I just discovered your channel while surfing for motorcycle locks. Your videos are superior in describing the various locks but also demonstrating lock picking and disabling techniques. Sound, video and narration are excellent. I got on a binge watching your videos and Bosnian Bill's, sort of like watching a great magician (nothing up my sleeves). I watched the Bowley lock video and see they are offering a padlock soon. I'm hoping that that lock will provide a moderate amount of security for my motorcycle when parked outside its garage. Great videos, I'll keep watching!
This guy is a monster to locks. I'm eyeing the mentioned forever lock, and have a question in about its build material (steel vs. zinc) because as we all now know, zinc snaps like a twig when a bolt extractor is applied. Thanks, LPL! I may go with the soon to be released Bowley padlock and another manufacturer's chain but hate having to deal with the bulk and weight of a padlock and chain.
Get an Assa Abloy Padlock and a giant hardened steel chain. The number of people who can pick an Assa are very small and power tools are needed in a physical attack.
I was about to buy this lock and remembered your channel. Thanks for the advise in the beginning. Will stick to Kryptonite... as long as you don't turn to a life of crime! Thanks!
Awesome skills, and one of the best deliveries out there. In fact, about the only time I detect much excitement is when you're about to melt down or otherwise annihilate a Master™ 'lock'.
A bike light enough where you would want to use this lock, is expensive enough that you won't lose eyesight of it no matter where you go. It's perfect for that purpose.
There’s another scenario. A bike that is junkie enough that the lock is the most expensive component. Losing a bike costs the owner a lot of time and hassle because proper bike fit can be difficult. Therefore replacement bikes can be difficult to find. Therefore protecting a junkie bike makes sense. Next, the tigr locks both wheels and the frame so it falls somewhere between a cable lock and a U lock... and that’s fine because, these days, none of those types is actually secure. If you want maximum security, the tigr is only a viable option in conjunction with an additional lock made of hardened steel. I have yet too see a bicycle locked with two kinds of locks, but, in my opinion, that’s what is necessary.
Great to see this about a lock/company that has gotten so much hype and recommendations. Thanks for the info about the titanium - think most people actually believe they are _better _of with it.
Watched it too, then came here just to see if LPL had it done..... Should never have doubted it! Bosnian bill.....couldn't pick it, had to use brute force. This was elegant.
I have a TiGr lock on my bike at all times. I ride almost everyday and almost always stop for a coffee somewhere along the route. Which usually means a trip to the restroom. With this lock I can take that break away from my bike and be assured that it will be there when I return. I would not leave my $10,000 bike unattended in a high crime area for an extended period with this lock or any lock for that matter. The TiGr lock is perfect for my needs. Far better security than a cable and very light weight.
Interesting. Before I bought the lock I read reviews and saw videos where bolt cutter attacks were not successful on the model that I purchased. But that like I said, I only use it in a public area with lots of people around and only for a few minutes.
@@dlevi67 That is from an early model of the TiGr lock that was made thinner. He still sells the strap but it's thicker now. And the even more secure models are the tight loops meant to be used more like a U-Lock. They're both thicker and tighter to the frame and anchor, making it harder to get a bolt cutter head in there. Moe info on the manufacturing change here: www.tigrlock.com/lock-testing/
Exactly my philosophy. Dragging a heavy u-lock around dampens the joy of riding a high-end lightweight bike, while a cable lock is almost worthless in urban areas such as NYC.
I have one of these. I usually park my (old, but beloved) bike outside for just an hour or two at a time, and never after dark, so I was happy to pay more for a lighter lock, even if it meant a higher risk of having my bike stolen. And actually, since my old lock was a heavy old Kryptonite from the 80's, it might be a step up in security.
I remember when disc locks first came out how everyone said they were close to being unpickable. Now with a Chinese disc pick they can be easier to open than a regular pin tumbler lock. I guess one hopes that the thief has not been on the internet and bought one of the specialized disc picks.
For some reason, people just don’t attack them, and they gained an undeserved reputation... hopefully my videos will get more people in the game, and help lock makers realize that they need to do better.
If you still have the cylinder it might be fun to try a destructive attack that I haven't seen yet. Use a pipe/tubing cutter to separate the locking flange from the part of the cylinder that holds the locking "spike". The ears of the shackle could then be squeezed together and removed.
This lock was cut with bolt cutters in a second, and with a hack saw in about 4-5 seconds. It was so easy & silent, that I doubt any thief would try to pick the lock. Takes so much less time to cut it, that it attracts way less attention than squatting down by the lock & picking it in a few minutes (on the field it's slower) (The BosnianBill video shows how easy it is to just cut it)
Let's not kid ourselves; Just about any lock can be picked, if you know what you're doing. Most bike thieves aren't lock-picking experts. They use crude, quick tools to get the goods and get away.
Around 2 minutes for the pick in perfect conditions(lock in vice, perfect lightning, no other distractions) by the person who really knows what he is doing. I highly doubt that criminals of that level(bicycle thieves) are using such tools. I believe that almost all, if not all TiGr locks are defeated by some form of brute force(bolt cutters, hacksaw etc...)
