(1391) Review: TiGr Mini Titanium Bike Lock
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 9. 11. 2018
- The TiGr Mini Titanium bike lock has been on the market for a couple of years now, enough time for any obvious design defect to become common knowledge. After a number of requests, I decided it was time to grab one and take a close look at it to see if there were some vulnerabilities that thieves could exploit. Suprisingly, it was really difficult to pick ( I did not manage to pick it before the video, despite three hours of trying - but later managed to pick it open twice). The lock is TOUGH to pick. The rest of the lock.... see for yourself.
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Common misconception is that titanium is some super exotic material. It's not. Titanium is only as strong as regular steel it's saving grace is that it's way lighter.
Super expensive due to the process to extract and create it. Doubt the lock is a decent grade of the metal.
So its stronger than steel on an equal weight basis.
Lighter and has better corrosion resistance than steel. But not particularly strong.
Its less dense for the same tensile strength. 1 lb of titanium weighs the same as 1 lb of steel. But titanium will for a sample of the material the same dimensions of a sample of steel have greater tensile strength and less weight than the steel.
Its has a similar strength but steel is an alloy and therefore when you say steel you have to be talking generally. Titanium is also alloyed with other substances including steel. For different reasons. Some of them are parricular to titanium and some of them are particular to the other material. For instance, aluminum is often alloyed with Ti because you still get the lightweight strength of the titanium but with a reduced cost over making the entire thing from titanium but with some reduction in overall strength and toughness compared to pure titanium or steel but still really good in respects to those characteristics. In steel, it functions similarly to carbon, increasing hardness and toughness but overall reducing the need for carbon for those purposes and increasing corrosion resistance. ie stainless steel. Thats not the only way to make stainless steel but it is used. Yes titanium is a often misrepresented metal. Both in its strength being overstated but also in how many other characteristics it has that are desirable.
As demonstrated here, unhardened titanium is roughly as strong and tough as mild steel of the same dimensions. It is significantly lighter, which matters quite a bit when determining useful load of a structural thing, since the weight of the structure directly reduces the useful load.
And titanium can be alloyed, heat treated, or work hardened in a manner similar to iron. But here it looks like a piece of barstock was heated and bent over rollers and then the tempering step was ignored.
The plastic wrap protects the bike from scratches.
Unfortunately it isn't too good at preventing theft!
that might be what they thought, but that's not going to stop scratches, let alone keep your bike from getting stolen.
Thatâs the best bit of the whole thing !
The plastic wrap is to keep shrapnels from hitting the thief. Otherwise they might sue.
Great review! The bolt cutters were certainly a surprise. Iâve been skeptical of using titanium in locks given how soft it is compared to quality hardened steel, but itâs nice to have some data to back up the theory.
Also, Iâm not sure what tool(s) you tried, but you may have been having difficulties with the core because this lock tensions from the back disc... at least the one I tried did. Even so, judging from your work, picking is definitely not the weak link.
LPL, while I share your skepticism of titanium locks, I wonder if titanium's affinity for work-hardening could be used to strengthen this structure via some sort of heat treatment? It would definitely destroy the polymer coating, but it might be an interesting exercise to explore titanium's viability in other components.
LPL
What is your hypothesis for what the Titanium alloy is made of? Titanium and Aluminium?
Anthony M Just a guess, but Grade 5 is what most commercially availableâtitaniumâ parts are made of...
...poop
SchmutzForDinner yes it can be hardened but it'll never be as hard as hardened steel, I'm surprised the lock held up so well as thin titanium is very prone to shearing. Perhaps a bigger slide hammer would have done it a lot quicker.
Titanium is a material with amazing properties, just not the ones that are important for a lock shackle. Really makes you appreciate what a great material steel is.
