Gooseneck Vs Bumper Pull: which hitch is better for you?
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
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We are tackling the subject of which is better for you, a gooseneck or bumper pull hitch. One may be better than the other for you. Check out our video and let us know in the comments which type you use or you are looking at getting. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The very best thing about having a gooseneck trailer is that no one will come over and want to borrow your trailer.
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no semi truck is best :troll:
Hahahahahha
They will want to borrow the truck and trailer
It's like loaning out tools, something I never do, plus if they break it, they won't fix or replace what they broke.@@haroldlanglois8986
I like that some companies are doing this now, giving real information to inform people rather than just trying to sell a product
True that! I've seen asshat salesman convince RV newbies that their 1/2 ton could pull a 25' tt "no problem "
@@salempoor678 or the flip side, the car dealer convince someone they need a F350 dually to pull a 15 foot double horse trailer.
@@SilverStarHeggisist I thought if you have horses it's a unspoken rule that you need a dually to be cool
During my 8+ year of business I’ve owned 3 bumper pull trailers. Last year I purchased my first GN trailer, a PJ 14ft dump trailer, and let me just say from this point on I’m Gooseneck forever the ride is just smoother! Took a while to get the hang of but nothing serious it was scary how when I would park I’d be 90 degrees 😂😂
You can just get both
People may not have the money or the space to have two trailers!?
PS Excavations LLC you are crazy
You can put the ball on the bumper up higher and then pull a gooseneck with the bumper. Problem solved I’m a genius
Hook one trailer to the bumper, then set a whole gooseneck trailer sideways on the bedrails of the truck. That's using the old noggin. You might have to use a wide load sign but that's easy enough.
@@macbook802 I've seen a ford explorer use this method. A bumper pulled gooseneck
Interesting intro and a great logo. Loved the energy. Cheers.
53’ fifth wheel: easy to use
8’ bumper pull: just unhitch it and push it everywhere.
Great video. Thanks for the information.
I pull a 26 foot gooseneck flatbed all the time with my 2500 shortbed and it pulls really well
Do you have to have a CDL to tow your 26 foot trailer?
@@TheLedueddifferent for every area
Very informative video. Many thanks for the teaching.
I honestly just came here for the 5th wheel comments.
I have a 20' 10k bumper pull. I wanted to upgrade so looked at some 14k 20' GN ones from the same manufacturer. The GN ones only had 150# more load capacity due to them being so much heavier. So I just stayed with what I have.
Cant leave out 3/4 ton and 1 ton srw trucks which are more common than duallys
Not sure about the 3/4 an 1 ton gm and ram trucks, but the f450 has a tighter turning radius than the f350, and my silverado 1500 needs a football field to turn around
@@masonstansberry2625 that's because of the wide track front axle on a F450/550.
Though where towing turning radius really shines is reversing. Getting into my driveway requires jackknifing the trailer all the way to the cab. If I had a bumper pull the same size I'd never make it.
Great information
4:30 Remember that time you said you'd leave a link in the description? That was awesome!
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Could also argue the smoothness of a ride you get with a gooseneck., going over bumps with a tounge pull always leaves you bouncing, as you front end pivots down the rear axle acts as a leaver point and your hitch goes up, thus yet with a gooseneck your mounting point is directly above the lever point, so minimal bounce will occur.
Backing up a gooseneck is easier with also tighter back up turn radius. But this will also come down to skill level. Not saying a bumper pulls hard.
You can typically get more trailer bed room behind the truck yet still having the same overall length of a truck/bumper pull
This channel so underrated it will grow big
Gooseneck ride so much smoother...load so much nicer. You can jackknife and turn so much sharper. Dont bounce.
With a flatbed on your pick up you can still use the bed
With a turn over ball you can use your truck like there's no hitch and when you need a hitch you have it.
Someone who is using their own head here!
Don't know where he gets the idea that bumper pulls are easier.
My 3rd RV is still a TT (26' box, 30' gross). My 04 Super Duty pulls it no problem. I can pull it anywhere, and I can back it anywhere. And the bed is free for bikes and other gear.
Great information and video with the Drone cameras! Is there a different on backing up? 🥸
Great commercial at 2:47! 😁
I've got a 2500hd 06 dodge 5.7 hemi, I'm set-up for both goose and hitch pull. I've been having trouble deciding on what to get???? The truck came setup for both when bought it.