Another advantage of titanium is corrosion resistance. Even more so than some grades of stainless steel. But you are quite right, it's not particularly hard or stiff. By weight it's really strong but by volume it's quite a bit less so than steel. And in terms of being able to cut it, that latter one is what matters. It's a very useful material for some stuff but I don't think you should make locks out of it.
Who really cares if he can open up a lock by destroying it. Any idiot can do that. It's not hard. I like the picking videos but sad to say I actually have to mute them in order to watch.
I cried when I saw how fast you picked this lock (mine). Another vid showed this lock being cut with a bolt cutter (sigh). Now I'm looking at Hiplok D1000 or Hiplok Homie. Also expensive...Can you get into these Hiploks? Can't find a video featuring you and any Hiplok bike locks.
Since you mentioned the Anchor Las locks in this video and I just happen to own one of their padlocks: Do you know if the core can be pulled on them? To specify: I own the model 833-3 with the removable shackle (they list it as grade 4 on their website). I would also love to see a review on their padlocks, especially in terms of resistance against brute force attacks.
I was just playing with my Anchor class 2 lock and was very surprised to hear you mention them, i think i tried to search for any videos you had made of their stuff but found none
I use this lock when I go shopping in good part of the city or want get a cup of coffee while biking. I would never leave my bike with in a really sketchy neighborhood. I use two locks when I know I'm going to do it. TiGr is expensive but it serves its purpose. I don't think it's any easier to break, for a professional thief, than any other u lock on the market. I watched couple other videos by this guy and he breaks Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit faster than this lock and caring that thing around is such a pain. With TiGr lock at least I don't feel like I'm caring a bunch of bricks with me.
@@minhnguyenle5230 Yup I saw the guy do it in the other video :(. Well, I'll still use it when I'm doing shopping in fancy neighborhoods and bring my other lock as a back up for for the shady parts of Chicago.
I carry two locks. One very secure lock for the frame and one wheel, one Tigr lock to lock the other wheel to the frame. Bike thieves don't mess with my bikes any more.
I was looking at it and I seemed I was just a really cheap simple lock but apparently no looking at it's design it looks very basic not very well thought-out but I saw another dude picket and I was a little bit surprised at the intricacies in it and spot of how simple it looks
there are some Ti alloys that get quite hard (50 HRC vs 55-60+ for steel), but it would be very expensive to make a lock out of it. the alloys likely used in this lock would have strength and hardness somewhere between your better mild steels and low alloy steels. basically, it's not bad, but not good either.
yea, that's the stuff used in some knives and things such as fighter jet landing gear. it's expensive and i imagine it is murder to machine. speaking of exotic materials, i wonder why metal-matrix composites (some kind of ceramic in a metal matrix) haven't been used in locks yet. yes, they're expensive and most are literally impossible to machine, but the strength and cut, grind, whatever resistance would be unparalleled. there's little reason it couldn't be used for the simple but important parts like a drill plate or a shackle. it would not be cheap, but it should be feasible for the deluxe model of the high tier manufacturers.
What about resistance to impact? Most ceramics are very hard but fragile. Some safes use ceramic (or cermet) in plates around critical areas, but they have the luxury of space and weight being relatively unimportant so they can combine materials much more easily.
Just got mine today. NYC. I hope I made the right decision.. 🤷♂️ Wondering not only how strong/reliable it is, but was it the best option for a Onewheel in the inner city?? I Already pulled the trigger. It here! TFL FTW. Am I gonna wanna keep it? ‘Return it? If theres a better option, plz lemmeno. Cheers! 🤙🕊️
Why wouldn't manufacturers require the core to be tensioned from the middle of the disk pack? It seems like a simple change that would negate most picks.
It's perfect for urban recreational riding. If you have a nice bike, you want to enjoy it without it being weighed down by a heavy lock. But in places like NYC, a cable lock will be defeated in 5 seconds while you're inside taking a break at a coffee shop.
@joseph crosby mecham I disagree. I bought the tigr because it is very light so that I am more willing to take it on my road bike. I have never had a problem leaving my bike outside a rural diner on a ride, but it still makes me nervous. At
Agreed! I takes me about 10 times longer to cut titanium bolts compared to the grade 8 steel equivalent (using an abrasive cut-off saw). BTW, I cut a hardened steel u-lock (Kryptonite) with the same saw in about 15 seconds.
Hi...where can I get this tool you use to pick this lock? I threw my key away by mistake and I would like to open this lock to replace with another. Your suggestion is greatly appreciated. thank you...Onix
you said when it comes to forceful entry, titanium has only a fraction of the resistance of hardened steel. A good titanium alloy has 90 to 95% the strength of good steel but unlike steel it wont rust.
90% of the strength for the same volume? That’s impressive! But consider that hardness is a key metric in cut and saw resistance. When a super tough titanium alloys hit 60+RC, I’ll consider switching. None are anywhere near that mark now.
There’s steel, and there’s steel. Even a mild steel shackle or body can out-do titanium if it’s case hardened. Once you get into the specialised, through hardened steels, titanium is way behind. What makes it special is it’s strength in relation to its weight. So it’s great for aircraft, not great for bike locks.
