The 2023 Genesis G90 Is the Unknown Ultra-Luxury Flagship Sedan
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Genesis G90 review! Today I'm reviewing the 2023 Genesis G90, and I'm going to show you all the quirks and features of the new 2023 G90. I'll show you all around the new G90, and I'm going to show you everything you need to know. I'm also going to drive the 2023 Genesis G90 and show you what it's like behind the wheel.
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0:00 Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
0:02 Intro
0:30 Cars & Bids
1:22 Can He borrow your car, pleaaaaaaaaaaase?
1:30 Quirks & Features
15:58 The Drive
20:15 Conclusion
20:37 Doug Score
Thank you!
0:00 isn't intro.
It's .. "Thissss.." 🙌🏼
@@hoomanAdnan you're right. I edited it. 🤣🤣
@@kevinerosa I don't know why, but the way he posts it in here, makes Doug seem like he's on his knees begging.
It's weird, really.
@Chrissy Jay uh ... th ... thank you? I think.
I really started to like genesis. They really have a cool unique elegant design language. As fact Hyundai has been killing it in the last few years
Hyundai is literally having a revolution
Can we please stop this "killing it" phrase now, it's overused plus their brand has a renaissance for 3 years now
Unique it is not. Copy cat and knock off yes
@@jc_47 lowbudgetgaming is not killing it
@@rahimi4762 remember when Lexus finally had the same tech as the Germans and had their own design language and nobody said that "Lexus has been killing it!"
This car is gorgeous!! If Genesis ( Hyundai owned) can make an interior like this there is absolutely ZERO excuses for GM and Cadillac to not be on par with this.
If GM can develop V8 advanced powertrains...Genesis has zero excuses to not be on par.
@@ryanl1782 Yea the lack of a V8 kinda lets it down. But that seems to be where we’re headed. Smaller and smaller engines then BAM! electric
And also. Cadillac gave up too soon on the big luxury sedan. An Escalade ain’t it for me.
@@omostim2385 💯. They are trying to focus on trucks only. All the American companies but they lost their market share with sedans and luxury sedans. Germany is leading in luxury and all the others Kia, Honda, Hyundai etc etc are killing it in sales
@@omostim2385 Agreed. But much like this G90, the CT6 just didn't sell. I'd imagine this will be the last G90 imported into the US. If you're not the S-Class of the 7 Series, no one buys these.
It really sucks he forgot to mention 4 wheel steering surprisingly, the reclining back passenger seat with the large foot rests, and the headlights being the thinnest in the car industry, and the (I think UV light) compartment that disinfects whatever you put in it they're all pretty interesting especially the last one and it's disappointing he never mentioned them
He also forgot to show how the rear sunshades operate, Doug's videos leave a lot to be desired TBH.
Interesting you say that as I was saying to myself that Doug seemed to rush through this video. Usually when he is featuring a car with so many "quirks and features" it's a 30+ minute video. But then again I've noticed that trend with videos in general on CZcams, like they are trying to fit their video into a certain timeframe for short attention span viewers. 😏
The video would be an hour long guys.
@@CarlVandenbergamn I wouldn’t have even known about these features if it wasn’t for this thread. I’m sure his Doug score would’ve been higher than both of the s classes if he did review those. Maybe he didn’t know ab it or like u said intentionally left those parts out. Cause I definitely rate this higher than the s class
@@IJUSTWANNAFLYDJIDRONES71the fully reclining rear seats are 100% worth mentioning and would’ve added 10 seconds to the video. He was not aware that feature was possible
When I saw the buttons in the doors to close them automatically, I tought it was a hassle to extend all the way to the door with a button near my sitting position being better. A few minutes after, Doug shows Hyundai put a button for the same function in the armrest. Hyundai being amazing as always.
I thought the same as well.. although I am disappointed at the lack of an explanation of emergency ingress/exiting said doors should the battery die
@@pjschafer5786 look at the bottle holder on the door there's a manual latch 2:25 and as for emergency door unlocking from outside, the door handle can be manually pulled out and the bottom side has a key hole to manually unlock it
You probably drive a Toyota RX450 😂
You know , they are koreans
you're kidding right
I can’t wait to Binge watch all his videos in 25 years and see how much things changed.
Ok
I think about that a lot. Someday these videos will be relics and people will laugh at what we thought was new and cool.
@@DougDeMuro hey Doug! Following you from Argentina since a couple of years 🇦🇷
Would buy this to drive my kids to school. Not available in Belgium...
@@DougDeMuro That's exactly why I love watching those Motorweek Retro Reviews, years from now your videos will be the same kind of time capsule.
