STI Staccato P - A Truly Worthy Carry 2011!
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*Pounds, not ounces on the trigger. It’s light but not THAT light, lol!
very friendly warning, get rid of that zev tech trigger immediately, have had 2 now that had COMPLETE FAILURE, locked up the gun and it could not fire. I called them after the first one and they said that was normal and they would send me another. I will never trust my life with that crap. The tiny spring that pushes the trigger safety out will weaken and then turn sideways when slack is in it. thus locking up your trigger and not allowing it to fire.
Apex trigger seems to have a trigger that is much better anyway and have fixed this RECALL THAT THEY WILL NOT TAKE CREDIT FOR. Going to get someone killed.
Who has a Zev trigger? I don't.
@@KSGunGuy01 Ya look like you have apex triggers.
I’ve got the C2 Duo and I love it
I'm sold. I'm not even gonna try to resist anymore. STI is the answer. I'm getting one.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
I would love to be able to find a gunrange to try it before buying one
I bought a Staccato C a couple months ago...wow, just wow.
Going back to a 1911 trigger after shooting all others is always a joy. I think you need to commend your watchers for not jumping all over the trigger pull weight error. Very mature for the internet
I just caught that and fixed it in the comments. I’m always bummed when something slips through editing but it is what it is. Glad you said something! Thank you and cheers nomikes!
@@KSGunGuy01 I was just thrilled being on the internet and being surrounded by adults
It's a rare occasion for sure.
Based on this video, I bought my first STI. It won't be my last. The Staccato P is everything you said it is. Great gun.
That’s awesome! Thank you and cheers!
My brother great video and you handle that breakdown just right .thanks for sharing with us have a great day sir .
this is so long waited for me. Happy to see you picked up this phenomenal pistol
Thank you very much! It’s been a ton of fun to work with. Cheers!
Another great review KS. I am stoked for you getting to handle and fire such fun and diverse firearms. I Really like 1911's so this 2011 gets me wanting some range time with it. Thanks for all you do! Much love y'all!
Thanks Kevin! It is an amazing gun for sure. Too much fun to shoot. Hopefully you’ll get your hands on one soon. Cheers brother!
Gorgeous piece you have there! The tree bark grip is incredible. Great review! I have an STI addiction lol. I’ve got a combat master, carry costa comp, marauder and Omni with a C2 DUO on the way 😆
I’ve been waiting for you to review this gun. I LOVE mine. Good video as always!
It’s an amazing gun for sure and I see why you like it so much MD! Thank you and cheers!
Damn just the sound of you racking the slide on that staccato makes me want one even more, currently selling a few guns I don't shoot much to get a c2 duo
Absolutely great video. Great camera work and explanations. Just subscribed!
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Great review as always . That STI is so awesome looking 👍 .
Thank you Dave! They are a blast to shoot brother. Cheers!
2011’s and cz’s are the only variety of handguns i havnt branched out into yet.
I recommend trying them both out! Thank you and cheers!
Once you buy a CZ you will feel silly for not owning one sooner.
there is only one auto pistol worth owning the cz75, best of the best, ergonomically perfect, the demo d pistol rolls like a water barrel.
get a Shadow 2 Orange and a Staccato P
Great video. I picked up mine about a month ago and love it, but not perfect. For that kind money, full night sights or a night sight/fiber combo would be better, not to mention a third magazine. Aside from those complaints, the only other thing I didn't love was the very uninspired finish. But its a fantastic shooter and I've carried it daily since I got it. I love 1911's, but this is my first 2011.
Been wanting a 2011 for years settled on an sti even though they stopped production on the DVC open guns at least they aren’t on site anymore
Great vid. STI makes an incredible match gun. For practical use, I'd go with the Wilson Combat in the price range - for real life - the G19 Gen5 all day.
Thanks brother! The Wilson is no slouch at all. it will be interesting to get them head to head soon. Cheers!
Real life?
