) as you move across the maps, the faster SSDs are a godsend. Many current games use the mechanism for loading, vs the more traditional load a level once and be done method.

    • @alfredoalejandro87
      @alfredoalejandro87 Před 2 lety +3

      Thats true, but even NVMe drives are useless when it comes to certain game engines. Take Unreal Engine 4/5. These engines are terrible due to constant texture and data streaming, leading to stutters and just janky gameplay. Even Digital Foundry has noticed this issue and we all hope this can be sorted out sooner rather than later. I myself think SSD drives are amazing and most games benefit (as you said Fallout, Cyberpunk).

    • @MyshKatze
      @MyshKatze Před 2 lety +4

      it makes almost no difference if you have a NVMe or a SATA III when comparing loading times

    • @wiisportsmatt9775
      @wiisportsmatt9775 Před 2 lety +2

      So thats why my 3yr old disk spikes to 100% usage when playing Cyberpunk😲

    • @ik1llpeeple4fun
      @ik1llpeeple4fun Před 2 lety

      @@MyshKatze but it can possibly improve texture streaming....

    • @scowi3
      @scowi3 Před rokem

      Fast NVMe drives are not necessarily helpful in this regard though due to the low power states they go into. Coming out of these states to load something involves a delay that can make these drives perform slower than a SATA drive. Some NVMe drives have a gaming mode to disable these low power states and avoid those delays, like WD's Black series, which you can enable with it's Dashboard software (won't work with their 'Blue'/'Red' series). Samsung's retail NVMe drives can do it too - it's called Full Power mode in Samsung's Magician software (won't work with OEM drives). I think those are the only two brands that offer this option. Overheating may be a concern with these modes though, especially with the more power hungry drives like the WD's SN850 - I imagine a heatsink would be a must with that. The more recent SN770 would probably be more ideal for running Gaming Mode as it is uses much less power.

  • @pumafume
    @pumafume Před 2 lety

    Hugely helpful! I was so lost before watching this video. Thank yoU~

  • @brianlindsey8822
    @brianlindsey8822 Před rokem

    I love your videos. I custom build a new gaming pc every month. Your videos and other professional youtube videos help me thru the years to become AAA+++ certified. Your videos teach me a lot. Thanks.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem

      That's so great to hear! Congrats on being AAA+++ certified and so glad we could help! Hope you keep enjoying the content.

  • @smarticulate
    @smarticulate Před 2 lety +15

    Straight to the point, and a classic sense of the "sell" that comes with this kind of video platform. Stay classy, and do you man. Helped my ADHD ass learn things I previously had trouble focusing on. Much appreciated

  • @thecomputersurgeon
    @thecomputersurgeon Před 2 lety +5

    Jason, your content is very refreshing. I almost always find myself agreeing with your recommendations. As someone that builds and sells systems for a living myself, I can tell you also have that real life experience
    PCIe 4 SSDs are a massive waste of money for 99% of users as storage is rarely the bottleneck, in any scenario. Even Davinci Resolve for example has basically no performance difference between Gen 3 and 4. You're more likely to be CPU or codec limited. And in gaming, don't get me started! Could have spent that extra money on a GPU/CPU/monitor/mouse, all of which would provide a much greater impact to experience. I think a lot of this buying habit is to do with all the media/YT coverage that PCIe 4 gets
    Gamers should prioritise storage capacity over speed. Keep up the good work!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! So much garbage marketing to combat!

    • @thecomputersurgeon
      @thecomputersurgeon Před 2 lety

      @Casix03 not even useful as a boot drive imo

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety

      Generally, latency is the gamers most negative obstacle to overcome with speeds. Most of that comes from several areas such as the mouse, keyboard, hard drive etc. Not typically a CPU or RAM if you have an average gamers setup to start with. What does effect speeds mostly are the hard drives and moving up to an SSD or NVMe storage device is the best money spent to improve latency and speed. Video cards have a little to do with it too however, the big upgrade would be moving from an HDD to solid state storage is much more value than going from a $400 video card to one that costs $900. PCIex3 vs. PCIex4 is twice as fast in the real world...is it worth the upgrade? Yes but not for the value, not until gen 4 NVMe storage comes down in prices but they will provide a noticeable speed enhancement in latency and they will move data quicker than PCIe 3.0. When you can boot up Win11 from off to seeing your desktop in 7 to 8 seconds, NVMe 4.0 is amazingly quick.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety

      @Casix03 Agreed or...NAS set up for file sharing.