I really loved the Genesis, I wanted it to work when I bought my G80 in 2021, but the dealership experience ruined it and forced me to trade it for a brand I knew I could trust to be there to service my car when I needed it serviced. I bought the car from a dealership around 200 miles away, I live in a decent sized southern city in the US, about 200k people. We have dozens and dozens of dealerships for everything except supercar dealerships. I chose not to buy from the local Hyundai/Genesis dealership because they only had SUVs in stock. So I bought a G80 from the dealership I mentioned earlier, 200 miles away..this is very important. I knew with the local dealership I could get service and warranty work so, no brainer great deal. Fast forward to my first oil change about a year later ( i don't drive a whole lot, maybe 5k miles a year) and i book an appointment with the local genesis Hyundai dealership for my first maintenance. I get there and check in, and the first thing the service manager says is..."I don't see you in our system...did you not buy this from us?"...RED FLAG #1. I said no I bought it from the dealership down south. He paused and said give me a few minutes...and left. he came back about 20 mins later and said, "ok we will service it this time, but in the future you need to take it to where you bought it for service..."...I said..WUT?!. Anyway i ignored it as maybe just sales pressure or shaming. 2 Months later i get rim rash and I have the tire package so i call to schedule the rim to be repaired...and im told, "you didn't buy this from us, we are not going to service you, go to your dealer thanks bye."...I was furious. About 3 months later, the owner of the Genesis dealership in my city closed it, and went back to being just a Hyundai, and he actually mailed me (and all other local genesis owners) a letter saying "We no longer work on genesis for warranty or service. We will be happy to repair your genesis or change the oil ...for cash. Do not bring us warranty work we will not do it". I called my original dealership down south and they basically said "yep, this is happening all over the country, nothing we can do about it, just bring you car down here and we can work on it". Keep in mind this is 200 miles away, and I have to take a day off work to do it, as they are closed on weekends. I asked them "what happens if i get up in the morning and my fully warrantied Genesis won't crank".....to which they replied "have it towed and we can work on it...." i said "at who's expense?" and they replied immediately "yours of course we don't pay from transportation unless you are within 20 miles". I hung up immediately and 2 months later I traded it for a 2023 BMW 540i and never looked back. Buyer beware, Genesis is a great car, but their service and dealerships are as shaky and unreliable as a 1 legged stool. Buy one at your own risk and do lots of research in the dealerships near you, call them and make sure they will service you, and that they won't board up the windows overnight and flee to the hills. This is a dealership and manufacturer that still has way too much Hyundai in their blood to be taken seriously as a true luxury brand in the US.
Now that's some good information you won't get in most places. Usually the focus is on the car, but with luxury brands, I guess the dealer and service experience is just as important as the car itself.
It is so staggering how far hyundai has come as a car company in the last 15-20 years so as to almost be entirely new. It's amazing really. I really do appreciate their aggressiveness. If you said that hyundai would have a luxury car brand spin off and try to take on mercedes and put out cars that look like bentleys you'd be laughed out of a room 20 years ago. And now, here we are. 😮
Well it makes sense since Hyundai Kia’s chief designers came from Audi AG & BMW
They've been doing that for 20 years at least... They always had full sized sedans. Just didnt bother selling them outside of ASIA. Check Hyundai Equus, KIA K900, etc...
And yeah, looking like a bentley is not that hard or impressive. If they managed to make it drive and feel like a Bentley, that would be impressive. Right now, the G90 doesnt even manage with the more "basic" germans on the driving aspects. It feels more like an extended G80 than a full fledged full size sedan. An S class is smooth but steady, composed, relatively agile but never harsh. The G90 is like the LS from Lexus. Knows how to be comfy and quiet but thats about it. They're both boaty, sluggish and always technologically and technically outdated.
@@an-dr6eu True. I forgot they had this back in Korea for ages. I think they had to test the markets here with the Equus to judge demand. I think people ate it up and now here we are. Sadly I don't see so amny K900's around.
I'm buying a luxury Hyundai
TBF a 2006 Hyundai Sonata was already a borderline class leader, easily matching accords and camry's from the time and as reliable. I respect today's Hyundai; but actually prefer their mid 2000s cars which were Toyota reliable if you treated them with the same respect as a Toyota owner does for his car. Sadly that's not been the case with their direct injected engines, and my other favourite brand; Mazda same reason no longer my favourite. Toyota are for affordable cars as they still do multiport injection.
I got a GV70. Second car I bought because of doug behind my Kia Stinger.
I LOVE the genesis brand, it took them awhile, but they really nailed their design language. Absolutely stunning cars. I LOVE the new G90, really wish I could afford it.
@Krasnolud Don't know, don't care. Do you have anything to say about the subject of this video? Stay on topic.
It's funny that you bought 2 Korean cars because of Doug when many people here say he is biased towards the Germans.
The rear passenger does not open the door "the rest of the way". The rear passenger pushes the button to signal that they are ready to exit, then the waiting chauffeur opens it the rest of the way, allowing the rear passenger to exit the vehicle.
Damn great observation
Exactly
I felt that
Yeah, not in America
@@mktgfan6230 We all did.
I'm glad someone is doing this because this is the sort of car I like. I drive an S class Mercedes. I like to cruise fast but I'm not really into flying around corners...I was when I was young. I want a big comfy boat that gets you there really as quickly but a lot more comfortable.
It feels to me like this is the direction that Cadillac and Lincoln could have been great at, rather than just giving up when the Germans arrived in the 80s to redefine the luxury car segment. At any rate, good for Hyundai - they've come a long way from the Pony!
For those wondering, the gauge cluster does more than what Doug says. My brother has this car and there is a switch on the steering wheel which is also a button. Pressing it will change the cluster to reveal more menus.
I wonder if he didn't get to spend much time with the car, cause there was some stuff that he didn't mention
Thanks
I was going to say that the screens are pretty much the same as my Ultimate Hyundai Tucson and we can change all that so it would figure a car as feature heavy as this would definitely offer this ss well. Beautiful car.
