Fareed Zakaria: Colleges are not the communities they once were
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- CNN’s Fareed Zakaria shares his take on the pro-Palestinian protests at major US universities, and the broader issue behind the turmoil on campuses.
#CNN #News
You call that a take... Funny how you never mentioned why they were protesting.
True.
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
he's a corporate tool, he only cares about his fat paycheck
He knows the parameters of his take and how it should be presented.
What he said is still valid even if it didn’t show the entire segment from the full show. CZcams clips are often cut short
There is nothing difficult to understand about the protests on campus.
Thank you for your comment. Funny how Fareed is suggesting that there is something wrong with the students. Total mainstream media nonsense.
Fareed has officially entered the "Spin Zone" as another spinster used to call his segment 🤣
Agreed. Qatar is the #1 donor to US Universities 20 years running and this along with Oct 7th has been in the works since at least 1 week before Saudia Arabia was to sign a peace agreement with Israel. Couple that with the media arm of this enterprise making up casualty numbers, manufacturing a fake famine that never happened, never reporting on the number of Hamas combatants killed (IDF says 20k) or IDF soldiers killed (600+) not mentioning 20 years of rockets into Israel from Gaza 80K+.
Our people will not perish because of your confusion. Hamas will no longer run Gaza. Protest all you want. Nothing will change that.
Did Dana Basch... Bash the Liberals?
Coordinated protests is evidence of lack of community?
It's not about coordination, it's about brainless testosterone driven kids.
I know right, the cognitive dissonance is breath-taking.
They are coordinated by outside actors, it’s the opposite of the spirit of community
@@jeffstrand601 Outside forces. You mean Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci? 🤣😭
Very typical dismissive response. Most protestors know exactly what they're doing, even the ones I person don't disagree with. If you don't want to engage in the argument they are presenting, just say so. Otherwise, keep your strawman bs to yourself.
CNN MSNBC and Fox have not had student protesters on the air giving their point of view.
That’s the most interesting observation. Isn’t that absurd?!
@@waelhussein4606 CNN did put a student protester on the air the next day.
Google: Fareed Zakaria apartheid
As a student at Yale University in the mid-1980s, Fareed Zakaria opposed anti-apartheid divestment and argued that Yale should not divest from its holdings in Apartheid-era South Africa. He co-signed a letter to Paul Giamatti's dad condemning peaceful anti-Apartheid protesters (downthread).
Gaza exposed the corrupt politicians & media!
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
Fareed doesn't have the courage to speak the truth. He only cares about his cushy position at CNN.
Check his Wikipedia page it’s there. Where did he get this mumbo jumbo analysis from? I’m proud these young people are drawing attention to the genocide in Gaza.
Fareed doesn't think young people are conversing. Perhaps it is he who has lost touch.
He is Indian. Of course he supports Israel and loves to see Muslim Palestinians getting destroyed. His home country is doing the same thing to Muslims in Kashmir.
You are right. His soul is empty.
As a parent of two college kids, one of which is about to enter UCLA, I’d say the left wing and right wing students don’t converse anymore, just like in society. They don’t even hang out together like I did when I was at USC in the 90’s. And that to me is a big problem. Conservative kids, of which I’m not a conservative, view colleges as left wing schools, and rightfully so in my opinion. For every action, there is a reaction, and It’s going to be interesting to see what the reaction will be from the other side.
He's shameful. Always has been. Just a paid puppet of the network.
@MrDellasc they do with the ones that live in reality. I'm a progressive who does talk to a lot of conservatives as I live in Indiana. But I'm not going to waste my time anymore talking to people who don't live in reality. We're getting tired of it. If I have to spend an hour convincing someone that Biden is president, it is just not worth it. My patience has run out, and for my own sanity, I prefer not to waste my time or theirs. Is it right, no, but I just can't anymore.
So u saying these kids are doing protest because they are lonely and wanna camp out for fun?
😂😂😂😂😂
And a sign of social acceptance for them, you are cool and hip if you do so. Thats what they think.
This is the most bizarre monologue I've seen from Fareed. Maybe College students have eyes and ears and can see the disproportionate collective punishment being delved by the Israeli government on the Palestinians and feel morally obligated to speak up. I'm actually quite proud of these youngsters. Gives me hope for the future.
Agreed. So bizarre.
The more media struggles to find its footing over this the more I’m reminded of Noam Chomsky’s infamous Andrew Marr interview from years ago… if Marr then, or Zakaria today believed any differently they would not be permitted to sit in their chairs…
I understand your position, but at the same time, he has a point. People don't engage anymore person to person. This new generation is Deficit in community and are too shelter to the point they don't even like speaking in person. Everything is thur txt or zoom. That's a problem.