    • @Sims64340
      @Sims64340 Před 2 lety

      That's true, there is not even 1 sec difference between a SATA at 550 Mo/s and a NVME gen 4.0 at 10 Go/s (gaming usage)

  • @cpfb68
    @cpfb68 Před rokem

    Have been jumping from video to video enjoying your detailed explanations of all the devices and your choices in the market. Thanks for sharing all of the great information! I’ve been sending people that constantly ask me what they need for a new build to your vids to learn the choices they have. Easy to understand, quickly explained with good detail and the personal choices with cost and performance in mind are spot on. Thanks!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem

      Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! We truly appreciate it.

  • @jg5275
    @jg5275 Před 2 lety +1

    It is incredible how much useful information you managed to provide within 20 minutes. Well done is a deep understatement. Lots of high quality information. Thank you from us all.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +1

      So glad it was useful! Thank you for the feedback it means a lot to us.

  • @theoriginaljealot5946
    @theoriginaljealot5946 Před rokem +5

    Great video! At the same time, I want to chime in that there are certain types of games where you will net significant performance increases, not necessarily in raw, or average FPS, but can net notable increases in EFPS by reducing stutter caused by progressive loading of scenes in games where the framerates pause or stutter during loading of certain assets, especially player-created assets (but not necessarily limited to player-created assets). In any case, still a great video!

  • @Enakaji
    @Enakaji Před 2 lety +9

    there are actually allready some games that basically require an SSD to function correctly and will show some strange behavior on normal HDD, so we are allready crossing over into the teritory of games not only loading considerably faster. Two examples for this would be Cyberpunk 2077 and Star Citizen, both of these games are constantly streaming in new data while playing and a normal HDD simply can't keep up with that so you get things like constant stuttering, textures and levelgeometry loading in too slow or not at all and other things that at first might seem like Bugs in the games code but are simply caused by the game not beeing able to stream in data fast enough due to too slow storage drives beeing used.

    • @Slav4o911
      @Slav4o911 Před 2 lety +2

      Baldurs Gate 3 will also behave very bad on an HDD, to the point it's almost unplayable.

    • @dragon501000
      @dragon501000 Před 2 lety

      Super People, PUBG's successor requires a SSD to take the settings to Ultra they state that, If like me who still uses HDD with a 3070, the Ultra setting is greyed out.

  • @xxVanos
    @xxVanos Před rokem

    I can't believe that this channel has only just come under my recommended list.
    Love the plethora of information you bring! I've subbed. 🥰🥳

    • @xxVanos
      @xxVanos Před rokem

      + the cat. I had to sub at that point. Haha.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před rokem

      So glad you found us! Thank you for the sub (the cat approves) and hope you keep enjoying the content!

  • @erickleon3631
    @erickleon3631 Před 2 lety

    I just found your channel a couple days ago. Subbed for sure. Videos are hella informative and in depth. Good shit. Should be a 1 mil plus channel. You’ll def get there.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for the sub! So glad you are enjoying the content!

  • @canobix
    @canobix Před 2 lety +4

    Just a note from my own experience about PCI M.2 cards - if your motherboard does not have an M.2 slot and you decide to use such a card, make sure you will be able to boot off of it - you might find some older boards do not support it.

    • @philipph.6001
      @philipph.6001 Před 2 lety

      I have a old system with a Intel z77. It was a very interesting journey to modify the BIOS with Tools to merge different BIOS versions to get a support of the nvme card.

  • @Its-Just-Zip
    @Its-Just-Zip Před 2 lety +4

    Small shout-out for U.2 drives if you have a header on your board for them, it's basically NVME but used in the data center and you can get really cheap, high capacity "used" drives that are still under warranty when data centers do upgrades. Also more often than not they report near or at 100% in a smart report.
    More expensive motherboards often have 1 or 2 ports for U.2 drives

    • @spaghebbio
      @spaghebbio Před 2 lety

      Where can you get them?

