Episode 45: Leonard Susskind on Quantum Information, Quantum Gravity, and Holography

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  • čas přidán 5. 05. 2019
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    For decades now physicists have been struggling to reconcile two great ideas from a century ago: general relativity and quantum mechanics. We don’t yet know the final answer, but the journey has taken us to some amazing places. A leader in this quest has been Leonard Susskind, who has helped illuminate some of the most mind-blowing ideas in quantum gravity: the holographic principle, the string theory landscape, black-hole complementarity, and others. He has also become celebrated as a writer, speaker, and expositor of mind-blowing ideas. We talk about black holes, quantum mechanics, and the most exciting new directions in quantum gravity.
    Leonard Susskind received his Ph.D. in physics from Cornell University. He is currently the Felix Bloch Professor of Physics at Stanford University. He has made important contributions to numerous ideas in theoretical physics, including string theory, lattice gauge theory, dynamical symmetry breaking, the holographic principle, black hole complementarity, matrix theory, the cosmological multiverse, and quantum information. He is the author of several books, including a series of pedagogical physics texts called The Theoretical Minimum. Among his numerous awards are the J.J. Sakurai Prize and the Oskar Klein Medal.
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Komentáře • 283

  • @NuclearCraftMod
    @NuclearCraftMod Před 5 lety +157

    Sean Carroll and Lenny Susskind... awesome :)

    • @randallmcgrath9345
      @randallmcgrath9345 Před 3 lety

      2 of my favorites, along with Brian Greene, and increasingly, Alan Guth. I also found one of Alex Vilenkin's books.

    • @aclearlight
      @aclearlight Před 3 lety

      @@randallmcgrath9345 when i hit the wappijuu7

    • @aclearlight
      @aclearlight Před 3 lety

      M, what are YOUR intentions?

  • @timenotspaceproduction
    @timenotspaceproduction Před 8 měsíci +4

    i think that i'm supposed to be here right now , listening to this whole conversation while i'm working in the studio today 🧬

  • @Bpaynes
    @Bpaynes Před 5 lety +52

    Leonard Susskind one of the most brilliant scientists of our generation; also sounds like he could beat the shit out of you in a bar fight lol

  • @alexmartos9100
    @alexmartos9100 Před 5 lety +113

    Have never clicked so fast in my life!

    • @dumpsky
      @dumpsky Před 5 lety +2

      just click PLAY 1x. the video then should play automatically.

    • @cozy_af2090
      @cozy_af2090 Před 5 lety +1

      You always had and always will click as fast as was predetermined.

  • @ZacksMetalRiffs
    @ZacksMetalRiffs Před 5 lety +85

    I'm a simple man. I see Susskind in the title and I click instantly.

    • @CstriderNNS
      @CstriderNNS Před 4 lety +1

      your lost

    • @readingRoom100
      @readingRoom100 Před 3 lety +1

      Only because all his previous talks have failed u lol

    • @lukegratrix
      @lukegratrix Před 3 lety

      You recognize genius when you see it. Says something about you Zack

    • @harsszeg
      @harsszeg Před 3 lety

      U belong to the 90 percent ...do not worry Susskind is 0.01 percent, I love him and still get lost.....its not for everybody

  • @rumidude
    @rumidude Před 5 lety +58

    Lenny Susskind is a delight!
    Thank you for having him on the Mindscape Podcast!!!

  • @jaykingston2171
    @jaykingston2171 Před 4 lety +6

    I idolize Leonard Susskind, I've read and watched just about everything I can find that's been published by him. His fascinating YT lectures introduced me to science and they led me to seek further education. He's one of science's greatest minds.

  • @zachfrazier8027
    @zachfrazier8027 Před 5 lety +128

    "Your optimistic, I'm 78." Hilarious

  • @Jaroen66
    @Jaroen66 Před 5 lety +67

    I rarely give instant likes on YT videos, but this one required it

    • @zaratustra00
      @zaratustra00 Před 5 lety +2

      same here, instant like

    • @pxlarquitectos
      @pxlarquitectos Před 5 lety +5

      wow your clicks are so wonderful and rare, Sean Carroll is a lucky man

  • @stephenkamenar
    @stephenkamenar Před 4 lety +21

    Leonard Susskind is a living legend

  • @bendavis2234
    @bendavis2234 Před 3 lety +6

    I highly recommend watching his theoretical minimum lecture videos on CZcams. He explains many key equations and proofs without getting too deep into the weeds. He’s such a great lecturer.

