What does Tesla’s sale decline reveal about the global electric car revolution? | BBC Newsnight
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- Tesla’s sales have dipped so far this year, but prices for electric cars are coming down as more come on to the second-hand electric vehicle market.
Newsnight’s Ben Chu has been crunching the numbers on what’s happening in the EV market, looking at what effect politics has had and how fast different countries are moving towards using electric cars.
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They’re too expensive for private buyers as a new car and nobody wants one second hand hence why the used market for EVs is not particularly strong
unreliable and not green friendly.
plus the older batteries will blow up and injure you or your family
@@KuatoLives99 Stop with the insane lies. Modern EV car batteries can not concussively explode. A Flaming fire is nothing like an explosion. Richard Hammond crawled away injured from a flaming EV. Not even Usain Bolt can out run a Petrol Fireball.
You are leaving out virtue signaling. Tesla's score very high for virtue signaling by people that know know nothing about energy.
I love how the BBC is having a meltdown over this
not just network charging, the electricity is getting expensive also
Norway is also a very small country. I live in Canada and occasionally need to drive a 1,000 km or more. A hybrid may do, but a totally electric car won’t.
Norway leads the way in EV, but it made its wealth on North Sea oil.
EVs make sense in Norway because they have clean electric power -- hydroelectric. Unfortunately the rest of us can't acquire that. The rest of the world runs their EVs mostly on coal and oil. How green is that?
Norway IS NOT small. About 2500 km from North to South, mountainous and not many people. But registration taxes, exclusive car pool lanes and extensive infrastructure mean running an electric car is much cheaper than running a petrol or diesel car.
"Norway is a small country" do you just blow random lies out of your ass? Norway is about the size of the entire east coast
The cost of the battery when it fails is obscene, yet still batteries aren’t serviceable…
Today’s batteries will outlast the cars they’re attached to, also most come with warranties well in excess of their ICE counterparts.
@Steven-vo4ee
The longest warranty I heard of was for 10 yrs. I would like to read the fine wording. Also, what will they do with the old batteries on these EVs?
@@fkb247 They can be infinitely recycled, doing so is far, far cheaper and easier than mining for raw materials. Such battery recycling firms already exist, using 100% renewable electricity and closed loop water systems.
@@fkb247 right, meaning the car becomes worthless as the warranty expiration approaches. Fine print- warranty gets you a "refurbished" (used) battery, not a new one...
@@Steven-vo4ee
Thanks for the information. Can you name one refurbishment plant?
It’s because NO ONE wants to wait 40+ minutes at a supercharger waiting for their car to fully charge every damn time when you can wait a literally minute to fill up a gas tank in a gas run vehicle
EVs are charged overnight at home, DC rapid charging should only be used when there's no other option, for example on very long journeys, in which case a stop for food and the bathroom is more than sufficient to rapid charge.
@@Steven-vo4ee bro not everyone have the same drive patterns or habits. The entire point is I shouldn’t have to rely on charging at home. If im out and about I should be able to charge at Supercharging stations and wait 20 minutes max. Some places there’s a line of Teslas waiting at the supercharging stations. However, at a gas station anywhere in America I can fill up within a minute maybe 2 mins max. Teslas are not practical right now in a fast paced place such as the United States.
@@J24Richie25 Good grief, more of this "Bro" business... It's already possible to charge from 20-80% at a Supercharger within 20 mins, which is more than enough additional charge for almost every circumstance.
@@Steven-vo4ee what does the owner manual say about charging within 60 feet of a building?
How to tank a bot in one easy step.
That’s an idiot’s view of the technology. Most EV owners are charging overnight and rarely need to top up their charge.
Most people are familiar with the limitations at this point, but what's really killing the EV is depreciation.
Most were bought as corporate fleet vehicles, for subsidized tax write offs, carbon credits, ESG scores etc- not any particular love of EVs themselves.
But none of these apply to the used market, so whatever value is artificially gained by incentives, is what you ultimately lose when you sell the car.
This just didn't show up for a couple of years because lockdown supply issues were artificially propping up the used market also.
it might say something about how people feel about Elon Musk…
I wouldn't buy a Tesla simply because I can't stand the man and wouldn't give him a penny. Same with Bozzo too - I won't use Amazon
@@mrb.5610Why can’t you stand him?