â@@ska042 No, not really. Titanium has great tensile strength for its weight, some alloys even outperforming mild steel but there are steels that are way, way stronger than titanium. And way harder, too. Although it is possible to harden a titanium alloy (I doubt the TiGr guys did TBH because, well, why would you, you could just tell the customer you did, how would they know), even mildly heat treated carbon steel will be much harder. the more tightly packed nature of the material simply lends itself much better to that purpose. One possible advantage of titanium is depending on what blade you use it might be more resistant to grinding. Being the extremely reactive material that it is, it will steal oxygen from the alumina if that's what your cutting disc is made of. That makes the individual grains less sharp and eventually it'll gum up the blade. Cutting discs made of silicon carbide don't have that problem. In all, I'd stick to a good quality steel if I were to design one.
That did appear to have some promise to it. The fact you couldn't pick the lock was a good sign. Even the 3 or 4 minutes with the slide hammer was promising. The bolt cutters and hack saw, however, well, not so much.
Perhaps Tiger will view this in the spirit in which it is intended - namely to have an opportunity to improve. I do think they have a good start. Perhaps the 2.0 version will make necessary improvements.
As always a great video Bill. Thanks.
I don't believe TiGr meant for this lock to be used for long-term, unattended use. Instead, I see it as more of a lock for people that want SOME security while they deliver messages or packages (like in NYC), have a quick coffee, or go in to grab a sandwich - while never out of sight of their ride for more than a minute or two. Also, you wouldn't use this lock on a LiteSpeed (many, many thousands of $$$), but it would be ideal for a common, inexpensive ride that wouldn't attract a second glance from thieves.
If they removed the branding and made it look like proper steel - it could work simply because of it's appearance because thieves would assume it's steel and pretty thick at it :)
yeah, as I mentiond in my other comment - beefing up towards double the thickness for the cylindrical part plus 1/4 of an inch instead 1/8 of an inch for the overall titanium "loop" thing would be a reasonable starting point and make it a lot harder to open!
Bosnianbill I didnât know what a LiteSpeed was so I googled it. Thatâs a very expensive bike.
Protip: Titanium is not some miraculously resilient metal full stop. It has an excellent strength to weight ratio, great thermal characteristics, and it sucks at oxidizing under normal conditions.
If you want to make a spork or an airplane (okay, with lots of aluminum besides) and go bald machining the stuff, this is fantastic. If you want your something to stand up to people deliberately beating the crap out of it, and all that other stuff doesn't matter too much, get some good hardened steel, and don't make it the perfect size and shape for bolt cutters.
Exactly. The best idea would to make it way thicker as that's the point of using titanium. You can make it much thicker without adding weight. There's no point in making it in titanium if you are going to make it the same thickness as it would have been steel, it's just going to be weaker.
Slam hammer section should be marked as NSFW...
7:32 aaand.. demonetized
Thanks for another great review, and for saying "speed picking" enough for me to aim for it. Just got my Revolver from Sparrows recently and I can't wait to add an ultimate adversary to the lab here at home. I also appreciate the exposure to Lock Noob, printed his pinning tray design this week. Keep up the good work, it's deeply appreciated!
I love that sign in the background!! Haha. Thats awesome!!
Needs me one of them for my own shop! :D
Wow it takes forever to pick and you make loud noises for 3 minutes with a slam hammer
bolt cutters: * bloop *
I know this an old comment, but who the fuck that steals bikes is going to carry bolt cutters long as their leg to cut locks or some noisy ass equipment?
@@mustangcody People cruising for bikes to steal probably. See bike you want to steal, passenger jumps out of car with bolt cutters, cuts lock, tosses cutters back in car, one guy drives away, other guy rides away (or tosses stolen bike in the back of the minivan they're driving).
@@mustangcody Joggers in Georgia.
@@mustangcody I guess you haven't seen people fit an entire grocery cart on their pants.
@@mustangcody Cutters were only 24 inches. You can fit them in a backpack. You can also find videos of people effectively hiding them down the leg of baggy jeans.
Thank you for testing this lock and sharing with everyone. I was swayed by their claims and how lightweight this lock is. You've saved me a lot of money--on this lock, on a stolen bike, and on my insurance policy which no doubt would have doubled or tripled if I file another claim for a stolen bike!
