What if Ukraine didn't participate in Eurovision 2022? (Televote results without Ukraine)

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2022
  • Here is a theoretical video about how the results would have turned out if Ukraine did not participate. I took all the data from the official eurovision website. I hope you enjoy!
    Disclaimer: This video is not claiming that Ukraine's victory was unfair or unworthy, I think that Kalush Orchestra had an amazing performance and deserved the win. This video just serves as a what if! If there is enough support I might do this for the previous years as the results could actually change quite a bit!
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  • @guzmancas7
    @guzmancas7 Před rokem +427

    Spanish people seeing that without Ukraine they would have won: 😭

    • @alvaro_gl
      @alvaro_gl Před rokem +46

      Oh believe me, it took me one week to fully process it

    • @manuam98
      @manuam98 Před rokem +34

      Yeah, people here in Spain were salty af

    • @laurab7415
      @laurab7415 Před rokem +27

      It's clear Spain would win because more voting for Ukraine was for Spain. This is the way of Eurovision, a political contest for the audience!

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +6

      @@manuam98 we know

    • @Aiirriis
      @Aiirriis Před rokem

      Lol surely UK would have won and not that burlesque performance on stage

  • @szandorthe13th
    @szandorthe13th Před rokem +182

    The fact that switzerland still gets 0 means they were 12th or lower in every country

  • @RazHa985
    @RazHa985 Před 2 lety +431

    Just imagine Moldova winning the televoting after being one of the most hated songs in the ESC2022 season 😅

    • @abrielrobertsson4160
      @abrielrobertsson4160 Před rokem +16

      What? Most hated songs? Do you live under a rock or smth? We all loved it.

    • @RazHa985
      @RazHa985 Před rokem +50

      @@abrielrobertsson4160 A lot of people I know didn't like it

    • @MustiiForTheWin
      @MustiiForTheWin Před rokem +18

      I LOVED it from the 1st second it was released 😍

    • @NikitaPita184
      @NikitaPita184 Před rokem +25

      @@abrielrobertsson4160 wtf most of the fandom dislikes it

    • @abrielrobertsson4160
      @abrielrobertsson4160 Před rokem +7

      Lol keep dreaming. That's why it placed 2nd cuz we disliked it? 🤣

  • @ag7_updates
    @ag7_updates Před rokem +237

    we all now spain is the true winner of this year...

    • @darasullen8289
      @darasullen8289 Před rokem +10

      yeah, ofc, it is even not second in televoting😄

    • @shervalxd9122
      @shervalxd9122 Před rokem +25

      @@darasullen8289 This video is without counting Ukraine, in my opinion they got lots of televoting because of the war. So without them, Spain would be 2nd in televoting and 2nd in jury vote, which would make it the country with the most points.

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +3

      🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

    • @Aiirriis
      @Aiirriis Před rokem +6

      Lol everyone knows UK is

    • @ilinoelcarbon5355
      @ilinoelcarbon5355 Před rokem +3

      @@Aiirriis hahaha

  • @seattler1470
    @seattler1470 Před rokem +75

    Ideal results and the ones we should have gotten in may

  • @JulianSirian
    @JulianSirian Před rokem +31

    I always thought this was the case...
    There was an issue with some of the votes, going to the UK, when it should've gone somewhere else...
    I calculated that 2nd and 3rd would be a tight battle. I got it to around a difference of 6, but you have finalized it beautifully...
    Still, we will never know for sure...
    (and this is coming from the UK, who preferred Spain over our entry... 'Slo-Mo' was just brilliant...
    Still, congrats to our Sam Ryder, and, of course, the Kalush Orchestra...
    Great video...

    • @Tylantia
      @Tylantia Před rokem

      It's not possible to gauge how the votes would've worked, how this video shows. As we don't know how people would've voted, videos kinda moot really.

  • @vincentesc
    @vincentesc Před 2 lety +163

    Yeah Spain would have won...

    • @Nicolay_Pavlovich
      @Nicolay_Pavlovich Před 2 lety +1

      England!!!❤❤❤

    • @LucaGarzeli
      @LucaGarzeli Před rokem +19

      It's obvious. And Spain should have surpass UK in jury votes too without rigged votes. But idk it's only a contest.

    • @saraperez907
      @saraperez907 Před rokem +10

      i wanna cry eurovision could have been in my country 😭

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem

      @@LucaGarzeli y’all just making up stuff now to make yourselves happy.

    • @LucaGarzeli
      @LucaGarzeli Před rokem +3

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey i dont care if my country wins or not, i'm here for the show. but what I said are facts, original votes, before EBU changes put spain 2nd. its only a conteeest, no problem.