Not much more. It's nowhere near as configurable as rivals.
@@DougDeMuro Fully agreed!
1. It lacks the ability to use the entire Guage cluster screen as your navigation.
2. The screen remains a square/rectangle with huge black bezels around. That to me is cutting costs! Compare the screen with a 2022 Escalade's infotainment and you'll see my point.
It's refreshing to see a new face in the sea of S classes and BMW 7 series. Even more refreshing is the design that's not completely generic and it doesn't look like any other car on the road.
Never before have i connected more with anyone speaking about cars. When you see an S class on the road, you think to yourself "oh look, an S claas" and continue with your life. You see this, and it's the highlight of your day, even your week.
and the interior design is far better and more tasteful than the modern german rivals which have grown quite plain and boring
A8
@@_0_restart_0_45 Most people don't even know its a S-Class. I would here oh look a giant MB. They all look so identical. Than again most people still don't know what a Genesis is probably.
Absolutely, something new, fresh and different
I've seen one in person. The inside and out. Best luxury car ever.
I reckon you haven't seen many luxury cars then. I oughta..***..#!@@%
I drove the old Genesis R Spec for years and loved it. Now drive a Kia Stinger. I've been impressed with both and the South Korean engineering. I'm seriously looking at the G90 as my next vehicle and was waiting for Doug to do a review. He didn't disappoint.
I’ve been a luxury sedan kinda guy. It’s nice to see some brands are still making them. Dignified engineering and luxury materials.
I always loved the comfort of them and most of the time the performance is enough to have fun
Look out for upcoming Chinese brands, many of them want to extend to western markets and are specifically aiming for premium sedan segments (as that still sells very well in the east). Most of them hire international designers too, and clearly aren't constrained by old minds and thinking that you often find in western established brands that recycle the same template over and over.
SUVs are a western thing. Asia still loves big sedans.
@@Real_MisterSir China apologist go back to your autocracy ass no free speech ass country
Yes but your Chinese car will be made with slave labor and most likely everything in it will break every time you turn around because China makes cheap knock off trash based on stolen IP from western companies.
Genesis is knocking out of the park with their newest models. They offer amazing quality and technology and very distinctive and beautiful design philosophy.
For 100K it better be nice...
@Victor Sale I think hyandai and genesis is passing its competition with ease. Toyota and Honda seem to have nothing to compare.
"Quality" There's a reason why the warranty is 100k miles, it won't go much further lol
“Beautiful design?” That giant grille is hideous 🤷🏻♂️
Except when you go to trade/sell and it ends up being worth $18,500 LOL
Everytime a new car comes out, hes here with a review within a day. Doug is awesome
Awesome review, Doug. Very, very good. You say the exact words someone wants to hear.
Nobody does reviews like Doug. Every time I get a notification of a new video I get so excited. If it wasn’t for Doug I wouldn’t know even half of what I know about cars. Thank you Doug!!
@Pikachu1 spam
Bill from Curious cars is better than Doug
@@paulie-Gualtieri. His rants are truly legendary. Love the guy.
same!! why do people make fun of him tho 😥
Check out throttle house
Just so you know, a fully optioned Genesis G90 costs $101k.
A base model S500 (similar power output) costs $111k.
A S500 with the same amount of tech as the Genesis will set you back a little over $150k.
I've just configured both of them.
Also, a standard 88k G90 will give you Nappa leather, 20 Inch alloys and a 3D entertainment system as standard, whereas you'd have to drop another 10k into an already expensive 111k Benz.
So, if an S class get's a 6 out of 10 for it's value, how can a Genesis, which offers the same amount of everything for 50k less, be a 5 out of 10.
A base model 740i is 93k, so that is pretty comparable, but a base model 740i is the definition of poverty-spec. You literally get partially painted bumpers and an interior that's not made out of leather. A 10K Dacia Sandero offers those options. If you want anything, you'll have to pay. A paintjob that doesn't look like shit will set you back a whopping 5k, and the leather&wood interior will cost you a whopping $7300. Also, the fact that you don't get driving or parking assistance ($2100 and $1250 respectively, cooled and massaging seats (or even a heated option, it's $500 for the heated seats, $500 for the cooled FRONT seats and $1000 for massaging FRONT seats. If you want this for your back seats too, you're gonna have to give another 3k), a good sound system (Gonna have to pay 5k for that, sorry). All in all, a 740i that's comparable to the base G90 will set you back from 100k to 110k, and a 7 series that is comparable with the fully optioned 101k G90 will cost you between 120k and 130k, depending on the drivetrain (either way it will not be more powerful than the G90 3.5T E Supercharged, it's either gonna be weaker or as powerful)
I'm calling BS on this score Doug, this car offers the same lever of quality, comfort and design compared to it's German rivals for a third of the price.
Doug has an unconscious bias for german cars sadly.
Well put. Dougie fails to do his homework again. Marketing folks get overwhelmed with the details.
But it doesn’t feel the same. It’s like my Acura MDX has the same features as a 90k BMW X5 but the BMW drives and feels better. The graphics are more crisp, the buttons feel incredible the build quality is that much sharper. And the S-class interior is on a different class. Seat comfort and feel is on a different level.
