How to Install Vinyl or Laminate Flooring Over Existing Ceramic Tile
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- In this video we show you how to install vinyl flooring over existing ceramic tile in a home entrance and bathroom. For this project, the goal was to reuse the existing trim so that it would match seamlessly with the rest of the house. Laying vinyl or laminate flooring over existing tile is a great way to upgrade a floor space without getting into messy demolition work.
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Tips & Tricks:
- Create "tapping blocks" out of a piece of flooring to use with your mallet so you don't damage the surface or edges of your new floor
- Investing in a "pull bar" can save time and help with tricky sections during installation.
- For installations over existing ceramic tile, make sure your tile is in good condition. Broken, loose or damaged tiles will not make a good foundation for the new floor.
- Leave a small gap between your new flooring and the wall to allow for expansion. This gap should be small enough to be covered by the trim.
- Make sure your work area is as clean as possible before you start laying floor.
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I’m 1:25 in and I can tell these guys are good at their work. Game recognize game.
Thanks for the compliment!
This is the perfect how-to video. It’s easy to follow, clear and precise, and the handsome hosts are a bonus gem!
Thank you!
This is exactly what I plan on doing in my bathroom update. Very well demonstrated and explained. Thank you very much. 👍🏼
Glad you liked it!
How did it go?
@@DIYDudes the other videos i watched fill the grout lines. Why didn't you fill the grout lines first?
@@tinablair6262 ..same question here..
Me too
Thank you so much for this video!!! I didn’t want to remove our existing tiles in our bathroom. This is very detailed so I will follow your suggestions.
Thank you !
Thank you.
This idea just came to me. I did not want the mess of digging up tiles in a lived in house.
Yes it’s less mess and speeds up the renovation process a lot as well. Good luck and thanks for watching!
@@nothingbutthebest3051 should we use backing on the concert flooring?
@@mzwisdom7504 do you mean underlayment under the vinyl planks? If so check the recommendations for your flooring but likely yes, ours had a quality one built in and the manufacturer actually recommended not using an underlayment so we didn’t
@@nothingbutthebest3051Yes that's what my term meant. We will make a inquiry before installing the vinyl planks. Thanks
you make it look and sound so easy, but in reality one really needs to know what they are doing to avoid mistakes that could cause further damage and issues. speaking from wisdom.
A few suggestions....
Use a trim bar, not a pry bar.
Also, pre tape the end of your trim bar and pry side to side and not back and forth . Also, a large putty knife or dry wall float up against the surface of the wall so that when you pry the trim off, you won't damage your dry wall and put holes and dents in it.
Thank you
This is exactly what I needed. The video was well laid out. Gave me the confidence to try this soon. Thank you👍🏾
Glad we could help. Good luck!
I noticed you did not use anything to level the floor (Ardex, etc.). How do you ensure the underlying grout lines won't become indentations in the LVP?
Our flooring was pretty rigid, so it wasn’t an issue… I’ve done it with thinner floors as well and hasn’t been an issue
Loved the before tile 😂
Really! And there wasn't a thing wrong with it. :)
I've installed floor before but there were some great tips in here. Thank you
Glad we could help, thanks!
Your video is exactly what I plan on doing to my newly purchased home! Some other videos recommended using underlayment even if the vinyl planks already have an underlayment attached. The additional layer would be to reduce noise since the pre-attached underlayment is usually garbage (their words, not mine). Would you recommend using additional underlayment or do you find it not needed since you're already laying it on top of tile?
Hey. I think it really comes down to the type of flooring you purchase. The product we used was quite thick and the bottom layer's made from a durable rubber material, so we didn't feel that any additional underlayment was needed. The floor is still looking good and there are no issues with unwanted noises or anything like that.
Thanks for replying! That's good to know.
Also, run the planks the direction of the hall ways.
Not side to side if you can avoid.
It has better chi or flow.
Also. Try and start and end your runs with larger pieces. You can do this by laying out a dry run or simply measuring and subtracting length off the longer beginning or end piece to even it out.
It looks very professional and can make a huge difference.
I’m about to to lay down vinyl flooring and that’s a great tip thank you
I agree
Also, you can save a lot of time and caulking clean up if you pre caulk the back top of the trim. So that when you press it in place, it will caulk your trim .
Test one piece with the bead of caulk and practice till you get the right amount at the right height of bead placement.
I could see that being tough … and might try it though
I'm pretty sure the laminate will rattle without an underlayer of foil to even out the tiles. It's amazing how many "How to's" you can find these days that miss important topics. But good for you, you're making money even without knowing all these things.
