Explaining the Evil Eye to Sam Harris
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- čas přidán 13. 11. 2018
- Many New Atheist types use the example of the evil eye to typify superstitious ideas and social behaviour that is irrational. I try to explain the manner in which something like the evil eye can make sense to a modern person.
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My son loves to make up super hero’s on little flash cards. He draws the character and then assigns them powers and how much damage each power does. He made a super Mom card. One of her super powers was a disappointed mom glare. It was on of her most damaging powers.
This is awesome
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Growing up in a black community a term was used a lot was "eyeing me" fights often broke out for eyeing someone. Its something surreal. You could feel it. Never put that together till now
Steven Anderson I grew up in Crumlin in Dublin in the 70’s. It was a fraught time with the epidemic of heroin and gang violence. You could get the shit kicked out of you iff you looked at someone “the wrong way”. Many a fight started on my road from “ looks”
Haha, wow. Crazy.
Steven Anderson precisely!
A trip in the poor neighborhoods on the Balkans can show you how seriously people take someone looking at someone in the wrong way. If you walk up to someone and tell them "Why are you looking at me like that?" you are bound to get into a fight, even though they might have not even noticed you. That's how serious it is for people.
Thats COMPLETELY diffrent the evileye is when you not looking and their give you a nasty look.
Jonathan's nervous laugh after he says something kind of terrifying is the best haha
Dominance is exerted first through eye contact....it is a very powerful form of non verbal communication
Wow
That's why I open my eyes as wide as possible and make nonstop eye contact without blinking with everyone who approaches me.
I also dont talk to them because talking is for betas.
@@bigfoot3866 can you elaborate?
I have a small Ictus fish on my wrist and a bigger 3D cross on my other forearm.They give me an opportunity to witness if people ask about them.They also remind me of the price Jesus paid for our sins,and to stay on the right path.U hoped he would have went into the history of the evil eye.Interesting subject all the same.God bless.
Yeah like cloud bursting. Nimbus got an attitude huh? Sparkly eyes for the humans
reminds me of the Spongebob episode, where Squidward didnt believe that a anti sea bear circle would protect him. Spongebob and Patrick explained the concept to him by talking and even showing the literature. But he refused to accept it just like the intellectual arrogance (Sam Harris) he represents. He consequently was exposed to all the horrors of the mighty sea bear.
Folthbear an intellectual
This is downright scholarly hahaha spongebob was more than a sponge, man, I'll tell
@@efleishermedia i don't even know sponge Bob gang!!! :-(
If he had a magic conch this wouldn't have happened
Now society is wearing the proverbial sombrero and stomping around playing the proverbial clarinet.
A really prominent modern day example of a "magical" talisman is the AA token, which is of course used to ward off the "evil spell" of alcoholic temptation.
You could even say evil spirits.
What about the wedding ring?
Not a very useful magical talisman if most of these dried out drunkards run right back to the bottle after step two of twelve.
@@Trigger_Nash There is a distinct difference between a trinket and a talisman.
@@lontus-racref the most significant difference seems to be the spelling.
Some people call it the "evil eye." Some call it the "death stare." Some might even call it the "cold shoulder." I like to call it "protestant excommunication."
That's not the same. Evil eye is not the same as cold shoulder or death stare. It exists in other cultures like Islam and Hinduism as well. Hindus believe Evil Eye specially emanates from negative emotions like jealously and envy. In a populated and close knit community someone's gaze filled with envy or jealously can cause them to rob you or to gossip about you and destroy your reputation or sabotage you.
Instagram and social media is a cesspit to that. People are flashing "perfect life" to others and others feel jealousy, envy, shame, etc. Those negative emotions are like a curse that can eventually come back to bite those who have no humility and flash their wealth or health in a egoistic way. And more often than not, a disaster strikes them and they lose what others envy.
In the case of the protestants and the cia, it might be the same :O rimshot
Ojo
clothing and adornments is one of the topics you should include more often. It's one of the best bridges from the modern world view
Andrew Nelson yes I would love to hear more on this...especially when it comes to status
I feel like it's also worth remembering that if somebody is giving you the evil eye glaring at you is probably not the only bad thing they're doing towards you. People talk and up and take other actions against each other that are too small and settle for even them to be consciously aware of. Malice is a really powerful force even if it's so repressed that a dirty look is the only overt manifestation of it.