You're confusing tensile strength and hardness. Kevlar and Spectra fibers are "stronger than steel," but they're obviously not hard. You need hardness to resist cutters. There's a reason you don't see Kevlar locks on the street.
Wow, I'm surprised you bought this lock! I remember mentioning this company a while ago. edit: maybe a good compromise for a lock would be to use a combination of titanium and steel, using steel for the shackle but maybe titanium for the body? I guess at that point though its not as much weight savings and probably best to use steel only. I also seem to remember that the "shackle" part for these locks were long and flat, potentially making cutting them more awkward then a traditional cylindrical shaped shackle
@@dlevi67, this is an outdated video. The current models are almost twice a wide and a bit thicker. I don't use it alone, but it's a great secondary lock.
@@emma70707 Nothing outdated about the video. At best titanium is as hard to shear as mild steel... which is to say not very hard at all. The "new" ones are 1.25 inches wide, which at most requires 2 cuts from a small hydraulic cutter, and still ridiculously thin at 1/8" (3.2 mm). This is at best as secure as a cable lock - that is to say, not at all, but you pay for the privilege.
Ok, so hardened steel is harder than titanium. But could you harden the titanium? Because if so the advantages would be more than twofold. After a few quick Google searches I couldn't find anything so I'm just going to leave my question here
i still don't understand why you would use something like this over a standard u-lock. they take less effort to put on and offer much more resistance. sure, they might weigh a bit more, but most come with a mounting bracket so that shouldn't be an issue.
Do you know what would be great? If for all of your videos you had your neighbor come over, who has absolutely no picking skills, give him a set of tools and see if he can do the job, just for contrast. 😆
Titanium can be as hard as steel. Maybe not as hard as the maximised hardened ones but then again it is naturally corrosion resistant and doesn't need 12% chromium like the steel and it certainly is harder than the brass or aluminium locks. So i'd imagine it would be a good alternative for outdoor/marine locks.
but at least titanium is quite a bit harder than normal steel with titanium at 6 on the mohs scale, normal steel at 4-4,5 and hardened steel at 7,5-8. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness#Intermediate_hardness
Titanium is a rather different metal. Depending on alloy, it can be somewhat hardened to being quite soft. CP1 and CP2 are quite soft and scratch easily. I'd rather have a good Inconel or Hastelloy if looking for corrosion resistance or any steel alloy over a Rockwell C scale of 55 or greater. Steels can be hardened in air, while titanium requires an inert atmosphere and doesn't get close to steel in hardness.
Hardness is the key metric for cut resistance... a quality hardened steel at 60+RC will destroy the same hacksaw blade that will cut right through any titanium alloy I know of.
Mohs hardness - resistance to scratching - doesn't matter that much. It's not a very meaningful measure of hardness for cutting resistance. Rockwell hardness (resistance to indentation) is a much better indicator.
Titanium in things has become a sales gimmick. Its a good material for some purposes but i dont see in what way locks would be one of them. First of all is that it makes aloys brittle. For when forged or rolled materials are used its hard to beat good steel aloys. For components that has to be cast i would like to see more hardened Al-Si-Mg aloys instead of the far to common zink.
Titanium is not a gimmick when there is practically no such thing as a secure bike lock. They can all be cut quickly now. Am I wrong? If you are going to carry a lock around 100% of the time, then weight is a valid consideration. It all depends on what you are locking, where you are locking, when you are locking, and who is paying attention.
@@blackrockcity The explanation why its a gimmick was expressed... but for more clarity. Titanium isn't as strong as many other alloys per weight and its way more brittle than most commonly used Mg based, unless forged. And forging titanium is expensive as if u want details u have to machine them. And vs steel. A good steel does get deformed easier than titanium, but u can deform it quite a bit without it actually breaking, while cast titanium cracks at the least deformation. Per weight titanium probably will not be much stronger than a way cheaper (good) steel. So, yes a gimmick fore those who want to pay for such or are fooled by the epic word "Titanium"
@@shanillaabdul9896 you are pretending that steel is equally light as titanium. If that were the case, U locks wouldn’t be a problem to carry around. People cut U locks with approximately the same amount of time as they cut titanium. So you may as well carry the lighter one. Before you say “no, titanium is bad and steel is good.” Consider that a bike may be locked up for hours at a time. The thief has more than enough time to cut any type of metal.
