It's EASY to spend too much on PC parts... Here's where to save money!
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2020
- Don't overspend on your next PC build! Today we take a look at some common areas people tend to overspend and ways that you can save money on your next upgrade or build.
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Actually "Out Of Stock" is saving me so much money!
@@yournan7249 why dude
@@Abhyuday_rai why what
@@yournan7249 like why you don't care about india
@@Abhyuday_rai scammers
@@yournan7249 seriously why
First time in my life I want to and am financially able to have a nice gaming PC. Problem is you can't buy anything right now. Kind of f*ing sad...
same bro, in the exact same position :(
I was able to get a 3060 ti by lining up at microcenter about 2 hours before opening on a truck delivery day.
Also for cpu you can get the ryzen 5 3600 and you'll be just fine, no need to get a newer cpu. Its always in stock too.
Yup, what pisses me off the most is that shops keep putting up products that are out off stock
Gef Tep I just ordered my first part to my first pc ever. It was the ryzen 5 3600. Also getting the b450 tomahawk max as my mobo. Now to try to find a 300 ish GPU that’s runs all the games I want!
Only thing you missed is that blue lights make your computer run cooler, red lights make it go faster, while green are a compromise between the two.
green is more energy efficient
Ah! Fellow large Ork! Don’t forget, purple make boxen stelthy!
@Raiyan Woosh
What about White and Purple?
Making it red makes it go x3 times faster, hope you get the reference.
A 2023 version of this would be great.
All these 2020-2021 PC building videos are like "everything's sold out, get what you can, good luck"
Lol yeah
😂 yeah. Crazy how people buy with speed of light
kids when online school started: yes dad I do need a GeForce RTX 3080 to run zoom
Turn on ray tracing to see their faces better
u joke but i'm on an old mobile A9 and zoom runs better than chrome with multiple tabs ;)
I realized i needed a better setup when i was getting 11 fps in class :(
24 gb of VRam to make sure it will render well.
Yes dad, I will carry my PC tower, monitor and all cables to school every day. Battery? Eh, what is battery?
It's pretty hard to overspend on PC parts when nothing's in stock.
And when gpus are 650 plus when they use to be 280
1030 is in stock LMAO
Amen to that. Resorted to retrofitting a dell xps 630i XFX black series with an amd 3+ sabertooth 990gx v2 using old vapor-x Radeon HD 5870s bc I couldn’t get an am4 processor within a couple weeks without paying nearly double MSRP. I hat a racket
Ebay
@@mr.mysteriousyt6118 Nope, that's out of stock in my country right now. Only the 710 is available here.
0:25 CPUs
3:55 Motherboards
8:34 Memory
12:05 Graphics card
Please help me out! I am going to build my first PC for video editing. I ordered the following items.
AMD Ryzen 5950X 3.4 GHz 72MB
ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR
Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II - 360 C
PSU Corsair RM750 - 750W - 80+Gold - INET SI -
ASUS PCIe DUAL-RTX3060-O12G-V2
Fractal Design - Meshify 2 Compact Black Solid
Kingston NV1 M.2 NVMe SSD (2280) 1TB
Corsair 32GB (2K) DDR4 3600MHz DIMM Unbuffered
I think I am overspending on the motherboard och GPU cooling. As for the Graphics Card, maybe I should get the RTX 3070 instead? What do you thing? Please help me out.
@@iamnoone5564 I don't know jack about computers man, sorry
@@iamnoone5564 probably should've asked before buying
@@iamnoone5564 very solid build and the cpu and motherboard will go great with eachother but video editing and what ever your doing on a 3060 might be tight for doing alot of loads for designing graphics and such and such id reccomend a 3080 or 3070 dual sli
@@murkdh Thanks for the advice. Really appreciated. I am returning the 3060 and Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II. Am going for the 3080 and Noctua NH-D15 instead.
In my opinion, if someone is planning to be a PC builder and gamer in the long term, purchasing quality components to use again might matter. This means quality fans such as the ones from Noctua, or a good practical airflow case you may use in many builds. I ended up spending actually more by not doing so in the beginning.
aio if ur buying such QUALITY components...
@@GamesForNoobs I agree. I use an Arctic LF II 360. Works like a charm with NF-A12s. Pump PWM needs to be reduced just little bit from 100% to solve the VRM fan noise though.
@@thomasb282Obviously you won’t be noticing any benefits from case fans if you take the side panels off
Although if you’re just going to run them like that I suggest an open case, since buying a normal one just to take the panel off is wasteful
Totally agree with you on fans and cases, but beyond that, most of it is not going to be compatible going to the next gen anyway.
@@GamesForNoobs naw man, AIOs are really bad value, very costly to repair, and don't really give THAT much higher cooling than a good air cooler
Jay: "Assuming you can get your hands on it"
Narrator: "they could not get their hands on it"
Arrested Development vibe
I gave a buddy a rec what to buy for cyberpunk a couple of months ago, but I always said 'BUY GPU FIRST' - he still couldnt buy anything even close in the 7-800€ range. That's all insane at this point.
@@nayeemhaque1064 im in the middle of rewatching it right now 😂
this video is pointless if you have no money at all
@@slarkstyle1901 stop being poor then, buy bitcoin.
I didn’t buy fans to save money.