@@Whyulaughingthis is not really the case, as a person deeply involved with young people this age. It’s wildly overhyped
@@jessd4048 that is your opinion. From my experience it's the opposite.
@@Whyulaughing I’d offer this could be your experience around middle and upper class kids & non-neurotypical youth?
The poor kids are not glued to screens and overscheduled into ‘enrichment’ programs & pressure full time, in general they are speaking and interacting on par with the kids from the 90’s & early aughts. One difference I observe is they are a lot less racist & judgemental and a lot less mean to one other than earlier generations. They don’t scrap, haze & bully one other anywhere near as often.
Free Americans from AIPAC 🇺🇸
Free US of muslims
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into a toxic bastion of anti-American liberalism, wherever insane Godless mental disorder and sexual depravity is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
Free Israel from barbarically Evil Islamic terrorists 🇮🇱
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into toxic bastions of anti-American liberalism, where every insane Godless mental disorder, sexual depravity, and pre-birth homicide is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
DENIED , Free Western Civilization from CAIR
I used to have utmost respect for Fareed, but his take on this collage protest is whitewashed. Not for once did he mention the reason for the protest and how protest is one of the bedrock of our democracy. He simply undermined with absolute n0nsense.
Agreed. This really seems like an effort to pin blame on anything or anyone but the people bombing an entire people out of existence, or those militarily supporting them.
Hmmm in other words divert and ignore.
Fareed what happened to you?
He doesn't want to get canceled. He doesn't want to say the truth for political reasons. His network got a memo from the Whitehouse
Blame it on technology...not the decision makers. how lame...
Exactly. Such a boomer, tone-deaf take. Opposition to apartheid and genocide are the primary explanations, but that would be too inconvenient for him to acknowledge.
Yeah, back in his college days, Zakaria was pro-apartheid and debated in favor of denying blacks in SA democracy and equal voting rights. Dont believe me? Look up his college and his debate group while at that college.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Nation supported Apartheid South Africa
- But calls itself Democratic
- Are they Democratic?
That's the hypocrisy of America!!!!
and you think SA is doing better under the ANC dictatorship?
That is how he became rich
Open Mecca to non Muslims!
Their movement is spreading throughout the country and the world - what are you talking about?
easy to turn a blind eye when the narrative doesn’t suit you
It might be spreading but it's not changing anything except more work for the health department.
Your take is ridiculous. You are literally the old man complaining about “these kids these days…” This is different from 1968 in exactly zero ways. These kids see the actions of the powerful, they see the injustice, and they are rising up against the empire. Period.
And these kids are way better educated and equipped with knowledge and unfiltered information. They make decisions based on conscious NOT on constructed set of ‘facts’ or narratives
LMAO ....Get Real ...This is the generation that cant funtion without their cell phones and money from daddy. Most have no clue who Hamas is ...
Exactly
look, you don't get it. it was fine when they protested because they were doing it "right," but now that folks in the media get their paychecks from the folks these kids are protesting, the college kids are doing it "wrong" 😂
@@South-of-the-Border you just learned about Hamas Oct 7 wtfuta.
Typical of C.N.N. to have got this so wrong!!
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
AGAIN
Actually it is so right. When have you visited one??
lol, troll
Students agree with me : healthy discourse
Students disagree with me: damaged communities.
You literally described the LW today. If you disagree with them, they think “it is violence”. The dumbest people today are young LW who think everyone should agree with them or they will heckle and chase away anyone who does. But the same stupid LW thinks actual violence is fine.
My daughter’s college experience was centered around alcohol. It wasn’t part of the experience it was THE experience. Empty and sad.
Always offended, never ashamed
seriously, when college protest as united and crystal clear as ever, he doesn't know what to make out of it?
Well how much did AIPAC pay him?
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
AIPAC hasn’t paid him but scared Hell out of him they can send him packing with one phone call
Mind Begs the Question:
- Pledging unconditional support
- To a State whose policies are
- Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Democratic or Nazi?
Worn out words used by a supporter of hamas barbaric mass murders, girl rapists, and babies/children kidnapers. Which bit of this is a 'thinking human being'? @@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
How much did Soros and the Rockefeller Foundation pay them? And Qatar?
It's a genocide, Fareed.
Stop Genocide Gaza 😢
Mind Begs the Question:
- If policies of Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated
- Doesn't amount to Holocaust?