Can I use it on my Chevrolet crew cab 2020? I’m opting more for the inside the truck lol I’m new to this I want to haul furniture and do some dumps which one do you consider getting
There is never a scenario where a bumper pull is better than a gooseneck. Ever. You don’t always need a gooseneck and bumper pull will work fine but it’s never better. First time trailer towers are safer with a gooseneck because the gooseneck is inherently safer full stop. Not always necessary but always safer. Don’t be afraid of a gooseneck. They aren’t always as convenient but they are always safer.
Very Good!..
when i make tight turn backing up, i found the trailer hit the rear bumper and scratched the paint off.
Good video. What kind of access you have to Texas Pride trailers. A few things you could have pointed out, with trailers with equal deck lengths, and gvwr.
1. Empty weight difference
2. Tongue weight difference, rear axle position if different (you talked about it)
3. Using a cone turning hard right or left from one point to another to see which trailer runs over the cone.
4. Overall vehicle length (driveway space)
5. Why you had to get use to pulling a gooseneck.
Agree with you there, he missed a lot of information out here, both types are great just depends on what you need a trailer for.
I would say goosenecks are safer to load heavier with a 3/4 Ton than a bumper pull would be with the same truck.
I run a lawn and landscaping business, don't haul more than a ton daily ( usually 1200lbs or so ), use the bed of my truck _at least_ 3 seasons a year, and my Dodge 2500 only has a tail hitch 😂 so that says it all.
Most trucks only come with the tail hitch. It's not until recently when the pickups started getting stupid (like 37,000+ pound tow ratings) that they started factory including them. Everyone else with older pickups you see towing had it installed or installed it themselves.
They're not that hard to install on your own.
Personally I HATE backing up a bumper pull. I rather back up my W900 and 53ft cattle pot over a 8ft bumper pull stock trailer
Hell yea tiny trailers are a bitch to back up
You only mentioned bumper pull trailers with central axles. How would a turntable bumper pull trailer compare to a gooseneck trailer?
It is clear that the turntable trailer is more difficult to manoevre and applies far less of a vertical load on the truck. But what would the other diffrences be?
I have a 1 ton Van. Which one do you recommend? ;)
Ok so, I’m trying to haul 2 cars on a trailer
I have a ram 1500 that we tow a camper with
I’m finding 2 car trailers are rare in bumper pull but easy to find in gooseneck
I’m actually a truck driver already so ACTUALLY I’m more comfortable with the gooseneck than I am with a bumper pull😂
I’m debating putting a gooseneck on the 1500 right now just for this purpose I need
Is a 1500 good for just a 2 car gooseneck?
Tks
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from south africa. here we have what we call a "disselboom" which is a single bar VS a A between the vehicle and the trailer, what you call a tongue. the length of the disselboom is long enough to get a full 90 deg angle....
We have that in America as well, but most people are just used to the A because that's the most common tongue here, but that straight pipe comes in handy when you have to make a tight turn in a small space
You were a bit vague about the loading of the trailers. With the bumper pull you can get up to a 1,500# tongue weight (with the right set up). But you can get about 5,000# on the gooseneck ball. The truck can handle the weight of a gooseneck better because the weight on the truck is right over the rear axle, and a bumper pull is far behind it.
My ram can do 21K on the regular ball hitch. But I can pull a 29K trailer on gooseneck (truck has 38,500 gcwr).
Lately is has been really popular to get a gooseneck for lighter duty trucks. I know several people that have 1500 dodge/GM/ford that can’t tow much(because they’re light duty). But they can tow more with a gooseneck because of the weight being over the rear axle.
That doesn't make any sense. With MORE of the weight being put on the truck axle, you are much more likely to be overweight at the axle, especially on a 1/2 ton. I see idiot RV owners buying 16K travel trailers, then they pull it with a 3/4 ton and end up being overweight on the truck. Need more troopers busting office jockeys in their "Dominator-toy hauler-simp Wagons" for being overweight, I'm tired of sitting in traffic every summer because they flip that pig on the freeway.
@@MoragTong_ I’m not saying it’s a good thing. Supposedly tow weight is amplified 10x from the bumper rather than over the center of the axle. Also now there are 1500s being produced with diesels that produce decent power. I think that contributes to the issue.
@@MoragTong_it makes perfect sense to someone with common sense.
Pintle for me. Less attention from dot here in texas lol almost all my buddys with goosenecks get fucked with. Yes ive had several gooseneck trailers but my rig makes the pintle much more useful
That’s what the company I work for went to. Less attention from DOT. We don’t have tires popping off rims anymore. We haven’t had a rim break either sense we went to pintle hitch.