@@drhassan6892 And that's why a BMW gets a higher Handling/Acceleration/Fun Factor score. Also, the newest 7 series has a huge optional screen for the back row that looks amazing, but that alone will set you 5k. I'm not saying that the S class and the 7 series are bad cars, I'm just saying that they're severely overpriced, yet Doug somehow makes them look like a better value than a G90 that offers all of their features for a third of a price less. Also, the top end BMW seats look really cheap compared to the S Class' and the G90's seats.
@@drhassan6892 The fact that Doug gave the G90 the same, extremely high score for quality, features and comfort, and yet he gave the G90 a lower value score, despite it being significantly cheaper than the two simply makes me believe that he is biased. And by biased, I mean payed to promote the Germans. A couple of years ago, when Doug was a much smaller CZcamsr, he really did criticize the Germans and it was obvious that he wasn't all that fond of them, but now it seems that he'd turn into a complete billboard for them. I mean he gave a Citroen CX and a C6 a 7/10 for comfort, only a single point above an W211 E55. I've been driven in all three (W211 220 and 270CDi, not the E55 AMG, but the AMG is a firmer car compared to the regular W211), and, even though the W211 is an extremely comfortable car, it is leagues behind a C6 Citroen. The W211 wouldn't even be comparable to a C5 X7, let alone a C6.
But hey, it looks odd that an weird looking and obscure French car beats a German luxury saloon to a pulp when it comes to daily drivability.
Genesis deserves to be recognized more as a top luxury brand. They go above and beyond with their quality of cars for the price you pay
To clearly understand what makes a luxury brand, include the Hyundai dealer experience vs. that of Lexus, for example, before you decide.
thank you. Doug you always know how to bring it when it comes to cars.
We have it in Saudi Arabia with two screens for back passengers along with the screen in the middle for controlling both screens instead of the front screen.
By the way, the middle storage in the back has a uv light to sterilisation and disinfection bacteria on the surfaces of your personal belonging.
This car is quite amazing for what it can provide.
Ohhh 👀
I can see that you are an automotive enthusiast knowing such details and paying attention to them. And apart from the G90, do you have many other unusual luxury cars from 2021-2022 in your family, such as the new BMW 7 or the new S-class Audi S8 to compare with the G90?
In Poland, better comfort than the above-mentioned ones is provided by the AMAZING Mercedes GLS Maybach 2022! A level of luxury, comfort higher than even Maybach S 2022, new BMW 7, A8, etc.
@@montekore374
My father had an old BMW 7 Series but he sold it when it has alot of issues.
I'm an auto glass Tech and I work on a lot of Hyundais and Genesis cars. They are great to work on compared to a Mercedes and the build quality on them is awesome.
Hello doug I love the videos! do you think you would ever do a POV while driving the car? I think it would add a level of immersion for the viewers.
I would have given it a higher score in styling, as I think it looks amazing. I would have made the grill a little smaller and more subtle but still, I think it’s a gorgeous looking car.
It is
I’ve had a 2020 G90 with the 6 cylinder for almost three years now and it really is a serious car. Came from an S500 and it really is just as good if not better ride quality wise. Only one-up the merc had was high speed stability but on Pennsylvania roads that doesn’t do you much good haha
Safe driving at high speeds is a german thing. That's where most german cars shine.
How was the reliability?
@@skiddy527 So far so good only issue I had was some funky paint finish on the trunk lid. Same blue as the one in the video so any imperfections are hard to miss
I agree. Korean cars are horrendous when it comes to high speed stability.
Its wild how much Hyundai/Kia/Genesis have evolved over the last few years. I used to hate their cars and we always called them throwaway cars, and now I own an Elantra, and I have family that own a Stinger and a Genesis that I can't remember the name of. Went from crap cars to legit fun sports cars and good luxary cars. Liking how this is going so far!
But for real though HOW STRONG IS KETTLE?? I need answers
Do you have any issues with the cars or dealer? I really don't trust any of the cars. I think they look fantastic. But they have had so many issues with customers online saying the cars being broken and the poor dealerships I don't really trust then.
I think you either have a great experience or your gonna have a awful experience. They do seem to be better than anything coming from Europe at the moment.
There are still piece of cr4p. I drive an hongQi E HS9 when home in Norway and a Wey mokka when I'm in my second residence in Thailand, and I can tell, koreans cars can't hold a candle to modern chinese vehicles. So much better.
@@mortensenvick5711 you’re hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 Chinese car?!?? Really? Good thing across the world they aren’t even known or mentioned so they can’t hold a candle to korean cars.
@@baronvonjo1929 Listen korean & Japanese automakers work hard at perfecting their vehicles. Yes they may start out cheap but that is part of the plan. Never underestimate your competition. I put them up above the Germans for these reasons. Any car that offers you a 10 year 100k warranty cares about their customers and stand by their product. If u were to have a problem believe me unlike some others they will solve your problem. My father had an issue & they gave him a brand new car.
I really like the styling, it's a beautiful car. the double headlight bar is really unique and looks cool. would definitely get one if I had the money.
@Doug Demuro - Longtime fan and greatly appreciative of your work! Just wondering, as I usually learn about new cars through your channel), how have I not heard about the Rivian S?!! Are you going to review one? When I saw it sold in the auction I scrambled to see if I had missed your review but I couldn't find one. - Once again thank you for all you do!!! Cheers!