Stop Lying about Gaza...There is not genocide in Gaza ...Stop Muslim dissimulation and lying. Stop Islamic settler colonialism. #Trump2024ToSaveAmerica
Why hasn't Egypt just opened the Rafah Gate and welcomed in all the Gazans as refugees? Egypt could save Gazans today. Egypt built the wall in 2009 to lock in the people of Gaza.
Palestine population has grown dramatically. Some genocide.
Jewish and Christian population has gone to zero in Muslim countries, now that's a genocide.
As for the Palestinians, not even Muslim countries will take them. Ever wonder why? Because they are radical terrorist supporters who not only elected Hamas as their government but speed terror wherever they have been allowed in. Look it up. Israel could at any moment turn Gaza to glass but they don't. Palestine would kill every Jew if they ciuld , but they can't. Stop talking and lying like the Nazis did.
As a student at Yale University in the mid-1980s,
Zakaria opposed anti-apartheid divestment and argued that Yale should not divest from its holdings in South Africa.[8]
He seems to be speaking with both sides of his mouth. I read his first book which read more like a thesis. It was exceedingly boring.
Yeh, Fareed is a smelly hypocritical turd from way back. Otherwise he wouldnt be working at CNN.
Good to know
So Fareed never claimed that he did and that doesn't take away from anything he said in this piece.
Despicable
Sorry to see Fareed minimize the courage of student protesters
What courage, they are blackmailing
colleges and universities across America. They are making the American Jewish students feel threatened. They are fighting law enforcement, reminds me how maga disrespect capital police.
He's bought and paid for
@@mendoza4789 Gaza took their masks off!
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
lol courage? If you want student "protestors" to show us some real courage, go and protest over in Gaza.
He is righ about the decline in community but i don't see how it is related to protests
These protests have nothing to do with your Yale nostalgia. These protests are about injustice and genocide. Focus Fareed, you're trying to minimize the efforts of these young people and it won't work. Your monologue is boring and off topic!
Google Genocide*
Injustice sure yes,
But Google Genocide
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Your talking about the beheading of babies, rapes murders and the wall Egypt is building?.
well put
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
Does this guy realise 40000 human beings have killed..... Good on the young people for standing up and speaking out.
Do you realize you are quoting Propaganda numbers from a terrorist organization?
You mean 40,000 terrorists and terrorists in training have been eliminated in combat.
Why aren't they speaking out for Ukraine. Again Palestinians voted for Hamas in Gaza. What did they think would happen after Hamas attacked Isreal on Oct 7. We did the same after 911.
I don't think he's saying there shouldn't be protests, but that both sides only engage through social media or in-person screaming
@@stevestoll3124 How would you know what/who the real numbers are?
That was such a weird report… it’s a literal community of different groups of people, different religions, coming together for something greater than themselves. standing up against genocide, if anything it restores my faith in humanity, it is so inspiring. The sad part is in a few years these pundits will look back as if they were on the side of the protesters the whole time
Standing up for grnocide by destroying property?
@@jeffstrand601property damage has not been a theme of the protests you absolute hack 😂
Yemen expressed its concern on the rapid deterioration of human rights and liberties in the USA, where professors and students protesting against war and a plausible genocide (ICJ dixit) are being silenced by force, beaten and jailed by police and threatened with expulsions by authorities.
You weren’t up against the ADL & AIPAC
😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😅😅😅
Don't you mean DEI and lgbtq
@batman said with a hard R. Everybody knows you.
Fareed is a coward.
@@user-go1nr7dz1u this default accusation doesn’t work anymore
"It's difficult to make of the turmoil these days ..." The very first sentence shows how clueless Fareed is.
Turmoil was far wors fifty years ago, He didn't know THAT?
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
He's not clueless. He's something else.
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
Well if he said otherwise CNN will have to revoke him 🤣 😅
What is $300 billion? The amount of free aid your governments give to a very small country far away. Where were our taxes spent?
Netanyahu is more important to USA than its own government.
Several things come to mind at my age of 81. How you going to keep them down on the farm? or It takes a village. Speaking of which our son just called from Vancouver. We are in Massachusetts. Walmart started it all. Buy low sell low sell high and let the communities (real people) fly kites.
The kids these days are doing exactly what they should be doing, engaging in civil discourse and making themselves heard. This isn't any different
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE HAMAS-INSPIRED PROTESTERS --- MANIPULATED BY TERRORIST SLEEPERS.