  • @gonnvargass
    @gonnvargass Před rokem +65

    Me siento robado como español q soy. llevábamos tiempo sin llevar una canción buena y este año llevamos sin ninguna duda una winner alert, y coincide con la guerra de Ucrania. Todo mi apoyo hacia los ucranianos les deseo lo mejor pero esto ha dolido mucho la verdad

    • @tuffin
      @tuffin Před rokem

      ya, justo el año en el que llevamos una canción favorita hay una guerra en ucrania. besides if you want to support ukraine send money to Red Cross, not to Eurovision 🇪🇦😈

    • @pascualcarrillo3021
      @pascualcarrillo3021 Před rokem +5

      Cuenta razon tienes y mas dicho con tanto respeto

    • @jodygrottino8257
      @jodygrottino8257 Před rokem +6

      I'd fell more robbed thinking about the past years, bottom 5 in 2015, 2018, 2019 was completely undeserved.
      This year you actually got a deserved good result, it's still your first podium in this century.

    • @fabioch8090
      @fabioch8090 Před rokem +6

      Totalmente, todos los años decepcionados y un año en que ibamos a GANAR va y coincide con la guerra

  • @candeelax_4817
    @candeelax_4817 Před rokem +38

    tengo clarisimo que eramos los justos ganadores!!! vamos españa CHANELAZO

  • @pascualcarrillo3021
    @pascualcarrillo3021 Před rokem +45

    This is the real top 6. Spain deserves to win

  • @jaysandhu3345
    @jaysandhu3345 Před rokem +23

    This is assuming that everyone who picked up the phone and televoted for Ukraine would not have decided to vote for anyone else. It’s the most accurate prediction you could use obviously, but it’s not accurate at all

    • @shervalxd9122
      @shervalxd9122 Před rokem +1

      Actually, this is assuming that Ukraine didn't PARTICIPATE at all. Still, I think these are similar results to what would've happened if Ukraine participated but the war wasn't there.

  • @vavah2071
    @vavah2071 Před 2 lety +72

    For info, I calculated it for 2021 without Italy and I got these results :
    1 - France 541 (257+284)
    2 - Switzerland 479 (283+196)
    3 - Iceland 400 (204+196)
    4 - Ukraine 388 (108+280)
    5 - Finland 327 (86+241)
    6 - Malta 281 (218+63)
    7 - Russia 235 (120+115)
    8 - Lithuania 233 (54+179)
    9 - Greece 191 (101+90)
    10 - Bulgaria 191 (151+40)
    11 - Portugal 170 (131+39)
    12 - Sweden 136 (54+82)
    13 - Moldova 122 (54+68)
    14 - Serbia 110 (24+86)
    15 - Cyprus 105 (54+51)
    16 - Israel 104 (81+23)
    17 - Norway 95 (16+79)
    18 - Azerbaijan 84 (39+45)
    19 - Belgium 81 (76+5)
    20 - Albania 55 (26+29)
    21 - San Marino 50 (37+13)
    22 - Netherlands 17 (17+0)
    23 - Spain 7 (7+0)
    24 - Germany 5 (5+0)
    25 - UK 1 (1+0)
    So, my country would have won being 2nd in jury voting but winning the televoting (4 points away from Ukraine) and so, would have won with a 62 points Margin
    The results would have Been pretty much the same (only Lithuania/Russia, Sweden Moldova & Azerbaijan/Belgium switched)
    UK would have got 1 point thanks to Polish jury.
    Fun fact: Greece & Bulgaria still got tied.
    Germany, Netherlands, Spain & UK still got 0 in Televoting

    • @MustiiForTheWin
      @MustiiForTheWin Před rokem +4

      Omg UK with one point ahahah 😂
      And Bulgaria in top 10 ❤

    • @MustiiForTheWin
      @MustiiForTheWin Před rokem +1

      And Norway & Azerbaijan would be together 😂

    • @vavah2071
      @vavah2071 Před rokem

      @@MustiiForTheWin Yes, UK got 1 point because Polish jury ranked them 11th and so, without Italy, got 10th
      Concerning Bulgaria, This is not a surprise as WE take off the 1st and so, each country gain a place (in theory)

    • @justagirl_23
      @justagirl_23 Před rokem

      I love : my country 1st and my favorite runner-up

    • @escadil7410
      @escadil7410 Před rokem

      The video excludes Ukraine obviously because of the wae

  • @vsevolod7011
    @vsevolod7011 Před rokem +4

    For the first time since 2014, my favorite could win, but… 💔😔
    I'm crying 😭

  • @dusannn
    @dusannn Před rokem +1

    Perfect! Just perfect!!!