@@juniortoro4751 yes, I shoot uspsa where STI is popular and they aren't defense guns by any means. The mags needs to be spotless and feed lips tuned. I would never think to carry one of these but they are cool as hell. Every stage you will see the guys have to completely break down the mags and clean them just from having touched the dirt.
Justin Opinion I’ll just stick with G19 Gen 5 period. 😎
brian45acp Yeah
A little on the heavy side. I went with the C2; more than six ounces lighter.
Maybe a little late to the party, but I was shown a Staccato P at a local gun shop. Then started doing some research here on CZcams. Went back and pulled the trigger (pun intended). Your reviews are incredibly helpful. Thank you
They are gorgeous
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
Great video! It sure looks like the machining / surface finish on that pistol is a work of art. 👌
Thank you! It definitely is a work of art... and fun to shoot. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 > If I may ask, how is the slide-to-frame fit on that pistol? (The reason I ask is my experience with 1911's has not been very good...)
It's very good. Tight, but workable.
@@KSGunGuy01 > I have 3 CZ 75's thus far, still doing my homework on the STi's. Thanks for the videos!
Anytime!
Great video all three firearms are great my personal favourites
Thank you very much! They are great indeed. Cheers!
Awesome 2011! Gr8 vid. 🔫
Thank you very much Chicano! Cheers brother!
Excellent review KS... while I do hope to add a P to the collection someday, I will just have to make do with my lousy Staccato-C for the time being!
Haha! No shame in the Staccato C Jasper. It’s a great shooter as well, though Honest made it look a whole lot better. Thank you and cheers brother!
I own both and like the C more.
definitely like the grips
They are awesome indeed! Thank you and cheers!
I like how you did that A+
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Wow KS thats awesome!
Thank you very much Youngguns! It’s been a lot of fun to work with. Cheers brother!
@KSGunGuy Minor changes for the Staccato P in 2020
1.)Barrel length is 4.4 inches
2.)Easier take down the guide rod assembly has a built in spring loaded push lever. You push the guide rod forward, press in the lever which locks the compressed guide rod. You then pull the compressed guide rod out.
3.) The sleeve removes with the compressed guide rod assembly.
4.)Barrel is coated differently, it is not black but brushed chrome color.
5.) Comes with 1 17 round and 2 20 round magazines new black finish on magazines some shipped w/chrome depending on stock as it depletes on chrome.
6.) Stippling on grip has changed.
Not sure what the finish colors are called but you get the idea......
Great to know C! Thanks for the info brother.
This looks like a 2019 Staccato P. The 2020 Staccato P has a 4.4" barrel that is tapered in the front and doesn't have a full length picatinny rail. This looks identical to the new Staccato Heritage, less the DUO and X-serrations. The 4.15' P is very reliable and well balanced handgun. Great video!!!@@KSGunGuy01
Good to see the take down, never liked using tools to field strip.
I totally agree about the tools. Makes life complicated. Thank you and cheers!
Nice review. Nice showing the take down without a tool. I like the P better than the C. "Tactical Flinch" nice!
Thanks Keanon! Yeah, the flinch cracked me up and had to work it in there. I have zero shame, lol. Agreed on the P vs C. Cheers brother!
A little bit late to the party on this video, but to respond to your question about the mag release since I didn't see it answered. I sent STI and email and asked about the ability to swap it over since I mainly shoot southpaw and it would be kind of important to have. They said there is a 3rd party addon you can get to swap it over to the other side.
That tree bark grip looks incredible, and its interesting from the C to the P 8 rounds to 21 !
t feels amazing in the hand for sure! Thank you and cheers!
Yeah 8 to 21, the DVC C is the same size as the StacC and has a double stack mag. I would have bought the StacC the first time I held it had it had a double stack mag.
@@tylerfecho4454 No doubt , I mean they say the only 2 downsides are the weight and capacity but the weight is right there with many EDC's maybe a few ounces more, but really the mag cap that's it and if they had a 2 plus mag bump that would be cool, imo.
@@davidtrueslayor7474 sadly I can't justify paying $3,000 for the DVC C just for a double stack magazine. I want to lol, but I cant.
