My Neighbor Karen realizing we just had a survey done and she bought me a fence.

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  • čas přidán 16. 12. 2021
  • Catch up with the entire story! 90+ more incidents with the same neighbor. Cops, more poor behavior, and even some obviously unrelated vandalism.
    • My Neighbor Karen
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    My neighbors built a fence. I told them when they were doing it that they were probably over the property line and that they should have a survey done. I basically got the finger and was told to spend my own money. So I had one done. Initially they thought it was part of my home improvement project and we're cheering the surveyors along. Then you can see just about the moment they realize that they are about to pay rent on a fence they put on my property.
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  • @wpistol
    @wpistol Před 2 lety +5882

    I was in process of buying my dream home and during the process the question of having it surveyed came up. The house was surveyed just 3 years ago and "supposedly" didn't need to be redone. I said no and wanted it surveyed again. Apparently, the neighbor to the west of me was related to the survey company and for the last several house sales, they falsified the surveys. The crew I had was from out of town as I was doing a VA loan and the VA chose them. (Luckily)
    End of story, her fence was 25 feet over on the north and 35 feet over on the south. She flipped poop, screamed and yelled and was a total pain to the survey crew to the point they called the police. She threatened them with death and I had it recorded. Her husband had to come talk things down. She was charged with disturbing the peace. A gazebo with hottub, fence and 20 trees had to be cut down at her cost. A new 6 foot high privacy fence went up and I now own .49 of an acre or 1/4 of the block I am on. Needless to say, I have a huge yard now and a beautiful backyard. Her gazebo is still sitting in her much smaller yard.
    I kept finding trash just on the inside of my fence so I gathered she was still at it so I put the security camera on it and after multiple acts, reported her and gave the police the video and she was fined.
    That finally put her over the edge. She freaked out so bad that her husband kicked her out, got divorced and he and I have beers occasionally. We're both much happier.

    • @brettsalter3300
      @brettsalter3300 Před 2 lety +264

      A happy end to what sounds truly unpleasant situation mate. Some people make their own misery, when there is already enough in the world to deal with.

    • @pallmall5495
      @pallmall5495 Před 2 lety +3

      Ever notice it is usually the woman that starts all the crap?Not always,as I have met some real douche bag male homeowners,but the ladies seem to feel emboldened.

    • @prodigalpriest
      @prodigalpriest Před 2 lety

      Good on the husband for ditching the witch. 👍

    • @punknhead23
      @punknhead23 Před 2 lety +63

      Why would you have 20 trees cut down?

    • @haider7866
      @haider7866 Před 2 lety +200

      @@punknhead23 because the trees didnt want to pay rent so they had to go

  • @chriscanterbury8647
    @chriscanterbury8647 Před 2 lety +10326

    From a fence contactor, you need to have her move the fence onto her property otherwise after 10 years she can legally claim that as her property. File all the paperwork needed to make her move it immediately
    Edit: for all you law students out there it's a possibility they can claim adverse possession. As stated 3.7 million times in the comments the laws vary from state to state or depending on the judge. You need to get a property survey and call local code enforcement and in my experience they will give them a letter to move it within 14 days. DO NOT CUT THE FENCE or pow pow them with buckshot which was suggested in the comments as that will only land you in jail or with a ticket for destruction of property. It's code enforcements job to handle those issues

    • @chrismckenna4689
      @chrismckenna4689 Před 2 lety +351

      Probably not. Adverse possession laws vary, but usually is closer to twenty years. It has to be open, notorious, and hostile, which in most jurisdiction generally requires more than a misplaced fence.

    • @tubesurfer4331
      @tubesurfer4331 Před 2 lety +186

      So i can buy a plot of land and enclose the adjacent plot with a fence and of the owner doest realize of say anything after 10 years it's now my property?

    • @rllr1117
      @rllr1117 Před 2 lety +101

      It's more complicated then that. But it's a small factor

    • @BoltRM
      @BoltRM Před 2 lety +157

      Best to check with the local agencies to be sure.

    • @reggievangleason9511
      @reggievangleason9511 Před 2 lety +284

      Absolutely, do not let hate-filled crazies define the line. Time to have proper fence installed on proper property line?

  • @billludy4482
    @billludy4482 Před 2 lety +442

    Had a neighbor bitching about our clothes line strung between two trees on what she said was her property. She went and hired a survey crew. Then, even though our association charter says that only the HOA could commission a survey, for whatever reason, the HOA decided they would honor her survey. Well, she not only lost the two trees, but an additional three feet of property line as well. Never spoke to us again.

    • @andsoitbegins464
      @andsoitbegins464 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Good riddance to bad rubbish! lol

    • @DiscipleofHim
      @DiscipleofHim Před 2 měsíci +4

      And you kept the clothesline.

    • @elizabethfarrar2515
      @elizabethfarrar2515 Před měsícem +1

      Careful what you ask for.

    • @zack6892
      @zack6892 Před měsícem +3

      Why are people so petty. Could have been shared trees and have a neighbor who looks after your property when you're away now an enemy. I just don't get it.

  • @joesaotome7572
    @joesaotome7572 Před 2 lety +1410

    There was a guy who owned the properties on either side of the house I grew up in. My family butted heads with him on several occasions, and he lost every time. The last time he tried to pull something he 'hired' a surveyor (a known buddy of his) to survey the property lines. The new lines cut six feet inside on both sides of our property. Mom and Dad knew it was BS cause they had had the property done years prior and had it staked. They didn't fight over it at the time because:
    1. They knew he was planning on building a new brick house.
    2. The guy had already laid out a foundation of cinder-blocks that butted one inch from our property line (Dad had told him as such when he and his buddies started).
    3. My parents were both big on letting a person hoist themselves on their own petard.
    Well, the guy built his fancy new red brick house and smugly gloated about it. My parents then paid to have the city come out and do a survey. His brand new red brick house now sat exactly 6 inches over our property line. He had two choices, tear down the house.. or pay my parents for a one-foot wide strip of our property and pay for all the legal refiling fees. He screamed. He. cussed. He threatened. He paid.

    • @randallsears1253
      @randallsears1253 Před 2 lety +88

      ...and with that 'his petard was hoisted!' Well played!

    • @michael198427
      @michael198427 Před 2 lety +9

      Woww👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @rahla53
      @rahla53 Před 2 lety +39

      Yeah, it is not about the amount of inches or yards, but it is about the principle, why should we let them do that? I had a problem like that, my friend said, "you are not going to fight for few inches, are you? Well, why not? :>(

    • @davecozzi9721
      @davecozzi9721 Před 2 lety +24

      Dude, you win for just for using the word petard. I always say "you just s#it and stepped back in it". Glad it worked out for you.

    • @karyndewit193
      @karyndewit193 Před rokem +11

      I wouldn’t have wanted something on my property so I would have called the city beforehand.

  • @dirtwhisperer658
    @dirtwhisperer658 Před 2 lety +2986

    Years ago we bought a house and it had a very old beautiful Azalea bush in the side yard. Some new neighbors moved in and the "Karen" that lived in the house was ALWAYS outside in the yard walking around with a 16oz. budweiser. She hated the azalea bush and was constantly complaining that is was coming over to her yard etc, etc. I told her I could trim it but it would make it square looking on her side or uneven. One day I came home from work and she was out there with a handsaw and cut it off at ground level. I could not believe she did that and I told her so but I didn't engage in a big argument with a drunk. What I did do was go call a surveyor who came out and noted that her fence was 2.5 feet into my yard up near the azalea bush and 6ft into my yard to the far rear of the property. So basically the azalea bush was completely in my yard. I showed her husband the survey when I saw him outside and he asked me what I planned to do. I told him me and my brother were moving the fence over to the CORRECT property line this Saturday and that is exactly what we did. We started really early and had the new fence posts in the ground by the time the "Karen" came outside with her beer. Man the look on her face when she realized that all the bushes she planted along the fence were now in my yard I will never forget. Me and my brother got an earful for the rest of the day as we moved the 8ft. panels over but it was worth it.

    • @coolchoicebro
      @coolchoicebro Před 2 lety +61

      Bitch should've left ur plant alone.

    • @DonaldDump2024
      @DonaldDump2024 Před 2 lety +128

      Jeez, good win for you but why not make her move their fence? They destroyed your azalea and then you did them a huge favor by moving the fence for them all while listening to her bitching. You are being too good to a neighbor like that.

    • @dirtwhisperer658
      @dirtwhisperer658 Před 2 lety +101

      @@DonaldDump2024 Ya technically you are correct. But at the time I just wanted to get it done and nobody knew who actually built the fence or who owned the fence if that makes sense. 1 neighbor told me that the guy I bought the house from put up that fence. This is usually how these property line fights start. Anyway I got along OK with her husband and didn't want to cause a long drawn out civil court thing so I just did it myself and it only took 1 weekend.

    • @TheBootyWrangler
      @TheBootyWrangler Před 2 lety +49

      @@DonaldDump2024 because it’s a good excuse to get out of the house and work on a fence

    • @bettydonahue3961
      @bettydonahue3961 Před 2 lety +14

      Awwwwwww,,LOL ,HAHAHAHA, GOOD FOR YOU,,,DAM ALL THE KAREN

  • @h.s.thompsonduke8105
    @h.s.thompsonduke8105 Před 2 lety +654

    I had a jerk neighbor make a big fuss over a fence we had installed. Neighbors from hell. Well they called the police about it so I hired a surveyor to make them happy. Turned out their driveway was fourteen inches onto my property and encroached the full length. So I made them bring in a paving contractor with a carbide wheel to remove 130' of 14" of driveway.
    Karma is a biztch.

    • @channelview8854
      @channelview8854 Před 2 lety +12

      Weren't there any set back requirements so you could force removal of an additional six feet or so? That would have been fun to watch!

    • @nairbyad7188
      @nairbyad7188 Před 2 lety +8

      that's funny!

    • @alanaldpal950
      @alanaldpal950 Před 2 lety +12

      Karma may be a bitch but sounds like you were one as well? Unless there is more to the story than them whining about a fence

    • @dannydonnelly8345
      @dannydonnelly8345 Před 2 lety

      👍

    • @Starry_Night_Sky7455
      @Starry_Night_Sky7455 Před 2 lety +8

      😄😅🤣😂 Ouch! That was fair. Fair fair fair. Neighborly. Have a nice day.

  • @mctrollin4109
    @mctrollin4109 Před 2 lety +184

    My last land lord was in constant dispute with with our neighbors because they didn't like that he was renting his house out. When he was renovating the basement apartment due some water damage they tried to get the town Municipality to shut down the construction claiming it was to noisy. So we had a shared driveway they had there side and we had ours. He tells us one day that he is pretty sure he owns most of the driveway. Next thing we know he is getting a survey done to confirm and when it's done he had a fence installed across the driveway dividing the sides. They barely had enough space to get all four wheels on their drive way meanwhile we had enough space for two vehicles. It was great.

  • @Gman6755
    @Gman6755 Před 2 lety +772

    Pays to be a good neighbor. A few years back my next door neighbor went all in on a fancy landscaping job complete with concrete and railroad ties with the works. He spent thousands on it. He came to me a few months later and told me he had the property surveyed in preparation for sale and was told his new landscaping project was 6 inches over onto my property. We were both into good French wines so I told him to go down to his cellar and grab a bottle of 1982 Bordeaux and we would discuss it. I gave him the 6 inches at no charge. His lawyer drew up the paper and I signed it. Now had he been a neighbor like the one in this video it for sure would have been a different story. It pays to be a good neighbor..

    • @mikealfieri641
      @mikealfieri641 Před 2 lety +130

      I gave my neighbor 6 inches once.

    • @sergiougalde1110
      @sergiougalde1110 Před 2 lety +19

      @@mikealfieri641 lol

    • @GrassLogic
      @GrassLogic Před 2 lety +53

      @@mikealfieri641 in installments 🤣

    • @mikealfieri641
      @mikealfieri641 Před 2 lety +39

      @@GrassLogic 3 INSTALLMENTS, MAYBE 4 lol

    • @CitizynKing
      @CitizynKing Před 2 lety +32

      Seriously. Being rude to the people you live around is like shitting where you eat. If there's anyone you want a good relationship with, it's the people who can affect you while you're in the sanctuary of your home.

  • @watztheuse
    @watztheuse Před 2 lety +2435

    Damn. As a retired deck builder, I would not stand on that deck. Also who the hell runs a fence as crooked as a politician?

