The 2023 MOZA Sim Racing Buyer's Guide & Comparison
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- Over the past 18 months, Moza Racing have continued to release new products at an impressive rate, so today we're taking a look at their entire ecosystem! In this video we'll take you through each product currently available, and compare it not only with alternatives within the Moza range but also with competitor products to help you decide which gear will best suit your needs and budget.
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Intro: 0:00
Important Information: 0:39
Direct Drive Wheelbases: 1:19
Quick Release: 10:55
Steering Wheels: 11:58
Pedals: 23:01
Accessories (Handbrake, Shifter, Dashes, etc): 36:29
Conclusions: 47:15
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I love my Moza R5 bundle with the brake mod and clutch pedal. It's not the top-of-the-line product but for a hobby racer it's a giant step up from a G29. I went from barely being able to stay on the track with a G29, to winning races in ACC with my Moza R5. Worth every penny! I don't see the need for 8lbs of resistance, the R5 gives plenty. Others have commented the same. Like Will says, you probably would end up fighting the wheel straining to stay on track versus driving. Something I just don't understand why you would want so much resistance.
whats about the clipping with the R5 at high ffb? (80% or more)
@@Lutzilla_ I don’t really get a lot of clipping and I race pcup in iracing. I got the gt wheel mod in addition to the clutch and brake mod since I’m racing mostly pcup and will move to gt3 when I get my b class since that was a $30 upgrade to get 85% there instead of 500 for a gt wheel.
Probably will get load cells before I upgrade anything on the base/wheel side of things.
@@wa11sY thank you!
similar boat... I have a G27 wheel and pedals. I already received the Moza S-RP two pedal set and really nice (have a clutch pedal on the way). The few laps I've completed felt good but will need some lapping to really get comfortable. Tomorrow I'll see the Moza R9 V2 base and CS V2 wheel. Looking forward to see what my lap time difference will look like on ACC. I was decently competitive on LFM servers (mid pack pace mostly) with my G27. Hoping I'll see a similar jump that you saw with your R5 from the G29.
Just want to say that I have had a bit of buyers remorse since purchasing the R5. I was about to crack and buy the g29 about 4 months ago but learned about DD mainly through this youtube channel. So I was saving up for either the CSL DD or the Moza R5. I pulled the trigger last week and My R5 is coming this wednesday.
So I started researching things like Wheels to get for it and FFb Settings and everywhere I keep hearing things like you loose feedback by getting wheels. And also issues about clipping like what @elkay7437 is saying
But this comment really eases the mind. I mean you would think that logically going from G29 to R5 at the very least will make things better than the G29 so its just disheartening to hear things like "oh well your gonna clip a lot might as well just go R9".
And its like wtf man the R9 setup is way more expensive. The whole point of the R5 is to start off on a budget and eventually upgrade parts out.
But this was my main question is how do people feel about racing in ACC specifically with the R5 and your comment + some of the discord replies have been useful. There are definitely fast people with the R5.
My plan is to use the R5 for the next 6 months at least and maybe upgrade to the R12. I do want more feedback response eventually but I dont think I would ever run it at R12. The point for me would be to run it lower and use the headroom to finetune details.
But for now for someone who has never had a wheel Im going to stick with my R5 and learn to drive with it. And get Loadcell pedals way before I upgrade the R5 to the R12. I also plan on sticking to the GT wheel mod for the R5 because Ill mainly be playing ACC (possibly I racing if I get the 12in mod).
Supposedly the GT mod is insanely good because the weight of it is halved making the FFB even more intense on the small wheel then it already was giving so much feedback to what you need to do.
A bit of buyers remorse initially but man I'm so glad to finally be getting a wheel, I been watching sim racing videos for months!
Great video. Moza is a lot more accessible in NZ vs Fanatec so the likes of available wheelbases and accompanying videos like this are becoming very helpful.
'More accessible' is an understatement. one is sold here, the other isn't lol
Yeah fanatec is non existent in NZ and shipping costs to nz are crazy. Thrustmaster and moza are really the only good priced options in new zealand
Here I am searching for how to buy your recommended pedals in NZ and this kind of sums it up. I cant :( But yes defiantly going to look at the base and wheel will be a good upgrade from the G923.
@@LancelotNZL I bought VRS Pro pedals from Aussie and the shipping was $180... And despite that they were still better value than buying inferior Heusinkveld Sprints locally.
i love that you clarify the products were sent to you, doesn't take away from the review and your honest!