  • @tomwimmenhove4652
    @tomwimmenhove4652 Před 5 lety +26

    I am ridiculously excited about this one :)

  • @erictko85
    @erictko85 Před 4 lety +2

    59:24 "And the other thing that makes you think you're on the right track, is when something that you've been thinking about, turns out the same mathematics, the same sets of principles, turn up in another area..." awesome to hear stuff like that from one of the great theoretical minds I've had the pleasure of listening to. Thanks Drs. Carroll and Susskind,!

  • @ed.puckett
    @ed.puckett Před 5 lety +1

    Dear Dr. Susskind, the story about your father at the end was very touching to me personally because you have become a teacher of mine as well. Thank you.

  • @robertglass1698
    @robertglass1698 Před 5 lety +7

    So, great. Even though I've spent several hours listening to both of these guys talking before, I now understand the Holography better from this than I ever had before.

  • @WildAnimalChannel
    @WildAnimalChannel Před 5 lety +19

    I like listening to geniuses. There's no flim flam and waffle. Just pure thoughts.

  • @FABRIZIOZPH
    @FABRIZIOZPH Před 5 lety +4

    What I like about him is that he always proceeds with caution with what he says,, Even in response to some of Sean's comments, Because he values very much the meaning and power of every single word, And that is because the only way to truly understand every concept and make real progress with a theory is to be very very clear about the type of questions you ask and the framework your start from

  • @gloomyend7452
    @gloomyend7452 Před 5 lety +19

    I've listened to all your podcasts, I'm addicted to your voice and knowledge. Thank you 🖤

    • @Anita_Bath
      @Anita_Bath Před 5 lety +1

      Even so, "i'm addicted to your voice" is a creepy thing to say in general.

    • @gloomyend7452
      @gloomyend7452 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Anita_Bath not when it calms down my panic attacks.

    • @readingRoom100
      @readingRoom100 Před 3 lety

      @@gloomyend7452 have u considered a 12 step program

  • @TheSchultzZ
    @TheSchultzZ Před 5 lety +20

    i love listening to this even tho i dont understand anyting thanks sean love u

  • @manishsingh-vk8if
    @manishsingh-vk8if Před 5 lety +4

    This conversation was really very illuminating. Thank you Sean.

  • @bikashthapa7316
    @bikashthapa7316 Před 5 lety +8

    thank you so much i've been waiting for this so long

  • @dianabudzik7636
    @dianabudzik7636 Před 4 lety

    Immense thanks for having on the brilliant and wonderful Leonard Susskind!

  • @aerx
    @aerx Před 5 lety +13

    Omg I have not even watched and I know this is going to be great!

  • @LiorSL1
    @LiorSL1 Před 4 lety +1

    As a computer science student and physics enthusiast i think the collaboration of both fields is amazing as was stated here , Awesome podcasts ! :)

  • @AstroFerko
    @AstroFerko Před 5 lety +2

    So glad you made this episode! Thanks! :)

  • @ugowar
    @ugowar Před 5 lety +1

    I can only wish this chat had gone for another hour at least, always a pleasure to listen to Leonard.

  • @grahamhenry9368
    @grahamhenry9368 Před 5 lety +2

    Seeing the title of this episode was like Christmas morning as a little kid. My two favorite people to listen to on the same podcast? The only thing I wish they had discussed in more detail is the ER = EPR idea

  • @joyecolbeck4490
    @joyecolbeck4490 Před 5 lety +13

    Thoroughly enjoyable - an hour too short! Huge thanks to Lenny and Sean for another great podcast. 😎

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 Před 5 lety +1

    Great way to start my work day listening to these two brains.

  • @Cnidarian64
    @Cnidarian64 Před 5 lety

    Just discovered this podcast from CZcams recommended. Now I have 45 episodes of science podcasts to listen to 😀

  • @AstroFerko
    @AstroFerko Před 5 lety +3

    This episode is absolute gold

  • @wilfredoaldarondo5649
    @wilfredoaldarondo5649 Před 5 lety +2

    Me too. I was waiting to hear the latest Leonard's thinking about recent findngs and the future of probing string theory and holografic principle.