    • @watztheuse
      @watztheuse Před 2 lety +6

      @@redzot That deck looks SKETCHY as you know what. Is it the camera, or is the deck tilting towards the house?

    • @silverpurkat
      @silverpurkat Před 2 lety +122

      My husband is in construction for over 30 years and has an OCD. The fence would have flipped his lid. 😳

    • @Perurikun
      @Perurikun Před 2 lety +69

      @@redzot that fence is anything but a straight line.

    • @colderman
      @colderman Před 2 lety +65

      ... idk shit about building decks but since u mentioned it does look as if that one corner isnt supported.

    • @watztheuse
      @watztheuse Před 2 lety

      @@silverpurkat Same here.

  • @SPQR-Z
    @SPQR-Z Před 2 lety +3190

    My Asshole neighbor pulled up the survey stakes I just had put in between our property in preparation to have fence put in. When the fence people couldn’t find the stakes we measured and put the fence in. It ended up being off 8 inches and he promptly sued me to move it. I was furious but resurveyed and moved the fence. Then several months later I was clearing brush and found a vent pipe sticking up out of the ground 10 feet inside my property. It was his septic tank and drain field 10-12 ft on my property. Had my lawyer right him a letter to move the entire septic system as well as sue his dumbass for additional survey and fence cost, about 25 grand in total. I easily could have won in court so he settled with the mediator and he was ordered to move the septic and reimburse me for damages with the survey/fence. He came over and was crying and begging me to let him off and somehow work it out. Too late. Soon after they sold the house and moved after fixing everything and paying us with proceeds from the house sale. I found out from the new buyers that it was not disclosed that the basement had a serious moisture issue. I knew the basement flooded because I caught that A-hole running a sump pump and draining the water on my side. Told the buyers the seller knew full well the basement flooded. Gave their lawyer a written deposition. Another lawsuit. More crying. Best policy: Be nice and fair to your neighbors because it’s not worth finding out your neighbor is an even bigger vindictive A-hole then you are

    • @dorothyharp9275
      @dorothyharp9275 Před 2 lety +70

      Sweet

    • @Calvinboy188
      @Calvinboy188 Před 2 lety +130

      This was a beautiful story....i love a happy ending🤣😂🤣.....cheers to yu!

    • @d33rex64
      @d33rex64 Před 2 lety +110

      I used to think your neighbor would have learned a lesson from this, but in the last few years I’ve been reminded that 50% of the population are mindless drones. Glad it worked out for you though. You’re not an asshole that guy deserved every bit.

    • @Mazzaaaaman
      @Mazzaaaaman Před 2 lety +25

      Love it.

    • @retrodave3000
      @retrodave3000 Před 2 lety +68

      I commend you on your pettiness.

  • @tiggersdad6878
    @tiggersdad6878 Před 2 lety +148

    I'm retired now but when I was about 10, the city I grew up in bought a vacant lot on the back side of our house with plans to put the new fire station there. My dad was a civil engineer and he was unhappy about the project but couldn't do much about it. As the new fire station neared completion, dad got wind that the city was going to move the large siren from behind the school (1/4 mile away) to the new site which was not far outside our kitchen window. He brought home a surveyors transit one day and with me holding this and that, he marked the property line between the lots. The cities new fire station was about 7 inches too lose to our property than the city codes permitted. He told the city manager keep the siren where it was or move their building. I believe that siren is still up there behind the school.

  • @SonoftheWars
    @SonoftheWars Před 2 lety +127

    People who live angry and think they can talk to people however they want make life so much harder for those of us who were taught the golden rule.

    • @1974Qball
      @1974Qball Před rokem +2

      Buy a giant fan and have a load of pig sh*t delivered.

    • @AccuracySpeaks
      @AccuracySpeaks Před 3 měsíci

      For sure! It is plainly obvious that the bitch in the video here is not playing with a full deck! Ignorant people can make life hell for the rest of us! I have a friend of mine who works for the power company where I live, and he tells me about all of the idiots who cuss him out every day for trimming the right-of-way for the powerlines, I couldn't imagine having to deal with those sorts of idiots represented in the above video!

    • @cathryncampbell8555
      @cathryncampbell8555 Před 2 měsíci

      "People who live angry." Beautifully written! So true. We should all follow the Golden Rule.

  • @spaceballs44
    @spaceballs44 Před 2 lety +2463

    I feel sorry for the people that will have to live with her in an assisted living facility.

    • @prosperityinmotion7665
      @prosperityinmotion7665 Před 2 lety +84

      You can say that again. I have siblings who work in those assisted-living places and the h*ll they go through with these bitter and hateful humans are beyond the realm of scary! Some seem to weaponize their "supposed dementia" just to be spiteful.

    • @seabournewolf2298
      @seabournewolf2298 Před 2 lety +12

      Bet you don’t see how your the same

    • @Fwago1
      @Fwago1 Před 2 lety +7

      @@seabournewolf2298 Bet you don't either.

    • @shines7232
      @shines7232 Před 2 lety +4

      Lol I was thinking exact thing about HIM!! He gave you a heart. Omg this guy is sick he desperately needed that comment. Lol.

    • @alexandersears8538
      @alexandersears8538 Před 2 lety +3

      Probably won't be long. Senior citizens in places like that have the same patience as a cell mate in jail. She will get on someone's bad side quick and someone will poison her coffee.

  • @Sophesi
    @Sophesi Před 2 lety +699

    Our neighbor gave us a piece of their property for free, that was fenced into our parcel back in the day, but it belonged to them. Since they didn't want to take care of it, they just gave it to us. We had to go through a process with the county that we of course paid for and it was win, win for both of us. Truly great neighbors, quiet, respectful, kind & take care of our pets if we are away we do the same for them

    • @Alan_Mac
      @Alan_Mac Před 2 lety +61

      Perfect example of good neighbours!

    • @lreavis2
      @lreavis2 Před 2 lety +8

      Good neighbors are a blessing. I lucked out with my neighbors too. The man we bought the house from was hated by all so the bar was set really low for us.

    • @TheeLynnChase
      @TheeLynnChase Před 2 lety +13

      Now THAT'S a GREAT story!

    • @altha-rf1et
      @altha-rf1et Před 2 lety +12

      we have 35 acres the neighbor was not sure where the fence line is so told him just put it down every thing will be OK , I could not afford to help him with the cost of the fence, but I did help him put it down digging the holes for him with post hole diggers,,, we made a road on each side of the fence to help keep it clean and to get around the property

    • @tommysaulter9171
      @tommysaulter9171 Před 2 lety +15

      I had a similar scenario with my neighbor. It created a lot of tension until the wooden fence needed replacement. By that time, my neighbor and I had become pretty good friends. He approached me one day, asking my opinion on whether that fence was even necessary any more... It was mutually decided we really didn’t need and/or want the fence anymore. I ended up with a pair of “guard dogs” that protect my place as well and I don’t even need to pay for vet bills or dog food...!!!

  • @BelleEFlopp-nk5xe
    @BelleEFlopp-nk5xe Před rokem +69

    I love my neighbors 😂 We even have a neighborhood nickname,”Gator Nation,” in loo of our JD Gator used to travel between properties (we pick up a neighbor with a bad hip to bring to our place for beer, cornhole, cards). While mowing, we help each other out where our property lines meet ( 3 neighbors butt up against our property). We let everyone dump their grass clippings at the edge our property/field. Large items need burned? Throw it on our big burn pile! Blackberry bush growing on their side? Grab some to eat! We all hang out every weekend and all the kids play almost everyday. We have a hawk nest so naturally, a hawk took one of chickens. One of our neighbors immediately bought us a fake owl to stake on the coop. We housed a neighbors pony on our property for a year for them. We share garden crop. My husband takes care of everyone’s electrical needs. One neighbor does all our computer and Wi-Fi needs. The last few years, we have all been discussing how we purchase the farm fields behind our properties…we want a big fishing pond, Christmas tree farm, and dirt bike/4wheeler path. Even if we wanted a different house, we wouldn’t move because they are all family to us.

    • @karenvolk
      @karenvolk Před 2 měsíci +2

      Love this!

    • @tinagoodman7256
      @tinagoodman7256 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Love this! Years ago, I had worked 3rd shift the night before and woke up to big trucks not going anywhere. They were bringing my neighbors double wide in. Watched, got some clothes on and went outside. Went outside like a Karen but with a smile when I asked who's in charge of this operation. I asked him to walk to the edge of my yard and second driveway. Explained how he could maneuver over the bottom of my property and ease getting across the narrow bridge without having to back up 57 times lol. He thought I was coming to chew him out. I just wanted my neighbors to get in their home before Christmas. Next day I came in to 2 beautiful plants on my front porch which I still have! It felt good!

    • @Gman6755
      @Gman6755 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Wish I was your neighbor! That is the way it should be.

    • @elizabethfarrar2515
      @elizabethfarrar2515 Před měsícem +3

      What you have is a community, not a neighborhood. Blessed!

    • @jimmercer2581
      @jimmercer2581 Před měsícem

      Ahhh, the Golden Rule really works ! Nice benefits too !

  • @jodyhuneycutt
    @jodyhuneycutt Před 2 lety +114

    I had a neighbor about 30 years ago whose wife wanted to expand their yard at the expense of mine. He did this by digging up and moving the front property pin we shared about 4' over onto my side of the actual property line. I became aware of this because I had actually surveyed my property when I bought it and it was cut off a larger tract, before he bought his portion of the tract and there was a large tree , about 50' back from the pin in question, sitting by itself near the property line, ad the tree was completely on my side. After he moved the pin, if you sighted from the front pin location to a utility pole about 250' back that was on the property line, the tree was now on his side of the line.
    My street frontage was curved and there was a large hedge along the front property line and you could not see from one front pin to the other because of the hedge, so this made noticing the moved pin more difficult. However, unbeknownst to my neighbor, when I had surveyed the property lines of my property, I had put in a witness pin in the middle of my front yard, from which I could see both front pins, and, of course, I had recorded the angle between the front pins from this witness pin and the distances to each. So, I set up my theolodite on the witness pin, sighted the unmoved pin on the opposite side of the property, turned the recorded angle, and measured the distance to where the pin I shared with the neighbor should have been, and replaced the moved pin in the correct location. Then, when I got some help from my son, we marked the correct property line location between me and the neighbor, by putting iron pins in every 25' along the entire 900' common property line, driving the pins down so that only about 1/4" was visible above the 6" diameter, 18" deep concrete cylinder we poured around each of them. I had no more problems with this neighbor about the location of the property line. So, Smiths, you lose.

    • @jodyhuneycutt
      @jodyhuneycutt Před 2 lety +7

      @@bigrick7108 Actually, as I said in the comment, it was a 6" diameter cylinder, which put only a 3" half-circle on their side of the property line; and besides that, there is a law in my state which allows marking the property line location with permanent markers of a reasonable size to be on both sides of the actual property line location. That is pretty common in all U.S. states.

    • @bigrick7108
      @bigrick7108 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jodyhuneycutt I have never heard of that law. Probably because it isn't feasible in the Northeast where the concrete would heave from frost.

    • @lylecampbell9036
      @lylecampbell9036 Před 2 měsíci

      BS

    • @beckyhoffman4885
      @beckyhoffman4885 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I've never heard of a witness pin. Interesting

  • @pc4189
    @pc4189 Před 2 lety +868

    wow. glad they don't live next to me. My dad had a similar issue with a bad neighbour when I was a kid. Guy was putting up an 8 ft high 110 ft long chainlink fence. Dad tried to tell him the placement didn't look right. Got told to basically f-off. Dad waited until the entire fence was done, including cement for the posts, then dad showed the guy the surveyor property line stakes (those metal ones they put in the ground), Guy had to remove the entire fence including having to remove the cement posts and re-sod that whole part of the property line. They never bothered to put up a replacement fence. Cost him thousands $$.

    • @Nessal83
      @Nessal83 Před 2 lety +67

      Hahah love stories like this. Karma.

    • @ohioitis200
      @ohioitis200 Před 2 lety +61

      It amazes me that a fence company would do that big of a job without seeing a survey.

    • @willbass2869
      @willbass2869 Před 2 lety +26

      Revenge best served cold. Delicious.

    • @judybritt6288
      @judybritt6288 Před 2 lety +30

      @@ohioitis200 Yes, but, some companies do cut corners, or just make mistakes.
      I don't know how the law reads, but it's probably the homeowner who bears the responsibility of making sure that the information they receive is correct.
      If a fence company messes up, the homeowner could sue them. But it would just be easier and cheaper in the long run for the homeowner to double check and make sure that the information they had was correct.

