Should You Upgrade to the Sony FX6?
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- i wanted to further break down some of my thoughts from having recntly made the leap to the sony FX6. i have been loving this rig and cant wait to get more work under my belt with it. it is a truly special camera and i think it's a great option.
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You get an instant sub from me. Your content delivery is key. You talk like you are in person with people. Not ultra fast, not all of the things people do not need to know. Thanks
thanks so much for this. my whole goal is to keep it real. the fast paced stuff is very popular right now and i just don’t fit in with it. i always prefer a conversational approach like i’m talking to friends. appreciate the sub! 🔥
Great refreshing sincerity in this vid. Thank you. I’ve been considering the FX6 next after getting an a7s iii and an FX3, both of which I adore. You’ve given me lots to think about.
thank you for the awesome comment! i will say, i have only loved the FX6 more and more since this video. it is the best camera i’ve ever used. the learning curve is real, but adaptation is quick if you put your hours in with the camera. it is easily the most efficient camera i’ve ever used and it is tons of fun. i just had a shoot a little over a week ago in Boston where I had the FX6 and A7S and i really only used the A7S for gimbal stuff. the FX6, even for simpler work is what i reach for now because i love the ergonomics and design of it so much. it is a true video camera
Great insight man. I'm loving to see you grow!
thank you dude. we gotta collab on something!
@@ChristianElia We'll talk soon
I'm based in Iceland and I've just moved from having a Z Cam E2-M4 and E2-S6 to just an FX6 and so far, I'm loving it! I shoot photos with the A7iV so now I just have one lens system which is so nice too and makes my whole setup easier to carry when I do photos and videos at the same time. Thanks for a great and informative video!
appreciate you! i actually use my A7S for photos a good bit and really enjoy it for that. very cool that the alpha cameras can be as simple as photo cameras or a great B cam option to something like the FX6 as well
This is a really well done video. Thanks for making it!
thank you for watching it! really appreciate this 🤘🏼
You know, I really appreciate this video. I have a A7siii and I have been eyeballing the Fx3 and 6
I really want to go to the 6 and I have a lot to think about but this video hits a lot of the info I’m looking for.
Much appreciated
thanks for the kind words and i appreciate you watching the video! the FX3 is a very capable camera as well and i think you’d also be very happy with it. i would like to pick one up eventually myself
Was on the fence as well, went with the 6, so glade I did, I felt like the fx3 is just like buying the a7siii again and wanted to invest in something bigger
Loved the video content and your delivery Christian. Excited to see what comes next from you.
As a vet of 12 years in photography and filmmaking, the one tip I would give to my younger self is to seek out paid training opportunities. I hear you that there aren’t a ton of FX6 education related videos here on YT. We are spoiled by the availability of free gam online, but sometimes a quicker route is a course or workshop if you have access to them in your city. Sony puts on a lot of events where I live, as well the film schools and colleges.
thanks for the support and encouragement, i really appreciate that. i totally hear you on courses. i own multiple courses and 100% believe in paying for mentorship and guidance. it is the fast pass to the good stuff 🔥
Thank you for all the info. You are right there is not a lot of videos on FX6
Those camera B-Roll shots are super clean!
thank you man! tried something different with it. might make a video about the setup i used!
Thanks for a great video Christian. Very helpful.I really like Doug Jensens masterclass on the Sony FX6 as well.
This was fantastic man! Great work. Great video. Per my post recently, I decided to go ahead and wait until I get a few other things I need. The additional costs like you mentioned are something I know will add up so it’s not just the camera cost, I’ll need additional stuff as well. Thx for the straightforward review
thank you for the kind words man, really. and i totally hear you. my A7S isn’t going anywhere, i’m very happy with the current sony lineup altogether. all of the cameras are excellent. it’s a great time to be alive in this industry. thanks again for watching 🤘🏼
I need more camera guys calling me brother and meaning it on CZcams. Love your insight dude and I just subscribed.👊
my goal on here has always been to keep it 100% real. welcome to the fam 😎🔥 thanks a ton man! appreciate the kind words
Numbers are getting nuts maneeeee. That 1,000 coming around the bend yerrrrdme. KEEP GOING!