Underlayment is built in to the tile and would be against manufacturers recommendations. The flooring has been installed for about two years and functions perfectly. Thanks for watching
I sure wish I could get you two to do my villa floor!! (Sebring Fl.) I will now be searching for a company to HOPEFULLY be as good as you two are!!!
Good luck and thank you !
Good job lads lots going on there with different areas fitting wise looks nice 👍
Thank you they are still holding up great
I finally found a flooring I like after looking at samples from several companies but my son is telling me the 12mm is going to raise the floor too high off of my new tiled floors. I just built my house and hate the tile is the thicker laminate an issue?
No I don’t think so. I would just consider the trim tie ins and the changes in elevation to what ever floors it ties in ton
Man that was satisfying to watch
Thank you!
Crystal clear man, so good, peace! ✌️
Thanks Glad you liked it!
Nice,I am trying to put stick on tile on top of tile in bathroom and laundry area.hope I can do this instead of sand the floor down before installing stick on tile please
Thanks for watching. Check the manufacturer’s recommendations on the tile… it might not stick to certain surfaces good luck!
amazing job guys!! now i need you two to do my bedroom!! lol
Thanks, cheer!
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
Also. One absolute main point that isn't mentioned is that there warranties on these planks and depending on the thickness or "mil" size , and if the planks already have backing then you may or may not need "underlayment ".
"Thin ply" , to smooth the subfloor is a required instruction to obtain the vinyl planks guarantee and or warranty if a problem should arise for any reason.
Ultimately, it's much wiser to buy the good stuff with the backing so that you can avoid the "thin ply" .
Infact, thin ply underlayment will VOID the warranty if the vinyl planks have this backing.
If they don't have the backing, then NO THIN PLY UNDERLAYMENT WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
So read the box carefully before you make you decisions.
Excellent work!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job guys. Weren’t you worried about the grout lines translating into the vinyl plank. Did you use a specific type of product to prevent this. Appreciate your advice. Thanks
I love this flooring! Could you share the brand and where you got it from please ?
Always leave a 1/4" gap between tile and wall/fixture to allow for expansion.
Great work! Looking forward to part 2
Great job Boy’s 👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
Great video! It would have been nice to learn what kind of tile you used!
Thank you… they were a life proof brand purchased at Home Depot
Excellent job. 👍
Thank you!
Nice job. Clear and simple instructions! thanks
Thank you!
Thanks , you make it look simple!
Thanks for watching!
Amazing..great job
Thanks!
Great job good way to Explain thank you gays
Glad you enjoyed it!
*gayz
Profesional work
Thank you!
Great video. How “deep” are the grout lines on the existing floor? I’m looking to do bathroom and have a similar existing floor. Are there any issues w the grout lines?
Hey, glad you liked the video! A typical grout line shouldn't have any impact as long as it’s installed correctly and recessed below or flush with the existing tile. A small gap like a grout line isn’t really enough to have your floor considered not supported. That said, if you did have an unsupported floor you could get some noticeable bending or bouncing in the floor. If you needed to fill a small gap or other hole in the the floor you can use a cement based self levelling floor product. For our project, the grout lines were standard (recessed) and the existing tiles were in good condition. Overall the new floor is performing well without any noticeable bending, bouncing or other issues.
@@DIYDudes Thanks for getting back to me, very much appreciated.
@@richardbolton1461 No problem... good luck with your project!
Hello, I had the same question : ) So no problem with a typical grout line, that's good point. Could it be bad after a time thought (months or years later ?)
@@steverichardson4793 yes it will be a problem after time. I would put self leveling compound over the tile. Otherwise you will most likely void manufacturers warranty on the product and will have issues later
Just found this and I’m so excited so my big living area is all rectangular tile can I still use this method in a bigger area? Will the grout gaps mess with the new floor?
No they haven’t. We used a really stuff flooring. It might be a problem with the really thin flimsy stuff. If your worried you can fill them in with a mortar skim coat
I have a question about starting in the closet, why did you start there instead of in the foyer so that your half planks would be over there instead of a smaller piece where you actually see it all the time? I would think it would be make more sense to have the half pieces by the door just stylistically. Also I may be a little OCD so it might not bother most people. Thanks for the video I have hideous pink tile in my living areas and this makes doing something about it look doable.
The way the tongue and groove of the flooring joins together you need to start in a corner of the room and work your way across and over from there. Good luck!
This is great , a question please what is the floor tile is not even . what can one do . or is it ok to just lay out the planks ?
