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Compact Categorizer Fix and Troubleshooting (1.16 Update)
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2020
- Some simple fixes for common problem/mistakes with this build.
World download and additional help are available on my Discord server: / discord
If I missed anything please let me know in the comments and share your solutions so everyone can have a nice storage system. :)
You're such a cool guy. Not only do you make a revolutionary sorting system then you proceed to improve it by making trouble shooting videos and you give answers to all people in the comments!
Dex a bedrock functional revolutionary sorting system
Just a note: In the CompactCategorizer116 download available in your Discord link, the 9th sorter column of the build contains a stray redstone item in the droppers under the floor.
This really help I had forgotten to place a normal rail between the powered rail and the detector rail. Thank you this design will serve me well for many updates I hope!
Yea, it only uses core redstone mechanics so it should be fairly futureproof. :)
Still works fine in 1.20.1. I did have some problems with the returning speed, but I fixed it by placing a bucket of snow between the orange, dark blue and glass block at 3:39. You could also add cobweb instead, which makes it even slower, so then you could even remove the piston/observers system that slows the minecart down and let it return in full speed.
I built up your system, it works great. Had to slow down the minecart on its way to the unloader, and leaving like a 30-60 block radius of the system while its on completely breaks it. If you find a patch to this please reply. DO NOT LEAVE SYSTEM ON/RUNNING WHEN YOU LEAVE.
Things I had to fix-
-Slow down minecart track to unloader
- Disconnected the power rail connected to the underneath connection of the input chest detector rail and replaced it with a normal rail (this should fix your on/off system)
-Check your droppers, filter chests, and minecart FREQUENTLY.
-Add some form of player detector to stop the system if you leave.
I'm not sure which one of these were the issue I was having... but I got it to work now. Thank you 😊
No problem, glad you got it working :)
Hi, all. I got it mostly working on Java 1.20.2. The one issue is that my items keep ending up in the bottom chest (not the filter chest) closest to the dropper tower. I made the version with the sticky pistons over the yellow track, and the proper piston contracts while the minecart is moving about, but the items dont end up in that column. I have the glass block at 4:30, so that's not the issue. Any ideas what could be misconfigured? I know it has to be something simple. I'm so close, I can feel it!
Thanks for keeping up the trouble shooting videos. :)
I am facing the challenge your present in 3:25, where the minecart doesn't launch occasionally and then is empty, but I am unsure how to solve it. You suggest to change the two repeater settings, but that doesn't make too much sense to me, since a pulse of 4 tick length should be enough to launch the cart again. I am somehow having the suspicion that it is related to chunk loading/unloading (since it rarely happens) and that the pulse never reaches the powered rail in the first place or that it reaches the rail but the entity movement (minecart) is not processed. I am not really up-to-date to lazy chunks and their ability to load redstone and minecarts. Just also to note: I am playing on Spigot and the system works 99% of the time fine.
I checked gnembons video on chunk loading: czcams.com/video/KnZ5nlQbFvo/video.html
It looks to me as if minecarts can get frozen in the lazy chunk, but redstone (his piston example) would continue to work. I think that would also mean that powering the minecart while in lazy chunk would render the redstone pulse meaningless. If I come up with a different solution to the "minecart stays on the hopper" problem, I will let you know. What are your thoughts on it?
@@Borbarad13 Yea, that's a possible concern, and it's not just limited to the launch mechanism. gnembon has a chunkloading contraption that you can build that could possibly keep the whole build loaded at once.
When I put more than one type of item
The items get mixed and free end up in the droppers below
How do I fix this
Hey, is there any way to fix the fact that when I unload the chunks it messes up? Love the design otherwise though!
Unfortunately no, but that's what the shutoff lever is for. If you have to leave while it's processing then you can turn it off, wait for the current cartload to finish, and then you're free to leave or log out.
That or you could build some chunk loaders to keep it always loaded. Look up 'gnembon chunk loader' to figure out how to build one.
While metamilo is right that technically there is no real fix exept for just shutting it off, you can build a chunkloader underneath your storage system to let it run wherever you are in the overworld. if you are on a multiplayer server you might want to ask the admins for permission first.
Is the first fix for bedrock also or just java?Java?
You also talk about quasiy connectivity with the rail slowers. For bedrock or java because I thought bed rock doesn't have that but I could be wrong?
I don't know what happens in my case, the filters get messed up all the time and the items got stuck in the dispensers below the chests, or get sorted into the next chests... I play in Java 1.16 and my system is linear, 20 chests, so I tried to make the cart go slower, but it doesn't seem to be related. Too noob on redstone to really understand what is going on!
