It is good to see Toyota has moved beyond the expense and customer inconvenience associated with periodic timing belt changes. Buyer beware, some other automakers are still stuck in the past with inferior designs that will add a lot to the maintenance bill over the life of the car.
While an inconvenience and added expense for someone who is not mechanically inclined, for those who are, timing belts make engines much more reliable. But Toyota timing chain engines are solid
He keeps saying lifetime as if some models don't last 300k or more past there expected death. I'm at 379k and I'm sure my chain is lose and I chang my oil every 3 to 4k and with the best oil out there well 1 of the 2 depends on my money.
Stuck in the past? Timing chains were used long before belts. They're the past. Cars are being made now with belts that last 10 years, 125,000 miles. And for all that life there is near zero stretch. Chains elongate through their lifespans as the link pins wear. Changing a timing belt takes a few hours. Chains are a much bigger, more expensive job.
Define "life time of vehicle". Play on words viewers, chains do need to be replace regardless on manufactures recommended service of car/truck. Chains stretch over time and make noise when worn, belts just snap with out warning.
Chains do not stretch , they wear. If the manufacturer uses a good chain and you service the car ( oil) every 7 to 10000 miles with the correct oil and filter you wont need to change the timing chain.
@@jessicaoswell7361 the "tentioner" is usually a spring loaded plunger pushing against a curved (slightly)arm that the t. chain slides across.oil is pumped through the tentioner from where it is fastened to the engine out a small hole in the end of the plunger "hydraulic"not changing the oil could block that oil port .or reduce the amount and that is where some if not all of the timing chain assembly gets its lubrication
Super. I always make inspección on my local de dealer in guadalajara mx. I loved toyota. These cars has a smooth drive, excelant performance and the most loved caracteristic. Low fuel consuption.
Thank you for sharing the information. I was wondering if I needed to replace the timing chain on my 2014 Sienna. My Sienna is well maintained and kept at a proper interval with oil changes and haven't had any engine issues that I can think of
@@FredAndersonToyota Thank you for getting back to me. I looked under the hood of my 2011 Sienna. I just noticed the engine type 2grfe v6. That engine has a timing chain. As long as I keep up with the oil changes the chain should last a long time. I was not sure if the 2011 Sienna had a belt or chain. I was thinking if it had a timing belt it would require a possible replacement and that would require opening up the engine. I think my findings are correct. If not please let me know. Thank you again for your helpful content. Winter tips for a reliable vehicle. Thank you.
Good information. Does Toyota have any maintenance schedule for timing CHAIN inspection and/or maintenance? And did Toyota engineers provide an "inspection port" so that this could be done with minimal effort?
I have a car that has only traveled 40,000 miles and will be 10 years old next year. According to the manual, the timing chain must be replaced after 10 years! I am now trying to figure out WHY, as it feels very unnecessary to change the chain on a car that has been driven so little 🤔 My car is a Chevrolet Spark 1 liter engine. I know this video is about Toyota cars but I can't find any information online. Hope someone reads this and give me some guidance 😄 and hopefully can explain WHY the timing chain already needs to be replaced.
Timing chains usually become noisy on cold starts...rattling noise for about 3 seconds...if the engine is completely silent, the chain should be OK .the silent type chains become very noisy on cold starts, and should be replaced immediately...ie BMW, VW tsi, and Merc 271 compressor &CGI engines....yeh they call them silent...what a joke.
OHC timing chain components all need to be inspected for wear. Plastic chain guides get brittle with heat and age, these break and fall into oil pan. It's a time bomb when this may happen, so get it done to protect from surprises. on a road trip.
My Toyota Corolla s 10' has a timing chain and 440+ thousand miles! If this would have been a civic I probably would have had to change it 5 times or more!!!
nope, as he said in the video, timing chain last the lifetime of the car, which means it can go hundreds of thousands miles, and this is for pretty much any car that has one
@@tonyj8935 nope again because the Honda civic uses a timing BELT not a timing chain.. I've had to civics in the past a 01' and 06' both broke on me.. the Toyota uses a chain and not a timing BELT
@@davehibbs9111 you're wrong, all honda civic models from 2006 and newer use a timing chain. ( the 2001 you had was a timing belt though ). i highly believe you when you said that the 2001 and 2006 broke on you ... because they were the worst year models you coud ever get, they both had engines problems.