    • @weavercs4014
      @weavercs4014 Před 2 lety

      U.2 is about 2x the price of m.2 nVME and is half the speed of gen 4 nVME

    • @Its-Just-Zip
      @Its-Just-Zip Před 2 lety

      @@spaghebbio ebay fairly regularly. Look out for large drops of drives that are still under warranty when companies like Facebook or Amazon do data center upgrades.

    • @Its-Just-Zip
      @Its-Just-Zip Před 2 lety

      @@weavercs4014 indeed it is slower but it can be MUCH cheaper when purchased used when data centers do upgrades. Most of these drives are still in extremely good shape and will have 90+% of their life left. You can usually buy them in batches direct from the data center or from a recycler for less than a normal SATA drive

    • @weavercs4014
      @weavercs4014 Před 2 lety

      @@Its-Just-Zip look I'd love to have one, but I legit can't find any that aren't £200 per TB. You got some links? To give you an idea, the cheapest used u.2 in the UK is a 1.2tb Intel p3500 for £200. That's more expensive than a gen 4 drive and this is only gen 3

  • @karl9791
    @karl9791 Před 2 lety

    This is the kind of content for who want a good technical and didactical information. nothing of colorful and nonsense youtuber stuff. just technical info and some comentaries. Well done.

  • @psytechs
    @psytechs Před 2 lety

    Very good video. You have answered all of my questions.

  • @thepoliticalstartrek
    @thepoliticalstartrek Před 2 lety +27

    In general the sweet place for price is 1600MBs NVMe. Once you get over that you run into greatly dimished. I personally go 3000MBs due to those slightly better longevity. HDD do have one major advantage over SSDs. They can be used for unpowered data storage so if you need to archive offline do not use SSDs. They can lose data at around 6 months of being powered off.

    • @d0m2288
      @d0m2288 Před 2 lety +2

      I actually wasn't aware of that particular difference between hdd and ssd. Thanks for mentioning it.

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek Před 2 lety

      @@d0m2288 When SSDs first came out sime started corrupting in less than 3 months. If taken out or in an unplugged computer..

    • @jstenberg3192
      @jstenberg3192 Před 2 lety +1

      Yikes! I thought they lasted forever like a thumb drive.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Před 2 lety

      Im not sure why but my x570 aorus elite mobo is always powered since by usb hub is powered on. Maybe that's due to ultra fast boot time setting?

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek Před 2 lety

      @@Vysair As long at the power switch on the back of the power supply is not turned off or unplugged. You always get a very tiny amount of trickle voltage. This is enough to get the cell resfresh circuits the ability to keep a charge.

  • @Bob_Cratchit
    @Bob_Cratchit Před 2 lety +8

    I got my 2 tb Samsung 980 Pro for $330 USD on sale, which was the same price as the better 2 tb 3.0 nvme drives at the time. I see them on sale fairly regularly.

    • @ivo3598
      @ivo3598 Před 2 lety

      Its awesome drive i have same one too its best u can get for bootdrive this kind of drive i would only use for booting drive and main drive! For other data and other less played games i use basic SATA SSD 2TB. I dont use any HDD at all from 2019. Only external HDD drives and flashdrives.

    • @dennisgreiwe2078
      @dennisgreiwe2078 Před 2 lety

      Where did your find it for 330? Lowest I've seen is 369.00. This is the c: drive I want to get for my wife's editing PC. Her pc is pretty much maxed out with hardware that is pcie 3.0, and to begin the trek to pcie 4.0, we plan on starting with a hard drive upgrade that will work on our 3.0 pcie mobo so that our HD is ready for a mobo that is pcie 4.0 when we upgrade that later. I couldn't justify spending 419.00 msrp for this drive but it's closing in on a reasonable price that I'm willing/able to pay. Which is around 350.00 (dont ask where that dollar limit came from, I think it's just my head telling me not to spend that kind of money on a boot drive.)

  • @ibarzabal
    @ibarzabal Před 2 lety

    I have to thank the algorithm to have suggested your video. I did not know your channel and I am slowly updating myself to the "new" tech, so i can upgrade my pc
    You video is EXTREMELLY valuable, thank you so much. Subbed and will check the other videos, really like the content.

