Don't Let King Ruin Your Tekken 8 Experience
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
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0:00 - TL;DR
7:40 - Detailed Explanation
23:53 - Infographic from Reddit
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Intro/Outro by SKONK - / @bigskonk
Intro/Outro track by KEIFERGR33N - / @keifergr33n
Edited by: / @averyxfgc
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I'm PhiDX, I play Tekken professionally for @ParagonFGC and ArcadeShock. - Hry
Hiya. King main here :3 just wanted to contribute by adding to this
The jaguar step throw is wild, leads into muscle buster at the end and is currently King's most damaging throw, more than RDC. If the King player is on pad (like me), they can bind Ki charge to a button (like me) and go into that grab from jaguar step, spam Ki Charge (L3 for me), and get 116 damage. Best counterplay for this is to simply mash 1 if you see the King spamming this on you. Same for the reverse arm slam grabs. If they're spamming ki charge, spamming 1 will get you out of the chain. Now, experienced King players will, as Phi mentioned, will know mixups for this. For instance, I never go for RDC, I just end with dragon sleeper. I can mash out L3 at the end of the chain to guarantee it, I've never even practiced the input for it before in my life, but I can guarantee dragon sleeper every time I see them break my RDC. Same for Kings Bridge, if I see you break it, I'm doing the sharpshooter instead because it does more damage than STF.
Another thing, with my back at the wall, I don't ever go for giant swing. It's so easily telegraphed. You'll know what it looks like at lower ranks especially (hi, orange rank here) when the King player CHOOSES to play with their back at the wall. Be cautious here. The King can also just opt for a Hangman's throw, which is a 1+2 break, and go into a Shining Torpedo for 51 damage. 55 if they blue spark it.
Also, if the King is literally refusing to play neutral and is only going for throws, just duck him and punish. But again, beware, every situation you could think of where King might want to throw you or it might look like he's about to go for a throw, he can combo you with a mid launcher instead if he calls you out on your ducking.
For my King mains. Jaguar step 2 into pedigree to go into heat, or d1+3 to floor break and combo.
crouch dash into while standing 1+2, then f1+2 for a big combo.
And make sure you can spark your ISW and giant swing on command because you can use those to get running power bomb enders on combos (ISW) and floor break enders (GS) for more damage.
Also, random fun fact, King's heat smash is the most damaging in the game and it's not even close, dealing 64 damage, with Jin's coming second at only 57. King's heat smash can also be used in combos and can floor break. If you heat smash on a floor break stage and then spark your giant swing input, it does 93 damage. For a 3 hit combo. Half their health.
Guys, watch out for King. Considering how much they've buffed throws in general on Tekken 8, King is kind of... in a spot right now.
You're a real one
@@PhiDX jeez, thanks man haha. You too. Really been appreciating the content lately.
Let me get this straight: you can now basically spam ki charge to continue a chain throw without knowing the actual inputs?
@@FF8Alexander yup. I literally have no clue how to do the 116 damage chain grab out of jaguar step. I just mash L3 and do it.
@@FF8Alexander you always could
The biggest crime of the tekken community is gaslighting people into thinking that this warcrime of a character is hard to play
I mean it depends on the level legacy players are of course going to think he’s hard. They know how to counter him and usually won’t be thrown us newbies however 😅 yeah.
Lol, cry a river. Most of his throws are things that you can duck under. It's a wrestler character, grabbing you should totally be a thing.
@@andreirving779 the problem isn't breaking standing throws, he has unbreakable throws, an ez mode mixup stance that just kills you, crouching throws, oki throws, chainthrows, an ambiguous throw mixup, his heat smash is broken, he has a million counterhit buttons as if this grappler character needs to have an insane counterhit game, throws come out at like 10 frames now, are homing and basically unbreakable on counterhit. You are probably just a carried King player, literally as autistic as Azucena, Feng and Dragunov players.
@@andreirving779100 damage from grabs should be a thing too? Idc if it’s rare that it’s done every once in a while, but that’s just bonkers.
@@calleocho2107 All of his chains can be broken, there is no single throw that's 100 damage. Closest to that is a wall splat giant swing(70), which as shown in this vid, can be broken. Round out your defense, work on your throw breaks.
"Stop King from throwing you."
King - we'll see.......
"Stop King from throwing you"
"Roar"
Can’t stop everything. Especially when U kno how 2 switch it Up.
Lil Majin would like to speak to you...
Lil Majin plays legit and does not abuse throws. Especially online he basically never does the scrubby chainthrow BS.
Lil Majin who ?
It’s been ages since he last played at competitive level.. maybe sometime back in 2018.
@@oolongpantsu3437 Even when he does, why would that be bad?
It seems like Lil Majin applauds people who play around noob traps, and it's the players fault if they don't play around it and they learn.