These videos just keep getting more quality bro
i appreciate it man. i spent a ton of time on this one adding that special sauce
You left no stone unturned 🤟🏽got mine a couple of days after you made the first video.. I’m getting use to trying to expose in s-log 3 it’s tricky hope that’s something you touch on next great video 💪🏽
thank you for checking it out! excited to hear you picked one up. honestly the exposure was one of the trickiest parts to me also. i can definitely try and discuss this in a video. if you want a short tip though, make sure your waveform is on your screen and then set your zebras up. the zebras will create orange lines on the waveform that you can use as a guide. for s-log3 i set zebra 1 to 65% for skin tones or 41% for middle grey. i set zebra 2 to 77% for highlights. so if you keep everything on the waveform between the lines that the zebras create, you should be pretty good. you can customize the zebras to be whatever you want though. hope that helps 🤘🏼
@@ChristianElia great explanation - but isnt that too complicated for run and gun?
@@nanookpictures it’s not any more complicated than looking at an exposure meter on something like an FX3. i regularly use zebras on my A7S iii as well. once you set the zebras, they’re always there to use as rough guides
I still run to FS5M2s and I really do enjoy the workflow on them. I actually like them better than my A7Siii but I still don’t have enough justification yet to invest in FX6 cameras when the increase in capability is not that much more than I currently have. Perhaps when the next one comes out. Lol. Cinema cameras are so great to operate!
yeah not sure i would upgrade at that point either. the FS cameras are still super powerful and i wish i had learned about that ecosystem earlier. i vastly underestimated how night and the day the user experience is. it is truly so fun and awesome to shoot on a cinema body with everything you need being a button/knob away and having proper ergonomics. huge uplevel. thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. About to hit the road for a 3 month road tour/documentary & need to gear up-debating between the fx3 and fx6. I have the A7IV now, but need to upgrade to something more video focused.
thank you! i'd definitely see about renting the FX6 first to see if you think it'll be a quick adjustment. it may be better to stick with what you know if you're about to embark on an important project. the FX6 is very different at first and took me a little bit to adjust. just something to think about, but you could totally do it.
@@ChristianElia Thanks for your reply. Definitely going to rent them first to make a proper decision.
Loved this video man, good stuff! I am exactly the same when it comes to getting new gear... I do SO much research, its almost ridiculous haha.
I have the FX6 and the FX30 as my B cam.
Sony LSC-BP3 is a perfect backpack for the FX6. It's well padded, It fits perfectly with the handle, screen and the 24-105 on. Plus 3 primes (35, 55, 90). It's also very affordable and stylish. I've been using it for almost 2 years now and no complaints.
I even got the LCS-BP2 bag for when I want to bring just the FX30, but I mainly use it for my camera accessories, mics and stuff.
very nice!! i’ll have to look into that bag. i’d love a lighter/easier way to transport it when i’m not flying. appreciate that recommendation big time
@@ChristianElia Of course, let me know if you'd like to see the way I set up the Velcro compartments and padding that I found the safest and most comfortable to use :)
@@lukastemberger definitely would like to see! feel free to DM me on instagram @elia.creative
do they match well?
@@tonyamartin1425 Yup, almost perfect out of the box. Sometimes I need to change the temperature very slightly by 1 or 2 in Lumetri. This could be due to lens differences too.
Thinking about selling mine and going BACK to pro-grade mirrorless. Great video man 🙏
interesting! there are definitely situations where my A7S is still the tool of choice. the small footprint while still getting an amazing image along with other features is great. however, the FX6 has spoiled me. internal variable ND along with the body and ergonomics are my favorite ever, and i enjoy shooting with the FX6 much much more than with a mirrorless. to each their own though! appreciate you for watching and commenting man!
Here for the FX6 R&D
gotta do the research 📝 thanks for watching!
I shoot on the a7III and I'll probably upgrade to the fx6 soon, so excited
man, it will be an absolutely insane jump from the a7iii. excited for you!!
@@ChristianElia Yeah for sure, it will be insane !!