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene Před rokem +7

    Not necessarily the case, as the many people who voted for Ukraine would have given their votes elsewhere, distorting the public results further. Most people only vote once, and the vast majority for Ukraine. Also, we’d have a 25th finalist (most likely Croatia).

    • @dhilandass7986
      @dhilandass7986 Před měsícem

      wouldn't it be NM bcz they got 1 point extra

  • @Philipp19967
    @Philipp19967 Před 2 lety +59

    I think this is very hard to say because who knows the taste of the voters who actually voted for Ukraine.
    Maybe they would have voted mostly for Sweden instead or Italy etc. Just making the second highest vote the highest vote for each country doesn't really work in my opinion

    • @renemortensen5028
      @renemortensen5028 Před 2 lety +10

      not that different. Most people voted for their favorite and then Ukraine. Since aparently everyone did this then Ukraine will come on top on nearly every televote count.

    • @Philipp19967
      @Philipp19967 Před 2 lety +6

      @@renemortensen5028 of course I mean what he did in the video is remove Ukraine and choose the second place as first place.
      For example 12p Ukraine 10p Spain = 12p Spain
      But I said it isn't that easy because we don't know the taste of the Ukraine voters

    • @renemortensen5028
      @renemortensen5028 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Philipp19967 lets try again. A huge majority of voters voted on favorites and Ukraine. Therefore without Ukraine the result would be very simular.

    • @Philipp19967
      @Philipp19967 Před 2 lety +5

      @@renemortensen5028 how do you know that/if people split their votes?
      I always voted for 1 entry in all my years watching. I never voted for 2 or more entries

    • @renemortensen5028
      @renemortensen5028 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Philipp19967 because this year is different. And the whole reason they got 439/468 points. It was way to easy to throw that ekstra vote of and say "i am a supporter".

  • @nilerra8181
    @nilerra8181 Před 2 lety +22

    UK would have lost 12+7 points from Ukraine. Spain only 1.
    UK gave 10+5 to Spain. Spain gave 3+8 to UK
    Small details could make the difference sometimes 😅

    • @juanorieguito0410
      @juanorieguito0410 Před rokem

      But 6 countries votes was changed by EBU in this case UK won a lot of votes in countries with 0 points

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights Před rokem

      @@juanorieguito0410 I don't think so because the votes are calculated according to how their neighbours voted and at least in one country's case their 12 pts went to Ukraine. I think some of the cheating countries (it's pretty obvious when you look at their votes there was a pact between them to vote for each other) actually did have the same original twelve pointer as the algorithm calculated they'd have. Romania's twelve points originally would have gone to Moldova instead of Ukraine so don't kid yourself Spain you lost out there.

  • @Hugo_Mendez
    @Hugo_Mendez Před rokem +3

    So if Ukraine didn’t participate, Eurovision will be celebrated in my country!

  • @theosquiitar9584
    @theosquiitar9584 Před rokem +7

    Are you kidding me ? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🇪🇸

  • @do_mii1314
    @do_mii1314 Před rokem +6

    Me as a German: looks not different to me🤔

  • @franciscoflores1451
    @franciscoflores1451 Před 2 lety +13

    Good video, but it would be a little different because you have to see which country would it qualified in the first semifinal. The most probable it would be Croatia.

    • @vex6259
      @vex6259  Před 2 lety

      Yes of course, but unfortunately we have no way of knowing how the results would differ. However, I doubt there would be many changes to the final result...

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před rokem

      @@vex6259 Actually there is. You can use a country's co-pot voting bloc members to determine how they would have given Croatia jury pts. Historical voting through the year could act as televote for Croatia, based on the rank.
      For example, to find out how the Belgian jury voted for Croatia. Try combining the votes of co-bloc who participated in the 1st semi (Netherlands, Austria, and Switzerland) and see how they ranked Croatia in the average. For the televote, use the historical voting of Belgium throughout the years from ESC Database. BUt thats my method, and you can use another one for yourself

  • @theRAV4000
    @theRAV4000 Před rokem +4

    guys you don't know what would happen because you don't know where would Ukraine voters put their votes

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +3

      True! All those votes to Ukraine could have been given to anyone. Stefania and Slomo are very different songs and I don’t know if those voters would vote for it if Ukraine didn’t participate

    • @user-lc1it7hw4b
      @user-lc1it7hw4b Před rokem

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey ok.