@@tonyj8935 believe what ever you want it's of no concern of mine. I've had 19 cars since 77' some were good and some were bad. I know what I had and I know what problems I had with them!
the A/C service port cap was missing on this car just to let you know like the Toyota tech said it true the timing chain system should last the life of the engine if the maintenance is done right but this does not apply to all manufactures I work on Europeans cars and I can safely say that not all engine with a chain will last the life of the engine and this applies to North American brands too and most timing chains jobs are very expensive especially if the chain system is bettwen the engine and transmisson witch is not that uncommon. I personally like belts they are more quiet and if you follow the manufacture intervals it going to be ok.
That's fair enough explanation , but what about the 2 types of belts fitted to later Fords Diesel engines ? My Haynes manual NEVER mentioned the cassette type or ('wet belt'as it's called ) LOCATED INSIDE the engine . Why change just the outside one according to HAYNES MANUAL ??? I don't understand , who is right here ???
I'll never buy a car with a timing belt. I'm sure the chain on my V6 Camry will last for the life of the engine. If you buy a used car with a belt you immediately have the expense of changing it because you have no idea if the previous owner changed it.
This is BY FAR the most useful video about my 2011 Camry LE possible issue As an advanced network tech, this was " Textbook" teaching .☝ Very much appreciate the accuracy, alternate example, and your awesome contribution to the automotive industry 🤝 **QUESTION **" "Did you ever think you would see the a Camry on a NASCAR track?" .....😅 I SURELY did NOT #ToyotaOWNER
It's simple if the engine has a double timing chain it can't be beaten....if it's got a silent type chain don't buy it, it will cost u a lot of money,,you'll hate that car,,,I can promise u that...
Even if you got a timing chain you got a lot of bullshit parts around it witch makes u have to go all the way to the timing chain basically anyway your taking your whole engine apart basically smh 🤦♂️ witch is doing now for a tention sensor for the timing change a cheap ass plastic peace straight nightmare or I got to pay 4 grand smh
Thanks for watching! Please leave a comment with your vehicle repair or maintenance questions. We'll try to answer them...have a great week!
Can you tell me is it common for 2015 Avalon to have steering issues.
This guy doesn't only sales cars, but also gives important information to Toyota owners. Thank you for doing that
Timing chains lasts longer
It is good to see Toyota has moved beyond the expense and customer inconvenience associated with periodic timing belt changes. Buyer beware, some other automakers are still stuck in the past with inferior designs that will add a lot to the maintenance bill over the life of the car.
While an inconvenience and added expense for someone who is not mechanically inclined, for those who are, timing belts make engines much more reliable. But Toyota timing chain engines are solid
He keeps saying lifetime as if some models don't last 300k or more past there expected death.
I'm at 379k and I'm sure my chain is lose and I chang my oil every 3 to 4k and with the best oil out there well 1 of the 2 depends on my money.
Stuck in the past? Timing chains were used long before belts. They're the past.
Cars are being made now with belts that last 10 years, 125,000 miles.
And for all that life there is near zero stretch. Chains elongate through their lifespans as the link pins wear.
Changing a timing belt takes a few hours. Chains are a much bigger, more expensive job.
The timing chain on my 1998 Cavalier is still holding up at 150K.I need another 7 years out of it.
most of the time it’s not the chain that goes bad , it’s the tensioners.
Define "life time of vehicle". Play on words viewers, chains do need to be replace regardless on manufactures recommended service of car/truck. Chains stretch over time and make noise when worn, belts just snap with out warning.
Chains do not stretch , they wear.
If the manufacturer uses a good chain and you service the car ( oil) every 7 to 10000 miles with the correct oil and filter you wont need to change the timing chain.
How does old oil affect the longevity of timing chain ?
The hydraulic tensioner go bad without new oil ?
