Once again, proof Jake is always correct. This is due to a rare time loop where Greek mythology is actually based on a compilation of Jake's videos, but that compilation is only made decades in the future.
Theory: Jake is a time-traveler who met Homer, Hesiod, and their Indo-European ancestors where he explained mythology to them. He taught them by showing them these very videos.
Whenever Kratos decides to look for a third mythology to slaughter; that's pretty much what Jake is gonna do when people say "What about Kratos in *insert defunct culture* Mythology?!
Definitely agree with this take. Claiming that the ancient Greeks had an entire "God of Stupidity" off of one reference from a work of _comedic fiction_ and a much later Roman reference that doesn't seem to refer to a god at all seems like a pretty big stretch to me.
Meanwhile Christians use stupid references to a good two justify genocide. Hell, the religion “Jesus” belonged to uses a delusion to justify ritualistic genital mutilation of their kids, sk likely anyone that believes in gods is likely just a drooling idiot whose family tree is likely shaped like a wreath.
@@bobroberts2581 That's... a little bit off topic. But I guess I'll bite. On the one hand, I'll second the condemnation of using religion to justify genocide (I'm an Ex-vangelical agnostic who deconstructed in a large part because I couldn't make ethical sense of the Canaanite genocide, the Flood, Hell, etc.). On the _other_ hand... the assertion that _any_ human who espouses _any_ form of god belief is a "drooling inbred idiot" is not one that lines up with my personal experience. Broadly, I think it's an error to treat large religious groups as if they're monolithic. Certainly some Christians have used their beliefs to justify genocide. Others have used them to justify pacifism. It's a religion that's existed for nearly two millennia and is currently followed to some extent by about a third of humanity. Of course it has variations (it would frankly take a miracle _not_ to). Also, just to note: the archaeological evidence for circumcision _faaar_ predates Judaism (like, potentially by _thousands_ of years). And there _are_ some actual scientific studies that suggest it can be effective at reducing the risk of STIs like HIV. Which is certainly not to say that it has no drawbacks or that better solutions couldn't be found or that its always done for logical reasons. But I _do_ think it's likely that it didn't start and stick around for as long as it has purely because of a delusion. Finally, just a tip, you _maaay_ want to make sure to spell check your comments in which you disparage other peoples' intelligence, as it may somewhat undercut your points otherwise.
@@IMINYOURWALL5 Maybe they made the comment while it was still in the Premier phase, but before it was uploaded. Can you do that? It's a meme response that doesn't actually require you to watch the video, so it's possible.
I have seen a fair bit of cases where certain "Greek Gods" appear to be more "references to abstract concepts" than actual characters. Koalemos seems to be both that and an elaborate joke.
The thing that makes it fuzzy is that gods can also serve as embodiments of abstract concepts. But they tend to also have other roles and personality traits, while daemons seem to be more one-note.
What do you mean do you mean? Like there are other Greek gods that you don't think are God's and think that are just jokes, not Referring to one's that basically everyone knows but like once that are Mentioned once or twice like koalemos.
@@Tanystropheus10 I mean that there are some figures in ancient Greek mythology that don't feel quite like characters so much as abstract concepts being talked about like they're characters.
@@CJCroen1393 Chaos is definitely a character but theyre more treated as a concept, so the god of stupidity might be on about the same level as primordial chaos
I’ve learned more from you than I ever have in school about Greek mythology. (and i had a class where we spent a semester-ish learning about greek mythology and stuffs)
I love the dedication jake has to staying accurate and as close as possible to the ancient sources, while simultaneously being the ultimate authority for all mythological knowledge.
There's this book called Marvel Year In Review 1993, which contains the following line: _""Holy Hannah!" shouted Captain America in Secret Defenders #6. Who, you ask? Why, "Holy Hannah" is better known as St. Hannah of the Funnybooks, patron saint to Golden Age superheroes (As opposed to "Holy #%&* !", patron saint of '90s superheroes.)"_ So basically, "Koalemos the god of stupidity" is like if someone two millenia from now read that line and took it as literal fact.
