Why The Lego Movie 2 Wasn't Awesome

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  • čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
  • When the first LEGO Movie was announced, it seemed like an obvious marketing campaign for the LEGO brand to sell more toys. What we got however, was a truly unique story and next level animation from a team that revolutionized the way real world toys could be animated. But for it's sequel, The LEGO Movie 2 The Second Part, it seemed audiences were not as amazed at the little innovation that transpired between films. So what made The LEGO Movie 2 such a disappointment?
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  • @ikemeitz5287
    @ikemeitz5287 Před 8 měsíci +4084

    The Lego Batman movie was pretty dang good though!

    • @Telepathic_Snail_Overlords
      @Telepathic_Snail_Overlords Před 8 měsíci +192

      Best Lego and Batman movie.
      My daughter and I could not stop laughing.

    • @kevin10001
      @kevin10001 Před 8 měsíci +38

      Even though they used a Kerry Kelly’s robin likeness for dick Greyson cause the hair style color and glasses said it’s not dick Greyson I have no problem with them using her I would have just like it to actually be her not just putting dick Greyson’s name on her Lego likeness

    • @brandonscott5544
      @brandonscott5544 Před 8 měsíci +4

      THE LEGO MOVIE 2 FLOP,

    • @Will_Parker
      @Will_Parker Před 8 měsíci +44

      Even the Ninjago movie was decent. Lego movie 2 wasn't bad, just not as good as the first imo.

    • @corganreeves4297
      @corganreeves4297 Před 8 měsíci +30

      Lego Batman is my favorite Batman Movie. It’s actually so funny

  • @InvaderZim897
    @InvaderZim897 Před 8 měsíci +2153

    The idea that people were getting tired of the Lego movie’s visual style is quite frustrating when most animated films were sticking to the same CG style at that time anyway.

    • @assassin8636
      @assassin8636 Před 8 měsíci +11

      Well people will have to get used to it

    • @barmanitan
      @barmanitan Před 8 měsíci +111

      I think it's less people getting tired of it and more it not being groundbreaking in the way the 1st movie was. I think you can say the same thing about Toy Story, part of what made it incredible was that no one had done it before

    • @InvaderZim897
      @InvaderZim897 Před 8 měsíci +65

      @@barmanitan That's true, but cinema animation has just been saturated with CG in general. Sure, Spiderverse breathed some new life into it but personally I'm more than ready for traditional animation to make a comeback. It's been seen as "obsolete" for too long. I don't even need it to replace CG but if we need animated movies to have more unique styles it would be great if we could get rid of these arbitrary limits.

    • @menmonstersmachines
      @menmonstersmachines Před 2 měsíci

      It's happening again with the new art style that things like Arcane, Spiderverse, and Puss in Boots are using. I guess people just want more of the same old so they can complain about things never changing despite crying every time something changes.

    • @InvaderZim897
      @InvaderZim897 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@menmonstersmachines It would be nice if we could stop acting like hand drawn animation is outdated; it has a lot more potential for stylistic differences. I don’t think anyone ever got tired of it until CG happened and it became like a shiny new toy.
      Edit: Just realized I already said that in my previous reply but screw it, I can’t say it enough.

  • @disneyvillainsfan1666
    @disneyvillainsfan1666 Před 8 měsíci +1827

    I was just disappointed with Rex Dangervest and how he was a typical twist villain. Being an alternate future version of Emmet wasn't a bad idea, but the way it was executed was just underwhelming. The fact that both Rex and Emmet were voiced by Chris Pratt made the twist SUPER obvious.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 Před 8 měsíci +91

      Then Lightyear took that Idea, & make the Man behind Emperor Zurg into Oldman Buzz.

    • @francunsulo9756
      @francunsulo9756 Před 8 měsíci +52

      @@ranoutofgoodusernames8394 dude, that was just a star wars reference, wasn't supposed to be serious

    • @ranoutofgoodusernames8394
      @ranoutofgoodusernames8394 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@francunsulo9756 Seriously? I never knew that..... good to know

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +50

      I wouldn’t say that. I always thought it was just a fun double role as a support and direct reference to Chris Pratts overall Hollywood career! :-)

    • @francunsulo9756
      @francunsulo9756 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ranoutofgoodusernames8394 sarcasm? I really can't tell

  • @zeck7775
    @zeck7775 Před 8 měsíci +631

    I personally think the biggest problem was the plot.
    In the first movie, you had a clear end goal: Stop Lord Business. This was achieved in a great way in that Emmet makes Lord Business understand that individuality is important, and that everyone should have a chance to make something different from everyone else.
    The sequal felt lacking in these aspects. The clear end goal (for the beginning) was to stop Queen Whatevra Wannabi. But then the whole brainwashing thing happened, and then suddenly you have this mess where Emmet's actions are different from everyone else's. At the end of the movie we find that Queen Whatevra Wannabi was never the villain. But this fact feels... annoying. The whole movie was spent dramatizing a big battle or something between just Emmet and the Queen. And while that battle still happened between Emmet and Rex, it had close to no buildup, and just felt... anticlimactic.

    • @firewarrior8298
      @firewarrior8298 Před 8 měsíci +127

      In all honesty, I think that queen whatevr’wanabi should’ve remained as an antagonist alongside Rex, as it would show that BOTH siblings are at fault for their rivalry

    • @zeck7775
      @zeck7775 Před 8 měsíci +28

      @@firewarrior8298 Agreed.