With the rear end tapering like it does, it would have been nice to see the inside of the trunk as well.
He also didn't show the foot rest that extends out from the rear passenger seat.
I'm sure it can still fit a person. Maybe two.
Yeah I feel like this review could've been more in depth, of course it's not to take away from the info he got into the video but there's some stuff I wish he delved more into or a little more quirks he could've showed off
No information on the sunroofs either. Or memory settings for the rear seats.
Keyfob: has quilt diamond pattern
Doug: "looks like a soccer ball without the black"
🤣
Quilt is a material.
@@rustler08 quilt is stitched fabric and is famous for its typical decorative stitching which is why it's also used as a common description for a way to create a stitched pattern look in general - even on non fabrics (which this keyfob is mimicking) - and I further added the diamond part to make sure there wasn't any confusion. Quilt, specifically as an interior design term, can be used to describe many materials with a specific stitch pattern - such as fabric, leather, and in this case a keyfob cover.
Yes I know quilt itself defined in isolation is a type of stitched fabric (its not a material, it's rather an object).
Nice review keep up the good work Doug
Flagship sedan segment may be shrinking in the entire worldwide markets combined, but however, Genesis still relies on heavy portion of its sales coming from the home market, South Korea, where these flagship sedans have strong sales. South Korea does have some strange taste in ultra luxury vehicles, once having been the second largest market in the world for VW Phaeton right after Germany, probably third place in the world for S-Class and Ford Taurus was a huge hit although American cars of the era were not favored by Koreans in general. So speaking of large sedans, Koreans still do love them cheap or not. Just to add some more hint, the best selling domestic car is the Azera for many recent years, while best sellers for import cars are ALWAYS either the E-Class or 5 Series.
Its like Toyota from 1957-1977, the difference in 20 years was staggering.
Good thing people there aren't buying SUVs. Hope lives.
@@jupatj24cope
I‘m the typical Mercedes-Benz guy, but this car is supreme, they did a good job with the G90
Thanks for being honest. I love MB, as well, but I can't understand why people want to hate these cars so much
Being radical MBZ owner and fan, I like this Genesis more than 223. 222 is better to me than this G90, but 223 is ugly ....
Gotta mention which Klass, though.
I've owned 5 Mercedes; two(2) W140 S Class, one(1) W124, one(1), W201, and one(1) W208. After owning two S-Classes, the W220 was inferior in over-all quality, and I feel that with the newer S Classes you have to be truly rich to support. Though it was complicated in it's own ways, I can't shake the felling the W140 was the last S-Class truly worthy of it's marquee AND that the regular guy could support.
And for THAT reason, I do find offerings such as this G90 intriguing. It does offer top quality, King of the Road prescence, and gives me the impression that a regular guy might have say "ouch", but could actually support the car after the warranty has expired.
HOWEVER, there is NOTHING, (and I mean NOTHING) outside of ROlls and Bentley like pulling up in an S Class.
THIS Is my dream sedan.. The reason I went to Genesis is because I wanted some quality Luxury without paying high Mercedes and BMW price and also for reliability. No BMW and Mercedes costs.. I have a g80 and I plan to stay with this company!
*So... why buy this over an S550?*
Would be cool if you could show us how the carplay interface looks. I’ve noticed the setup of it can vary alot depending on display aspect ratios and would appreciate seeing how it is set up in every car that offers it
Yes to this!!!!!
It would be interesting to do a side by side comparison with competitors as to what comes standard in the Genesis and what is an extra cost option in the BMW and Mercedes etc. Even though it might appear to be on par in terms of price, once you add on all the optional extras that come standard in the Genesis I expect it would undercut the others by a considerable margin.
Even if the Genesis was equally equipped and in the same price as the Germans I’d still take the G90. The others don’t resonate with me personally
Undercuts an S class by 20k. Undercuts an Audi/BMW by like 10-15K. On par with Lexus.
@@Playb0ymari Same. That goes for any Vehicle genesis has vs the competition. If I want luxury its genesis. If I want sporty, its either a G70, Cadillac CT4/5 V or a Porsche. Regardless of what others say, modern BMWs are terrible drivers cars. They don't feel connected at all behind the wheel. I love the B58 engine, but it ends there.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 The reason why BMWs don’t drive the same is because people wanted more luxury features (BMWs have always been lighter in weight than Mercedes-Benz).
It doesn't matter in this price class.
220k more or less is irrelevant for business man, all they want is the status.
I am really interested to see what sales will be like. I have a feeling people looking to spend over $100k are more likely to buy an S-Class, 7 Series, or A8L.
Will this be a car that resells for like half of this price in a few years? Assuming anyone actually buys many new at $100k+ for a HYUNDAI?
I still remember my aunts old Hyundai PONY, being likely the CHEAPEST built car I had EVER seen available in North America!
they're aiming for rich people that want something different
Stick with LS500
Depends. People who are already used to buying established premium brands, will continue to do so for quite few years to come before ever considering jumping on newcomer products. But for new buyers, and especially eastern buyers, its a different story. There is also an increasing desire to stand out, and when everyone and their grandma has seen 100s of benz, bmws, audis, etc for decades with not much new going on, a truly dedicated newcomer like Genesis could be just what they're looking for.
@@notsaab Thst is not gonna work. This won't sell well at 100K
That dash is amazing. Easily the most original design while still being amazing to look at.