Thanks a lot for the design, the tutorial and the troubleshooting!
*droppers, not dispensers :)
having this exact same issue. every other part of the machine seems to work just fine tho
@@painnigouto1356 i fixed it, some of the rails didn't activate, that was causing some droppers not to activate so the filter items just remained there
@@andresperedo1275 ah, right. at the start i decided i wanted to have 10 slices per wall and then forgot that i did. thanks
I finally got the actual sorter and everything working, but im still having problems with the on/off. What is happening is the rails are actually turning off when I turn them off but when the minecart comes they turn back on. And I have the downloaded map and the on/off doesn’t work on the model either :( so if anyone can help me that’d be great. Thx
I have the same issue. Did you manage to fix it?
@@captaincomrade8056 I have the same problem, have you managed to solve it?
I solved it by changing the sloped rail from powered rail to normal rail, hope it helps.
This sorter is flawed and far from the best alternative. I recommend just building Maizuma Games' sorter. It's a bit more complicated but it's much better
Every item always ends up in the last chest (the one in the slice next to the elevator and unloading station)also the hopper won´t go if I just place a single item on the chest like an iron ingot any suggestions? great video btw
EDIT: I´m using 1.16.1 may that be causing trouble
I think I'm having a similar issue. Did you ever figure it out?
I dont know why but the minecart keeps picking up the blocking filter items from the chests
Target block on bedrock is like glass dosnt let a signal through so I had to use a normal block with redsto but I can't power the rails with gaps I trying to figure it out but on bedrock this design won't work
Hey, I have a problem with the lock dropper the the one block that in it is disepear and in de filter chest the first item disepear too, how can i fix this
wait, where are these sticky pistons on the bottom observers from? not in the tutorial video nor here they are shown
Those aren't necessary, they just make the system quieter by preventing a bunch of clicking from the droppers.
I’m having trouble with my blocker block. Whenever it gets unloaded, some goes through the system and gets sorted into a slice. I am on bedrock.
Interesting. You may need to use a different circuit for the elevator. Either that or move the elevator back away from the unloading station 1 block so that all the items have to pass over the filter before entering the elevator. The filter just needs to pull those items out before they reach the elevator.
metamilo I replaced the hopper below to elevator with a hopper minecart so that it takes the blocker block out before it goes through the elevator
Shot in the dark as it's been so long, but the dropper elevator keeps depositing items into the 2nd dropper quicker than it empties them; leaving 1-3 items behind that end up getting mis-sorted on the next loop. Any idea why this is happening?
it sounds like there are randomly some double-firings at the start, causing the rest to go out of sync. I have no idea what's causing it. I'm on Java and its just a test world before I try it on Realms
Increasing the repeater tick rate to the 3rd notch on the clock seems to have fixed it, though it runs a bit slower.
It's been a while but I think I remember having that issue at one point. My solution was to replace the top dropper with a hopper to limit the speed. Really you just need an extra hopper between the elevator and the slices
@@metamilo thanks for the reply! I actually have that setup already, weirdly the items were getting stuck in the second dropper of the chain though. I'm guessing it's having to do with Realms at this point
Are u going to do a block by block tutorial bcs its rly hard to change if I'm a redstone noob?
His detailed tutorial czcams.com/video/d6Z8tDChqgM/video.html
Why are there sticky pistons with observers on the underside of the contraption? I didnt see this in the tutorial. And how can you filter 16 stack and unstackable items. Sorry i'm just new to this kind of redstone
The pistons are there just to reduce the noise of droppers clicking unnecessarily. They aren't essential to the build so I left them out of the tutorial since they seemed to be causing more confusion than they were worth.
This system isn't configured to handle 16 stackable items. It treats them like unstackables and outputs them to the overflow. You'd need to change the loading mechanism if you want to do 16 stackables. That or just replace the overflow with a standard sorting system.
So actually the one Minecart that is in the hopper in the end is ending up in the overflow chest and 4 of the black concrete is going in the first slot of the Minecart so at the second slot are 15. Any fix ideas? (1.16.4)
Sounds like the filter for the blocker items isn't set up properly.
Hey! (800 subs congrats btw), My Issue is that for some reason most of my items go into the Chest for overflow rather than the chest that was designated for them. Like its 25/75 (being 25% of the time them going into the correct chest) is there a quick little repeater tick i could change to fix this issue?
That probably just means you need to add some delay the the rail track on the bottom.
metamilo which rail track?