Awesome review as always. Just started watching you and LPL a few weeks ago and have learned a TON!!!
When does the "BosnianBill" branded range of home and vehicle locks hit the market?
Fred Gandt when LPL eventually picks it, it self destructs and blows off his leg?
@House of Malice ..Have you seen some of these locks be shot with over 120 rounds and not open? Then they pick the same model open within minutes.
Yeah, and what you want is destroyed
NYC, the Centre of the Universe for Bikethieves. Amsterdam: Hold my beer.
That's a really thorough review. Thanks.
I was seriously shocked you managed to get through so easily with the bolt cutters!
Excellent review!
The bolt cutter attack was disappointing. I donât think I would leave my bike unattended overnight in NYC. Probably not in Minneapolis for that matter.
Yeah, I was surprised when it cut all the way through! I had watched several "reviews" about how incredibly "tough" it was and watched several "testers" fail to cut through with bolt cutters. I also watched the "laboratory tests" performed by TiGr on their website that showed both bolt cutters and hacksaws failing miserably - and I kind of expected similar results. Goes to show that the only reliable test results come from IMPARTIAL and INDEPENDENT testers. I DO like this lock though. It really is well designed and super light, so if you are a weight weenie, this is a good choice provided you don't leave your bike unattended for more than a minute or so. Quick in-and-out trips are probably OK, but more than that you'll want something more substantial (and a LOT heavier).
@@bosnianbill I mean its titanium. That's usually softer than steel (but lighter, corrosion resistant and more expensive).
cointoss election I'm not in the US, but bike theft is pretty rampant in my city. Yet I rarely, if ever, see locks this big on pushbikes. (Motorbikes have ignition locks, heavy chains and the obvious risk the owner may be a Hell's Angel).
@@bosnianbill Could it be that you are just physically stronger than the other testers? Perhaps the Tigr inhouse testers are on so low salaries, malnutritioned etc that they really can't cut through them?
@@bosnianbill I was about to suggest to invite the LockPickingLawyer, since he is been mentioned being "the strongest man in the world" by Ottolock on cutting things. But it looks like you have super strength power too ;)
I think if they curved the flatbar along its short axis such that it has a cross section like ( it would defeat the bolt cutter attack or at least slow it down. The Titanium isn't a wonder materiel, 3al-2.5V which is probably the alloy used here, is only about as strong as cold drawn 1018 or maybe 4130.
It's not abrasion resistant or particularly hard, which is what you want to beat a hack saw attack, and the yield strength isn't nearly high enough to beat bolt cutters, which get their name from being able to shear, well, bolts.
Common Ti alloys also propagate cracks similarly to some aluminum alloys, which contributes to what you saw when you cut along the short axis. As the materiel sheared in the center of the cut, it propagated the shear crack along the entire width of the bar.
Great video! Thank you for showing more than one way to defeat this lock.
Nicely Done. I was not expecting you to defeat it so easily.
Send the titanium to Cody's Lab, he does metallurgy stuff pretty regularly.
good point!
Why do I feel like this channel, Ave and Cody's lab all share the same viewers?
@@peacefulsurfer thats because were all this old tony fans
His XRF gun should be able to test it.
never thought i would see a fan here and yes bill should send it to him
8:00 this is the best slow-TV I've ever seen, haha!
Excellent product test!
Thank you for verifying Gr wasn't and element. I spent a good minute trying to remember if ti was and what it was
"If you can break it there, you can break it anywhere, it's up to you, New York, Nuuooyawrk"
Ah my home....brings back memories...đ...a man with a pair of 36 inch bolt cutters can get anywhere lol
Boy, was I knocked off my high horse by how easily you hack sawed and bolt cutted your way through my fancy shmasncy tigr lock . I also thought being titanium would make it super duper safe. Oh well. At least it's light
heck of a astrong lock ,i recommend it because no one will wait that long while stealing a bike ,they would be pinched for sure,cheers for your work!