When you say it doesn’t have a 3.5mm audio jack do you mean the headphone Jack? Bc mine has one one on the main panel at the bottom, it has a protective cover.
no i mean a standard mic jack. it only takes XLR mics and not the many other types of on-camera mics that cameras like the A7S iii use. you can get an adapter to use with the XLR inputs, but i would have loved a mic jack on the body of the camera
Im looking to add a camera to the pack. Initially I was looking at a1 or fx3, but I already own an a7siii so I'm not sure if a fx3 makes sense seeing that it's really close to what i have and a1 seems to be more of a photography camera. Im somewhat new to this space, but my vision for the additional camera would be more of a short film, documentary and growing to short movie/movie range. Just wondering how quick I'd run thru the money I've saved to add a camera. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
I just got a fx6 well I had it since October I wanted the camera since it came out but I got an a7siii a few months prior . But I wanted to step my game up so I brought the fx6 . I’m watching videos and playing with the camera
glad to hear you got one!! hope you love it
You need to try the C70 bro i had bouth and the C70 is a fu+king beast! But the FX6 is a beast too! Great Video bro
man i was SO close to getting the C70. a friend of mine has one and it’s awesome. the body design and me being pretty invested in Sony already is what made my mind up. appreciate the kind words!!
Doug Jensen's FX6 master class is also a great source to master the FX6 menus, customization, etc. However, it is not free. But I think it is worth it.
will definitely check this out! i’ve watched almost every Alister Chapman video on it. might as well soak in some more
The only thing I don't like about Doug Jensen's videos is the 6 month limitation. For that much money his videos should be free or at least have a 1 year rental limit. But exactly at 180 days, the rental period ends and one has no longer access to the videos.
I understand it takes quite a lot of effort but at least, give people a chance to go back and use the videos as a reference for longer than the current limit period without incurring in an extra cost. That's my take on his videos.
Also good to know Alan Chapman has not just one but several videos on the FX6. I thought he only made one video. Will look for his other videos on the FX6. Thanks!
Definitely the TRUTH story of the FX6 👍🏻 that is my opinion too
thanks for watching!
nice review
i appreciate it!!
Good vid man! Cammackey just switched over I bet you’ve watched a bit of his stuff.
oh yeah love cams channel. he’s a big inspiration. thanks for watching and for the kind words!
currently using a6700, I have a7IV but wanting a different feel, I started as a photog, but now getting into film, I have been researching comparisons from fx3 vs fx6, and just by looking, I feel an fx6 shape will inspire me more to shoot than traditional looking/ mirrorless cameras, number on the mic thing, especially when investing thousands more.
i'll tell you right now, i enjoy shooting with the FX6 much more than with my A7S. its built solely for shooting video and the small differences between the FX3 add up. FX3 is the better do it all camera since it also shoots photos and is nice and compact... but you already have compact cameras. i think the FX6 would be a nice addition to your setup if you feel like going for it! after having it for about a year now, i've only fallen in love with it more and more. best camera ive ever used by far.
@@ChristianElia thank you so much 🙏🏼 i am going to pull the trigger on this one! 💯
Mainly Use the Fx6 for streaming and vlogging
Great name and good video. I do have a question. I am brand new. 2 weeks into learning Davinci resolve and looking to buy my first camera. I plan to migrate into shooting documentaries. Would you think it is better to just get the FX6 right away rather than the FX3 or A7SIII? if my end game is to be there?
i would not get the FX6 as your first camera. i’d get something like FX3 or even an FX30 to make sure you want to stick with it and continue investing. and then once you eventually decide you want to move up to an FX6, you can use your first camera as a reliable second camera. while the FX6 is awesome, it’s going to be a very steep learning curve and a very expensive investment if youre just starting out. i’d even look at something like the FS5 ii or the FS7 ii. those cameras are basically what came before the FX6 and they are still very good and widely used cameras that you can find for much cheaper these days. and it’ll be similar to using an FX6
@@ChristianElia That makes more sense to me. Thanks for taking the time in replying.
hey I way thinking about moving to the fx6 from the black magic 6k just because of the one man ideal when filming , it takes me so long to put the 6k together . what do you think?
