Gareth Southgate Will BLOW Our BEST EVER Chance of Winning a Major Trophy, Claims England Fan! 😰
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- Gareth Southgate's England beat Italy 3-1 last night to qualify for the 2024 Euros in Germany. talkSPORT's Sam Matterface, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy have their say alongside England fans.
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Bet the bloke in the middle wasn't expecting such a comprehensive answer from the caller😂
Nailed it!
He cooked! Absolutely spot-on.
💯
He was trying to trap him. But the man had 100% ball knowledge.
Paul absolutely nailed it on that last call!
That last caller went from a “generic England fan” to spitting complete facts when asked what our weaknesses are. I thought he was avoiding answering then booooom hit every nail on the head
He knows his bananas
Brilliant analysis by the last caller. This crop of England players are exceptionally talented. Unfortunately, not all are in the England squad. Southgate's pragmatic approach is so wasted on these players.
That last caller laid out everything wrong with Southgate and made it very clear why he is not the guy. Matterface arrogantly says well whats wrong and then gets runined by the caller. Italy are not a good team, they have failed to qualify for 2 world cups. In Europe England and France are the best squads now with Spain coming back but they have holes and a young side.
So arrogant at first then gets humbled within about 2 sentences. Great call and fair play!
He ate matterface alive there
That last caller was absolutely brilliant spot on on all his points summed it up perfectly
7:45 This was one of the best calls to Talksport ever. Couldnt' have agreed more.
JWP not being in the England squad is actually scandalous. Bang in form, playing regularly, dangerous from set pieces and has an amazing fitness/injury record. But then again, Southgate will never pick an entire squad based on form.
And England have been really poor at set pieces for a while. JWP would of been guaranteed goals for us. Coming from a west ham fan he's improved us massively.
@russellbonell JWP is such an underappreciated player and genuinely, I am surprised that West Ham were the only club to table serious bids for him in the summer. Your club definitely spent that Rice money wisely.
@@thewelshrocker101 yeah 100 percent, as soon as I saw we got JWP I was so happy because I thought our set pieces had been unusually poor for some time which Is what west ham usually rely on. He's done amazing and I was surprised aswell, not just his set pieces but they are just unreal, even every corner he takes are so dangerous. Didn't even go to a friendly against Australia!!! But yeah west ham have spent very well, it's shown that David Moyes really knows what he's doing.
He’s just Harry Winks with World class set piece ability. In open play he offers you nothing apart from being bang average. 🤦
@@insanity2968 had 10 games with 7 assists and 2 goals. I've watched all the games and you're speaking nonsense. He offers us plenty.
What a good call from that caller about Southgate not being good enough
oh yeah. If it weren't for GS we'd rule the world 😂😂😂 wht a wnka you really are
U need that as U are among people who dont know anything about the game
He should have gone in 2018 after failing against Croatia. We will never win anything with him in charge. Has always been a yes man, for the FA.
speculation, @@katetheclioandthefunandgam9168
@@katetheclioandthefunandgam9168 Absolute nonsense. At the time Croatia had a better squad than us. They had a midfield of Modric, Rakitic and Brozovic, while we had a midfield of Henderon, Alli and Lingard. I think people fail to remember how mid our team was when he took over.
Pauls call was spot on. Sam proper thinking he had him when he repeated 'what weaknesses? what frailties?
Paul then reels off loads ha ha 👍
Paul is absolutely spot on!....absolutely silenced Matterface too...which is always a bonus
Tactics are not everything. Look at Capello, Erkisson...weren't they meant to be that?
Southgate provided the team spirit and so much more that other managers lack. No manager has every trait. And his progress in tournaments has proved that.
Then you say "but he had easy draws". I can't remember many occasions since 1986 that I been watching, where England ever had really rough draws and we still didn't progress far!
I think we are still over rating the players. They are good, but not that good. The foreign players around them week by week make them look better than they are. Southgate has done well with a good team of players, but not a fantastic set of players (like we had in Euro 96 and 2006).