I myself Have the R9 with the GS wheel, CRP pedals (most recent addition), and the H shifter, so far, looking at the RS V2 wheel to add in also. Great setup thus far, with no real issue's apart from one firmware update that for some reason did not complete correctly, just restarted it, and all completed fine. Very happy with the brand.
What about the pedals though?
Bought R9 and GS GT wheel about 1mnth ago and I’m happy i did it. Was watching your reviews too 👍🏻oh and QR is brilliant
In Aus, it's kinda hard to deny the availability and quality of the moza products. Went for the 9 and am stoked.
Which supplier did you buy it from?
@@BOKtober Pagnian imports. 👌
@@yolosubmarine thanks mate!
Re-entered sim racing world after 20 years of not playing any racing games, a time where wheels were atrocious and basic! I went with r5 and sr p lite pedals plus brake mod. Then purchased optional clutch, handbrake and h shifter. Can't be more satisfied! I was thinking to go with logitech or thrustmaster but after many reviews i got the idea they are still built like toys. Couldn't see me after so many years not taking the opportunity to switch to the new direct drives wheels! ❤
That standalone module unit is a brilliant piece of kit. Well done Moza definitely makes me consider your products going forward. Great to see a manufacturer open up their products for more users outside of their ecosystem.
Have a small mige osw unit that I'm currently setting up and going through the process of making Fanatec rim compatible. Having a kit available and supported from the manufacturer is a huge plus compared to the hassle and cost of sourcing all the 3rd party add-on parts required on the Fanatec end and would definitely make me lean towards the Moza rims going forward if more rims were supported, especially combined with that excellent quick release.
Many look at the maximum peak N.m of the motor and think that is the guideline. I would suggest that having the overhead above the level you want is very important. I use my Fanatec DD2 for about 11 N.m and it just runs cool forever and super quick. I used to have a DD1 and find the DD2 to be more responsive and remains cooler. Overtime is worth getting a high end wheelbase even if just using it half way.
Just got a R9 + GT GS Wheelbase paired with Sprints. Such a great setup and solid. Moza software is a little.. buggy sometimes, has defaulted out of english at times and the RPM lights on the wheel seem to hate the computer being put to sleep but its not the end of the world. Great kit and great value for money.
Absolutely loving my R9 + CS V2 combo. Outstanding hardware
So it is possible to combine Mozo R5 or R9 wheel base with Fanatec CSL Elite V2 pedals? Do you connect the pedals to the wheel base or to the computer?
It's great watching all this and getting your views on these with some comparisons with other brands. But it would be good to have a comparison with the G Pro too. Keep up the great work 😊
Made those comparisons in our G-Pro review :)
I don’t really see it as a real contender until they have more wheels and/or a hub available so you can use aftermarket wheels with it.
I have the R9 + FSR + CRP pedals. I went with CRP pedals because I wanted everything to match up but I also upgraded from a Logitech g29. I don't have any major complaints about the pedals. The acceleration pedal is starting to squeak so I need to add some lube to it. The brake is fine but I think it could be better. I don't have anything else to compare it to aside from a real car or the G29 pedals, but it just feels too stiff for me and I have it on the stock spring. Maybe I just need more time on it but I also don't have enough time to enjoy my purchases lol. Love your videos by the way.
Great timing for this video, just as I've been thinking about upgrading from thrustmaster tmx
I have the crp pedals, and I had the csl elite pedals before and I love the CRP a lot more. I feel very comfortable with it, and I love the look.
I’m looking to change to a R12 wheelbase to upgrade from my fanatec csl elite!
bought my R5 Bundle before Christmas 2022. since that I ran about 5k+ km in iRacing, 95%+ on oval. and I'm truly happy with this set. pedals are also fine, however I'm considering to buy the additional stuff the the brake. the original is not precise enough I think.
I have the Moza CRP pedals and happy with it. I came from Logitech G27 pedals so hard to compare for me. Only downside was that it was squeeking (from rubber to metal) but that is getting less and less. I mostly choose these because I didn't want a mix of brands since I heard from our racing league some have issues with firmare and software.
Also I got the R9 together with the GT wheel. I am currently setting this up but I am having a hard time setting it up in rfactor 2 because I don't really know how it should feel. What is best way to approach this? For example when driving in the pits my whole simlab rig is shaking because the low motor RPM. I guess that is not normal? Also when setting it at 100% I almost could not steer it :D Maybe I need more muscle XD I can not imagine someone someone would need more then 9NM except when you are real racing driver
Hey Will, Moza just released a new 12" diameter ES steering wheel upgrade like the Formula wheel. Hopefully you will get to try it out and see if it effects feedback, especially in the R5 base.