This is the kind of nonsense talk we need to focus on during a g3noc!d3 !?!! Zaharia is the one out of touch with these students communities !
Your talking about the beheading of babies, rapes murders and the wall Egypt is building?
So you are telling them to be like Boomers! LOL Good luck selling that.
@@PolymorphicBytes what do boomers have to do with anything? Are you unwell you sound unwell
Who is the highest paid person on the major university payroll?
1)College President
2)Political Science Dept Chairman
3)Football Coach
That tells you alot about the initiative to control the learners and the university at large.
@@abdikatar8410 Sports is the opiate of the people.
Not just the universities. College football coaches in several states are the highest paid state employee.
4) Endowment Fund Manager
@@presence5426 5) DEI Lawyer
I remember well when I came home one day from school, wearing a P-scarf. My father was furious and my mother tried to explain to me that, even when my motives were right, I was not seeing the big picture. 30 yrs later, having watched the conflict every 3 yrs reappear, having had 100ds of debates.... my allegance has changed. Back then the Hamas were not "founded", but the PLO was. And what the leaders have done to their citizens is simple, they kept them in poverty and did nothing to improve their lives. And they had multiple offers since the 90s from nations not consideredd "imperialist". Against any peace improvements, against reason and most of all against empowerment. They turned hope into hate. Hate into extremism and extremism into online propaganda for all fresh young minds, trying to find a cause. If the Palestinians wanted a democracy, they could have done it easily. When Arafat got the nobel peace prize......next logical step could have been what the israelis already had.... but they refused. Why are students fighting for something the palestinians refuse to establish? It's not logical, nor common sense.
"If the Palestinians wanted a democracy, they could have done it easily."
I mean West Bank is still a democracy that holds elections. But Fatah is useless at doing anything, IDF invaders have open access West Bank lands and Israel routinely sends armed settlers to go steal homes. No West Bank Palestinian is allowed to defend themselves.
The Israeli funded Hamas which controls Gaza has not had an election since 2006 because they rule with an iron fist.
Lies and lies and lies !
"Friends don't let friends commit genocide."
Why don’t you go work at Fox News or the daily wire Fareed? It’s very weird how the media is so obsessed with young people. We got much bigger issues to deal with in this country.
Once you fully appreciate how low our legislators (our role models, and builders and maintainers of our system) have become, then you can understand why everything in this country is the way it is.
and who votes those legislators into power? every people on the planet has the gov they deserve
Have you seen my neighbors? No f’ing way ima befriend them… they are nuts
Uh - Huh. 50+ years ago, we Hippies had nothing but respect for the quality of our leaders.
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." -- ecclesiastes 1:9 Maybe young people are just frickin' annoying?
What ‘system’ would that be? ‘Our’ system? If everything is the way it is, it is more likely because of YOUR system - whatever THAT system is.
Do you take such a dim view of America that you can only describe it as a system?
One of the amazing thing is even though our leaders are corrupt, brainless, and spineless, these college kids still have integrity enough to speak truth to power
As a professor myself, I have been witness to the process by which Campuses went from collegial, argumentative, thought-provoking years embracing a diversity of thought and backgrounds to an impersonal corporatization. The same can be said for medicine. Until we realize that not everything is best undertaken solely with a profit motive and the 'corporatization of America' is not used with a sense of pride, we will continue to breakdown bonds of community, discussion and humanity.
Thank you.
I think if you ask the average pro-Palestinian protester in the US what "river to the sea" means ... and compare that to the average Palestinian's response - you'll get two VERY different meanings. Most Palestinians will say that Israelis should "just go back to Europe" - yet , the majority of Israeli Jewish families can still trace their lineage to the areas surrounding Israel/Palestine during the 1943+ expulsions of the Jews from Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Ethiopia, Lebanon, Syria, etc. They look indistinguishable from Arab Palestinians. It seems that the US protest movement hasn't even bothered to read Wikipedia before hitting the streets in force but are happy to have a new cause now that BLM has been knocked down a few notches in their credibility (especially after promoting the "we don't need allies, we need accomplices" mantra. Bottom line - think twice before supporting organizations that merely tolerate your support, but have a very different agenda than you may think (not all people think like you - even if they're "friendly" today). Unfortunately the October 7th attack served to create the precise over-reaction that's happening today - by design Hamas knew tens of thousands of Palestinian lives would be extinguished - but just didn't care. I can't get behind either side in this conflict - but I don't want innocents to die (albeit very brainwashed innocents). Think about this - if you don't support a two-state solution (or you do), you may be planting the seeds of civil war within Gaza that will lead to many more innocents dyeing than we've already seen. Netanyahu is bad, but Hamas induced Sharia law across the region is worse. Both need to go.