  • @vonnkimuelcortez208
    @vonnkimuelcortez208 Před 2 lety

    You bro! I'm having a problem in deciding what to buy with my motherboard... Good thing I saw your video and made me realize what is worth on my budget... that made me subscribe because your explanation is straightforward (simple and chill) ... Thanks for this great video... hope your channel Grow more!

  • @juliashenandoah3965
    @juliashenandoah3965 Před 2 lety +3

    Using NVMe drives only was the best thing EVER! :) When modding games and shoveling 10 or even 50 gigabytes of HD textures and other huge files rar´s and folders around on the computer it takes only seconds to copy and the transfer rate is never under 300-500MB/sec. (Remember when the same task took two hours with mechanical drives, or the whole afternoon and half of the night with USB drives?) The Corsair Force MP600 1TB is still one of the fastest NVMe drives around, and the other one is a great budget solution because the second NVMe slot has no PCI 4.0: The classic Samsung Evo with 1 TB. I hope future mainboards will support 4 or even 6 NVMe drive slots and have enough space for big coolers like the Raid Sonic Icy Box IB-M2HSF-702 which is the best of the best for M.2 cooling.
    NVMe was the biggest performance leap forward in computer technology. No more endless slooooooooow and boooooooring data transfers blocking the whole computer with hours and hours of never-ending copy and paste tasks!

  • @jvazquez53
    @jvazquez53 Před rokem +7

    In my case, the price difference between the PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 was $10 difference. I went with the 4.0 because if later I decide to upgrade to a newer PC, I can use its full potential.

    • @Nokiya
      @Nokiya Před rokem +1

      yea the price is down very much right now
      970 evo plus vs 980 pro is like 20$; and performance difference in some cases is up to 20-30% from what I gather

    • @zayn3296
      @zayn3296 Před rokem +1

      Did you face any slow speed or compatibility issues?

    • @emmanuel9546
      @emmanuel9546 Před rokem

      At what speeds the gen 4 is running in your gen 3 system???

    • @loganricherson3749
      @loganricherson3749 Před rokem

      ​@@zayn3296 pcie gen 4 drives are fully compatible with gen 3, though it'll be at the slower speed due to being gen 3. You should have no compatibility issues arising from choosing one or the other

  • @wilfang
    @wilfang Před 8 měsíci

    Jason. You are the best. I love the way you explain and details you do. Amazing job. I have to say for some reason I tend to pay more attention to people that make gestures with their hands, I think that's when they are really trying to give the more precise information, and you are a pro, big hug.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you so much, so glad that you're able to get so much out of them! Hope you keep enjoying all the content :)

  • @leventakn6448
    @leventakn6448 Před 2 lety

    WOW! Absolutely a great video! Thanks!

  • @aronsingletary
    @aronsingletary Před 2 lety +4

    One important thing to know about SSD is that it has a defined endurance rating which means it's a consumable. There is also a belief that SSD is just as likely to fail and cause data loss as a CMR hard drive. Tech Notice does a good review of this but I think you cover it by saying it's for gaming which doesn't do a lot of writing.

    • @FuturePerfectEnglish
      @FuturePerfectEnglish Před rokem

      Some consumables, like grinding disks, gradually wear while others, like drill bits, suddenly break. HDDs are among those suddenly breaking.

    • @aronsingletary
      @aronsingletary Před 10 měsíci

      @@FuturePerfectEnglish if you say so. I have had many drill bits wear out and not break just as I have had CMR HDDs start to produce bad sectors and slowly corrupt data. SSDs on the other hand seem to like to just die, probably equivalent to the PCB shorting on a HDD.

  • @CornFed_3
    @CornFed_3 Před 2 lety +22

    I personally use SN850s (PCIe 4.0) due to their speeds. The prices aren’t bad for what you get and my back up option is Rocket 4 Plus. I have a higher end system and have tried to stick primarily to fast M.2 drives as I have 3 slots on my board for them.