@@pgw1977His alt-right pronouncements are certainly off-putting to his primary consumer base.
Exactly, how I feel about Musk and Bezos - not all personalities can handle enormous wealth...
A girl named Simone did a great job by rebuilding her Tesla.
I TURNED MY TESLA INTO A PICKUP TRUCK
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They could get a lot of sympathy by e.g. establishing research centers for cancer or similar.
@@Steven-vo4ee Alt-Right, lol... the 'progressive' Left really do live in 🤡🌎
Pricey and they won't do shit for climate.
"Cars on the road account for 12% of all emissions"
Then go 100% electric everywhere and it'll be like "Cars on the road account for 0% of all emissions, but battery production and waste account for 30% of all emissions"
Poor analysis
Between the financial cost and the cost to human lives, I don't see Electric Vehicles as a global revolution and I doubt highly that African children see it that way either.
It's because EM is a tool.
Bingo
No it’s because they are junk.
Elon is ace - upsets all the right people 👍
IF Elon was smart he'd be refitting his Tesla assembly lines right about now to be installing internal combustion engines.
Give over. The CZcams comments are a joke compared to the debate on X/twitter. That is because he allows much more freedom to say what you want.
Is it because they're too expensive?
The Tesla S, 3, X and Y models are in the same price range as their direct competitors, so not too expensive when oranges are compared with oranges rather than apples.
tesla is overpriced, BYD with their 300 mile range EV car for $15K will take over the global auto industry.
And objectively bad quality.
@@skycloud4802Perhaps the ones produced in the US, however Teslas produced in Shanghai are not.
@@Steven-vo4ee 50k for cheapest model or 26k for a toyo. Me thinks this bot can’t do math
The cold winter in parts of North America caused a lot of problems with the batteries. In Canada you see charging stations halfway to anywhere in the middle of nowhere. Often out of cellphone range.
Here in Canada, almost everyone I know that bought EVs (6 people) says they mostly regret it. There aren't enough charging stations for them to freely travel where they want to like they could with gasoline cars and has generally caused them a lot of frustration with malfunctioning chargers, long waits etc. Most say they wished they waited 5+ years with the hopes the infrastructure got decent enough to support reliable driving here.
not only that but republican states like indiana are refusing to install charging stations.
Bio fuels and hydrogen is the way to go not LI battery based EV
@@AdamBrzozowski-df3gz false ccp bot.
Do they have warning signs as to which charging application to have installed before leaving the area? Could also the car firmware need to be up to date to link to the current version of the charger app running? You can imagine the posts of 'I went out in to the wilderness with version 1.003.67 and the charger I found needed 1.003.79.4, did I feel silly'. Possibly not but who really knows as the complexity of keeping a car up and running spirals upwards in this new all electric world. Bountiful nature providing the wind and sun we hope of course at the time we need it or it all becomes academic anyhow.
Tesla, with its wacko Elan Musk, has competition now. The industry is doing fine!
Wacko ? You looked in the mirror 😂😂😂 he’s rich and your a lefty cry baby 😂😂 loser
serius?
Ask Fisker if they feel the same.
And your evidence for the industry doing fine is? It's quite easy to put your fingers on reams of info to say it isn't, so I'd be interested to see what data you have. Or, are you simply a clown who lets their fee-fees get hurt by Elon Musk and can't act objectively?
@@Redmist.65 The current Fisker is merely the latest incarnation of Fisker to over promise and not deliver, it's in the same camp as Arrival and Nikola.
Battery in larger applications…. is a poor tech
seems like this belief has been disproven.
It always seemed like a bit of a con. Are they really green? Are they safe? Why do they explode with such alarming frequency, especially the Chinese ones? ...lots of other questions hanging over the whole transition project.
People don't have 100k for an albeit awesome, toy.
Market says different...
Ev now cost same as petrol cars.
@@igorigor1496 false. 45k vs 26k.
@@igorigor1496liar!
This hits the nail on the head, Norway is way ahead of us because their government sees it as a way forward and support it, it is not going as well in the Uk because our government looks at everything as a "cash cow" opportunity and does not properly support the technology. There are real problems with installing chargers and nobody will buy a vehicle at vast cost that they will not be able to use properly.