You killed 14,000 children and want more kids dead?
This is an excerpt from the Likud Party Charter (Bibi’s party)
“The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the SEA AND THE JORDAN there will only be Israeli sovereignty.
Horrific take
This is happening by design: universities don't care or want students to be outspoken or critical thinkers, but rather obedient and silent customers indebted for life. Students don't see their classmates as partners but as competition for scholarships or a good job. It's hard to create a sense of community in a place where grades and personal success are the priority.
Wow…merit matters! Who knew! Maybe it’s so our Boeing jets don’t have their doors flying off. Nobody cares about your social stances
And yet they stand together putting their education on the line in order to make their country a better place.
Wish these students would put their energy into protesting the cost of American universities. These higher ed schools have been leaving families in debt for decades and denying children education because they can't afford one semester. Where are their proprieties? Help your fellow neighbors first and let everyone get a chance to receive higher ed because this is a big injustice at home here in the USA.
*FAREED IS NOT ONLY GETTING ROASTED AND RATIOED IN THE COMMENTS, HE IS ALSO GOING TO LOOK BACK ON THIS VIDEO IN 10 YEARS AND WANT TO ERASE IT!*
These young kids are clean and have full sense of justice not dishonest like this puppet.
The manifestos of the protest leaders call for extermination of global Jewry.
They're not the people you think they are.
Sure. Did they read the Hamas Charter? It's no different than Mein Kampf. The Brown Shirts were just as clean?
he's on AIPAC payroll
The important point to consider is that these students are future leaders and politicians. The older generation of politicians in the White House and the Senate should be cautious as this may lead to their production. American politics is evolving and the media should be prepared to accommodate these students and their right to express their opinions freely.
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into toxic bastions of anti-American liberalism, where every insane Godless mental disorder, sexual depravity, and pre-birth homicide is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
Without imposing and distributing others people life’s with that freedom..
The way Palestinians after 911 were dancing and shouting death to Americans around the world and they were agreeing with the Taliban.
Future terrorists
Opinions fine;hate speech and killing people is not....difference
Look at south Africa now, the crime is out of the roof. No power, no employment. Honestly we blacks got problem. we need to look inwards. Not a country in Africa is something to write home about. Are we the only country colonized. Time to look forward and inwards
mid-1980s, Zakaria opposed anti-apartheid divestment and argued that Yale should not divest from its holdings in South Africa.
AND it is a huge generational gap. People over 45 today don't understand the youngsters at all. Plus they refuse to discuss with the youngsters. Instead they hope to impose their way by authority... which is a wrong way to go.
Students: There is a genocide going on!
Fareed: Students are lonely😭
Talk about an intellectual effort to diminish the protests and to infantilize politically informed and well-organized communities.
Oct 7th: A terrorist attack takes place. Oct 8th: College students and professors support the terrorists
Yea this is a weird take
"Politically informed" lol
@@ek5273 You might be surprised. Colleges make you work these days.
Not once did Fareed criticize the Israeli government for their actions in Gaza. This guy is just a tool of the US government.
I remember being excited to be in a class of 300 students. Then it happened, and you realize you don’t get to know anyone. You make more connections with a smaller setting. I made more lifelong friends from my small
Community college than I did once I transferred to a big university.
Totally agree with you - most of my remaining friends are from my school, neighbors and smaller college classes.
well, this is RIDICULOUS. I haven’t felt more in a community in MONTHS until joining the encampment during the day at usc yesterday. I have never felt in a more safe environment, everyone was talking, working on homework, meditations were being led, and professors were giving talks on knowing our rights, anti semitism, etc. The only agitators we had was one man who came thru the crowd filming everyone, declaring loudly he was a “proud zionist”…
The real "community" is the sophisticated infowar networks formed by grownups in the Palestine movement w/ its domestic partners (Islamists, Western radical progressives) & foreign partners (Qatar/MuslBroth'd, Iran/IRGC, Russia).
So proud of you. Faith in humanity restored too.
Love from Pakistan
When humanity's been decimated, all that's left is politics. And politics is ugly.
“Israel working to block feared ICC arrest warrants against PM, and others over Gaza war”. The Times of Israel. 4/28/24
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into toxic bastions of anti-American liberalism, where every insane Godless mental disorder, sexual depravity, and pre-birth homicide is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
Well what's new in this ?! And how many are paying attention ?