Just got my R5 set this weekend (yesterday at 3pm 2b precise) upgrade from the original white Xbox 360 wheel and pedals , besides not getting them to work with the forza games I was able to play with assetto Corsa with them and I am here to tell you oh what a damn difference and I know for a fact I haven't even got them dialed in yet I absolutely love my R5 I can't wait to get off work and go home tonight and get back on them
Great Videos as always, something I would like to see more of is a comparison to the Logitech lower end line of products, I think a lot of people watching this video, including myself, are looking to upgrade from a low end belt driven system to a direct drive system. It would be great to get a comparison for the average consumer especially for the CRP pedals, It is hard to understand if I should get them if I have never tried the hardware you are mentioning like the Clubsport V3's.
i got a t300rs gt 2 years ago, it's really exciting all the options available now.
Got the moza r9 like 2 weeks ago and have been really enjoying it, I’ve been really impressed by the amount of power you get from such a small cube especially when compared to my old t300. I have both the GS GT, and ES wheel and have been loving both thanks to the quick release coming standard on all wheels it’s easy for me to swap between them depending how on what kind of racing I’m doing. The only thing moza’s missing is console compatibility, I really wish I could use it on my ps5 without an adapter.
How does ES feel on newer R9 v2?
Because of the smaller form factor do you feel more power compared to larger wheel?
@@MastiKaHathi it feels good, I’ve used it for iracing mostly and often switch between both wheels but I find myself preferring the ES cause it’s more comfortable, it does sorta dull out the lower frequencies cause it’s slightly heavier than the GS but it’s not that noticeable.
Have you ever used it on PS5 without adapter?
@@justincarver114 it’s not compatible without it so it won’t work but even using it, it doesn’t feel right on console. Until they add official support this base is only good for pc but it’s a dam good base so I’m not mad about it.
thank you for this great video! quick release is really amazing and as u said, its feeling somehow good when u put it on🤣
Thanks to your reviews I have the moza r5 and fanatec csl elite v2 pedals. Absolutely love them! One thing you didn't touch on in your video which is a big selling point for moza bases is the qr adapter allowing you to use any aftermarket wheel.
you can use any wheel with the adapter but unfortunately none of the buttons will work. It's an adapter for the wheel but does not connect the electronics. Just had a talk with Moza recently and that's a bummer honestly
Do you connect the Fanatec pedals to the Moza wheel base or directly to the computer?
@@BeautifulKrk to my pc via a powered usb hub that all my sim gear is connected to.
You can connect moza pedals to a moza base.
@@panavcreative for me using a deep dish aftermarket wheel for drifting that's not an issue as it has no buttons or switches on it. I also have the CS wheel from moza for gt3 and other racing that requires the use of paddles.
it's a masterclass. thats all i've got to say. thanks for this and for your channel - which is almost a College of SimRacing.
Hey, great video, just one quick point. At 15:04 you are talking about the CS wheel but accidentally show a shot of the ES wheel instead.
great video , has help me out a lot , keep up the great work
Have the r5 bundle with es wheel mod and break perf kit , also have r9 v2 with the gs gt v2 and srp pedals both are great bits of kit , only downside on moza buying direct 1, you will pay hefty shipping cost 2, it cant take them forever to ship. My gs wheel took nearly a month to dispatch , once dispatched it was in hand within 4 days China to UK .
I had hoped that you would cover details regarding R9 v2 and the multiple v2 wheels released, to clarify of it means that r9 v2 can also have wired connection to v2 wheels - opposed to wireless connection on v1 wheels and rims, since I have heard reports of people that had issues with stable connectivity
Amazing video as always! Have you tried the V2 CRP pedals I am pretty sure they addressed some of the issues in these. I have them and I really like them however I haven’t got the experience you have with so many different products.
Would love to hear a review on them if you ever do get them.
Where can I find info regarding the v2 version of the crp pedals? Do you know what they have upgraded?
@@SimonTysland so I don’t think they were ever labelled as V2 pedals more of a revision really.