Total rubbish. The reason EVs have been so successful in Norway is because they have plentiful cheap, clean hydro electricity. The rest of the world does not.
Norway in total has half the population of the average world city. Rolling this out to such small numbers of people is really of peripheral relevance. So any idea that rolling out this to 5 million people in an energy rich country is the same as to the 70 million and adding 1 million extra a year in a run down nation like the UK is just pointless. We are energy rich sitting on plenty of coal but that is stuck in the ground buried under the relentless dogma. Our current infrastructure is falling apart already with lack of resources so the hope of anything new being built pure fantasy.
Energy comes from solar and wind, but both are too weak to be effective.
Electricity comes from fossil fuels . Look it up
a Single Wind Turbine can produce up to 840,000 KWH per month which is enough to power 900 homes and nearly all of the Energy is used (around 90%) Coal and Gas has most it's Energy wasted through heat and very little is used to create Electricity (only 10-40%)
@@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307 900 homes? Cool California alone is 40 million people. Do you get the land mass you need to power that short bus?
If tesla has down ,the rest is worse ,why dont say that
They use too many AA batteries
They use about 5000 rechargeable AA batteries 🔋
@@zitzong So even a 0.02% failure in the battery production run could mean trouble. What devices are produced in any quantity to these tolerances? Probably why the cars are so darn expensive. They seem not to have devised a battery for these cars and have just crammed what they already have in the spares bin of small scale devices interlinked in series up to killing voltages not envisioned for their original design purpose in to one big box. I just would not like to sit on top of one of these at high speed whatever the reassuring spin from the companies and the government. Luckily few can afford these things so no real decision is needed and it is all just a fun spectacle put on by those that can always and so gaily unconcerned and accepting for any delivered fault.
'What do you do for a living?'
'I charge my car'
At the end of the day, an electric car simply can't do what my current petrol one will. Yes, I'd like a cleaner alternative - but a Tesla certainly isn't it.
What your petrol doing so tesla can't???
@@igorigor1496 Add 550 miles to its range in 3 minutes.
@@igorigor1496 Not turning into a write off from a simple scratch.
Sad to say you left out the behaviour of the chief executive of the company from your research
His behaviour has nothing to do with sales, as its only woke liberals who are mad at Elon and they cant afford new cars 🤷♂
What? Standing up for free speech; refusing to be controlled by advertisers; leading the way in space exploration; reducing the world's CO2 emissions by improving electric cars; being an inspirational role model in engineering rather than being a typical corrupt banker. The list goes on. What have you done with your life?
How about Tesla share holders buy 10 Tesla each they'll be Supporting Themselves instead of The Government 😭
California Used to have the Electric Chair 💺 But Now Governor Newsom Can Sentence you to Tesla Electric Chair 💺 ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
I like the loud noises that my 6.4 liter gas powered engine makes, plus it's a manual 6 speed transmission. I have zero interest in driving around a soulless electric appliance, that will lose half it's value a week after purchase.
Fully electric cars are too expensive, too inconvenient to use and there is no second hand market. They are a fad like 3D televisions and I doubt anyone will consider buying one in 10 years.
I like how they showed growth of EV sales by including Hybrids in there.
“ … in the US and the United States … “ 🤔 We’re all one country, no need to divide us. We tried that once - it didn’t work.
2:05
He meant United Kingdom
ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS
Yeah like the exhaust coming out your tailpipe and gas and car maintenance money flying out of your wallet.
High Inflation and high EV Prices + lots of Development in the EV sector. So why buy now and not wait a few years. Maybe income is better than, cars got rid of bugs and batterys are improved.
EVs can serve small markets with transportation in and around town. If planning to take a long distance trip, forget using an EV. Where are these "national networks" of charging stations, the distance ranges on all EVs is extremely limited and they are NOT worth their purchase price along with being very uncomfortable if going more than a trip to a local mall.
No problem here in the Nordics. I have an EV. Just did a roadtrip of over 500 km.
@@starvictory7079That 500 kms. distance is fine for a small country. Brasil, Canada, the U.S; etc. are NOT equipped with sufficient charging stations to enable EVs to be a dependable transport.