    • @jordanstills5547
      @jordanstills5547 Před 2 lety

      I went with this one as well because it was on sale and was actually cheaper than a lot of the 3.0 drives! Especially compared to Samsung ones. Figured it would make it where I didn’t have to upgrade for a long time.

    • @45eno
      @45eno Před 2 lety

      Sad though that our fast drives are barely better than good ssd’s for game loading. When direct storage is a reality maybe we will finally benefit from buying these fast on paper drives. They do reduce clutter and are faster for certain tasks but gaming they are not utilized yet.
      And if anyone thinks I’m mistaken open task manager on another screen while your games are loading up.

    • @dre9973
      @dre9973 Před 2 lety

      Did you buy the heatsink variant?

    • @CornFed_3
      @CornFed_3 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dre9973, no, just the M.2 drive. My board has heat sinks on it.

    • @LoLitsJerry
      @LoLitsJerry Před 2 lety

      Samesies

  • @Desiderium
    @Desiderium Před 2 lety

    This was deeply informative with no bullshit. Subscribed.

  • @skullwac
    @skullwac Před rokem +2

    Hat's off to you for checking the ssds regularly

  • @joshuascholar3220
    @joshuascholar3220 Před 2 lety +3

    I noticed some large differences in the hardware and (in an usual use case) performance of two SSDs I just bought:
    1. a 2 tb nvme pcie 3 with a dram cache vs.
    2. a 2 tb SATA SSD, no cache.
    Both claiming to be TLC drives.
    The NVME drive takes up two sides of a board covered with chips.
    The SATA is literally two small chips. And nothing else.
    The killer use case was encrypting cloned drives with bitlocker.
    The NVMe encrypted at an even speed of about 340 MB/s and finished quickly.l
    The SATA drive started out about 170 MB/s but then dropped down to about 17 MB/s with a speed up to 60 MB/s for a short time every 10 seconds or so.
    I noticed it was hot and put a heat sink on it - that only sped it up to 21 MB/s with a short burst of full speed 200 MB/s every 10 seconds. Still very very slow.
    So a couple hours or so into the sata drive taking forever to encrypt I told it to back out of the encryption. That took it another couple hours.
    But after decrypting it was back to measuring normally and copying data quickly.
    It seems like, with no cache, it just can't handle being asked to read then write at the same time as fast as possible.
    Testing the disk DURING the decryption had it running insanely slowly. It couldn't just do some decryption in the background and run crystal disk in the forground.

    • @krisspkriss
      @krisspkriss Před rokem

      I use a Asus Hyper m.2 X16 card with four NVME in Raid (striped and mirrored). It has a fan and heatsink. It has some pretty decent micro op times and insane throughput when benchmarked. The only gaming difference I really see is in texture popins being decreased to non-existent. On professional workloads though, they do pretty good as a scratch drive with pretty high and sustainable reads and writes. Spreading out the workload across multiple drives plus the active heat displacement helps a lot.

  • @stevenhernandez5667
    @stevenhernandez5667 Před 2 lety +27

    I'm surprised you didn't recommend the SK Hynix Gold P31. It had better thermals then Samsung 970 Evo Plus and WD Black 750. Similar performance to both, although I can't say if it's better than the Samsung 970 Evo Plus since I can't personally test to make comparisons but from other benchmarks they both perform about the same. It's also pretty cheap considering there's always a 15% coupon available for it on Amazon making it cheaper then both WD Black 750 and Samsung 970 Evo Plus

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah I missed the 15% off coupon on Amazon. Great drive but getting close to the cheaper PCIE 4.0 drives at that point. But with the discount certainly worth it right now.

    • @redrangerJ
      @redrangerJ Před 2 lety +1

      @@PCBuilderChannel it’s pretty regularly available at $108 or so. That 10-15% coupon pops up once a month it seems like.

    • @brianlam5847
      @brianlam5847 Před 2 lety

      @@redrangerJ I mean I would just get a cheap pcie 4, for 12 bucks more. Some cheap PCIE 4 drives come in at like $0.09 cents per GB on sale, which make them the superior option in the long run. When software optimizes for faster drives and not hard drives, you will certainly feel the difference, (maybe some decades later lol).