@@jessicaoswell7361 the "tentioner" is usually a spring loaded plunger pushing against a curved (slightly)arm that the t. chain slides across.oil is pumped through the tentioner from where it is fastened to the engine out a small hole in the end of the plunger "hydraulic"not changing the oil could block that oil port .or reduce the amount and that is where some if not all of the timing chain assembly gets its lubrication
Glad that the industry is moving back to timing chains. It was a terrible idea to move to belts. One less expensive hassle to worry about.
Super. I always make inspección on my local de dealer in guadalajara mx. I loved toyota. These cars has a smooth drive, excelant performance and the most loved caracteristic. Low fuel consuption.
thanks for a detailed explanation.
Thank you guys for making this video possible for us. That was such a wonderful video indeed! I really appreciated the Master, Ali Usta!
Frequent oil changes will make a timing chain last as long as the car...i got 420,000 on my car and towed it to the junkyard running like NEW!
Then why'd you tow it to the junkyard? Could have just driven it there, or better, you could've sold it.
@@stewoe7157 some states forbid vehicle above certain age. they'd revoke the license of such vehicle.
Wow
@glowiever what state does that, if it passes smog / inspection ?
Thank you for explaining the difference I've always wondered keep up the great work
Got 260k miles on mine and never changed it as long as the oil changes get done on time and the oil is at he proper level it will last 300k+
Hi Diego
Will you say the same thing for a Vauxhall Astra semi Automatic
Have you ever own a Lexus they are made by Toyota no? Looking at a timing chain car for a Change
Chain For the Win!
Timing chain tensioner go bad and they cost more to replace and service. Timing belts are simpler
Thank you for sharing the information. I was wondering if I needed to replace the timing chain on my 2014 Sienna. My Sienna is well maintained and kept at a proper interval with oil changes and haven't had any engine issues that I can think of
Timing belts have a spring tensioner. Timing chains have an hydraulic tensioner.
Thank you Jeff and Ali. Very helpful. Can you guys discuss head gaskets on Sienna Minivan?
Hi Mike! What specifically do you want to know about them so I can ask Ali? Jeff
@@FredAndersonToyota Thank you for getting back to me. I looked under the hood of my 2011 Sienna. I just noticed the engine type 2grfe v6. That engine has a timing chain. As long as I keep up with the oil changes the chain should last a long time. I was not sure if the 2011 Sienna had a belt or chain. I was thinking if it had a timing belt it would require a possible replacement and that would require opening up the engine.
I think my findings are correct. If not please let me know. Thank you again for your helpful content. Winter tips for a reliable vehicle. Thank you.
Thanks you guys for let me know that
Timming chain on Mazda 2013, 473630 km still running
Good information. Does Toyota have any maintenance schedule for timing CHAIN inspection and/or maintenance?
And did Toyota engineers provide an "inspection port" so that this could be done with minimal effort?
No
Don't matter if it's a belt or a chain. They still have to be change. And it's the tensioner that goes out first.
Great video and explanation. Thank you!
Nice to know
I was giving to my jetta 2014 in time oil change and maintainance and timing chain just pop at 150k. The engine is gone.
I have a car that has only traveled 40,000 miles and will be 10 years old next year. According to the manual, the timing chain must be replaced after 10 years! I am now trying to figure out WHY, as it feels very unnecessary to change the chain on a car that has been driven so little 🤔 My car is a Chevrolet Spark 1 liter engine. I know this video is about Toyota cars but I can't find any information online. Hope someone reads this and give me some guidance 😄 and hopefully can explain WHY the timing chain already needs to be replaced.
Timing chains usually become noisy on cold starts...rattling noise for about 3 seconds...if the engine is completely silent, the chain should be OK .the silent type chains become very noisy on cold starts, and should be replaced immediately...ie BMW, VW tsi, and Merc 271 compressor &CGI engines....yeh they call them silent...what a joke.
OHC timing chain components all need to be inspected for wear. Plastic chain guides get brittle with heat and age, these break and fall into oil pan. It's a time bomb when this may happen, so get it done to protect from surprises. on a road trip.