Edit: Didn’t know my computer had a built in fireplace
This is good. But buy marshmallows to cover you parts in case they get a little toasty
This comment made my day
Lol. Bruh
Dude sick! Mine is way too cold
I genuinely had a friend do this... it lasted two months and it burnt the wires while he was playing with me and it melted onto his motherboard
Pro tip for faster speeds: Open up the pc and unscrew your GPU and place a K&N sticker on the side to increase RPM to 6000
use rgb
I added an ebay turbocharger. Boost your fps to the moon.
I have 1 on each side of my case and I can affirm this claim.
Try using 91 octane
I prefer to slap a hemi sticker on it 😂
I would say one component I severely underestimated was the importance of the Hard Drive - if you have insane components with a HDD instead of an SSD, you will suffer big time on some games when it comes to LOD and textures popping in super late. Took me ages to solve that mystery when playing Kingdom Come Deliverance and an SSD fixed it immediately. Speedy storage actually does matter but again, I'm sure there's an art to spending appropriate vs ridiculous in the same vein as a motherboard.
this one is no brainer... who builds PC with HDD instead of SSD in last 3-4 years...
@@BrucePain-_- bulk storage? SSDs are still bad value for money when you need absolute volume, although far less so than it used to be. As for who'd need that much storage, audio/video recordings take up huge space. Let's calculate because I've got nothing better to do.
A 10 minute audio recording at 48kHz sample rate and 24 bit depth is over 86MB in mono, multiplied by amount of tracks you record which for drums is 10-20 microphones depending on size of kit and setup. A 10 minute recording project of drums is 860MB-1.6GB. If you also add a normal band setup with 2 guitars (each guitar doubled per industry standard), bass, and two vocals (usually also doubled), you're sitting at 19-30 tracks, at so 1.6-2-4GB per 10 minutes of recording.
4k60fps video recordings are also HUGE in size, at around 750MB per minute. A music video project for said 10 minute song in 4k60fps is at least 7.5GB in size. Usually it's at least double because of the recorded material that doesn't make the final cut.
Both cases disregard retakes which usually aren't deleted beforehand if at all either, and we're still talking minimum of 16.6GB in total for 10 minutes of finished product.
You abosolutelly need a SSD for your OS. Tho if you can afford, installing only SSDs is ideal.
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@@TheEmolano Or people can do both by using SSD for OS and gaming, while some HDDs for storage purposes. A bigger case and high w PSU will be needed though
Me who has no knowledge about computers: "I like your funny words magic man"
🤣 this me too
I love this comment
Same I have a ps4 and with that stimmy I trying to get a gaming pc 😂
Same🤣
Lel
I respectfully disagree Jay. There has never been quite a time like this, it's easy to save money on PC parts, everything is sold out.
well, on ebay...
@@lewislu8533 you gotta finish the sentence 🤣. An arm and a leg, and maybe a kidney lol
They had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
You mean if you can't buy! Then sure! It's free!
You had no idea why your saying
I upgraded to a 5600x last week and got a pretty good deal... I picked up a b550 Aorus master motherboard for a little over $100 US and the cpu for $290 US (this is converted from Australian dollars). I already had all the other parts including some fast 3200mhz cl16 ram. A pretty good deal given the price of computer components these days.
Nice! Happy building
Which website offers best prices for the CPU and GPU in Australia?
What was your previous CPU? Was the performance upgrade obvious? I have a Ryzen 7 3700X and might upgrade if it makes a big difference but my cpu is already pretty fast and never runs above 60%
Can u say which air/water cooler do u use? And how many fans ur cpu has?
@@BrisbaneviewI use scorptec
This is the second one of your videos that I have watched and already I'm a massive fan of your content. I've learnt more useful information from you in two short videos than months of watching similar tech channels that don't give anywhere near the same depth of detail and explanation of what things actually mean and represent. When I get paid I will take a paid subscription to this channel just if nothing else to show gratitude for what I have already watched. Looking forward to watching more from you.......all the way from the UK, very happy watcher :)
"I bought this RAM cuz it has 4400Mhz"
*doesn't know that he's playing at 2111Mhz from the default BIOS settings*
Lol
this is true AF 😂 people doesn't know it doesn't run at that speed on default. you need to enable XMP on the bios 😂
lmao wow. That's so painful we need to a PSA video with the Sarah McLachlan song.
When I built my 1st computer a few years back I bought 3600Mhz ram and didn't know about that. I went like 8 months before I knew that info. RIP
@@Darkhalo314 well at least lesson learned for you
I thought the most important part was the RGB fans?
yes, rgb makes hardware faster, thats just an objective fact
You telling me they aren't??
a r/woooosh is coming
I'll be the "No they're not the most important!!!!" guy! 😂
i couldnt handle being without lighting ... who spends 2k dollars on a pc and cant see anything in it...
Thanks for this man! I'm starting on my first build for PC. Don't want to overspend
Thank you. I just went and edited my lists based on your advice here, and after binging some of your other videos. You saved me a good chunk of money, and I was able to order everything (except for the gpu).
11:48 "Extra lights and things on here are always to increase the cost of RAM without changing the performance."
Amen.
Good for eyes, bad for budget LOL
Man I ain't never need no damn lights.
A very underrated comment.
Greta: HOW DARE YOU!
and awomen
Its pwitty colors! Ram lights up yay!
"CPU, graphics card, and memory are the easiest places to overspend." **Laughs in RGB**
ehm, did you watch the vid? It's mother boards and memory. not CPU and graphics cards..
damn bro really finna put a patent to an rgb cpu
@@facundex54 better be quick about it, there's research being done on cpus with built-in water cooling channels, only a matter of time before they RGB those.