    • @chuckstith838
      @chuckstith838 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ohioitis200 the fence company gets paid either way. They don't care

  • @mikegroat7732
    @mikegroat7732 Před 2 lety +1191

    I have been a land surveyor in Michigan for over 35 years, these are the most fun jobs!!!!!!! We don't have a dog in the fight, and get to witness humanity at its finest! Those guys did great! They stayed calm, tried to explain, and did their job!

    • @1mikewalsh
      @1mikewalsh Před 2 lety +24

      One of you got my Dad an extra 40foot of corner lot footage! The neighbor put a fence up and stopped mowing their yard years before and my dad started doing it. Come time to sell a land survey (who pointed ownership out to Dad) and a court hearing and he owned it.

    • @SoloClone
      @SoloClone Před 2 lety +1

      This is my state to, and as a land owner, it's just wow sometimes here, just wow hahahaha

    • @chickey333
      @chickey333 Před 2 lety +5

      Mr. Groat I presume... How goes the landfill certification business these days? Remembering interesting times back in the C&C days. :)

    • @mikegroat7732
      @mikegroat7732 Před 2 lety +4

      @@chickey333 i got cut out of that. Lol. Who is this?

    • @chickey333
      @chickey333 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mikegroat7732 Denny STS

  • @wetnoodle1
    @wetnoodle1 Před 2 lety +37

    Unrelated but I caught a neighbor with an extension cord plugged into my shed and running over into his house to run a window ac unit and whatever else. When I seen it I grabbed my wire cutters and went over to the property line, cut the cord off and kept the piece on my side. Also turned power off to the shed when I'm not in there.

  • @danl.2220
    @danl.2220 Před 2 lety +54

    I had a neighbor when I moved into my house I was in the side yard doing some lawn mowing and there was a row of rose of sharon trees on that far side. I was push mowing. Of course when I got to that side the neighbor had to come out and inform me that 4 of the rose of sharon's were his and the previous owner of my house had given him those because he(the previous owner) had inadvertently planted them on this guys yard. I knew it was going to be one of those people...so I hired a survey crew to come out and pin my boundaries...I bought fencing and started to put up a fence and come to find out that I actually owned 10ft into this guys yard. He didnt say a word as I dug the fencepost holes in his yard (or what he told me was his yard). And all Rose of Sharons were mine...lol. It ended up being one of those great silent in your F'n face moments.

    • @joefitzgeraldify
      @joefitzgeraldify Před rokem +2

      Thanks for clarifying about the type of mowing you were doing.

    • @danl.2220
      @danl.2220 Před rokem

      @@joefitzgeraldify lol, the story's always in the details.

    • @travelinman70
      @travelinman70 Před rokem

      you're such a Karen

  • @ramiusrosin8363
    @ramiusrosin8363 Před 2 lety +877

    I was involved in a similar situation as a fence builder. I started building the fence along the line designated by the customer only to have the neighbor raise hell that I was building it on her property. I stopped building it and the customer got a survey. I ended up builing the fence about 3 feet further towards the neighbour's house as the survey determined the actual property line. Neighbors were not happy but they learned to keep their mouths shut.

    • @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154
      @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 Před 2 lety +13

      Hahaha.....good one

    • @benjaminsorenson
      @benjaminsorenson Před 2 lety +14

      This is why I'm in favour of surveys being done every 3 years at a minimum just to keep everyone honest.

    • @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154
      @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 Před 2 lety +21

      @@benjaminsorenson That's crazy. Absolutely no need.
      Any grievance can be settled with one current survey.

    • @benjaminsorenson
      @benjaminsorenson Před 2 lety +5

      @@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 Nah, it's better to keep things as current as possible.

    • @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154
      @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 Před 2 lety +26

      @@benjaminsorenson I owned a home in Central Florida for 30 years. Found and uncovered the original marker pins after moving in. Also was gifted a copy of the original survey from 10 years before. Pulled permits for roof, driveway, utility shed, underground electric, service upgrade, and fence.
      Never had a survey done.
      You would have had me do 10 surveys. That's a lot of nonsensical wasted money.

  • @DJ-fn3jm
    @DJ-fn3jm Před 2 lety +228

    I have a nightmare neighbor like that. When I bought the house and had the property surveyed their part of their driveway was on my property. I told them and they told me tough. I was going to let it go and just have them acknowledge it in writing. Then one snowy day they drove their cars across my lawn because someone in their house parked at the end of the driveway and the rest of them needed to go to work. That's when I had someone cut out the part of the driveway and I built a knee wall. AND planted holly along the property line.

    • @graxmccoar8678
      @graxmccoar8678 Před 2 lety +6

      Holly, yes : - )

    • @philthyphil1017
      @philthyphil1017 Před 2 lety +2

      What is Holly? Forgive me I probably already know I just can't picture what it is that you did along with the small wall

    • @DJ-fn3jm
      @DJ-fn3jm Před 2 lety +6

      @@philthyphil1017 Holly bushes. They have pointy leaves and get red berries in the fall that last through winter. It is used for Christmas decorations.

    • @dingotopruc9642
      @dingotopruc9642 Před 2 lety +6

      @@philthyphil1017 The leaves are prickly, it makes an impenetrable barrier and the leaves falling on the ground in the fall keep their pointy ends. It's like a cactus fence.

  • @jerryclleung
    @jerryclleung Před 2 lety +101

    First rule, ALWAYS do things the right way…
    Had my property surveyed 2 years ago, because I was planning to put up a fence. Come to realize, neighbor on the left was 2’ into my property in the back. I mentioned this to her after showing her the survey. She moved her fence within 2 weeks, I was shocked, because I wasn’t expecting it to be so quick. I brought it up to her attention, saying you didn’t need to move it that quickly, her reply was, I ALWAYS play by the rule, GOD bless her.
    Now her neighbor behind her, corners my left rear property, he’s 2’ over my property and about 5” deep. Now he’s gonna be my pain in the ass… sigh

  • @ron.v
    @ron.v Před 3 měsíci +16

    Just be sure the survey team you hire is skilled enough to know when they've made a mistake. My former property had been surveyed twice by two different survey companies. Both agreed. My neighbors and I were cool with the results. Along came another survey company hired by a business in the neighborhood. They wanted to re-survey beginning with my property and my next door neighbor so that they could check it against probate records for the original 40-acre subdivision.
    My property was first on their list. They immediately told me my entire driveway was on my neighbor's property. I asked if they knew my property had been surveyed twice already and the two previous survey companies disagreed with them. I showed them my deed and accompanying survey. The deed included proofs going back over 100 years. This new survey company rechecked their measurements. They returned to let me know they had made a mistake. They could confirm that my original survey was correct. I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't challenged them?

  • @olencone4005
    @olencone4005 Před 2 lety +628

    When I was a teen, my parents had a neighbor who tried this sort of stunt THREE times -- twice to try and steal a slice of our yard for himself (the first time he claimed his property line extended ten feet into our yard... the second time was a few years later for three feet, which I think was just so he could steal my Mom's pineapple garden without having to sneak into our yard at 3am like he usually did... 🤨). The third one was just to be petty (he complained to the county that our front fence was too close to the road and paid for a resurvey, hoping to clip some of our front lawn)... our fence was spot on tho, so I guess the surveyors had some nice income from him haha!
    Many years later, we also had a church try to dump some unused and overgrown property on us (on the opposite side of the lot from the greedy neighbor) because they didn't want to bring it up to code. They claimed the survey was off and that we were actually the owners of most of their mess. While the idea of extending our property fifteen feet was appealing, the cost to clean up that little stretch wasn't. That fifteen foot stretch was packed with trees that were too close to our fence and completely overgrown with weeds and underbrush. In the end, we politely refuted the church's claim and (after they declined to pay for a survey that they knew would confirm what we were saying) they wound up being forced by the county to do a fair bit of expensive work, with the pastor hatefully glaring at us like a demon the whole while.
    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess 🤣

    • @travelsouthafrica5048
      @travelsouthafrica5048 Před 2 lety +23

      with the value of land being what it is , i would have taken the land , but first they would sign a contract that they agree fully that the land is mine , no taking it back after I cleaned it up
      you know you can't trust these "christians" they are all a bunch of sinners , says so in the bible

    • @Starry_Night_Sky7455
      @Starry_Night_Sky7455 Před 2 lety +30

      A church, eh. 😇 Such high and mighty morals they seemed not to have. 😈

    • @LordIronfist
      @LordIronfist Před 2 lety +4

      If unaware or lazy neighbors ignore encroachments for long enough, the theft can become legal or technically unimpeachable as an easement, which is great when it works in favor of anything that would screw over people like this angry but legally incompetent next door neighbor caricature that somehow was brought to life from the sitcom script that it hails from. Though, if I were yanked into this real life universe from the ridiculous, inverse twilight zone skew that all laws in sitcoms require in order to exist at all... I also might sound this bitter and angry

    • @cliffords.8341
      @cliffords.8341 Před 2 lety +3

      @@travelsouthafrica5048 In their minds and beliefs, all they have to do is ask for forgiveness for their sins and they will be forgiven. I'd like to see their faces when there's no God to forgive them. 😁

    • @xoxoxo5286
      @xoxoxo5286 Před 2 lety +4

      Pineapple garden you say?

  • @j22mattones
    @j22mattones Před 2 lety +538

    My neighbor has been pushing the boundaries of the property lines on all sides of his property. The house on the other side of him has sold 2x in the last 10 years because of him. He and I have had 1 physical altercation where he swung a hatchet at me, I deflected it, wrestled him to the ground and broke his ribs through pain compliance techniques I learned in the military. Once he was disarmed I got off of him, the cops were called and we were both going to press charges on each other, but I gave him the opportunity, if you press charges against me I will against you, but it's your call and you could be facing attempted murder charges, your call. Needless to say, nobody went to jail, but a couple of month later he had his property surveyed, and his property was smaller on both sides than he thought. He lost about 6' total. He was PISSED!
    KARMA gave him a huge smack across his entitled face. It was glorious.

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese Před 2 lety +24

      So your neighbor tried to kill you. Wow, thought my neighbors were bad.

    • @bmoneygeez
      @bmoneygeez Před 2 lety +1

      Jesus 😂🤣

    • @NJP76
      @NJP76 Před 2 lety +12

      @@GizmoMaltese Sheeesh! I live in a trailer park, and the neighbors around here are not even that bad.

    • @stanleyhape8427
      @stanleyhape8427 Před 2 lety +2

      I had issues with a neighbor as well . Once i prevented him from taking my property he started taking another neighbors property. The property that he took , he did it by mowing it super short. After the neighbor accepted the new line he would move it another couple mower stripes. So far he has moved it about 18 feet. I know this because one of my fence posts is right where the marker is.

    • @Moosetick2002
      @Moosetick2002 Před rokem +1

      @@stanleyhape8427 Or.... that neighbor is "letting" him cut 18 feet of his grass for free.

  • @pikaboubou
    @pikaboubou Před 2 lety +32

    I'm so thankful to have nice neighbors, our property line goes down a slope into what I once assumed was their yard, they told me it's my property but since it's so close to theirs that they would still mow it. I also cut down a few of my dead trees that kept poking at them when they'd run by with the mower, and they were grateful for that. Also, my neighbor hates flowers so I got to go dig up a few huge hydrangeas and peonies out of his yard to keep for myself, and that was essentially free labor for him to remove them but those plants cost a fortune from a nursery so I didn't mind digging them up. Anytime I need help with something all of my neighbors (front, left, right) are there, and I'll buy them chocolate or nice wine as a thank you. I've even had my own car towed out of my own culvert by my neighbors during the winter! They are truly amazing people, and honestly I wish great neighbors on everyone 🙏
    Don't be crotchety, and be generous. Most of the time they will return it in kind ❤ (but some don't, like my last neighbor at my old townhouse. We called her 'frizzy bitch' because she kept calling the HA on us for having friends overnight in the public parking space next to her house claiming it needed to be open when she never had people over... ever... she was a true spinster if I ever met one.)