    • @marcouhs470
      @marcouhs470 Před 9 měsíci

      It is a theorical video, removing the ukraine televote, jury and people that voted, not predicting what ukraine voters would have done.

  • @StarTheTripleDevil
    @StarTheTripleDevil Před rokem +6

    So instead of balancing the semi-finals by moving one country from SF2 to SF1, they instead just had 9 countries qualifying from SF1.

  • @_sountou.___m
    @_sountou.___m Před rokem +3

    I don't understand the public's logic, they gave 110/134 points to Italy, which was pain in the ears but 57/68 to Amanda because "She had flat vocals"

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem

      Both got too many points. But I’m guessing people voted for brividi just because it was popular

    • @_sountou.___m
      @_sountou.___m Před rokem +1

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey Overrated you mean, because it was pain in the ears, everyone I know wanted to staple their ears during this performance. Massive downgrade from last year

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +2

      @@_sountou.___m yes it was pretty awful. Host entries are normally big downgrades

    • @dhilandass7986
      @dhilandass7986 Před měsícem

      ​@@livinglegendlanadelreythe only time since the late 00's, 10's and 20's only Azerbaijan 2012 has been a upgrade

  • @kieranedmunds2936
    @kieranedmunds2936 Před rokem +2

    UK wins jury, Moldova wins televote, Spain wins overall
    Would have been a 2016 again, this voting would have been much more unpredictable

  • @gainal9080
    @gainal9080 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's really interesting that Sweden would've gotten more points from the televote than the UK without Ukraine in the contest.

  • @yopyop1949
    @yopyop1949 Před rokem +15

    Every year at Eurovision there is a first place and a real winner. 💕

  • @pdv457
    @pdv457 Před rokem +2

    Worldcup + Eurovision win… I think i’ve seen all, i can die in peace now

  • @kylechen5054
    @kylechen5054 Před 2 lety +6

    Just a quick question: how do you give the 1 point from the six cancelled jury since their results were not published

    • @vex6259
      @vex6259  Před 2 lety +12

      I actually decided to not give out any 1 points from these countries. But I doubt the final result would vary too much.

  • @marshmelows
    @marshmelows Před rokem +1

    So much better and fair!

  • @alvaro_ocon
    @alvaro_ocon Před rokem +31

    Spanish people right now 💔💔💔 We know that without the Ukraine's situation, we have won Eurovision. And I'm a bit sad because this year was our year and politics affected us 😭😭 I hope the next year will be our year 🤞

    • @joelllorente13
      @joelllorente13 Před rokem

      litt

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights Před rokem

      You don't know that and honestly like the UK just take the kudos of a Renaissance and a top three place.

    • @joelllorente13
      @joelllorente13 Před rokem +2

      @@EmoBearRights I’ve watched that this year the people wanted to win Spain, and Spain win if Ukraine didn’t participate, because we win more points of the public.

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights Před rokem +2

      @@joelllorente13 Actually going by the televote people wanted Moldova to win after Ukraine. I'm sorry but you and your mates isn't a representative sample. If you're going by online a lot of people loved the UK and Sweden too - those songs got a lot of support online to the extent where even a trad British pessimist who knew our songs usually tank like me knew we were getting top ten this year. Trust me you notice when people online who aren't British say they loved our song. Also I think people who supported Moldova were either not as online or less vocal but it was fairly obvious that Spain, Serbia, Ukraine and all of the countries mentioned were going to do well this year. I think the only reason Portugal, the Netherlands and Greece didn't do better as the running order kinda nerfed them.

  • @MsMeyara
    @MsMeyara Před rokem +45

    Now, this is a top 6 I can totally live with (but I think UK would've won). Although if Ukraine had entered in any other year with the same song. I'd guess they still would've made top 5.

  • @carloscontrerasteva5231
    @carloscontrerasteva5231 Před 11 měsíci +1

    un año después sigue doliendo ver esto

  • @Thomaaas876
    @Thomaaas876 Před 2 lety +12

    We, France, would have gained a place! Yay! 😂

  • @sonsolessantander2592
    @sonsolessantander2592 Před rokem +6

    Si España ha sido la gran perjudicada este año, no sé si nos volvemos a ver en otra igual, ha sido muy injusto el voto del público dando la victoria a quien no la merece, tanto trabajo tirado a la basura por la pena.

  • @ivano6208
    @ivano6208 Před 2 lety +10

    Great video 🥰
    How did you make the countries move when the changed positions?
    Kisses from italy 🇮🇹

    • @vex6259
      @vex6259  Před 2 lety +1

      I used Keynote for the animations! If you have a PC, PowerPoint will work just as well.