    • @adamH.1
      @adamH.1 Před 8 měsíci

      Also the supposedly redeemed President business just fled and went golfing during the apocalypse

    • @tree427
      @tree427 Před 8 měsíci +11

      It was a horrible plot twist

    • @GuyWithNoNickName
      @GuyWithNoNickName Před 8 měsíci +43

      That’s not really the point of the movie tho. The point (like with first film) wasn’t actually the Lego aspect of the film at all. It was the real world conflict.
      It came out as a surprise for the climax in the first film, but then once the twist came, it gave the whole film a new meaning. About a creative Son feeling limited by his all-business father, until at the end those walls break down, and the Dad allows his Son to be himself and embrace his imagination, not worrying about perfection, but creativity.
      Lego Movie 2’s conflict isn’t about Emmet Vs an “evil” Queen.
      It’s about 2 siblings. A young boy, dealing with growing up and what that means. He doesn’t want to allow vulnerability or colorful stuff into his world, because that’s not “tough” and “manly”, which is characterized in Rex (the version of himself that he thinks he needs to grow up to be)
      And his conflict with his “annoying” younger sister. To the point where their mother makes them put their toys away because they can’t play nice. To him, his sister’s the bad guy, because she’s causing trouble for his world.
      But his little sister just wants to play with his big brother, she didn’t want to cause conflict, but the boy didn’t want to allow his sister’s creativity into his world, cause that’s not manly.
      The Queen originally came from the boy as a gift to the girl, in the beginning of the film. The boy states it can be “whatever you want it to be”, then as he got a bit older, he lost sight of that. The Queen entering his world was the sister trying to remind the boy of what he gave HER.
      In the end, he realizes that he CAN have vulnerability, he can have other people in his life. Once that happens, that part of himself he thinks he needs to be (Rex) disappears. And his Lego world is no longer dark and brooding and “manly”, like in the beginning, but it’s a mix of his and his sister’s world, and he opens up to the colorful and fun things.
      The Queen was never the Villain because she represented his sister, who the brother found out was never the villain, and instead it was Rex, who represented the mind state he thought he needed to have.
      The whole movie is an illustration. If you just view it as an animated adventure movie, maybe it may not seem as exciting or fresh as the first film, which had more of an actual straightforward Lego adventure. Lego 2 was written as more of an allegory.

  • @JiffyScooters
    @JiffyScooters Před 8 měsíci +494

    Never saw The Second Part but The Lego Batman movie was so good and it is very sad we’ll never see the sequel. The writers said it was called Lego Superfriends and the focal point of it was Batman and Superman’s relationship with some crazy cameo only Lego can do, so I assume it was Marvel characters but that is only my assumption.

    • @woolfmcwolf
      @woolfmcwolf Před 8 měsíci +14

      Why didn't they make a sequel? I loved Lego Batman!

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +56

      @@woolfmcwolf Because Ninjago and Lego Movie 2 flopped at the box office, Warner Bros sold the rights to Universal Pictures for a 5 year deal meaning it ends basically any plans for Lego Batman sequels because as you know Batman is DC, Warner Bros owns DC which means Universal can't continue it

    • @woolfmcwolf
      @woolfmcwolf Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@15Candles TIL, thank you Mr. Scorsese

    • @Ozzbim
      @Ozzbim Před 8 měsíci

      @@woolfmcwolf they sold the rights to universal, so we might get a third movie

    • @EclipsingTNT
      @EclipsingTNT Před 8 měsíci

      @@OzzbimA third movie is, in fact, in development.

  • @thesheto8962
    @thesheto8962 Před 8 měsíci +858

    The movie was fine but compared to the first it massively underwhelmed

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +30

      And it was quite surprising that it was a bit underwhelming knowing that Lord and Miller wrote the screenplay. It had few rewrites from other writers before the studio settle with Lord and Miller's final script which I expected it to be more than this 😢

    • @legometaworld2728
      @legometaworld2728 Před 8 měsíci +11

      @ScorseseMart1n The script was less than I expect out of Lord and Miller, I agree, but they also wrote Extreme Movie and the story of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2, both of which were worse than The LEGO Movie 2, so I guess it’s best to just acknowledge that everyone can mess up but some can also make absolutely amazing films like Lord and Miller have done in other cases.

    • @xcyan_lilyx5788
      @xcyan_lilyx5788 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I can’t remember what happened in the 2nd movie no matter how hard I try

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@xcyan_lilyx5788 I only remember that song titled "Catchy Song" which is definetely as good as "Everything Is Awesome". I mean, it managed to live up to it's title, it was a catchy song lol

    • @simplegeometry9475
      @simplegeometry9475 Před 7 měsíci

      I hated catchy song with a passion. Everything is awesome was my favourite song at the time.

  • @Will_Parker
    @Will_Parker Před 8 měsíci +274

    I watched both lego movies with my mom in theaters (I was already an adult at the time, we both just thought they looked funny) as well as the lego Batman movie at home. We both loved all 3 and would quote them all the time. She passed away a month ago and now they mean even more to me than ever, flaws and all.

    • @Astro_Rohan
      @Astro_Rohan Před 8 měsíci +11

      Sorry to hear about your loss. Rip😢

    • @legometaworld2728
      @legometaworld2728 Před 8 měsíci +6

      I’m sorry for your loss, Rest in Peace

    • @6ix_4our
      @6ix_4our Před 8 měsíci +3

      Sorry for your loss 😔

    • @danieldesilva9482
      @danieldesilva9482 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I'm so sorry for your loss, RIP, and condolences to you

    • @dankmoonman6298
      @dankmoonman6298 Před 8 měsíci +2

      They’re all awesome man, I’m glad you guys got to enjoy them together

  • @sxeptomaniac
    @sxeptomaniac Před 8 měsíci +1002

    I really think the Ninjago movie hurt the franchise the worst, because it proved they only had one idea to go with, even when it made no sense with the world that existed. Ninjago already had multiple seasons of a series by that point, so they'd developed a ton of lore and characters over that time. The movie threw all that out in favor of rehashing the same tone as the other Lego movies. I think the second Lego movie could have done fine if Ninjago had shown that they could do something different, story-wise, in between the two movies.
    My son is still watching and rewatching the Ninjago series to this day, but I think he's forgotten the movie even exists at this point. It was easily the worst Lego movie.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +135

      I'm a fan of the show so watching the movie with a bunch of changes that it had was absolutely weird. Hell they didn't even use spinjitzu atleast once which was vastly disaapointing

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +8

      But then it wouldn’t be the Lego movie if they didn’t do that kind of style, it would feel very much out of place compared to the rest of the franchise, EH?

