2017 Personality 08: Carl Jung and the Lion King (Part 2)
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- In this lecture, I finish my analysis of Disney's Lion King, which provides a dramatic representation of many of the archetypes identified and analyzed by Dr. Carl Gustav Jung, student of Nietzsche and Freud, and originator of analytical psychology.
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Talk about simbalism...
darn it
Got em
Symbol in my dictionary
simba is the name of the lion in that movie
Excellent.
Thank you Jordan for putting your lectures online for free. As someone who didn't go to Uni I find your lessons invaluable.
As someone who did go to university, you made the right decision. Most university lecture are not this good. Not even close.
@@makebritaingreatagain2613 I second that!
I third this! Simply amazing, have been writing down the reading suggestions as well. I
great lecture ......much knowledge and information
@@makebritaingreatagain2613 So True
“What’s her name again?” “Nala!” “That’s right, Mala”
JBP getting their names wrong is adorable and hilarious at the same time.
Nancy Isaac in part one he calls “mufasa” musafa.
The fact that he is so incredible intelligent makes it even funnier.
I think it's funny and humanizing that he can teach on a topic that he knows the symbolism behind it but he also doesnt remember the finer details..... like names lol
I thought maybe he was flubbing the names on purpose to keep peoples minds engaged. Although the material is engaging enough I had that as a hunch.
I Am Loving Awareness personally I find it more distracting than I do more engaging
"Each of us is becoming a micro-celebrity surrounded by electronic sycophants..."
This is such a meta statement, it needs it's own lecture to explore.
Look no further: czcams.com/video/L6Wx_1daQJM/video.html
Talk about well spoken 😅
I had to pause after he said that so I could remember how stupid I am for not realizing this myself! Then I prayed that one day I’m half as smart as him
"Electronic syphocants"....scary, eh?
Sir, allow me to shower you with the finest electronic accolades and virtual commendations. 👍
Just leaving a few notes for myself...
2:19 PTSD
3:53 How much will you maintain your stability and how much will you explore? Unwise exploration. Openness + neuroticism.
4:44 Personality and political belief. How open borders should be... Openness vs Conscientiousness
7:33 (Cambridge Analytic) Big 5 + Marketing + AI
We're only wiling to hear what we want to hear. We cut ourselves off from feedback. We become stagnant, lose competence and confidence. You must dialogue with people you disagree with... they're the only ones who are going to tell you what you need to hear.
10:10 [GOLD] Using fantasy to organize your world... What artists do... They are on the perimeter of knowledge structures, extending the domain of human knowledge, that's where open people live.
14:49 Big 5 traits as different kinds of adaptations to different types of niches... Playoff / Balance between Plasticity and Stability.
15:49 (Columbine) Human darkness... think people have good intentions? You're probably high in agreeableness ;)
19:52 [GOLD] Encountering something that you don't understand (pure malevolence). It won't let you go until you figure it out. Memories more than 18 months old, with negative emotion still there, that's a mini PTSD [GOLD]
"People are basically good." Then you encounter someone who is not good...
Writing to sort out your past...
29:38 Failure in trying to learn new things, a perfectionist won't try new things, a bad first draft is necessary...
49:17 What are the factors that encourage turning into a tyranny? One is the wise part is not paying enough attention to the malevolent part. This is true at the personal level.
1:12:43 When a person wants to change....
1:30:49 [GOLD] Shadow and Persona...
54:10 Meerkats are very cool things.
@@philopoemen6659 While I have my own notes, you're notes help me find other nuggets that can be helpful to me, that I miss. Thanks for sharing yours.
Thanks for sharing these notes, nice recap
Marker
Thanks Mat C. Valuable points I noted mentally- this is helpful to return to. A great lecture!
"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe."
A wise person once said "you can find infinite, in finite if you truly look into it."
Who said this?
Nicola Morales quote from superman. Lex Luthor said that particular line
Confusius once said:
make a man a fire, and he will be warm for one day,
put the man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life :)
William Blake also expressed the same idea nicely in what is my favourite poem,
“To see a world in a grain of sand
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand
And eternity in an hour"
The reason you remember the past isn't to make an objectively accurate record of the past, it's so that you can use the information in the past to prepare you for the future.