@@starvictory7079 Norway is small country
@@starvictory7079 I put more miles on a motorcycle daily. Hahahahahah dude thinks a 300 mile trip is amazing.
how is most of our electricity produced? by burning fuel lol? 🤣
Electric vehicles are not significantly energy efficient unless paired with the surplus electricity generated at night by hydropower, nuclear power, and similar sources.
100’s of thousands of engineers are working on batteries.
Once we figure that out sky’s the limit.
I picture batteries like USB sticks you carry around. Charge them in like an hour, cost is cheap and they are a battery for EVERYTHING.
Cars are not even sold with a battery.
It can happen.
ICE cars are about 25-35% thermodynamically efficient. EVs are over 90% energy efficient. Facts. Even EVs powered by 100% fossil fuels are several times more efficient and less polluting that the "greenest" ICE cars.
@@guybeingaguy once we figure out god is real the sky is the limit. That’s your angle kid.
@@Cryaboutmyhandle battery prices are less than half the cost in 2012 when Model S was launched. This will continue. It not just jam tomorrow. It's Jam today as well.
@@markthomas7279 they cost 20k short bus. Let us know when you have the basics down then post.
Electric cars are a failure!
Needs to ve self charging cars not plug-in electric cars!
Time is more valuable than anything, if you have to atress about where and how long it charges it then you add another stress on your head.
Mark my words!
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Hybrids are the sweet spot. No range issues, great mpg and somewhere in the middle when it comes to pricing. Also Toyota.... so reliable !!!
Hybrids are the way to go Right now or PHEVs as they give the best of Both worlds. Right now it should be transitioning to PHEVS or hybrids until the Battery technology gets better and the Prices get better.
@@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307Do you not think that having two power systems in one car might be expensive to build and service???
@@markthomas7279 Your answer lies with the Prius that has been in production since 1997. and besides it's well known Electric systems requires very little maintenance. the only thing you got worry about is the Typical maintenance that comes with an ICE but because it's not always running on a Gas engine you don't need to do the Basics as often your owners manual will tell you how often you need to do it.
How about the environmental damage caused by making the batteries 🧐🤔 I'll stick with my ICE that includes a spare tyre...
How about the environmental damage caused by drilling for oil, refining and burning its single use products, over the course of an ICE vehicles life? Batteries are infinitely recyclable, they are being so already, doing so is far, far cheaper than mining for raw materials. Battery recyclers use 100% renewable electricity and closed loop water systems.
@@Steven-vo4ee < when the bot doesn’t know drilling for metals is worse.
Why would you buy "used" anything that comes with a 20K battery replacement?
Because that's nonsense. The battery lasts longer than an internal combustion engine.
@@Heaney5551
They don’t though do they.
@@Heaney5551that’s quite a claim! There are combustion engines that are over 100 years old still running today.
@@SecwetGwiwer Sure, ones that have had more spent on them than a battery replacement would cost!
@@ydnallah1541 Compared to the typical ICE, yes they do!
i have owned a model 3 since 2019. It hasn't needed any major maintenance. I haven't bought any gas or needed an oil change since.
I will NEVER go back to ICE because EV is the best commuter vehicle.
Principles are all wrong: false assumptions not supported by public behaviour. Chances are the tides have turned
Road Transport 12% (What is car related?)
There’s also another POV that we have far too many cars and getting people out of their cars and walking and cycling will benefit their health and the economy. Replacing 34m ICE vehicles with all electric is not realistic. Not everyone with ICE cars can afford to replace with an EV, along with charger at home. The national grid also needs to be massively upgraded to take on the extra capacity. EVs are heavier than ICE vehicles and the state of roads are already in a terrible state with the potholes. EVs are going to make them even worse without significant investment in repairing them and the inclement weather caused by climate change.
because BEV is heavy. More energy is needed to accelerate a car with a large mass battery.
Not so much. EVs are heavier but electric power train is way more efficient than ICE. So your second sentence is just wrong.