@@blackrockcity oh man. Don't you read? I understand that you have no clue about metallurgy, and thats ok. This is not about a bike lock to begin with, but ignoring that ill try to make this a bit easier. 1) cast is way more fragile than forged. Forged can be so brittle u can smash it depending on what structure and alloy you go with. 2) Forged titanium is a pain in the ass to machine making it a terrible material for anything but sheets, bent or smooth or chains, rods. Simple items or large welded constructions 3) Weights. Carbon steel approx. 7,8 g/cm3 Common titanium alloy 4,5 g/cm3 (58% of steel) Mg Si Alloy 1.8 g/cm3 (23% of steel) And this is just density which say nothing about the weight of an item with the same performance. So for humor: Cardboard 0,7 g/cm3 (9% of steel) 4)Material strength. Simple steel is at least 355 MPa tensile strength but high quality high tensile steel is about 1300 MPa. And when exceeded it doesn't break if forged, it deforms before that. Titanium is about 210-1380 MPa. Its more brittle than steel, so when exceeded it breaks. Forged helps this but cant be used for locks unless u want to go bananas with cost. As i dont know what kind off effect Gallium have on the alloys i ignore all Al mixes with MgSi which places it at about 400 MPa Cardboard 1,5 MPa 4b) Making a rod ignoring length but aim to get the other materials to equal a 1cm diameter bar. Forged high quality steel, 1cm, 100% weight Titanium cast) 2,5cm, 360% weight. Titanium forged ($1000 for a lock) 0,99cm, 58% weight MgSi forged, 1,8cm, 94% weight MgSiAl forged 1,7cm, 84% weight (effects of Gallium unknown) Cardboard, 30cm, 78% Yay, cardboard is almost as good as forged titanium! This is for shear and tensile strength. 5)Hardness, how hard it is to grind. The thing about hardness is that its a pain to get a coherent answer. Most common used measurement is the Rockwell hardness (RH). But u cant use the same RH to compare two objects. If they differ to much the results come out invalid. A propper hardened steel has 60RHC and a soft steel has 70RHB. You cant measure soft steel in RHC cause its to soft to give a usable result. So, what is Titanium on that scale well.. its about 70-74RHB ie. slightly harder than soft steel ie. grinds like butter. Hardened titanium then? Well its 35RHC which still is easy to grind. MgSi is a large span and is hard to get a hypothetical result on. But it is often quite soft. Conclusions. Steel vs cast titanium. Steel is cheaper smaller, lighter and in another dimension when it comes to grind resistance. Titanium can look better. Steel vs forged titanium. Steel is on another dimension when it comes to grinding and is way way cheaper. Titanium is lighter, yes. MgSi is grindable and bulkier but very light. The cardboard is pretty much a solid blobb only usable in cartoons. So yes... titanium in locks are just a gimmick.
@@shanillaabdul9896 “Dont you Read?...This is not about a bike lock to begin with...” Double checks title of video. ‘Tigr titanium bike lock picked’. You are rude, but you have some interesting data. You missed the point though.
I don't know why people think titanium is so amazing, I always thought it was a bit meh tbh. It's nice and light but I've stripped and mangled way more titanium than steel in the workshop over 15 years, steel is awesome imo.
Horses for courses. For aerospace uses where every gram/ounce counts Ti is very good. For a bike (or other "Earth-bound" security...) I have an extra 20 pounds of guts that I could lose (and it would do me a lot of good) before I start worrying about the weight of steel. The inconvenience is carrying the stuff around and the volume it takes; weight is secondary.
The video you're referring to was the original TiGr lock, which was long ago redesigned so it can no longer be bolt cut. Further, the bolt cutter was the Biggest you can get, not the kind D.C. bike thieves can hide in their jackets, lean over and in a few seconds snap thru your basic U lock.
John Schwartz Yeah, at launch they offered a width of bow that was half that of all the TiGr variants currently for sale which it was possible to cut through with a four foot long set of bolt croppers with the lock positioned low to the ground. Despite no longer being sold that five year old video is still brought up constantly whenever there’s talk of TiGr. Since then they’ve fared well. One site even hired a bike thief to test a range of locks including the TiGr Mini. Of the selection the TiGr Mini was the one he was most excited to try, saying it was laughable to be classed as a bike lock and that he’d be able to get through it in seconds. Four minutes in and all he’d managed to do was work up a sweat. What a lot of people forget is that the TiGr Mini is so lightweight that you can carry two of them and still be significantly lighter than d-locks that are considered lightweight for their class. Run skewer locks and then you can use the TiGr Minis high up and on different parts of the frame. Also the cylinder isn’t titanium, it’s steel. The cylinder by itself is heavier than the bow. From experience they’re great for short stops and as emergency locks in case something’s happened to a heavier lock you permanently leave locked on street furniture. Can carry them on you and barely notice a difference. Only downside is how eye catching they are. You’re going into the shop to get a drink and someone’s stopped you to ask you what it’s called and where they can purchase. Another aspect i’ve encountered, like the thief above is people coming over to the bike while locked because they even with two of these either think the bike’s unlocked, that the locks might be worth something by itself or that they’re so insubstantial that they would be able to break it by hand or with a screwdriver. Actually had to chase people off that have fallen into those last three categories. TiGr isn’t for everyone but as a hipster and ridiculously lightweight option that will hopefully bamboozle thieves due to its rarity and that you’ll unlikely to ever see someone else use due to its price, it’s in a category of its own.