I do agree...
Much better than the big rectangular screen that everyone seems to be putting in cars.
@@abrahamcasanova9901 I hate those screens with a passion
I don't like the new dash I preferred the 2021 Genesis g90 dashboard
Genesis is through with imitating their rivals from the looks of things!
Altho I am a Toyota guy, but mad props to Hyundai for their tenacity, innovation and commitment for all the past decades endeavors to achieve something like this. Deserves a medal in the auto world!!
No its a Hyundai. Its shit
Genesis has been garnering attention since last few years and deservingly so. It is a very good option for those wanting a slice of luxury without wasting money on vanity brands.
Shockingly pretty quick, good stuff!
But let`s not forget: thats somehow like how the Lexus LS or the Audi A8 started aswell over 30 years ago. Although i live in an market (Germany), where brands outside Mercedes, BMW and Audi don`t really sell luxury sedans, i hope Genesis makes it here. Their cars are very well built, in some areas even better than the German brands (material quality, for instance)..
It’s not close. This is merely a nice entry after 2 previous tries. The LS rewrote the entire luxury book.
Doug is in love with the many opportunities to introduce fragrance to the interior 😍😍😍
I have a 2014 Genesis sedan and that's what made me love Genesis. I know its not the Genesis Brand, but it shows where Hyundai started with Genesis and I love seeing where it is now. I'll upgrade eventually to a newer one.
I have a 19 g70. It’s so far amazing. Interior is clean crisp and sharp. Paint color is excellent with great lines. I opted for the 2.0 instead of the 3.3 because I couldn’t justify the mpg with the mileage I drive (over 20k a year) and in everyday driving, I wouldn’t need the larger engine anyways. (Traffic, stop lights, speed limits, all I would get is the acceleration onto the the highway to really show off the hp on the 3.3) with that said, it doesn’t have a ton of trunk space or rear passenger space so that’s a major draw back but besides that it’s an amazing car. .. so far.
Same here, but I'm facing an issue, the gear downshifts sometimes not sure why
Hey Doug! Thanks for the video I own a small dealership in NC. Hyundai sure has come a long way. I really like this car, however I wish they would have stuck to a V8 in this car. Maybe a twin turbo V8. Seems like the engine is lacking a little. I remember the last car we had that was supercharged and turbo charged ended in a disaster. It was a Volvo XC90 supercharged turbo. Engine was replaced twice in that car because the supercharger kept blowing to pieces.
The base price of the new G90 is more expensive than the Lexus LS, but even the higher end version of the G90 is less expensive than the LS with similar options. The price of the optional packages for the LS can make the LS as expensive if not more expensive than the top-end G90 shown here
Hey Doug, when you show how the electronic buttons of the back seats (or any seats) work, the camera can not catch the entire seat if you are holding it. Can you set up the camera outside the car, focused on the seat you will show and you can sit on the other seat and just press the buttons of the seat you will show. This way we will see how the entire seat moves. Otherwise, keep up the great work.
Love your videos. Have you ever considered shooting the cars (especially the interiors) at night? In my experience, there can often be differences in usability at night. Also, there have got to be some interesting QUIRKS AND FEATURES(!) that only make themselves known at night, like that Saab night-running mode. My guess is that you don't always have a full day and night with the cars you review, but if the opportunity arises, I hope you consider it!
Do you really see this channel as one that puts in that much effort? This channel already has reputation and gets viewers with minimal effort videos.
@@trstnhn minimal effort ?? Who else is detailed and more thorough than Doug? When other reviewers were In awe of the Maserati’s exhaust sound, Doug was busy ripping it apart with a toothpaste
@@lani8766 I haven't seen that video but I can't imagine what you're describing as being high effort solely going off of the videos I've seen from this channel thus far. Do you think this specific video, the one we just watched together, is a high effort review?I mean, this isn't specifically on Doug. I'm of the opinion that the majority of the car review videos out there are low effort reviews.
@@trstnhn So a 20 minute video that goes into detail about every nook and cranny about the car is low effort… How high are your standards by the way?
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Exactly. The camera work is not so much effort. He should hire somebody
Genesis showcases the future of luxury sedans with every iteration. They already have a G80 EV and the GV60 as well.
The older G90 was already hands down the most beautiful luxury Sedan imho made since bmw stopped making the E38 7 series 20 years ago, seeing Genesis just push further and further so fast is insane. Now the G90 has the looks and all the features, and in actual likelyhood beyond timid car journalist afraid of germancar fanboy backlash; the refinement to take on a loaded out S-class.
3:24 This reminds me of XBMC circa 2013
a home media mangement software that often used images like a satellite dish to configure the network, or a slide show on a portable projector screen for 'system information'
My favorite was the 'interface settings' having a pencil and a ruler
I currently drive a 2017 G90 and LOVE it! Want to upgrade to the new one soon!
I've been waiting for this Doug review. These cars look so cool! I'm really impressed with the Genesis brand.
Criminally underrated brand right now, they are killing it!
They both fortunately and unfortunately, will continue to be the best used value for money, although they're also the best NEW value for money 😉
Who should go to prison?
@@pistolen87 Doug
it sucks, thats why
I had a 2009 Genesis an i absolutely loved that car! It saved my life being a heavy car
Looks like they did a good job with this car. One major thing that is lacking is status and the dealership experience. Customers that fork over this much money want status and to be pampered. It will be interesting to see how it sells at this price point. My guess is it will struggle.