From what I understand the change was made last year with them becoming widely available Q2/Q3 of 2022. There are channels that have talked about this such as Coyote Racing, might be worth checking that out.
nice thorough review thx. Here in Indonesia Fanatec products are priced out of sight so I will be choosing Moza when its time to upgrade from my TGT and other TM products
I'm in nz and have the moza R9 with the cs wheel and CRP pedals....I only have the logitech g920 as a comparison but in automobolista 2 I have seen a 2 second decrease in lap Times and an overall better feel for the driving experience... my only complaint with the CRP pedals is after an update I do need to adjust the trim input for the brake pedal as it will be on slightly .....only found out asf it felt like my car was broken through the kemmel straight 😢..but was only brake dragging.
I just ordered an R5 bundle with the break upgrade and the gt style rim. I'm upgrading from a g29. To be honest since I don't have a console, I don't mind the lack of support on that field. The other thing which is why I chose moza is because the price. I can get this a lot cheaper than other brands like fanatec, since my country is ass in terms of money. Also if you think about it, moza is pretty new to the game and they already "almost" caught up with the big boys. This is a very remarkable progress for a new company in such short time. They also aren't a huge company and stuff in terms of software will most probably improve. As you could hear on the video, they constantly pushing out updates on the software, which means "they hear the voice of the masses", so in my opinion it's only a matter of time before you can customise you dash. And also, being able to use their wheels with other bases is a huge thumbs up in my opinion. Even if it's a little clumsy now, it will get better with software updates, since the flickering and bugging out most probably comes from some software unoptimization. With the efforts I see from this company, I really think they will grow much bigger in the sim scene!
Right there with you. Got a R5 to upgrade from a G29, should be delivered today!
Yeah, it's certainly a lot easy to get hold of Moza kit because they're distributing it rather than forcing everyone to order directly as fanatec do. Post brexit in the UK that makes a big difference too. I could order a bunch of moza hardware now and it'd be here tomorrow morning and I know if something were faulty I can easily get a replacement because I know the retailer I'm getting it from has a good reputation. Not only that, fantac appear to have their website running on someone's old laptop - it's so slow it makes configuring what to buy painful. The times I've tried I've just given up - before I figured I'd have to just get a belt wheel instead (because that was all that the retailers who can afford a web site sell) but now they're selling moza you can buy a DD wheel with a few clicks on a fast website and get it delivered the next day.
One thing to keep in mind is that Moza shipping is VERY expensive and glacially slow. Expect to wait weeks for a package to actually ship. Highly recommend trying to find in country if possible
i do rally the most i love the simagic q1s shifter i got a cheap ebay ebrake it works
The downside of SR-P pedals that you talk about at 29:00 is probably a plus for me because I don't like heavy pedals. The other plus for these pedals is that their faces are completely flat, from top to bottom, and I can put my whole foot there, I found I like it much more than only pressing the pedal with the top of my foot. Although the pedals are a bit too short for such use.
A great comprehensive comparison video!! Do any of the MOZA wheels yet support auto-rotation for in-game steering lock (the equivalent of the "AUTO" sensitivity setting on Fanatec)? That seems to be the only glaring omission in their ecosystem. No possible way serious sim racers would want a single rotation setting per title, nor would they want to have to fiddle with settings every time you change cars when sims support auto-rotation for more than a decade now.
Went for the r3 from a g920. Its perfect for a casual gamer like me 👍
I have the Moza R21 the FSR wheel and the CRP pedals. I cant pick any faults with the wheelbase and wheel however. I would say the Pedals are a bit clunky at times. I have been playing around with them for about 5 months now and finally found a spring and elastic feeling i like. I would also say ive had to grease them, up with the grease they provide in the box. By doing this i have got rid of a lot of noise. You do need to mess about with the setup in the sofware this will also help with how they feel.
I haven't had the pleasure of racing with other pedals so cant compare.
I do however really like them and wouldnt change them.
on a side note what i will say is Moza seem to be doing lots of updates at the moment and since the last one im finding the FSR wheel screen freezing. Not sure if thats an issue with iracing or the moza software.
I use the r5 base, es wheel and srp lite pedals. I think the r5 is very suitable for amateur players, but the 330mm wheels will be a bit difficult, and the srp lite is a bit soft. Some shopping platforms and stores have springs that increase the hardness. I plan to buy gs wheel, I think it works well on r5.
Yeah, it's a bundle for people, imo, who fasten their wheel to their desk, put the pedals on the floor - and who never intend to change that. I have a driving force GT and the brake pedal is similarly resistance free, but I have the pedals on the floor under my desk and they don't slide around. Similarly you can screw the DFGT to a desk and it's going to be fine because there's not a lot of force.