Great videos as usual, Bill!
If it's only that little spring that is holding the locking pawl up, then maybe a rapping attack would work.
Just spring hardened steel would be much more cut resistant. I guess the low weight is helpful for the guy who sweeps the remnants off the sidewalk
Excellent review!!! đđ
LMAO!! Only listening to the audio from 7:35 to 9:30 and it sounds like Bill went to a carnival!! Great video !!
Titanium is not stronger than steel for the same volume. It's lighter (about 45% lighter), that's it.
Good quality hardened steel will outperform titanium every day of the week where weight is not critical, and I'm sorry but .9 lbs instead of 1.7 lbs for a more expensive, less durable bike lock just doesn't seem that important to me.
It's a great design that would be better in steel.
Let's make a buissnes
Hey, I could use some titanium bar stock cutoffs!
Excellent testing !!! I didn't believe that you was going to destroy that expensive high tech lock, but I saw it worth the trouble. Congratulations you are fantastic !!!!
Gata say, I was considering this but the result was not only disappointing, but very surprising. Thank you for showing the significant weakness of this bike lock! Saved me 120$ and probably my entire bike as well.
As soon as I heard "titanium" I was skeptical. Titanium is great for surgical applications and when you need something as strong as steel but lighter, but other than that, titanium is more of a gimmick than a real solution. If the manufacturer hadn't made such an impregnable lock, I'd think the titanium was just a scam. It's kinda confusing that they would go with titanium rather than hardened steel, when they did so well on the lock itself.
Clue: It's a bike lock. Cyclists are always looking to save weight. I can imagine a cyclist with a nice bike who lives in an urban area using this lock while dashing into a coffee store, etc and then resuming his ride. A 3 lb steel lock on the other hand is like cycling with a sack of stones tied to one's bike.
@@capmidnite Iâve been a cyclist for over 50 years. I donât care how much my bike lock weighs. I care whether it will prevent theft. And if I want exercise, more weight gives a harder workout. The only cyclists who care about weight are racing cyclists. 99% of us arenât that.
@@Beery1962 I am a cyclist too, with seven bikes ranging from a folding Brompton to a $50 garage sale find 1980s Fujj to a titanium frame cyclocross bike. I care about weight. It can be the difference between a bike that feels like it's made of lead pipes vs a bike that feels lively and alive. I don't race, either. And I have a TiGr lock, Kryptonite u-lock and a cable lock. Each has its use, depending on the need.
Hacksaw: 18 seconds.
I've always wondered if there is a coating/filling that could gum up teeth of a hacksaw to slow down that form of attack. I know lead does (somewhat), but it is heavy enough to not want it on a bike lock. And it's kinda toxic.
Not surprising, titanium has high tensile strength for it's weight, but is quite easy to scratch.
like buttah.. i was somewhat surprised
@@colinpartridge4015 there are safety cloves that, when grabbed by say a table saw, they will wind super thin fibres onto a table saw's axle to stop it from spinning.
Thank you for this video!
I love the warning sign hanging above the work bench.
There's many kinds of "strength". Titanium is almost as strong as steel by volume and much stronger by weight, when it comes to tensile strength. Meaning - how hard it is to change the shape of it. That's why it's used in planes. Also it survives higher temperatures than steel.
But when it comes to cutting through it - hardness is more important than strenght. And titanium isn't very hard, it's much easier to scratch it, than steel.
Compare glass and wood to understand the difference - you can't cut glass with wood, and you can cut wood with glass. So Glass is harder. But try breaking wood and glass, and you'll notice glass is much easier to break than wood :)
Also - titanium is weird to work with - it feels "sticky", like it sticks to the tools when you go too fast and sparks like crazy :)
Waiting for WD40 to come out of the lock after that slam hammer session
Thank you for this!
Great video Bill.