Can you get that last caller on as a pundit? He was unreal at summing things up
utd fan Paul is always the best caller, he's phoned 3 times and always nails it with epic rants
Only if United was like Paul :)
He's not wrong that fan, Southgate is tactically enept in major games in tournaments
Sometimes you let the players win the game for you. Hes not gonna grow into a tactician overnight so he might as well rely on talented players
@@nadeemamode like Maguire 😂😂😂😂
Southgate should come to you, in your minimum wage job, to learn about tactics?? Ok mate if you say so.
Next you’ll be saying England have always been a world force & previous managers masterminded them further into tournaments??
@@nadeemamode overnight? He's had 8 years you absolute weapon! 😂
England fans are tactically innept tbh, but unfortunately they have keypads.
England had the last 3-4 years of winning a sliver and probably the coming 3-4 players with the talents they have, my guy Southgate is making them play as Middlesbrough
Ey, don't bring us into this! I actually prefer watching the boro at times ...
Claims England fan? It's been common knowledge for 2.5 years ever since we lost to Italy at Euro 2020. Put Southgate in charge of Manchester City and they will win nothing.
Put Pep in charge of England and they'll fail.
You cant buy an international team you have to build one and i would bet most managers with access to the cash Man City has could win the EPL.
@dantheman9228 I disagree with that, star players join for the manager
@@jamesbong4928 nope star players join for the money
@@jamesbong4928yes I bet all the Man City superstars at the start joined because they were desperate to be coached by mark Hughes 🙄
That caller was absolutely spot on. Southgate has undeniably done a fantastic job off the field but he’s already blown our best chances of silverware ever with his selections and safety first approach and all the signs are there that he will only do it again.
Last caller naild it
Big up caller 'Paul'!!!
Great call!!!
Paul the caller, if you are reading this, well done for perfectly articulating what many of us see, but can’t quite put into words when on a national radio station 👏
Gareth will do all he can to avoid making important decisions at key moments, he will do all he can to pick out form or unfit players.
That is making important decisions. Caving in to punters pressure who are trying to pick the team, despite those punters being unemployable in football, is not making important decisions.
Southgate is his own man and is doing a very good job. If you want to select the side, become a coach, get a job in football, become the England manager then you can pick the side. Easy.
Want to know the difference between this England squad and previous English squads in major international tournaments well this time you have a team and not a bunch of individuals trying to be a team.
So go ahead sack the best manager you have had since 66 who has built you a team that can compete at the highest levels.
@dantheman9228 until we are 2-0 down in three 70th minute and he brings on henderson? 😆
@@dantheman9228until Southgate brings on defenders when 1-0 down to prevent a thrashing instead of trying to get the equalizer?
tired of these media people defending Southgate, the man should not be anywhere near the squad
Wow that last caller was on the money.
Great caller! Have him on again. Totally right. Playing 2 holders makes you defensive. Once we go ahead we retreat deeper and deeper. I’d rather see Rice, Belligham and Madison in a 3. Give it a go, see how it works
The clip with the last fan, Paul, should be replayed next summer if we don’t win the Euros. It’s so accurate it’s scary.
SM: He will be looking at the data game after game
DM: But Kalvin Phillips doesn't start every game
SM: But he will look over the "historical data"
DM: Data is irrelevant if you're not comparing it
SM: But he will look at certain strands of data
If Sam Matterface bends over anymore he'll brake his back
Why doesnt Sean Longstaff ever get even mentioned when talking about midfielders. He was exceptional last season and he seems to be adding goals to his game this season. He is also playing, he missed some games due to injury but he has been exceptional.
That last caller is right. Italy, Spain, Germany, Brazil will not be this bad for long. In another 2-4 years they will wake up from their slumber whilst England are at their best phase in history since 1966. Everything is in their favour now to win the Euro and World Cup. If they dont. You can wave good bye to winning any major trophy for the next 20 years.
Southgate has already reached his zenith. He improved the squad when he first took over, but is incapable of taking them to the next level.
The last caller got it spot on. With the state of the other big nations its now or never to get a trophy.
The last caller was absolutely spot on
That last caller was exceptional with his analysis.
I’ve watched England drop their bottle every tournament since 1970. Surprise me.
I've lost interest in England under Southgate. I can't bear to watch the most talented squad in my lifetime playing his limited, negative and cowardly football. All the fans booing Maguire and Henderson are not booing the players, but their selection, so it is really Southgate who they are angry with.