    • @ovarb12
      @ovarb12 Před 2 lety

      Right on man! I'll take a Samsung or WD over xyz brand any day. Want a cheaper drive adata or kingston.

  • @kfloy88
    @kfloy88 Před 2 lety

    Great Video! By far the most informative and practical video on hard drives I have come across.

  • @WeirdViking
    @WeirdViking Před 2 lety

    I'm just gonna echo everyone else's sentiment and really commend you for being able to make all this tech jargon sound understandable so that the average consumer can make smart choices. Great channel!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety

      Thanks so much and thanks for the feedback, it means a lot

  • @rahuloberoi9739
    @rahuloberoi9739 Před 2 lety +160

    I don't think there's anything bad in using HDDs as a mass storage option for storing games, large files etc. They are a lot cheaper and hence provide the most storage per dollar. If you are ready to wait for your game to load (so that you can have your glass of coffee or have a piss lol), there's nothing bad in buying these specially for the ones who have a strict budget. Though these should be avoided for storing the OS. And yes, always go for 7200rpm drives instead of 5400rpm even if they cost a bit more.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Před 2 lety +63

      Maybe this wasn't as clear as it could have been in the video: I'm fine for using HDD's for cold storage, just do not recommend them for boot or to load games.

    • @akakerness6396
      @akakerness6396 Před 2 lety +43

      Let the HDD die. Yes it's cheaper but running your Pc while loading a game or booting wastes energy. Maybe 20-60 seconds seems like is not much but it adds up.
      Also, HDD have failed me with the 100% usage error and makes a pc slow overall.

    • @sinisa5567
      @sinisa5567 Před 2 lety +23

      @@akakerness6396 Also noise

    • @Hjorth87
      @Hjorth87 Před 2 lety +11

      I actually chose a 5400rpm drive when I built my pc back in 2014. Due to me going for as quiet a build as possible. I try to limit the mechanical noise so next time I'll probably pony up and go pure ssd

    • @bobbob9821
      @bobbob9821 Před 2 lety +14

      Depends on the game. Having an SSD can minimize loading stutter in open world games for example.

  • @auntiepha8343
    @auntiepha8343 Před 2 lety +3

    👍Great SSD video! PC Builder is making some really well thought out PC component videos! 🏆
    Edit: I have 2 Team Force Delta 500GB SSD's! I LOL'd when I saw them in the video!
    you are 100% right because I bought them just because they look so freaking cool!!

  • @anthonyweibel
    @anthonyweibel Před 2 lety

    Wow, you did a great job throwing out a huge amount of info in a short time, but making it very understandable. I just subscribed and am looking forward to more of your videos.

  • @kirbywinters1291
    @kirbywinters1291 Před 2 lety

    This definitely helped me learn the difference between these drives and which one will work with my gaming laptop

  • @wvjeepguy8178
    @wvjeepguy8178 Před rokem +3

    I've been using the same sata m.2 for a few years now, currently in it's 3rd build. Works great and I've never found a reason to upgrade.
    I do need to correct you on an issue, though. Some games do benefit greatly while playing when using an SSD over a HDD. Diablo 3 is a great example. The SSD offers a constant, smooth gaming experience. A HDD will constantly cause the game to stutter as enemies spawn by the dozen every second.

  • @dougkeyes4406
    @dougkeyes4406 Před 2 lety +3

    I've had hard drives for almost 15-20 years and their Fitness and smart values are fine we shall see if ssds can last 20 years

    • @ModItBetter
      @ModItBetter Před 2 lety

      Same I actually have one 18 year old computer running windows xp for every door / window / gate / doorbell sensors spitting out a female voice(pre alexa!?) running 24 hours a day as above 18 years going on 19.. lol.. I know i could do the same thing with a arduino and a mp3 module now .. but blah my hardware and coding has been flawless this long....wait till it dies .. you would think it would of seized up by now....

    • @kieragard
      @kieragard Před 2 lety

      Ssds do go bad but a lot less frequently. It's mainly from the construction. Hdd have moving parts and if any of those parts fail the hdd is dead.

    • @dougkeyes4406
      @dougkeyes4406 Před 2 lety

      @@ModItBetter mercury is amazing