  • @davidkausch5935
    @davidkausch5935 Před 2 lety +34

    I had a neighbor who started to build a structure that ended up being way over the property line. They had a crew come in when nobody was home and clear out the land and put in footings for a planned concrete pour. I called the original company that did the survey when the property was built. They staked out the line. When the neighbor got home she was screaming about orange stakes running thru her yard. I explained that the stakes showed were the property line was but they started screaming about the company surveying the wrong line, hehehe. So they called the survey company and talked to the owner. Stated that his employees had broken into her house and stolen a number of things. After that she had her kids pull up all the survey markers. I called the company back and told them what she did, and the son of the owner said he will come back and redo because he really wanted to talk to her about something. :) Never had an issue with the neighbors again about property line. it seems that every person that bought the property next to me NEVER had a survey done EVER.

  • @consentofthegoverned5145
    @consentofthegoverned5145 Před 2 lety +2624

    Now take the portions of the fence that are on your property, and make it into some creative, expressive art demonstrating our opinion of them...

    • @WhiteUnicorn82
      @WhiteUnicorn82 Před 2 lety +103

      @Randy Boone That was a tough read. Why did you have your neighbour's pants? That seems odd.
      Actually, I'm not too sure that's what you're saying.

    • @thatdude8247
      @thatdude8247 Před 2 lety +40

      @Randy Boone what?

    • @oscarantoniomoreno5247
      @oscarantoniomoreno5247 Před 2 lety +6

      @@thatdude8247 I had a hard time understanding it too, I got the jist of it but it was a little ambiguous.
      I'm with you though. 👍

    • @mikec886
      @mikec886 Před 2 lety +4

      Eiffel tower

    • @toasteee252
      @toasteee252 Před 2 lety +49

      Seems like he is a christian aphobe and his only goal was to rag on Christianity

  • @tiltingatentropy1215
    @tiltingatentropy1215 Před 2 lety +168

    Years ago my grandparents, who owned a large farm, sold the home place (where my dad grew up) along with an acre or two of property. My grandparents had built a new house elsewhere on the farm. Anyway, the new owner of the old place kept putting gardens and flower beds across their property line which encroached onto the farm. My dad and my grandparents had warned them several times over the years to not do it. After my grandfather passed, my grandmother start selling of plots of land, so my dad and I surveyed. The owner of the home place were hilariously pissed when we drove fenceposts in "their" gardens and flower beds. The people that owned it threatened to go get a shotgun and use it against my dad and I when we informed them we would not be removing the posts/ boundary markers. My dad was about to tear the guy to pieces ( trained fighter and Vietnam vet), when the guy's wife finally came out and diffused the situation. I was maybe 10 at the time, and was scared shitless. Its unbelievable what people who are in the wrong will do to defend the indefensible.

    • @waynesmith6325
      @waynesmith6325 Před rokem +2

      One thing I've learned as I get older/wiser AND from personal experience (My Parents) Most People don't like to admit when they're wrong! My Parents were trained EXPERTS at never admitting fault deflect, deflect, deny deny!! I made it my mission to NOT be like them so IF/WHEN I'm wrong I swallow my pride and admit "Hey I was wrong, I apologize!" With the advent of the internet and information readily at ones finger tips it used to bring me great JOY when my Parents were certain of some fact that I had been disputing and all I have to do is a quick internet search BAM I have the truth Mom and Dad!! Now when I dispute them they're not so adamant about "their" truth...sadly my Father passed away last summer I miss him greatly we were great Friends as Adults!! One of my Dads misunderstandings was he'd get Ray Lewis and Ray Carruth mixed up so we'd be watching a NFL Football game and he'd get pissed because of the Announcer that killed his pregnant girlfriend wasn't in Prison and had a job on TV...I'd have to bring it up on my Computer and show him the difference between the two! I think it took me 2-3 times of showing him this until he dropped it.

  • @RossMalagarie
    @RossMalagarie Před rokem +13

    I love when people get mad for getting caught stealing someone else's property 😂

  • @popcorn8153
    @popcorn8153 Před 2 lety +25

    I understand your pain. Our backyard neighbors were building a retaining wall/fence. They said it could go right on the property line, but my mother was concerned it would damage some arborvitae on our side. She looked into it and in turned out it needed to be offset from the property line 5 feet. Backyard neighbor was pissed and since then never misses a moment to pester us. Draining their pool into our yard, doing loud yardwork with machinery (not just mowing) when we have gatherings, including walking on the other side of the fence facing us to dry their pool cover. The whole side of that retaining wall is covered in weeds, it's not like they take care of it either. Parents put up a fence after 2 years of nonsense. They were angry that our fence had the "ugly side" facing their retaining wall where they never go and cannot see. 🙄

    • @Amanah1111
      @Amanah1111 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Are the neighbors supposed to get ugly side or nice side?

    • @georgejohnson7591
      @georgejohnson7591 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Amanah1111 It probably depends who pays for it

  • @alanpecherer5705
    @alanpecherer5705 Před 2 lety +273

    My brother bought a vineyard, which abutted an old cemetery for part of one side. Just on the other side of the border fence were 5 oak trees. Their crowns were dropping all kinds of detritus on the vineyard and causing damage, plus shading some vines. He mentioned to a neighbor that he'd like to see about getting those trees trimmed. Neighbor takes it upon himself to have the trees completely cut down, as he was partially in the tree biz. Cemetery freaks out, calls the sheriff, bro gets arrested and gets slapped with a demand for like $300K. Eventually he pays the cem about $83K. Some time later, bro has a survey done, turns out the border fence was 15' onto his property, and that the trees were actually his and he could freely cut them down. He actually suspects that there are bodies buried on his property and he's suing the cem for return of the $83K plus disinternment > removal of the bodies (figure about $15K-$20K each) This has been going on for at least 5 years.

    • @konapuppy10
      @konapuppy10 Před 2 lety +21

      Ya gotta keep us posted!!

    • @personalinformation9963
      @personalinformation9963 Před 2 lety +7

      @@konapuppy10 I want to hear about it too-

    • @rahla53
      @rahla53 Před 2 lety +9

      Wow, that is a great story should make into a documentary, :>)

    • @martymaloney1032
      @martymaloney1032 Před 2 lety +3

      Love it!

    • @lynncarden
      @lynncarden Před rokem +4

      Wow. I'D BE SO PISSED OFF ID SUE BIG BIG BIG...FOR ALL THE AGGREVATION AND Trama and the people who grave me dirty looks. Ect.

  • @lostcontrol1981
    @lostcontrol1981 Před 2 lety +808

    We asked my neighbour for years if she wanted to pay 1/2 the cost of replacing the fence between our two homes. It was falling down and needed to be replaced. She swore up and down it was on her property, it was HERS, and we couldn’t touch it. A year later we were hit with a hurricane which blew the fence into my home, smashing the siding and doing thousands of $$$ in damage. Had she agreed to pay 1/2 for the fence, this wouldn’t have h as opened. If she hadn’t sworn up and down that it was HER fence we would have paid for the house damage, assuming the fence was our property. But because she has insisted it was hers, she was responsible for fixing our house plus buying a new fence!!!

    • @redzot
      @redzot  Před 2 lety +20

      NICE!!!!!!

    • @nocoolname32
      @nocoolname32 Před 2 lety +30

      what state do you live in? in most states, what a hurricane, thunderstorm, or tornado blow around is considered an act of God and the owner isn't responsible. what state are you in?

    • @JG-fi9ub
      @JG-fi9ub Před 2 lety +26

      @@nocoolname32 not if it is on record that it is in disrepair and is a hazard or could pose a danger to life or property under the right conditions thats when you have a case otherwise you are correct.

    • @eldangeroso68
      @eldangeroso68 Před 2 lety +7

      Thats just an insurance claim at least.

    • @Larry-tl6vw
      @Larry-tl6vw Před 2 lety +15

      @@redzot In my neighbor a storm blew a tree over on a neighbors house causing damage, the victim tried to get the tree owner to pay…..didn’t happen…..., Act Of God…..State of Pa.

  • @ArchaicHumansWorldwide
    @ArchaicHumansWorldwide Před 2 lety +25

    Learned a bunch from these videos... not just stuff about surveying and fence building but also about dealing with difficult people. This guy is a master and should be a hostage negotiator. Seriously, he kept his cool when I would have mouthed off and made the situation even more difficult.

  • @gnarlock3927
    @gnarlock3927 Před rokem +8

    And now you paint it bright pink to show your neighborly love 💕

  • @Thanatos534
    @Thanatos534 Před 2 lety +558

    Yikes... imagine being married to that. I actually feel bad for the husband.

    • @matts9371
      @matts9371 Před 2 lety +34

      He may have ignored the red flags before making that fatal mistake

    • @madasahatter5514
      @madasahatter5514 Před 2 lety +22

      They are probably well suited!

    • @Foxxorz
      @Foxxorz Před 2 lety

      It's what happens when you accept head from a crazy bitch. A lesson for the rest of us.

    • @BPIII71
      @BPIII71 Před 2 lety +1

      I feel sorry for the plumbers.

    • @d.bruckner3459
      @d.bruckner3459 Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe he's worst but not home .

  • @brianmac1
    @brianmac1 Před 2 lety +188

    I was a surveyor and struck this problem many times in my career. Sometimes, aggrieved neighbors would pull out the boundary markers the moment you left, which is illegal in my country. I used to put in an offset mark and bury it so the work didn't need doing all over again. Some people really are too dumb to own property!

    • @silverforest4682
      @silverforest4682 Před 2 lety +15

      My "neighbor" kept pulling up a marker. They actually used a metal pipe we had to put in their own. I pulled it out. He hasn't done that again. The guy is 97. It's true only the good die young

    • @prodigalpriest
      @prodigalpriest Před 6 měsíci

      And the a**holes seem to live forever.

  • @stephenmorton8017
    @stephenmorton8017 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Robert Frost wrote a great poem about fences. It comes back to me quite often.

  • @WilliamBrinkley45
    @WilliamBrinkley45 Před 2 lety +22

    Something like this happened in my neighborhood and we discovered that the developer had exaggerated all lot sizes….every home was surveyed using the dimensions on paper and that every lot overlapped each other by 2 feet…..we would have sued but the developer had went bankrupt before we figured it out.

  • @stewiegriffin289
    @stewiegriffin289 Před 2 lety +127

    We live on about 100 acres it's a small farm . My one neighbor always mows this 2 acres of land on the side of our barn because it runs to his yard. Been friends with him for years never any issues . He just does it to do. People was saying after ten years if he does this he can claim it. 20 years has gone by not a single word. Last spring I gave him an acre of it. He was jaw dropped. Couldn't believe it. Would have given him all of it but my well is on the other acre and to avoid any future issues with say a new neighbor or whatever I kept that part. Once in awhile good things happen .

    • @valg.3270
      @valg.3270 Před 2 lety +11

      What a nice way to thank your neighbor for mowing that area.

    • @JimBischoff1184
      @JimBischoff1184 Před 5 měsíci +2

      That’s the way you do it ! 😅❤👍

    • @propbraker
      @propbraker Před 3 měsíci +1

      You rock!

  • @theiran
    @theiran Před 2 lety +183

    We went through this at my grandmother's house. Neighbor had the post holes dug and was about start cutting down the bushes.
    I stopped her and said, "did you get a survey done?" She had not.
    Told her she couldn't go any further without a survey.
    So she got one...and found out she was 3 feet over the property line. So she had to fill in the post holes and dig new ones.
    Fence went up. She stopped being a nice neighbor. No big loss.

    • @karyndewit193
      @karyndewit193 Před rokem +9

      At least she listened and did a survey.

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham Před rokem +2

      Well, I guess feel lucky she didn’t out up more of a fight. People are crazy and will fight you even when they’re totally in the wrong.

    • @caseyhughes5313
      @caseyhughes5313 Před 11 měsíci +3

      better to have the holes redug then to have the whole fence rebuilt. some people just cant be reasoned with...😑😑😑

  • @twist-96
    @twist-96 Před 2 lety +5

    My first home purchase required a fence install. I was provided the survey/plat during closing. The property line is clear but some gardenia bushes were planted and her irrigation ran close to those plants right on the border of the property line. Her house came with the irrigation already installed at purchase. Instead of tearing up the plants we both like and potentially damage her irrigation I just put the fence on my side of the bushes, it cost me 4-5’ but no big deal considering. She and I team up to take care of our lawns and the neighbors are jealous. It’s great to be blessed with good neighbors!

  • @betzibarrett
    @betzibarrett Před 2 lety +9

    The same happened to my neighbor and she dared tell me I got free fence to which I replied, " And I have extensive property damage worth a lot more than your ugly fence you put up. I told you I was going to survey but you couldn't wait." She didn't really think I could afford a surveyor. It was sooooo funny.