What about Achilles you should do him! (And also I have always wondered weather or not he actually existed as he fell in the Trojan war but is also a demigod)
It is possible that he existed and he was a young yet very talented and skilled soldier whose prowess made people believe he was a Demigod, we actually have similar people like simo hayha and Leo Major, one is a really good sniper and the other one managed to single handedly recapturing a city from the nazis. If those people were alive back then,they too would've shared the same ''demi God'' status as Achilles and the other Acheeans and trojan warrios. That's my guess
My personal opinion is that most of the Greek mythological heroes and demigods (and perhaps even some of the gods) were real people whose stories became embellished over time.
Thank you for including me in your video. I love your vid and your video got me in mythology (mainly greek) so much, that my friend call me a nerd. Btw Love from india❤🇮🇳
I'm thinking in the 1st reference to Koalimos the joke was that he doesn't exist. It's like us saying "It says gullible on the ceiling". So Koalimus is made up, to say "only stupid people would believe in a god of stupidity".
Super cool, these vids are always good, I’m still waiting for a follow up to Egyptian mythology, I am currently working on a video game inspired heavily by Egyptian mythology and like to consume ancient Egyptian themed media while working. Maybe some vids that went over more gods, for example gods like Bast and Bes, maybe some stuff on Khonsu as he is interesting for his gambling, you could tell the story of khonsu and thoth gambling for 1/72nd of the moons light 😅.
There are many gods so it gotta be hard to keep track of all of them. Like many people don’t know that Thanatos is the God of Peaceful Death, and the Keres, the Goddesses/spirits of Violent Death.
So us thinking that the Greeks had a god of stupidity is like how future humans will think that gamers in the 2000s actually worshipped RNGeezus? Gotcha.
Ah well thank you very much for informing me and the others of this. And I'd like to apologize for questioning your expertise. I really need to do more deep thorough research on things.
In defense to the people who brought up Koalemos, I read Aristophanes' The Clouds. There was a part where the main character, an old farmer named Strepsiades, is talking to Socrates, who is proposing new "scientific" explanations for natural phenomena. As Socrates is disregarding the gods, Strepsiades says something along the lines of "Isn't the rain caused by Zeus peeing through a sieve?"; and I actually took that seriously as something the Ancient Greeks believed.
To be fair, who would worship a literal "God of Stupidity"? Which makes me immediately think a) this is a made-up deity, sort of like the whole "Mesperyian" thing, or b) this isn't a god at all. And your explanation of him probably, at most, being a daemon checks out. It wouldn't be the first time people attributed godhood to an ancient non-god as a means of simplifying the mythos/legend/text for their reader.
if you want to be all philosophical about it, by nature, you have to have optimized stupidity to have the worst outcome, which would give you the most, and most important/valuable hindsight, rather than just plain stupidity, which cab sometimes accidentally lead to positive outcomes. Great vid! super interesting
2:43 Haha I can nnnot read ancient Greek as well even though I am from Greece I can only know how it sounds and what it says only from what the word sounds like in modern Greek (by the way we do learn ancient Greek in Greece I just never learned it)
CZcams knows whats up xD They turned your sarcastic end line in this video into a hilarious joke bcuz right after you say that, it cuts to your end screen and what vid shud pop up but "I got some stuff wrong" 😂😂😂
Koalemos is the reason for Patrick Star from SpongeBob SquarePants, Cosmo Cosma from The Fairly Odd Parents, Billy from The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy, and Mario from SMG4
For someone who was on internet for quite a time and remember time when there was no internet. That time when you needed connect your phone to read mails. 4:304:38 never make that statment.
Side note: is the sausage maker becoming leader of Athens where we get the idiom, "There are two things people shouldn't see how they're made: laws and sausages."
Challenge time Jake! Make up your own Greek god or goddess and make a whole video about them, basically trying to make them seem legit, and at the end reveal that they are made up. I’m curious to see what you come up with!
