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The most important thing with the FX6 ii is the price drop on the original FX6.
As someone who’s about to buy a Canon c200. This just makes me want to wait a couple of months
Hi Kofi,
For me the minimum is to have a new sensor and new codecs that support
- 4K in crop mode (S35)
- Open gate readout and anamorphic desquize with all existing ratios
And a mike input on the body
And a native monitor fixation that supports the weight of the FX9 loupe
Thanks Kofi,
I think you nailed a good selection. I'd only add a few:
XOCN-LT and XOCN-ST.
CFast B.
Dual Native ISO.
At least 6K Capture.
5.5" Touchscreen.
Upvote on the IBIS, continuous ND and Open Gate.
One day 👊🏾
Just bought a second, I love the 6.
If they sell an audio adaptor to replace handle that is compatible I will be buying two of those.
An FX6 II would 200% be a must buy camera
Binge watching your videos lately. I am about to invest in the FX6, and I have been contemplating whether or not I should get 2 AV Pro 1 terabyte cfexpress cards, or an atomos ninja v+ with a 2 terabyte sd. If you could only pick 1 of those setups, which would you go with? With the ninja setup you get raw, a big screen and 2 terabytes that can handle all but the 4k slow motion. with the cfexpress cards you get the slow mo but no raw, no screen, but a smaller setup (which may be bad for handheld stability). Thoughts?
I’d go cards first Tbf so you’d Never have to buy them again
I dont know the work you do, but I have found time and time again, not needing an external piece of gear or set up to complete a task is always better. I find the ability to turn on a camera and its work indispensable. Granted I shoot a lot of weddings so your milage may vary.
Having more flexible codes like we have on the Fx3/a7siii would be amazing. Also having proxies in camera lower than 1080p.
was thinking exactly the same.. i will wait for an updated version of the cam before i upgrade further and hope that sony engineers are watching your vid :)
Ahah even if half this list is covered, I’ll be happy 🙏🏾☺️
Great ideas man, I have been debating on upgrading to the FX6 or just working with what I have and waiting a year for the mark 2 to come out. I know there are already lots of rumors out there about it
We probably won’t hear anything for another year more than likely
Hello Kofi. quick question I need to update my FX6 to the Firmware 3.00, the problem is that I still have version 1.00 and in order to update I need to install version 2.00 but it's not on Sony's site anymore. Any idea how to go by updating the camera?
I’d maybe contact them! It should still be there somewhere hopefully !
@@KofiYeboah thanks , yes that's what I'm going to do.
Is there a possibility to have both IBIS and no IBIS? Like locking the sensor
I have no idea I wish 🥲
I think camera companies have said it’s impossible to have Ibis and internal ND’s unfortunately. But if they can add that new digital stabilization from the ZV-E1 I think that could be a cool compromise
Correct, it would be great to have both internal ND and IBIS, unfortunately they both need to occupy the same physical space in front of the sensor.
Doesn’t the canon C70 have both?
Doesn’t the canon C70 have both?
Audio in other than the top handle - I do double system sound with my FX30/Sound Devices MixPre3 II, record mix scratch track with video - use audio recorded with MixPre in edit (WAV file). I'm unsure about the timecode with FX6 but the FX30 can be jammed sycnd..
It absolutely can be , I just think it’s silly they couldn’t get a 3.5 in that bad boy 😪
For me I really need both genlock and timecode for VR work. Right now Sony is really only allowing the Venice for VR work but not everyone can afford that. Everything else you said are also great additions, especially with the current competition happening right now in the sub-10k arena.
I am not fully aware of all requirements for VR work, but the FX9 has genlock and timecode support. Granted it is not sub 10k, unless you buy used, but it's substantially closer to the mentioned 10k budget than the Venice ;)
@@MichaelKefeder You are right the FX9 does have that however the need for the $2500 XDCA attachment as well as the initial price of the FX9 of $11,000, which is now just over 4 years old, really takes it out of the running. Today for $13,500 you can get 2 Komodo cameras, both with global shudder or the new Komodo X rigged out. You can get a URSA from Blackmagic for $6,000. A Kinefinity, Canon or even the Panasonic Lumix has genlock for under $10,000.
I hate to say it because I own 2 FX3's, 1 A7sIII, and an A1 camera but Sony is really starting to not be able to "read the room". Unless you want to buy a Venice. Unless you are a CZcams creator or blogger, then you can have your pick of Sony cameras that will work for you.
I hope sony start going for 6k recording or the video line ups (a7siv and other camera that will come with it) but I also agree with the down sample and the rest of the points you have. FX6 mark 2 would sound exciting with all the feature you said.
Even if we get half of that it’d be great 👍🏾
I think they cant implement IBIS because there is simply no space between sensor and E-mount for both internal ND and IBIS to fit together.
E-mount is really really close to the sensor. It could work with something like EF mount that has tons of space since it was designed in mirrored cameras era.
That makes a lot of sense !
@@KofiYeboah personally i prefer a sensor without IBIS. the stabilizer sometimes creates weird jellos you cant really turn off when there is no sensor lock option.