A really powerful DD wheel clamped to a desk would be an issue. But 5.5nm you're probably ok so long as you make sure it is secured (Sometimes I occasionally pull my dfgt off the desk because you don't quite get it secured well - which I wouldn't fancy doing with a lump of metal especially when I have a VR headset on and can't see anything)
Obviously if I got load cell pedals then I'd need to secure them somehow. You can't push several kg force and expect a few bits of rubber to resist the movement. So although you might be able to brace behind the pedals you're most likely going to buy a rig of some kind with a seat and so on. Once you buy a rig you don't need the weaker ffb. Nor do you need a table clamp and you don't need the cheap pedals anymore - but thats half the stuff in the bundle. So the upgrade path for the r5 bundle doesn't exist. You need a completely different pedal set (and spring set), perhaps a mounting plate adapter - and you have a bunch of stuff you paid for in the bundle that you don't need - and that no one else will want to buy from you either.
You'd save money by not getting the bundle at the point you want to upgrade it. So it really is an option, imo, for people who never expect to upgrade. Which is fair enough, I bought the DFGT in 2009 and I'm still using it 14 years later. I'm sure people exist who would do the same with the R5 bundle and they'll have a much better driving experience using it too than I've had - albeit perhaps the same issues braking.
But if you're thinking you want to start with some DD kit and, over time, upgrade it to build a better and better sim rig as many do, well the bundle is a bit of a dead end. You'd be better buying things individually imo. Specifically if you start with a rig - something that will hold a wheel and pedals securely, then you should get the sr-p pedals. At that point you could still get the R5 base and ES wheel and have a great experience - really you wouldn't need any "upgrades" that would make your laptimes lower. You could throw money at better VR, PC upgrades etc instead. If you ever wanted to upgrade though, well you'd have pedals that other people would probably buy used from you rather than just a cheap set that came in a bundle that only exist because they won't slide around on the floor - they're actually next to useless for their intended purpose.
Now, if the pedals had been such that the load cell was a upgrade kit, well then it would be better. I would probably be more keen to buy the R5 bundle if I thought I could upgrade the brakes (and I mean upgrade properly not add a spring - I don't think their upgrade kit will really make it any easier to trail brake with them) - the other thing too is that if you buy stuff separately and something goes wrong with one part, you can return that one part, but with the bundle it's likely the retailer will expect the bundle returned. e.g I've heard of people having a switch on the wheel stop working - well you have to ship everything back in a box to just get the ES wheel replaced? That would suck. Maybe the manufacturer buying direct would replace one bit, but the retailer aren't going to have stock of individual things and they can't really return one part of a bundle for a refund etc.
Moza r9 paired with Heunsinkveld Ultimate pedals are a very nice match for me. Yes I do recommend spending much more money on your pedals than wheel. The r9 has plenty of power but some very solid pedals go much further with driving.
I am beginning to experience this in the pcup for iracing. I am getting plenty of info from the wheel (r5 w/ gt wheel mod) but controlling slip and trail braking constantly seems to be a struggle where I’m either over or under the limit rather than straddling it.
Did the same with the R9 V2 and the GS V2 GT Wheel but with the Heusinkveld Sprint pedals.
@@rob8141 Nice 👍. I could have gone with Sprints and been happy, but the stimulus checks at the time helped me 😆 afford pedals.
Just purchased a R12 with the CRP pedals and shifter. should have them Wednesday, you definitely have me 2nd guessing my purchase :( .
Had a ts-xw with the T-LCM pedals so I thought this would be a big big upgrade. Kinda just wanted all the same brand that's all.
Really like the idea of asetek. Is there any Australian business that are selling them? Or is it easy enough to get shipped from the global store
I've just watched your video on moza gear as it's time to update my gear but I'm very curious to know the reasons as an Aussie to why you choose to drive with your gear shifter and handbrake on the right side as opposed to the left as norm in Oz.
Literally perfect timing! I was considering building a Moza rig a day ago and this video just pops out to make my day 😂
What did you decide? (On the fence myself)
I ended up going for the R5, did not disappoint at all, it’s worth every penny. However, I find myself wanting to upgrade to the R9 at the moment to get more FFB. So I would say maybe go for the R9 because trust me, you will be upgrading sooner or later 😂
@@BruceBeefCake445 thx!
Thanks Man, i'm now looking into this range and wondering how i can get the range and using mind magic to get my better half to agree with the purchase...letting you know if it kicks off i'm blaming you.