Benjaminy2k exactly! And it’s so easy to witness that it can inspire others just witnessing it to re-evaluate you and start their own little hate campaigns against you. Those penis talismans at least get everybody giggling and break the tension.
I think you just inadvertently explained why hippies carry crystals in their pockets.
They don't care about rational meaning, really. They just want the right "vibes".
To remind them to "vibrate"?
@@cruelpulse well yeah.. but same goes for most people using amulets and the like.
@@teenmagican What meaning does the crystal actually carry? What is it doing for them? It would tell you a lot about their world view.
@@sonofphilip8229 the crystal vibrates at a certain frequency or something like that
That's exactly why i never take off my aluminium suit
If you had an aluminum tent, you could at least take it off at night.
Ah but Aluminium underpants, there's 'proper' protection.
😂🤣
You only need to put a small piece in each war haha
I wear aluminium condoms before sex.
It strikes me, particularly in this video, that the modern world has a blindness to certain aspects of our society without any understand of their foundations, or Genesis. Things are taken for granted; which is striking because we parade around as though as is explained through the materialist world view. However, it's not and that view takes a lot for granted.
Ronald D. Potts This comment intrigued me, can you give some examples of blindness to certain aspects
@@chickenjuice4841 this is an old comment but I figured I'd add anyways: In Evolas' "Revolt Against the Modern World" he goes into depth on how traditional humans didnt just view the world as physical, there was even more beyond what you can see. There was a whole other world around you that involves superstition, magical things, and other such stuff. I'd reccomend reading up on it if you want more on the ideas, I'm not the best to explain it here
On one of my treasure hunts, I found a large glass eye in a second hand shop. At first I thought it was just someone's art project until I looked into it some more. It's called a Nazar amulet, and I ended up making a mandala to hang in the middle of! :) It's supposed to ward off the evil eye, protect you from it. Reminding you to keep your eyes open to the reality around you in terms of relationships with people. Your subconscious picks up on micro emotions, whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. Understanding is power. :D
Loved this free flowing format. Would love to hear more on the subject of magic and its use.
Thank you so much Jonathan for doing this the world is a strange dark place without the understanding of symbolism.
Glad you mentioned the effect it can have on other people. Imagine you go to work, and walk into the staff room..and say hello to everyone. People say hello, but, one or two people give you the evil eye (and you don't notice)..(but others do)..it sows the seed of doubt in their eyes. Why are they looking at you like that? Did you do something to deserve that look? Are you not to be trusted? They now have a suspicion (no matter how mild) about you which could effect their interactions with you in the future. It would hold more power too..if the person giving the evil eye was in a position of authority.
Try farting in an elevator containing only you and a stranger and you'll see the evil eye in action! lol.
In a way is like when people claim there's no love but "only chemical reactions in our brain"; to quote Nietzsche: he who dwells in empiricism alone reduces himself to a worm crawling into the dust of this earth.
The art of giving the ol' stink eye.
I recently had an encounter were a person stared me straight in the eyes it was a very strange feeling I could tell the person had a deep rooted hatred against me I stared back at this person it was almost like we were both two soul energies staring at each other.
You should be very careful of the evil eye sometimes those who stare you straight in the eye are trying to figure you out and are speculating you through previous negative misconcieved prejudice assumptions about who you are whislt not really seeing the real you and still maintaining an intense cold stare filled with hatred.
I only pray to God to help protect us from the evil eye and evil spirits who wish to harm us with there inner innate preconcieved hatred. 🌸💕
Ergo, giving someone the stink eye is a subtle yet potentially davastating form of violence.
It's what SJWs would call a "micro-aggression"
@@RSanchez111 It'd be fun to translate some of their jargon-peppered speeches with a traditional vocabulary. Wouldn't be that far off from some shamanic cursing against the enemy tribe.