Any suggestions for the best bike lock that you have ever reviewed?
was saying to myself "he wont be able to cut that with a hacksaw without getting tired or the teeth snapping on the blade" and when you plunged into it as fast as you did I was agasp, titanium that weak should not be considered such
the sawing took 17 seconds, that's pretty sick
The worst part was he seemed to only be sawing at a regular pace, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get through in almost half the time on a street looking over your shoulder filled with adrenaline as you are about to ride off on a $1500 mountain bike.
People often confuse toughness and hardness. Titanium is very tough and lighter than steel for the same tensile strength but it is not hard. Different materials with different applications
@@tiberiu_nicolae isn't titanium supposed to be very hard to machine? I wouldn't think a hacksaw would touch it either.
@@kevinliang9502 it is indeed quite nasty to machine, but more from a machinists ( :D ) kind of view. Hand tapping it sucks and bright hot sparks are annoying while grinding. Other than that its not too bad
I checked their website and got a piece of their interview where they have stated that they used the titanium which keeps balance between strength , weight , flexibility , cost...now high grade titanium is expensive....so it can be assumed that the grade of titanium here is low thus this vulnerability. I love the way you make videos..
Keep on doing the great stuff
Thank you for sharing, I was just looking at this lock. Glad you put it to the test.
I don't think the slam hammer is quite the length of a common dent puller. More length, creates more force, producing less effort and a quicker time of entry.
Bill, I was wondering: would it be possible to move the locking pawl using a large (enough) neodymium magnet from outside the titanium casing?
Based on the mechanism as shown at 11:06 and beyond, it seems to me that the small spring is only mechanism preventing the pawl from leaving the locking position as shown at 11:18 . The cam on the brass housing seems only to be used to lower the position of the pawl when opening the lock *not* to keep the pawl in the locking position. The cut out on the pawl is large and seems without a ridge on the side where the position of the cam would prevent the pawl from lowering to the unlocked position (visible at 11:09).
I'd imagine that a strong magnet could attract the comparatively large steel pawl by overcoming the force of the small spring, lowering the pawl in the unlocked position, unless there is a mechanism that I missed that prevents such a hack.
Same thinking here.
Hacksaw opened that up surprisingly fast.
Love the warning sign! I need one of those... đ
This is very good review of a lock.
Epic fail lock. Hacksaw through in a few seconds and costs more than $100
Titanium sounds impressive, and impressive sells. Same idea as military-grade aluminium, sounds great for marketing, but means very little in reality.
The first review I have ever seen that praised any lock.
"And now I'm gonna show you why they don't cut through the entire length to start off with" then proceeds to instantly cut through the entire length. The surprise of "that wasn't supposed to happen" is just hilarious.
Hey everybody,that was an oscillating saw,in case you were wondering why it didnt look like a reciprocating saw (it's a common misconception though)
"Pick two, light cheap or durable"
TiGr: I only want one.
Thanks for posting your videos
Excellent review..
Do they say what grade of Ti that is? Some grades are only about the same as mild steel, I couldn't have hacksawed steel as quickley as you sawed that, but maybe that's just me.
Watch AvE video on fasteners made from different material. When the spacial dimensions of the bolt are kept constant and when weight & corrosion are not constraints steel is best.
Doesn't matter what grade, all ti is softer than steel
@@leotam3372 Not Grade 5, better abrasion resistance too, it should have been extremely difficult to hacksaw grade 5.
So is there any lock that stands up to attack? I keep my bikes indoors when I am not on them after having 2 stolen and another one stripped of parts when they couldn't get through the 3/8 hardened steel chain I bought after the first two got stolen.
John, I think your solution of keeping them indoors is the best choice. I've seen bikes at the train station (really NICE ones) with great locks and chains on the bike rack, but missing wheels, seats, pedals, etc. When the owner returned, there was nothing left but the frame... If you MUST lock them up,use a long chain woven into the wheels and frame. Get yourself an Abloy 340 or better as a lock.