That one made me cry man
I'm just totally floored how anyone could say anything bad about Jordan Peterson. He's just an honest, intelligent person trying to make sense of the world and pass on what he learns to all of us.
Well he tells the truth. I was watching a Tim Dillon clip hes a comedian if you didnt know, I was watching a clip of him say something like, or along the lines of, why am I not as famous as Joe Rogan I say insane things make jokes about sandy hook, I might be completely wrong about what he said entirley btw, but the idea is the same Tim jokes and says insane things right so how could Joe, an honest man, be more contriversial than someone whos literally using their creativity to on purpose try to say the most contriversial thing by on purpose saying terrible things? The answer seems to be to be because he tells the truth, same with Jordan.
@@smartbart80 You should stop telling random people what to do on the internet.
True
Malevolent people will always exist to be resentful and hateful toward honest good people like Jordan.
"An archetype is a meme, but it's a very, very, very DANK meme"
The dankest of memes, roughly speaking. It's something like that.
bloody amazing!
ROUGHLY SPEAKING
Fair enough
if (archetypes are memes) then (4chan is the collective consciousness of humanity)
The fact that one can watch these great lectures for free is something to be grateful for
This is the most dense and mindblowing lecture I've ever heard. Unlike my old college professors, Peterson's tangents add so much to the conversation.
I once had a professor that went off on a tangent about her dad, having diabetes and going out to get the mail one day, and basically burning off the bottoms of his feet because he couldn’t feel them :(
I love how he dives deep and seems to drift but ties down his points back to Lion King. Absolute genius and reincarnation of the Big Masters.
"you have to be a fool if you want to learn anything new". Hearing it phrased that way just changed my life I think.
Strung Up Same here. My tendency toward perfectionism (and fear of appearing foolish) is actually detracting from my ability to improve and progress in life. Major lightbulb moment for me.
Makes sense! How would you possibly learn anything if you think you already know it all ;)
This statement opened my eyes too. I haven’t worked in a 2-3 years because I don’t want to be the “newbie” who looks like an idiot. It really hit home for me when he said it’s even more foolish to do nothing at all for the sake of security. I felt secure in doing nothing because although I felt unsatisfied with life I at least felt “safe” in my solitude. Only to realize it’s not safety, it’s complicity. Like simba when he claimed that having no responsibilities leads to a care free life, when in reality it just makes you look like a lazy pos. Time to utilize the talents I have in a manner that can make me money. I dropped out of college because no matter what class I took, the topic was Trump. It didn’t matter which class it was. Modern day academia is definitely in fact indoctrination and i didn’t have to look very hard to notice that. I had a philosophy teacher talking about “shadow governments” and “Steve Bannon” on day ONE. Same goes for my english professor who spent most of the time “joking” about our “first orange president”. I thought night classes would be different but they weren’t. We had outspoken liberal students encouraging our openly gay teacher into politicizing a health and addiction course. Anybody who asked if he could stay on topic would get scorned. Moral of the story is, I felt defeated after dropping out of college, but now knowing that Peterson is lighting the road to success, I feel more ambitious and content. I saw him live in Rochester in September and it was an incredible learning experience.
Thank you to whoever took the time to read this.
@@godemperorpepe Thank you, for sharing, my dude. Slay that dragon :)
I remember I wanted to learn to do so called aggressive rollerblading - jump of stairs, go down on rails, etc., the problem was I didn't even know how to avoid falling after putting on my new rollerblades. I was 13 and I was sooooo afraid I'm inevitably going to make a fool of myself if I go out with my rollerblades on, because I saw younger kids doing it already.. I believed I'm so old I should've already learn it years ago, I felt like... a fool. Those were paralyzing thoughts to me, today I can't believe I used to think like that as a kid.
First! These lectures are the best thing to happen on youtube in quite some time.
Thank you Professor Peterson.
They have saved my life.
and continue to do so
Let's not get too carried away now.
Fairy tales, fables, Shakespeare & ancient Greek tragedies give us archetypes in narrative form, or 'narrativium'. wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Narrativium
This Jungian critique of the Lion King does fit nicely in with these other things I've been thinking about, but then it did pop up on my recommended list; CZcams knows what I like.
8:07 "...an electronic world where you will only see what you want to see..."