The evil eye can be applied to a narcissist or psychopath stare. Communities that are more social in person may unconsciously or inherently have the ability to detect evil people and not necessarily evil due to one's past, but because of genetics that cause them to be more cold or self centered. Hence a narcissist or psycopath living in a community.
Your discripton of the evil eye is really good! Keep up the good work!!
As a kid it was fruatrating to hear people about eyeing someone but never explaining how or why it works.
That made pretty skeptical of customs that im starting to understand now.
Thanks for explaining.
Thank you for this. I’ve been trying to research and find information from people that understand the dynamic.
I loved your explanation with which I agree 100% but it made chuckle because I could see disaster coming with every word you said. Everyone is gonna get mad at you John. Believers will hate your explanation because you’re making the super natural physical and the New Atheists will because you are giving credence to “irrationality”. You´re gonna make as many friends as Spinoza or Jung did but you´ll be in good company! Welcome to the club 😄
As a Believer I don't feel that it diminishes God if he works through the structure of Reality which He created.
My faith allows me to experience parts of reality that have always been there, but I had not been able to access because of my wavering actions.
As charming as Spinoza ... there's a left handed compliment ... LOL
I’m a believer, an Orthodox Christian, and I don’t hate his explanation. I think it’s right on the money.
@@juliepaine532 looking at someone in a way intended to hurt them is evil, right? I don't see the issue.
It is nothing supernatural. It is just nonverbal communication and psychology. Most atheists do not hate religious people, they hate what religious people do to other people in the name of their religion to appease their imaginary friend.
I love your laughter as you hit on a new idea!
Appreciate this. I first encountered the ancient notion of evil eye in my mid-twenties during a short mission trip to Equatorial Guinea. Upon my return home, I read "Death by Envy" by Fr. George R. A. Aquaro. Those greatest afflicted by the evil eye are those who cast rather than those targeted. Although ancient ideas about the evil eye were bound up in misinformation regarding the nature of sight, Pageau does a wonderful job of explaining how the psychological effects of "viewing people" can affect both the viewer and viewee in a profoundly real and spiritual sense. I believe I exhibit extremely mild manifestations of scopophobia of which the evil eye explains quite easily.
5:44 in this video. Jonathan, I am a long time viewer and subscriber, and I just love the way you laugh at the worst / best moments. It's your spiritual gift. Love all of your work.
Thank you for this explanation. It comes to me at the perfect time in my life. Not just to understand it but, to actively apply it in a positive and meaningful manner.
5:35 that kind of passive aggression can be very destructive. Leaves you wondering where the Hell you actually are.
In narcissistic abuse, this is called gaslighting. You make the victim wonder what they did to get those looks, ("did I offend them? how? what did I do to warrant that?") and then block them from resolving the situation, bring in some "flying monkeys" to confuse and destroy them further. I have seen this happen in a work situation. The victim of this 'look' may be triggered to fight back, and then will be accused of being 'crazy.' This is so common and people have their lives destroyed because someone chooses them to target. It goes way beyond bullying, and the victim cannot report "she looked at me funny" or "no one will talk to me" to HR. In one case, the narcs would stand behnd a person who was seated working, and just look at the back of their head with disgust, and others would notice. If the person being stared at "felt the look' and turned to see, the others would avert their eyes. Crazymaking evil making every day an utter hell.
One has to remember that the ancient Greeks thought that the eyes emitted rays. Plutarch's scientific explanation stated that the eyes were the chief, if not sole, source of the deadly rays that were supposed to spring up like poisoned darts from the inner recesses of a person possessing the evil eye. Plutarch treated the phenomenon of the evil eye as something seemingly inexplicable that is a source of wonder and cause of incredulity. Pliny the Elder described the ability of certain African enchanters to have the "power of fascination with the eyes and can even kill those on whom they fix their gaze". So the "evil eye" has a direct relationship with mesmerism/hypnotism.