    • @AJedits65
      @AJedits65 Před 8 měsíci +44

      @@SuperMoviemaster21I think what he means it didn’t have to be about daddy issues like the last two lego movies

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@AJedits65 Well but that appropriately fits with the relationship between Lloyd and Gammerdon eh?

    • @sxeptomaniac
      @sxeptomaniac Před 8 měsíci +55

      @@SuperMoviemaster21 That doesn't even make sense. There were only two movies at that time, and unlike the other three, Ninjago was an existing Lego property with it's own lore. Making the Ninjago movie such a tone-deaf imitation of the other two movies (at that time) was the inconsistency.
      Who was it supposed to be for? Anyone familiar with Ninjago would find ditching nearly everything about the world jarring, but people who only enjoyed the Lego movies wouldn't have a reason to be interested in Ninjago. The movie wasn't made for anyone to really enjoy.

  • @TheFlashStickman
    @TheFlashStickman Před 8 měsíci +666

    Sure the sequel is a bit underwhelming compared to the original, but I don't think by any means it's a bad film. It's still better than many animated family films.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +38

      Yeah, at best it's not a bad movie. It's not as bad as The Emoji Movie which if the Lego movies were handled in the wrong way, it could've ended up being The Emoji Movie

    • @joevictor53
      @joevictor53 Před 8 měsíci +40

      I don't think anyone was saying it was a bad film. It just didn't have that same special feeling that the first one did.

    • @lonesurvivor8828
      @lonesurvivor8828 Před 8 měsíci +17

      The moral of the story is, movie publishers are stupid, they give people money and freedom to make a passion project hoping it will break even. The movie is released and they discover they have a metaphorical gold mine on their hands. So they limit creative freedom, and all the life/gold quickly drains away, so the sell it to someone else.

    • @XDzkivardi
      @XDzkivardi Před 7 měsíci +8

      I think also has to do with the fact that there wasn't much publicity about the film, I mean I didn't find out about this film until years later and I loved the first film and was hoping for a sequel.
      I finished watching the second full movie exactly two days ago, and I actually loved it more than I expected, because of all those comments that it wasn't as good as the first, of course it's not as good as the first but still exceeded my expectations.
      I still have a small hope that there will be a third movie in the future, although it is not very likely.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 7 měsíci

      @@hooleepuk4219 Why does it get so much hate? Because it exists

  • @ProfDragonite
    @ProfDragonite Před 8 měsíci +739

    I feel like it was a natural evolution of the narrative from the first movies; the movement from parent/child to siblings made a lot of sense. It was less about "the sexes" and more about how siblings learn to relate and paky with each other, which is something not really focused on in modern fiction. It simply suffered from the unfortunate reality of diminishing returns.

    • @freshgarbage1492
      @freshgarbage1492 Před 8 měsíci +56

      It suffered from being mediocre and less imaginative than the first movie.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 8 měsíci +21

      It's nothing more than a mountainload of wasted and lost potential

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +40

      Completely agree! :-) I don’t understand why everyone else doesn’t see the value with this, I actually think I like it overall better and things from pacing and a lot of its ideas than the first one

    • @mymocs61
      @mymocs61 Před 8 měsíci +4

      THIS!! like just really think there was no advertising campaign for it

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@KaminoKatie how so? Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that others do or that you’re necessarily right? Even with its overall reception, How do you know that the majority is not mistaken or misguided either?

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Před 8 měsíci +57

    I feel that Across the Spider-Verse would suffered a similar fate if there had been a lot of spin-offs before its release

  • @FishoD
    @FishoD Před 8 měsíci +64

    It's interresting how some audiences want to see something new (Lego movies got stale), but other audiences want the exact same thing over and over (Fast nad Furious).

    • @tymonsulimastalman1727
      @tymonsulimastalman1727 Před 8 měsíci +11

      Fast nad Furious are a stupid and shallow action series, mainly for viewers who like such films. They know what they will watch. Their taste.
      There are also people who want to see different approaches, or at least something more than "it's the same movie as before, just about something different." And there are also those who want their intelligence to be respected.

    • @yfrit_gg
      @yfrit_gg Před 8 měsíci +6

      ​@@tymonsulimastalman1727You pretty much nailed it. There are franchises I enjoy because they are safe, easy fun, something to watch when I'm emotionally overwhelmed and don't want to be processing too much, and then there are franchises which I like because they surprise and inspire me, and leave a lasting impact.
      The LEGO movies, unfortunately, fall under the latter because they lack the spectacle that would keep me engaged in stupid fun franchises, which isn't a big deal because they make up for it with the story. But then, if they can't quite get the story right...

    • @Jacob630
      @Jacob630 Před 7 měsíci

      @@tymonsulimastalman1727SHUT UP IDIOT

    • @KgEclispe252
      @KgEclispe252 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​​@@tymonsulimastalman1727That doesn't excuse horrible writing. I want a fun movie but also enjoy it's characters and stories instead of bringing characters back from the dead

    • @tymonsulimastalman1727
      @tymonsulimastalman1727 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@KgEclispe252 Of course. I'm not excusing bad movies, I'm just explaining why people might like them. And I don't like the excessive resurrection of characters either. It's worst if they invalidate the emotional weight of an event by doing so, either to save a plot or as part of a fan-service.

  • @Styrophoamicus
    @Styrophoamicus Před 8 měsíci +111

    On the one hand, it's sad that Warner Bros scrapped the franchise (especially after hearing what Chris McKay wanted to do for a sequel). On the other hand, I'm glad we got 4 solid good-to-great range movies.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci +9

      Yeah that's the thing, I'm glad that the Lego movies at best aren't gigantic product placement movies. In every way, the movies could've been garbage like The Lego Movie but all of them turned out to be a solid movie. I didn't like Ninjago all that much but I still didn't mind watching it

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers Před 8 měsíci

      @@15CandlesYou mean emoji movie?