I almost got the staccato p, lgs had one. Went with a p229 legion sao and a 92x centurion. Kinda wish I got the sti.
Both look great, but the X9 is beautiful. My dream pistol is a tie between the Atlas Hyperion and Lady Hawk by Korth. If only they weren't, but dreams.
I agree about the X9. It’s a work of art. That dream gun sounds awesome! Thank you and cheers!
The local range/gun shop has two competitive shooters, both shooting on Team Ruger: James McGinty and Dave Olhasso. James’ father owns the shop, and they’re both 1911 shooters. James ran STI’s until he was picked up by Ruger, and he and his father have a massive collection upscale 1911 pistols. Dave Olhasso does an extraordinary job with action tuning, and I’m lucky to know both of these guys. They run 1911’s with insanely light triggers, and I’m only interested in carry pistols. My Colts, Rugers, and S&W 1911’s all have 3.5-4.0 lb triggers, and I’m fine with that. I’ve been given the opportunity to shoot the McGinty’s Nighthawks, Cabots, Wilson Combats, etc, and I’m pretty happy with my $1,200 and under 1911’s. The Staccato’s polymer grip would mess with my OCD too much, and I’d have blend the polymer and steel with a file...lol! Thanks for sharing!
You’ve got some great friends with an impressive collection! I’d love to shoot some of those as well. As for the grip, it feels awesome and although looks odd, the eyes tend to get used to it. Thank you and cheers Frank!
STI makes some very nice pistols, and that Wilson Combat is no slouch. I'm in the middle of actually selling off some guns, something I haven't done in a while. Stayed tuned for what I've been up to. :P You really capture the quality in great detail with your camera. I prefer the STI over that Wilson Combat, but that's just my opinion. Have a great weekend brother!
I can’t wait to see what you’re doing Fu! It’s tough to say goodbye to them but sometimes it’s what we have to do. Thank you and cheers as always!
@@KSGunGuy01To me it's a win/win situation. I'm getting a dream gun and thinning out some guns I have multiples of. I don't like to sell, but in this instance I didn't hesitate. Have a great week brother!
Right on!
I’ve never shot a 1911 chambered 9mm. Bet it shoots very nicely, although I am a died in the wool 45 APC guy when it comes to my 1911’s. Looks nice, love the grip.
I totally understand about 45, but this thing is truly an experience to shoot. I recommend giving one a try if you get the chance. Thank you and cheers DJ!
Ah yes, who doesn't like half the ammo and more recoil with zero ballistic advantage in muzzle energy from the projectile?
I love my STI Omni!! But the only thing I would change would be the front sight.
Right on! Thank you and cheers Russ!
I love the full length dust cover. I can't seem to find this model anymore.
Very Cool STI Staccato P. I would take that Wilson Combat all the way !!!!!! Great review KS
They will be head to head soon! That Wilson is pretty sweet for sure. Thank you and cheers Jerry!
Jerry Johnson II I’ve had my X9 for a year an half with 4000 rounds thru it and it’s performed flawlessly ! Worth ever penny in my opinion
I would love to shot one.
Shortyberg14 limp wrist it.
The beaver tail won’t print it’s the back corner of the grip. So for me a bobtail commander is very discreet iwb carry choice even here in the south. I wear button lightweight sport shirts with a galco summer series holster, printing is never an issue. Thanks for the video carry on.
I agree about the bobtail. It's a great option and very comfortable to shoot. Thank you and cheers!
I love the 2011 STI’s and want to get one. I’m actually good with the cost however, as a lefty if I spend that kind of money I want an ambidextrous mag release. I’ve actually been doing research to see who can add a ambidextrous mag release before I buy it. I’m leaning toward the DVC-P. Mitchell Custom Guns & Bulletsworks can install mag release for lefties.
Great to hear there are left hand options for these. The DVC-P looks amazing! Thank you and cheers Brian!
same. I can't justify replacing my PDP with the staccato P for any kind of competitive use until some solutions for lefties come out for it.