  • @nathanmiller200
    @nathanmiller200 Před 4 lety +3

    I enjoy listening to both of you. Listening to Susskind is like my Morgan Freeman. I hope one day I can continue my physics degree. I majored in physics in college but college became too pricey.

  • @brinx8634
    @brinx8634 Před 5 lety +1

    Great guest and an interesting talk, thank you Sean.

  • @freeair9460
    @freeair9460 Před 4 lety +1

    GREAT pod cast..! Several of my favorite subjects of science

  • @vr_37300
    @vr_37300 Před 5 lety

    Haven't listened to, but already liked. Kudos for inviting a legend.

  • @SolSystemDiplomat
    @SolSystemDiplomat Před 5 lety +22

    Just bought your book *spacetime and geometry, an introduction to general relativity* Can’t wait for it to arrive in the mail!!

  • @Well_Earned_Siesta
    @Well_Earned_Siesta Před 5 lety +1

    Yes! Figured/hoped you'd get around to having Susskind on the podcast!

  • @asylumofglass
    @asylumofglass Před 5 lety

    OMG He did it! He really did it! Thanks so much for this!

  • @johnphil2006
    @johnphil2006 Před 5 lety +4

    The most awaiting one ....!

  • @Ascendlocal
    @Ascendlocal Před 5 lety +1

    Absolutely phenomenal exchange between two of the smartest, respected and cutting edge theorists of our species

  • @volaireoh883
    @volaireoh883 Před 5 lety

    Superb thank you Sean and Lenny.

  • @jaimecassar8427
    @jaimecassar8427 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks Sean & Lenny!

  • @sinarain101
    @sinarain101 Před 5 lety

    It was delightful listening to this podcast

  • @elphidium
    @elphidium Před 4 lety +4

    Hi Sean, I really enjoy your podcast! Keep up the good work! Have you ever considered talking with Max Tegmark about his idea of the "Mathematical universe"?

  • @nda4591
    @nda4591 Před měsícem

    Fascinating conversation!!!!

  • @Jason-gt2kx
    @Jason-gt2kx Před 5 lety +4

    Sean, my hypothesis that Dark Matter is not a WIMP, but maybe is a deformation of space-time by which the curvature of space-time ALONE is the cause of the gravitational effect. Gravity is the consequence of the curvature of space-time. It may be possible that the structure of space-time itself could be warped without the presence of mass. Space-time has been shown to react like a fabric by warping, twisting, and propagating independent of mass. These properties have been proven with observations of gravitational lensing, frame dragging, and now gravitational waves. Fabrics can be stretched, pressured, and/or heated to the point of deformation. Such extreme conditions were all present during inflation, so it is plausible that space-time’s elastic nature could have hit its yield point and permanently deformed. Therefore, if gravity is the consequence of the warping of space-time, and fabrics can be permanently deformed, then a deformation could create a gravitational effect independent of mass. Thus, the unidentified dark "matter" that seems to be so elusive to modern science may not be matter at all but merely warped deformities causing gravitational effects. DM could be a microscopic black hole with no mass at the center...
    Prediction: Spacetime's elastic property hits a yield point, so only that part of geodesic's "stretch marks" would remain after inflation stopped. These steep gravitational wells would not follow the inverse square law. Any thoughts?

    • @amadexi
      @amadexi Před 5 lety

      If space-time had plasticity, it would make it much less fundamental than what it seems to be.

  • @georgefrichter4596
    @georgefrichter4596 Před 5 lety

    physicist and fan of Susskind for ~ 30 years, what great fun!

    • @georgefrichter4596
      @georgefrichter4596 Před 5 lety

      My dissertation used the Kogut-Susskind Hamiltonian as a starting point for lattice computation experiments. Thanks Lenny!

  • @michaelbruns449
    @michaelbruns449 Před 2 lety +1

    Profound bedtime stories, listening to these mind bending nightmare inducing discussions, through real headphones in the dark.

  • @theomanification
    @theomanification Před 5 lety +5

    Cool fact...Sean actually played the intro live with Lenny on base

  • @yaserthe1
    @yaserthe1 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant, lets get the snacks and coffee ready. This should be awesome.

  • @DongLabUTHSCSA
    @DongLabUTHSCSA Před 5 lety +1

    Great job Sean

  • @mitchkahle314
    @mitchkahle314 Před 5 lety +3

    Wonderful. Thank you.