Watching England lose to Iceland and Costa Rica under hodgson was fine but Southgate is the problem?
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 ridiculous straw man argument
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986england didn’t lose to costa rica, and a 4-0 thrashing by hungary hurts more than the iceland loss
that lasr caller is the best call ive heard on talksport ever, he was absolutely spot on. Id get rid of southgate and bring in a more expansive type of play manager.
Southgate is the Handbrake on this squad of players and Matterface is a complete 🤡
Paul the voice and feelings of millions well done sir great insight
Well said Paul! 👍 Another golden generation wasted by the FA and the manager.
He builds the team to protect McGuire. Hence the need for two holding midfield players. A Championship manager working with world class players.
Paul the man utd fan was spitting absolute facts and completely killed any argument someone has to tell me Southgate is the right manager for England. Hes far too negative, has all the players to pick from but chooses his friends and like he said this is the moment where 99% of countries are poor but time and time we loose to them. Home crowd, 1-0 up vs Italy in final and we lost that alone is a sackable offence especially cus they lose to north macedonia
That caller knows ball, left them stunned 😂😂😂
He already blew it at Wembley at EUROS 2020
no he got you to your best result ever in the Euros and to the final of a major international tournament the first to do so since 66 even though you eejits have been thinking you deserve to win every tournament before a ball has been kicked since 66.
So it’s his fault when the players can’t get over the line, but then not his doing when we bag a decent result? Muppet😂😂
@@tghffghf54 so who picked those good players,created a formation and tactics to play teams with and dont try and tell me your players did as frankly i have seen them on the tv talking and they are not the brightest.
@@dantheman9228oh my life people keep banging on about this 😂 we’ve got some incredible individual talents who have managed to score goals despite being shackled. We had a home euros and went 1-0 up in the first minutes of the final. Gareth Southgate then watched us lose control of the game and soak up so much pressure and didn’t fancy making any changes and of course we conceded. Then somehow we let loads of teenagers take penalties in the shootout 🤦♂️ what on earth is the manager playing at to lose a game at the national stadium - a a manger from the non league has more tactical nouse.
Of course he does. Obviously. Think about what you are saying.
As an outsider, England's biggest issue is they'd rather pass backwards or sideways and not risk losing the ball, instead of risking a forward pass that could create a chance. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
It’s nothing new. He’s been blowing it since his appointment. 😂😂😂😂
What a great call on 8 mins...that guy was 100% correct
Last caller 100%! We gotta stop gloating when we beat low level teams as if we've toppled prime Brazil.. Gareth is not the guy! His stubbornness will lose us cups again and he'll be remembered for it mark my words.. the wally with the brolly is still spoken about..I worked security in a West end Show and when Maclaren walked in the majority of the crowd booed.. painful to watch.. and it will happen to Gareth if he refuses STILL to play those not in form.. pointless saying Maguire had a good game he didn't cut out the cross for the first goal it went straight through his legs and Stones must've seen and so when Italy had the same attack down the right moments later Stones came right across and cut out the same kind of cross that maguire should have..maguire doesn't sort his feet out when there's a rampage down his wing he's at 6s and 7s and easy to confuse.. Southgate out..maguire out.. Phillips good player but lacks form so out! What's Gareth gonna do when a player has his leg in cast through a training accident . Pick him anyway cause he trusts him! Such moronic logic!
Gut wrenching to see such quality in the squad and have such an out of depth manager
I agree and have been saying if for some time, ward-prowse should be playing next to Declan. He is the glue of the team. He can take up numerous spaces in phases in both attack and defence. In game formation change. The set pieces can be the difference between loosing and winning. I like the idea of a player who goes under the radar but works hard to allow others to shine. Like Calvin, except he has a super power of free kicks and positional versatility.
Dan Burn not being selected over Harry Maguire blows my mind! Ward-Prouse & Sterling should be in the England squad not Phillips, Henderson or Maguire. Southgate will be Englands down fall come tournament time. History is repeating itself as regards to player selection (favouritism over form) 🏟 ⚽️ 🏟 ⚽️
Henderson, Maguire and Philips next year in the summer lol We will not win anything. 4 tournaments and nothing! lol
We've already blown our best chance of winning a major trophy by losing to Italy in that final 2 years ago. The match was at Wembley too. It should have been ours on a plate......