The Greek you referred to you said was "Ancient Greek", but isn't it Koine Greek you show on the screen, and the time period so I'd put it into Koine and not Ancient Greek territory?
I wonder if it was sarcasm, like how someone says, “Great idea, Einstein!” , when a plan has gone horribly wrong. What if Koalemos was really a genius and it was lost in comedy?
Once again, proof Jake is always correct. This is due to a rare time loop where Greek mythology is actually based on a compilation of Jake's videos, but that compilation is only made decades in the future.
lol there was probably an ancient prophecy of jake in greek mythology.
You really got people out here acting like Jake isn't an immortal entity who wrote all of Human History billions of years before it even happened.
"Decades"
Theory: Jake is a time-traveler who met Homer, Hesiod, and their Indo-European ancestors where he explained mythology to them. He taught them by showing them these very videos.
@@MPHJackson7 Yes but that's all in the future for present-Jake.
People today seriously thinking Koalemos was an actual god is the ultimate not getting the joke in history. Probably.
The most ancient r/woooooosh
He could have just been made up as a joke deity of stupidity like "lol, this is who the rulers REALLY worship if they act this dumb."
Koalemos is actually the God of Epic Pranks
The most ancient r/woooooosh
The most ancient r/woooooosh
Imagine being so dedicated to your channel that you would love to make a pretty much unneeded part 3 to a series
Whenever Kratos decides to look for a third mythology to slaughter; that's pretty much what Jake is gonna do when people say "What about Kratos in *insert defunct culture* Mythology?!
@@videogollumer jake: "Kratos was so minor he made koalemos seem like prometheus in terms of importance."
I’d love to see a part 3
@@projekttaku1 I doubt he would say that.
@@videogollumer *no*
Definitely agree with this take. Claiming that the ancient Greeks had an entire "God of Stupidity" off of one reference from a work of _comedic fiction_ and a much later Roman reference that doesn't seem to refer to a god at all seems like a pretty big stretch to me.
Meanwhile Christians use stupid references to a good two justify genocide. Hell, the religion “Jesus” belonged to uses a delusion to justify ritualistic genital mutilation of their kids, sk likely anyone that believes in gods is likely just a drooling idiot whose family tree is likely shaped like a wreath.
@@bobroberts2581 That's... a little bit off topic. But I guess I'll bite. On the one hand, I'll second the condemnation of using religion to justify genocide (I'm an Ex-vangelical agnostic who deconstructed in a large part because I couldn't make ethical sense of the Canaanite genocide, the Flood, Hell, etc.). On the _other_ hand... the assertion that _any_ human who espouses _any_ form of god belief is a "drooling inbred idiot" is not one that lines up with my personal experience.
Broadly, I think it's an error to treat large religious groups as if they're monolithic. Certainly some Christians have used their beliefs to justify genocide. Others have used them to justify pacifism. It's a religion that's existed for nearly two millennia and is currently followed to some extent by about a third of humanity. Of course it has variations (it would frankly take a miracle _not_ to).
Also, just to note: the archaeological evidence for circumcision _faaar_ predates Judaism (like, potentially by _thousands_ of years). And there _are_ some actual scientific studies that suggest it can be effective at reducing the risk of STIs like HIV. Which is certainly not to say that it has no drawbacks or that better solutions couldn't be found or that its always done for logical reasons. But I _do_ think it's likely that it didn't start and stick around for as long as it has purely because of a delusion.
Finally, just a tip, you _maaay_ want to make sure to spell check your comments in which you disparage other peoples' intelligence, as it may somewhat undercut your points otherwise.
@@matterhorn731 you carefully deconstructed this person so well that they ended up deleting their comment
Yeah me too
It would be like believing in the existence of the Swartz
Not the sequel we deserved but the sequel we needed
Switch those around, and you'd be right.
Why do these say 18 hours ago
Because it was made 18 hrs ago
Bro this video was posted 22 min ago
@@IMINYOURWALL5 Maybe they made the comment while it was still in the Premier phase, but before it was uploaded. Can you do that?