  • @drakethewolf2352
    @drakethewolf2352 Před rokem +3

    My mom said that for her IS sweden the winner for ever.

  • @hurl968
    @hurl968 Před rokem +17

    Spain 🇪🇸🥲 this was their year

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +2

      It was Ukraine’s year🥰🇺🇦 They deserved this

    • @hurl968
      @hurl968 Před rokem +2

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey not really and we all know that :')

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +1

      @@hurl968 who’s we?

    • @hurl968
      @hurl968 Před rokem +2

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey everyone. Girl stop acting like a fool, you know why ukraine won

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +2

      @@hurl968 obviously not everyone because I exist. If you’re talking about some bitter British and Spanish because they lost or some Serbians and Russians because they hate Ukraine then yes it’s everyone but a lot of people believe this song deserved to win. Obviously not all of them think it’s because the best song but they have other reasons to think they deserved to win and those reasons are just as valid. But imo it was the best song and that’s why I voted for it.

  • @luckyluca3994
    @luckyluca3994 Před rokem +4

    Das wäre ein viel verdienteter Gewinner gewesen

  • @in_wino_veritas
    @in_wino_veritas Před rokem +8

    2 problems with this list: while we can easily determine how each single juror would have voted, we don't know, how those people who voted for Ukraine would have voted, just posting places 2 to 11 for each country doesn't do any justice and might be inaccurate. We can't assume, that no one of them would have voted. Maybe they would have voted for Sweden, for the UK or for Spain. Maybe for Serbia, Norway or Moldova. And the 2nd problem is that there are only 24 countries, this needs another qualifier, most likely Croatia. Uhm, I just would have given them high televote scores and jury scores from Austria, Switzerland and the other former Yugoslavian countries. Maybe 12 televote points from Serbia and mostly just replacing Ukraine with Croatia in these countries. I think, Croatia would have definitely placed higher than just 4th with the Serbian public. And for the juries, I would have looked up how every single juror in the semi ranked her, eg if juror A put her 8th in between Lithuania and Switzerland, I would put her just in between those countries, the problem is, if juror A put SF2 songs and automatic qualifiers in between Lithuania and Switzerland in the Final. Or sometimes, a juror's list might differ from theirs in the semi, eg they put Lithuania as their 7th favorite song in the semi, but now it's their 6th highest ranking song among SF 1 qualifiers. And SF 2 and automatic qualifiers might be tricky, maybe you can judge these countries based on how they historically ranked Croatia in their tops. (there's also a chance that many voters who voted for Ukraine in the semi final, would have otherwise voted for another non qualifier, like Latvia, Albania or Bulgaria, probably pushing them ahead of Croatia, but that's not very likely).

  • @Someone-td1jm
    @Someone-td1jm Před rokem +1

    If Ukraine didn't participate, but still was able to vote, the results would be super close: Spain - 519 points and the UK - 517 points

  • @hermannivision6222
    @hermannivision6222 Před rokem +6

    Lmao S10 would be 10th here🥹
    (as she should)😌

  • @arvinroidoatienza7082
    @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před rokem +1

    Ok I like your concept but you neglect to notice that:
    Aside from the difficult jury ranking system (no, they dont use the average system but something EBU cooked up back in 2018) which consists of 5 juries,
    Since Ukraine didnt participate in the 1st semi, one of the countries from the 2nd semi (most likely Finland) will participate instead.
    North Macedonia MIGHT have qualified.. It's a small change BUT it can have big impact.
    I myself did a hypothetical ESC where Croatia and North Macedonia qualified to the final instead of France and Germany (yep in case the big 4 participated in the semis) and it changed Georgia & Azerbaijan's simulated 12 pts to Sweden, not UK.

  • @siberiagelida2718
    @siberiagelida2718 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your video! ♥️ I think that without "the Ucraine situation" UK or Spain could win, I know is hipotetical but why you only show the televoting of 24 countries? Thanks!

    • @vex6259
      @vex6259  Před 2 lety +3

      Since this video assumes Ukraine did not participate, we can only get the results of the 24 remaining finalists.