I think the gyro data is great. I havent tried sony's catalyst yet on my a7siii but my blackmagic pocket also has gyro and Davinci natively can stabilize using that data. In some cases it almost makes the footage look like it was shot on gimbal.
@@Siimkristjanpariis yeah you right 🙏🏾🙏🏾
12 bit colour for the win
That would be great honestly
Open gate is essential for anamorphic.
Need to do that.
Maybe it’ll come !
I don’t know if Sony will come up with a version two,it’s still selling very well.I would like to see a new handle and a software update.I’m sure the FX6 is a lot more capable than what they are giving us firmware /software wise.
Hopefully we get some updates
Un-desqueezed 😂 love the word
I just make things up ahah
Been looking into the Kinefinity for a while, saw it on a production, looked up the specs and I was like okurrrr. I haven't seen much of the image quality so i don't really know
I need to see a lil more image from it , but I’ve heard it’s amazing
Loving this content!
Thanks !
Xavc L is 10 bit in HD
when is it suppose to come out?
Your guess is as good as mine lol
I believe you can’t have ibis & internal NDs or if you can it’s rediculous let large & expensive.
I’d love a good quality 5 inch monitor that gives me full control over the camera, touch control & anything else a ninja or small Hd gives me. I hate having 2 monitors on board. ( would be happy if this was a paid extra)
Fix the audio handle issue!
Give the ND a little extra on both ends
Would love a 6k sensor at 60p or 80p like the Komodo X & 4K 240 would be beautiful.
To fit the extra processing power & hopefully an inbody xlr input remove the bpu most people don’t use put the power in there & then put a swapable battery mount on the back so vmount, gold Or bpu.
And for the love of us all build a good quality scratch mic in!
And if they stuck with the stupid audio handle at least make the audio portion of it removable with a ribbon cable to the on board connector so
We can mount that onto a cage or other handle like The tilta one etc!
That’s some of my wants! :)
Haah can’t go wrong there !
I'm with you on that one Jed! I wish there was a better monitor that supported touch focus tracking other than the crappy Sony monitors they give us.
@@mattcarlson12 amen! :)
Still waiting on the FX9 ii 🪦
FX9 sensor in an FX6 body / frame rates + an XLR port on the body - I wish
Honestly, fix the top handle and give me a downsampled image and I’ll shut up 😂
NO! Gimme false color haha! love this video specially about playback!!!
Ahah I almost NEVER use that monitor outside of getting my touch AF😂
Definitely going to see 8K 60fps. But also needs better codecs than the original.
I'd love just a nice Long GOP 10 bit in between the 8 bit and all-I and I'd be great
I want a sony fx6 with in body xlr ports and a Blackmagic sensor that records internal raw 😎
That’s basically the fx9 with extra steps, but I feel you 🤙🏾
A mark 2 already - did everyone that wanted one get one - they can push alot of improvements via firmware. this camera is near perfect already
Sony has a camera every 3.5 months , least we can do is dream 😂
There’s some things firmware can’t fix, like the audio issue, nd filter, sensor resolution and menus. A mark II would make perfect sense for the fx6 at least
I know that silhouette! Sam Okunola is that you!? Coach!
You know dissss 👀
Would be cool if they do in Mark 2 for the FX6 but I feel like they're only going to do it for the 9. But hope I'm wrong. The FX6 was probably way more popular than they anticipated.
Oh I don’t doubt that !!
Full sensor open gate and an 8k downsampled to 6k processor.
That would totally be an fx9 think I’d guess
@@KofiYeboah I think the FX9 is 6 to 4K down sampled. Plus making the FX6m2 6K just makes more sense numerically 🤓
I wish there was a crop sensor version of the fx6.
Technically it’s the fx30 😅
@@KofiYeboah It'd be great to have a crop sensor in a professional body. Similar to how the fs5 or fs7 is.
I just want the FX3 mark II
Triple base ISO maybe? 800 4000 and 12800 🤔 if thats even possible
UFO detection Autofocus 👽🛸
Hey man we might need that one
What if… they go double duty and add in internal mist filters along with ND filters? 😂
That’s just called never cleaning the sensor , it’s “character” bro
@@KofiYeboah lol I love me some character!😂😂
its sony bro， and fx is their documentary line，not cine line，sony would never put mist on that
@@frankhu8692 according to Sony, it’s part of their cinema line along with the fx3 and fx30? No?
@@frankhu8692 it actually says “cinema line” on all 4 fx cameras ? Wym?
Yo I just got my FX6 a month ago, let’s not talk about Mark II lol 😂. I hope mark II comes out in 2 years so I can enjoy this one.
😂😂😂 I got it a bit after launch, I doubt they’ll have one before an fx9ii announcement you’re fine !
Damn Kofi did you chew on that top handle or something?! lol!
It’s a running joke on this channel, basically I’ve been using my camera so much the paints gone, the shock mount broken
It’s seen things
Your point about the ND being too much of an initial jump is my biggest daily nag tbh.