The phallic charm called fascinum in Latin, from the verb fascinare, "to cast a spell" (the origin of the English word "fascinate") is one example of an apotropaic object used against the evil eye. They have been found throughout Europe and into the Middle East from contexts dating from the first century BC to the fourth century AD. The phallic charms were often objects of personal adornment (such as pendants and finger rings), but also appeared as stone carvings on buildings, mosaics, and wind-chimes (tintinnabula). Examples of stone phallic carvings, such as from Leptis Magna, depict a disembodied phallus attacking an evil eye by ejaculating towards it.
In the Aegean Region and other areas where light-colored eyes are relatively rare, people with green eyes, and especially blue eyes, are thought to bestow the curse, intentionally or unintentionally. So watch out .. I've got bright blue eyes! lol.
Among those who do not take the evil eye literally, either by reason of the culture in which they were raised or because they simply do not believe it, the phrase, "to give someone the evil eye" usually means simply to glare at the person in anger or disgust. The term has entered into common usage within the English language. Within the broadcasting industry it refers to when a presenter signals to the interviewee or co-presenter to stop talking due to a shortage of time.
Fantastic! I loved this explanation. It resonated with me better than other videos.
Jonathan's intro reminds me of the highbrow shows that our version of the BBC, here in Australia, used to produce in the 60s.
I identify with the examples you gave and have seen them played out in my life or in other's that I've observed. I've always known what you've explained to be true, but in an intuitive way and I wouldn't begin to know how to articulate my observations and experiences. Thank you for doing that for me!
The whole argumentation was breathtaking. wow.
This was a good presentation! Thank you.
Your explanation of our modern-day talismans was a very fascinating perspective. Thanks.
You are the first person I've come across who actually GETS IT.,... thank you 😌
Oh the evil eye is real and powerful. The way people see you, that influences on the conscious and subconscious levels, communicates to others that they have at least the eyers permission to attack, it gets conspiracies started, and changes how you view them back and where that whole relationship goes, often toward tragedy. Consider Cassius looking lean and hungry in Shakespeare.
I'm not sure why my feed is giving me all these old videos, but it's cool.
Thanks for your explanation Jonathan, it helps me a lot
This is really good content but I think you would keep the focus of your audience better and get a much sider audience if you edit video or images to illustrate your meaning
Well said, he has much potential just needs the tune up.
I rather appreciate the lack of polish. Feels more genuine and easy to relate to.
@@mrwiggiewoo exactly.. I understand him perfectly. I never understand the putting of images which many CZcamsrs do..
Thank you my friend for enlightened information
Many will take heed! And will forever be aware
We are now aware....
Kabalah
Amen
Super helpful. During the start of the pandemic I remember Orthodox people recommending putting crosses on doors. Something that, from my protestant background, I just couldn't get. When I asked no one could really explain it other than by saying "because we are Orthodox" which left a lot to be desired. This video helps me a lot to understand. So thank you!
What you're saying about magic around the 12:00 mark is spot on. I've just been reading The Golden Bough for the first time and Fraser has done a good job of explaining precisely that. It's something I'd never realized before, and now I'm seeing it all over--first example that comes to mind is Jacob's imitative magic with the speckled sheep.
I can clearly recall certain looks that were cast my way decades ago, and the effects of some of them reverberate to this day 😤
Really glad you illustrate how the seemingly superstitious has a very practical and tangible manifestation in the world!
Would you do a follow up on this topic and speak on the metaphysical applications of it? Is it purely psychological? Is there a way to communicate the metaphysical aspect of it to skeptics?
Hello, not seen the whole video yet but I'm at 7:13.
This is very interesting, thank you.
I think one could probably measure the effect from the caster's facial expressions. One could also measure the distraction of the victim by the number of times he/she notices themselves thinking of the caster each day. Don't give up on measurement!
"and then you can really start to destroy them" *laughs heartedly*
Great video! Really appreciate you explaining this.
I'm a fentanyl addict who has been clean 2 years now. My only brother passed away in October from an overdose and I'm new to an Orthodox Christian church in Kentucky. Inquiring at the moment. But I've been attending catechumen classes. Your videos have helped me get through the hardest time in my life. Thank you. Glory to The Father to The Son and to The Holy Spirit.