    • @stephenmuckle4185
      @stephenmuckle4185 Před rokem +2

      You could assume Croatia would have made the final but it is difficult to say for certain what the EBU would have done in this situation. There is a possibility that they might have moved any one from Azerbaijan, Georgia or Israel to Semi final 1 (they were in the same draw pot as Ukraine). If Azerbaijan was moved it would have been especially interesting. We can assume North Macedonia would have qualified from SF2, but I could have seen a scenario where Azerbaijan and Switzerland split the jury vote and only one of the two qualifies, since they both did horribly in the televote and Croatia qualifies at the expense of one of them. Or alternatively both Azerbaijan and Switzerland qualify and Croatia steals the spot from Iceland. Regardless Croatia would have likely came near the bottom in this scenario. Macedonia the same more than likely, couldn't have seen in doing well at all in the final either.

  • @lebradox5052
    @lebradox5052 Před rokem +7

    spain winner

  • @beandrag9019
    @beandrag9019 Před 11 měsíci

    Mother Liu getting 150 is satisfying

  • @vavah2071
    @vavah2071 Před 2 lety

    Hi, how do you calculated it because the 6 countries who got their results removed only revealed top 10 of jury & of televoting so, how do you know The country That got 11th

    • @vex6259
      @vex6259  Před 2 lety

      I removed the 1 point from the 6 countries with corrupt jury votes. So, there are 12 points missing in total, but I doubt that would influence the final result.

    • @vavah2071
      @vavah2071 Před 2 lety +1

      @@vex6259 Oh ok, I thought you calculated average of same pot countries and so the highest average from the non scoring countries were 11th and so have 1 point
      IDK if you understand what I mean but anyway, I love This concept

  • @vadymiks
    @vadymiks Před rokem +9

    My God, why people are so obsessed with this song

    • @abdo-dr1tu
      @abdo-dr1tu Před rokem +1

      Maybe because the singer sang the song on a treadmill for 6 months for the performance and then delivered the best choreography this show has seen in decades and perhaps since it’s inception?

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights Před rokem +3

      @@abdo-dr1tu How does that make the song amazing?

  • @TumbleTower
    @TumbleTower Před rokem +3

    Why have you only got 24 countries in the Grand Final? There would still have been 25 finalists, because a different country in the First Semi-Final would have qualified in place of Ukraine. That substitute qualifier wouldn't necessarily have been 11th placed Croatia. Have you worked out how the jury votes and televotes would have worked out with just 16 countries (in other words no Ukraine) in the First Semi-Final, to determine the ten qualifiers. It may seem odd, but one or two countries (borderline ones) that made it to the Grand Final might have failed to qualify without Ukraine in the First Semi-Final, and so there might have been more than one non-qualifying country from the First Semi-Final in the Grand Final.
    As for the final, we don't know how people would have voted. Some who voted for Ukraine might have voted for Spain, some might have voted for Sweden; the list goes on. This is a lot more complicated to speculate than you might think.

    • @annikam8147
      @annikam8147 Před rokem

      i totally agree with you. Ich voted for Poland and Ukraine. If Ukraine hadnt participate I would have voted for Serbia

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +2

      @@annikam8147 yes people assume that everyone would of voted for Spain if Ukraine wasn’t there but I would of probably voted France and Serbia. Slomo isn’t my kind of music

    • @annikam8147
      @annikam8147 Před rokem +2

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey yes, I think SloMo is a nice song to listen on the radio and I have to admit that the performance was one of the best in the last years but the song itself is too generic for me. In general I‘m not a fan of these typicall dance songs in the contest.
      But besides this the discussion if Ukraine is an undeserved or a deserved winner is so disgusting. It is what it is and that people dont accept it until now is quite annoying

    • @user-lc1it7hw4b
      @user-lc1it7hw4b Před rokem +1

      @@livinglegendlanadelrey ok.

  • @ariccua6101
    @ariccua6101 Před rokem +3

    So Spain would have had its first win since 1969. Mannnn…

  • @zeljkamiskic2632
    @zeljkamiskic2632 Před rokem +4

    Just saying, Croatia with it's first semi result would be ahead of Belgium by 2 points, but without 3 points from Ukraine will be behind Belgium but ahead of Armenia.

  • @jorgelopezespada1247
    @jorgelopezespada1247 Před rokem +1

    No fr I did that the day next to Eurovision bc I wanted my country to win somehow😭😭😭

  • @Rgjudging
    @Rgjudging Před 11 měsíci +4

    THATS WAY BETTER

  • @escpower1144
    @escpower1144 Před rokem +2

    If Ukraine wouldn't particitape, I prediced TOP 5 correctly.

  • @franciscojurado813
    @franciscojurado813 Před rokem +2

    what software did you use to do this?