My laptop rgb. My next laptop rbg - sold. What’s a cpu and gpu 🤣
Memory isn’t that expensive honestly, you don’t really need to get the huge brands, crucial ballistix is fine and cheap, has rgb and is 3200.
I'd love to see an updated version of this video for 2022. Struggling to decide on what parts to get for a value gaming pc.
Bro you are one of the best rational and real dudes to the core among many youtubers today,so precised in the way you explain and talk,such amazing mentality,thanks for explanation !
Here’s a tip
Remove the front plate of a rog strix gpu and spray paint it in white and you have successfully saved 150$
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sometimes my genius is..it's almost frightening
16gb of ram is the sweet spot, but 32gb looks good in the task manager
@@gagan4127 no it isn't you need 16 GB ram minimum
@@gagan4127 yea idk what games ur playing but ....
@@gagan4127 yea but gta is a good game but it’s kind of dated. Games like Rust and Cyberpunk are unplayable on 8 gigs
@@gagan4127 GTA 5 is a old game so it can run at 8gb no problem but th newer games need at least 16 GB ram
But 64 is just like. “Fuck it why not”-64 gb ram owner 2021
Everything you said was spot on! However, I got the crosshair dark hero for my 5600x build. Once I realized the dark hero didn't need a motherboard fan I was sold.
I don't upgrade my PC too often. I had 1x16gb ram in my PC for 5 years and it ran fine. Yes I recognized I'm a filthy casual, finally price for the same ram drop significantly and got a 2nd 16gb last year. I planned my build with future upgrades in mind. That allowed me to enjoy it a lot sooner.
"Get the highest tiered product you can afford in that category"
GT 1030, here we go boiiiis!!!
Laughs in gtx 760
@@arcador laughs in 710 with 1 gig of vram
It's not the worst ya know. I'm doing 4k editing lol
@@HuzaifaM123 and we have a winner
@@Flur-E_Fury I have a rtx 3080.
How to save money: Don't buy a case.
paperclip lands on motherboard
@@jameswiggle D:
Use a cardboard boxes
legit, tho, you can create your own case with little effort if you have some wood, a saw, and a drill. How fancy you go with it is totally up to you.
butter knife rattled across the mobo works fine... dont need a fancy power button
10:10
Yes I agree lmao, but I think the only possible exception is with intensive flight simulators like DCS world (2.7 specifically). While the recommended minimum is 16gb with 32 for heavy mission, I've found that 24 does me just fine. But if you do intensive stuff on flight sims, 32 is probably excusable.
I've been delaying buying a new computer for a long time, now I finally get financially comfortable to buy something really powerful and there's no parts available!
I need ray tracing for my zoom calls
Underrated comment
What does this even mean
Yes I need the super computer from NASA's liquidation sale to access my google classroom
Is this what you said to your mom? xD
@@PilotJohnSilver yup😂😂
Can't overspend on a gaming pc when I'm just window shopping 😂😭
What store has GPUs in the windows? Better head over there real quick 😅
I don't even buy windows
@@vitorvs me either. Linux for life!
Thats not what I meant, but ok
@@RobertSavello LMAO
Legit. Good information. Honestly keep teaching all of us. You mentioned why get into it about something in the video. My question is why not get into it. I'm sure no matter what video you do, as long as its informative, your followers will love.
10/10 vid Jay. I have an i5-9400f that was a fraction of the cost of any i7 or i9 lga1151 offerings and i never see my CPU max out anywhere near before my 2070 runs out of juice.
0:24 CPU
3:54 Mobo
8:32 RAM
12:02 GPU
Ty
@@AIlSystemsGo Np!🤘🏼
Ily
King
Dude didn’t really go over cpu. Really only advertised for amd
The fact that everything is suddenly 3-4 hundred more dollars than when this was made is what's stopping me😭
Exactly! Like suddenly since xmas all the graphics cards and cpu prices are through the roof!
In my country, I found a 1660 Super 700€ when it was 270€ at first! :/
im thinking of buying a 2060 for 700usd, I've waited too long and I dont wanna wait another year
@@DukeGibo it's almost $900 now. Smart decision
The issue is I don't think they're going to go down for at least a year or 2. No way they are going to lower prices when demand is through the roof.
your channel has helped me so much to be appropriate in my purchases per the individual i am building for....thanks for all the well explained content....super educational....loved your video on water coolers and placement as well...
Thanks for this video. I recently got into PC gaming and bought a pre built PC which came with some very decent and also not so decent conponents. I'm now looking to upgrade about half of them this upcoming summer and the more research I do, the more my estimated cost goes down (still meeting my standards, of course)
P.S. If any of you watching this video are debating wether to build your first PC or buy one pre built, 100% build your own. It is a bit intimidating, but it took me an afternoon to figure out all the basics. I bought mine as an impulse buy on black friday. I got my money's worth, but I didn't get all of what I wanted, which is the best that you can expect from a prebuilt imo.
An afternoon to learn to build a basic pc?? Lol. You had some “know-how” if you knew they needed to be upgraded. Coming from someone who knew nothing on the inside of a computer, it took about 2 weeks of intense learning to feel confident building a custom loop PC. It was probably like 50 hours of studying over those 2 weeks.
@@drblitz3092 Custom loop is completely different from an air-cooled PC. Air-cooled is not that hard
@@mikethompson7046 I didn’t know what a gpu,cpu, motherboard was. Didn’t know where to start. Or what gpu/motherboard/cpu model numbers meant. I was strictly a console gamer until 3 months ago. Ya took me 2 weeks of intense research for a complete newbie to understand most things.