Always assume a lock will fail, the goal of any lock is to delay a thief so they get caught or abandon the attempt of stealing that one particular item.
@Lassi Kinnunen the bike that I had stripped was 18 years old and was sub $150 Back then. They took the front wheel and the seatpost hardware (seatpost was frozen in place with corrosion) so they didn't get the seat. Every bike at that apartment rack was stripped that night. Lucky for me, I planned to do service on the bike a couple of weeks later, so they got it still needing to have the bearings greased. Though for an 18 year old wheel, it was true and the tire was less than a 1000 miles old since I replaced that when I last did the bearings.
@Lassi Kinnunen my cut off for most multi speed bikes is $200, below that, they just fall apart. My current commuter with over 9000 miles on it was a $199 single speed from mongoose, I think I got my $199 worth of use, wheel replacement is scheduled for the 10k mile mark, chain is replaced every 2k miles, on my third set of replacement tires (gatorskins) that cost almost as much as the bike did for a pair. I'm a little more serious about my bikes than the $70 bike crowd.
Thank you, lockpick lawyer and lock noob for getting me reinterested in this field of endeavors
Great vid.
Any real crook would be using a body slide hammer, not that little thing you were using.
Those were my exact thoughts when I saw it. The hammers I've seen are 3x longer than that with a slide weight at least double the size. I give a more robust slide hammer 15 secs.
Even lockpickinglawyer uses a properly size slide hammer :(
0.7mm -1mm cut off wheel on a portable grinder. Will cut through tool steel like a knife through butter. But we all know this and as such its never done on here.
Also titanium's shear strength is low in comparison to equal thickness (not weight) steel so you could most likely shear cut it with two large adjustable crescents.
id just put a grenade on it and blow the whole thing up it's fatest way
Everyone who is asking about the grade. Doesn't matter, even 6al4v doesn't make it that much harder to cut
Grade 19 has a tensile strength about 50% higher than 6Al4V, but even that is about half of the best steels such as maraging steels
A decent grade of Ti will work harder like a bitch which is what makes it much harder to cut than Maraging steels which usually only harden with aging. Same issue with 660 stainless, it starts very ductile but if you don't cut with enough force it becomes nearly impossible to saw with regular blades.
I like the way you slam that hammer lol
i really like that you have so many giveaways, gives me the feeling that there is a chance i will win something someday. great videos, you and lpl have given me a lot of inspiration for the lock hobby.
Cordless grinders with cutoff wheels seem to be the modus operandi of all the thieves around here. I'm hopeful for the day someone binds one up, and gets a mugshot with half a wheel buried in their face.
I wonder what would it take to defeat a cordless grinder with a zip disc while still being somewhat bike friendly? Aluminum would at least gum up the cutting edge and slow it down, but be very bolt cutter friendly.
cordless angle grinder, is the unbeatable tool, used to deal with all and any bike locks. yes it is noisy, yes sparks fly, but no lock is yet able to take and stay tough against the cordless angle grinder.
@@colinpartridge4015 Tungsten Carbide balls inside a hollow steel D- Lock shackle would be extremely difficult if not impossible to cut with grinder.
Mr T How do you prevent them from cutting away the steel around the balls?
I think they use bolt cutters a lot. its silent. if you get good at it they will go threw the expensive bike locks very easy. like a karate chop
Thanks for this review! I would have had more confidence in this lock than it deserved. I'm still going to buy one for quick stops of 2 min to 10 min (max) Just a quick pop in to pick up a package at the Amazon store or to pick up a few items at the market. I like how light it will probably be and that it doesn't rattle. So probably a great lock for running errands But I still need locks for when I ride to Westwood (UCLA) and need to lock my bike for a couple hours to see a matinee movie. I like the PInhead system you reviewed. Any suggestions for a second and maybe a third lock? I'm not shy about using 3 locks in a college area. The master lock cuffs seem like maybe a good 2nd lock. I'm thinking of a combo of different locks were pro might be good at stealing one type but not the second.