  • @mohamedtexas
    @mohamedtexas Před rokem +1

    I would have been happy with this result too

  • @jdaqua
    @jdaqua Před rokem

    Iceland got 10 in the tele in the actual show, and 3 here? was that meant to be 13 or something idk

    • @RazHa985
      @RazHa985 Před rokem +2

      Ukraine gave them 8 points in the televoting

  • @AcoN0Five
    @AcoN0Five Před rokem +3

    The Good Ending

  • @cdngiztoken
    @cdngiztoken Před 2 lety +15

    if ukraine didnt participate then either Albania or croatia wouldve qualified

  • @dorianbrlic8632
    @dorianbrlic8632 Před rokem +3

    Eurovision would have been different if the songs werent released like 3-4 months before eurovision started, more like a month or 2 weeks because people get bored with songs they listen over and ovr again for a long time, which happend with Serbia, Moldova and Norway

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před rokem

      Bruh Spain was picked back in January.
      Besides one month is not enough to build a huge stage and prepare the bookings, stagings, rehearsals and hotel reservations of 40 countries across a continent.

    • @jerryberry5480
      @jerryberry5480 Před rokem +1

      Majority of the viewers wouldn’t know other countries’ songs until the day of semi finals

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před rokem

      @@jerryberry5480 And one month is not enough for artists to promote their songs all over Europe

  • @sergonoseque9670
    @sergonoseque9670 Před rokem +6

    These are what I consider the actual results

  • @Vojin_Iva
    @Vojin_Iva Před rokem

    how to make such a system?

  • @buddy605
    @buddy605 Před 2 lety +3

    How did Iceland lose points?

    • @nilerra8181
      @nilerra8181 Před 2 lety +9

      Ukranian televote gave them 8 points. Ukranian voting was removed as well

  • @alesa5337
    @alesa5337 Před rokem +2

    I feel sorry for UK fans even in this their entry comes second!!

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights Před rokem +2

      It's ok it's nice to have our runner up record extended. We've now come second sixteen times and twice by one point from the winners in 68 and 88.

  • @davis_dfa9824
    @davis_dfa9824 Před rokem

    This is my dream

  • @oskarikultanen
    @oskarikultanen Před rokem +5

    Although my favourite was Ukraine and I voted Kalush, Spain would have deserved to win. And if Ukraine had not participated I would voted Spain. Chanel is so awesome🔥🔥

  • @guillemoreno7934
    @guillemoreno7934 Před rokem +1

    los resultados que TÚ quieres

  • @duartec7
    @duartec7 Před rokem +3

    This is a credibly result not the real one

  • @josee_b4286
    @josee_b4286 Před rokem +8

    España es la ganadora

  • @joseg.capitan7949
    @joseg.capitan7949 Před rokem +19

    Spain real Winner Eurovision 2022 ❤️🇪🇦

  • @EMILIAXPIGGY4062
    @EMILIAXPIGGY4062 Před rokem

    I thought UK was in front of Spain though-

  • @hanamnk
    @hanamnk Před rokem +6

    Question: how do you know these points that went to Ukraine, how do you know that they would go to Spain (most of these points)? And why to Spain?

    • @glows1317
      @glows1317 Před rokem +20

      they used the same televote and the one that placed #11 entered the top10 in each country televote

    • @ElCrispis2002
      @ElCrispis2002 Před rokem

      Spain only got 50 points

  • @carol_2093
    @carol_2093 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Why Ukraine exsited!!! We will won without them😭😭😭🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸💗💗

  • @Ri_F
    @Ri_F Před rokem +1

    Cursed idea: swap Ukraine and Switzerland's televote points.

    • @RazHa985
      @RazHa985 Před rokem

      Switzerland would've won and Ukraine would've finished 10th

  • @OfficialSpencer
    @OfficialSpencer Před rokem

    This just makes me more upset but whatever, it is what it is

  • @inakiaguilera2001
    @inakiaguilera2001 Před rokem +19

    Spain is the winner of Eurovision

  • @Mikehenford
    @Mikehenford Před rokem +1

    The results everyone cried for 😂😂😂😂

  • @thunderbird1909
    @thunderbird1909 Před rokem +1

    That s the real result

  • @jodygrottino8257
    @jodygrottino8257 Před rokem +5

    I honestly prefer the actual one, I genuinely think that Stefania deserved winning beside the war.

  • @jcano8112
    @jcano8112 Před rokem +1

    We wish ….

  • @Filipe89Ferreira
    @Filipe89Ferreira Před rokem +8

    Spain deserves the trophy 🏆

  • @OscarSanF
    @OscarSanF Před rokem

    Cries in Spanish

  • @toky2590
    @toky2590 Před rokem

    Let's just calculate what would happen if we remove all counties, expect Germany and Moldova

  • @liambadcoe4865
    @liambadcoe4865 Před rokem

    Unfortunately, it wouldn’t have been as straightforward as this in reality. Just removing Ukraine altogether wouldn’t have made sense. People’s decisions may have changed in multiple ways and that can never be predicted!