Hey can one of you answer a really easy question
I want to build my own but one thing im confused about is what do i do about the OS?
Like if i buy a PRE-BUILT pc then windows comes already installed
But if i build my own from the ground up how do i get windows on there without having to buy it separately?
@Gorilla Pimp I already had a license key that came with my prebuilt. I know there are ways that you can get Windows license key pretty cheap. Just be careful where you get it from.
I have a USB boot drive, which is just a USB flash drive that has the OS on it that I can use to upload it onto a computer if I have to, but I'd still need the product key. There are guides online on how to do this, it's pretty simple. I'm just not that good at explaining things. I think you can use a product key from an old computer you don't use, even if it's not Windows 10 or 11. Just make sure it's deactivated on your old computer.
If you're only option is to buy a new product key, consider using Linux OS instead. It's a perfectly good OS. It is a bit daunting to download and use at first, but there are flavors of it that are quite easy to learn and a ton of guides on how to install and use many different flavors of Linux. Many people prefer Linux. I have used many different versions of it at work and school and am constantly debating wether or not I should switch over to Linux or have it duel booted on my computer.
TL;DGAS You can download Windows onto a USB and install it that way. There are places where you can get a cheap product key, or you can use a key from an old laptop or something. If you're considering spending over 100 bucks on a product key, Linux OS is a free alternative to Windows OS. You can find guides on how to do any of this online, including here on CZcams.
I hope I pointed you in the right direction. Goodluck.
Save money on everything that's out of stock 😂
Edit: just bought my first desktop (been laptop previously) no idea when the gpu will arrive, guess I'll have to wait and see!
4ngu5 the best money saver is to save your money haha
A.K.A : Save money on everything.
Save your money. You can't even spend it!!
I went to a Memory Express that listed the RTX 3090 as out of stock online. Fully expecting to be told what the website already said but instead the clerk pointed over his shoulder, almost within arms reach.
Your strategy did not work.
At least I now do not have to worry about running out of VRAM in Blender and Substance Painter!
epic that means that my rtx 3090 and 5600x system will only cost me 0$!!!!!!
"The motherboards, it's extremely easy to throw away money", then pull out three Rog items. Exactly!
Honestly there’s some 150 dollars ROG motherboards that are HARDCORE a good bang for the buck.
I m gonna build a gtx 1650 super based pc and should I buy the a320m mobo or spend higher for a b450 mobo. I won't overclock the cpu (ryzen 3 3100) and also will upgrade the pc atleast 5 years later.
@@saaksharshah1083 well first of all if you can, dont get a gtx 1650 super, get a gtx 1660ti, it is far better (check the benchmarks) and not so much more expensive and it will actually play games for 5 years at high settings (at full hd). As long as motherboards go, just buy the cheapest one, they both support M.2 and high enough ram frequency. Just make sure that you choose the right one for your gpu.
@@saaksharshah1083 Get a 3300x if you're gaming, it's much better for gaming. Get a b450 like MSI tomahawk as the a320m is a very weak VRM board and doesn't have any more room for future support. The first iteration of Ryzen boards is bad versus at least second gen. I'd recommend a Ryzen 3300x if you can find it, and 3600 cl16 Gskill @ 80$ for 16GB. With a 1660ti you should be good for a bit for gaming at 1080p, however, that's not always true as graphics tend to rapidly advance out of nowhere. Future proof doesn't exist.
@@AnGrYGrEeKGuY my budget is 55,000 Rs (750$) including all the peripherals. 1660ti is for sure better but I have to work according to the budget. I m gonna play cod warzone and at 1080p low settings, will get 95 fps avg which is enough for me. Gonna buy a 144hz monitor which is gonna be expensive, I hope manufacturers make 90hz monitors which would be a perfect balance between price and performance.
Your content is amazing I just built my first gaming rig and you saved me alot of money it's a budget build I got a 2060 rtx gpu i7 9thgen and 16gb ddr4 ram and runs my games nice and didn't break the bank
This is the video I needed. I hate searching for how to build a PC and its just videos of people assembling when I need factual information of what to spend on and not. Thanks!
POV: he posts this right after you spend your entire life savings on pc parts
Just spent $1400
GPU: 5700XT Taichi oc+
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
COOLER: Dual E34 esports duo
MOTHERBOARD: B550 Aorus Elite
SSD: 1 tb 970 evo
RAM: 32 gb Dark Za 3600
TOWER: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
POWER SUPPLY: EVGA+1 1000w
FANS: UpHere 120mm 6 pack
Sitting on a RTX 3080 and a r7 5800x with a B550f gaming, making this very true
@@maxsvensson5391 can you get a better Mobo please. That’s just disrespectful to your high end parts
@@colinanderson3492 Uhh why'd you get a 1000W PSU? 600-650W is perfectly fine and way cheaper, you could've gone up to a 3060ti
@@colinanderson3492 1000 watts? U gonna power something else besides ur PC or what?
DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THE POWER SUPPLY❗️❗️❗️🔥 💣
As long as it's rated 80+ bronze and has some headroom you should be fine. I used to always use Seasonic, but for a budget build recently went for a 300w kolink 23.99. It works fine.
Is 600w 80+ bronze good for a 5600x with a 2060 super
@@dants2444 Should be fine.
Lmao I just bought an RM850x and called it a day
@@dants2444 EV3A 1300 Gold is future-proof.