I love the new genesis. They have really stepped up their game lately
It was like a Korean garbage heap, and it remained. Korean cars are the worst!
Hyundai have come a long way to create vehicles like this. I like it actually. Quality and materials all look nice. A pretty compelling car overall. It does suffer a bit on brand recognition though as Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi come to mind when one talks about full-size luxury sedans.
I like how you review/walk-through these vehicles, it would be cool if you did class B RVs or Motoerhomes
I have a 1st gen while it was still badged as a hyundai and it still holds its own with new luxury cars. My favorite part is the look you get from Merc owners. They can't figure out why mine is bigger and nicer than theirs lol they tend to think it' some fancy special model
The one thing Doug didn't mention, that I feel like he should have, is that this car can come with 4 wheel steering
this is, in my opinion, the enthusiast choice. the kind of person that says “my friends all laughed but i love it every time i drive it”
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Me, talking about my turbo Santa Cruz.
Doesn’t seem like it emphasizes performance.
I love this Car🔥. Great effort from Genesis!
Very nice review, Doug , like usually
Personally I think it's delivered on the brand name by now. Graduating from Hyundai's equus to now and it's g90 I think it's about time people realize they make a consistent worthy product
Those rims are very nice also.. compliments the car really good
And the infotainment dial can be used like a smart phone on its flat top area to swipe in any direction to control the screen instead of rotating/pushing it
Saw one of these the other day, I was like damm that looks good
I have notifications super on for this channel! Just can't get enough of Doug's reviews!!! Been a follower for a while!!! And he's just evolved to be sooooooo awesome! Even more awesome than he was already was!
@@aidaaliten8817 what's that ?
This is what they used to call an executive sedan. Not quite a limousine. But close. This is what I'd expect a Wall Street big shot or a senior government official (think ambassador or cabinet level) to roll in with a chauffeur and bodyguard in the front and the master of the universe comfortably ensconced in the rear. My only real complaint is that the extended length version is only available in Korea. Well, that, and the fact that I'd have to win the Powerball to be able to buy one.
P.S. I actually find the lack of name brand recognition a feature. It marks you out as someone who is not just going to follow the pack.
Agreed, this is a great car for someone who wants a luxury vehicle without drawing the attention of a luxury namebrand. And now that I realize a similar optioned S-class is actually 50k more than this vehicle, I would say the value is a bit better than Doug gave it.
Nice to see someone who thinks just like me haha. Gotta love the underdog. But sadly most of the richest are a bunch of fomo herd lol
Sat in one 2 weeks ago, and it's fantastic 👌. Get one with the white interior. It's amazing 💯
12:27 Hoping you cover more Driver Assistance tech on new cars in the future, Doug! Nobody ever really covers it except for The Straight Pipes, so I'd love to see another reviewer hop on board! Especially because it's getting so good in cars now!
Used to work for car marketing company and got to see a bunch of the Genesis vehicles before they were rolling out. Truly beautiful and luxurious in person, and glad to see Doug talking about more of them.
I LOVE these G90's. Nobody looking at Genesis' could understand spending that much money on one...until they got in and drove it.
That reading pocket is a really nice touch. Perfect size for a tablet or small laptop, too.
I have an older model 2019 G90 - it is the best car I have ever owned. When I got the car, friends and family would tell me: Why did you buy something made by Hyundai?
Once they took a ride in the car, they understood that the Genesis was every bit as good as more conventional luxury brands, and it was significantly cheaper to purchase and service. I think the new 2023 Genesis is the best looking full sized sedan - it stands apart from pretty much everything else on the road, and those wheels are beautiful. However.... if it is priced at $100KUSD, it loses much of its appeal.
I’m definitely gonna choose this masterpiece over any German luxury car🔥🔥🙌🏻
Facts
Meh
For 100k hell no
Let's show support for Genesis for putting effort on the segment
I own and love a 2019 G90. Does this new model still have the heads up display, that is one of things I like most about mine.
Two comments from this review (great job btw Doug). 1) If you option out a BMW or Mercedes like the top end Genesis (shown here), then the G90 still is the bargain luxury sedan. 2) The "wow factor" you mention from owning a Merc or BMW, would be there IMO driving up in a Genesis G90, because then you get to talk about this rare and awesome car! That would be why I would get this car! I love what Genesis is doing. Thanks.
I think rare and awesome isn't as important as the brand image in that price category. Like if i had to choose between the two, I'd pick the S Class.
It’s hard to break into the Luxury car market, very few people will buy an over 100k vehicle that isn’t mercedes bmw or Audi
and for very good reasons actually
I will buy German
Yes, luxury market is not won over in a short period of time. Especially the flagship segment that goes over $100k. But Genesis is doing pretty well with their sub $100k models. I'm seeing a lot of Genesis where I live.
@@trstnhn I see their suvs everywhere not so much the cars
@@trstnhn I've seen very few in TX so far, but that may change
Great review as always, Doug!!
One thing I absolutely despise about Hyundai/Kia/Genesis in particular, is their chassy dynamics over uneven surfaces. I could see your camera shake and hear thuds seeping inside the cabin. Went back to see your 2021 Mercedes S Class review and that thing does not shudder like this car. It just wafts...