I think the only solution against bike thief would be an alarm lock like this one: www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01IUZM4RI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2GGTH3C1FV2MZ&psc=1 I'd like to have opinions on this. As a bike rider I don't like to carry top much weigt neither
LPL, great video as always, but there's a problem. At 0:27 you mention that steel is better than titanium, that Ti is only lighter than steel. I think you misspoke yourself, if you will recall, Ti is the strongest metal on earth. Sure, it only weighs half as much as steel, but I've seen (in videos) many people wear out their steel tooling trying to work Ti. Ti also has a property that's called something like pro-ferocity where the sparks caused by grinding are especially hot and bright (powdered Ti is used in fireworks) making them hazardous. I'll also mention that I just watched a video of a guy trying to cut one of those TiGr lock straps with a pair of 48 inch bolt cutters and failing. Is it possible that you were thinking of one of the other light metals?
Perhaps the strongest by weight, but not even close to the strongest by volume. You would need a MUCH larger titanium lock to have the strength of most hardened lock steels. Also, understand that hardness is the key metric in cut resistance... titanium is very soft compared to the hardened steels used in locks (60+RC). As for bolt cutters... czcams.com/video/kb8YoT9Q9VA/video.html
if that's supposed to be a rando in the video they could've supplied bolt cutters that were tampered with. he also should've stuck that pipe in the perfectly fitting U of the sign post..
Everybody that gets a bike stolen by picking you should be rich held responsible for every bike and have to replace them you think you're deserving a greater good by exposing the weakness of this walk it's not people are learning how to break into these things and steal bikes and you should be responsible financially and physically
@LockPickingLawyer It's kind-of cool that you can get through all these locks and I do like watching your videos however you're essentially giving out free guides to criminals on how to bypass every security measure on the market. Is making these videos ethical? yes I know sometimes lock manufacturers can be deceitful with the advertised quality of their products but i would say you're doing the public more of a disservice than a service. Your thoughts?
This is kind of disreputable. You're demonstrating how to pick a Tigr Mini bike lock and showing what tools you use. It's giving unnecessary information to amateur bike thieves, who are no doubt studying this video intently to see how they can overpower these locks. In cities with high rates of bicycle theft, like San Francisco or NYC, this video hurts bike owners.
After what Bosnian Bill did to the titanium loop that the lock core holds, it's pretty clear amateur bike thieves aren't going to be getting a disc detainer pick, when 24" bolt cutters and good hacksaws and blades are available at every reputable tool retailer in America (obviously, that leaves out Wal-Mart and Harbor Freight, small comfort, that!)
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Seems like a good lock, he admitted his first attempt was a fail and his second attempt was over a minute which translates to decent lock.
I just discovered your channel while surfing for motorcycle locks. Your videos are superior in describing the various locks but also demonstrating lock picking and disabling techniques. Sound, video and narration are excellent. I got on a binge watching your videos and Bosnian Bill's, sort of like watching a great magician (nothing up my sleeves). I watched the Bowley lock video and see they are offering a padlock soon. I'm hoping that that lock will provide a moderate amount of security for my motorcycle when parked outside its garage. Great videos, I'll keep watching!
Try a Forever Lock instead. There are a few vids about them. Here's their website theforeverlock.com/
I discovered LPL's channel the same way, I also found out my lock sucked. =D
This guy is a monster to locks. I'm eyeing the mentioned forever lock, and have a question in about its build material (steel vs. zinc) because as we all now know, zinc snaps like a twig when a bolt extractor is applied. Thanks, LPL! I may go with the soon to be released Bowley padlock and another manufacturer's chain but hate having to deal with the bulk and weight of a padlock and chain.
LPL and bosnianbill have forever made me feel any lock I ever see is low security. I don't even know what padlock to buy anymore, most seem so bad.
Get an Assa Abloy Padlock and a giant hardened steel chain. The number of people who can pick an Assa are very small and power tools are needed in a physical attack.
I was about to buy this lock and remembered your channel. Thanks for the advise in the beginning. Will stick to Kryptonite... as long as you don't turn to a life of crime! Thanks!
Awesome skills, and one of the best deliveries out there. In fact, about the only time I detect much excitement is when you're about to melt down or otherwise annihilate a Master™ 'lock'.
Thanks.
A bike light enough where you would want to use this lock, is expensive enough that you won't lose eyesight of it no matter where you go. It's perfect for that purpose.
There’s another scenario. A bike that is junkie enough that the lock is the most expensive component. Losing a bike costs the owner a lot of time and hassle because proper bike fit can be difficult. Therefore replacement bikes can be difficult to find. Therefore protecting a junkie bike makes sense.
Next, the tigr locks both wheels and the frame so it falls somewhere between a cable lock and a U lock... and that’s fine because, these days, none of those types is actually secure.
If you want maximum security, the tigr is only a viable option in conjunction with an additional lock made of hardened steel.
I have yet too see a bicycle locked with two kinds of locks, but, in my opinion, that’s what is necessary.
Very cool. Fantastic picking skills
Great job picking as usual brother and thanks for sharing it with us
Great to see this about a lock/company that has gotten so much hype and recommendations. Thanks for the info about the titanium - think most people actually believe they are _better _of with it.
Whoa, are you telling me my back can't take brute force attacks!? I'd better call my surgeon! Nice pick as always.