No one really talks about Electricity supplies or the new power stations needed to create that electrical power or the farcical lack of charging locations in all countries... unless you live in a city ! How about the need to mine vast amounts of rare earth materials to create batteries or the pathetic lack of improvement in battery technology - especially in cold areas of the world. Electrical vehicles are a joke at the moment being fed by governmental leaders who really have not looked at this as a global concern, other than repeating the mantra of the danger of the various gas emissions... which most certainly is known problem. How about Helium or Hydrogen as a power source ?
100k and people wonder why sales are slumping? Add high costs of replacing batteries, the environmental damage mining materials for those batteries.....come on why would anyone but none.
They should make electric toothbrushes. I really enjoy mine
This report combines BEV and PHEV sales. This is misleading. BEV sales are dropping rapidly while PHEV sales are skyrocketing. The greenest car of 2024 is the Toyota Prius Prime and rest of the top 12 are PHEVs, hybrids, and subcompact BEVs. Consumer Reports has reported that hybrids are the most reliable vehicles while BEVs are relatively unreliable. Thus, if you love the environment and want something economical and reliable, you want a Toyota PHEV or similar.
The industry is doing fine! Non Tesla EV sales are slowing. Thats the story line
EV's are no good and not the future.. no way i'de put a penny into any car company let alone and ev company..
OT: Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python by two TV stations --WOR and WLVI!
UK building and maintaining an effective network is something all know will not happen
A person walks along a pavement, as the person is passing a car plugged into a charger, the car catches fire. The fire causes serious burns to the pedestrian. What will that do to the electric car market?
ICE car fires are proportionally more common than EV ones.
New cars, especially Electric at too expensive to buy. Public charging electricity costs are ridiculously priced and suffer from poor infrastructure and take too long to charge. Battery replacement costs are astronomical and have a limited shelf life. Limited range on anything even remotely affordable. Expensive insurance. Cars are environmentally bad to manufacture. Little to no second hand market. There's so many hurdles to overcome. I bought my 2nd hand Ford Galaxy with 7 miles on the clock for £15k 12 years ago, I can't get anything of a similar size with similar range for even triple that cost!!
I have 2 New cars. None are a EV
In decade or so's time, that will not be an option in most of the developed world.
Have you ever had a electric car? Or just hear what negative social media brain washes the weak minded lol just saying because people I know with electric cars love it
I have a electric car and a diesel car for longer trips , I rarely use my diesel car, and the electric car that I bought is saving me a fortune on fuel costs £5 a week to charge on my cheap home tariff £0.09 per klw my hyundai kona ev with 300 mile range second hand that I bought for £19000 , one and a half years old mint condition.
Well done BBC .. a click bait title only to lure people to watch you say this is a blimp in sales and educate the public that the EV momentum is unstoppable. You are a true CZcamsr now.
Lithium prices are also down 90% from their 2022 highs
What we want to say to the BBC channel is whether they can telecast Modi's video again
LOL! In Oahu, Hawaii its either Toyota Tacomas or Teslas on the road!!!
When's the more budget Tesla coming out?
now I know Why it soooooo expensiveee
Why not put an engine in that car and reduce the price and increase the reliability. How about a Honda engine?
It's marketing 101 early adopters and green ideals of some people, the other 60% wont buy electric anytime soon
Could have fooled me. Teslas everywhere I turn where I am.
that we need those next gen batteries to add range and charge faster and at the same time provide some proof of a serious and immediate barrage of charger station installations, or people will start to get negative on evs.
Toyota’s hybrid cars are the final form of automobiles.
Too bad the battery dies if you don't use them regularly. I was going to buy one but a relative has had so many problems....
Hybrids are the worst of all worlds, double the complexity and potential for problems.
@@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153 That's like with Any car the battery dies if you don't use it since there is stuff in the car like your Anti theft system that slowly drains the battery when your car is not in use.
But the car generator is it's sign
Depreciation- we are living in a cost of living crisis. They are to expensive they have no residue value, little or no second hand market. Hopeless network, excruciating repair costs.
Rip off charging costs,
Range fear.
Added to all the above When the replacement battery costs outweigh the cost of the vehicle then you have a huge problem
The US AND the United States? Damn!
good short primer
There is a Lot of Reliance on Tesla and it is a New Car Manufacturer.
Apart from Fumes, The Car Standard was High Pre Tesla.