@@cool-aquarian
I personally don’t think that makes him any less of a legend. You can’t give someone their flowers then try to take them back just because you don’t like them or something lol, but that’s just me.
@@oolongpantsu3437 just try to tech the throws, the whole point of the video is that you have to guess.
You sir, are a fucking saint. These are easily some of the highest quality tutorials I've seen for tekken
110%
King players hate this man, find out why!
This is incredibly helpful, but its really putting into context why king frustrates me so much, there's so much nonsense you have to both react and guess to just to get out not even get a punish on him, and if you mess up his throws are a super long cutscene, compared to grapplers in other fighting games where the interaction around command grabs are very simple, easily punished if you call it out correctly, and if you get grabbed the grab is short, potemkin and zangief just send you up and then straight back down rather than holding you in place for what feels like a full minute.
We're just trying to help you stay hydrated, it gives you time to take a drink during a match #teamh2o #staymoist
The sheer length and damage of a chain throw inflicts such mental damage.
King is one of those characters every Tekken player would bitch about if he were a DLC newcomer, but because he's had all this wild noninteractive shit for 20 years, people give him a free pass.
He really is for ass players I think personally.
@@afroraykun He also gets a free pass because those animations are sick. If I mess up a knowledge check, I'll take watching a cinematic elaborate chain grab over watching Hwoa literally press the same button 10 times for a 100 damage combo
Now you know how so many players feel when a single jab gets turned into a 12 second, 25 hit combo. At least you can break kings throws.
"Never Get Grabbed By King Again - Tekken 8" As a King player all I can say is: Never say never.
As a king player i say: cute
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Im atleast hoping my friends learn to break throws a little bit so ill be able to actually mix them up with throws instead of just spamming giant swing(best option cuz i dont need to mix them up usually)
@@thememelords9491cheesy as😂😂😂.
@@tamsirjames3793 No i meant i only use giant swing whenever i do throw if they wont break it cuz it does the most raw damage out of any of the normal throws(they aint tech rolling to reduce the damage so this is true lmao)
Don't worry, he actually missed a few new tricks King can do now to mess up alot of the theory in this video. Expect new King Meta to pop up soon, I've already discovered some stuff I think no one knows yet.
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Very nice
Chicken wing being 1+2 is killer to know
Everyone likes to try the RDC 🤣
Hands down one of the most concise and informative throw break guides out there, the way you explain things are really engaging too and don't feel overwhelming. Appreciate your work!
There used to be a throw breaker app on the Play store/Apple store that would have some GIF's of Tekken 7 King, King, Jack and a few other characters doing throws and you had to press if it was a 1,2 or 1+2 grab, and if you got it right you got a gif of you correctly breaking it. Was released around like 2019/2020 and honestly, I think it was one of the most helpful things that I have ever seen. Great content and glad people are learning throw escapes and breaks. Not having chickens in this game is a shame, I understand that they were super niche, but I still wish they were in the game. Regardless, excellent content and thanks for making a comprehensive guide and cheat sheet!
Name of the app
@@TyroneJhonsonBBC I think it was called "BoxeR's Throw Break Trainer" or something like that. He was an AUS player/app developer. Might have to jump through some hoops to find it, as I don't think it's on either IOS or Play Store anymore.
@@BladedStrider thats okay i might find the apk on google thanks!
AWESOME, thats exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you very much PhiDX!!!
You’re always making the perfect videos that address my exact frustrations with this game. I would love to see like a general strategy guide against the typical characters that beginners have trouble against.
Leaving a TLDR up front is so real, dropping a like and a sub.
Mans the real King
This is a great presentation! I’ll be referring back to this video to practice!
I’m new to Tekken, so it’ll be nice to not get bodied as much by King!..
it will be the first of many! good job!
New to tekken but people tell me it’s about seeing what the enemy does and react, and then there is king where you litteraly have to gues because the previous made statement doesn’t apply anymore
Right ? Like who designed this guy
skill issue ur trash at the game
He's an exception of course. He relies heavily on throws especially in low ranks. He lacks some other tools for balancing reasons
Somewhat related but i actually broke a throw on reaction today, let's goooooo
congrats bro
Good job. Im yet to break a throw
@@AKTalal Six months of training and I can just about break 40% of throws against a good player who mixes them up (more if the opponent just uses the same one over and over -- more common than you think; usually it's a 1+2 command grab that people will favour.)
It takes time =)
@@afroraykun bruh ive been playing tekken 7 for 2 years and i would break 1 out of 10 throws lol. Throws just aint my thing
Yes!!
you know what I haven't seen on youtube is a playlist on how to play against each character. how to counter them, their key moves etc. And I think the way you explain things and write them down on the side would be perfect for that. I swear it would be one of the most watched playlists for tekken on youtube. Please think about making something like that it would be awesome
watch blasted salami too
I really really hate fighting king players, if they’re good or bad it doesn’t matter if they get desperate and I make a mistake all of a sudden I’m being grabbed 4 times
sick stuff phi. Loving the content, its really helping. had quite a few of my new to tekken friends benefit massively from your last guide!
Thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Your guides are great, thank you for your work!
KING WILL NEVER GRAB ME AGAIN POG
*gets grabbed by King* 🫵🐆👑
*gets RDC to death*
then gets grabbed by a normal throw
thats brutal lmao @@kaz1073
Counter hit throw and he still has one unbreakable. You might not ever eat a full chain throw again. But you getting thrown lmao, that's his game.
I am always overwhelmed by normal throws, im planning on practicing your drill from the last video, but when watching your summary again i am just confused how people can do it.
@22:30 when king does the arm breaker right in front of your face.
at frame 2 both of his arms are buried into Nina's face, up to the elbows, you are telling me you can see what arm is infront of the other?
You don't react to the arms for these throws. King's are guesses.
Just got done watching your previous throw break video, which was incredibly helpful, and then I see this and it's precisely what I was looking for. I'm always eating the frickin' Tomahawk throw and had no clue how to deal with it! Much appreciation for these kind of videos 🙌
we are not tried of you talking, you provide so much helpful content that really affects us all. keep it up! and thank you.
Finally I can beat Lil Majin.... 👀👀
Haha my man Majin will always find a way to
Problem with that and this is coming from a King player. We don't need throws to beat a player, Its our main gimmick sure, but its just a gimmick we still have other moves to rely on and combos
Yea sure Lil bro, In your dreams
as a king player, thank you! i know all the legacy chain throw inputs and i can't even explain to friends half the time what to do against them because no thoughts head empty i just throw people and let them figure it out. i'd much rather have people be in the know than be completely ignorant to this stuff, keeps the game more competitive
All you king mains are asss 😂😂😂
@@charlievazquez5124The throws aren’t the only thing king has 😂, sometimes you guys just gotta get tossed and slammed like monday night raw .
You have no skill if you play king. Sorry not sorry.
These videos are nice... I watched your previous video about grab-breaks (with Dragunov) and it is so well-informative and helpful. You earned yourself a new subscriber!
love the through breakdowns keep it up!
As a King main, this will help to actually improve on how to mess with people. Gotta grab them when they least expect it and that's how I'll get them :)
My personal favorite is saving my leopard sprint for unnecessary tense situations. They never expect an rko on a round ender 😂
We always expect grapple from a king so ur sentences r void
@CustomerService1232 I will simply drop kick your ankles then :)
@@amipitamgeegmailcom a good king player don’t need throws just put them paws on you
@@kyore789 He does need grapple.. without it he is nothing
Yeah Im already sick of these king players
cry noob
Great videos! I appreciate the amount of work and thought you've put into them. Thanks for taking the time and energy.
Thank you for making these!
It's starting to become a child thing that appeal to anything to take advantage. I had two of these situations....and another five with Victor, similar. It looks like it's all AI bots, I'm turning off the multiplatform option, it's improved
I'm new to Tekken, and my Problem right now is that my friend is playing Special Mode King and he doesn't have to do the Visual Cues for the Big Swing for example. He mostly spams anyways, but now knowing he has throws that look the same is bothering the hell out of me.
crouch
@@Harada_Real Knee
poke him, you cant rlly do jabs in special mode i think
Stop playing against him. He's basically playing Mondern Zengief, he cant be taken seriously.
What a channel! Keep em coming, chief! Excellent content !
Your timing on this video is great! I just made a list of things I want to improve and execute on and this one was on my list.
Fighting against a King was no fun for me and I didn't go for any rematches. Hopefully I will improve and that guide will help me getting started, thanks!
Why train grab breaks when you can mash and say Bismillah? 🦍🦍🦍🦍
😂
So king is just broken, got it
Love these videos so much. They will definitely help to make online feel less threatening, even if it's still a guessing game is better to know what to expect. Thank you for the great video!
Great guide. Clear, concise, explains thought process and intent, visual and written aid. Can’t say enough good things.
This is why he’s cheap
Stop making this character overpowered. He’s now just one button 70% HP no skill needed.
Lol wut
Scrub
Cry more. Learn the matchup. You’re a bum. Good players break throws. Cope
Big scrub energy here.
I've been looking for this video so long.
Thank you so much PhiDx!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏
Was waiting for this video from someone, ty!
I am impressed. To the point, and very precise. I wish more people get inspired by you and present things as well as you do, sir. Thank you for existing.
Love the cheat sheet, brilliant. Keep up the good work.
aww man! I knew someone like you would come along to help the newcomers. I’m glad it’s still guaranteed on counter!
You're a sad little troll. Literally dogwater with your baby made chain throws, huh?
Thank you! Saved me some time experimenting in practice mode
Thanks for all the work you do to teach folks new to the game!