Not a bad thing, these ideas add to my vocabulary,
but not so much "life saving" (for me).
More like stumbling around in the dark
encountering malevolence
but wondering
"What have I got in my pocket?"
As it were.
differous01 What the fuck are you talking about?
He pretends to not know certain facts from the Lion King in order make his class participate (by helping "jog" his memory) as well as to make sure they're actively listening to his lecture...the man is a genius.
Notice that he always receives applause from the class. I have a master's degree, but I do not recall that any class I was ever part of would applaud a professor for the material he just completed teaching. As a matter of fact, we were all kind of glad the class was over. Granted I went to CSUN, not Harvard, but still... I find this admirable.
Maybe you're not him
This is truly amazing. I am not exaggerating when I say this, but Dr. Peterson, your lectures are changing my life in an unprecedented way. Please don't EVER stop posting.
Psychedelic Football
I know exactly what you mean!
I have realized how much I really don't know! Lol!
How have you changed ?
Unfortunately this comment hasnt aged well :(
@@ez_company9325 what why? What happened? Did something happened to this dude? or Peterson stopped posting?
@@sandhya797 hi
I get a free lecture, from one of the best teachers in the world. I am sorry, but traditional higher education BA degree does not seem as attractive for 100k of debt in the US.
CZcams needs to start providing tests and diplomas. Soon we'll have CZcams doctorates instead of just CZcams indoctrination!
Oh! God no! no! that will lead to a cult of know-it-alls. At least university students pay with their own blood for their horrible attitude.
+Rince wind .. Not exactly. Most student loans are subsidized by the gov't, and they don't get repaid. Then we all end up paying for it through taxes. That's how it has gotten so expensive (and worthless).
i think they pay with their blood, along with their culture's blood. They come out of school in their 20's, with massive loans. This minimizes their ability to take more risk, start businesses, travel the world and gain some perspective or do charity work. All things are difficult with a large student debt looming over one's head.
Back Health 101 i see
Dhr. Peterson.
It has been 25 years since ive watched the lion king. Just watched it with my six year old daughter. Kind of talked her Through it after watching this lecture.
Thank u for posting your work.
I hope your wife gets well soon.
Mom: how was your school today?
I: we were watching Lion King with Jordan B. Peterson. And it was FANTASTIC.
Can you imagine the society we would have if more college professors were like Dr. Peterson? I wish I would have met this man 15 years ago. Thank you for what you're doing.
As usual, I came across a couple of big realizations watching this. Cried twice.
u look mad good ma
Adelle Ramcharan 1:31:00 was a good one for me.
You are high in neuroticism. :) And because you listen JBP, you are knowledgeable enough to know this is not an insult, just a data point, unlike the google SJW zombies. So am I, even if a man
Can I ask what they were?
This comment revealed to me another positive aspect of having higher neuroticism. -Revelations and realizations have more power and "kick" to them, allowing such realizations to potentially have a larger impact in a beneficial way long term. This may also be the reason why self-realizations while on LSD or most psychedelics are generally more powerful than the same realizations while not on such drugs. Thank you for your comment, your realizations allowed me to have more of my own.
Peterson is just the most amazing and intelligent person I know of. I have been listening to him all the time for over a year now and read both his books and still everytime I listen to a lecture of his I learn so much more than I would learn in any other lecture. He has changed my life in a way I can't describe to anyone who hasn't heard anything of him.
If Jordan wrote an epic like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, it would be a massive hit.
Omg seriously!!!
He actually did write both of those, it's a little known fact
I don't see it happening. Apparently, he rewrote every sentence in his first book fifty times. Not fifteen times. 50 times.
You can't write something with the length of J.R.R.Tolkein's _The Lord of the Rings_ if you rewrite the sentences that much.
What is more possible is if he collaborated with a Hollywood screenwriter to make something with Jungian / Campbellian archetypes.