Mind Begs the Question:
- Hitler demonized the Vulnerable
- To justify Evil Laws,Genocide necessitate
- For Security reasons
- If a PM/Govt repeat same strategy
- PM/Govt is Democratic or Nazi?
And? Did the ICC have arrest warrants for Hamas, Hezzbollah, Iranian Mullahs?
I’m 100% remote in college, and with parents again, who have mental health issues. I’ve been in a state of chronic freeze through my whole time in college because I have no community and my parents don’t understand my own disabilities. It’s like the colleges turned a blind eye to the complex PTSD people in my perspective.
We have young people united in a similar cause, pitching tents and camping together on campus. You wanted a community? Now you got it.
You could have just said. All the adults have put material goods and addiction to money over the community. Hence the giant debt they built. As it was never sustainable. I have no interests in the society at large if this is all they have to offer.
The kids are alright. It's the Baby Boom that created the world we live in now.
Exactly
Be careful what you wish for. The 1960s protesters gave us this world. How did it work out?
How so?
And you want Sharia law?
The problem with this video is context, or rather decontextualization. It's fine to talk about universities as communities, but not in a period when there is an active event going on that is the centre of all commentary on the topic. Nothing that is going on now is about how well campuses operate as communities, nor did Fareed give anything resembling empirical evidence in support of his argument, and it would be difficult to do so for many, many reasons.
Rather it comes across as using the protests as a reason, entirely tangentially to talk about something unrelated to them.
If anything, inherently, protests are communal activities. Of course they involve disagreement and division, but they also involve working together, meeting, discussing, and engaging. They are fundamentally community-oriented activities aimed at using the power of collective action to reshape the broader community.
And to be very clear, I don't think the sharpness of the divide over this topic has anything to do with students. It has everything to do with a United States that has always had a very sharply defined and one-sided media narrative concerning the Levant, one that other western nations have largely not engaged in, and one which cannot survive contact with reality. Students are more plastic, they are able to change their views and their understanding of the world, and so the transformation of their perspective has been explosive compared to older Americans.
But that is, frankly, the fault of those older generations failing to ever adapt to the realities rather than the narratives historically. This was always going to happen someday, it was only a question of circumstance. The presence of social media, the wide distribution of camera phones, the continued escalation of dehumanisation, the creation of a dominant political coalition within Israel that overtly and publicly favoured ethnic cleansing, and then, an outrageous terrorist attack, but also a justification to act on those existing tendencies.
A lot of people saw all of this as inevitable, including many Israelis. And when it happened, as it has happened, young Americans were always going to be the first to change their perspective, and to begin to educate themselves on the history, one the things they were never taught, and never had any reason to research. On the things Fareed has of course lived through as a journalist, and certainly the things Joe Biden has lived through, given that Biden is older than the state of Israel.
I guess everyone thought this video was going to be all about the protests since they're in the news this week, but I think Zakaria just wanted to talk about a different aspect of it and I appreciated how he describes changer over the years. 30 years ago, I myself remember endless conversations in college on issues of the day until the wee hours--I wonder if that still happens as much or in the same way. I expect it does not.
Editing on what a wise man once said... It is difficult to get Fareed to understand something, when his salary depends on him not understanding it.
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Mind Begs the Question:
- If USA Politicians accept funding
- By a Pro Apartheid Lobby
- USA Politicians are
- Pro Democracy or Pro Apartheid?
you hit the nail on the head
The arguement for all these acts of loneliness and less community is as follows: CEO pay is 500-1, wages have been stagnated for over 40years, actual union participation is at 7%, productivity has increase while wages haven’t gone up, technology and automatization, and the outsourcing of American jobs have all been promoted by our Capitalistic model.
In the 80s, I remember students chanting: "US out of El Salvador." And now the Salvadorans have left as well and come to the US. I guess the protests were pretty powerful.
Cuz they hate Genocide??
I agree. I would also add that the present "social media" has made people vulnerable to extremism and ease the creation of social silos. It makes people lazy in their personal analysis of the situation. It trivializes arguments and allows people to take positions without background or context. It also doesn't help that there is disingenuous use of free speech, just to goad people. I have zero interest in many speakers at places like universities and colleges. But to intentionally invite people on the outrage factor to generate publicity is in itself trivializes debate. And it even happens in the commentary.
Truth. Got a bachelor's in the 1990's. Best time of my life. Racked up $12K in debt, paid it all back. Got a master's in 2019-2023. Prior to covid, campus community was just ok. Covid wrecked everything. Now I have $120K in debt and barely any friends from campus. And was mentally exhausted by the program.