It leaves your bed open as well. Then you can load it with transfer tanks for your equipment, service boxes, welders, ect... there's a reason dump trucks use that style
Get a gooseneck with a deck. Can't beat it.
Love mine
At what point does towing from the bumper become dangerous? I have a ball on my bumper 1984 Toyota 2wd.
I am only towing a small trailer with a golf cart and maybe a few tools. 850 pounds or so. Maybe 950. That even might be exceeding. You think I'm fine?
Depends what your tow vehicle is rated for on towing and the weight the trailer is rated to carry.
Almost any vehicle can handle a 1,000 pound trailer.
Think you may just get away with that!
Your Toyota probably doesn't even notice that
@@SilverStarHeggisist it did. It blew up lol
Is this channel all about trailers?
How about that BUMPER, who makes it?
Noticed it too love it
Both
Exactly what I can say depending on your load capacity of your truck and a trailer you have to have a CDL to drive it
Not in all places.
I need a cdl for 24ft gooseneck? Pulling with a f350 dually
@@rollingfender5599 Only if you are over 26,000 lbs GVWR. If you are under, you should be good.
@@jchirschfeld1101 thanks man
@@jchirschfeld1101 exactly.
You didn't address the heavier weight of the gooseneck trailers. I have both and often used the bumper pulls because I can haul more weight and keep within my licensed limit.
5th wheel vs gooseneck. I've got a truckwith 5th wheel hitch in the bed. Also have a gooseneck plate for 5th wheel rails.
The better hitch to get is the one that your trailer is likely to have.
RVs tend to be fifth wheel and work trailers gooseneck.
Fifth wheels are even more stable though as a rule have a lower trailer rating (20,000 to 25,000 pounds)
Goosenecks have more articulation particularly side to side, making them better for a trailer that might be expected to go on uneven ground, like going into a field or job site. They also generally have higher weight ratings (25,000 to 30,000 being standard)
In either case the hitch might be rated for one weight. But the rail kit for your truck to mount it will only be rated for your truck's factory weight rating. I found this out when I bought a 30,000 pound hitch for my 03 Dodge 3500 and found the rails were only rated to 16,000 pounds. I thought I was ripped off until I did more research.
Oh and 5th wheel trailers don't have nor need safety chains. Because it's considered a positive lock on the vehicle.
Goosenecks will still have safety chains.
Goosenecks especially turn over balls take less space in the bed. Because the rails all go under the bed and the hitch itself is smaller. When the ball is removed or installed upside down, it's like the hitch isn't even there.
Gooseneck hitches cost far less then a 5th wheel.
There are now good adapters that permanently convert a RV 5th wheel to a gooseneck. The adapter plus a gooseneck hitch costs the same or less then buying just a 5th wheel for your truck so it is a money saver on it's own. But the real advantage is if you already have gooseneck trailers or the hitch, you can make your RV work with the same system.
You should colab with big truck big rv
No they suck
How much different is it backing a gooseneck vs bumper pull?
Bumpers tend to follow a little better, and you cant jack knife like you can a 5th wheel or gooseneck.
@@alanack67 wait what? From my experience it's harder to back up a bumper pull and just as easy to jackknife with either (not very easy if you're paying attention)
@@comedyqwerty8772 they follow the truck better, i meant going forward. You dont have to swing as wide. The are easier to follow, but you can't jack them as hard
With a gooseneck you typically can get around tighter spaces, like backing into a parking space at truck stops with awkward parking angles or those awful loading docks at the shippers/receivers. It's exactly how big 53 ft. dry van trailers (and almost all other semi trailers) behave when driving 18 wheelers.
@@sandasturner9529 not really bumper pulls are usually much shorter than goose necks. 53s are different because it really matters where the axles are. With the tandems all the way forward they turn on a dime.
A gooseneck trailer can be pulled on the bumper pull hitch ball.
Not my flat front enclosed gooseneck. Also it would not go that low before dragging on the ground.
For a guy hauling brush in the city get a bumper pull but for heavy hauling get a gooseneck
I gross out 32k with my pintle 35ft
@@Maroon_Brick most pickup trucks can't do that. They need a bumper pull for that amount of weight.
Generally the bumper pull / gooseneck thing has to do with 3/4 ton trucks to around F450 ranges.