I just watched Bosnian Bill's video on this. He destroyed that lock like it was made of paper. Lol
Watched it too, then came here just to see if LPL had it done..... Should never have doubted it! Bosnian bill.....couldn't pick it, had to use brute force. This was elegant.
@@declanleung472 ironically that's the inverse of their styles. Bill prefers a light touch While LPL prefers it heavy
Same here. Gee, this sure was a short video.
Didn't BB tension on the front?
I've seen it too and was wondering how the lock picking loyer does it, and he picked it like it's nothing, whilr bosnian took 3 hours plus cheating 😂
I have a TiGr lock on my bike at all times. I ride almost everyday and almost always stop for a coffee somewhere along the route. Which usually means a trip to the restroom. With this lock I can take that break away from my bike and be assured that it will be there when I return. I would not leave my $10,000 bike unattended in a high crime area for an extended period with this lock or any lock for that matter. The TiGr lock is perfect for my needs. Far better security than a cable and very light weight.
Yeah? Be worried, be very worried.
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Interesting. Before I bought the lock I read reviews and saw videos where bolt cutter attacks were not successful on the model that I purchased. But that like I said, I only use it in a public area with lots of people around and only for a few minutes.
@@dlevi67 That is from an early model of the TiGr lock that was made thinner. He still sells the strap but it's thicker now. And the even more secure models are the tight loops meant to be used more like a U-Lock. They're both thicker and tighter to the frame and anchor, making it harder to get a bolt cutter head in there. Moe info on the manufacturing change here: www.tigrlock.com/lock-testing/
Exactly my philosophy. Dragging a heavy u-lock around dampens the joy of riding a high-end lightweight bike, while a cable lock is almost worthless in urban areas such as NYC.
Eye of the TiGr.
More like a kitten. 🐱
LockPickingLawyer *oof*
I have one of these. I usually park my (old, but beloved) bike outside for just an hour or two at a time, and never after dark, so I was happy to pay more for a lighter lock, even if it meant a higher risk of having my bike stolen. And actually, since my old lock was a heavy old Kryptonite from the 80's, it might be a step up in security.
fancy looking key, i like it
Cool, you have already filmed this lock 🙂
Great content as ever.
great pick.. i bet you have a fantastic mountain bike.. lol..
😂😂😂
I remember when disc locks first came out how everyone said they were close to being unpickable. Now with a Chinese disc pick they can be easier to open than a regular pin tumbler lock. I guess one hopes that the thief has not been on the internet and bought one of the specialized disc picks.
For some reason, people just don’t attack them, and they gained an undeserved reputation... hopefully my videos will get more people in the game, and help lock makers realize that they need to do better.
@@lockpickinglawyer have you picked an abloy yet?
Well done, as ... ALWAYS :)
Thanks. 👍
great stuff!
If you still have the cylinder it might be fun to try a destructive attack that I haven't seen yet. Use a pipe/tubing cutter to separate the locking flange from the part of the cylinder that holds the locking "spike". The ears of the shackle could then be squeezed together and removed.
tu mereces mas atencion que otras personas, nada que ver la habilidad de un profesional de verdad contra otros fanaticos
This lock was cut with bolt cutters in a second, and with a hack saw in about 4-5 seconds.
It was so easy & silent, that I doubt any thief would try to pick the lock. Takes so much less time to cut it, that it attracts way less attention than squatting down by the lock & picking it in a few minutes (on the field it's slower)
(The BosnianBill video shows how easy it is to just cut it)
Let's not kid ourselves; Just about any lock can be picked, if you know what you're doing. Most bike thieves aren't lock-picking experts. They use crude, quick tools to get the goods and get away.
Only people that pick locks are Lawyers and the NSA
And sadly it's even fast to just cut the lock on this model than pick it...
Around 2 minutes for the pick in perfect conditions(lock in vice, perfect lightning, no other distractions) by the person who really knows what he is doing. I highly doubt that criminals of that level(bicycle thieves) are using such tools. I believe that almost all, if not all TiGr locks are defeated by some form of brute force(bolt cutters, hacksaw etc...)
FicaGTI You forgot to add that was not his first attempt, he said that tried to opened before and failed at 2:00.
@@PL-up5ig That makes the lock even more impressive.
Another advantage of titanium is corrosion resistance. Even more so than some grades of stainless steel. But you are quite right, it's not particularly hard or stiff. By weight it's really strong but by volume it's quite a bit less so than steel. And in terms of being able to cut it, that latter one is what matters. It's a very useful material for some stuff but I don't think you should make locks out of it.
You should try to see if you can bypass the forever lock
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Who really cares if he can open up a lock by destroying it. Any idiot can do that. It's not hard. I like the picking videos but sad to say I actually have to mute them in order to watch.
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this is pure gold
Dear LPL, can you do a destructive test on the new Tigr Blue? A video of that doesn’t exist on the internet yet!
Amazing
I cried when I saw how fast you picked this lock (mine). Another vid showed this lock being cut with a bolt cutter (sigh). Now I'm looking at Hiplok D1000 or Hiplok Homie. Also expensive...Can you get into these Hiploks? Can't find a video featuring you and any Hiplok bike locks.