@@Hawtload the mag release on a p can be swapped to the left side
The mag release on the p can be swapped to the left side
Hope you feel better man! Cool pistol
Thanks brother! Getting there. Cheers as always!
Very nice review
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Sweet.
Thank you InSight! Cheers brother!
Oh man I'm so Jelly!! Me want now lol. Sweet review but...... you didn't show the case that came with it. Is it the nylon type with the velcro secure straps? Idk if all STI's come like that? Thanks again for bringing this fine artwork to our attention!
Good call on the case. It’s the gray case with two compartments and zips close. Actually pretty nice and the gun is a beast! Thank you and cheers BloodySoup!
Another great review!! I like to see other You Tube personality's watching each others channels!!
Thank you James! We do try and support each other as much as possible. Cheers brother!
Are you coming back someday??? Hope all is well with you and your family! Really miss your reviews!
Great vid. How come your P has a flush rail with the slide??? it looks much better than the current P!!!
It's easy to take apart when it's a 9mm. But with a 45 it's a different story. The heavier spring rate I think 18 1/2 pounds requires the use of the tool. Or just get a tooless guide rod from Dawson..
Beautiful gun and the features are there for the price.. what bothers me is a polymer trigger. Is there some advantage I don't know about?
No advantage that I can think of other than weight savings. To be honest, it doesn’t really bother me. Thank you and cheers!
As always, great review. Love your stuff. You are a natural. Hard to beat a Wilson Combat in a 1911. If you had to chose, would you pick this over the Wilson??
Thank you very much Fallon! Good question on choosing and that vid will be out very soon. Cheers!
KSGunGuy I knew u were gonna make me wait for the video but I had to try 😂😂😂. Always keeping me in suspense!
I like to keep everyone guessing, lol
KSGunGuy Oh we know!! As we sit in corners gnawing at our fingernails LOL!!
Great review. looked to me like the P had less recoil/muzzle flip than the edc x9 did. Any truth to that?
Yes, the P does have less recoil. It is about 7 ounces heavier which makes a big difference. Thank you and cheers!
I shot both. Recoil can be easily controlled on both. Grip at EDC X9 is AMAZING... I' rather spend $2,800 for EDC X9 than $1,999 for STACCATO P :-).... however my budget gave me only option to use Rock Island TAC Ultra FS HC (shots almost like Staccato P).
Thats a freaking nice gun!
They really are amazing Bert! Thank you and cheers!
Solid review.
Half work of art and half well made tool
Wheeled & Well Armed
Thank you Wheeled! I do agree with you on the STI. Cheers brother!
Lol!! “ it’s fairly dirty, I just cleaned it”
I own the Staccato P and absolutely love it. But..... No gun is perfect. The mag release is gritty and small and for such a hefty gun it definitely kicks a little, unlike the edge. And yeah, it's not easy putting back together after break down.
I totally agree about the disassembly! Thank you and cheers!
How much smoother is your edge?
How does this and the RIA tac tac ultra fs hc 2011 stack up?
I was excited until I heard about the MSRP. Looks like a great shooter, though!
Pricey but awesome. Thank you and cheers!
It's no diff than driving a VW and seeing a 911 carrera. You either got the money for it or you don't.
Great video! Do the John Wick special next...
If I could do one of those, it would be awesome! Not sure the budget can handle it though, lol. Thank you and cheers Mohawk!
KSGunGuy I completely understand.
Beauty of a handgun! Made right here in the great state of Texas! I'd love to do a factory tour there sometime. Anothet awesome review brother! And I'm all caught up! 👊💥
A factory tour would be so much fun! I’d be down for that for sure. Thank you and cheers as always Texican!
I paid $1800 for mine with shipping! And it was worth every penny. Definitely my favorite hammer fired pistol and dead nuts accurate. Hey kS any idea diameter size of the fiber optic? I prefer green and want to switch mine out as well. Thanks
Congrats on yours and great price! I'm not 100% sure on the fiber. If I find out, I'll let you know. Thank you and cheers!