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
the turmoil is the recognition of an injustice I am so proud of these students
We made car centric hellscapes. You can only get places by cars and that means the barrier to do things is quite high. I am currently living in Germany and social life seems to have recovered here and in other European countries quite quickly. People have gone back to walking to the pub, they have gone back to having a sandwich at a bakery and meeting friends.
The last few times I have visited friends and family in the USA I have had to ask people to put away their phones while out having dinner together. Even though I see some of these people only once per year and we went out to dinner together they just can't manage to stop doing stuff on their cell phone. This is not something I have run into in Europe.
Colleges have intertwined themselves with the military industrial complex. That's what changed. That's what we're protesting.
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into toxic bastions of anti-American liberalism, where every insane Godless mental disorder, sexual depravity, and pre-birth homicide is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
Troll
@debdeb children's arms the size of twigs
There’s a tragic irony in universities instilling ethical values in students, and then punishing them for exercising those values.
No student loan forgiveness. Make them pay
Addendum: And colleges are NOT the same, as I, jobless, can attest to with my multiple advanced degrees.
society is not the same - not just colleges - this guy is a boomer - its the fault of his generation who have had voting power over everyone else for a long time - he just doesn't want to be held accountable
The job market is booming.
Oh my, I don’t think a job is your problem. It might be closer to home.
What field are you in?
@@debdeb62065 The shit job market is booming. The good job market isn't booming.
I was a student when Charles Murray’s book, “The Bell Curve,” was published. We should have shut him down. We didn’t. Now we live with that inaction and young people are determined not to make the mistake that my generation made.
Why is it a good idea to “shut him down?”
Charles Murray is a serious scholar whose work has stood the test of time.
Why not mount a counter argument?
@@davidweber5833 “The Bell Curve” is essentially repackaged eugenics. There were responses to it, such as the book “Not In Our Genes.” But as we see nowadays, the marketplace of ideas, just like the financial markets, can be skewed and distorted by a relatively small group of very powerful players.
In 90’s, as with decades before, my university had Free Speech Alley every Wednesday in front of our campus Union.
It was a discussion, not an aggressive & violent mosh-pit.
Before discussing, you should learn about the reason of protest…. If not, its just a bullshit
That's what they said in Germany in 1933.
This was the first time Fareed was not interesting or important.
Because he's not telling you what you want to hear?
You mean the truth Mr. Turd
He is Indian. Of course he supports Israel and loves to see Muslim Palestinians getting destroyed. His home country is doing the same thing to Muslims in Kashmir.
Why some points were valid.
@@debdeb62065: Yes valid but uninteresting or important!
No, communities still exist today, they've just gone online. The issue is that this online connection means they no longer have a social connection to the people that are physically near them. Which may be a problem but it's not the problem HERE, this protest is more about power dynamics than divisiveness.
There is only one side that is not listening and is smearing anyone who criticizes it or talks about war crimes, apartheid, rights of ALL people ! Anyting against Israel is termed as anti-jewish or anti-semiti or pro-hamas - tells you a lot about the dearth of any credible, logical, sensible case against college students protesting apartheid.
🤦♂️ And CNN not the station it use to be these days. Let's act we we care and not face real issues.. let's just shed light on the people standing up against the system that do us wrong 👏👏 smh
Social media didn't exist and as a result echo chambers were never as strong as today compared to Fareed's time at College.
Its also okay to oppose Israeli policy and conduct.
Why, Palestinians voted and helped Hamas a terrorist group. After 911 Palestinians were dancing and shouting death to Americans around the world, along side the Taliban another terrorist group. Jewish people were in Gaza a 1000 years before Palestinians.
"You lose your job, you lose your membership in the community."😢
More importantly, WHO IS PROFITING from all the money flowing into these colleges & universities? Public tax dollars as well as tuition payments are literally flowing into someone’s pocket!!
Tuition payments are not the $$ driver. The big money is in the interest paid on student loans. THAT is big business.
The financial picture is complicated. It varies by state. Some colleges are private. Loans come from the federal government often, or sometimes private lenders. The "pockets" are university employees, vendors, etc.
@@cryptidsntunes Most of the loans come from 3rd parties or the government. The only money the colleges get is the sticker price.
Saddest of all, social collapse starts at home for (arguably) most people. And that is where is should be restored primarily.