If you have a microcenter near you always look for the open box items! You can get great deals just make sure the label says "complete" but this can save you 30% on high end items
I guess the Cabinet is another point where many people have to know the sweet spot as there are many choices in the market nowadays, but to choose the right one is often a tough decision to make for many people, between the one with many lights, the one with spacious room and/or the one with enough ventilation to cool your components. As a builder I have to evaluate this in order to check if everything will be fine once I start the build otherwise if a customer makes a wrong decision then I will immediately identify the issue.
I can't wait until this pandemic is over to see all the great deals on computer supplies that people don't need anymore.
I've been waiting two years for that to happen haha but very true
And here I'm still waiting for the pandemic to actually start.
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Most people will continue to work at home on their computers so if it gets better it will only be a little better.
If we get lucky when people sell used stuff on reddit for a decent price.
It’s never going to end so long as you continue to let them tell you to socially distance, wear a mask, take the vaccine etc.
They love having authority and aren’t going to give it up now.
The whole thing is a scam.
"It is hard to bottle neck your gpu with you cpu these days"
My prebuilt: "observe"
Buy a new monitor, at 1440p it's really hard to bottleneck by the CPU. I have a ryzen 5 5600x and running Rise of the Tomb Raider at 1440p high settings uses 5 to 15% CPU and 99% of my GTX 1080 graphics card. I don't think the processor will be a problem anytime soon.
@@alexandruilea915 you smoking that barrak
Who liked this by seeing the dp?
Cyberpunk 2077 at low FPS: "Oh you lower your graphic settings? How is that working for ya? Ever thought about getting a CPU that isn't a potato from 2010?"
Cyberpunk 2077: allow me to introduce myself
Hey Jayz, thanks for the post. perhaps one way to look at it is to split the budget in rough % for each component eg 50-60% for GFX, 25-30%% for cpu, 10-15% for memory ( or whatever ) and 35% for mobo. that may give us a way to balance the budget on a scalable value build. it would give us a rough framework for a 500-1500 dollar build on the main 4 components. Just some thoughts
That adds up to 120-140% but I get your point... Which is different from the video's point: independent of budget, spend sensibly on the least important parts, THEN spend the rest on the GPU. More budget doesn't mean to spend more on the mainboard.
I did follow these advices and I finally finished my PC
R5 5600x, x470-f, 32GB 3200mhz gskill rams and i saved up so much money and got a 3090
No bottleneck whatsoever, even got a 1440p display and everything is running fine
Planning the same build of yours. It's worth to buy cooler?or stock ? Any suggestions?
spend about 150 dollars on a motherboard "laughs in 50 dollar motherboard"
For real tho I am looking to upgrade my i7 6700K to a 5000 series Ryzen and mainboard wise Iam definitely not looking forward to investing more than 100 Euros on a MB
@@Eyck-head ive wanted to upgrade my old pc but i had to change basically everything so i just sold it and now im building a new one
I want to like this comment but it has 69 like and I dont want to ruin it
I'm feeling bad now for spending 479€ on an Asus Crosshair VIII Formula
@@tmsmeister7603 its ok aslong as it stops at 420
Jay "Nobody needs 32gb of memory for gaming "
FS2020: "hold my beer"
Not for gaming okay but for google chrome you need at least 128gb
Right. Nobody needs 64 GB for gaming, but 32 GB has one use right now.
I have 16gig of memory, I will agree that I have never seen it max out until I launch FS2020 then it maxes out.
well if u game + stream with amd graphics + record + are on chrome believe me u'll need 32gig. Took just in case i need them so i don't need to up them until ddr5.
DCS multiplayer is also notoriously heavy on RAM.
I basically run it at 95% or higher RAM usage with my 16GB.
The 8GB of VRAM is obviously also maxed out, at medium isch settings
:)
Excellent sound advice. Last build was 10 years ago and still going strong but now time for a new rig. Happened to be an AMD set up. All the best Graham.
It’s a specific case, but Escape from Tarkov definitely benefits from 32GB of RAM. Also with the number of people Twitch streaming or capturing, RAM overhead is more important than in the past for most people. But the speed rule definitely makes sense to this day.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I actually stream, record (running a 16 channel digital studio mixer), play music, Discord and game all at the same time on two monitors. In which case a person needs much more RAM than 16 GB. HOWEVER, if you are not one of these people- 16-32GB is more than adequate. And if all you do is surf the web and watch CZcams videos (like most Apple fans lol), you don't even need 16GB of RAM.
@@ivankrushensky HOW DARE YOU TO LAUGH AT APPLE??!!!! APPLE IS THE GREATEST RELIGION IN THE WHOLE GALAXY!!!!!!! ~Apple fans reaction
U ppl are so annoying. Ofc if ur multitasking ud benefit from 32gb and its fkn common sense
Same with Rust
Yeah Rust, open world games with lots of mods or sandbox games definitely benefit from more RAM
"multiples of 8..."
Come on Jay, you know it is powers of 2.
No even power of two equals eight, tho...?
@@littlerufe 8 doesnt matter. Its always been 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 etc. Hexadecimal system and binair system both use those. 2^2^2^2^2^x etc
@@Stan1310 by that logic, I DEMAND 256Gb DIMS BY 2023
X58 is sad
@@brianlempa I do not know what you are saying. 128gb is already a thing. We only have to wait for technology to evolve until 256gb is a new thing. Remember RAM started with like 4kb per slot.