Why is it obvious to 99.9% of football people and fans but not the manager that JWP & Dunk or Guehi start in front of Phillips & Mcguire?
This has been going on for soooo long now its boiling my piss with frustration
That caller was brilliant. So insightful. If England win Euro 24 it’s in spite of Gareth not because of him. Other powerhouse football nation’s teams are much weaker than in the past. England have fantastic footballers at the moment and will go deep into the tournament. Gareth is the weak link. But he can stay in charge as long as he wants.
Definitely mate. The only other team who is on our level on paper in Europe is France. This era is a golden opportunity to win something as this is one of the best England squads ever and other teams are massively weak compared to usual.
Tactics are not everything. Look at Capello, Erkisson...weren't they meant to be that?
Southgate provided the team spirit and so much more that other managers lack. No manager has every trait. And his progress in tournaments has proved that.
Then you say "but he had easy draws". I can't remember many occasions since 1986 that I been watching, where England ever had really rough draws and we still didn't progress far!
I think we are still over rating the players. They are good, but not that good. The foreign players around them week by week make them look better than they are. Southgate has done well with a good team of players, but not a fantastic set of players (like we had in Euro 96 and 2006).
JWP is Good enough to be an England starter, only Gutless ignores this fact. If he’d moved to United he’d be in every squad possibly starting!!
That caller should be manager of England 😅 knows his stuff!
That last call absolutely nailed it
Southgate is just letting his stubborness and ego take over. Tactically poor, not aggressive or dynamic. Amazing players but weak management. We are not feared by any team because the manager is a soft speaking politician. This team without Maquire and with a passionate, intelligent manager would be unstoppable
Maguire didn't play well at all. He stopped any pace we had dead in its tracks every time he had the ball. He literally stood still and passed back to keeper every time he had the ball, parring one time where he just hoofed it forward for an Italy goal kick
SOuthgate is now rather lucky to have 'guaranteed' goals with Kane, Rashford, Saka & Bellingham in the side - but still I do not see us winning anything when he play TWO defensive Midfielders every game - that makes a Back 7, effectively. He is not atttack-minded enough IMO.
Never watched a football match.
Yeah, they would have been better off appointing Mourinho, he would have definitely have won at least trophy.
BELLINGHAM IS A NO 8 NOT A NO10
Absolutely brilliant call from Paul. Also Simon absolutely right about Gareth that he manages like he played. Solid defender, no surprises but when he took his biggest risk as a player, the penalty for England it failed. Thus he will never take a risk in a big match (go for it) because fear consumes him. He's hit his ceiling as a manger for England and he has to go after we get knocked out of Euro 2024 which we will guaranteed unless the players as a team take the risks that Gareth won't (basically ignore his tactics in game)
Even a blind man can see it
that caller was spot on . the top teams have never been so weak .they will regroup .the depressing thing is germany will probably win something before england maybe even next year with home advantage . southgate will blow it again . for the reason simon jordan outlined the defenition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results . im actually amazed he dropped sterling though expect him to be back if scores a couple for chelsea .
And we should have won that final. He didn’t make the right decisions when it really mattered.
@@WaveForceful his caution transmitted to the team , it was there for the taking . someone tightly pointed out man city wouldnt win anything under gareth
He said it great, Kane is not growing on trees and than back to Crouch/Defoe level of striker the window is over. This is a great team
I agree with them with Southgate as manager this teams always playing at 60% potential at best.
Playing TAA in midfield as a 6 alongside Rice? Best passer and Southgate doesn’t trust him at right back anyway. Use his strengths then.
Southgate’s blind loyalty to Maguire, Phillips and Henderson is indicative of lack of killer instinct IMO.
Spot on caller who called out the weaknesses of this England team.
Bellingham is carrying this team and Southgate hasn’t got the best out of this team and never will!
THAT caller 👍👍👍👍👍👍
6:00 This caller is a legend. Cooked throughout the entire call! Straight facts. Gareth must go before the Euros otherwise England will lose it's greatest chance.