i definitely think it depends mainly on the type of work you do and what youre willing to sacrifice in order to gain in other areas. there is no doubt in my mind, the FX6 is the most efficient camera on the market. it can definitely be a dream to use for a solo operator.
but, you will be giving up some nice things that the p6k delivers. things like internal raw, other codec options and the beautiful blackmagic image character. i think the image on the FX6 is also amazing, but just something to think about.
you will gain amazing autofocus when you need it, incredible low light capability, full size XLRs, a much more well designed body for video work, and a lot of great lens options.
both cameras are awesome but like i said, it will depend on the work you do. i will say though, i think its hard to be disappointed with the FX6. it is an insanely good camera that is so easy to just pick up and use. if most of your work is solo stuff then i think it is a great choice. i have been extremely happy with it!
thank you for your great reply, that's what I needed to hear, before I invest in anymore follow focus lol, I just think going to the fx6 for the autofocus, I can spend more time focusing on other thing when filming short film.@@ChristianElia
im still using the sony FS5M2, with the Atomos Shogun Flame 7. I prefer the Flame 7 over the ninja 5. the new ninjas over heat.
I shoot corporate video. I have both cameras. My FX-6 is my A-Cam and my FX-3 is my B -Cam. I agree the cost go up exorbitant ly when you move into the class of cinema cameras. Such as $280 on a GDU V-Mount battery, $398 for a 160GB CF Express type A card, A Tilta battery plate and Tilta top plate totaling $200 plus the camera cases….the list goes on and on. Once you get into the cinema camera class expect to spend big to complete your rig, it’s not like the Mirrorless cameras…the cost goes up on every accessory.
Come on! Stop complaining about the cost. In the days of Betacam cameras, those cams cost upwards $25k just for the body, not even viewfinder or power supply. Then the first HD cameras came in early 2,000, and to do corporate videos I remember I invested in a $40k camera (no lens, no viewfinder, no power supply, no nothing except the body, everything you had to buy additional). Today's cameras are a thousand times better in quality and super cheap at less than $10k !!!
And in today's dollars that $40k camera would be much more.
People are getting really spoiled these days.
I love everything about this comment. I think people who are just getting into video are spoiled by the whole $3000 DSLR/Mirrorless setup and the loads of inexpensive supplies and accessories. Video ain't cheap and once you move up from the toys and get your first 'big boy' camera, there definitely is some sticker shot. But I'd rather pay $300 for a reliable memory card than going cheap and getting hosed out in the field. Hell, it beats the dropping a few hundred $$'s for a box of 20-minute Beta SP tapes that will wrinkle and go bad in three months. This new crop of photogs have it made...born at the right time.@@TelevisionCrews
Few things to point out.
1) I thought that screen said Chris D’elia at first
2) if Kurtis Conner became a filmmaker, he’d definitely have your look
3) where’s my dad? Oh. Found him. Nvm
4) great video! Thanks for uploading!!!
lmao i love this. thank you!!
@@ChristianElia glad you did! You work hard so I wanted to leave a comment that hopefully made you laugh. It’s wonderful laughing with strangers. Enjoy your day my friend!
@@earnieboy54 we need more people like you. seriously appreciate this. enjoy your day as well!
Is there a way to shoot 4k 120 fps without being in S&Q?
not to my knowledge. i’m pretty sure it’s only S&Q. i actually considered mentioning that and probably should have. i never shoot 120 though, i’m always in 60p
Im really into making short films and torn between the Komodo X and FX 6..do u think the FX 6 has the range to make good films
absolutely. especially as a solo operator/creator. the FX6 is unmatched in that area. komodo is the better crew camera and has the edge on image. but, i honestly love the image out of the FX6. especially when you do take the time to really expose and light it properly. the image is gorgeous. the camera as a whole provides a ton of value for solo creators, not to mention it’s a much more cost friendly system to invest into at the start
Just waiting for FX6 ii with 6k or 8k opengate
i’m honestly not interested in higher resolution at all. if they release an FX6ii i’d just want it to have audio inputs on the body and more codec options and i’d be happy
If FX6 got 3:2 open gate mode for anamorphics I would have it already. But its sensor is 16:10 :(.