Can't spend your money when nothing is in stock *taps head meme
Or just get lucky
@@VenoXj1 In Canada, Canada Computers is restocking the 30 series pretty randomly across the country in different towns. An MSI 3070 came in stock in a town where a friend of mine lives, and they managed to snag it for me!
Or scalpers buy everything and try to sell them x2 the price. Looking at those lian li unifans for 150$+
@@shawnbrazil6643 25€ each where I live :)
Not in stock but I'm still able to order them. Highly doubt scalpers are going for fans though, seems rather unlucky to me.
Optimizing storage speed hardware can save a bit. I remember going ssd for the first time in load speeds. However, spending 4TB in SSD vs a solid HDD is a big price difference.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this !
I just spent $5000 on a PC and now I'm watching this....... oh uh.
over kill, you wont need to upgrade again in your life time lol
@@713XxxX ah I only got a 3070... but I edit alot with various programmes so other aspects I went really high budget on. Was gonna get the 3080, but, stock issues
@Caleb Walo Well, my currently 5 year old computer has an Asus Sabertooth mobo, AMD FX-8350 CPU, an R9 580 GPU, and 16GB of DDR3 1866 RAM. A friend gave me an nVidia 2070 that I'm using now. But otherwise the computer still has about 2 years or so until it starts struggling.
Care to build me one too?👀😂
@@prpwnage9296 say that to my 3 minute render times and 215fps Warzone on Ultra settings. 😉
Jay: *brings a strix X470-F gaming as a low-end board*
me: *cries in Gigabyte DS3H*
Haha b450 Gang
I spend 5€ more for a asrock b450 pro4 and all the difference is a 2nd m.2 slot via sata i think. Totally fine. Only the bios is nit as nice ase the high tier ones
His guideline of spending no more than the cost of the CPU on the motherboard. Lol, that should probably be more like don't spend more than half the cost of your CPU. On the Intel side, be careful spending too little such as base model ASRock Z490 boards
Right. spoken like a true overclocking enthusiast. I'm here with my $500 CPU and a $150 mobo. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. (Have since switched to itx and it cost $200 now)
I don't think that's a low end board. I run one with a 2700x. Rock solid combination. Its a great board.
I remember with Max Payne 1, upgrading from 64mb ram to 128mb made a huge difference.
i am gonna keep watching these pc building tutorials until my pc parts arrive
10:10 Now hear me out.. There was a deal on the 32 gigs
Naaah. I did it for the meme. Aways under 40% ram utilisation.
there is no mistake in getting 16GB dual channel and then slapping in another 16 in the future right?
@@Daniel-dj7fh no but it seems unececary for a while it might be unneeded until after ddr5 comes out
Likely DDR5 will have higher capacity too, so you might as well just wait until then and get more capacity, more speed at lower power usage rather than overspending on obsolete over-upgrades
@@Daniel-dj7fh 4x8 is slower than 2x16, because dual channel won't work with 4 sticks. Severely limiting ram speed. I would advise against it
How not to overspend?
1. Don't buy a gpu until Christmas next year.
Everyone on reddit no matter what time of year it is
Nah, it won't be that long. Things should be back to relative normality by April or May at latest.
Idk how my stupid ass managed to finish collecting money just a few days before december 1st, just around the possibly worst time to build a pc ever? Lmao , but i somehow managed to get a 5600x and a 3060 ti for a reasonable price, but yeah id be pissed if i had to wait a few more months, so Fs in the chat for everyone who wanted to upgrade/build themselves a „christmas gift” and didnt...
@@too_real_6087 Yeah, I don't know how people can wait that long either. Got myself a 3080 TUF OC and a 5900x for a little more than what it should be. Seems like we got lucky.
@Venox That's the 3080 I wanted but just impossible to get hold of. At this stage, I'm just going to save some more and wait until the Tis come out next year.
I really appreciate what you are doing! It's a really valuable channel!
Remember when you recently asked us to tell you what we wanted in future videos? This !!!! Freakin love this! Thank you Jay and crew!
I don't need 32GB of memory for gaming, I need it for Chrome
Just use Edge until Chrome gets its shit worked out. Runs the same with a lot less ram usage.
I get such a kick out of not having to close firefox and its many tabs to play a game.
Try Opera Gx you can manage how much ram you use there
@@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861 it absolutely does not run the same. Sure, Chromium based, but still not as fast and I'm still addicted to chome extensions not yet available or supported in Edge.
@@racerex340 Edge is chromium based, so pretty sure that it still usually works with all the Chrome stuff. I mean, I'm using some pretty off the wall stuff that wasn't made for Edge like MAL-sync. Even UBlock works identically on Edge. I'm not sure what hardware you're running, but there's very little differences in performance on any relatively modern system.
There's this idea that Chromium Edge is slow. It's really not, just the stain of the awful first version plus some clear bias. To each their own, though.
So I didn’t get why everyone said how everything is out of stock before, until I finally ordered my first pc parts...
also, did you check the prices? 3090 is at least $2,200. if you can get it.
@@SapiaNt0mata oh heck yeah, let me just find $2,200 dollars behind the couch first.. no, it's almost impossible to just magically find that much money :I
My dad is a 48 year old gamer who IS willing to spend the 2000 for one smh 😂 I told him his 2080 super is good enough for the games he wants to play but he just can’t help himself with the shiny new tech 😂. But that means I may see the 2080 become mine 😈😈😈
@@vntamed700 dude, you're pretty spoiled :I
@@svan4748 you’re jealous more like. I’m lucky my dad is a hard working gamer. I’m currently rocking an i5 gtx 1660 ti I’m not “spoiled” I’m 22 years old bro 😂
Thanks for all the great info! Really helping me keep my build in budget!