FACTS! Southgate will blow it.
I'd argue he already has.
@@troyhewson7907 why would I want him to blow it? That makes zero sense 🤣
Gareth Southgate's ideas of selections varies from Jude Bellingham and Harry Kane playing for top teams in Europe to Jordan Henderson playing in a League One standard team, Maguire and Phillips warming benches. The man is out of his depth.
Once in a generation team and a Vauxhall Conference manager.
What about the "golden generation", Sven, Capello (skipping mclaren, obviously).
France, Spain and Portugal - if we meet them after group stages - we go out with Southgate. Simple as that
Always miss the Southgate problems hes a virtue signaller lost final because of it puts that before team
Media genuinely think England beat a quality Italian team. It was an inexperienced side with 4 of its starting line up missing and they still caused England's defence problems. Game stats are quite even. England look weak at the back and when faced with the whole team defending looked out of ideas. Its an amazing squad full of superstars with a manager that doesn't know how to get the best out of them and still yet to beat any top International team.
Tactics are not everything. Look at Capello, Erkisson...weren't they meant to be that?
Southgate provided the team spirit and so much more that other managers lack. No manager has every trait. And his progress in tournaments has proved that.
Then you say "but he had easy draws". I can't remember many occasions since 1986 that I been watching, where England ever had really rough draws and we still didn't progress far!
I think we are still over rating the players. They are good, but not that good. The foreign players around them week by week make them look better than they are. Southgate has done well with a good team of players, but not a fantastic set of players (like we had in Euro 96 and 2006).
If Southgate was a boxer, he'd always try and win on points.
He wont stand toe-to-toe with you and have a fight.
If he gets a lucky punch in, he quickly covers up and tries to ride the fight out.
Like ksi lol
Southgate will NEVER beat a team he shouldn't beat; he gets to where England should be, commensurate with their FIFA standing, but HE doesn't have what it takes to beat a France or an Argentina. Under him we will get to a tournament, get out of the group and reach the quarters/semis - or even the odd final - but WON'T WIN ANYTHING.
He should have been replaced after the last World Cup...and that's on the cr4ppy English FA: they'd rather a yes man, who looks/speaks good/well than a winner.
Have to Paul’s call was spot on! Couldn’t agree more with the guy - sensible and matter of fact and in many ways stating the obvious which we all have see for so long now!
This goes back to a topic on another manager discussed on here earlier, Moyes. If you are not brave enough in employing the tactics and formations in a team with decent attacking ability and dont try to kill the game off against top opposition and sit back keeping games tight or defending narrow leads then you will inevitably become a cropper. Great teams win tournaments because their managers have the belief their attacking philosophy will ultimately lead them to glory. You need ro be nasty and ruthless when you play teams in latter stages of tournament football and England under Southgate simply do not have this trait. The FA should move heaven and earth in trying to land Eddie Howe. He's young, dynamic, knows how to make positive changes and effectually change systems inplay. Southgates a nice guy and we all know what they say about nice guys!
Same team since 2021 Southgate luvs his favourites
Foden, Grealish, JWP, Maddison on the bench! Each a beast. Instead it's Maguire and Phillips. With Henderson in squad to develop Jude. What! He doubles up as a psychologist does he? It's embarrassing.
Walker, White, Stones, Shaw is supposed to be the best back four in international football. Declan Rice, Bellingham and Mount is supposed to be the best Midfield trio in international football. Saka, Kane, Rashford/Grealish/Sterling should be a front 3 winning you any tournament currently but Southgate has his paranoid tendencies kicking in while picking his team. England is at the strongest level they have ever been. They just don’t have a good tactician in charge of the team.
Great call from the last caller . Spot on💯👌🏾🤣🤷🏾♂️
What a brilliant call on 5.38 minutes!
So many football experts who have never taken any team to any final or semi's finals. Interesting.
Lol is Sam Matterface the bodyguard of Southgate? Never seen someone protect him as much.