Hearing all of this conversation about conscientiousness vs. openness makes me wonder if parents who are very high in conscientiousness (to an unhealthy level) can traumatize a child who is of a more open nature. Especially when the child feels the parent's disgust towards what the parent feels is a weakness in the child. Both of my parents are VERY conscientious and I definitely remember as a child feeling that disgust Dr. Peterson talks about directed towards me. I have struggled with low self-esteem and depression since I was a teenager. Thank you Dr. Peterson; that part of the lecture put a lot of things into perspective for me.
ladynottingham89 read "The Drama of the Gifted Child" by Alice Miller
I can so relate
High Conscientiousness is VERY different, unlike, and NOT High Consciouness. TY for your share.
🙋🏽♂️
1:18:37 "Get out of my way, cause things are gonna happen around me."
Like a boss
Introverts are DEFINITELY attuned to nature. My husband is the biggest introvert I've ever met and he goes to nature whenever he needs to de-stress, it's his peace and energy. Mine is definitely duty and effort. I never thought about it that way before though.
SPOILER: Jordan B Peterson is Rafiki.
Lol!
Bloody accurate.
Starts off as a joke; then he’s a mentor; but plot twist; he’s all of us.
That's actually true! He is the universal human self, helping us develop
nono, he says it is carl jung :D
I feel as if islands of unconscious wisdom are coming together inside me through bridges of articulated knowledge.
Thank you, Jordan B. Peterson, for all you have shared.
Man I needed to see this 20 years ago! better late than never! He is a genius (yes projecting the wizard archetype on him)
9:35 "One of the worst situations that can happen, is that you find yourself in a situation where noone is offering you corrective feedback anymore."
Thank you not, for reminding me that I have almost noone in my life and not having had anyone in my early life, who offered me corrective feedback or atleast encouraging words.
Then again thank you for reminding me how very grateful I am for my therapist and the therapists I had in the last 4 years who talked with me honestly and helped me immensely in getting my life back on track.
You can consider yourself a part of that list, Doctor Peterson.
What a terrific introspective outlook. Keep up the good work. You're closer to being a better you than you were yesterday and I'm proud of you.
24:22. “The reason you remember the past isn’t to make an objectively accurate record of the past - it is so that you can use the information in the past to prepare you for the future.”
This is some top draw stuff! Bravo!
14:30 Dear Prof Peterson, take this with however many grains of salt you think necessary but as an introverted person high in trait openness I certainly find myself more at ease in nature than I do amongst people. I'm quite happy to go on long hikes and runs completely alone so long as I'm in an interesting and remote natural setting. Too many other people ruins the effect and I'll find somewhere else to go.
I'm similar and I wonder if it's an explorer mentality. Imagine we go out, make discoveries, bring knowledge of them back, and that's our historical niche.
I believe intro's like myself are social too but have our own borders between us and other humans. I would even go so far to say that nature (living things that aren't humans), roughly, is the spiritual pursuit of a relationship that consists of unconditional love.
Basically that we prefer the presence of living things that don't have a "conscious" free will, as they are entirely driven by their innate drives (id) which we might be able to relate to on a level. Maybe a background with separated parents could be a factor, or even the minor social anxiety I "suffer" from .. being too self-conscious makes me think alot about the thought of being watched (judged) by other people.
Anyone else who tries to avoid as many people as possible? Negative thoughts about strangers are primordial and instinctive when I am out and about. Sometimes I find myself with a mean grin because of these weird thoughts looking all angry.. I am insecure and there is nothing more important in this world than not embarrassing yourself in public.
Sean Holt me too Also I'm home almost 24/7 reading, learning, practicing jazz/baroque improvisation, vegetable gardening, trying to understand humanity, etc :)
Might be the case, but what I observe in myself is something along the lines of... social environments where you need to be cautious. Like some sort of colonies, small social groups, that go out into chaos. Or maybe we're just more adapted to states of conflict than peace.
This might seem like a bit of a reach, but I think being amongst large groups may be more exhausting because of a tendency towards caution or a more alert state (for example, I usually have a hard time maintaining focus, bit of an ADD case, but I always pay attention to what people are doing around me, who's on what terms with whom and how they react to all kinds of "insignificant" stimuli.) I'd even go so far as to say my interest for psychology probably stems from the fact that since a very young age, people have been my "dragons" so to speak. That could also explain the affinity for nature amongst many, since it's not as bad compared to more social environments as it may be for others.