open gate would be a great addition to this camera. there are a few weird things it leaves out, like that 3.5mm audio jack and the lack of false color as an exposure tool. really wish it had false color built in
I am debating between the FX6 and the Ronin 4D, both are overkill for what I want to do but those two are my options, what do you think?
i was looking into the ronin 4D for myself actually when researching for my next camera. what it came down to me was my style and the type of gigs i’m wanting to do. i’m a very handheld type shooter so i didn’t want that gimbal stabilization all the time. also, the FX6 is just very popular on small film sets and corporate/commercial productions. i figured i’d have more of a chance of getting considered for that type of work with the FX6. so it really comes down to what industry you’re in and how you’ll be using it. the 4D is arguably the coolest and most innovative to come out in several years though so i don’t think it’s a bad buy
@@ChristianEliaI can second that. I switched from a canon c70 to Sony fx6. It’s not bc the image is different, it’s bc my clients (production companies) need people to fit in their established Sony workflow. And It’s easier to get hired if you own/know their products. So far I am so happy I switched. Tons of minor conveniences that make a more enjoyable shooting experience.
@@davidmorefield cool to see you here man! love your content. i do some event work in orlando every now and then and hope we can cross paths eventually!
@@ChristianElia hell yeah. Would love to have you for April’s Orlando Filmmaking event. Where are you based?
@@davidmorefield i’m in Charlotte NC. one of my main clients is an event company here and they put me on shows they do sometimes for camera work and recaps/testimonials/etc. currently i’m due back to orlando in September later in the month for a big conference at the world center. we’ll have to try and link up at some point. feel free to DM me on IG as well @elia.creative
as film maker, If I have to carry my camera and doc some footage, I probably gonna to pick up my riged fx3 instead of fx6, I use my fx 6 only for coporate and event work on tripod shoot under controled environment, which nearly never need to use internal ND. And I carry my fx3 to more complx environment, which always need an vnd in front lol. The thing I hate most when using fx6 one man band is that giant handle, which I never use anyways, cuz If I use fx6 in crew, I always have my sound guy that record sound externally, and If i'm going to do one man band, I need smaller size, especially when I have to walk in forest, mountain ,or travel to some really remote place. Carry that giant handle just for sound and no 3.5mm is just so stupid. And the camera size is also not friendly for one man gimable. Neither for public recording like in bar or church. In conclusion, I can probably get any of my work done with fx3 either riged up or naked camera with ease, but nearly half of my stuffs can not be done, or will cost way more effort if I have to use fx6. FX6 is a fantastic camera when use under controled environment, BUT for any one man band film maker out there, fx3 is more than enough, and probably better in nearly any conditions with or without rig.
That's why we have options. I have the FX6 and the FX30 and they're the best of both worlds.
I don't agree with some of your points though. The FX6 is way more comfortable handheld and if you're not using the top handle, my guess is your shots are not very creative.
Also, I use it on the RS2 and it's very easy to set up. It's even possible with the handle on if you need audio by powering the cam externally or by using the wireless mic connected to the hot shoe.
I think this is more of a case of what you're used to. I'm used to camera bodies for almost 20 years now and DSLR/mirrorless form factor was always awkward to me.
@@lukastemberger ye I think I use my camera document a lot, so low profile, and small size always wins in my side, fx 6 is really good, the handle is indeed good in hand, but it's the same like the top handle, too big, and waste my bag space, since I have to carry them a lit, anything such big will fight with my food, battery, water supply, etc. which is brutal, if I carried an handle instead of enough water, It will be a super rough day for me, and my project won't allow me to be creative at first place, survive and made it to the finish line is always the first priority for my type of shot. I love fx6 with all my heart as well, still use it if I can, and not selling it anytime soon, I'm just saying that fx3 actually can get most of fx6's job done, which might be better option for none hardcore users.
I don't understand why you wouldn't carry the fx6 with the ND's. Its literally designed to be run and gun.