  • @gatodan24
    @gatodan24 Před měsícem

    It's wrong because Ukraine was part of one semifinal,si there gona be one more country

  • @rohansarangipatriotsfan

    12 points without Ukraine:
    Jury 12 points:
    9 - United Kingdom (Austria, Azerbaijan, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Georgia, Germany, Lithuania, Moldova)
    8 - Spain (Armenia, Australia, Ireland, Malta, North Macedonia, Portugal, San Marino, Sweden)
    Sweden (Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Israel, Latvia, Poland, Romania, United Kingdom)
    6 - Greece (Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland)
    3 - Azerbaijan (Greece, Serbia, Spain)
    2 - Italy (Albania, Slovenia)
    Serbia (Croatia, Montenegro)
    1 - Netherlands (Italy)
    Televote 12 points:
    8 - Serbia (Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Slovenia, Switzerland)
    6 - Moldova (France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Romania, Serbia)
    4 - Sweden (Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland)
    Spain (Azerbaijan, Greece, Portugal, San Marino)
    3 - Norway (Australia, Iceland, Sweden)
    2 - Estonia (Armenia, Finland)
    Greece (Albania, Cyprus)
    Lithuania (Latvia, Norway)
    Poland (Ireland, United Kingdom)
    Romania (Moldova, Spain)
    United Kingdom (Israel, Malta)
    1 - Armenia (Georgia)
    Netherlands (Belgium)

  • @marina4720
    @marina4720 Před rokem +15

    Spain is the winner!!
    España es la ganadora Eurovision 2022

  • @dima-dima
    @dima-dima Před rokem +8

    When will the Mediterranean gays calm down?

    • @livinglegendlanadelrey
      @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +6

      Hopefully soon. They’re so annoying🙄 Called me xenophobic against Spanish people for saying Spain isn’t the “real winner” and that they should stop sending hate to Ukraine and Kalush

  • @livinglegendlanadelrey
    @livinglegendlanadelrey Před rokem +16

    At the end of the day this didn’t happen. We don’t know what would happen if Ukraine didn’t participate. The results could be completely different. So just be happy with the place you got. Especially if you did well like top 10, 5 etc

  • @toky2590
    @toky2590 Před rokem +4

    I don't think that ass shaking would be more deserved winner that Ukraine
    My favourite song this year is Sweeden 🇸🇪

  • @mfeurovision7039
    @mfeurovision7039 Před rokem +1

    After this video, I see eurovision 2022 will be better without Ukraine, because Spain will won.

  • @orpheaslivitsanos
    @orpheaslivitsanos Před rokem

    Greece in televoting would've got 71 points, not 68

  • @lebradox5052
    @lebradox5052 Před rokem

    dpaoin

  • @MustiiForTheWin
    @MustiiForTheWin Před rokem +5

    Well, France deserved top 5 so much :(

  • @justagirl_23
    @justagirl_23 Před rokem +3

    Spain>>>

  • @escalec9719
    @escalec9719 Před rokem +7

    As Spain deserves it

  • @AlbertoWorld
    @AlbertoWorld Před 11 měsíci

    Even though I didn't like Ukraine winning just because of the war, I rather have Ukraine win esc than Spain, because I really dislike Spain's song

  • @john-alexcdmtv1627
    @john-alexcdmtv1627 Před rokem

    my home country can be 10th if ukraine did not compete

  • @abrielrobertsson4160
    @abrielrobertsson4160 Před rokem +3

    We're going into useless calculations in here. Moldova would have won the televote because it was second after Ukraine. So what are we even talking about in here?

  • @manujelly3156
    @manujelly3156 Před rokem

    If Ukraine didn't participate, UK should win as it was second. I don't understand this calculation...

    • @MiudmonDice
      @MiudmonDice Před rokem +1

      He pretty much just removed the points from and to Ukraine, and moved every vote under that up a spot. (like if it was Ukraine 12 points, the 10 pointer becomes the new 12 pointer all the way down to 11th place in a vote now giving 1 point.
      Spain just so happens to benefit more than the UK from this.

    • @jorgeoneer7127
      @jorgeoneer7127 Před rokem +1

      Very easy. Spain got more points from the public than UK. So, if you just give all public votes of Ukraine to the other countries, stadisticly Spain would have won.