My bike new was about 800$ so not very expensive but not super cheap either. Thanks! great reviews! very helpful!
Why not just use two Pinheads?
Thanks for the reply! I was thinking about that but if someone eventually figures out an exploit. They could use it for both. I thought maybe one lock that is hard to pick and another that is hard to cut.
i was going to buy one of these, thanks for saving me some money
compared to the 7 kg Kryptonite chains... I would prefer this one
Using the slide hammer, you woke my neighborhood up here on the West Coast...
i counted 31 slices with the hacksaw :(
I REALLY don't understand why there is any surprise here. Titanium was chosen because "The People" have some strange illusions about it being some magical super metal that is amazing for every task. It wouldn't be a surprise if they had made the shackle out of Aluminum, and it was easy to saw through.
Most 'normal' Titanium (by which I mean anything outside the aerospace or engineering fields) is quite soft. It should really ONLY be treated by the lay-man as expensive Aluminum, that has a higher melting point.
Side note: You noticed that the powered saw had a hard time cutting through that sample. I'd suspect that had a LOT to do with how INSANELY fast Titanium experiences work hardening. I'm surprised that saw blade didn't lose most of it's teeth.
If you have the time, I'd love to see how a rotary tool does against one of the scrap pieces you have left. I doubt it would be as quiet or fast as the bolt cutters. But one of those small battery powered Dremels would be easier to hide. So it is worth looking at how effective they would be at defeating the shackle.
REALLY!?! You have a Type A personality? (1:15) Gee, I never would have guessed. Could that be why you're so good with these videos?
Good video showing how easy it is to damage this lock!
Ingress attained via Shake Weightâą
I work with titanium a fair bit, it can't be cut with a hacksaw or bolt cutters, I suspect this is good grade 7076 aluminium.
Big2009Gee Iâm seeing way to many comments arguing about wether or not itâs titanium,I demand an actual test!
Big2009Gee there are sparks though and titanium sparks when you cut it, itâs probably just very low grade titanic
I don't care how high a grade aluminum, if it was that thickness you could cut it like butter with either option, which was not really the case here, and I've cut a lot of aluminum and never seen sparks.
Noah Zork titanium plated aluminum?
@@iain3713 I just think it's wrong to use metal from a ship that sunk over a century ago to make bike locks out of :(
"Bill, stop it. The slam hammer is not going to work!" LOL That's what I was shouting when I thought it wasn't going to work. Surprised that it did.
bonus points for also giving the metric dimensions
that slam hammer... it'll make you go blind
those sparks looked more like magnesium than titanium...
Cutting it also made it seem like magnesium đ
Actually, titanium isnt that much lighter than steel, it might really be magnesium. Is titanium magnesium alloy a thing?
Titanium is a very reactive metal, just like aluminum or cerium or magnesium.
maybe titanium coated magnesium
@@captainsuperrthicc5477 I think that unlikely, my guess is just titanium.
"It's 41 degrees and raining"
Man, we LOVE it when it rains and is 41 degrees... oh wait, he means "freedom units" :D
(The "cold" bit gave it away..)
I rate this lock and have owned it for over a year. The plastic mount did break after 2400 miles but was replaced at no cost by the vendor. Still give it a 10/10. That being said my bike doesn't go out of my sight even when locked up.
Like your workbench Safety Sign đ€Ș
well If a man can't pound it out in the privacy of his own garage...
I think the sparks and noise from the reciprocating tool might alert people that it was being stolen.
Which is precisely why he said exactly that in the video.
no one cares in ny haha put on a hi hivis vest you can do anything
Same people just ignore it not there problem, a circular saw with a straight through this in seconds, you really better off with a GPS tracker on your push bike or moped or motorbike (bigger chain can help as if there is a line of bikes they just go for the one that is easier to brake)
Fair play. Great product.
You have that Type A personality thing? Well I'm impressed.
does "bike" in the US always mean "bicycle", rather than "motorbike"?