I’m having the same problem while using the world download. Didn’t change any block or anything
@@LukeyTim0 the one in yellow my guy, just look at the video, he explains it perfectly at about 5:00
@@metamilo i added a ton of delay, as much as the redstone will allow but i still have this issue
I dont know if this is normal but everytime i put an item through the system that cant be matched to anything else it breaks in a spectacular fashion. this happens especially often with nonstackables. the minecart somehow looses its item in one of the sorter chests and proceeds to suck out filters all across the system
This is likely due to a problem with the unload and reconfiguration steps at the end of the track. It's probably slowly loosing blocker items untill it has extra spaces then on it's next run it starts breaking filters. Watch the cart as it goes through unloading and reconfiguration to see if this is the case.
Hit this dude with a subscribe! Doing wonders for small server smart storage
Items end up in the wrong chests constantly, usually getting dumped in a filter chest. Items sometimes get pulled from their storage chest and inserted into a different filter chest. On-off switch still doesn't work. Java 1.16.2.
If items are being pulled from storage chests, then there is an error in your build. If built correctly it is not physically possible for storage chests to be drained since there is no hopper or hopper minecart that ever exists in a position that could drain them.
If you're willing to hop on my Discord server and post some screenshots I can help you debug your build. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to get it to work in Java 1.16.2 unless you're on a Spigot or Bukkit server.
@@metamilo Thanks. Turns out it was merely the fact items were ending up in overflow instead of being deposited into the correct filter chest, perhaps because the minecart leaves the dropper pipe station before it gets emptied. If I can't get that fixed, I'll consider your very generous offer.
Idk what im doing wrong but my minecart launches early and without grabbing all the blocks and doesnt put the blocks in the right place and takes the filter items out😪 playing ok bedrock 1.16
I might have to slow down the top rail even more but i did 2 rails then a powered
I’m not sure what’s wrong with mine but whenever I start it the filter items just kind of get spread around throughout all the chests and the Minecart takes the filter out of some chests. I’m not sure if that means the cart is going too fast or too slow or something. Thx in advance. Btw I’m playing on Java 1.16
It would be hard for the cart to go too slow, but it is possible. It going too fast would lead to your filters not being set and everything going to the overflow. I'd double check that the green part of the circuit is built correctly, it may not be locking the hoppers below the cart properly,
Thx man
Wait I just realized that I do have powered rails after the detector rails so that would be speeding it up, and that prob explains why the shutoff wasn’t working. It was turning the rails off then when the minecart came by the rails turned on. But I bet I did mess up somehow on the green part
is there a way to sort the items that only stack up to 16? it's literally the only thing this design needs, it's so Amazing. but is there was a way to sort the 16 stackables it would be a little bit better
For every item that only goes to 16 max take out 3 of the custom named items that you have places. I.e - eggs, ender pearls, signs. so if you place one of each in the filter chest, then take out 3 of the pieces that you named "filler, filter" or whatever you decided.
How do I sort items that stack to 16
does this work for 1.16.1 on a spigot server?
Will this still work in 1.19.x?
Can you give a world download
The cart just collecting filter items and throwing items in every chest instead of one 😭
i had the same issue and solved it bye putting blocker items in the minecart itself and im on paper (in other words im on minehut)
did you forget the blocker items inside of the minecart?
does anyone know if this still works in 1.18.2?
I am having an issue in 1.18.2 where the lowest sticky pistons do not always pull the observers
It 'should' but I haven't tested it in a while.
@@metamilo just built it in my realm. can confirm it works 100% fine!
The target blocks dont lock hoppers in bedrock
So this doesn’t work in bedrock at all?
I did everything and now all the items just go to the overflow chest
Do ALL the items go to the overflow or just some of them? If it's just some then that's a good sign, it means you're really close to having everything working. All you'd have to do in this case is adjust the delay on the bottom rail to be a little longer.
Has anyone on bedrock gotten it to work?
Is this on java or bedrock?
It works on java and with some tweaking can be made to work on bedrock.
Its not working !!!!
First
I play on bedrock and can testify that I stumbled upon every single thing mentioned here lol. I solved them a bit differently though, like instead of slowing down the minecart I stopped it in place until all the items are all in the correct spot, except I also added more minecarts so there's multiple stops on all the slices.
Yea, I don't have bedrock edition so this project was a big learning experience for me. Many of the solutions in this video come from people like you who leave wonderful comments about what breaks on bedrock and how to fix it. Thanks.
Will this work on 1.16.5?