An xlr on the body would be nice and perhaps a down sampled 6k sensor so it can do super 35 in 4k.
I'm not bothered about 8k.
A mid range base iso would also be really helpful as someone else suggested.
Yeah a mid base iso would be unreal, 12,800 feels too high 😂
6k sensor means no low light that’s the fx9
@@theovisuals9 Could they not create a sensor capable of 6k downsampled but improved sensitivity in low light?
The FX9 sensor is getting on a bit now isn't it.
Nice wish list. I think you’d be lucky to get 10% of that list. That’s just not how these companies work unfortunately.
You right you right ahah
I use and love the FX6, but even at it's launch I felt the FX6 just got the leftovers from the a7sIII dev team frankensteined with some leftover FX9 features. The a7sIII really refined the bugs and quirks of the a7sII, but the FX6 is very clearly a first gen model. Menus are a mess, usability like the no audio without handle, no anamorphic de-squeze, no XAVC-HS, and other weird quirks are the growing pains of this new(ish) generation. I'm very hopeful Sony will polish up these issue with the next generation, but happy with what we got for now.
I love the camera despite the imperfections but I totally agree !
Hs codec and 120 fps sound I need
Some of the stuff are left out to protect FX9, which has even more flaws. For example, FS5 already has XLR input and EVF on the body but they took them out on FX6.
But isn’t xavc-hs an software update possibility? Or do you need to have certain type of hardware. Honestly thats something that I really miss xavc-hs 100/120fps for sports
@@wesley.lenting should be
when is it coming? July 2024 still no word.
Your guess is as good as mine
If they put everything you wish for in the mark 2 we get a camera twice the price.
It probably will be , and I’ll have my wallet ready
I want open gate
We all do ahah
What if fx3 mark 2 🙏🏽🥲
Hey let the expensive cameras cook first 😂😂 jk
If they put a 6k sensor in the FX6 it would be pointless to buy. The reason for the lower resolution is to take advantage of it's low-light capability. Higher res means lower low-light performance, thus making the FX6 pointless. That is a single operator necessity. If you lose that, you'll need a crew, lights, etc. The FX6 is a low-light camera with bells and whistles. A 6k senor currently can't gather the light. So if you want 6k, just buy an FX9.
So what you’re saying is that Sony in a perfect world would have to make a sensor that can do both ? 😅 sounds like we’re on the same page
@@KofiYeboah You hit it on the head! Low light and 6k! 🤯But I believe that sensor would be breaking a rule of physics. Besides that, if they did, who would buy a Venice?
@@originimages4662 if they gave the Venice 3 an 8k not down sampled and the fx6 was just 4K from 6k at least it’s still like “we tried to make a distinction”
I would never buy a camera as limiting as the FX6 and ever worst with a sensor that comes in a $3500 camera. 😂
👍🏾
Lol so you want a perfect camera
All I want is the perfect camera.
I’ve never known that to be a bad thing 😅
@@KofiYeboah ha but of course if they ever gave you that, what would be there offer to get you to upgrade to a new camera, they would in turn be screwing themselves
@@joshpassaretti5408 give the fx9 raw, couple extra ports, ssd recording, maybe a 6k not downsampled , then rip Venice 😂 I jk
In my opinion - did you ask for too much? Absolutely not. The fact that other competitors are making HYBRID cameras be more "cinema" than Sony cameras that literally have the word "Cinema" line written on those cameras? Its kinda laughable and I think Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with alot of what other companies are releasing right now - especially at their price points. I have alot of friends who have already sold ALL their sony cameras and lenses and completely moved to Panasonic. To be honest? All the features you mentioned should be in the MK1 of the FX6 already. Its a "cinema" camera. I want to see sony still be one of the top brands in cameras, affordable cameras, and a company that makes a camera that has the word "Cinema" written on the body of the camera....actually be "cinema"
Here’s the thing , I think we but I T.O. ecosystems not just a camera on its own, even with a lack of features , the fx6 was so demanded that it was back ordered for like a year , so they did something right, just weird that things left out were kinda silly ahah
@@KofiYeboah yea thats what im getting at, its just very strange to me alot gets left out on their FX line of cameras. Me? Im a big FX30 user and just bought my second one because I just love the camera and its form factor for what I do, but not having DCI 4k 24P? Not even the FX3 having it? Im not understanding why Sony is just taking the A7SIII and throwing the guts of them into different bodies. And most of what we are asking for are "features" not even changes to the physical camera. Most of the features arent even the crazy tracking features thats in something like the ZV-E10...just basic "cinema" features you find on other cinema cameras. Thats all. My big one with the FX30 right now is shutter "speed" and not "shutter angle", its really annoying constantly changing shutter speeds when I change frame rates, when I should lock in an "angle" and my shutter angle remains the same as I change my frame rates. I just find Sonys approach to their FX line a bit....odd. Don't get me wrong these are FANTASTIC cameras, but it just lacks a few things all they really need to do is release an update for to remain as a competitor
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