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 8 měsíci

      @@Dr.Oofers You think?

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 Před 8 měsíci

      I want to know what The Lego Movie Part 3 would be about, I hope it would involve the older sibling or cousin to the human story mix, but yeah

  • @JustTryingToChillOut
    @JustTryingToChillOut Před 8 měsíci +79

    I think the main problem is the fact that the first lego movie along with the batman movie set the bar way too high. These films felt too good to be true, so when the creators tried to recreate the same magic they weren't able to do so.

  • @oldfashionedboots2774
    @oldfashionedboots2774 Před 8 měsíci +28

    Tbh, I quite enjoyed the the second Lego movie- I thought it was a really cute way of showing how a little girl would play with her legos- from making them sing and dance and having every character be as likable as possible- I’m not sure why you say it lacked imagination, cause it sure was an imaginative movie to me. Sure it wasn’t perfect by any means, nor was it as good as the original… but it’s a movie that deserves more credit then people give it

    • @SonicGamerGirl2006
      @SonicGamerGirl2006 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Agreed.
      While it didn't have the same charm as the first film, The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part was definitely a pretty good movie in its own right. 😊😁

  • @gemma2547
    @gemma2547 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I was quite surprised when i found out people didn't like the second Lego movie because it was my favourite of the bunch. I actually cried during the scene of the siblings connecting as me and my own sister failed to connect in a similar way. I understand that it isn't the best film out of all the lego movies but it holds a special place in my heart, as while parents come and go you enter this world with your siblings and you and your siblings are often 2 sides of the same coin, simmarly to Rex and Emmet.

  • @frogmouth2
    @frogmouth2 Před 8 měsíci +32

    It could also be said that there was a lot of franchise fatigue and the film fell into a lot of traps that sequels often do like splitting up the main cast.

  • @Fanchus337
    @Fanchus337 Před 8 měsíci +154

    Didn't know there was a second lego movie tbh

    • @thatguymatt5816
      @thatguymatt5816 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Hahaha same 😂

    • @nala6846
      @nala6846 Před 8 měsíci +7

      me neither! I was like you mean lego batman or... 😂

    • @freedompodcast4518
      @freedompodcast4518 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Me too

    • @AWSVids
      @AWSVids Před 8 měsíci +2

      I was gonna post the same comment if no one else did.
      I HAD NO IDEA THIS MOVIE EXSITED!!! This is like a Mandela effect for me right now. I have no idea how this movie could have come and gone without me ever even hearing about it. I'm pretty tuned into movie news and releases and everything. I wasn't particularly distracted in February 2019 as far as I can remember... I just somehow didn't hear anything about this. Did they market it at all?? I also spend a lot of time on youtube and watch coverage of movie news and reviews and everything... don't remember ever seeing anybody talking about Lego Movie 2. I never saw a trailer. Never seen any of the images from this movie that this video showed. Nothing. Seeing this video's thumbnail was the first time I ever heard anything about it. I was sure it had to have been a direct-to-video release or something... but nope. Theater release and everything. How? How did this pass by me and seemingly everybody in my entire circle of movie fan friends and CZcamsrs, etc... ? Seriously like a Mandela Effect.

    • @FS64_
      @FS64_ Před 8 měsíci +3

      I completely blocked the movie from my memory for like the past 3 years

  • @skysiren4113
    @skysiren4113 Před 8 měsíci +89

    One of the biggest problems I had with this film is how they handled Rex Dangervest as a character. Not only is the twist with him actually being Emmet from the future so oblivious that you can't help but groan, but he feels like an excuse to have a twist villian just because it was popular at the time (and even then people were getting sick of it)
    I think instead they should've had it where he was actually trying to prevent Armamageddon after he lost his friends, thinking the reason why he failed was because he wasn't tough enough so he goes back in time to help Emmet be tough, thinking that will stop Armamageddon. However the way he went at it (choosing violence and not listening to others) only causes Armamageddon to happen again. Its only when he and Emmet realise that you don't need to be tough to be strong and its good to understand both sides is when Rex realises his mistakes and helps Emmet to fix them, ultimately sacrificing his existence in the process

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 8 měsíci +9

      The movie could've been a lot better if they had made Armamageddon to be an unavoidable event that the citizens of the Lego universe cannot stop or prevent it no matter how hard they tried

    • @gtd5626
      @gtd5626 Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@KaminoKatie That'd be such a downer ending.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@gtd5626 The way I'd do it is to make that into a timeloop thanks to Rex who was driven mad by trying to prevent Armamageddon only to fail again and again for lord knows how many times he reset the timeline

    • @PrincessKittymeow-mt4yr
      @PrincessKittymeow-mt4yr Před 2 měsíci +2

      Like homura akemi?

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@PrincessKittymeow-mt4yr Yeah

  • @thevikingbear2343
    @thevikingbear2343 Před 8 měsíci +93

    Surprisingly the Lego portion of Across the Spiderverse had that Lego Movie magic.

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Despite lazily recycling J.K. Simmons’ audio as “J. Jonah Jameson” from Sam Raimi’s _Spider-Man?_

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +26

      @@Wired4Life2That is the kind of thing these Lego movies would do, they did those kinds of things with the Lego Batman movie

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@SuperMoviemaster21 I don’t recall any particular instance in _The Lego Batman Movie_ of recycling past media audio.

    • @SuperMoviemaster21
      @SuperMoviemaster21 Před 8 měsíci +17

      @@Wired4Life2 Well, do you not remember the archive footage and there’s also some other audio sprinkle here and there throughout the movie.....They’re essentially the exact same kind of thing, EH?