This is so wild. I had a dream that pointed this out to me, saying what my “talisman” was. I had been using it for years in that capacity without even knowing it or what a talisman was. I recently had another dream that dealt with the evil eye. I was scared to do something because a man would “put the evil eye on me” if I did it but it felt inevitable. Later I placed something near the man and he was frozen, wouldn’t interact with me. I now realize that was another talisman.
I’ve been blown away at how my dreams have been directing me and clarify what I’m confused about. And the more I delve into the symbolism through various avenues, and especially exploring Christianity after years of being atheist, the clearer the lessons/messages become.
Thank you for your videos Jonathan, they have been very helpful.
Very interesting... Would you mind explaining what those tailsman were?.
This is known as the “teacher look” in education
I didn't believe in the evil eye, always sounded like nonsense to me.
Last year i accidentally became a believer.
The evil eye is definitely a real thing.
It's weird and unexplainable, but REAL!
The hyper-analysis of human behavior in contrast to ones own. It reminds me of social anxiety. Also the reminder that the psychologically impaired remain saner than most in this info/tech world we find ourselves haphazardly participating in, i.e. social media.
Well a few minutes in and I’m thoroughly convicted of the way I look at my family sometimes 😬🤭🤦🏻♀️
It is a sort of magic. I do tons of hiring for big teams... When someone wears a nice aesthetically pleasing suit to a job interview, I not only remember them but I think to the level of attention to detail they put into dressing well. Tells me more about them than all the phrases/catchphrases/buzzwords/keywords they memorized and parroted out. And people who pay attention to details tend to do well in a lot of difficult jobs actually. There are people blessed with interview skill and communication/social skills, and they sometimes do horrible in jobs where work needs to be done.
The impact of social rejection or ostrastasiation is even more potent in a soceity which is only made up of those immediately sorrounding you. To go through something like that may be a fate worse than death, which is likely why the doctrine of forgiveness and theosis is so central to the Christian belief structure.
Today with the internet there are whole communities structured online, the physical from and their relationship don't have the impact that they used to.
It'd be interesting to go further into the comparison between social rejection and purity spiralling, I think there's room for deep theological rumination in that topic.
I had an experience, a brief interaction with a spiritual guru during which he glanced in my direction directly eye to eye and the light from his eye was a piercing brightness that I had not seen before or ever since.
That hilarious. This came up in my playlist right after video of Peter Boghossian reading the hitpiece letter published anonymously about him, supposedly from his peers.
An evil eye?
i believe i have done this without knowing. i have stared at people, and prayed but really feeling like i was projecting my thoughts into the world and waited to see results. it did seem like my thoughts affected that person in the moment and it was amazing
Interesting discussion. Thank you!
Half way through this video and this all make sense! Brb going the finish the rest :)
This is completely true, I had this experience as an 8th grader in jv soccer, one of the coaches never spoke to me and gave me the evil eye ever since the tryouts. I was one of the better players and a starter at the beginning of the season and I ended up having my worst performance that year, unable to play and temporarily losing my passion for the sport. I still have an image of his eyes in my head at 22 y/o
This information is useful.. now I can use this to protect myself.
Great video! I've never seen someone explain it so well. Can you please recommend a book or video where you talk more about how magic and superstition were viewed in medieval times?
When you burst forth in laughter during explanations it's as though you are being startled by a revelation that has suddenly been revealed.
And yet presumably, you are aware of the truth before the revelation surfaces.
It's like singing, you know what singing in key sounds like, it's the manifestation of it that brings delight.
Humour - the delight in revelation through manifestation?
Mr Pageau, what do you think of the interpretation of "turn the other cheek" that posits that there was a law at the time that required two smites to justify defending oneself?
"and then you can utterly start to destroy someone... HAHAHA" that was creepy xd
I always laugh in the worst places. I have laughed while being threatened with a gun, so...
@@JonathanPageau I'm trying to imagine a situation where you were being threatened with a gun.
You trying to explain symbolism to a biker gang again?
@@efleishermedia I lived in Congo for 4 years. Enough said.
@@JonathanPageau Ahhh, yup. I hear you. Great work as always Mr. Pageau, your work is as inspiring as it is necessary. Thanks for being a warrior for good.