Hands down Hyundai has come a long way in terms of technology, design, and engine reliability. But they are still far from 'perfecting' the chassy behavior, suspension, and road manners.
I can vouch this car is more reliable than a Mercedes, but the 'Supercharged, Turbocharged, Mild Hybrid Engine' is bit of an overkill, when they could have just stuck with a V6 and a slightly larger Hybrid system, or even a V8 if emissions weren't an issue.
Finally, Genesis used to be a brand that delivered nearly the same amount of luxury at a very competitive price. They got rid of that factor too!!!
Not true about the last point (competitors will cost 20-50k more if you option them out, unless you want a crappy engine, no high end materials, no heated/vented/massaging seats, etc.), and I haven't driven this one, but having owned a Genesis sedan and a V8 G90 I haven't seen them behave poorly on crappy roads. They've been better than most cars and SUVs and I've been in or tested, and that's without air suspensions. I look forward to testing this new model out and comparing the feel over the same road surfaces.
One more cool thing is that when the door is open and you want to close it from out side you can do it from Key-fob all open doors will be closed
Or just you tab on the door handle gently and it will close automatically
I know I'm watching this through a camera and a screen, but the viewing angle on the screens looks amazing.
Great review, Doug. I was halfway expecting that you slot this as the “new Lexus” luxury done better than rivals (1989 LS400). I think Genesis has come a long way but some of the design language and materials just make it awkward and make it overpriced at over 100k. I think even 75k would be a bit of a hard sale given the brand recognition and quality of Hyundai/Kia’s (catching on fire/premature engine failure).
Price range is a big mistake, they can never rival against competitors like lexus or benz. If I had money the only reason I'd pick this would be a lower price range with other perks that would come with it that would lead me to consider buying it over the other brands
100% This should be a $70,000-80,000 purchase.
Pricing is still a bargain compare from the competition, it maxed out at 100k which is where most of them start or end up being 50k-100k more.fully equipped
@@megatronusorionpax4900 issue is no one really cares about the " extra" at that point. No one asked for it and many don't need it. I rather drive a lexus without a lot of the "extra" bonuses that genesis comes with because frankly you don't really need them
I have one.. It's absolutely stunning. Only issue is service dealerships are rare to find
It's hard to not recognize Genesis as a luxury contender.
I test-drove the GV80 a few days ago and was amazed by this brand.
to be a luxury contender both the vehicle and dealer experience need to be worthy. Hyundai retailers haven't a clue and that's what Genesis owners have to deal with.
I find the car very interesting. Would definitely own one over an S class just because it's different and has limousine presence. The electric door popper has been included in 7 series for a long time and a youtuber recently uploaded a video reparing all that door mechanism and it's insane. It may be cool but all this yatchs are extremely complex. Also, the doot automatically closes but the button is just below the door handle so you stil have to reach 🤔
Looks like you didn't watch the video. ;) There's a door close button on the centre console.
@@kevinklassen4328 i watched it! Just found that one redundant or unnecessary
Do Hyundai sell the Genesis range here in the UK, I don't think I've ever seen one. I would want to know how well everything such as all the electric features in the interior have lasted after 20/30k miles. Not sure if it's anything where like a Lexus for example where nothing seems to fail, ever. I'm guessing the warranty package is very competitive to compete with better known, more established brands.
Yes they sell them in the UK and they are on the road. You have to go on their website to arrange a test drive as they come to you or you go to one of their test drive days
I have a G70 and it is fantastic. Excellent quality. Great to look at and a beautiful interior that is the best I have ever seen. It is a best value buy.
The interior is so beautiful and looks so inviting. It should be expected when you get a 15K price increase in one year. I think it's still well priced and competitive in a very tough segment.
It has a "Driver's awakening" fragrance, super comfortable reclining seats and soft pillows. I'm surprised it doesn't come with blankets. It feels like Hyunday is trying to tell you that they really trust their autonomous driving system.
It's a really (really) nice car. I'd get one if I was in the market for a luxury sedan. A luxury SUV (even Ferrari realized that) would be a more reasonable choice today.
I agree. I think a luxury SUV would be awesome.
You should really review the manual Genesis coupe Bk2, I think they’re severely underrated
I have a BK1, amazing sports car!
Love that Genesis is getting better and better every year!! Disappointed that they got rid of the V8 though...
Also.. when are u gonna review the new Rivian R1S SUV?? Theres already a few of them sold on C&B and u didnt review it yet!! What happened to my boi Doug?!?!
Not disappointed to hear about the twincharged V6, though. AFAIK this makes it one of only 9 production cars to have ever been built with one.
I miss the V8... at least shoulf have added V8 in the G90 limousine
Genesis hasn’t been around very long, but the G90 has been in this segment since introduction. It keeps getting better. The “value” offered for the money is it includes features found on more expensive models, like the door closing.
Meanwhile Cadillac & Lincoln have been around for decades but still haven’t offered anything in this segment.
The thing about it is, I love the new Lincoln’s but ever since they basically got rid of majority of their sedans for more suvs. They messed up big time. All they could’ve done is bring back a big name like continental (execute it the right way) or town car and they could’ve easily have a car in this segment competing with these cars.
Douglas how do you go about picking colors for certain vehicles you review?