EV charging points in the UK should be installed and managed by the CEGB, as the state generating companies do in Europe. Their engineers are out and about 24/7 so installing and maintaining would be far more efficient than the many separate companies in UK at present. They could learn from bus and train operators that use battery banks to power them, charged by green or off peak (night time) electricity.
In the UK a fast buck for the favoured few rules absolutely so expecting any centralised plan for the common good is just never going to happen.
Could it be that they shut production to upgrade their cars in US?
I knew it from the beginning
That you’re ignorant and uneducated? yea then I agree.
What it reveals is robbery. No engine no transmission no alternator, no liquids like oil or any fluids. It should less than half the cost. But it’s double the cost of a normal car. That’s robbery!
Liquid cooled batteries, oil in the gear reduction box, brake fluid, washer fluid - they don't have engine oil or fuel though. Electric motors and batteries are insanely expensive though, which is why my 2011 Alfa Giulietta JTDM 140 is cheaper to run by a massive margin, as is just about any well used conventional car. And yes, I could easily afford an EV, I choose not to spaff £500 plus a month on buying a home appliance on steroids.
Uhh it has all that and more. Have you never looked at one? Hahah
Tesla should release a completely stripped down cheaper version of the Tesla model 3. maybe a model 2. for 20000 dollars uvp. Would be way more reachable than 40k
China
But do we not want to talk about the degradation of the batteries themselves, or the fact that they take longer to put out in a fire increasing the amount of water used, or that they just seem to catch fire as well and are ticking time bombs (Okay not all are). Seems to me like this is just a silly little way to try and once again of finding a simple and easy solutions to complex problem, complex problems require complex solutions.
No because that is either hype or just not true at all.
@@tayler2396 go use the net and stop making a fool of yourself. Figure out what thermal runaway is and try again.
@@tayler2396 < this is a ccpbot not even a person.
Degradation is solved.
Electric cars? How about less cars and less roads?!
We don’t really manufacture anything so why do people need to be an hour + removed from their place of residence?
Cause they live in the cookie cutter suburbs?
Well we don’t need so many of those either
BEV is underdeveloped tech and these manufacturer sold to us just to rake profit without any after sales service, so if your bateries pack is bust you must buy brand new one not only the bateries.
Keep your ICE as long as you can until BEV industries can presenting fully developed BEV technology that won't give us range anxiety, blown or burned while park and batery pack 20 years waranty or much more
Maybe it says that Musk doesn't understand logarithms
Anything that means red curtain 0:14. 0:24 can't be real drifter, but it's it you promised possibly would change your mind to electric, but those salaries are for those owning a company and not for those able to VSCode. Owning a car usually does not mean any code at all and parliament does not have to discuss is it Laravel or Symfony, but represent only law, jail and imprisonment and only if you had driving anywhere you wish freedom. There is a comparison how much it cost to own and John Deere and VSCode salaries can't be competitive, but are just a cheaper workforce than harvesting in the autumn.
BYD introduced a Hydrid early this year. So, if EV cars fail, they can just build hybrids.
It's a cul de sac technology. Might be relevant for ,3 or 4 years. What then ??
I sold my two-year-old Tesla at a loss and am driving a hybrid. Two reasons: 1. The charging infrastructure isn't there. 2. Elon Musk: After he bought Twitter, my customers asked my opinions on him. I prefer not to answer these questions.
No network, too expensive, way to expensive to fix (if you slightly crash one its over) and lets be real we won't be recycling the batteries so they're not even that much better for the environment and second hand when the battery is useless they're way too expensive to replace.
It says nothing about the EV industry and everything about Musks effect in Tesla.
Norway has massive oil revenues using which it runs all these fancy pet projects. Please give me a break.
It's crazy to pursue a policy of replacing the conventional car with an EV, because an EV on streets/highways/freeways has to be heavy enough to withstand an accident with a conventional car (or truck!). EV's should be restricted to an EV-only center-city environment so that they can be very light-weight (thus also safer for pedestrians/bicyclists). I urge city governments to create fleets of plastic, self-driving EV-taxi-pods. The pods would get charged at the pod-barn---no need for charging stations all over the city. The streets could be narrowed and the sidewalks widened, great for street-life. The conversion of parking lots/buildings would pay for the pod-fleet. Densification! Most efficient use of precious electricity! I could go on.