I see where you coming from, I can relate.
this is helping me out of the underworld
Lisa Cartwheel me too
You out? Im there now💪👌
I need to get in :(
Jordan Peterson is fixing my life! Omg this is strange! I feel different and I'm crying while saying this!
The Lion King has always been my favorite movie of all time. I’d argue it’s one of the greatest animated films, EVER. Dr. Peterson has made me fall in love with that movie even more. So glad I decided to stop my Saturday night to watch this.
Next I’m gonna tackle the Pinocchio series.
These lectures brought a lot of ideas together in my mind that I’ve been trying to understand for awhile. Beautiful.
Peterson had Cambridge Analytics pegged 13 months earlier than the rest of us. Lol of course he did
benefits of being at the top of that dominance hierarchy
Now go back and listen to what he says at 35:00 - I about fell outta my chair!!!
@@sarahbenedict5482 I read your comment as soon as 35:00 came on. Synchronicity
I was totally floored when I realised what this meant. I also immediately searched for a comment like yours because I know there are always such keen listeners on youtube.
Best movie analysis of all time.
JBP has been on Joe Rogan podcast many times. Absolutely fantastic interviews .
The first time I heard JBP on JRE I ended up spending over $100-150 a month on books for the next two years trying to play catch-up with all of the fascinating ideas he brought to the table in those interviews, after having never picked up more than 3 or 4 books in the 10+ years preceding that. I wish any of my teachers in grade-school were as catalyzing as this man.
If we ever meet aliens Dr. Peterson should be the spokesperson on behalf of mankind.
Lol. Was sorta thinkin the same thing myself
Naddino yes! That is his purpose, I can foresee it lol
Brilliant idea !
It also helps that, as he said in one of his interview, he truly believes in humanity and the good it is capable. I think you're totally right.
He's pretty close to Lacerta, the reptilian ambassador to humans, although in their culture, she's not a historian or psychologist, more of zoologist: czcams.com/video/wjaIq3fuJg8/video.html
YES!!! Realizing that there is malevolence in the world and that sometimes it is aimed at me helped me totally overcome my neuroses, not sure if it was PTSD but it was definitely the key to my healing! Thanks Professor Peterson for confirming my insight :)
This talk changed me. I've never been moved by anyone so dramatically. I cried after gaining the vision of seeing the parts of myself i didn't want to see. I immediately reached out with someone I wanted to repair a relationship with... And there are couple more to go. Thank you Jordan
Watching this lecture the second time after some years is even more valuable than the first time. I'm able to fill some gaps here. Thank you JP!
This man is a legend, kind of envious of the students
free gold here goddammit!
im alive in the right place @ the right time
I've always been an introvert and I've always lived out in the country. I think Peterson is right about being adapted to Nature. When I'm alone in the woods my awareness is Amplified, which I imagine happens to everyone, fear and doubt fall off dramatically. I've had several unexpected encounters with apex predators, in the wild, alone. There was no doubt or hesitation in my actions and the fear only came after the event was over. Cats are by far the spookiest. Being stalked by a cat makes you afraid and anxious, I don't care who you are.
Amazing how this lecture made me identify and accept my shortcomings.
Strongly highlighted his point on agreeing people's who don't want to accept that they can do harm and they have to accept their darkness in order to walk towards light.
no tree it is said can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell -- Carl Jung
Thanks Dad. I was waiting for this.
Yeah, Dr Peterson is quite a father figure for a lot of people following him for a time, so... this comment isn't that awkward.
My dog used to piss on the floor when my father visited. I decided that it was his stern facial expression that made professor Wagglesworth piss himself, and that father had the responsibility to clean up the mess.
+Wooden Iron makes sense, listening to him for an hour has been more of a benefit than a whole childhood with my father.
Sadly a common occurrence. Let's become better dads!
aBRMN i wish jordy p was my dad.
Thank you for putting these lectures online for free. It's helped me as I can't afford a decent psychologist.