If the tile is not even you will need to make it even by removing select tiles or evening out with mortar
It depends how bad the change in height is
Great job 👏🏽. Thanks 🙏🏽 for sharing . This is a great idea 💡.
Thank you!
Thanks! Great information!
Thank you!
Ecelent idea 💡🤔👌😄♥
Thank you!
I have a basement that has existing tiles. Some of the tiles are broken, they're not the thick ceramic types. But the cheaper thin home depot ones. I want to retire with the wood style vinyl tiles. Can I lay ot over my existing tiles? Also would I require some sort of glue? I noticed your tiles didn't have glue underneath? Great video btw, 🙏🏽♥️
Thanks for watching. If your concerned about your tiles breaking or continuing to break I would not law vinyl tiles over top as the floor will continue to crumble under the vinyl tiles and cause issues.
Any vinyl or laminate flooring must be installed on a solid/level surface
Beautiful? Great job
Thank you!
Should you fill the grout gaps to level off the floor before installing the floating vinyl tile? Or Should you lay an underlayment? Or maybe it is not necessary for either? haha TIA
Follow the manufacturer recommendations regarding under layment… ours recommended not using it because it was built in… If your plank is pretty rigid I wouldn’t worry about filling in the grout.
Thanks for watching!
Smooth and perfect..
Thanks!
looks gorgeous~
Thanks!
What would you recommend for putting vinyl over uneven tile?
Just a thin set mortar…. Sand the edges when it’s still moist with a wet sponge
Great video and job...👍
Thank you!
Thank you so much for your video, my question what about the tile level,
Tiles need to be level. Thanks for watching!
Looks really good. Next time, break the toilet into two pieces to make it easier on your back :)
Lol thanks
Can you recommend a product going over existing tile for a bathroom at a beach house (high humidity)
Anything that’s advertised as water proof or luxury vinyl plank would be best. Water proof is best any thing advertised as water resistant will still swell at the joints as those floors have a wood material core
Good video 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
Love the look of those tiles..can you post a link here to them? Thank You!
Hey tony sorry but I can’t find them on the website, we got them from Home Depot. Hope that helps
Don’t you have to feather finish the old grout joints to avoid the vinyl flooring telegraphing eventually??
Our floor was very thick and rigid with a quality built in underpad and the depression at the Joints was minor, based on that we didn’t think it was required ..
tbh I’m not sure that telegraphing actually does happen, I’ve only ever heard of it but never seen it.... maybe in a very thin floor like 2-4mm??? Have you ever seen it happen?
Feathering applies to dips and large divets in the floor. Especially on the sub floor or laminate, where there is cracking or uneven surfaces.
You can just use floor tile self leveling mortar or haydyte, which is self leveling concrete used between apartments to dampen sound and strengthen the sub floor.
Again, the region of the build matters a lot when it comes to proper preparations and specific outcomes..
If the ground moves a lot, like in clay, then it would probably save you some heart ache later. .
Haydyte would be the best option because it thins really well and self levels and set up is quick! You can pour and spread with a large squeegee.
Take trim off first .
It will level and spread to the side and fill in on its own so don't force it in the edges or it could possible cup as it dries .
@@nothingbutthebest3051 oo
We are doing this in our bathroom. What do you recommend doing about the tile that meets up next to the tub? Leaving a 1/4 inch will leave a gap and instructions say to use this compressible foam and a silicone sealer over it to waterproof so how would you cover this without looking terrible?
Leave a 1/4” gap install piece of pvc quarter round trim to cover the gap (pvc won’t mold like wood) and silicone the edges to prevent water getting under. If done this before and it looks great
Looks very nice. Just curious as to why no use of adhesive? Thank you!
It’s a floating floor so it’s designed to be able to move (expand and contract slightly with temperatures). Glue would stop it from moving and the joints would separate over time
Is it possible to lay a glue-down version of LVT on old ceramic tiles? After laying if there is damage can that be repairable easily?
Yes as long as the glue has a clean level
Surface to adhere to. Thanks for watching!
@@DIYDudes Thanks, but will it damage old ceramic tiles, when repairing the glued LVT or is it better off using click LVT?
Question, can install wood laminate flooring over a previous grouted floor after lifting the ceramic tile. The grout is flat. Or do you get the grout removed, big job!
If the floor is level and solid you can lay on top of it. … if you e already removed the tile I would go ahead and remove the mortar bed as well
If I was doing this in the kitchen and only going as far as the kick boards should I use adhesive for stop the tiles sliding or separating
No. Don’t glue it down, it’s meant to float. You’ll have to use a small trim board to cover up the gap at the kick plate. Good luck!