This guy just gave you the figures. Transport accounts for 12% of global emissions. So how it, if the percentage is so small, why are we focusing on transport? Surely energy generation, which is about 40% of global emissions, is going to make a bigger difference. There is no point in adopting EV's if the underlying energy production is still coming from fossil fuels. Add to that, what will happen to electricity prices when the power companies have everybody over a barrel? My guess is they will skyrocket.
I'm in Australia, so let's examine what's happened here. As you are probably aware, we get a lot of sunshine, so solar seems like a worthwhile investment. In my home we have a 20 panel solar array, with an inverter, so that unused energy goes back into the grid, supposedly meaning you get a rebate off your bill for the energy your solar panels put into the grid. That rebate, which wasn't very much, has been reduced further, and we are told that our grid is not designed for that purpose, so in the future we may not get a rebate at all.
That's a clue about how power companies will maximize their profit at your expense. And don't expect government regulators to step in, because that won't happen.
Stop your gibberish. Talk about Jevon’s paradox next time.
Hybrid or nothing for me. Good luck to full EV owners. I can actually see the value in my hybrid. Silent in the city, small consumption, smooth driving.
In the last decades we have had a large used car market which catered for people who couldn't afford a
new car however, this model is surely going to change in the future.
The possible outcomes of selling ever more EVs are various and unknown as yet :
If battery technology was to significantly reduce the cost of EV batteries and thus EVs and also "cheaper" new solid state batteries come to market then why would anyone buy a used EV?
Alternatively, why buy a new cheaper EV when you could buy a very cheap used EV and buy a nice new "cheap" battery for it effectively a "new" car but costing much less? Or buy a new EV and then every 10 years just buy a cheap new battery for it. But then surely that isn't going to happen as sales of new EVs would decline year on year as a result and there would be fewer and fewer used vehicles around.
So maybe the price of batteries and EVs will be kept artificially high otherwise no one will make them. In which case EVs would remain a high cost vehicle to buy .
But it also seems likely that new batteries made from more plentiful and cheaper materials will render li-ion batteries obsolete in a very few years leaving many owners with a useless lump of scrap metal no one wants.
I'm sure people will have their own fun theories on what might happen in years to come but It could all get very messy. Amusing to ponder though.
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Tesla is almost certainly the most mature & technically advanced EV... but even that is not good enough & the consumer knows it.
It might be the fact the Tesla was the only electric vehicle 🚗 Until Gm,Ford,Honda and every other car manufacturer went electric⚡️
Hmmm…For once the BBC isn’t spreading FUD, nothing in this piece is wrong but there’s so much they didn’t talk about that it is still misleading.
2017 we signed the climate agreement. 7 years later we have .015% of our fleet electrified. It’s not like cell phones replacing land lines. $300 vs $30,000. This transition will take a hundred years
The Cybertruck is the worst vehicle since the Ford Pinto, just add wings to the Cybertruck and Tesla owners will be able to land on Mars as early as 2021.
Thankfully it was any game
When you drive fairly short distances they are fine. Easy to charge at home, beyond that charging stations are to few and take to long. Also carbon emissions? How about dealing with all those batteries, and don’t say recycling because there is always waste. Can your countries electric grid handle the load? How are you producing that power? Their is all kinds of pollution so stop obsessing about the one.
Unrepairable cars
*It reveals I want an electric sports car- the roadster*
They should have prioritized an affordable car already if they intended to compete against foreign markets that don't care about luxury cars.
Also, if Elon wants to save the planet by converting us over to electric cars he should be focusing on making cars everyone can afford.
I appreciate his intentions but this result shows how he is out of touch with the common people he will need to facilitate his needs.
Cashflow is an issue when you are utilising economies of scale. Giga factories are expensive. You could be right that they might be a year later than ideal. But it's only now that competition is coming from China. Even now, BYD are struggling to sell their cheap cars in Europe. I think Tesla will be fine. The impact of the new model will be immense
Tesla has made the same old mistake! Cars that are too expensive and other car makers that bring in cheaper modles with the same range.
Unbelievable! Let’s connect?