I have just upgraded from the Logitech G29 to the Moza R9, GS Wheel and SRP pedals and am honestly astounded by the difference it makes once tuned in (took me a couple of days of tinkering to get it right, but was worth that time). Next upgrade will likely be the UShake6 for me. Great video.
I have the same combo, What settings are you running on your pedals or have you left them as default?
@@josephpalmer7950 I actually left the pedals as default, seems comfortable enough for me.
I want to know how much lap time improved after your upgrade to moza?
I currently have a G923 wheel, pedals and shifter, Im looking at the option of a R9 base and the CS wheel but still using my Logitech Pedals and Shifter via adaptor cables, do you know if this will work or would the set up be to adhoc and a pain to get going?
I have the SR-P pedals. Just upgraded from G923. So far, I love them. I did purchase the accessory kit and go for the strongest spring/elastimer combination. That suits me very well. Still a decent amount of travel, but that is my preference over a very stiff pedal
Would you guys recommend the R800 dashboard with an oval wheel and the FSR? Sounds a little redundant and would be great with the oval wheel but is it really worth $300?
Can some one explain me how the pressure bonding point works on the crp/SRP brake pedals and which is the best value?
I own a moza r5 set.I bought it 2 weeks ago.
I have a srp pedal. I play an ACC racing game.
After playing for an hour, the base gets very hot.
Base settings pit house ACC settings.
Does your r5 base also get hot?
As a result of this heating, the base may malfunction in the future.
do all passively cooled DD bases get hot like this?
I have owned a Simucube Pro 2 since January. I purchased an R16 three weeks ago when they started selling them at my local Microcenter store (Moza reseller, USA) so I could see how they compare. So far I have been very happy with the R16. I have not had any clipping issues like I did with the R9. I really love the Moza software...and their Quick Release is awesome!
I am going to switch back to the Simucube Pro 2 in a couple of weeks and decide which one I really like the best. It's a pain in the neck to swap them out. So far the R16 seems great. If Moza was smart they would have made R16 compatible with the exact same front mounting hole pattern as the Simucube.
Any follow up to this? :)
@@EthanDean57 When I switched back to the Simucube Pro 2 it definitely seemed like it was more responsive and had more detail than the Moza R16...but to be honest I think it is probably more about getting the settings on the R16 dialed in correctly compared to better community presets that I am using on the Simucube Pro 2. You can't go wrong with the Simucube Pro 2 but the Moza R16 with the Moza wheels are a really awesome combo at a great price. I would highly recommend them.
@@lazlo342 Yep, I have an R16 with a GS V2 and an RS V2. Just wondered how a Simucube 2 stacked up, as I felt they were close from the limited time I've had with a Simucube but fancied a second opinion :) Cheers
I am currently waiting for an R9 bundle and crp pedals. What was the issue that you had with the R9 specifically? Should I consider different pedals such as the heuskenveld sprints?
Ive got a R9 + ES wheel sitting in my shopping cart.
Throw me some recommendations for replacement pedals for the CRP's i just removed based on this!
How would you compare moza ecosystem with the simagic one.
For example the r9 vs simagic Alpha mini and r16 vs simagic Alpha
Thanks
I went with the 9 and the high end pedals. So it's a shame that you don't enjoy the pedals, hopefully I will still enjoy them when it all comes.
Ultimately it's better than what I had as I was on the old logitech starters.
What are your thoughts now, a few months later?
@@juliantaffa4089 I like them (although my only comparison is with logitech pedals so maybe other pedals are better).
I have found it's hard for me to adjust them into getting it feel "right" when I switch from game to game (i.e. ACC to F1 as those are the two games I play). In F1 they feel too sensitive sometimes and it's hard to adjust them to be quite right, but I think maybe F1 is the issue there.
great vid, does anyone have any recommendations on what stand or rig that i can get for like a MOZA r12 of r16, i dont have alot of space in my house so i need a stand or setup that i can move easily
That's some really nice editing
I took your recent suggestion on starting with the R9 and also opted for the SR-P pedals, non-lite version, with the clutch pedal and accessory spring kit. Mine will be delivered tomorrow and I can't wait to get it set up. I opted for the entry level wheel, ES model, but plan to order the newly released 12" is round version that Moza just announced this week. I really appreciate all your insight. You're channel has been a huge help in guiding me down a sensible path of trying to navigate the sim racing rig world.
I just want a round or d shaped 300mm wheel and ill take the DD plunge with the r9. I only want 1 wheel that does everything and to me 300mm seems like that sweet spot.