Again great video! When are you going to address the meaning of the supernatural within the symbolic frame and how to relate it to the transcendent?
Explaining anything to Sam Harris is a waste of time
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So true! Sam’s ideology does not care about reason. Simple lies disguised as complex and thoughtful answers.
@@Koolyococo whats sad is how many repeat his words, almost to a fault. He had a debate with Dennis Prager where Sam said "facts are sacred" *sigh o the brains of this guy
@@stevenanderson4515 What's wrong with him saying that facts are sacred? Typically religious language?
@@ludvig5597 a value of a fact can be sacred. A fact is meaningless without value, a fact can be evil viewed through the wrong lens of value.
When I started teaching little kids in South Korea I learned very quickly that raising my voice to get them to quiet down and listen was hopeless. Thankfully, I quickly learned the 'superpower' of 'the look.' It was waaaaaay more effective. It's amazing how these things can cross cultures as well. Some things seem universal.
love it, good work
Despite being very much an atheist/materialist at the time, I bought a charm at a Buddhist temple that is supposed to bring good luck to travelers. Partly it was just an interesting souvenir, but also I figured that if I attached it to my motorcycle tank bag, it would serve as a good reminder to remain vigilant on the roads.
Be sure to keep the majority of your weight on the balls of your feet and firm up your glutes.
@@kennyg1358 Yes, I did a few track days in my riding career. Although, I have a kid now so my street riding days are probably behind me. My last motorcycle was stolen anyway.
It's their intention behind how their looking at you. Eye expression, tells you everything. These people are skilled in wicked schemes, munipulation, and lyes. They are no one definitely to be jealousy of- because those type people -lead you to make choices to deliberately exclude them as friends. And it makes life happier
You explained the Talis and the evil eye great!
By Pageau's standard, would the book "How to win friends and influence people" be a book of magic spells?
Does Pageau believe in magic acting at a distance or does he explain it all as psychological phenomena?
cool video Jonathan. let me see if i got this straight, the phenomena of the evil eye describes a somewhat vague and hard to objectively trace act of negatively impacting someones life by creating and propagating a negative perception of them through subtle behavior cues to the target and the surrounding community that manifest in a multitude of ways such as lowering general opinions of the target, or the targets own thoughts being troubled by said perceptions inhibiting confidence, concentration or self actualization. all factors that lead to careless accidents, social relations being negatively distorted and the targets self-worth declining.
No I don't think it is vague, I think it can be weaponized in a more direct manner and have more devastating effects through technical mastery at levels it is difficult for us to understand in modern cultures. I think that it would not be unthinkable that someone is given the evil eye and dies the next day.
thanks for clarifying. i admit to having trouble understanding these concepts as my home country where i grew up has a very individualistic, and objective worldview as the norm. If you ever find the interest i would relish hearing more about these phenomena in the context of modern communication tools such as Facebook for example. I think the hyper connected yet dissociative nature of online communication could make for some really interesting reflections regarding changes in how these phenomena manifest.
I bought my first cross necklace today, a simple, small silver cross on a chain.
I never wore jewellery before so I still feel weird about it.
It's been on my mind for a while, discussed it with a friend of mine recently, and then when this video came out I thought it was time for me to do so
A cross is an ancient symbol, a Crucifix has the true meaning. Please wear it close to you. It is not a fashion item. ☺
@@nepsisyianni33 I'm keeping it underneath my sweater, I don't put it on display
lGalaxisl What’s the meaning of wearing a cross? Why should a Christian do it?
Well explained. Thanks
Sam may not believe in the evil eye, but his debates with Jordan Peterson show he definitely believes in the evil *applause*! 😂
Sam is testament to the result of Universities....EVERYONE can get an education, including idiots. His thinking is way too linear, arrogant and simple minded, he's not an idiot just willfully ignorant. If he didn't had a system to provide education for him, G'luck. Most people are like so. He's a product of his time, NOT a changing factor. Zero Wisdom.