  • @1LongTallTexan
    @1LongTallTexan Před 2 lety +200

    My son bought a nice unrestricted, fully surveyed, 5 acre lot, between two nice looking older homes on 2 acre lots, outside a small town in Texas.
    While cutting the tree limbs higher so he could mow under them with his new Joh Deere tractor, he met both neighbor's.
    They didn't like his two year plan to build a $350,000 home, nice $120,000 country styled 50x50 barn/workshop/garage complete with swimming pool for his 4 kids!
    They hated most of all, his owning a 40 foot motorhome and 25 foot offshore boat that would parked on a large concrete driveway and pads next to the barn.
    His meeting the nice neighbor, across the street, explained what sorry SOB's they were which had him... 1 year later, change his mind for the lot.
    Truly, he wasn't ready to build when he bought the lot and found a year later, a fine home with barn and ten acres in a great area.
    So he decided....it was time to put up survey stakes with colored tape flags, marking power lines, water well location, septic sewer plant lines, driveway and patio areas for his NEW 5 acre, money making 80 lot, MOBILEHOME PARK.
    Yeap! The two next door neighbors had a real screaming fit.
    The county offices filed his self-designed, Mobilehome Park plan with only water well and septic plant guidelines!
    NO other restrictions!
    We had a ball...driving stakes that one Saturday, drinking beer with his buddies, dragging measuring tapes, tying flags to stakes, and watching the kids ride their 4 wheeler's while we ate bar-b-que at the lot.
    It was all an act.
    It was my son's plan to sell the lot, the whole time.
    The two neighbors got together in their panic, offered to buy the 5 acre lot for $36,000 more than he paid for it.
    A sweet end...to bad neighbors!

    • @beththomas2222
      @beththomas2222 Před 2 lety +1

      You sound like the a holes.

    • @christinab9808
      @christinab9808 Před 2 lety +1

      @Tiger Bandaid You mad bro 😎???

    • @RightOne1
      @RightOne1 Před 2 lety

      @Tiger Bandaid no, u can fit 8000 in 5 acres.

    • @littledroogy
      @littledroogy Před 4 měsíci +1

      Love this!
      Wish we were neighbors

    • @hmp5718
      @hmp5718 Před 3 měsíci

      Damn, I'm working my ass off to get some land out in the boonies. I'd hate to finally get what I've always wanted just for some douchebag with money to turn it into a trashy trailer park. But I get it, if the roles were reversed I'd probably do the same thing too.

  • @gooberclese
    @gooberclese Před 2 lety +292

    Our neighbor from hell is a truck driver who's rental house (he rents it) sits about a foot off our property line. His shed and carport sit on our property. We had them survey it 5 times. All agree on where property line is except him and the home owner. They move the stakes every time and say the professionals and GPS is wrong. The house also has NO drive way so uses my driveway to enter the property. They say they have an easement but none was ever agreed to. I know because my grandparents built this house year before the other was built. They fought with the other property owner about how close the house is to the line but the other owner would not stop or move the house. No agreement was made at all and we (my family) have been fighting this ever since. They drive through our yard every day digging ruts and tearing up our drive way.....even broke our water line once. His kid rides a 4 wheeler through the yard all the time and now he has taken to parking his big truck tractor at the end of our drive way which both blocks my driveway but crushed the concrete culvert under it.....he refuses to stop or fix it. I live in town. The city council told him to stop. He still won't. The police told him to stop and informed his landlord of the damage he is doing.....she laughed . WE ARE GOING TO SUE BOTH INTO THE GROUND!

    • @wyattfamily8997
      @wyattfamily8997 Před 2 lety +43

      Hope you get buckets of money but if he's like that keep a careful eye out and install some night vision security cameras.

    • @ambrr_lily
      @ambrr_lily Před 2 lety +18

      That sounds like a situation that gets much worse before it gets better. I hope it works at as quickly and easily as possible for your sake. Some people are just terrible human beings.

    • @bigrick7108
      @bigrick7108 Před 2 lety +34

      If his tractor crushed your culvert sue the owner of the truck. Also, have his truck towed and impounded if it is in your driveway. Put a fence up so they have no access. F them.

    • @LJ-ib6pq
      @LJ-ib6pq Před 2 lety +6

      Unbelievable what some ppl will go thru to be extra ornery !! It takes a lot more energy to be mean than to be nice. They sound like lazy ppl. U would think they would take the easy way and be nice. I hope the courts rule in ur favor once and for all. U and ur family deserve to live in ur home with peace and harmony.
      Good Luck and God Bless

    • @catherinep2034
      @catherinep2034 Před 2 lety +6

      So the truck driver related, or sleeping with the landlord?

  • @CoffeeCakeCrumble
    @CoffeeCakeCrumble Před 2 lety +44

    This reminds me of something weird that happened shortly after I bought my house on the outskirts in a thickly wooded area in 2006. One day my boyfriend and I heard voices in the woods, and here comes this woman, a man and some teenager trying to peck through the undergrowth. We're like "wtf??" So we close in and get the story from them. They claimed they owned a 10'x10' piece of land on the corner of my south neighbor's property. Nothing they could do anything with but just wanted to say they owned property up north. I had to tell them they were standing in a patch of poison ivy🙄 Never saw them again. Weird clown show. Fast forward to 2018 and I bought that property to add to mine. Browsing the tax description, there was no 10x10 section missing, no sale to be found, and the dimensions were exactly the same as the other property. The survey stakes were present and in alignment. I still wonder what those people were doing so far back in the woods.....

  • @1942Dreamer
    @1942Dreamer Před 2 lety +6

    My dad was a land surveyor for decades and I'd help him on weekends. It's funny what people do or say, or discrepancies like fences or buildings we'd locate. A funny cartoon he had on his wall was a lody in curlers and bathrobe saying "That's not the property line. Can't you see the mow line"

  • @kwaynesatuckle5631
    @kwaynesatuckle5631 Před 2 lety +247

    In most states, a surveyor is legally allowed to enter your property without permission, following guidelines of course.

    • @rickraber1249
      @rickraber1249 Před 2 lety +4

      I suspect the surveyors started their work offsite at another monument and then measured back to where the actual dividing line was. The fact that they were on the nasty neighbor's side of the fence did not mean they were on the nasty neighbor's property. For one thing, there are trespassing laws that they have to be aware of, and for another, you don't want to be on the wrong side of either the law or the property line with whack-jobs like those people. They could be dangerous.

    • @RiverRat-2112
      @RiverRat-2112 Před 2 lety +9

      It would be near impossible to do a land survey unless you can access any property. After a while you get used to having guns pointed at you. lol

    • @drozcompany4132
      @drozcompany4132 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RiverRat-2112 Holy crap for real?

    • @RiverRat-2112
      @RiverRat-2112 Před 2 lety +2

      @@drozcompany4132 Yep, I did anyway. It is mostly just bluster. Not worth calling the cops for unless they persist in denying access.

    • @rickraber1249
      @rickraber1249 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RiverRat-2112 Yes. But in this case they can access the left-hand property from the street and stay off Karen's property entirely.

  • @kenarthur6253
    @kenarthur6253 Před 2 lety +144

    Having a miserable neighbor like that cuts the value of your home in half

    • @BigNr3d
      @BigNr3d Před 2 lety +1

      True

    • @erichynnek
      @erichynnek Před 2 lety +1

      Or even less. Who wants lo live next to hostile, abusove lunatic

    • @MR..181
      @MR..181 Před 2 lety

      Exactly..

    • @martymaloney1032
      @martymaloney1032 Před 2 lety

      Our daughter and son in law are moving next week, we’ve all been a little worried they wouldn’t get a good price for their house because the next door neighbor plays loud filthy music while weight lifting with the garage door up. Son in law has gone over a number of times to ask him to turn it down because they are working from home and the music is distracting while they are on zoom calls all day.
      I said something to my daughter about it the other day and she said it looks like the man/dad has moved to another house in the neighborhood. She’s just glad to be getting away from that family.

  • @wolfpile1
    @wolfpile1 Před 2 lety +4

    Where I live the ordinance states that structures can't be within 4 feet of the property line. I had a friend that had a fence that was only 1 foot from his neighbors garage. The garage was actually to close to the property line. There wasn't a problem until the neighbor sold his property and the new neighbor throw a fit about the fence and claim that the garage wasn't to close, but the fence was over the property line. The new neighbor ended up suing my friend and my friend asked the judge to order a survey. They had to split the survey bill. The survey showed the the fence wasn't on the the property line. The line was actually five feet further, towards the neighbor. The neighbor tried to fight the survey, but the judge wouldn't have it. The judge declared the neighbors garage out of compliance and ordered it torn down. The neighbor tried to say that the garage was grandfathered in, but it turned out that the original neighbor didn't get a permit to build it. That means no grandfathering. My friend moved the fence 4.5 feet when the garage was torn down.

  • @charlesbawden5924
    @charlesbawden5924 Před 2 lety +8

    Weird. In Australia, neighbours go halves in boundary fences. Not argue and create issues for each other. 😂

    • @iqvoice
      @iqvoice Před 3 měsíci +1

      That can happen in the United States too, sometimes. If it is agricultural land and its an agricultural fence, both neighbors can be held responsible for fencing costs, in some states.

    • @user-ub8ph5nt3e
      @user-ub8ph5nt3e Před 2 měsíci +1

      Wow, you're painting a pretty picture there... Im in nsw and my old neighbour tried to hand me a bill of costs and labour for a fence on a line that we paid to have surveyed and wasn't erected yet.

  • @toml.8210
    @toml.8210 Před 2 lety +524

    We had a neighbor at the rental house keep pulling up the surveyor's stakes after the city engineer put them in, claiming it was in the wrong spot, and "my property goes all the way over there!" The engineer yelled at the lady, and she called the cops. The cops finally explained the engineer was RIGHT.

    • @bernicehenson2149
      @bernicehenson2149 Před 2 lety +57

      Here in my part of Arizona, If someone pulls up the property stake. They can be arrested for tampering with property. Meaning removing the stakes. Our surveyor was certified government surveyor. My crazy neighbor called the sheriff on my husband cutting branches off a tree. That was hanging over on to my property 6 ft. Plus she said he pushed her fence and was on her property a foot. Come to find out she filed disorderly conduct on him. Long story short, we found out her and the sheriff were friends and the fence she said about wasn't even hers. It was my fence, the case got dismissed.

    • @JaneWagman
      @JaneWagman Před 2 lety +17

      Depending on what state you are in, you can be fined and/or charged with a criminal offense for moving a survey stake. We had a neighbor move a pin and try to claim adverse posession. We laughed about the adverse possesion attempt, he should have tead the law before running his mouth.

    • @markwhited1785
      @markwhited1785 Před 2 lety +20

      Isn't it illegal to remove survey markers?

    • @terryrussel3369
      @terryrussel3369 Před 2 lety +8

      @@markwhited1785 States can and will fine you for interfering with surveyors and/or their markers, and it can amount to many thousands of greenbacks per offence !

    • @markwhited1785
      @markwhited1785 Před 2 lety +8

      @@terryrussel3369 Even if someone removes the marker, the perimeters are recorded at the courthouse, making it impossible to steal someone's property.

  • @battalion151R
    @battalion151R Před 2 lety +109

    My Karen was Nancy.
    This sounds just like her. They had encroached about 30' onto the property I bought. I took a paper over to her husband (poor guy), so they could use that piece of my property. That avoids the Adverse Possession claim. I'm certain she tore it up. At the time I didn't think much of it. But, one day my dog broke through his "electric" fence, and ran across her yard. She threatened to sue, so I started checking survey pins. Then, as I was running a rope, from point A to point B, it sounded just like this. She later hired a surveyor, and found out that I was correct. Then she paid to have a privacy fence put up.
    Sad, but even her grandkids wouldn't talk to her.

  • @daveluttinen2547
    @daveluttinen2547 Před 2 lety +9

    When I purchased my home, I was examining the survey and discovered that the previous owner (deceased) had fudged the corners of the property. The massive two car garage is actually located on three pieces of property not mine. Because the garage had been in place for so long, nothing should be done to fix the alignment issue (unless it has to be rebuilt). I felt awful but at least the statutes allow things to stay status quo. After getting to know the neighbors, this wasn't the only time the decedent had pulled stunts like that. Quite an entertaining fellow according to legend. I've got cool neighbors and am grateful for them.