My Toyota Corolla s 10' has a timing chain and 440+ thousand miles! If this would have been a civic I probably would have had to change it 5 times or more!!!
nope, as he said in the video, timing chain last the lifetime of the car, which means it can go hundreds of thousands miles, and this is for pretty much any car that has one
@@tonyj8935 nope again because the Honda civic uses a timing BELT not a timing chain.. I've had to civics in the past a 01' and 06' both broke on me.. the Toyota uses a chain and not a timing BELT
@@davehibbs9111 you're wrong, all honda civic models from 2006 and newer use a timing chain. ( the 2001 you had was a timing belt though ). i highly believe you when you said that the 2001 and 2006 broke on you ... because they were the worst year models you coud ever get, they both had engines problems.
@@tonyj8935 believe what ever you want it's of no concern of mine. I've had 19 cars since 77' some were good and some were bad. I know what I had and I know what problems I had with them!
Thanks
Thanks for the information! Quick question, does the 2AR-FE engine has the timing chains as well?
They say the timing chain will last the life of the truck. What about 1999 toyata tacoma 2.4L with 400,000 miles?
the A/C service port cap was missing on this car just to let you know like the Toyota tech said it true the timing chain system should last the life of the engine if the maintenance is done right but this does not apply to all manufactures I work on Europeans cars and I can safely say that not all engine with a chain will last the life of the engine and this applies to North American brands too and most timing chains jobs are very expensive especially if the chain system is bettwen the engine and transmisson witch is not that uncommon. I personally like belts they are more quiet and if you follow the manufacture intervals it going to be ok.
How do you display oil pressure on dash 2023 Toyota Highlander limited awd.
That's fair enough explanation , but what about the 2 types of belts fitted to later Fords Diesel engines ? My Haynes manual NEVER mentioned the cassette type or ('wet belt'as it's called ) LOCATED INSIDE the engine . Why change just the outside one according to HAYNES MANUAL ???
I don't understand , who is right here ???
Great video
How could I know they fex my timing chain.good
Can we change timing belt to timing chain
Good info
Before it breaks 😀
Does the Toyota chr hybrid 2018 have a timing belt or chain?
Hi, I have a Vauxhall Astra changed belt 38k miles... now car is 88k miles should I have it replaced?
I'll never buy a car with a timing belt. I'm sure the chain on my V6 Camry will last for the life of the engine. If you buy a used car with a belt you immediately have the expense of changing it because you have no idea if the previous owner changed it.
How often should I change the timing belt on a Toyota Pro ace
What does "lifetime of the vehicle" mean? Is that 200k? 300k? 500k?
It’s a play on words like “lifetime transmission fluid” it just means until the car dies for whatever reason. See? It lasted the life of the vehicle
Timing belt built in money maker😨
I have a 92 Toyota mr2 with 78k miles, does it have a chain or belt?
Most likely a belt
Time to change it because a belt should be changed between 80K and 100K so you're almost there,...if you plan to keep it.
This is BY FAR the most useful video about my 2011 Camry LE possible issue
As an advanced network tech, this was " Textbook" teaching .☝ Very much appreciate the accuracy, alternate example, and your awesome contribution to the automotive industry 🤝
**QUESTION **"
"Did you ever think you would see the a Camry on a NASCAR track?"
.....😅 I SURELY did NOT
#ToyotaOWNER
Have you seen a v8 powered RWD Camry on the road? The car you see on the track is not a Camry.
It's simple if the engine has a double timing chain it can't be beaten....if it's got a silent type chain don't buy it, it will cost u a lot of money,,you'll hate that car,,,I can promise u that...
Genus? Are you sure? I think he should retire and continue drinking beer.
Even if you got a timing chain you got a lot of bullshit parts around it witch makes u have to go all the way to the timing chain basically anyway your taking your whole engine apart basically smh 🤦♂️ witch is doing now for a tention sensor for the timing change a cheap ass plastic peace straight nightmare or I got to pay 4 grand smh
Thank goodness Toyota moved away from timing belts.
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Dan! You did it buddy :)