My closest friends do this to me and so do people a work and worked with... they stare at me and I watch them from the corner of my eye, it's always made me uneasy and honestly I convinced myself I was delusional and I changed my life in many ways because I I knew I couldn't over come this delusion but maybe this will help me not doubt too much what of what i see
Stare right back into their eyes and manage your energy
This is why I have a large pentagram tattooed over my heart. It's not an easy thing to explain, but from now on I'll direct people to this video.
Thank you… I just realized that my obsession with evil eye (nazar boncuğu) might be connected with my narcissist parents. I remember as a tooddler that they could “controlling” us with their looks. And now, as an adult living in a narcissist society, I need much more evil eyes to protect me. 🙏🏻😹🧿🍀
I see this eye a lot in frequencies I listen to for relaxation and decided to check this video out to see what it means. Now I really feel like I’m tripping.
I also thought of the eye of Sauron (Jonathan perhaps you can explain what happens when the evil eye is scaled up the hierarchy.) Also thought about the Bible passage about putting on the whole armor of God.
The Eye of Sauron is an interesting subject. It took me a long time to understand Sauron's motivation, but eventually I realised that it's fear. Sauron is frightened (look what happened to his old boss), which is why he wants to see everything, to control everything, to neutralise every threat. Do people who use their eyes to daunt others, as Johnathan describes, have the same motivation?
Would love to hear your interpretation of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics. It’s kind of crazy that this is repeated there even tho it is removed from our experience
Also crazy how rationalist are so devoted to their world view that they would rather believe in infinitely many worlds than believe that consciousness affects reality
The first thing I ever painted was a psychedelic hand with an eye in the center. I learned about the hamsa symbol afterwards and it gave me the Willies, feeling like this idea is somehow baked into my brain.
Jonathan, what do the Holy Orthodox Fathers say concerning the “evil eye”? Please advise.
Is another phrase for the 'evil eye' the 'narcissistic gaze'? You correctly describe people wanting to destroy others which is what narcissists do for personal pleasure or the thrill. For a while many movie and game cover arts employed this gaze as a way to be dramatic to pull in the attention of the customer.
The way I looked at it is that it is a means by which a person looks to someone. Similar to the way you describe it. But basically a means by which you look down on someone or shun them. I was thinking kind of like subtle scarlet letter.
hey Jonathan, would you be so kind to do a video about that Gaia like witch in the netflix movie Apostle ? I'm curious what you can unpack from that!
I said on Twitter that I would present my explanation of how people came to conceptualize the evil eye under your video. Fortunately, your video turns out to contain almost the exact same thing. I put more emphasis on the "negative attention" element in the sense of abusive relationships where one part pays close attention to what the other does and mostly punishes desirable behavior and rewards undesirable behavior. I had nothing to say about talismans, but of course, they could have such an effect.
Your description of the evil eye seems eriely similar to my interactions with my uncle. Though I think it might have a lot to do with my own perception. Is it possible to give the evil eye by accident or to perceive the evil eye where it is not?
I've pondered this question from the other side. Sometimes we walk past a complete stranger and they smile and it makes our day. Then the question is who smiles first? Is it possible for me to smile first? Yes, possible. Imagine giving a 'genuine' smile to 100 people while walking in your neighbourhood each day. I live in a great neighbourhood.
5:40
"You cam utterly start to destroy someone...Hahaha"
Being an orthodox Jedi leaves its ticks over time I guess. He does it quite a bit though his videos haha
Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts. No idea if you still go back and read these comments. My question would be (as a Catholic); would you reduce wearing a crucifix, for example, to the purely psychological dimension. I believe both to be true. In the "visible Church", sure psychology is the reason, but in the "invisible Church", what effect does the image of Christ crucified have? What does it mean to ignore this aspect? Thank you.
I believe you are describing second order effects. Complexity theory might be relevant here, great stuff. Manners of acting are participatory knowledge, ala John Vervaeke. So wearing a talisman is all about moving your attention onto the possibility and back off of that possibility. Signalling is a really important concept. So nudge, but changing or redirecting your attention helps you to increase the odds that you'll do better. Love that you point out that we see the negative side of this easily, but miss the positive side.
The existence of the belief in the Evil eye reveals a deep mistrust we have of others.