With what pedals would you compare Mozа without brake modification? With t3p? t3pm?
Can you do a rankings of sim racing cockpits and what you recommend
So for trucking sims. Would the r5 be a solid option along with the lite pedals.
I have the Fanatec pedals and shifter but want to get the R9 wheelbase and a new moza wheel. Can I run the Fanatec pedals and shifter with the moza wheelbase?
I'm looking to upgrade from my t300rs to a DD setup. Can someone tell me what a perfect setup is. That i wont need to upgrade later. I was looking for a r5 but on the other side it doesn't have enough torque. But what is the best? Taking an r5 and good pedals (not from monza) or taking a r9 with cheaper pedals? Cuz i don't want to spend more then 900 dollar. Thanks!
out of all the gear you have been i guess privileged maybe test , if you had to choose 1 set up pedals wheel so forth what would you go to ?
That metal plate on the shifter is not what makes it a gated shifter, a gated shifter has, well, gates, that make a audible click going into gear. It's very satisfying to hear and feel. The plate does tend to indicate a gated shifter but it is not what makes it a gated shifter. You can have the plate and it not be gated.
At the 9:54 you were using a drift rim can you tell me from where you got it?
that pedal info helped me tons buddy and earned my sub , now if i may ask will there be any problem if i combine the r9 with the fanated v2 pedals ? , tyvm already
Glad to have helped. You can use any combination you like on PC.
Hello!!! In Windows 11, do you foresee any updates for the Steam platform compatibility with games like forza horizon 4, the crew 2, bus simulations etc? Thanks...
This a perfect video for me ! As I'm looking to get into sim racing and was looking at Moza..
38:17 my R9 has E-Stop too. btzw great video about the hole eco system of Moza
Great video. I have just started sim racing with R5 bundle. Liked most things except for brake and paddle shifters. So I bought CRP pedals and the H shifter. Awesome upgrade!
1) Personally I like R5 base. Torque is enough for me and it has a small form factor.
2) CRP pedals are a big improvement to the SRP Lites. Also for the adjustability. You can tune most things to fit your preference. Throttle blip works also with this combo so that is good.
3) ES wheel is nice. Good size for most things. Like the button layout. Could be round instead of slight D shape I agree with that. Too bad I can not change to the fancier wheels but I don't feel I miss them now anyway.
4) H shifter is great. Good value for money and personally, gate pattern replicates my real car exactly, (except for I don't have 7th gear on it).
5) I use SIM dashboard with a 10" tablet. It is really awesome. You can swipe between layouts if you drive different cars. Much customization options here.
6) If someone wonders what game, I run Forza Horizon 5 now 😀
So now I feel very happy with everything. Should have bought the R5 base alone perhaps and added the ES, CRP and shifter. Now I need to sell of the SRP Lites and who's gonna buy that?! I might add a handbrake in the future. Happy riding!
i have the padels and the are ok but i have problems with the return off the padels sometimes the just dont reteun back to point 0 the keep it at 10% so i might change them to some others
Great buy MOZA I am trying but all it gives me a PC and I need a SONY PS5 ! Do you have it I checked through my iPhone but might try on my Mac tomorrow. I really wanted FANATEC but if they are real jerks and have mostly pc and Xbox so the heck with them please point me to the best deal I can get with MOZA thx
sorry if i missed it but how's the table clamps? I heard they are a bit long and can get in the way of your knees? Was looking to upgrade from a g920 but only plan on using desk setup for now
Good question, I agree.
Interesting that you have your gears on your right side considering your in Australia
I will be building my first sim rig soon and have been doing a ton reading and listening. What I am gathering about MOZA is that it looks kind of cheap and cheesy. However, people are saying Fanatec is made cheaply but looks premium 🤷♂️. MOZA seems very loud to use (pedals and paddle shifters), even the "high end" products. The quick release is great because it's a real NRG system. But I have also heard the ecosystem/software is extremely clunky vs Fanatec's. Any advice in the comments? Ivee been looking at Thrustmaster, but only because the Ferrari equipment.
So this is exactly what I wanted to see I didn’t like how the triple monitors can’t be pushed closer to the driver because
If you have had a Logitech wheel for a long time and you think it’s time to step it up then you should definitely get Moza R5 in my opinion it is really good it should be the last sim wheel you get unless you are someone that wants to win tournaments in iracing if you want to do that you should go for Fanetec it’s the top of the line sim setup good luck and have fun
thanks for the update
SRP-lite pedals compatable with R12 base too. And where is Moza KS wheel?