... but that's before monitor and keyboards...
At least some of these people have a system working .my had big surge from lightning hitting power line fried system out .so watch on what be nice system for this day and age now .love your content Jay
It is literally more difficult to spend money on computer parts rn then it ever has been
I really wanted to this month, having some holidays and stuff.. but I guess it'll be a few more months
got myself a prebuilt which I will take only the GPU from it, my cousin got a 3070(and only a 3070 *KEKW*) so he's gonna take the rest of the pc and give the GPU to me
and yes, its almost impossible to get good performing GPU(for a regular price) right now. ones from stores with good prices are all sold out so only way to get GPU for a cheaper price than ones provided by scalpers is to buy a prebuilt
@@shinefake48 any websites you recommend
JaySwish Gaming I personally use bestbuy(since they got a store less than a mile away from my house) and Newegg. Amazon is also a good choice(official seller:asus,razed..etc)
What I wouldn't cheap out on is power supply (good quality) and case (good airflow)
But with cases you can't get any better airflow than "completely unobstructed airflow", i.e. no case, which is free.
Agree. A cheap PSU will cost you more in the long run and may very well burn your house down. With cases, the problem I have with the really cheap ones, is that they usually have a very rough finish (meaning you cut yourself a lot on them) and no quality of life features like drive trays or cable management. Usually, spending just like $50 more can get you something that's way more easier to work with.
@@nathangamble125 not really true because the air pushed by fans tends to expand outward instead of having a confined directional flow so it's better to have shielded circulation on certain components to maintain the intake force. Otherwise you're losing cooling potential to the ambient air space
@@jonathanpeters9271 and that you can do JTC style with an extra fan and 2 rubberbands ;)
@@nathangamble125 yeah that’s if you’re going ultimate budget build 😂 you’ll get great airflow
Thank you very much for your guidance and honesty. Great video.
You can always follow prebuilt's cheap out component list:
Power supply
Case thickness
ODM SSD
Using AMD
Fans have no manual control
I see the rog mobos and I'm like "yeah I have my 3700X on an Asus prime b450m-a"
It's ironic he has (IMO) high end of the price point he is talking about, lol!
I actually preferred ASUS TUF motherboards all my life, I'm in my 4th build and it has never let me down
@@pepach077 I just built one and I had originally put a Nvidia card in it, waiting for my Rx5700xt card to arrive, then when I swapped out cards, my Asus X-570 TUF Pro + board never booted again, I couldn't believe it, I thought the AMD card was DOA, but I plugged the old card back in and I didn't get any LED troubleshooting light to come up. I am currently waiting for my replacement board to arrive (hopefully Friday). I have used Asus several times before and never had an issue.
@@rwhunt99 Might've fried the MOB yourself when you were working inside the pc. I don't see how installing a new GPU would kill a motherboard like that.
Yeah I've got a core i5-10600k on an Asus tuf b-460m-plus
Asus was like hey Jay we need to clear out some old stock. LOL
Love this channel it's like one of those "things your dad should have told you" channels but for buuilding pcs
I always build my PC's around the resolution I plan to play with on them & not buy overkill CPU/GPU/etc. I also have no interest in overclocking, so that factors into which HW suits my build's sweet spot.
J2C: “If I’m saying this and you have no idea what I’m talking about, clearly doesn’t pertain to you.”
Me: what is he talking about.
"There is no such thing as future proofing your computer". Me who used a 2500k for like 7 years until like 2018.
Just retired my 2500 non k it was my backup rig
Been rocking a 5930k since launch -- still holding strong (so far)
my i7 4770k (not OC) and gtx 970 still going strong. The only thing left is a 1tb hdd from the first prebuilt I bought (use it for extra games storage). Plus the power cunsumption is lower than a lot of stuff today (my province is dumb and refusing to switch to cheap renewable power)
@@0nyxRecon I was running a 4770k and a GTX 970 until my motherboard gave up the ghost. Solid computer. I wouldn't have upgraded if it hadn't died.
Until I invest into a 120hz 4kTV made for the next gen consoles,which also makes them better for PC gaming as well,I have no incentive to upgrade anything yet.
Helped me sooo much. Thank you. Can't wait to catch up on your videos. Keep the sarcasm flowing.
Great advice! Been a builder for a long time and totally agree. I've got a few on my channel too!
also remember to check how parts compare your country. In australia intel is like 30% cheaper than US giving it better price/performance than AMD
In Germany intel is also cheaper than amd (i5 10400f for 130€, ryzen 5 3600 for 210€, and a good z490 mb for 130€ and a good b450 for around 100-150€)
@@suppenkelle3879 yes but its because everybody is building AMD 😂
@@suppenkelle3879 how does one find prices like these? Almost everything I see here in Germany is more expensive than what it is overseas
lmao this also happen in Indonesia that Intel is cheaper than AMD
everybody are building ryzen system
Intel is Budget King now
In the Philippines everything is more expensive so we lose either way 😂
Saving money?
Its easy, just avoid the temptation of RGB.
Never!
That's interesting to know, I'm actually someone who prefers no rbg 😂
It's hard to find stuff that doesn't have smashed all over it, I wish someone would make a murder/black out series please point me In the right direction...I can take a little rgb on my case housing of my case just a little
@@cosmicjohn174 id cooling 207/224 black edition, Cooler Master hyper 212 Black edition
For Cpu Cooler.