It's a meme response that doesn't actually require you to watch the video, so it's possible.
I have seen a fair bit of cases where certain "Greek Gods" appear to be more "references to abstract concepts" than actual characters. Koalemos seems to be both that and an elaborate joke.
The thing that makes it fuzzy is that gods can also serve as embodiments of abstract concepts. But they tend to also have other roles and personality traits, while daemons seem to be more one-note.
What do you mean do you mean? Like there are other Greek gods that you don't think are God's and think that are just jokes, not Referring to one's that basically everyone knows but like once that are Mentioned once or twice like koalemos.
@@Tanystropheus10 I mean that there are some figures in ancient Greek mythology that don't feel quite like characters so much as abstract concepts being talked about like they're characters.
History
@@CJCroen1393 Chaos is definitely a character but theyre more treated as a concept, so the god of stupidity might be on about the same level as primordial chaos
I’ve learned more from you than I ever have in school about Greek mythology. (and i had a class where we spent a semester-ish learning about greek mythology and stuffs)
I love how everyone stayed in the live chat even after it ended
soup is soup
I love the dedication jake has to staying accurate and as close as possible to the ancient sources, while simultaneously being the ultimate authority for all mythological knowledge.
There's this book called Marvel Year In Review 1993, which contains the following line:
_""Holy Hannah!" shouted Captain America in Secret Defenders #6. Who, you ask? Why, "Holy Hannah" is better known as St. Hannah of the Funnybooks, patron saint to Golden Age superheroes (As opposed to "Holy #%&* !", patron saint of '90s superheroes.)"_
So basically, "Koalemos the god of stupidity" is like if someone two millenia from now read that line and took it as literal fact.
I worship at Our Lady of Fuck. I take great offense to your statement.
Instead of calling someone stupid, I'm gonna tell to "offer libation to Koalemos" instead.
"Might I introduce you to your lord and savior Koalemos?"
I learned of Koalemus in theater class and our teacher sad the same. He was most likely an antic version of Kevin nowadays.
Basically Coalemos had the same amount of canonicity as "the least known greek god" by Studio C
That sketch is pretty funny
The plot thickens
The dumbassery continues...
not as thicc as aphrodite...
What about Achilles you should do him! (And also I have always wondered weather or not he actually existed as he fell in the Trojan war but is also a demigod)
It is possible that he existed and he was a young yet very talented and skilled soldier whose prowess made people believe he was a Demigod, we actually have similar people like simo hayha and Leo Major, one is a really good sniper and the other one managed to single handedly recapturing a city from the nazis. If those people were alive back then,they too would've shared the same ''demi God'' status as Achilles and the other Acheeans and trojan warrios. That's my guess
@@raptormage2209 thank you
My personal opinion is that most of the Greek mythological heroes and demigods (and perhaps even some of the gods) were real people whose stories became embellished over time.
I look forward to seeing this
Super video! Question:Jake will you do video about slavic mytholog?
Probably
@@IMINYOURWALL5 maybe?
PLEASE!?!
You hey you again
Btw: I'm from Ukraine
Would be great
Thank you for including me in your video. I love your vid and your video got me in mythology (mainly greek) so much, that my friend call me a nerd. Btw Love from india❤🇮🇳
I'm thinking in the 1st reference to Koalimos the joke was that he doesn't exist. It's like us saying "It says gullible on the ceiling". So Koalimus is made up, to say "only stupid people would believe in a god of stupidity".
you forgetting koalemos was actually your business brain in action thinking "i can make ANOTHER video about stupid people"
Correct.
Will you make more Norse mythology videos? Thor vs Hrungnir, Thor and Odin roasting each other, Ragnarok. There is alot to make videos on.
Hopefully
thor in norse mythology was a badass from what I've heard.
@@projekttaku1 He is! He once twisted the head of a bull to use it as bait for the world-serpent.
@@humbelduff2916 damn, nordic mythology was metal as hell.