Isolation, alienation and loneliness is one of the biggest threads to democracy
The comnents seem to have missed his point. He's not talking about the protest, he's talking about the wider concept of community. Ironically most of the comments support his argument
It's the the older generation that created this chaotic atmosphere.... they didn't do to themselves....then look at this recent Antisemitism propaganda that came from the older generation , basically bullying them for doing the right thing , seeing injustice and cruelty being carried against the innocent and speaking out against it .. that's what adults should be doing, and taking the led in , that's just completely backwards that's the problem don't try to blame them for yalls mess!!......all this recent anxiety and depression found in them came from the older generation,not leading properly thru example... look at Congress and how they act..it matters it really does
so well put thank you.
His reasoning just doesn't add up. College students today seem more vibrant, breaking away from the norm, and resisting institutionalization. I'm curious about Fareed's perspective on this.
Damn. I’ve always really appreciated Fareeds takes. I know his informed and nuanced, so this can’t be ignorance, just his preference and or attempt to help manufacture consent. Truly sad 😢
Zareed- I have attended many, many concerts in my life. And that has been a major part of my social life. The spiritual and emotional nourishment that happens there is incredible. Large groups of people all on the same wavelength and vibrations of beautiful music 🎶 experienced spontaneously with all of those people has been profound for me and them.
And a whole lot of fun (!)
Peace, love and community through music is still alive and well. ✌️ ☮️ 🕊 💖 🎪
Thank you for commenting on how Covid is a contributing factor in the continuing isolation of us all.
People are more aware of how much of an industry college is. Military industrial complex ties, administration that cares more about the money than the students, it’s evident.
Colleges and universities in America were originally created to promote Christianity and other moral biblical values America was founded upon. But today they have turned into toxic bastions of anti-American liberalism, where every insane Godless mental disorder, sexual depravity, and pre-birth homicide is championed, and racist hate and violence such as anti-Semitism is fostered, as support for barbarically evil Islamic terrorism is forced upon all.
Civil discourse ended with social media rise
What happens in Washington DC has an impact on Students.
I'm shocked...I've yet to see objective coverage of the relative size of these protests and their relevance. All news outlets ( right and left) are making it sound like students everywhere are upset. Columbia University has 36,000 students! The VAST majority of students there and on every campus are not upset! A very small minority of students are protesting and yet it's treated like BIG news and over sweeping conclusions are reached. The news media needs to keep their perspective on it's relevance and no it does not even compare to Vietnam protests!
You think it's a military objective to starve Palestinian children so you are dismissive of the importance and widespread nature of these protests.
They are upset
The Columbia main quad looks like it is holding a maximum of 1-2K protesters out of 36K. It’s a small group closing the school and cancelling graduation for all. That’s neither persuasive nor pro free speech.
They are upset they can't go to Class. @@kmick8108
Right now the young people are the redeeming voice of america
Tik Tok generation? I don't think so
Israeli news channels, how come you never mentioned why they were protesting.
You can thank DEI and critical race theory for causing the fragmentation and division by forcing those to focus on our differences rather than on what we have in common.
This is the generation that ate Tide Pods. A brilliant group.
The social aspect is the absolute least of the problems with higher learning. The universities are failing as academic institutions.
In an environment where unemployment is at historical lows, graduates are finding fewer and fewer job opportunities upon graduation because they aren’t qualified to do anything an employer is willing to pay for.
Further, you can’t even trust their research anymore. The plagiarism and fraudulent data is at crisis levels.
Colleges need to first get a grip on their core competencies. It’s hard to trust and feel connected to an institution you feel is overcharging you and setting you up for failure in your career.
Welcome to neoliberal academia. These problems exist because noone is paying for peer review, academics are underplayed and overworked ... but wait, you're just saying this because you don't like the politics of these young people.
Oh, dear me! How authentic! Do you see how everyone is soooo empowered? They're walking in their stunning truth as they move barriers and break boundaries (at the end of the day, a few of them even shattered glass ceilings; and that's like really radical)! I overheard some speaking of context-dependent social constructs; that caused my jaw to literally drop as I fell to the floor in rapt worship and adulation!
The stunning bravery and unprecedented courage allows them to confront the traumas which are indelible in the hippocampus! That's really breathtaking and heartbreaking because they're really making the world a better place, as an inflection point on their very noble journey! Did you hear their voice? They're being a voice for the voiceless (that's like... really powerful and moving).That's like... um... soooo... I mean... iconic because they have agency; they're like... um... bending the arc of the um... moral universe to... um... like... social justice! Did you review the "takeaways" and "things you need to know"? Don't forget to reach out and, most of all: be AUTHENTIC! Black Lives Matter!