I don’t know with the fx3 I just don’t really see the point in the fx6 other than more modular and built in NDs.
i hear you. the FX3 is the better choice anyway for several types of gigs. after having the FX6 for a year and a half or so now though, it is the best camera ive ever used by a mile. the body design and hand grip alone makes it miles better in my opinion, and it's something you really wont appreciate until you use it and really get a feel for it.
i do not miss rigging out my A7S3 and i still dont rig it whenever i use it today other than adding a v-mount battery. hand grips and figuring out cables and everything on a mirrorless/FX3 type system is truly a pain for me and i never enjoyed it. i never had a rig i was happy with. the FX6 out of the box plus the tilta v-mount plate is ready to go for literally anything and it feels perfect (to me).
the ND is another thing that you wont see the beauty in until you have it. it sounds stupid and pretentious but its true. i truly hate having to use the screw on filters on my A7S these days. i use my FX6 whenever possible bc the variable ND with zero color shifting is an actual Godsend.
i wasn't planning on going this long with the reply lmao but i started thinking more as i wrote this. at the end of the day use whatever you are most efficient with and what you like using. i knew what i liked and didnt like about my setup and the FX6 answered most of the requests i had. it is a very badass workhorse of a camera that will run laps around literally anything else on the market as far as efficiency and all-around capability goes. i firmly believe that.
does anyone need it though? of course not. the A7S3/FX3 are still 2 of the best cameras on the market in their bracket, and you get the same image as the FX6. we are all winning lol
XavcL is only 8bit in 4k
yes, i mention this in detail at 5:07
I actualy used the fx6 with some g master primes and I loved the handling but the image quality was so bad. I shoot in 10bit slog and it was hard to get some of the highlights back in post. And the skin tone had a green tint.
that’s interesting! i’m always extremely happy with my image. i do agree that it’s hard to recover highlights sometimes. i feel like some other people i’ve seen with the FX6 get more dynamic range than i do, but i also know it’s most likely my fault and i just need to learn how to grade better. sony definitely has a green tint sometimes but it’s pretty easy to fix in post or in camera by shifting the tint.
Are you sure you was using an fx6 haha
@@FrazerLoveman No I lied. Why are you asking?
Because youre the only person who ive ever say the image quality out if an fx6 was bad. Generally the image is absolutely amazing
@@FrazerLoveman i didn’t say that you can not get amazing shots. But especially looking at the price I was disappointed. For example a LUMIX S5ii or Canon c70 look just better (in my opinion).
However bevor feeling offended because I talked about my experience of a camera (you might have not even touched yet), remember that the story always comes first!
So essentially you must record in all-intra to get 10-bit? That’s lame as hell.. may need to hold out for FX6-II, at hopefully 8K 60fps lol
yeah, its a big bummer, and it has caused me to still use my A7S over this camera a good bit in situations where i just can't be eating through so much data. it seems like it could be a simple firmware upgrade to add some of the codecs from A7S and FX3, but i doubt it'd ever happen.
one work-around i've found that can be a bit useful to save space: you can shoot in the smaller XAVC-L 8-bit codec and still use slog3 if you bake in a LUT to the output. i use Phantom LUTs mostly, so I'll bake in the Phantom Arri Neutral LUT to the footage. this way i can still shoot at ISO 12800 and get the low light benefits of slog3. you just cant get too aggressive with more color grading in post.
If you think the fx6 is intimidating try the fx9 and venice 😲😂
lol i believe it! those are steps that will come in time 🙌🏼 i’m enjoying the FX6 a ton now
Unless you shoot with it you really don't know if it's for you. After a few hours two years ago, I already knew it was the right move.
From last year...you NO LONGER need to bUy the Sony Fx6.... other sony bodies can get the job done...SAVE YOUR MONEY.
Depends on your projects requirements…
No one singular tool can do it all. The Sony alphas have their pros and cons as well.
i mentioned in the video that the FX6 may not be for some people. it’s a lot of camera and can definitely be overkill. but for certain film sets, you won’t be considered for them with an alpha camera. they’re great and i love my A7S to death, but upon moving to the FX6 and experiencing more of the professional features and ergonomics, i think it is a great decision. i do client work every week and have noticed a clear better experience since getting the FX6. also different tools for different jobs!