  • @ezell7079
    @ezell7079 Před 2 lety +4

    That survey cost was worth every penny 🤣🤣👌

  • @Roadglide911
    @Roadglide911 Před 2 lety +100

    I had a neighbor tell a surveyor the land belonged to him and the surveyor put the markers where the old man told him and not where the deed said. Needless to say the surveyor was fired and check was canceled. When the other surveyor came out he had explicit instructions to follow the deed and not the used car salesman’s directions.

  • @theduffster2581
    @theduffster2581 Před 2 lety +585

    You couldn’t build a fence high enough lol 😂

    • @macknewman835
      @macknewman835 Před 2 lety +1

      I might be considering a moat with a neighbor like that.

    • @fepeerreview3150
      @fepeerreview3150 Před 2 lety +13

      2 stories high, solid concrete block!

    • @ayo30s
      @ayo30s Před 2 lety +2

      Yo!!! 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸

    • @hpqzhpqz9688
      @hpqzhpqz9688 Před 2 lety +5

      @@fepeerreview3150 : 2 feet thick !

    • @bobdillaber1195
      @bobdillaber1195 Před 2 lety +6

      Need to have that fence built like those sound-deadening ones along the freeway too. That ladies voice would crack a canning jar.

  • @curly874
    @curly874 Před 2 lety +93

    The neighbor and I bought our houses at the same time. The second month in our new homes, he went out and put in a new fence in the front yard and took a sizeable portion of my front yard. I told him that he was mistaken on the property line. He is a large weight lifter and very proud of his upper body and never wears a shirt. He started yelling at me and rushed over to intimidate me. Now I had graduated college several years ago and was a conference champion heavy-weight wrestler. I am surprisingly large and well built. As he got nearer and realized how large I was, he hesitated and came more meekly to my property.
    We ended up splitting the cost of a survey and then he moved his fence over ten feet back to his property. I still remember the look on his face when he realized that he could not intimidate me, and that he should proceed with extreme caution when speaking with me.

    • @ManiacRacing
      @ManiacRacing Před 3 měsíci +1

      This sounds like a childs fantasy. Lucky you're such a tough scary guy.

  • @marianclennon
    @marianclennon Před 2 lety +9

    I had a neighbor who started complaining about a lilac bush on my property at the end of her driveway. It was there when I moved into my house 25 years ago. One day I got so mad I went out and stared cutting it down almost to the ground. She came out asking me what I was doing.
    I have other bushes in my back yard that all of a sudden looked like they were dying. I trimmed them and have brought them back. She kept telling me that they looked like they were dead and they should be cut down. My guess is she or someone sprayed something on them. She is 97 and will probably live to be 110.

    • @joefitzgeraldify
      @joefitzgeraldify Před rokem +1

      You really showed her by cutting down the lilacs that she complained about...

  • @louisemast1166
    @louisemast1166 Před 2 lety +164

    Same thing happened to me when the elderly lady who lived in the house passed away and new neighbors moved in and they said that my flowers and all were on their property. So I called the realtor Who Sold us the property and come to find out that part of their side yard was mine. It's worth not letting this kind of stuff go neighbors can be crazy

    • @leadnsteel1428
      @leadnsteel1428 Před 2 lety +1

      When it comes to property yes they're all crazy

    • @Scotty_in_Ohio
      @Scotty_in_Ohio Před 2 lety +1

      when you say "come to find out..." was that due to a survey? I've known a lot of real estate agents and some (probably most) don't know much about property (ironically). I can see though if it's very well stated in the property description or you've located pins the agent may have gotten it right or wrong.

    • @louisemast1166
      @louisemast1166 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Scotty_in_Ohio the next door neighbor had a survey done thinking that he could prove that that it was his but the survey said otherwise and besides there were markers for the edge of the property all around and The Man Who Sold it to us walk the property with us before we bought. But yes the survey that the man next door did proved me right and him wrong and that's the way it goes

  • @bf6159
    @bf6159 Před 2 lety +40

    I have an ass for a neighbor as well. Purchased this fixer-upper just before COVID, the neighbor had been sabotaging the sale of the house because he wanted it... this from his own statements, just different words. He said I was the only person who never spoke to him while viewing the property, wouldn't have mattered anyway. He was very indignant, complete hater in every respect and making claims as to where the property line was, he also repeatedly called the County on me, initiating false complaints, which they investigated and found nothing. In the end, all "his" trees as well as 5 ft of what he proclaimed as his down the property line are now verified as mine on County records, because of my financial situation at the time, and due to his repeated use of the County as a tool of harassment, I got a free septic system via a grant... rarely do things work in my favor, for once, doing the right thing actually worked out.

  • @biffmalibu3733
    @biffmalibu3733 Před 2 lety +4

    My neighbor is the state game commission. Our deed showed 1.5 acres for year's, so did the tax bill. We had a title search done and found that the game Commission swiped .74 acres off the back and side of our property. The prothonataries office had to be in on it for it to get recorded at the tax office. It would of cost more than the land was worth to sue. I just took over 4 acres of theirs and they don't say a word because they know I found their dirty little secret and that I'm not the only one they ripped off.

  • @cababyboomerq6012
    @cababyboomerq6012 Před 2 lety +7

    I had to do that too. But luckily my neighbors were allot nicer. I just wanted to prove to them that the platte map that I got when I bought my house in 2015 was CORRECT. Not where they thought and told me the property line was, which made no sense when you look at the houses. My neighbors on both sides of me had about a yard of my property and also about a foot all along my back fence line! It was crazy. But we all get along and now we all know. I didn’t make them move their flower beds or the fence. They know its mine and my yard is huge anyway. But they know that if I ever sell my house they will need to move it so no other owner has to deal with it in the future. Someone had removed at least one of the pins along the back fence line.

  • @oxyfee6486
    @oxyfee6486 Před 2 lety +270

    I had the same problem,it all started over a patch of rhubarb,my neighbor said they owned it,I laughed and said if you own the rhubarb,you own part of my basement,because the patch was behind my house.They made it hell for us,on principle I paid 1200 dollars for surveyors,when it was all said and done I was eating 1200 dollars worth of rhubarb pie.😜

    • @joshuac4772
      @joshuac4772 Před 2 lety +1

      Mmmm victory pie

    • @leahweinberger583
      @leahweinberger583 Před 2 lety

      Slightly bitter but so satisfying.....a d fulfilling.

    • @Carmen-us1ew
      @Carmen-us1ew Před 2 lety +6

      They should've just planted their own rhubarb. I think it grows pretty easily.

    • @bradley3549
      @bradley3549 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Carmen-us1ew And it transplants well too, they could have asked for a few roots and it would have spread.

    • @greyferguson9319
      @greyferguson9319 Před 2 lety +1

      Rhubarb over rhubarb, that's funny.

  • @danajane6674
    @danajane6674 Před 2 lety +170

    Ah the absolute beauty of a survey. Ours got us “back”🤨over an ACRE our complete douchebag neighbors just put their garbage wood and construction trash on while we were gone 6 months. Ohhh their faces when they showed up and saw those gorgeous brilliant neon orange property line stakes.....one of THE most satisfying days of my life. 🥰🥰🥰

    • @smithscrete1
      @smithscrete1 Před 2 lety +18

      We had some property up north and someone built a house without a survey....i did one ...turns out my property line ran right thru the center of his living room...I didn't do anything about it as I own many acres around it..but I ask him to change the color of paint on my side of the livingroom 😉...hes been a very cordial neighbor ever since....

    • @YeethusCries
      @YeethusCries Před 2 lety +9

      @@smithscrete1 so you must be why the accent walls became a thing haha.

    • @Scotty_in_Ohio
      @Scotty_in_Ohio Před 2 lety +1

      @@smithscrete1 I llik eggplant - yes a nice deep shade of purple - probably have to use about 3-4 coats till the color comes in as deep as I'd like.... ;-)

  • @randomkrap917
    @randomkrap917 Před 2 lety +4

    Always good to see neighbours getting along so well 😂 I think she needs a hug 😊

  • @csnide6702
    @csnide6702 Před 11 měsíci +2

    So glad I have a cool neighbor..... His rental property just north of mine has its driveway at least 20 feet onto my property --- I let that slide and he lets me use his over 100 acres of woods for any purpose i want...... good guy.

  • @jeffhildreth9244
    @jeffhildreth9244 Před 2 lety +56

    I have 11 1/2 acres. Roughly 505 feet by 1100 feet. I had it professionally surveyed.
    I installed the entire fencing myself. Half of it "t" posts and 4 runs of Barbed wire, and the other half solid cedar 6 ft high with 4x4 pressure treated posts and 2X4 runners top, bottom and middle. Because I am in the county and designated rural.. no permits required. All of my fencing is inside my original fencing by 1 ft of all barbed wire on "t'"posts done 20 years prior on the actual property lines. New out of state carpet bagger neighbors both sides claimed I was on their property and sued for encroachment.
    They did not realize that my new fencing is exactly 1 foot inside my (surveyed 3 times in 22 years) exact property line.
    F em, friggin dope growers.
    I sold the property following that event. They both offered to buy my legal water rights completely irrigated, 2000 trees, gardens, orchard, 2600 Sq Ft barn, 60 ft pond, 1000 sq ft shop, 400 sq ft studio etc.. property
    I sold it in 2 hrs of the listing for full price sight unseen to a retired cop.
    I win.

    • @rosierose6008
      @rosierose6008 Před 2 lety

      You are the winner 🏆🏆🏆

    • @lylecampbell9036
      @lylecampbell9036 Před 2 měsíci

      BS

    • @jeffhildreth9244
      @jeffhildreth9244 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lylecampbell9036 Fact. Williams Oregon, AKA Dopeville.
      Additionally, the dope growers broke into my irrigation system, stole water.
      Rebuilt the system ( pump 16 ft above the river bottom,) they stole my pumping system.
      Installed a new system with a cage.
      Knocked down my fences, stripped my orchard, stole UPS packages off my porch.
      Our house was 400 ft from the main rural road, you can't see my house.
      Stripped my raised bed gardens. The front of my property is 505 with a 3 ft deep 10ft wide swale.
      They used this to dump their household trash, roofing, toilets, couches, car seats, you name it. At least
      a dump run (50 miles round trip ) every other month. Stole my mail, and mil from the neighbors.
      Stole $26,000 worth of highly figured white oak 105 years old. ( I was a furniture maker) I felled the tree
      and air dried it for 10 years. They had to know me, had to know I had the wood, had to know its value,
      had to know when I was going to be gone and when I was going to be back. This is all on a County Sheriff's report.
      None of this happened until marijuana was made legal July 15, 2015. They invaded and brought their trimmigrants with them.
      Those trimmers worked 2 months then out of work so they stole everything and anything they could the rest of the year.
      Williams was a paradise until this happened, and now, a shit hole populated with carpet bagging thieves and cons.
      Add to that Mexican cartels, Germans, Bulgarians, Russians.. all growing illegally and clear cutting and poisoning the creeks and river
      with dangerous chemicals.
      You were not there, I was 22 years and they ruing my life and the town of Williams where they now are the town council, the chief honchos at
      the Grange, took over the school board and the water shed council ( making it easier to steal water)and have a massive dopers supply that
      was an auto repair for 50 years. They bought the guy out with a massive amount of cash.
      In one year (1=2015 to 2016) the post office reported they had gone form 1300 residential deliveries and 100 post office boxes to double.. On year.
      Don't tell me it's BS. I sweated my ass off for 20 years to pay the place off and then ....this was my reward.
      The place is now trashed, destroyed by sloth and greed, and a criminal mind set Sold to an Ex cop and then a land broker hustler from Santa Rosa Calif.
      his 20 ish son was a local dope grower laborer with a pregnant girl fried.
      These people have no respect for the citizens, wild life or the land. That is the world of marijuana production.

  • @jamesmchugo9422
    @jamesmchugo9422 Před 2 lety +544

    My grandmother had a Karen for a neighbor. Their son was famous for loud weekend parties and throwing trash over the fence into her yard. Then one day, Mr. Karen had a Survey done on his property, he was thinking about making his garage bigger but her dog kennel was close to line. As it turned out his existing garage was built well over the property line, about 5 feet over on the back end. To add insult to injury, he found out there wasn’t enough room for were the existing garage was, so if he tore it down, or was told to move it, couldn’t rebuild it. After my grandma was informed of the violation, the Karen’s became good and very quiet neighbors. No more parties, no more trash, even their constant fighting with each other stopped. She made it very clear, they either clean up their act or they can move the garage. They became good neighbors.