0x29a amen
Jordan Peterson you changed my life. Ever since I was a kid I wanted to be a gangster and then I became one and everything terrible that can happen did happen to me. I got stabbed up and locked up. Became Drug addicted aswell. Then I saw your CZcams videos. One similar to this one and then I watched another and another and another. Then I bought your book and went to rehab. It’s been a year since I’ve drank or done hard drugs. Last year my father had to perform the last rights on me because I was in a coma dying from a fentanyl overdose. I was living a life that was certainly going to kill me. Without a doubt. I was an angry young man. Bitter and sad because I did have it bad. But I decided to change. I decided to clean up my room and stand up straight. Look people in the eye. I’m starting to keep the promises I make to myself and In September I’m going back to College to try again. Jordan Peterson you saved my life with just a few encouraging words. Than you. 🇨🇦
Someday people will talk about "The Jordan Peterson Lectures on Psychology" the same way we see the Feynman Lectures on Physics today
☝🏻☝🏻
idk if you can compare them but Peterson is no doubt influential
Does anybody else here also like the lectures of Sapolsky? Who else is worth watching to? I am deeply interested in all this stuff...this mix of evolution, biology, psychology, religion, humanity...Jordan Peterson does a great job!
You should check out Daniel Bonevac. He is a professor in philosophy who posts his lectures on YT. He is a very good lecturer.
You are very high in trait openness
Sapolsky is good.
Liked most the limbicsystem explanation.
The moment when you understand that you'r just a dopey friend.
Good. Awareness is the first step for self development.
It's nice to know the dopey friend is a cat. 感謝日貓！
Luckily the thing about Dopey Friends is that as is shown in Lion King, those Dopey Friends can grow up and decide to be part of something bigger than themselves as well. As is shown at the end where Timon and Pumbaa are on Pride Rock with Simba
@@johnmartin4119Bars
I love this so much. These archetypal interpretations of all these stories I heard or saw growing up (including the ones in the Bible) are so exciting. It's like seeing something with brand new eyes.
The closing segment is sublimely insightful.
those gaps in your life that you talked about, which i call cringe moments, was something that i really connected with, and thinking about them when they popped up in my head randomly, and resolving them instead of just cringing really helped me
How do you resolve them instead of cringe? Like I’ll think of something that I did and it will make me cringe. So what should I do instead, just not cringe and accept it? Seems easier said then done?
@@Heroglyphics if you have a choice, and you choose option a, which resulted in you cringing. Maybe it would have led to a better solution, which would help resolve that issue in your mind, or you might see it leading to a worse outcome, in which case, you no longer have to deal with that what if scenario. Cringe moments popping up repeated, in my opinion, are due to unresolved issues, like a dentist calling every year to see if you wanna go in for a check up.
I remember watching this, specifically the portion between 1:30:50 and 1:36:35 at a pivotal moment in my life. It changed the entire way I dealt with people. Others began to see me as an asshole since I started setting limits explicitly and stopped being needlessly nice, and in return I was far less resentful of everyone around me. It's difficult to describe how self-actualized I became as a result of these six minutes. Absolutely life-changing.
Truly remarkable dialogue.
Jordan has diametrically changed my life through these lectures. As a young Africa youth who could not afford university tuition, I have gotten more knowledge. I use this knowledge in the mentorship programs that I run monthly to help under privileged youth with a similar background like mine have better understanding of themselves and life. Thank you so much Jordan
Easily my favorite lecture yet. It's really interesting going through a movie like the lion king by frames; it gives people a chance to admire the artists who made that film. It really is amazing.
I'm happy to see you're nearing multiple universities worth of subscribers!
This speech is so important and predictive to what has occurred 3 years later on a global scale.
1:36:56 “If [Dawkins] would have kept thinking he would have turned into Carl Jung” 😂😂😂
Exactly! It got me, too! 😂
Dear Doctor Peterson,
Thanks again.
Sincerely,
Simba
I've been reading Jung lately and working on understanding what he viewed "archetypes" to be. I've formulated the following working definition and welcome thoughts, challenges, or suggestions for how it could be improved.
"Archetypes are profound psychological, behavioural, and developmental patterns, active in primitive and unconscious levels of our collective psyche, which are creatively represented across the stories and symbols of humankind's great literary and religious heritages."
Jordan peterson saved my life
Words cannot describe how much I enjoy and appreciate Jordan B Petersons and his lectures. I love this man so much, I just want to listen to him forever.
Can't wait to hear the lecture about The Lion King 2.
lol and women wanna be considered equal to us. Well they are.
Allen Ellsworth
Lion King 2 Never happened. No one seriously considers it a true successor.