@@DIYDudes thanks 👍🏼
No problem!
Please include all the tools and vinly flooring you use in this video. I would like to build my washroom same as yours
Can this be done over existing laminate tile? I'd like to cover and update to a lighter faux wood instead of the dark faux wood that is there now..
Yes definitely could. It is very easy to remove existing laminate though. It’s a bit more work but you might be better off.
I am curious, is this tile you installed “luxury vinyl flooring” with a thickness of 6mm? I am considering using the same method in my small business. I found a beautiful product Lowe’s that I would love to use. I also noticed you didn’t fill in any grout lines in the existing ceramic tile. Is it because of the thickness of the vinyl flooring? Thank you
After a few months, you don't see the lines / joins of the titles through the vinyl?
No that might be the case with very low quality thin floors but any normal flooring should be fine.
It’s been installed for 2 years with out issues
Fantastic video, now when are you coming to my home? 😊
Lol it’s diy, try it! Good luck!
Would there be concern for moisture developing underneath?
No shouldn’t be a problem unless there’s a flood.... the joints on this floor are water tight
so laying over the grout lines wont be a problem for stability? in a small bathroom 6x6 floor is it too difficult to use full size planks to move from therre into the adjacent bedroom?
No issue with stability. And the transition is ok between rooms. With the big planks. Good luck!
Awesome video! I am actually installing the same vinyl tile. I was wondering if I have to cut one side of the line when using the miter saw. I am thinking that if I cut exactly in the middle, the thickness of the saw blade will make the cuts slightly less that exactly half. Thank you!
We just cut it right in the middle, we had 1/8” split between two pieces so 1/16” off of each half. The amount is so minor you can’t even tell, good luck!
1/8” being the width of the saw blade
A question. If the ceramic tile floor is not level , then it needs to be levelled for the LVP. Is Using self levelling concrete to do that ok ? Also is having an underlayment necessary under an LVP ?
definitely a self leveler is your best bet for leveling out the floor....... Regarding the underlayment check with your specific floor manufacturer but likely yes at the very least for sound dampening.... if there was no underlayment or no built in under layment the floor would be very loud to walk on.... good luck!
Looks amazing
Thank you!
Since you put the laminate over the tile did you need longer bolts for the toilet?
We didn’t need to because there was enough length on the existing bolts but yes. You may have to get new bolts and an over sized walk ring for the toilet
Why did you have to remove the rails? Where you installing another type of door?
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The tile that was installed in my house isn't very level, not terribly uneven but enough that if I ran a chair across it it would catch in some places. Will that create issues for the vinyl installation? Also, the tile is large and fairly thick leading into carpeted rooms. If I install vinyl over the tile will it be too high to sit next to the carpet? The vinyl flooring is about 1/4 in thick. Thank you
That's my worry with installing this too. I dread the thought of removing my old tile, but I'm thinking it will be too high once if I install the vinly. They didn't really touch base on this issue in the video. You said you had some uneven spots in yours for this you can use self leveler in those spots before you install.
This guy explains how to transition from higher to lower or lower to higher pretty well. czcams.com/video/_oTUB9EM3a8/video.html
The last segment in the video he explains how to transition from something that really high.
The off the shelf transition pieces usually cover a 1/4 drop pretty easily. I would check the manufacturers recommendations on the transition rail and if it won’t cover you may have to add a thin piece of trim to fill the gap at the bottom of the rail that’s not covered, thanks for watching and we’ll try and include some more details on this in the next video. Thanks!
Is there a video of anyone using adhesive with vinyl peel and stick ? Mine are not sticking... but I don’t know how much adhesive to put on each tile
That's a good question. We haven't gotten into that yet but sounds like a good plan for a future video. Hopefully someone with the right experience will see your comment! Cheers.
use a spray can of carpet adhesive... works every time ))
freakin' Awesome dudes!!!!
Thanks!
Is there a need to put any underlayment between the ceramic tiles and the vinyl? Maybe for humidity?
Question, should you remove existing tiles if they appear raised in places? I am all for laying vinyl plank over my existing tiles, but I don't want a lump from the old tile below.
Hey Trish you definitely need to make sure that the surface is flat/level
You can’t lay on top of an uneven surface
When doing this, can the gap caused by the grout impact the integrity of the new vinyl tiles on top of it? Should a floor leveler be used to bring grout lines up to being flush with the ceramic tile or is this not necessary? Thanks!
Also wondering this... thanks!
Hey guys if you have a rigid core flooring then I wouldn’t worry about it. If you are using the thin 2-4mm flooring than i would consider it if your grout gaps are big.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Did you re use the same trim or get a new one?