No, unlike German that has distinct terms for both "Bicycle" and "Motorcycle", we use the term "bike" interchangeably. Sometimes it leads to a bit of confusion... Americans are notoriously lazy, so rather than expend the energy pronouncing FOUR syllables, we just use one and accept the confusion. Seriously, "bike" is assumed to be "bicycle". Now, if a guy walks in wearing full leathers and carrying a helmet and says "I parked my bike outside", common sense prevails.đ
Nothing wrong with wearing spandex shorts in a biker bar.
Am I the only one who is super skeptical of whether or not that is actual Titanium? I mean it's not above a company to flat out LIE about the materials used. I believe others mentioned it is a Titanium alloy, thus the mixture could have the Titanium be such a low percentage with the majority of the metal being something like aluminum or magnesium or a similar metal (say 1% Titanium, 20% aluminum, 70% magnsium, and the rest as trace elements - think a crappy cheap metal that they found that had trace amounts of Titanium on it and can advertise the lock as Titanium). I agree with others, send the remains to Cody.
The hardest titanium alloys can be hardened to about the mid 40s on the Rockwell C scale. The jaws of his bolt cutters are probably in the high 50s, and the teeth on the hacksaw blade could easily be in the low 60s. Titanium just isn't a good material for a bike lock, it's far too soft which makes it vulnerable to simple cutting attacks.
I don't know marketing laws but in material sciences it's common to refer to a material by its most common element. Hence a titanium alloy couldn't be the metal you described; you described a magnesium alloy. You could, however, have an alloy of titanium with multiple metals pushing the overall titanium content to less than half.
@@Klikkitse It's very likely that this is grade 5 titanium, that's the most common alloy, and would have been the easiest choice. It's about 90% titanium. However, even the fanciest and most expensive titanium alloys, or pure titanium, would still have performed more or less as seen here.
You can also tell that it has got quite a bit of Titanium in it from how it sparks when cut. Those bright white flares coming off the cut? Titanium is actually quite flammable. Kind of like how Magnesium will flare up when you get it hot enough and both burn well in CO2 rich atmospheres. Except Titanium can cause explosions if you try to extinguish it with water... Titanium fires are no joke.
This workshop is my dream shop
Thanks Bill
Oh no!! At first thought FINALLY a decent bike lock and nearly went to see the price. Then, lets see the rest of the video and, oh no! So NOT going to buy this!! Manufacturer must be contacting you. Thanks!
I used to work in the Aerospace industry I can tell you for him that's not 100% titanium the Sparks show some titanium in there but maybe mixed with an aluminum alloy aircraft grade titanium you're not cutting it with a hacksaw blade or bolt cutters
"I used to work in the Aerospace industry I can tell you for him that's not 100% titanium " and i have internet and can read! And with that you can read even on wikipedia that best titanium will be as strong as medium quality steel, your "that's not 100% titanium " its also solid indicator that your knowledge in the topic is simply non existant, if metal is 100% pure then you can bet its not strong, 100% iron have nice resistance to chemical corosion but its mechanical strength is bad, the same goes with gold for example, in movies they showing you how people trying to bite it to check if its pure. 99,9999% pure gold should be soft enoght that your teeth should be able to leave some mark on it...
@@Bialy_1 look up air Industries Corporation before you start judging dude
@@Bialy_1 that and I don't Proclaim to know everything just what I have experience in and you're right anybody can Wikipedia I don't need that shit if I don't have experience in it I'm not going to comment plain and simple but then again anybody can be a keyboard Commando
That slide hammer is a blood blister in waiting!
Looks like a better work out than a Shake weight !
What an embarrassment that lock is! What a joke. Hope the manufacturer is watching.
Yep crappy titanium I almost wonder if GR isn't a abbreviation for garbage
Titanium is not a hard material. Never has been. Easy to cut as expected.
Anybody that is NOT bothered by stuff rattling probably has some issues, lol đ Love the video!
I practice that technique almost everyday.