    • @bugwar5545
      @bugwar5545 Před 2 lety +45

      You might want to check on how long it is till the land their garage is on becomes their property (Adverse Possession claim, I believe) .
      Bet that a day after that they go back to being unpleasant.

    • @ronburns6920
      @ronburns6920 Před 2 lety +10

      Funny that they were nice all of a sudden. Ugh humans

    • @nickya181
      @nickya181 Před 2 lety +18

      Adverse possession has a lot of requirements, especially if your state has permissive use laws.
      I own a small chunk of land. 3 of 3 of my neighbors all encroached on my property. I let my town know… they have permissive use. That’s right there will negate any form of adverse possession as…. One of the requirements in my state is hostility. No hostility, no adverse possession.
      Now if I want to be a real asshole… one neighbor has a secondary driveway cutting right through my yard and another neighbor has 3 sheds on my property… town said once I get a survey, they will tear into them. But, I’m not mean. My neighbors are veterans. I’m a veteran. We talk like adults and help each other. So a shed here or driveway there… doesn’t really matter when you have ~10 acres of old growth forest.

    • @irenemarano8241
      @irenemarano8241 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol,I am glad it worked out for your grandma. She didn't deserve that and she was a very nice lady anyone else would have made them tear it down.🙂💖

    • @konapuppy10
      @konapuppy10 Před 2 lety +1

      Your grandma is awesome!

  • @turkeyman631
    @turkeyman631 Před 11 měsíci +2

    People like this make the world a worse place. If you see yourself turning out like that couple, it’s not too late to change.

  • @alanchidley2745
    @alanchidley2745 Před 2 lety +4

    That was great. It will be wonderful to stand on "their' 4ft strip of land they lost because of the survey. I would work there and stare at them the entire time just to record the reactions.
    Please keep us posted.

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar Před 2 lety +1330

    This is a story of the opposite situation.
    30 years ago, when we bought our house the site wall on one side was leaning over the neighbor's back yard. It had been built in the 1950s and had no footing under it.
    12 years ago, I had a mason replace two sections of the leaning wall. We had him build new 5'-8" high wall to replace old 5' wall, and also had him build 5'-8" wall further forward on the property where an earlier 1' high section of wall had been. That last section is adjacent the side of our house. Where the wall got close to lining up with the front of our house, we had him make it turn and cut across our side yard to meet our house near its front corner.
    I had the mason locate the corner of the new site wall so it would be in line with the corner of the neighbor's house. We inserted pintles on the neighbor's side of the wall so he could hang his existing steel gate from our wall and enclose his side yard too. The mason was surprised by how much consideration I had shown to my neighbor.
    But that neighbor was nicer than I was. Years before, his dad had done the labor to replace another section of the wall that had been leaning even more dangerously into their yard. Not only did his dad do the work, but my neighbor paid for half the cost of the materials.
    Good neighbors are a blessing and it's worth doing what you can to be nice to them.

    • @travelsouthafrica5048
      @travelsouthafrica5048 Před 2 lety +18

      so you are saying good neighbors make for good fences ?

    • @michaelfoxbrass
      @michaelfoxbrass Před 2 lety +39

      That’s a great story and so true. Neighbors who look out for and respect each other make or break a property and neighborhood.

    • @valg.3270
      @valg.3270 Před 2 lety +19

      Y’all are definitely good neighbors to each other. I can only imagine how hard it will be for the guy on the video to live next to the angry folks that were yelling from their porch.

    • @beverlysatterfield6598
      @beverlysatterfield6598 Před 2 lety +17

      And this……is how it should be…..Love thy neighbor as yourself!

    • @shiny2423
      @shiny2423 Před 2 lety +41

      When my kids were toddlers my Mormon next door neighbor had two toddlers also.
      The back of our adjoining condos faced a busy street.
      When they put up a fence to enclose their yard to keep the kids safe; they enclosed my yard too~! Very generous and thoughtful of them.

  • @madera7272
    @madera7272 Před 2 lety +368

    As someone who was on a survey crew for 10 years, I can tell you this happens more than you would think. Both the fence situation and the screaming neighbors. In all that time I only had 1 person threaten me
    With a firearm. We left, called the police and had no issues after that as the police came and visited them for quite awhile. The police also watched while we finished what we needed to do.
    Surveyors have a right to access adjoining properties for the purposes of establishing a boundary survey usually after notification of the owner. This varies state to state, but there are right of way and eminent domain laws that allow for access.

    • @justinfox2310
      @justinfox2310 Před 2 lety +7

      Here in Florida surveyors have right of trespass, just across the line in Alabama...not so much. I'd always have to stop my guys if we were in Bama and make them go knock on the door and announce ourselves.

    • @AyalahW
      @AyalahW Před 2 lety +9

      @@justinfox2310 I would think the courteous thing to do is at least attempt to notify owners even in Florida where they have right of way. You couldn’t assume the owner would know someone was a surveyor unless they explained and it’s unsafe to assume otherwise.

    • @kimberkimKC
      @kimberkimKC Před 2 lety +5

      I'd like to have my property lines re-established by surveyor but have no idea who to contact or if I can even afford it. I've been told it costs thousands. Is that true?

    • @justinfox2310
      @justinfox2310 Před 2 lety +11

      @@kimberkimKC Not usually. Most boundary surveys we did were a couple hundred. Granted, I stopped surveying in 2010, but I can't see them jump up that much.

    • @cecilgamble9666
      @cecilgamble9666 Před 2 lety +4

      @@kimberkimKC boundary line survey for 1 acre adjoining my property was quoted as $540.00 1 year ago ... Used my metal detector.. found the surrounding markers... used a 300ft steel tape and did my own ..
      Checked and rechecked ...works for me ...

  • @MrTommyboy68
    @MrTommyboy68 Před 2 lety +34

    Reminds me of a story I read a few years ago. Dude bought a house RIGHT ON THE LINE BETWEEN 2 STATES (mid west, I think). Anyway the one state had a GPS survey done and discovered his house was COMPLETELY IN THEIR STATE (The old survey was WAY OFF DONE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS EARLIER). So by the time he got home from work, the new state had already sent him a new tax bill, the county also sent a new tax bill as did the school district. He had to pull his kids out of their school and enroll them in his "new" state's and county schools AND HIS TAX BILL SKYROCKETED. Just shows how greedy states can be. So be careful if you buy a house near or at a border of a state, county, town or boro and have a GPS survey done. It will save a lot of headaches down the road (since many older communities were surveyed decades earlier and EVERYONE is desperate for tax revenue.

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Also, be very careful about what town/village/city real estate listings show for a property. Many times postal ZIP codes in the US cross these boundaries, but the real estate sites neither know nor care where the property actually is. So you can have a listing saying a building's street address is in "Town A", when actually it is outside the town boundaries. Even real estate agents can get this wrong, because they're just reading the same automated data. Same for what school district a building is in. Get a look at a district map from the school district to make sure what school(s) serve the building/property.

  • @rebeccarenner8927
    @rebeccarenner8927 Před 2 lety +4

    Haha this exact same thing happened to us a few years ago. Our property line moved over alot! We also gained some ugly bushes that my husband and I where very happy to cut down! Best 800 bucks we ever spent!

  • @cgillespie1680
    @cgillespie1680 Před 2 lety +212

    I was struggling with one of my neighbors with this same issue. I'd get it surveyed and he'd pull up the flags and move them which I think is illegal. So finally after a back and forth and getting the cops involved I just had a surveyor and fence guy come out at the same time. Ol boy wasn't happy but I sure was.

    • @kcanded
      @kcanded Před 2 lety +24

      That is probably the BEST solution to this situation I've ever come across.

    • @stanleyhape8427
      @stanleyhape8427 Před 2 lety +10

      This happened to me as well. When the surveyors came back they were NOT happy about it. I took pictures and spray painted where the stakes were and the fence guys came a few days later.

    • @stanleyhape8427
      @stanleyhape8427 Před 2 lety +15

      The surveyors also said that removing the stakes is theft and i should call the cops if he does it again. I think he would have but the paint was a dead giveaway where the stakes belonged.

    • @rottierumbles9451
      @rottierumbles9451 Před rokem +6

      it is illegal and you can go to court and have the surveyor with you to prove it.

  • @LisaNYC70
    @LisaNYC70 Před 2 lety +50

    Thank God we have great neighbors on both sides and behind us! We share a drive way with one neighbor and when it came time for a new gate and repaving the drive we split the cost. No fence up between us in the backyard, just lovely rosebushes he planted between our properties back there. He even helps my dad prune our plants and is teaching my dad to cook now that my mom is gone. New neighbor on the other side had a full gut and rebuild and was so respectful and still is. Lovely family! We sweep the front of each others homes when doing our own too. We are truly blessed! So sorry you had to deal with that.

    • @sadjaxx
      @sadjaxx Před rokem +2

      What a blessing!

    • @edensfamilyadventures2714
      @edensfamilyadventures2714 Před rokem

      THAT is what being a neighbor is all about. A little bit of honey is far better than a whole lot of venegar......

  • @geofjones9
    @geofjones9 Před 2 lety +1

    I sold a house i a rural area. Buyer wanted it surveyed, ended up that what my neighbor and I had thought was the property line actually crossed over the true line at an angle. We each created a "Quit Claim Deed" to make the properties conform to what we thought was right. Later, I looked in a plat book and found I owned a small (10'x 20') piece on his farmland across the road. I had no use for that patch, so I made another quit claim deed. We split the filing fees both times. We were good friends, a little thing like that was not going to spoil it.

  • @Minenotyours58
    @Minenotyours58 Před 2 lety +6

    First rule, when putting up a fence. Make sure it's on your property. Each city has a code. On the distance a fence has to be, onto your property line. Most can't be right on the line.

  • @francieanneriley7349
    @francieanneriley7349 Před 2 lety +18

    I grew up at 32 Country Ridge Drive in Port Chester NY 10573. Our neighbors at 34 did something similar to us and to those at the other side, number 36. They also planted beautiful shrubs along the fence line on “their” property.
    When my folks sold our home they just moved the fence to the proper side and had a lovely border garden, compliments of the angry folks at number 34, to offer the new buyers.
    Surveys don’t lie, bad neighbors do.

  • @rebelyell2741
    @rebelyell2741 Před 2 lety +42

    Lady puts fence up without getting a land survey and applying for a permit.
    Then gets angry because she built the fence on her neighbors property to steal land and didn’t get away with it.

  • @crinklecut3790
    @crinklecut3790 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Having good neighbors is almost as important as the house you live in. I’m so lucky to have my neighbors. We’re always available to help one another out if need be, but other than that- we limit our interactions to smiles and friendly waves. And if somebody wants to have a cookout or party, we shut up and let each other have fun for a day. That’s how we all remain friends.

  • @theenchantedtoilet
    @theenchantedtoilet Před 2 lety +14

    Had the same problem with my neighbor when I moved in. He didn’t like where the property line was so when we were doing the final walkthrough before closing, he was actually out there moving all the survey markers and claiming I was stealing his property. Screamed like a little bitch when I put a fence on MY property!

    • @travelinman70
      @travelinman70 Před rokem

      you are a good Karen

    • @plmokm33
      @plmokm33 Před rokem

      ​@@travelinman70considering how much you're commenting this shit on comments where people are having Karens try to claim THEIR property, I'm guessing that Karen stick is firmly up your ass not theirs.

  • @w4shep
    @w4shep Před 2 lety +113

    When you buy a house, make sure it's surveyed before you sell your soul. Its the largest purchase of your life - make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
    My neighbors had "encroached" about 5' down my property line, built a concrete deck, garden... it was nice. They weren't too upset when I had my property re-surveyed for a remodel and the plots were redefined.
    Did I mention both husband & wife were/are lawyers? Yup. Government lawyers. They instantly knew they were busted. Pretty sure they did it to the last owner (I suspect on purpose) because the previous couple were young, naive & foreign.
    Aren't lawyers so sweet?

    • @onyachamp
      @onyachamp Před 2 lety

      Maggots.

    • @anthonycaruso6065
      @anthonycaruso6065 Před 2 lety

      Lawyers for the government. So your both useless cancers to society

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops Před 2 lety

      @@anthonycaruso6065 He means the neighbours not himself..

    • @nicoleackerman205
      @nicoleackerman205 Před 2 lety

      Are idiot former neighbors did not get it survey and did not realize most of their backyard is actually our property not there's. Then when they moved the never disclosed that the bassment floods during bad rain to the new owners. They moved as well since it was not big enough for four kids. I hope the new people get in survey and aren't wackos.