BdDaBomb Someone missed the sarcasm?
Lay 800 bricks in a day, then do the same the next day. Women are equal, bollox.
I just mean they have equal rights if not some extra.
Man, this is such a good reminder of what Disney lost after the 90s in their movies. They had heart and soul but more than that they had deeply philosophical ideas in them.
This man out here helping the adolescence transition into adulthood. Well done👏
My dude was already on Cambridge Analytics.
dude at 00:59 sec always late to class lol
Soren ROYER-MCHUGH I thought no one was gonna comment on that, last lecture he was almost 15 minutes late xD
Why would you ever be late to lecture of this calibre???
Bucko needs to sort himself out!
Him and that girl with him, late for a lecture from this giant. Tells you a lot about their character, or lack thereof...
I noticed the same thing
I love these lectures so much, I am just saying that I would struggle on the best way to take notes if I were a student in these classes, love ya Dr. Peterson
I've always gotten so deep into the stories of good movies. I always notice how it relates to real life, and see the deeper meanings in them. Especially the battle between good an evil (hero vs antagonist) and how it corresponds to our real lives. I didn't know other people did this to the extent of how deep I go into it. Especially someone has brilliant as yourself. Posting your lectures on CZcams is truly an amazing thing you're doing and I couldn't adequately express my gratitude for it.
rewatching and that moment when he talks about cambridge analytica EYES WIDE
I have a feeling that he pretends not to know names of Timon or Pumba, or Hakuna Matata just so he can show he is old dude that remembers hard. He knows them by heart. I am sure of it.
I get the same impression. "What's his name?" "Ah Mufasa"
Hell, I do this when referencing movies I saw as a kid, and I'm in my 20s. I did the same thing once talking to a 10 year old about Pokemon.
I think it fulfills a number of different purposes. Not necessarily all at once, but depending on the context.
1) It puts on a mask to maybe more adequately convey your level of interest in the subject. Sometimes it's literally a movie I haven't seen in 2 decades. but my memory towards movies tends to be abnormally good, so if I rattle off all the names like they're nothing it'll seem more like I just recently watched it, or I'm obsessed with it, which aren't true.
2) It downplays the importance of the specifics and generalizes it. Talking about everything about a particular subject, without actually recalling the specific subject, connects it with all the other possible things that share its nature. If I talk for 10 minutes about "that wizard from Lord of the Rings" without knowing his name... then I'm not exactly talking about Gandalf in isolation. I'm clearly thinking about all wizardly characters, and how the archetypal wizard character acted here. If I'm really dramatic and call him Dumbledore by mistake (or by 'mistake') that kind of sells it.
3) It invites audience participation and connection through anticipation. This is primarily what I think Peterson is doing. Him struggling to come up with the name encourages the students in the audience to remember it. It reminds them of their own knowledge and experience of the movie, even if THEY haven't seen it in 2 decades. They feel like they want to shout it out at him. And then (if they don't actually shout it out and give him enough time for his performance) when he recalls it on his own, it forms a connection with the students ("Yes, we both remember details from a movie I liked. We must both like the movie.") while they're in an engaged state, that kind of puts a cherry on top.
I believed he knows their name very well also but I think it's his way of keeping the class mentally sharp and engaged. What's funny is he doesn't even have to so that, he is Jordan Peterson lol.
You could be right, but he has admitted in other interviews that he really struggles with names, especially first names.
It forget even the most simplest names and words mid-conversation all the time. Even though I know there is a very specific word that is the most applicable for the context and could give you the full definition, I'll still have to rack my brain for that specific word.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I guess that can just happen when you think more about the conceptual side of a topic and less about its cosmetic properties.
I have a request that for any future lectures uploaded can the questions from the students be subtitled instead of turning the audio up so much? As it's often distorted and I can't understand what is being said.
Thanks for uploading these lectures!
Jeolopy thats a really good suggestion
Now I am going to watch the new version of the lion king (2019). What a lecture. Thank You Jordan Peterson.
I envy the people who got to listen to this man in class.
I wish I could have found and listened to Jordan's lessons and views far earlier. He gives you a lot to think about.