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@SuperMoviemaster21 Perhaps, but those were clearly references, whereas the Lego scene in _ATSV,_ while still fun, took me aback with the Jameson audio lifted straight from the 1st Raimi film (which wasn't even directed at Peter).

  • @TheLEGOZora
    @TheLEGOZora Před 8 měsíci +129

    You hit the nail on the head man. The non-LEGO particles were a huge problem for me. The fact it's clearly a rehash too. First video that was honest about it's faults that I've seen.

    • @TheLEGOZora
      @TheLEGOZora Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks I will!@@Thomperfan

    • @TheLEGOZora
      @TheLEGOZora Před 8 měsíci +3

      Just finished it. Stupendous editing and a great dissection of the flaws in plot. I would add that all the references that were not already LEGO sets were insulting to LEGO fans, like they didn't get the references in the first movie were to LEGO themes that already existed.@@Thomperfan

    • @gtd5626
      @gtd5626 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I kinda like the fact they kept up with the live action. We know from the first movie it takes place in the real world and since it's not a twist anymore they decided to incorporate more of that.

  • @supermegahappy2105
    @supermegahappy2105 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I doubt anyone else noticed but the bricks you used to write "heart humor and imagination" were all not actual "lego" bricks, they were storage cases shaped like bricks you can tell from the outline

  • @redtsar
    @redtsar Před 8 měsíci +56

    It was an ok movie, it seemed to me that they were playing it safe instead of trying something different or risky
    That's the problem with sequels, they ride out the success of the original knowing that the fanbase will come and watch it regardless

  • @bluesfier7758
    @bluesfier7758 Před 8 měsíci +18

    I would also add that they didn't utilize all the great characters that were more of a focus in the first movie. Unikitty, Benny, Batman, and many others were barely in it. Instead they focused on Rex and he didn't do anything to make the story great. Also this lack of focus on other characters lead to the Lego sets to not sell very well since they all had the same three characters in them.

  • @BlackShadow01-05
    @BlackShadow01-05 Před 8 měsíci +21

    Yk I think the biggest issue was that it lost the soul the first and Batman even had the LEGO movies I feel should be unexpected in what they do. I didn’t expect the first to be so good and I didn’t expect Batman to be such a great adaptation that understood Batman and his work while also being a celebration of WB

  • @knuclear200x
    @knuclear200x Před 8 měsíci +17

    I couldn't share lego with my sister neither. We'd keep ruining each other's mocs and constantly bogart pieces until one of us grew out of it. The way they resolved it wasn't really any better

    • @gtd5626
      @gtd5626 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I love how throughout the movie the lego characters fight and argue the way the kids would.
      Metalbeard: "Fire the lazer canon!"
      Shoots
      Duplo: "I eat lazers"
      Metalbeard: "That's impossible!"
      Batman throws boomerang and it hits duplo
      Duplo: "You missed me"
      Batman: "No I did not"
      General Sweet Mayhem: "You attacked us!"
      Wyldstyle: "No, you started it!"
      GeneralSweetMayhem: "No, *you* stared it!"
      General Sweet Mayhem: "Well I asked you first"
      Wyldstyle: "Well, I asked you second"
      General Sweet Mayhem: "Real mature"
      When shooting Wyldstyle with her sticker gun
      General Sweet Mayhem: "Well I expected your expecting our expecting.
      😂😂😂

  • @Makocat
    @Makocat Před 8 měsíci +30

    I liked some moments in it. Some of the musical moments and a couple designs that they turned into actual sets but yeah it's not as good.

  • @randomclouds4404
    @randomclouds4404 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I actually loved The Lego Movie 2 way more than the first one.
    The message is better in the first but the pacing is a bit too fast-paced for me, the second is more manageable and the sequel's message managed to resonate more with me.

    • @maxkingjoe5460
      @maxkingjoe5460 Před 4 měsíci +1

      well two times opposite to me especially they change to ruined characters too much and make zero scenes

    • @Damian-cilr2
      @Damian-cilr2 Před 8 dny

      For me its the opposite,the first is fast paced but its not too fast where i don't understand wtf's going on,but the second movie's pacing is so slower,i got bored after 10 minutes...

  • @AchtungEnglander
    @AchtungEnglander Před 8 měsíci +13

    Also you said it right from the beginning, 4 films in 5 years. Franchise fatigue is a real thing.

  • @ssemergencyworld7362
    @ssemergencyworld7362 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I loved that it was a musical. I still listen to the soundtrack often

    • @santiagolopez3909
      @santiagolopez3909 Před 6 měsíci

      Me too. That made it better.

    • @Damian-cilr2
      @Damian-cilr2 Před 8 dny

      I don't really like musicals
      Makes me understand more why i don't like this movie.

  • @sammartina8574
    @sammartina8574 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Regardless of how most people felt, I fell completely in love with this movie when I saw it in the cinema. It was awesome for me.

  • @valdirberbert9361
    @valdirberbert9361 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Although I love the LEGO Batman Movie I think WB should have put more though into not what but who made the first movie so good, imaginative people like Lord and Miller, you can feel the passion behind each scene of the movie, it had humour that surprised you, a plot that moved fast, jokes that aren't so in your face you wanna die and characters that even tho fall into some stereotypes, aren't two dimensional, I hope we can someday watch Emmet again, because he is not ironically my favorite character of all time

  • @scaper8
    @scaper8 Před 8 měsíci +35

    I think you're largely on the right track, but I would say real-world events also played a part. There was a _massive_ cold snap ocer much of the United States during opening weekend. I remember I made a point of going because I loved the first and wanted to be there (loved the movie, by the way) and it was near zero on the Fahrenheit scale.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 8 měsíci +1

      The cold snap didn't happen in the rest of the world

    • @scaper8
      @scaper8 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @KaminoKatie True, yes; but a large U.S. opening is still considered important for a "successful" release. As stated in the video, even as it was, it was quite successful in making a profit. It was just the precession in so far as whether the studio wanted to make more.