  • @dozi3r
    @dozi3r Před 2 lety +111

    as a surveyor, thanks for posting this! We're too afraid to

    • @redzot
      @redzot  Před 2 lety +13

      Feel free to send me any videos. I am happy to post on your behalf. :)

    • @jackrasmussen4467
      @jackrasmussen4467 Před 2 lety +5

      D Dozier I once did a lot line for a man that wanted to build a fence. I was in the process of digging up the front pin when his neighbor came home. She asked my what I was doing and I told her. She started screaming she's getting a lawyer. Made for a very uncomfortable survey.

    • @jstep4146
      @jstep4146 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jackrasmussen4467 --- Lawyers can end up to be an expensive way to be wrong. LOL

    • @Carmen-us1ew
      @Carmen-us1ew Před 2 lety +1

      Idk why people would yell like that. I'd just go inside and hope for the best.
      In this case, the lady probably knew she was wrong.

  • @chrislom5288
    @chrislom5288 Před 3 měsíci +3

    And the two neighbors lived happily ever after without a karen the world.

  • @JBond-zf4dj
    @JBond-zf4dj Před rokem +3

    We recently had the property next to us sell. The old owner used to also own this property, and had been sitting quietly on the knowledge that we had more than he wanted us to know about. (he had to sell a certain amount of property, and ended up not only giving up some in the back, but also some on the side). When the new people started to build, he told them we didn't know about the extra land, and to go ahead and use it for themselves. So they dug up the property, and attempted to put in five parking spots for their businesses at the bottom of their new building. Had the land resurveyed, and kicked them off. Oh, were they ever mad. Came back every single day and would try and sneak onto our property to use it to work on their building...cut down our apple tree and I caught them spreading grass seed on our property, they had had big plans for that side to make it look nice. We're thinking thorn bushes now.

  • @iamamish
    @iamamish Před 2 lety +73

    I remember when we built our fence. Best recommendation ever from our contractor - "survey the property and then build the fence a few feet into your property. You may get along with your current neighbor but you never know what the future may bring."
    Sure enough just a year later my neighbor moved and was replaced by the neighbor from hell. Keeping the fence clearly onto our property has saved me a number of headaches.

    • @traviseggl3794
      @traviseggl3794 Před 2 lety +10

      I had a person from the city tell me the same thing. This way they can't lean anything up against it, or attach anything to it because it is all on your property, not the property line.

    • @stanleyhape8427
      @stanleyhape8427 Před 2 lety +4

      The guy that built my fence put it 6 inches off the property line. Very happy about that . one round of grass killer keeps the other side of the fence clear for a year.

    • @silverforest4682
      @silverforest4682 Před 2 lety +1

      You still have to mow around it onto their side

    • @PrimoStracciatella
      @PrimoStracciatella Před 2 lety +4

      @@silverforest4682 The neighbors do because they think it's their property. ;)

    • @wasidanatsali6374
      @wasidanatsali6374 Před rokem +13

      Fences should go straight down the property line. If they don’t whoever’s side has a bit of their neighbor’s property on their side may start believing or claiming it’s theirs. Adverse possession only requires 7 years with color of title and 7 years goes by faster than most people realize.

  • @bendillard5946
    @bendillard5946 Před 2 lety +387

    We had a neighbor who tried to claim an entire lot once he was actually laying out the corners of his house and was ignoring us until we got the police involved but he really messed up and dropped a tree on the opposite neighbors house and we became his least problem

    • @kayeruss7313
      @kayeruss7313 Před 2 lety +1

      Hilarious! And mind-boggling at his blatant attempt to steal land!

    • @VesperAegis
      @VesperAegis Před 2 lety +7

      Wouldn't this be an excellent opportunity to be magnanimous to your neighbors and show them a little good will in an already strained relationship and grant them the fence, or attempt to help move it for them? Genuinely not sure why people insist on this "tit for tat" silliness. Good relations have their own reward, and just because someone else is doing something wrong to you doesn't mean you have to reciprocate.

    • @VesperAegis
      @VesperAegis Před 2 lety +13

      @Keepin' It Real You can certainly hold me to account if I do that. I personally try to keep the insults to a minimum, be civil to those I meet and encounter, and try to calm situations down before I exacerbate them. Always have, always will. You would think acting like a mature, civil-minded adult wouldn't be such a wild, edgy concept.

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 Před 2 lety +13

      @@VesperAegis Certainly as a first step I agree with you. Keep it civil. Just realize the world is full of unreasonable people and people who are sure they're correct no matter what proof you show them.

    • @billclark8241
      @billclark8241 Před 2 lety +13

      @@VesperAegis I tried that with my neighbor and is overgrown shrubs and trees for years. He would not maintain his own property and would tell me to trim it myself and after I did all the work he would say you didn't trim it correctly. After hurricane this tree was laying on four different properties. My neighbor and myself cut the tree along the fence line and brought all of his branches to his property. The one neighbor behind us told him he was leaving before the hurricane got here and to make sure he trimmed the tree but he ignored his friendly neighborly neighbor. So when The neighbor behind me came back and saw all of that tree on his property he dragged it around the block and left it right in his driveway. That's when my a****** neighbor called the police and they told him to remove it. I told him that I would help him bring it 50 ft away onto my front swale and I had some of my friends come to pick it all up and haul it away. So my question to you is how many decades of being nice to your neighbor before you finally stop letting him s*** on you and give him a taste of his own medicine?

  • @morganh2800
    @morganh2800 Před 2 lety +7

    My cousin's wife got into an argument with the neighbor. She didn't realize that they had an unofficial easment aggreement to share the drive way. So when she pissed him off he put up a jersey wall cutting them off from the driveway as well as use of their garage. I laughed and laughed and laughed...

  • @gcell10
    @gcell10 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I never had to have my property surveyed due to something that’s just weird, each property on our block has concrete slabs embedded in each corner with a brass puck engraved with lot numbers, and they came in handy when my neighbor started parking junk cars on my property

  • @mikefromwa
    @mikefromwa Před 2 lety +1013

    LOL, the same thing happened to my neighbors years and years ago. We had a huge backyard and one day we came home to find that they had staked off a large section of it. We made them pay for a survey. When the survey was done they had lost almost all of their front yard right up to their steps and around the side of their house. They literally had a 3-foot strip left. My wife and I laughed about this for years and years. We would hold parties and the guests would spill out all over our lawn, practically right up to their front door, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it.

    • @johnnyhighwoods1780
      @johnnyhighwoods1780 Před 2 lety +27

      Thats really funny! 😂

    • @gunner0811
      @gunner0811 Před 2 lety +34

      Karma can be a real bitch. LOL 😆

    • @bovinityleak2066
      @bovinityleak2066 Před 2 lety +17

      Oh thats rich man!

    • @Astro_touches_children
      @Astro_touches_children Před 2 lety +18

      You made my day a little better 👍

    • @mikemymail7044
      @mikemymail7044 Před 2 lety +24

      How did you make your neighbor pay for the survey? Did you take him to court? There has to be minimum distance between one house to another house. How do you build a house only three feet off the property line?

  • @jonathanmccall8465
    @jonathanmccall8465 Před 2 lety +70

    Been dealing with folks like this my whole adult life as a surveyor. People will still argue even after digging up monuments through the whole block to back my work up.

  • @jodyhuneycutt
    @jodyhuneycutt Před 2 lety +4

    Years ago, when I worked for a real estate developer, building new subdivisions, we had a property where a small portion (about 3 acres out of 150) was only accessible (due to a creek and surrounding wetland) via a street in an older subdivision, that dead ended at our property line. When our surveyor did the boundary survey, he called me and told me that the property boundary between our land and the existing home on the side of the dead end street was only a foot or so from the homeowner's property line, and they had landscaped about 15' across the line and had put in playground equipment for their children on our side of the line. Even though the front and rear property pins on our side of the existing residential lot were in correctly in place, you couldn't see one from the other because of the small rise on which the house sat.
    In surveying our boundary, the survey crew had put in a stake at the top of the hill so they could see both the homeowner's front and rear pins from the same location. This stake led the homeowner to give me a call the next morning complaining that we were wrong about the location of the property line. I drove out to meet her and explained what our surveyor had found. She was adamant that our surveyor was wrong. In an effort to come to a mutually agreeable solution, I suggested that she contact a surveyor of her own choosing and that then her surveyor and mine meet and choose a 3rd surveyor, who had no connection to either my company or to her, to actually come out to the property, and do a check survey of what my surveyor had found. I told her that if she was correct, I would pay the bills of all 3 surveyors, but if I was correct, then she would have to pay all 3 bills. I never heard back from her, and about a week later, all the playground equipment was moved, the landscaping re-located and we developed and sold the lot next door to her about 3 months later.

  • @hollyr.1139
    @hollyr.1139 Před 2 lety +4

    It's great to know from the video and the comments that fence surveyors are used to this sort of thing. I've been dreading getting a fence survey and putting up a fence, bracing for retaliation when my neighbor finds out that she doesn't own one side of my house after all!

    • @rosierose6008
      @rosierose6008 Před 2 lety

      Be careful and good luck I hope she's nice and easy to work with.

  • @merrywalsh2809
    @merrywalsh2809 Před 2 lety +90

    We have the opposite issue. Our neighbor put his hogwire fence ten feet back from his property line, giving us an extra ten feet. We unknowingly put up a big gardening tent structure in that ten feet. When we realized it, we asked if he would like us to move it. He said “nah.” We both try to be good neighbors and not sweat the small stuff.

    • @aardvarkbiscuit2677
      @aardvarkbiscuit2677 Před rokem +5

      If either of you sell in the future make sure to correct it or somehow code it into legalese otherwise it will turn into a shitfight.

    • @mzollnerable
      @mzollnerable Před rokem +1

      Co-exist! I certainly can be trying, but still worth the rewards, (Providing).

    • @SideOfHustle
      @SideOfHustle Před rokem

      @@aardvarkbiscuit2677ask my neighbor. his entire driveway is my property. He had a deal with someone maybe but not me and he has no easement and I don’t want my kids over there so I’m fencing it.

    • @brassmule
      @brassmule Před rokem

      ​@@SideOfHustleis his property landlocked except via the driveway on your property?

    • @SideOfHustle
      @SideOfHustle Před 11 měsíci

      @@brassmule a quarter of his property is road-side and he usually parks there. his carport back there has a broken down car he’d have to move. I’m going to have it surveyed and staked and then tell him it’s getting installed soon so he can move whatever.

  • @texasred2702
    @texasred2702 Před 2 lety +82

    In a lot of small towns, existing fences and carports and such actually do end up on the neighbor's property. This is typically after a rezoning, such as when the town becomes more "citified" and the new plattes don't line up with the old property lines. It's not something you encounter in planned communities but common in rural areas. Typically those structures are grandfathered in and you can replace them over time as long as you don't change the position or footprint. Out where I live, neighbors usually accommodate these local code quirks with handshake agreements but someone like this woman can ruin that balance pretty quick.
    We had a nearby case of a recent arrival from out of state demanding her next door neighbor change her corrugated metal fence to something more suited to her tastes, then wanted her to move the fence several feet to allow the new neighbors to add an extension. They were shot down on both counts, and then when they brought the survey team out, then found the fence was actually 6 feet inside the property line and the east wall of their new house technically belonged to their neighbor.

    • @travelsouthafrica5048
      @travelsouthafrica5048 Před 2 lety

      where I live there are several blocks where the fences over the years ended up in the wrong place on like you said , handshake agreements , recently an old goat , a city boy moved in and did a survey and found out his neighbor's fence is a meter on his property , he wanted to get nasty but I kindly pointed out two things , that he was a meter onto municipal property on the other side of his property and that we have a law that states you have X amount of years to correct any border mistake , after X amount of years passed and nobody said anything guess what , it stay the way it is and you can't do squat , if anybody here lives on your land without paying rent for several years they also have rights and you won't get them off

  • @ChristopherSibert
    @ChristopherSibert Před rokem +2

    Opposite of most of these stories: one our neighbors was getting ready to build a new fence and had started digging post holes. My dad came outside to help him, as we always got along with our neighbors, and my dad was a carpenter, and the neighbor was young and didn't really know what he was doing. The first thing he said to the neighbor was "I personally don't care where you build the fence, but someday if I sell this place the new owners probably will, and you're about a foot over the property line." And he pointed to two steel surveying stakes, one in a bush and another between our garages. The neighbor smiled, took a big step backwards, and started digging a new post hole. 😉