We ended up reusing all of the trim… be careful when you remove it
@@DIYDudes On that same note, did you also cut the trim down for the new height? I saw earlier in the video you did mark it but wasn't sure if you just reinstalled. Thanks!
I did have to cut abit off of a few sections where the floor intersected trim from the existing floor… I just used a table saw
I'm trying to do this to my living some tile is crack will I have any issues
I would remove the cracked tiles and refill the gap with self leveling cement? You need to have a solid non moving base
Would not the Grout lines of the old tile floor cause damage to new Vinyl floor?
No, I would just make sure that you use a rigid core flooring of about 1/2 inch thickness and you’ll be fine without filling in the grout lines. We installed this for a year or two ago and it is holding up just fine. Thanks for watching.
I wouldn't reccommend that.
I have known professional tilers and gettingup the old tile with that kind of abrasive adhesive is in the best interest of your project.
No it sure what you mean these tiles just float right over top.
Do I need to do an underlayment? Would the seams from old tiles cause any issues?
They didn’t in our case, a normal depth grout joint is fine as long as you are using a rigid flooring… check your flooring manufacturer recommendations on the under layment
Can someone help answer this: We are installing almost identical plank flooring (8mm thick) in our mud room over existing hard tile. The tile currently buts up evenly with existing hardwood floors at the transition zone into the kitchen. What do I do at the transition zone as the newly installed plank flooring will now be 8mm higher than the existing hardwood floors. Any recommendations? Thanks
Yes you can get a transition to step down the height at the edge…. Just make sure the flooring you are using has available matching transitions.
Didn't know you could install over ceramic tiles. Why do so many break out the old tiles? Floor height, or?
This type of floor can be installed on any sound surface…. Change in height would be a big reason to remove though. Thanks for watching
Nice tutorial. I've been considering getting a multi angle guide tool. I'm sold now. My question is: Did you have to cut the locking bead off of the piece you slid into place when wrapping the door jamb? I noticed that you slid it into place with no lifting to lock the joint. Also, what do you use for straight cuts? Thanks.
No don’t cut the locking joint. Once it’s locked in on the long side you can slide it if your careful and don’t tap it to hard.
For the straight cuts I just used the settings on the mitre saw.
The angle tool is great though and cheap. I use it all
The time for those weird cuts. Good luck!
How can I make the cover waterproof? I have thick tiles with deep grout lines in my kitchen and in many areas, the flooring is uneven in height and thickness
Not sure what you mean sorry
Guys - old GC here did lousy job with 2x4” tiling my backsplash having major lippage. Will try Prism grouting in to see if helps otherwise need cover. Thought of Venetian texture or micro cement overlay. Or do what y’all be doing with vinyl. Have a sheet to use or could get Traffic master 12x24”peel&stick VT and do a skip trowel texture over Thoughts?
Would Pergo void the warranty if I install their LVP or Laminate over my existing ceramic tiles? (someone in HD said few products aren’t intended to be installed on top of tiles) not sure on this yet
Thanks for watching you’d have to check with your manufacturer directly… don’t trust the hd guy
What if the tiles are broken underneath ? How to deal with that ? Any tips ? Thanks
Localized removal and add a cement leveling product
Any concern of losing height of the room/ceiling by adding floor over existing tile?
No. It was 1/2” so not a big deal
I plan on doing vinyl over tile but I currently have carpet in the rooms but I also want to do vinyl in the rooms how do I make up for the added height of the tiles to transition into the rooms?
You would have to buy a transition strip to address the height change. You can find them at your local building supply store
Hello -- I realize that this video is from 2020, but I wondered if you put down the wood floor for this customer as well, and if you might know the brand and colour names/codes.
Hey there. No all the floors were already installed, and we are not professional contractors this was just in one of our houses
Thanks for watching
Thank you for your response, and for this excellent, informative video.
Do you have to fill the grout lines in the tile 1st?
Grout lines were minimal depth and our flooring was 1/2”… it performed fine.
U can level the grout lines if your concernd
Just wondering why you cut the baseboards down? We just left ours and it went the thickness of the floor higher and covered the old caulking line just fine
The only reason we did is the floor we raised tied into a floor we didn’t and the base board spanned between the two… I didn’t want to adjust the rest of the base boards in the house. Thanks for watching!
Great video!
I'd love to do the same, but we have got underfloor heating under the existing tiles. Do you think I can still do the same without losing the underfloor heating functions?
Thank you. Yeah I don’t think it’s a good idea to do this over heated tiles