That being said, a truck pulling with the weight over the wheels is still going to be better, see every semi ever.
I have a 9 ton equipment trl thats a pintle. I wish i had a gooseneck so i could pull a small camper to tractor shows. Glad i dont because i pull the trl with tractor sometimes. I want a pickup camper to load on trk for shows well that could be loaded on nose of big enough gooseneck say 30ft minimum depending on axle placement for wieght distribution. Being pintle hitch and heavy people cant really borrow. Been helping nieghbor with pulling her dumper to landfill as i have my own pintle. Only 2 people i know have pintles her/brother (her trk her dumper his flatbed he does the driving) and a family member with tractors. I would have to un/remodify my exhaust on my trk to install a gooseneck on i believe and i bought the trl 8? yrs ago yes it needs suspension work bad but price was good and i really dont need another trl except a smaller one as i borrowed my old trl to haul a dead car and deckovers arent good for hauling low pro stuff
I have a 9' truck camper (w/wet bath) & looking to get a dump bed insert. Can still haul a trailer behind it w/either. Goosenecks are great but I almost always need to use the bed.
That's why there's a trailer for everyone's need
@@danielsharon524 turn over ball hitch. When not in use the ball is installed upside down. Making it like it's not even there. And when you need it, install the ball right side up and bam, you've a gooseneck hitch.
Even though I rarely use my off road Chevy for pulling I put one in that truck too. Just so I'd have a backup truck to move my trailer.
@@SilverStarHeggisist I seem to always need to use the bed when pulling a trailer.
On a gooseneck trail most people don’t know how to tow them. All they talk about is how you can jackknife them. What they don’t tell you is that when you jack knife you blow a tire or even worse you pop them rim off the hub. So does a goose neck trailer have a better turning radius. No it does not.
Try not having your tires under inflated. I don't even have this issue with my tri axle.
@@SilverStarHeggisist we check our tires daily before we leave the office. The company I work for makes us document everything because we are first responders. We drive in residential areas and sometimes have to turn around in a roundabout. We use heavy machinery on our trailers. I tried many years to get people to turn the trucks around empty before we load them, when in a roundabout. It just wasn’t happening. So we got rid off all our gooseneck trailers company wide. All 8 states. I thank it was around 3500 trailers.
@@stgraves260sounds like you need a safe space.
Best part about a gooseneck is all your friends can't borrow your trailer #1 reason I bought one.
This channel really all about trailers?
Absolutley!
Works for me👍 *Sub'd*
In other words rookies get bumper pulls pros get gooseneck
If your watching this video you probably don’t need a gooseneck. Great video though
Try to drive a gooseneck in Europe and say again that you need to make bigger turns with a bumper pull.. a gooseneck comes way more inside the corner so you have to turn in later !!
Either turn later or swing through about 2 lanes of oncoming traffic to get it around the turn nice and tight..... gooseneck is no joke.... they're good for tight turns in the yard, but out on the streets, you better be ready to get honked at for blocking traffic to make your turn
@@christopherrosas2738 or just you know live/drive in a area that has roads made for things bigger then a wagon.
In most of the US a gooseneck is still going to be smaller and turning in a smaller areas then a semi with a large sleeper and a 53' trailer.
@@SilverStarHeggisist true, but you don't always have the option of where the load is coming and going so you have to adapt your driving for the road conditions and your trailer..... for example driving in downtown San Antonio Texas you have to negotiate the turns different than you might out in the outskirts where things are more sparse
yea and a hitch bumper pull trailer is almost always shorter in length than a goose neck... But yea europe is way different too so Idk exactly how you guys do things there.
You better stand up straight haha, you always shrugging your shoulders going into a surprised/confused expression every time you say shit😂
You don’t need a dually to pull a gooseneck trailer, we haul horses with a 4 horse gooseneck trailer with a GMC Sierra 3500.
I think what it is is that people associate dually as 3500/F350.
I've talked to people who didn't even think they make non dually 3500s. Even as I'm standing Infront of both of mine.
If you're going to spend that kind of money on a truck why in God's name wouldn't you get a dually?
Gooseneck is the more stable choice.
Once I got mine, I'm never going back to bumper pull
3:48 If you really wanted to highlight the tight turning, should have pulled it with anything but a Ford. I don't know why, but Fords always seem to have the worst turning radius of any trucks out there.
Probably because they're longer then other trucks.