  • @robatalan
    @robatalan Před 5 lety +2

    I'm putting my headphones on for this one 😎

  • @jakelabete7412
    @jakelabete7412 Před 5 lety

    Awesome. Two of my favorites.

  • @coecovideo
    @coecovideo Před 5 lety +2

    great guest thank you

  • @michaelmcmurray9252
    @michaelmcmurray9252 Před 5 lety

    Very nice discussion. Stimulating !

  • @CriticalPhemomenon
    @CriticalPhemomenon Před 5 lety +4

    This is awesome ...

  • @Erwanito123
    @Erwanito123 Před 3 lety +2

    I think we can all thank lenny for doing what he's doing, I myself am a computer science student and this type of talk is amazing I never thought about learning such things in a field that distant of mine (I figured out not that distant actually lol)

  • @MoebiusUK
    @MoebiusUK Před 5 lety

    This is such a treat

  • @YoshiTatsu1
    @YoshiTatsu1 Před 5 lety +1

    This deserves billions of more likes

  • @studham1
    @studham1 Před 4 lety

    Cool... Sean inviting some Tim Morton ideas into the convo... i love when physicist bring up philosophers and vice versa

  • @AlphaFoxDelta
    @AlphaFoxDelta Před 5 lety

    I have never had an hour go by so fast

  • @constpegasus
    @constpegasus Před 5 lety

    Love these videos.

  • @lukegratrix
    @lukegratrix Před 3 lety

    Dream big like these two and share your crackpot thoughts, because the next Sean and Lenny are already out there thinking deeply and trying to make sense of the world. Best possible interview on the subject IMHO!

  • @keith.anthony.infinity.h

    I love listening to Leonard Susskind he is very direct and clear with how he presents things. But the main thing I love about him is his ideas because I am working on something which focuses on the topic of quantum information and black holes. I found an equation which shows how surface area entropy can be used to conserve information about different quantum properties of electrons in atoms as body of mass collapses to a black hole. If anyone wants to hear about it and discuss please feel free to watch the videos on my channel.

  • @diraziz396
    @diraziz396 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice recommendation 4 years later. Good talk. now have to check the latest..

  • @calvingrondahl1011
    @calvingrondahl1011 Před 3 lety

    I respect all the scientists but being a retired editorial cartoonist I am more monkey than human. Your honesty with humor is what I need the most.

  • @sawwil936
    @sawwil936 Před 5 lety +1

    Just started listening, already know this is historical

  • @user-ep6qc6by7x
    @user-ep6qc6by7x Před 4 lety

    two brilliants I admire!

  • @chrisstewart4288
    @chrisstewart4288 Před 5 lety

    Great video!

  • @ThalesPo
    @ThalesPo Před 4 lety +1

    The content was very good, but as I always say, you have to get a volume compressor in order for the audio to be good.

  • @HouseJawn
    @HouseJawn Před 4 lety

    Great podcast, abrupt ending 😆 "okay gotta go!"

  • @RyanWalshGuitar
    @RyanWalshGuitar Před 5 lety

    omg SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!

  • @RKarmaKill
    @RKarmaKill Před 4 lety

    2 genius personalities coming together for our beautiful entertainment and learning
    Pure

  • @Fritzybedeek
    @Fritzybedeek Před 4 lety +1

    I wish the two of you would address Roger Penrose's CCC. Seriously.

  • @hmbs1630
    @hmbs1630 Před 5 lety

    Have always wanted to ask Sean why there has been such a great deal of resistance from physicists to write technical books for a public audience. Lenny really has pushed the envelope in this regard and has largely been a sole outlier.

  • @chrisrecord5625
    @chrisrecord5625 Před 5 lety +3

    In anticipation of the Scott Aaronson interview, see the article by Ben Lindbergh, in The Ringer, where he discuss time travel in the Avengers:Endgame, and he interviews Aaronson referring to Aaronson, as today's Tony Stark, even though Aaronson has yet to see the movie.

    • @chrisrecord5625
      @chrisrecord5625 Před 5 lety +1

      If I accidentally drop my library book into a black hole and by ER=EPR, the two black holes are maximally entangled,
      do each of the black holes contain the information in the book? Nota bene to both of you as a liberal arts major, I appreciate so much you continued efforts to instruct the scientifically unwashed. (Nevertheless, are the black holes liable for the library fines? Me so ornery.)