  • @matthias720
    @matthias720 Před 8 měsíci +49

    In my opinion, the first movie was an 11 out of 10. The second, was a respectable 8 out of 10. Nothing earth shattering, but still fantastic. I own both and watch them at least twice a year. They're fun.

  • @giodhuha6771
    @giodhuha6771 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Watch WB do the same with Barbie and Mattel franchises later.

  • @Devil-Made
    @Devil-Made Před 8 měsíci +6

    The problem is that studios are so starved for ideas they try to make anything and everything a franchise. This (usually) goes against what made the original work in the first place: it’s originality. When we have a wonderfully created, brilliantly written piece of nostalgic cinema it’s great and fulfilling. When we have multiple pieces of wonderfully created, brilliantly written pieces of nostalgic cinema it becomes the norm, and therefore mundane. It loses its originality by its very existence. When everything is special, nothing is special.

    • @EclipsingTNT
      @EclipsingTNT Před 8 měsíci +1

      You think sequels are inherently bad as a concept?

  • @jessicaliew4735
    @jessicaliew4735 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m also a Vancouver knitter and enjoy how you highlight local yarns and fibre fun in your videos. Like many, I learned to knit from my grandmother. I knit off and on over the years, but found the love again over COVID and haven’t looked back.

  • @TheDiamondCore
    @TheDiamondCore Před 8 měsíci +9

    Apart from Rex (he really shouldn’t have been a future version of Emmet and his own character entirely) this movie was really good in my opinion, it isn’t as “awesome” as the first by any means, but it still has that same charm that most Lego movies have (except the ninjago movie, that movie can rot into lost media for all I care)

    • @phabiorules
      @phabiorules Před 8 měsíci +2

      I disagree. I feel like Rex is supposed to represent the brother’s teenage self where his interests become edgier, while Emmet is supposed to represent his inner child. It’s why Emmet stayed the same despite everything else becoming more gritty in the post apocalyptic world.
      Having them be separate characters could have worked, but it fits better having them be the same character thematically as a major theme is childhood interests vs adolescent interests.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@phabiorules I feel like they should've instead pull a Psychonauts 2 by having Rex's redemption be a metaphor for Finn reconciling with his past and present selves and accepting that they're both equally important to who he is as a person

  • @LuisFlores-ne6nt
    @LuisFlores-ne6nt Před 2 měsíci +2

    I kinda didn’t like how everyone was treating emmet in the second movie like if they completely forgot he was a master builder

  • @Perfect_Rice
    @Perfect_Rice Před 8 měsíci +2

    The first film initially felt like it was going to be nothing more than a 90 minute Lego advert. And, watching it for the first time, it still seems kind of a like a (though admittedly stunning) 90 minute Lego advert. It's a fun and goofy adventure with lots of excitement, lots of laughs, and a whole load of Lego bricks. The great part was when it pulled the rug out from under you, casting the rest of the film in a different light, and giving the ending some genuine emotion. It goes from good to great. From a film I thought was fun but okay, but to a film I ended up buying.
    The issue is the second film cannot do that. The first film had you going in without expecting much, and finding greatness. The second film had you going in expecting greatness, and not getting much.
    (I would've loved an entirely original script by Raphael Bob-Waksberg, but the studio probably wouldn't have gone for that.)

  • @linatwoones
    @linatwoones Před 8 měsíci +9

    Watched it quite a while ago but I remember liking it cause I have an older bro, and the idea of the younger sister just trying to follow and connect with her brother (in this case through Lego) resonates pretty deeply with me. When we were growing older and he was entering teenagehood and getting more distant, there were so many times where I’d thought something so similar to “I just want you to play with me”

  • @neonice
    @neonice Před 8 měsíci +4

    Imo the stopmotion style kept being super cool and enjoyable throughout all the movies

  • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
    @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Před 8 měsíci +7

    i did and still do think it got more hate or bad reviews than it deserved, but i also see why its disappointing, and would be curious to see what the original version would've been like, sometimes taking chances are scary and don't pan out, but studio's don't like that, they're too scared

    • @pabloherranz1795
      @pabloherranz1795 Před 8 měsíci

      Do you want to see a positive review? If you speak Spanish, I'd recommend the one from the channel Javierinator3000.

  • @WallThrow
    @WallThrow Před 8 měsíci +1

    Oh you woke up and chose WAR. It's super rewatchable thanks to the music. The end credits are INSANELY GOOD. My fave end credits of all time thanks to a STELLAR Lonely Island song.

  • @frankstone8930
    @frankstone8930 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I still liked the 2nd movie.
    But really impressive that Warner pulled off train wrecking the Snyder verse AND the Lego verse just at the same time in the same style 😂😂😂

  • @JRS06
    @JRS06 Před 8 měsíci +5

    It was good. I don't think I've watched it as much in comparison to the first Lego Movie, but that was my introduction to Lego in general. The sequel has many great things about it.

  • @dreamphoenix000
    @dreamphoenix000 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Tbh I looooved Lego Batman. I’ll get downvoted to hell but it’s my fav depiction of Bruce on screen.

  • @Hollowed_Trinity
    @Hollowed_Trinity Před 8 měsíci +3

    im EXTREMELY happy that the lego movie in general is still talked about to this day, its just peak. i recently 100% completed the lego movie videogame

  • @amethystclouds
    @amethystclouds Před 8 měsíci +21

    If they had changed the "twist villain" it would have been better. Spiderverse has Miles as Prowler in the sequel but it is believeable. Everything in the movie leads up to it. The way they introduced Rex Dangervest was underwhelming. If it was the main plot point, not the dystopia(real teen behaviour), not the other universe("who expected that"), not the "wedding" (how could batman simply fall), not anything else, just that and that itself then could have made more sense for the movie's plot point. Apart from that I think the movie was great. The incorparation of non-lego materials disappointed me tho.