56:38 - 56:51 watch how the two dudes in the front row have to smile about the comical statement Peterson has made. It feels so wholesome to see them enjoying the lecture xD
I really appreciate everything Jordan has done. It kills me to hear him struggle so bad with akathisia, and when the media smears him.
it’s pretty disgusting & unwarranted.
Like many others, I found this lecture to be quite profound. Several epiphanies arose in its duration, and the experience was of an almost transcendental nature. One of the best lectures I’ve had the privelige to ever come across. This man is a sorely needed sensation in today’s society.
I start a new job tomorrow, and with it a new career. What you said at 28:40 - 31:00 made my jaw drop. You could have been talking directly to me, bringing out the feelings I didn't know I felt, reassuring me in the process. For that gem, along with the countless hours full of deep ideas I have had the privilege of hearing from you, I thank you.
Was looking for that time-stamp thank you
Thank you so much for doing and posting this, Jordan. This was deeply meaningful to me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I see an obvious parallel between Simba's moment in the cave, seeing his father's reflection and Luke Skywalker's moment in the cave, seeing his own face in his father's mask, although one is positive and the other negative.
Is this the same archetype that Jesus expresses when he states, "I and the Father are one"? Or is that a different order of identification?
The connection you seek is James Earl Jones.
Yes, because going to the underworld/ unconscious is also going to be a confrontation with your darker self (or id?); acknowledging your capacity to do good or evil. the confrontation in both stories are the polar sides of the father: mufasa/scar.... obiwon/vader as the wise father vs the tyrannical father.
The jesus narrative is similar (both he and horus bear share themes as a messiah mythology), his descent into the underworld/chaos is his journey into the desert and being tempted by Satan. I duno about your quote though: that would require a little more analysis of the trinity in general, but Jesus in general is being the hero archtype and trying "fullfill the covenant" of the [blind] father, by correcting the barbaric and corrupting religious practices of his time.
The idea that there is a part of the self that remains constant across time is something that I have grappled with for quite a while. I can't dismiss the idea that it's evidence of the existence of an eternal soul. This idea really came to the forefront of my thinking when I had my 3 children. Each of them have the same parents, were raised in very similar conditions, yet they are completely UNIQUE! And they came into the world that way. Their personalities were evident to me from the moment they took their first breath. This has had a profound effect on me and my beliefs about the world. It was sooooo cool to hear someone of such high intelligence and academic stature to speak about this idea! Thank you Dr. Peterson!
Slowly working my way through all of JPs lectures and videos. I had a single prof like him at uni that inspired me, but man JP really knows how to change a life
Thank you for posting these. I've enjoyed them quiet well.
lol I never get ads for anything.
I also didn't make any noise while watching
funny how the cambridge thing he talked about is now under fire
He just randomly brings it up in a discussion revolving around the Lion King, and 15 months later the MSM breaks the story as an earth shattering revelation! Priceless, especially since Cambridge Analytica had rendered similar campaign consulting services in 40+ US elections back in 2014.
I was thinking that same thing.
Agreed. I think if we learn to pay attention and know what to look for, then we can connect the dots too...
@@matthewz5220 being in academia, you have access to certain privileged information. That and having your eyes and ears open. it's no surprise Peterson knew about Cambridge ahead of time, he's been around.
Prophet- philosopher.
Dr. Peterson, Allostatic Load may be the word you were looking for.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you’ve done and who you are.
I greatly appreciate your analysis, Dr. Peterson. This is exactly what I was looking for, in regards to a deeper understanding of Jung.
Anybody realize that Professor Peterson was takling about Cambridge Analytics a year before the scandal? At 7:44
If I had a teacher like him I’d have paid much more attention in school
This is an amazing break down of a movie i probably watched 100 times as a kid. I really enjoyed this
If you listen to this, and really listen. With an open mind. It's absolutely staggering how much this man knows and understands. It's amazing, and humbling.
wow he was talking about Cambridge analytics wayyy before it became a huge thing. Interesting.
"The crescent moon is a symbol of darkness." Very interesting observation, especially with regards to the recent occurrences in Europe.
This is so mind boggling ,so much illumination of truth brings tears to my eyes
If anyone likes these kind of film break downs - check out some of the talks by Mike Hill. He's a designer for the film industry but digs into psychology and archetypes in popular films