Here its twice the price 😪
@@chrmain7137 where is here?
@@KSGunGuy01 It's 1.5mm. The guys over at STI were kind enough to send one my way!
Switzerland
Def competition
Agreed! Cheers again brother!
Nice pistol, I'll carry something a little less expensive though. Carry guns tend to get beat up a bit. Great range pistol or BBQ OWB pistol....
I’m with you on that C! Amazing gun but I prefer something a bit more simple for carry. Thank you and cheers!
BBQ guns are the nickel plated sissy ones
Great video, a little out of my price range though! I did notice that every time you dropped the hammer down into the uncocked position, you did not have to press the grip safety in. It is only 6 ounces lighter than my SA LB Operator .45 ACP. Thats not that much lighter IMO.
6 ounces is a ton when talking about a ccw; and twice the capacity.
As a dude who routinely carries a full size 92fs or 1911 I find the comments saying this is too big for carry a bit questionable to say the least 😅
Thats a trigger man , that Wilson combat is wicked too, but $3k !!
I completely agree David! Thank you and cheers!
3000 is the reflection of the gullible public, BS only goes so far and that is 750 dollars and more.
@@tarassmith2325 I buy that well hold on, lol, let me rephrase that, gun companies know that if they keep making them we will keep buying them and I wouldn't doubt there best customers are the ones who have multiple guns already, I heard one gunner say if I buy the full size I have to have the compact one also. I do that but with tooth paste - I get the big full sized tube but then I grab the travel size, feel me ? lol take care
Is the gun idpa esp approved ?
That’s a crazy cool lookin gun! It’s beggin to be shot - a lot!
It definitely needs more rounds through it Sonny! A great excuse to get back to the range. Thank you and cheers!
How does it compare to the Shadow 2?
Why did they stop making the tree Bark grip texture?
whoa whoa WHOA. When did STI move to a more standard guide rod design?!?! Now we just need them to update the barrel to a modern lugless and linkless design. Boggles my mind why they still manufacture 1911s and 2011s with lugs and links.
I wish it was full metal at this price point. I just don't understand why they went with the polymer grip and trigger guard.
Can you leave a link to the page where you buy this gun
You still have this particular gun?
I have to subscribe because you have the same initials as I do.
Glock looks like a kit home made.
Fantastic pistol, no way in hell would I carry it, not for that price tag. That means for me it would be a range gun and if its a range gun I want the full size slide.
Bought my first STI last summer, it was the p. Now I own four of them.....a dvc 3, a C2, and the all new R. Everything else is for sale. Be warned, it is an addiction.
Where are you located ksgunguy? I'm in Salina.
Have the c and the c2 and idk how people carry the c2 and the p, they're huge. Going back to just the staccato c. Would be nice if some company made a double stack mag that fit in the c because there's more than enough room in that grip for one
@@areyou0k98I'm not an authority on the STI or 1911's but the c2 is the double stack, yes? But you don't like it but want the c in a double stack? If I understand it right, the polymer / fiber frame is a large piece of the recoil absorption.... If they thinned down the material for a double stack in the original C, you'd have a much harder gun to control and would likely see a failure in the form of cracking.
@@timlepage4483 I have both the c and the c2. The c2 grip is big but the actually thickness of the plastic is very small, a few milimeters. The c grip has a bunch of unnecessary plastic on the inside of the grip that if filed down I firmly believe could fit a magazine like the double stack Makarov magazine where it's thin up top but thick down below for double stack. Unfortunately this only an idea and I don't have the tools or resources to try it.
On the fence about getting 1
Which one do you like Staccato C or P
I prefer the P. Thank you and cheers!
Can the beaver tail be modified? Why does it need to be so long?
Not sure why you'd need to mod it. Thank you and cheers!
You can get a tool less guid rod that makes taking it apart way easier
Seems to do OK as is though nice to know there’s an option! Thank you and cheers!
KSGunGuy I use the Dawson Percision tool less Guildrods in all my 2011’s. It makes it less of a hassle to change spring weights for loads.