Probably due to who created them.
Keep the great job Jake. Take no criticism
I always wondered why they teach us ancient greek in greek school and this is the first time I've used it outside of school
For propaganda reasons mostly
Jake: No one should ever try to correct me.
Comment section: Challenge accepted.
bUt WAsN't lOKi tHoR's BrOtHeR?
Do or Do Not... there is no try :P
Super cool, these vids are always good, I’m still waiting for a follow up to Egyptian mythology, I am currently working on a video game inspired heavily by Egyptian mythology and like to consume ancient Egyptian themed media while working. Maybe some vids that went over more gods, for example gods like Bast and Bes, maybe some stuff on Khonsu as he is interesting for his gambling, you could tell the story of khonsu and thoth gambling for 1/72nd of the moons light 😅.
Hi! Just found your channel through your Hades video, i love the content 🥰🥰 have a wonderful day!
Now do one on your personal favorite Greek Gods of all time.
There are many gods so it gotta be hard to keep track of all of them. Like many people don’t know that Thanatos is the God of Peaceful Death, and the Keres, the Goddesses/spirits of Violent Death.
Love your channel, has so much potential!
I clicked on this expecting to watch a video and now I’m getting “This Saturday at 9/8c!” Flashbacks.
So us thinking that the Greeks had a god of stupidity is like how future humans will think that gamers in the 2000s actually worshipped RNGeezus? Gotcha.
Wow, even Ephimeitus is surprised
ephimeitus is the embodiment of post nut clarity, while prometheus is the one careful to not knock someone up.
@@projekttaku1 *Y E S*
@@projekttaku1 true
Ah well thank you very much for informing me and the others of this. And I'd like to apologize for questioning your expertise. I really need to do more deep thorough research on things.
The thumbnail is funni 👌
i love how it ends off on him jokingly saying hes always right and then the suggested video is his mistakes 💀
Early! I was learning abt this before!
love ur vids!
I wish there was also more info about Arimanius, I think he's cool
Cool we doing questions now, which god created the most conflict and started the most problems/wars/fights
You should do a video on basque mythology
What is the discord you mentioned? I study ancient greek and would love to assist/learn more :)
In defense to the people who brought up Koalemos, I read Aristophanes' The Clouds. There was a part where the main character, an old farmer named Strepsiades, is talking to Socrates, who is proposing new "scientific" explanations for natural phenomena. As Socrates is disregarding the gods, Strepsiades says something along the lines of "Isn't the rain caused by Zeus peeing through a sieve?"; and I actually took that seriously as something the Ancient Greeks believed.
"isn't lighting just zeus trying to knock up some girls?"
@@projekttaku1 Are you trying to be funny? Because it's not working.
@@projekttaku1 I thought your joke was funny.
@@videogollumer sounds pretentious to me.
@@projekttaku1 Just get rid of it! It wasn't clever, okay?!
you should make another norse video Jake, I like your greek stuff but I want more norse struff >:)
Haha, brilliant. first thing to pop up once the video ends is a video named "I got some stuff wrong". lmao
imagine if khoalemos was the smartest god, but was called stupid because people were to stupid to understand him, so they thought he was stupid
Ohhhhhhhhhhh.
I love how the video enda with “jake never gets anything wrong” and the next thumbnail is “i got something wrong”
I love the cat alert since the last video we all commented cat. Good job 😊 the other stuff good too
I look forward to seeing this in a minute
To be fair, who would worship a literal "God of Stupidity"? Which makes me immediately think a) this is a made-up deity, sort of like the whole "Mesperyian" thing, or b) this isn't a god at all. And your explanation of him probably, at most, being a daemon checks out. It wouldn't be the first time people attributed godhood to an ancient non-god as a means of simplifying the mythos/legend/text for their reader.
if you want to be all philosophical about it, by nature, you have to have optimized stupidity to have the worst outcome, which would give you the most, and most important/valuable hindsight, rather than just plain stupidity, which cab sometimes accidentally lead to positive outcomes.