  • @Ghost_GamerGD
    @Ghost_GamerGD Před 8 měsíci +3

    The first one had so much joy and happiness and the second one littarally destroyed "everything is awsome"

  • @gtd5626
    @gtd5626 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Imo the 2nd one had more relatable messages and themes. I remember being young and like Bianca wanting to play with my older sibling, but they wouldn't let me because they, like Finn, thought I would ruin everything. Then I got a younger sibling, and I became Finn as they wanted to play with me, and I wouldn't let them because they wouldn't play the way I wanted to. I highly recommend watching the cinemawins video on how great it is.

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG Před 7 měsíci +1

    Additionally, they forgot to include builder vision. That was an amazing piece of vfx that was in the first film, but the 2nd one seems to have forgotten that element

  • @jacobquestionmark
    @jacobquestionmark Před 8 měsíci +5

    I felt that the lego movie 2 released to late compared to the first movie

  • @skaionex
    @skaionex Před 8 měsíci +8

    I love this movie and think people are just getting intents wrong.
    People hated the twist villain but it was more about the opposite. How the "evil" group that was built to be suspicious was actually good and wanted genuine peace.
    The coming of age/playing with siblings story was great and was a good next step.
    I feel like it just gets hated too much when its just as good as the first. Not everything needs to be super bold and new every single time.

  • @SBMBMPSPPS69
    @SBMBMPSPPS69 Před 3 měsíci +1

    One of the things that pissed me off the most with The LEGO Movie 2 and The LEGO NINJAGO Movie, was how much they break the character's models. The first LEGO movie would do it from time to time but it feels like that LM2 and LNM would've benefited more from being animated like the the NINJAGO series or Chima, with how much the later 2 movies lose the charm of "Characters only having the range of LEGO Minifigures."

  • @alexoxo1
    @alexoxo1 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I don’t know how to explain it but the Lego movie felt like a movie about legos. Lego movie 2 feels like a movie about emmet and Lucy and Rex and random characters.

  • @StuartPoore
    @StuartPoore Před 8 měsíci

    Someone's uploaded the wrong closed captions ! It makes quite entertaining reading while watching 🙂

  • @gablit-gt8kk
    @gablit-gt8kk Před 8 měsíci +1

    Movies must not end on a cliffhanger if the cliffhanger is important to the sequel

  • @iamartist1796
    @iamartist1796 Před 8 měsíci +2

    What are the captions💀

  • @IDrawSometimes_
    @IDrawSometimes_ Před 7 měsíci +1

    The lesson in the first movie was essentially "be creative, don't follow the instructions",
    Yet the second one failed to learn that lesson

  • @carlsoll
    @carlsoll Před 8 měsíci

    Hey I just wanted to say KingPrinceChambermaid the old YT channel name? Something like that, right 🤔 Anyways, I love playing your Videos in the Livingroom, Great stuff 👌

  • @lisashaw2263
    @lisashaw2263 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I dont understand people saying Queen Whatevra being a twist hero. We all knew she wasnt evil from the start.

  • @Luc42
    @Luc42 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I feel like The LEGO Movie Part II was basically a slightly different (yet not different enough) rehash of the first LEGO Movie

  • @ShellySwirl
    @ShellySwirl Před 7 měsíci +3

    I loved this movie and the whole sibling relationship thing...
    But I do agree the first one is WAY better..

  • @legometaworld2728
    @legometaworld2728 Před 8 měsíci +4

    At the beginning, the text reading “business” on the wall briefly reflects rainbow colors from the Duplo teleportation beam before reverting about a second later. This is a reference to businesses pretending to support the LGBTQIA+ community by changing their logo to rainbow colors during Pride Month, only to revert the logo as soon as the month ends.

  • @zojojozo86
    @zojojozo86 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The first one has the twist where the legos existed in the real world. And it has a solid plot. The second one kept hammering the fact that they took place in the real world like we were too dumb to figure it out. I get it, he isn’t playing well with his sister. Then Emmitt was fighting himself under the dryer like it took place in the Toy Story universe. Kind of outside the real world while still in it. I thought it was kind of convoluted. The Queen was set up as a villain but wasn’t because the little sisters character can’t be evil or wrong, only the brother’s charters could for some reason. Eh. I didn’t like it. My kids didn’t either.

  • @jarooe9658
    @jarooe9658 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Anyone else here remembering how much of a different world 2019 was or is it just me?

  • @tommycochran1019
    @tommycochran1019 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It basically ruined everything Lego Batman just did and basically force pairing Batman with an insanely annoying character that basically hijacks the whole movie.

  • @stevewhite8178
    @stevewhite8178 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I honestly didn’t even know there was a sequel

  • @kUHASZ
    @kUHASZ Před 8 měsíci +2

    There are 2 simple reasons why I really don't like this movie:
    1. it was advertised as a post-apocalyptic movie with really cool atmosphere and sick character designs, that's what 90% of the trailers and posters show, but in the movie they abandoned it all after first 10 minutes.
    2. All the side characters got kidnapped and were absent from the adventure, and they were my favorite part of the first movie.
    I wouldn't say that they were super important there but at least everyone got their moments to shine and they stayed together all the time.
    Also Lord Business just dipped at the start of the movie and had no purpose in the story.

    • @gtd5626
      @gtd5626 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lord Business leaving was supposed to represent the Dad staying out of Finn and Biancas fighting.

  • @theNEWguy102
    @theNEWguy102 Před 8 měsíci +5

    For me was the songs, the 1st was something even an adult could enjoy but the 2nd felt like a straight up children's film

  • @Nathidraws
    @Nathidraws Před 8 měsíci +1

    Now I wanna see what the Lego movie 2 would have been if they didn't change the script

  • @GoodwillWright
    @GoodwillWright Před 8 měsíci +2

    Honestly, for me, I liked the second movie more. The only thing the first movie had going for me was that it was "novel". But the plot was fairly predictable and I didn't particularly connect with any of the themes. Not saying it's a bad film, but for me, it was just a film.
    I can't say the 2nd film is much better, if at all in those departments, but I found it more entertaining if nothing else. Had a bit more stuff going on in it. Didn't really care for the twist villain but I did like the bait and switch with that Queen whatever her name was.
    It's like the Sing movies. I much more enjoyed the second one than the first one. The first one just felt like watching Got Talent or Idol but with animals. At least the 2nd one had some much better set pieces and amazing animation and design to elevate above it.
    Of course, when I say I liked something more, I'm not saying it is better.