That last caller was class 😂😂😂
This is the team Southgate needs to pick as 1st choice (with backup options):
Gk: Pickford/Ramsdale
Rb: Walker/Trippier
Cb: Stones/Tomori
Cb: Dunk/Maguire
Lb: Trippier/Chilwell
Cdm: Rice/Henderson
Cm: Ward-Prowse/Alexander-Arnold
Cam: Bellingham/Maddison
Lw: Rashford/Grealish
Cf: Kane/Toney
Rw: Saka/Foden
Couldnt agree more with paul the caller, bang on the button
France were pretty much everyone's favourites to win the last world cup, we go out to them and everyone's up in arms about it. There are definitely issues with selections atm but we've qualified so its job done for now.
Favourites? by what measure?
No one was up in arms about it.
Not an England fan but that last point that Paul made about this being their best opportunity to win silverware really hit home. If England beat France in that WC QF last year, they probably go on to win it. Argentina you could argue aren't as good as France, or even Portugal or England. But they're more than the sum of their parts and were led by a determined Messi which I think ultimately got them over the line. England have the drop on most sides cause the depth they have is insane. Enough with the Maguire and Phillips nonsense. Get Tomori/Dunk and Ward-Prowse/Loftus Cheek into that setup and you'll see more resounding England performances against top opposition when it matters.
That last caller silenced that guy in the middle fast
The last caller had some good points, however Southgate does have a stick or twist conundrum in a few areas! There’s risk associated with both. You throw two or three good yet inexperienced players internationally into an established set up and it could upset the whole balance, however sticking with tried and tested all be it with players who are struggling for game time at their clubs gives you continuity with the systems you’ve already implemented.
It take considerable bravery to rip it up while results are favourable! However to get over those final hurdles and bring home a trophy will absolutely require some decisive a ruthless calls. The question is does Southgate have that in him?
Some excellent points raised by the callers. On paper the England squad should reach the semi's or even the final but cautious Southgate will no doubt ruin our chances once again. He is our weak link.
Last caller nails it especially about the defence and picking two midfield players who can’t take the ball on the half turn. Maddison is our best player at this but Gareth won’t pick him when it matters. When it comes to the crux the same mistakes will be made with the same results.
So our “best 11” includes Maguire and Phillips who can’t get into their club sides, Stones who is class but not played this season due to injury, and a right back playing left back. Doesn’t take a genius to see that we could have put out a stronger side.
Imagine how much you would be CRYING if Maguire had played badly and we had lost to Italy
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot not crying mate, just questioning why he would not pick players fit and playing for their clubs as first choice.
@@johnfarnborough6424 Please continue to cry in public and don't stop imagining that I am your mate. That's adorable!
If you can’t add anything sensible to the conversation, butt out
@@johnfarnborough6424 Lol. My innocuous words upset your feelings and you now want me to stop talking in public. Hilarious
John just said what every football fan on the planet is thinking. Do u know who is fast Ben White that's who him and Stones would be good with Walker next to them and Rice ahead they would be fine .
Southgate is a coward. Two golden chances for tournament success and he blew both due to his acceptance of 2nd or 3rd is success. It isn't. 1st place is the only success in football. Lack of in-game management, constant selection of the wrong players, lacklustre substitutions and over reliance on 'moments' from a crop of arguably the most talented players we've had in decades. The complete void of a killer instinct will be England's downfall again - SF / final loss after a run of set-piece goals, playing 6 at the back against a team ranked 100th in the world, a close game against a bang average team in the QFs and a nation taken for a ride for the 3rd time in 6 years. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Southgate and any supporters of the man are insane.
To be fair En-ger-land fans are clueless but unfortunately have keypads
With our squad we should be like Spain were in their hayday, but we won't be because of Southgate and it is so effing annoying.
As mentioned - Italy 🇮🇹 never been as weak! Name an Italian superstar? Dutch? There are none.
You can't try it once matterface? With two players who might not start the caller said JWP and Bellingham with Rice
Without Englands talent I cant see Southgate winning anything. You saw it against Australia, a good team vs a team of individuals. I do think the English first team would also win, but honestly, outside of the scoreline England were played off the pitch. It tells me that 2-3 injuries to the English lined up, like Bellingham or Kane, England drop way down the pecking order.
Spot on. He wasting this generation and best chance of winning a trophy. Haven’t learnt from 2018, 2021 and 2022 yet because he’s a suit the FA love him