Great vid! super interesting
"koalemos mightve at best been considered a daemon" I THOUGHT HE WAS SAYING THE GOD OF STUPIDITY WAS CONSIDERED A ME
congrats on your recent promotion to a class
I love you're videos
Hehe, man I realised you haven't done a video on ares.. so can you do a video on ares?...
THERES A DUMBER ONE?! DUMBER THEN ME?!
2:43 Haha I can nnnot read ancient Greek as well even though I am from Greece I can only know how it sounds and what it says only from what the word sounds like in modern Greek (by the way we do learn ancient Greek in Greece I just never learned it)
CZcams knows whats up xD They turned your sarcastic end line in this video into a hilarious joke bcuz right after you say that, it cuts to your end screen and what vid shud pop up but "I got some stuff wrong" 😂😂😂
Can you make a video of every Greek god
Koalemos is the reason for Patrick Star from SpongeBob SquarePants, Cosmo Cosma from The Fairly Odd Parents, Billy from The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy, and Mario from SMG4
“Or a NFT investor” made me laugh
The random cat alert part was so funny to me for some reason
I love these videos
19h ago?
It was a premier which meant that it was up before it actually came out
@@Mykasan The work of Chronos
your pfp is amazing
I like how I just see I got some stuff wrong for the video up next
This is my favourite birthday present for my brother
For someone who was on internet for quite a time and remember time when there was no internet. That time when you needed connect your phone to read mails.
4:30 4:38 never make that statment.
why isn’t this in the mythconceptions playlist
Is there anything interesting about deimos and phobos
Side note: is the sausage maker becoming leader of Athens where we get the idiom, "There are two things people shouldn't see how they're made: laws and sausages."
Imagine if its just the plumbus from rick and morty
I love how you turned a translation error into a god.
Challenge time Jake! Make up your own Greek god or goddess and make a whole video about them, basically trying to make them seem legit, and at the end reveal that they are made up. I’m curious to see what you come up with!
Not the thumbnail being the pointing soy wojack meme
Long story short he isn’t counted because one of the two whole times he has been mentioned it was in a comedy
Can you do a vid about a time ares actually won.. wait this might be impossible
The Greek you referred to you said was "Ancient Greek", but isn't it Koine Greek you show on the screen, and the time period so I'd put it into Koine and not Ancient Greek territory?
I mean.. I kind of WANT him to be a real thing now, just for that design 😂
Would you like to cover some Slavic mythology?
LORD KOALA OF THE SMOOTH BRAINS WE WORSHIP YOU!!!
"...and no one should ever try to correct me again."
The video recommendation: I got some stuff wrong.
Welp, looks like I’m making a new warlock patron
1:10 No, the argument does not have legs, Epimetheus forget to give it some
Can’t wait
A blessing from the lord
It's always a good time when Jake ends his videos being cocky😂😂😂
Make a video about the most smart god or goodness!
Hey Jake you should make the list of the evilest greek gods and goddesses next time
Mythology is fun digging through the scraps of a tradition that evolved over hundreds of years and trying to make modern sense of it.
Jake forgor 💀
"Or an nft investor",, very good example
YES THE INEVITABLE AWESOME SEQUEL OMG
Imagine not being able to read Ancient Greek
Wowie a sequel
From my perspective the Greeks just used that word for another way to call somebody stupid
Oh, but haven't you heard about Ooyeldboud? The god of gullibility?
Ok but where is kratos? i live in Didyma and i saw him lackin near apollo temple
That won’t stop my friend from loving Koalemos
Do a video on the Greek God of bean
I just learned about daemons this week... in one of my computer classes!
I wonder if it was sarcasm, like how someone says, “Great idea, Einstein!” , when a plan has gone horribly wrong. What if Koalemos was really a genius and it was lost in comedy?
This makes me wander something, just humor me I know deamons aren't literal beings, but which is stronger a demi god, or a deamon?
why did i read the title as "There's an EVEN NUMBER Greek God???"