  • @spiff922
    @spiff922 Před 8 měsíci +6

    It’s the Lord and Miller sequel effect. I’m a big fan and their earlier films could’ve worked as stand alone films. Plus they always got pulled off the sequels to work on other stuff. Like lego movie 2 is the sacrifice for spider verse lol.

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers Před 8 měsíci +2

      I had a feeling that them working in multiple movies (and even the promos for Spiderverse mentioning “the people who made The Lego Movie” iirc) was what made the sequel feel so shallow.

  • @nathanstafford8412
    @nathanstafford8412 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I cannot believe the Lego Movie 2 came out 4 years ago

  • @PEPPERslim_
    @PEPPERslim_ Před 7 měsíci +1

    The biggest flop was waiting 5 years for the kids that watched it to grow out of it

  • @Legomoviefan2008
    @Legomoviefan2008 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I am a huge Lego movie fan. I watched it everyday from almost an entire month. I was so excited for the sequel. No one would ever realised how disappointed I was when I watched it as an 11 year old. I ended up getting obsessed with Blu and jewel but after that I just feel depressed think about the Lego movie 2.

  • @freedompodcast4518
    @freedompodcast4518 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Is it just me? I never heard they made a second lego movie or any news of production of it?

  • @cordyceps7531
    @cordyceps7531 Před 8 měsíci +1

    the second part felt so lacking. Glad no one remembers it

  • @dicksonZero
    @dicksonZero Před 4 měsíci

    i seriously thought i didn't watch the 2nd movie until you show me the footages

  • @MadMax-ii8gq
    @MadMax-ii8gq Před 8 měsíci +2

    Yeah the first was a beautiful creative masterpiece that I still haven't forgotten. The second was pretty forgettable.

  • @chimbloanimation9242
    @chimbloanimation9242 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Damn executives you should just let the filmmakers make do not interfere

  • @lalaland2107
    @lalaland2107 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Lego Movie was from 2014?!? I thought it was from 2009 😂

  • @JayTohab
    @JayTohab Před 8 měsíci

    Great vid!

  • @THETRIVIALTHINGS
    @THETRIVIALTHINGS Před 8 měsíci +1

    A lego movie without imagination is like earth without the atmosphere. Everything dies on the inside.

  • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
    @ShockwaveFPSStudios Před 8 měsíci +1

    Before the LEGO Movie 2 came out I was hyped, and when I did see it I loved it as much as Emmet Brickowski did. Looking back, I’m now starting to doubt if the movie was truly awesome, which is something Rex Dangerfest would felt.

  • @Sketch105
    @Sketch105 Před 8 měsíci +6

    My favorite part is the Velociraptor growling with the subtitles “I HATE MONDAYS”. Other than that it was just whelming.

  • @Knockknoc
    @Knockknoc Před 3 měsíci

    If u think about it , in first three movies , main charecter ends up teaming up with the villian

  • @fisheyefilms2512
    @fisheyefilms2512 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Have you forgotten? ''Everything is awesome!''

  • @gaybot8375
    @gaybot8375 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This was one of the rare films I didn't watch to the end. I barely even remember it. This and Secret Life Of Pets 2 were very dull.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The second one was just pandering to the “ima nerd too xD” types who collect funko pops

  • @horriblypink
    @horriblypink Před 7 měsíci

    They should have just made another Bionicle movie along with proper re releases of the toys to go with it. Even though Bionicle the series is over there was still more to be done, there are many parts of the Bionicle story that were in the well loved books and comics that didn't get a theatrical release. They could have made at least another full Trilogy to tie things up, but even one movie wouldn't have hurt. It would have done much better than The Lego Movie 2 even if nobody had seen the previous four movies.

  • @zsasha2004
    @zsasha2004 Před 8 měsíci

    I never even realised that the second one came out at all

  • @jdmarsh91
    @jdmarsh91 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Not surprising that Warner Bros ended up being the issue

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Sony should let PHIL LORD and CHRIS MILLER in charge of their Marvel Cinematic Universe
    They can save it from AVI ARAD, just like they did with SPIDER-VERSE

  • @dimwarlock
    @dimwarlock Před 3 měsíci +1

    I never connected with the Lego Movie, in my eyes, it became a tale about cosmic horror and lack of freedom when they showed that humans had the last word over the imaginative worlds, which made me depressed over the reality of animation and videogame studios.
    Lego Batman was it's own world, just animated diferent than any Batman content I've ever wathed, so that's the good one for me.

  • @-Poka-
    @-Poka- Před 8 měsíci +1

    I didn't know there's a second Lego movie

  • @StUCaboose
    @StUCaboose Před 8 měsíci +6

    I like to think the second movie failed because they named it "The Second Part" instead of "Step 2"

  • @UncleKnee
    @UncleKnee Před 3 měsíci +1

    im flabbergasted about how so little people understand the real plot of the movie

    • @menmonstersmachines
      @menmonstersmachines Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I'm finding that out myself. It's like people just watch reviews about movies and take the person's word for it.

    • @UncleKnee
      @UncleKnee Před 2 měsíci

      @@menmonstersmachines i watched thr first movie when i was like 12 and i didnt get it, i watched it recently again high asf and i was mind blown

  • @EdWedgie
    @EdWedgie Před 8 měsíci +1

    I went to see the first one and loved it, I didn’t even hear of a second one coming out lol crazy