Thanks for the cheat sheet.
Stayed for the vibes and Info
Such an amazing channel. Subscribed!
Thank you for such awesome and detailed advice!
Appreciate you making this video 🙏 big help
Great video. I was just looking for a guide after eating shining wizards non stop. Time to put the guys on 💯
Bless your tutorials, I'm excited to mash 1 and pray against the long throw chains :)
Man, I was watching your channel for a while without subscribing, but wow, this is top notch tutorial so count me in your community !!!
Awesome video, didn't know about the guaranteed unbreakable full multi throw.
For me this video is the epitome of the: "Harry, You Don't Need to Sell It To Me" meme.
commenting for the algorithm, great video. you're genuinely a really good teacher
Thank you for the video, I was meaning to search how to tech Kings grabs for a few days now. 😂
Glad this video popped infront of me.
You can plink 2,1 buffer 1+2 if your really fast at it and see the throw coming. It works now, the break window must be larger in 8.
That armored flex move also cancels any armor break stun, learned that one the hard way.
This really helped me bro. I appreciate it.
Amazing guides :) thank you
Thank you so much for this video! I didn’t even own the game yet when I started this. I kept seeing how king charges into a throw and throw combos. Your explanation is incredible!
I finally got the game a few days ago and I dodged that charge throw and the King was just standing there for a solid second! I punished in response. He also froze when his throw was interrupted for a second and I punished him for it. I managed to win really easily after those instances. 🎉
Thank you for this tutorials, you and Blasted Salami have been a great help!
been waiting for this since yesterday cause you just seem to makle the most sense to me
I’m a king main and I’m actually really happy you made this, its insane the amount of people I’ve hit the rdc or the burning hammer with lately, usually I only throw those out as a move to see if they are still paying attention now I get them like once or twice a match
Because they require 0 skill. Congrats.
@@watchmesquatch cry more
one of *the* best guide video channels out of any guide channels for competitive games.
Thabk You!!! I needed a way to get out of that Heat version of Jaguar Sprint Throw
Helpful, thanks for cheat sheet version. subbed.
A Godsend of a video, I never knew it was this complicated with different buttons breaking different grabs. No wonder I was getting literally rolled on
Thanks for the guide!
Complete newcomer to Tekken and I actually want to PLAY King but this was still a fascinating watch. Really anjoying your videos, thanks mate
Appreciate this! Going to work on this. I got bodied by my first King who knew the chains. Git caught by the grab that comes from the spin.
Commenting for the algo. Great video. Concise and informative. Thanks mane.
Excellent vid. Thank you!
The best Tekken 8 tutorials on CZcams free. Keep doing what you're doing!
Damn man!
That's some real good material in terms of tutorial.
I'm gonna start your break grab training a little bit everyday.
But now talking about King... even you explaining in depth how they work and how to avoid I can't believe that some part of it is literally luck based😢
Great video, love your content man
Subscribed you’re awesome for this I’m gonna keep coming back to this
I would note that with Giant Swing being the only 10f throw and jabs being +1 on block, you cannot jab King back of you block his standing jab or you're going to get CH thrown. You need to crouch or backdash or do a move that crouches throws. GS catches jumps so you can't jump it.
Got thrown into a demotion by King yesterday, wake up this morning to a Phi video with the counter play! Thanks so much Phi, really appreciate all your great content 👍
I'm a beginner King Main in Tekken and that d/b+3 while buffering a throw is so awesome I'm spamming that in ranked. Thank you for teaching me 🙏
Thanks for the lesson on telegraphing useful 💯
Grerat Vid... As a KING main you showed me 1 or 2 things to consider. Thank you.
Gross.
Beautiful guide!
I knew what to do since Tekken 3 - like mashing the right buttons, now I just have to memorize the inputs. THX! 🙏🏼
I'm on Arcade Stick as well, SON! ❤
This video is absolutely incredible. I'm brand new (only ~15 hours) and I've been getting wrecked by Kings. This should help A LOT, especially while I'm trapped in the low ranks. Thanks!
Awesome stuff, as always
The depth that he understands king and the game itself on top of how someone high level uses king is wild. Had to sub!
Once again Phidx for the people thank you dude
Thank you for doing this on the alpaca map
The throw chart is very nice, thank you!
Thank you for the wisdom!
Thanks brother from a newbie
You just got a sub . Keep them coming 😅
Do more of these pls, I’m soaking up so much information
Not only having to fucking deal with every character now you have to deal with this Kiddie Fiddler
Thnx for the tech!!
I'm going to watch this video repeatedly, and memorize it because those King chains and crazy throw damage has been a pain.
Thank you!
best thing about this guide. is that not only is it teaching me how to beat king. its teaching me how to PLAY king. as a king main. great stuff.
Undercover Kings main here..... thanks for the notes, finna mix up my throw options now XD