Since you mentioned the Anchor Las locks in this video and I just happen to own one of their padlocks:
Do you know if the core can be pulled on them?
To specify: I own the model 833-3 with the removable shackle (they list it as grade 4 on their website).
I would also love to see a review on their padlocks, especially in terms of resistance against brute force attacks.
They are super rare over here. I only have a few tiny ones.
I was just playing with my Anchor class 2 lock and was very surprised to hear you mention them, i think i tried to search for any videos you had made of their stuff but found none
I use this lock when I go shopping in good part of the city or want get a cup of coffee while biking. I would never leave my bike with in a really sketchy neighborhood. I use two locks when I know I'm going to do it. TiGr is expensive but it serves its purpose. I don't think it's any easier to break, for a professional thief, than any other u lock on the market. I watched couple other videos by this guy and he breaks Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit faster than this lock and caring that thing around is such a pain. With TiGr lock at least I don't feel like I'm caring a bunch of bricks with me.
A boltcutter goes easy thruogh ure tigr lock.
@@minhnguyenle5230 Yup I saw the guy do it in the other video :(. Well, I'll still use it when I'm doing shopping in fancy neighborhoods and bring my other lock as a back up for for the shady parts of Chicago.
I carry two locks. One very secure lock for the frame and one wheel, one Tigr lock to lock the other wheel to the frame. Bike thieves don't mess with my bikes any more.
I was looking at it and I seemed I was just a really cheap simple lock but apparently no looking at it's design it looks very basic not very well thought-out but I saw another dude picket and I was a little bit surprised at the intricacies in it and spot of how simple it looks
by the way, is it possible to make a disc detainer that HAS TO be tensioned from BOTH back AND front at the same time to do ANYTHING?
I'm sure it is. You'd probably need to use some kind of sidebar arrangement that locks the core if both aren't being tensioned simultaneously.
but then you can make a pick that can tension both the front and the back, there your efforts go woossh
Is there any way you could install a boroscope or fibroscope on your tensioning tool for us viewers?
What is the type of tools that you recommend for picking this type of lock? I am interested in a set that would tension front, rear, etc.
There’s nothing out there I recommend. ☹️
Been subbed for months now and I get it, they all get picked........
there are some Ti alloys that get quite hard (50 HRC vs 55-60+ for steel), but it would be very expensive to make a lock out of it. the alloys likely used in this lock would have strength and hardness somewhere between your better mild steels and low alloy steels. basically, it's not bad, but not good either.
I didn’t realize they got that high... but still, that’s the difference between a missing bike and a ruined hack saw blade.
yea, that's the stuff used in some knives and things such as fighter jet landing gear. it's expensive and i imagine it is murder to machine.
speaking of exotic materials, i wonder why metal-matrix composites (some kind of ceramic in a metal matrix) haven't been used in locks yet. yes, they're expensive and most are literally impossible to machine, but the strength and cut, grind, whatever resistance would be unparalleled. there's little reason it couldn't be used for the simple but important parts like a drill plate or a shackle. it would not be cheap, but it should be feasible for the deluxe model of the high tier manufacturers.
What about resistance to impact? Most ceramics are very hard but fragile. Some safes use ceramic (or cermet) in plates around critical areas, but they have the luxury of space and weight being relatively unimportant so they can combine materials much more easily.
the metal matrix is tough enough to deal with most impact forces. it should not be any worse than hardened steel.
Just got mine today.
NYC.
I hope I made the right decision.. 🤷♂️
Wondering not only how strong/reliable it is, but was it the best option for a Onewheel in the inner city??
I Already pulled the trigger. It here! TFL FTW.
Am I gonna wanna keep it?
‘Return it?
If theres a better option, plz lemmeno.
Cheers! 🤙🕊️
Why wouldn't manufacturers require the core to be tensioned from the middle of the disk pack? It seems like a simple change that would negate most picks.
Usually because 0 cuts top and bottom help the lock operate smoothly.
"Anchor Lås locks" Lås means Lock, so you doubled up there!
Good to know. Thanks.
It's perfect for urban recreational riding. If you have a nice bike, you want to enjoy it without it being weighed down by a heavy lock. But in places like NYC, a cable lock will be defeated in 5 seconds while you're inside taking a break at a coffee shop.
@joseph crosby mecham I disagree. I bought the tigr because it is very light so that I am more willing to take it on my road bike. I have never had a problem leaving my bike outside a rural diner on a ride, but it still makes me nervous. At
Do you have any bike locks you can recommend? You go through them like butter, there has to be something worth while?
That lock was pretty good, he failed the first attempt.
This is for the occasional 5-minute bathroom break or quick snack at the 7-11.
Have you ever tried to cut titanium?
It work hardens very easily.
Go ahead and try to saw or drill into that lock body.
Agreed! I takes me about 10 times longer to cut titanium bolts compared to the grade 8 steel equivalent (using an abrasive cut-off saw). BTW, I cut a hardened steel u-lock (Kryptonite) with the same saw in about 15 seconds.