Thik :)
God damn when I saw the 20 series gpus. I’m glad I held up on upgrading from 10 series until now with 40 series
It's actually really hard not to over spend, but then it technically isn't really overspending if you're getting what you need. At least in my case. A few points you made make a lot of sense, but then I look at what I have and the reasons I needed an upgrade. A couple games I play(ed) had issues maxing out CPU AND RAM, so a faster CPU with maybe more cores so background don't choke game (going from gen 3 intel to gen 10!). And more than 16 gigs so RAM isn't maxed, but speed isn't so much an issue, so slower is ok. Then, for a few to few dozen % more overclocking seems to be a no brainer, but isn't crucial. And then looking at price difference on CPU's, might as well go for faster for a bit more. But, some to most lower end mobo's don't have enough usb (if too low end) and/or sata for all the drives. Not having a CD drive anymore fixes 1 spot only, so down to 5. More capacity could fix lack of drive space, but then your spending a lot more on all new drives to replace the ones you have that still work. Although in my case this is redundant since all my drives are full anyways so had to replace all of them with bigger anyways. So now down to 3 drives but almost doubled capacity (1, 2, and 4 TB up from 1, 1, 1, 2TB, and a 512GB). One of the new drives is also nvme so now sata limit isn't an issue, but now I have unused drives too, which is a waste to me. Not to mention back-up drive will eventually move external. One thing I know I overspent was the cooler. I live in SoCal so it does get hot, and always had issues with PC getting hot. So I got an AIO instead of using an air cooler, or even the stock cooler. Benefit is it will be much quieter since PC sits right next to me. Plus it looks nicer. I know a CPU can rock on at 70C+ for years even, but I only upgrade every 5 years or so and don't like to see over 60C, even when it's 85F-90F (~30C-32C) in the house at times. Then there's the case. You usually would only build in it once so build ease isn't much a factor. But it sits next to me, so I want it to look nice and have good air flow. It's just too easy to over spend.
I love how he talks about the strix mb as if it’s bad. For most people, that’s overspending
strix tax
i got 450f strix
didnt know that was an extra thing
@@starwarsgeekss usually strix branded products are priced higher than its competitors
Overkill
...but he didn't talk about it being 'bad' at all. At its price, the value isn't great when boards between probably $100-$175 can do everything that the "average consumer" needs a motherboard to do. That doesn't make more expensive boards "bad".
Jay every 10 seconds : *This is an area that's easy to overspend*
@[ WANT S Ē Х ] OPEN MY HOME VIDEO ! Reported.
@@michaellooks8397 I had to report like 10 such accounts spamming the replies
its a bit late but there's definitely some games where you might want to consider 32GB of RAM (I'm looking at you, heavily modded cities skylines)
Yeah.. it's late. This video was made 2 years ago Einstein.
I've always been wondering why there is such a big difference between the mobo prices, and to be fair, there isnt a huge difference. All you have to do is what Jay says in the video, look for your requirements and make sure the mobo has what you are looking for. a mobo dont need to be pricy, it just has to have what you require
Cmon we all know RGB is where you really got to spend the big bucks for performance
Come on now, that's pretty obvious.
Yeah man, like that high performance chrome ignition coil cover on my '69 Camaro.... gotta be given me at least a 100 horsepower boost....LMFAO
System overheating? Turn rgb blue to stay cool 😎
Obviously because rgb is red, blue, and green team
I hear, if you turn it blue , it stays colder
mfw both of my friends who recently built computers weren't running XMP :')
Maybe they didn't want to void their warranty?
Naw, they both told me they didn't know about it until I told them. They ended up enabling it so all is good
know what’s worse? by friend had a $1000 budget for a pc and ended up buying an integrated graphics cpu and a geforce 1650
@@brandonwilliams6633 oof
I’m new to PC, I haven’t enabled xmp profile. Purely because I don’t know what I’m doing. Is it as simple as enabling it? You don’t have to mess around with any other settings? Timings etc? I’ve watched videos including an old one from jay. But I’m not confident in changing anything.
Cooler and case are pretty important for a good airflow, you are not gonna get a good experience when the graphics card overheats and throttle giving you stutters.
I operate CAD software for my job. I used Solidworks for the first 4 years using 3D modeling, and I now use Autodesk Inventor. It is almost like playing a game, where you get to invent things. Most CAD software can design almost anything. Probably most of the gaming hardware, especially things like cases, fans, even the electronics are easier to design with 3D modeling. Fusion 360 seems to be the hobbyist choice for CAD, for a cost of $500 a year. I saw your video with the ASUS ProArt Z490 motherboard. It would be nice to see how you configured the system it went into, and while probably a gaming machine, how it performs with Fusion 360.
I actually think blind taste tests would be informative for a lot of builders. Essentially have like half a dozen builds of different configurations under cloaks and have people try all the systems with various tasks to rank them and see what people actually like, dislike, notice, don't notice, etc.
Jay : "If we did a blind taste test". Yes, give me the delicious rams!
Mmm, RAM #1 is pretty crunchy ngl
and is that fish i taste in #4?
What dip goes best with Ran chips?
I think Jay should make a short 5-10 minute video listing all the good brands of each of these parts and why that's the case as well as listing the ones that aren't worth the price or are just bad.
And make it every 6 months to a year.
edit: 5-10, not 50-10, haha
Little Snippet at 7:45 about Intel CPUs and the onboard graphics. Took me 2 weeks to understand this and you just brushed over it now I do an no other video explained it. Thanks