Anyone else having issues with the crp pedals ? I have the 3 set I just got it and my throttle isn't working. It doesn't shoe the movement in the software and it doesn't work in any games either. I have update the firmware already and made sure the connection was secured and tried different USB ports on my computer and nothing has worked
I had a problem with srp pedals, pressure sensor suddenly died after 1 month of use , but I got a refund so its pretty good , and yeah this pedals are pretty good
Hey Will! Just a quick question & hoping to get an answer: would it be best to mount triples directly onto the cockpit in a Motion Sim? Or keep the triples on a freestanding mount?
It’s Bette Efron an immersion perspective to have the screens move with the rig. But it may not be practical to do so depending on the screens.
I’m thinking of buying the R9 with the ES wheel and mod. However buying through a reseller is much cheaper than direct from Moza, at least here in Portugal
I would like to know how the ES and R9 would feel
Have you had any issues with disconnects on the FSR/GS wheels? I had no problems with R9 and CS combo. But get wheel disconnects nearly every session with the FSR
Seems to be quite a common issue with a lot of people.
I haven’t had the wheel disconnect at all. But as I mentioned in the video I get some weird behaviour with the screen.
I have this all the time. Moza told me it is an issue with the Bluetooth receiver in the r9 v1 base. I am in the process of getting my second replacement for this issue. Contact moza support and where you bought it from. They will want a video of it happening
is there any lead if moza will let us use simhub in the FSR wheel?
38:18 "E-stop port is only on R16 and R21 bases" - My R9 v1 base also has E-stop port. Maybe my base is a bit newer than yours.
Plz could you review the gt omega titan coz I need an upgrade from a wheel stand
How many NM should u have for drifting games?
Can you do one for Fanatec? I dont know which one to choose between Moza and Fanatec. Thanks for this video.
We have - boostedmedia.net/technology/2020-fanatec-sim-racing-buyers-guide/
hilariously i got a fanatec ad while watching this. lol
I'm glad there's a company like Moza that can provide an alternative to Fanatec but I am a bit baffled about the cross compatibility of the different tiers. Like why can't all wheel rims work on any base? And also 3 different pedals tiers doesn't really make sense.
I think the confusing wheels compatibility stems from the fact they first decided to go with only wireless connection, but later found out it has issues for some people, plus they wanted to dip into the cheapest tier of DD. This required adding a wired connection (through the base, not a separate cable), and this is what they are doing right now - upgrading their wireless-only products to "v2" versions that support both wireless and wired.
V1 wheels are not compatible with R5 wheelbases correct ?
I have been using a R9 with CRP pedals since boosted media release their first review about R9 and i have been really satisfied and about the pedals yes it is true that it is a pain to remove the elastomer but once i found the one i like i dont need to touch it anymore and i have found no issue with the elastomer being too soft after a long drive i usually simrace for 2-3h once every few days. I may have got a good elastomer or maybe boosted media got a bad one ? i dont know but i have no complaints about it. Though yes it was a bit more expensive than other solution but im still happy with my purchase since fanatec was always out of stock and Moza had stock and it deliver really quick.
How cool is the clutch? Is it pretty heavy? Does it feel pretty real? It’s the selling point for me if I were to buy the crp pedals
@@driftingbrandonc.6480 clutch is like medium to then super soft so if you can change the friction point in the game to the last stage of the clutch its a nice feeling
@@xmatx9403 I got my crp pedals in. The clutch is heavy compared to the Thrustmaster T3PA pro pedals. I love it!
i upgraded from a g920 to a moza r5. night and day difference. So much better
How is the force feed back vs simcube ?
I think Fanatec is stretching their luck by miles at this point. QR is horrible, QR2 has been teased, it feels like, for years but still no release date. New products are announced then released after such a long period of time (Bentley wheel is an example). Still no dedicated Formula wheel with screen (other than teased Bentley which is probably going to be 2k due to useless real car compatibility) no illuminated buttons etc
Moza it's on fire at the same time. If I had to buy it all over again I'd definitely consider Moza over Fanatec at this price point
QR2 was announced at the same time as the M4 GT3 wheel, which was December 2021. So it has been well over a year. I really hope they come out with some new stuff soon. There’s a big Clubsport sized hole between the CSL DD and now 4 year old Podium range.
Csw dd would be great or dd3🔥
What wheel stand should i use for Moza R9 if someone could help me