  • @panlan1
    @panlan1 Před 5 lety +1

    instant click and like ..this is like the main billing ..

  • @ecruzd3rd
    @ecruzd3rd Před 3 lety

    Wish there was video for this as well

  • @kennelson5096
    @kennelson5096 Před 4 lety

    somewhat late on checking this out but simply brilliant

  • @robertnewhart6969
    @robertnewhart6969 Před 4 lety

    Can you use quantum entanglement to create instant communications (ftl) between vast distances as long as the 2 communication stations start out together?

  • @Mike-nf6nf
    @Mike-nf6nf Před 5 lety

    Sean, can you try to get Nima Arkani-Hamed on? If I recall correctly, you two disagree on whether particles are point-like or waves. It would be interesting to hear you discuss this on the podcast. Thanks!

  • @cmdr.shepard
    @cmdr.shepard Před 5 lety

    17:00 How can you jump inside event horizon and leave? What does "jump in" mean? Something else?

  • @vinnyvdalidemonet8527
    @vinnyvdalidemonet8527 Před 3 lety

    Richard Feynman & Leonard Susskind would have been hilarious to hang around. Can you imagine those 2, just chilling together? Ah haha 😄.

  • @slamrn9689
    @slamrn9689 Před 4 lety

    Have you ever had David Gelernter on? I am sure you could come up with a topic. Great show btw.

  • @johnmcntsh
    @johnmcntsh Před 5 lety +1

    Wow, just wow.

  • @cryptolicious3738
    @cryptolicious3738 Před 3 lety

    so awesome!

  • @doodlepadhi9103
    @doodlepadhi9103 Před 3 lety

    He is truly Leonard

  • @ddavidjeremy
    @ddavidjeremy Před 3 lety

    Great scott!

  • @Nahulanham
    @Nahulanham Před 3 lety

    One has to bare in mind, regardless of derivatives sciences, that fundamentally the models we use are just that 'individual pictures,' and not to be misconstrued of evidence of what the universe really is outside of these pictures. Art, in this sense, precedes math and not vice versa.

  • @Fritzybedeek
    @Fritzybedeek Před 4 lety

    Missed asking Roger Penrose about information being lost. Too bad.
    Hope you get Lee Smolin or someone from Perimeter Institute.
    Would be nice to hear some deeper critique of Inflation and Quantum Mechanics.

  • @michaelmcmurray9252
    @michaelmcmurray9252 Před 5 lety

    Qubits may not increase switching capacity at all. Signal manipulation in weak nucleus on the other hand offers much faster information transfer.

  • @PavlosPapageorgiou
    @PavlosPapageorgiou Před 5 lety +1

    Question to Leonard: Are black hole horizons particularly unique places where the holographic principle applies? In a universe described by quantum fields, can't we take any arbitrary surface and say that what happens on the boundary, the waves and particles that cross the boundary in the totality of time, fully describe what's knowable about the universe on the other side? I thought that as soon as you accept relativistic fields some form of the holographic principle applies and maybe black hole horizons are interesting limit cases of this universal principle.

    • @KSignalEingang
      @KSignalEingang Před 5 lety

      I am not an expert but it sounds to me like you've just described one way of looking at the holographic principle.
      The edge of the observable universe is sometimes cited as another kind of EH. (Except in that case we're on the inside looking out).

  • @maxvalsaez
    @maxvalsaez Před 5 lety +4

    Woohoo saw the title and clicked immediately

  • @Nahulanham
    @Nahulanham Před 3 lety

    If one adheres to the idea of 'virtual' particles rising from the black hole, as did hawking, doesn't that dismiss his following assumptions that nothing can escape therefore it can't be recontructed?

  • @mrspiers27
    @mrspiers27 Před 3 lety

    I wonder about quantum information loss when merging black holes partially evaporate due to gravity waves?

  • @rohitrathi4552
    @rohitrathi4552 Před 3 měsíci

    Is the plank length on the shell the same as the plank length inside the shell ie our plank length? It shouldn’t be?

  • @insertoyouroemail
    @insertoyouroemail Před 4 lety

    Could you use a wormhole to travel at the speed of light?

  • @madderhat5852
    @madderhat5852 Před 5 lety

    Until we observe black hole and know what it is/does and if it does radiate in Hawking radiation , how can we know?