Right on!
Does it come in 45?
This the 2019 P and I can't find it anywhere.
Really want the P but no way to conceal this bad boy with t-shirts and shorts in Florida. Guess the C or C2 will have to do.
Seems a lil bit big for concealed carry. Maybe winter carry only?
I’ve seen a few folks do it in light clothes but agree that winter carry would make more sense. Thank you and cheers!
I want a 2011, but I just can't justify the price as a poor. Also, they don't come in .357 Sig with 15rd mags.
MexicanBagpiper96 if your poor, 357 sig isn’t for you
The beaver tail is an obstacle for carry. Other than that this weapon is awesome.
Fair point! Thank you and cheers!
I don't think I'd use the term obstacle, especially since that part can make or break a shot/shooter.....
@@willroland9811 however, you want to call that beaver tail lol
This gun may be a bit too large and heavy for concealed carry. Not saying it's bad, but I still haven't found anything better than a Glock for this role.
Not a bad point. Thank you and cheers!
even the C is bigger than a 365XL and carries half the rounds.
Compared staccato to Glock?
Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS for the win!
Haha! Not sure about the win, but a great option none the less. Thank you and cheers Trae!
the problem i have with these top shelf carry guns is that if you have to use them wont the police conficate them? ive heard a lot about dudes never getting their guns back
That can definitely be true! Thank you and cheers!
Having been involved in a active duty shooting or two, I can attest for a fact that you do get your weapon back once you have been cleared by a grand jury (In Ohio) of any wrongdoing
@@troystevens9506 i believe you, but unfortuantly not all states are the same.
@@plank3000 I think some of the problem comes from the gun owners not following up on their cases. Anytime the police take an item from you they are required to give you a impound/inventory receipt. If that item is lost while in their possession, they have to replace it. People just need to stay current with their cases and claim their property as soon as the case concludes. And yes, the property rooms can and will lose items from time to time.
Troy Stevens
Misplace, or lose things.....yeah. Three things that have a propensity for getting lost from Evidence are Guns, Money, and Drugs.
Theft has always been an issue with property in evidence. But 99% of departments will keep it quiet, if they find out stuff is missing. A popular way to make guns disappear legitimately is to get destruction orders from the court. But they don’t actually get destroyed. Because nobody was watching the watchers. I’ve heard the stories from other officers. That’s how I know.
Tell me, what is the length of the barrel of this gun?
he said it 4.16". slightly shorter than a normal commander
@@samdone2900 Thank you very much for your answer!!! ✌️✌️✌️
Thanks Sam!
Thank you for the question! Cheers!
Is trigger made of polymer?
Yes it is. Thank you and cheers!
If I’m gonna cary a 1911 it’s going to be in .45ACP!
You're missing out. Thank you and cheers!
KSGunGuy My 9mm is an HK P7M8.
Take if from me carrying a .45 can be a pain. Dont get me wrong if I'm carrying a sidearm while hunting hogs .45 all day ( or night ) but 9mm or 9mmm just makes more sense.
.45 in a single stack 1911
9mm in a double stack 2011
All day every day.
You should try the SIG 226 legion. That’s what I carry and love that gun.
I've had one. They are awesome guns for sure! Thank you and cheers!
26 rounds for the mags
How does this stand up against the tso and the 229 legion?
Very well. Thank you and cheers!
Debating on getting this or the TSO...
The only item a left handed shooter needs is an ambisafety. Right handed shooters need the mag release placed on the right side so they no longer need to break their grip to reload.
Actually, right handed shooters use mag releases on the left side. Thank you and cheers!
I know that. Using the trigger finger works just fine. I see many right handed shooters, especially ladies, who cannot easily operate the magazine release. They end up either rotating the gun or rotating their hand to reach it. Place it on the right side to run with the trigger finger and the problems go away. Some shooters will save a bit of time on their reloads if they are going against the clock. If they can reach it with their thumb, then either side is fine.
I want one, where do I get it???
A gun store? Thank you and cheers!
Dawson Precision
Home Depot