@@SilverStarHeggisist My mega cab Dodge is linger than most but still turns tighter than a Ford. Even their single can F150s I drove dont turn tight. Chevy is the tightest, Dodgd in the middle with Ford falling behind. Dont know about the foreign ones
@@TheRoostersGarage I was just guessing. I normally haven't noticed much difference between different trucks. But I haven't really tested them. Because I'm a mechanic, I've driven hundreds of all of types.
@@SilverStarHeggisist Years ago I was working at a factory that had both a dually Chevy diesel single cab short bed and single cab long bed Ford and of course the Ford couldn't turn but it was longer. I later drove a shorter Ford and the Chevy still turned so much tighter. After pulling several trailers with different brands and backing up in tight places, I began to realize the brand differences. I was gonna buy a King Ranch Ford once upon a time but the tightest it could turn was the distance of the double parking lot rows at Sam's. I decided that was just too wide, lol
Its weird the larger superdutys turn sharper than a f150 can. Its all in the geometry of the front end
I don’t know why I clicked on this video, I drive a v6 Tacoma and I couldn’t even get a gooseneck trailer
Heavy bumperpulls will eat your front tires fast.
Fascinating. . You can also get a few hundred lb addon to your bumper pull trailer’s tongue for your gooseneck pull. .
Chains are dragging on your “bumper pull” bro
I'm surprised that trucks turning radius was a factor. I have a 2008 F450 and its turning radius is insanely tight
The F450 has a wider front axle then the F350 (why the F450 and 550 have those odd looking fender flares on them and the F350 doesn't). That wide axle what ford calls a wide track axle, does is makes your width closer to your length and makes it so you can turn sharper.
If you got the exact same truck as yours but a F350 instead, it wouldn't turn near as sharply.
@@SilverStarHeggisist I thought it was called the tow boss option
I have a 2001 f550 and it takes a half acre to turn around so screw you and your tightness 😅
For a gooseneck you only need a 3/4 ton diesel and some 3/4 gas work too but not on huge goosenecks
The type of hitch is less important than the payload/towing numbers, no reason a retrofitted F150 can't tow an *empty* gooseneck flatbed
When he was laying on the flatbed with 2 straps attached to secure him and he got hauled away I laughed so much
😂😂😂
Is this legal in London
3:25 do u think there was a cut?
This information is dead wrong. I own both types in multiple lengths and a gooseneck will rip the front off a car WAY easier than a bumper pull when turning into a driveway or tight intersecting street. It follows the truck much more closely due to the mounting position, making you have to swing the truck much wider to make the same corner. Also...Goosnecks SUCK BALLS to back up. I can thread the needle no sweat with any of my bumper-pulls, but the goosenecks are a PITA to back into tight spots, because you have to push the truck out of position much farther to get the same angle of travel at the trailer and you often don't have the room to swing the truck that wide. Also...if you turn as tight as he's showing in the video with a gooseneck that has a decent load on it...you're going to break an axle or at the very least tear the tire off the bead.
You can put the ball on the bumper up higher and then pull a gooseneck with the bumper. Problem solved I’m a genius
LoL!! That’s awesome
good very good
No gooseneck when using a dump truck
You can't make super sharp 45° turns.......Murica the Land of the Straight's....
This video is extremely vague on good information. Could definitely give more accurate information than this.
texas pride trailers are junk, i have all kinds of pics (7 months of pulling junk!!!!)
No you dont
They’re okay, just heavy as shit and the powder coating sucks ass. Diamond C all the way.
Hate to be that guy, but shorten your damn chains! Dragging chains cause fires and weaken the chains.
Well fires depending on where you are. Not all places are california.
Though yeah, dragging them isn't good.
They probably didn't care in this case because they weren't likely going very far for their little demos.
@@SilverStarHeggisist anywhere in the western U.S. is a tinderbox due to poor forest management, just look at CO lmao. I get that they weren't concerned about it for this short little demo, but at the same time, do it right so people don't think it's acceptable, you know?
@@masonstansberry2625 Pennsylvania is so wet nothing burns. Our idea of a drought is, it didn't rain for like 2 days.
Need to shave dude
Can't all the barbers were closed back when this was made. Everyone needed covid hair
Cant understand why you would grow a “beard” like that. Patchier than a worn out pair of jeans.
Another incompetent YT channel. Putting up a dude that drives a VW Bug at his size, talking about trucks and trailers. Then the ignorant statement "usually dually's". This is another channel not up to snuff to be talking about the topic purported. YT, the king of incompetence and misinformation.
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