The bow is titanium. The cylinder lock is steel of some sort.
Hi...where can I get this tool you use to pick this lock? I threw my key away by mistake and I would like to open this lock to replace with another. Your suggestion is greatly appreciated. thank you...Onix
Where can I buy that kind of tool, already got one for front disc tension, now I need something like this.
Fauxie I would like to know also. I don't have any picks yet for this type of lock.
I second that. As I’m curious as well.
Or third that I should say
Look for the Chinese tool intended for the Abus granit. But note, it will not work on the granit, and you need to modify it.
you said when it comes to forceful entry, titanium has only a fraction of the resistance of hardened steel.
A good titanium alloy has 90 to 95% the strength of good steel but unlike steel it wont rust.
90% of the strength for the same volume? That’s impressive! But consider that hardness is a key metric in cut and saw resistance. When a super tough titanium alloys hit 60+RC, I’ll consider switching. None are anywhere near that mark now.
There’s steel, and there’s steel. Even a mild steel shackle or body can out-do titanium if it’s case hardened. Once you get into the specialised, through hardened steels, titanium is way behind.
What makes it special is it’s strength in relation to its weight. So it’s great for aircraft, not great for bike locks.
You're confusing tensile strength and hardness. Kevlar and Spectra fibers are "stronger than steel," but they're obviously not hard. You need hardness to resist cutters. There's a reason you don't see Kevlar locks on the street.
@@amightysailingman What was "litelock"?
@@Ma_Ba Very easy to cut is what it was.
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Wow, I'm surprised you bought this lock! I remember mentioning this company a while ago.
edit: maybe a good compromise for a lock would be to use a combination of titanium and steel, using steel for the shackle but maybe titanium for the body? I guess at that point though its not as much weight savings and probably best to use steel only. I also seem to remember that the "shackle" part for these locks were long and flat, potentially making cutting them more awkward then a traditional cylindrical shaped shackle
I wasn’t planning to get one... until I saw the cylinder for sale separately.
I dont blame you, they were pretty expensive for just one video demonstration. I am curious as to how hard that titanium is to cut, though.
Auf Deutsch, but a picture is worth a thousand words: czcams.com/video/kb8YoT9Q9VA/video.html
@@dlevi67, this is an outdated video. The current models are almost twice a wide and a bit thicker. I don't use it alone, but it's a great secondary lock.
@@emma70707 Nothing outdated about the video. At best titanium is as hard to shear as mild steel... which is to say not very hard at all. The "new" ones are 1.25 inches wide, which at most requires 2 cuts from a small hydraulic cutter, and still ridiculously thin at 1/8" (3.2 mm). This is at best as secure as a cable lock - that is to say, not at all, but you pay for the privilege.
How would this be taken apart? I don't see any screws, etc. on it.
It’s permanently pinned.
OK, thanks.
Ok, so hardened steel is harder than titanium. But could you harden the titanium? Because if so the advantages would be more than twofold. After a few quick Google searches I couldn't find anything so I'm just going to leave my question here
No... at least nowhere near as hard as steel.
LockPickingLawyer thanks!
Titanium is great stuff for A-10s and Soviet attack subs, but not so much for locks. Got it.
Is it susceptible to shimming?
Not sure. I didn’t take it apart to make inspect the innards. Given the push to lock feature, I can’t rule it out.
i still don't understand why you would use something like this over a standard u-lock. they take less effort to put on and offer much more resistance. sure, they might weigh a bit more, but most come with a mounting bracket so that shouldn't be an issue.
dude the lock is steel. only the shackle (not shown) is Ti.
Do you know what would be great? If for all of your videos you had your neighbor come over, who has absolutely no picking skills, give him a set of tools and see if he can do the job, just for contrast. 😆
Titanium can be as hard as steel. Maybe not as hard as the maximised hardened ones but then again it is naturally corrosion resistant and doesn't need 12% chromium like the steel and it certainly is harder than the brass or aluminium locks. So i'd imagine it would be a good alternative for outdoor/marine locks.
It’s certainly better than brass and aluminum... but that’s not saying much.
lets take a closer look
*camera zooms out*
Bill destroyed this lock, couldnt pick it!
Bill said he spent 3 hours trying to pick it. This dude is legit!
Who's Bill?
@Timmy Reilly : Bosnianbill
Brant Myers Bill is not that bad. LPL failed the first attempt with the lock. The video was taken after multiple attempts.
2:50 you sound like an ophthalmologist
but at least titanium is quite a bit harder than normal steel with titanium at 6 on the mohs scale, normal steel at 4-4,5 and hardened steel at 7,5-8. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness#Intermediate_hardness
Titanium is a rather different metal. Depending on alloy, it can be somewhat hardened to being quite soft. CP1 and CP2 are quite soft and scratch easily.
I'd rather have a good Inconel or Hastelloy if looking for corrosion resistance or any steel alloy over a Rockwell C scale of 55 or greater. Steels can be hardened in air, while titanium requires an inert atmosphere and doesn't get close to steel in hardness.
Hardness is the key metric for cut resistance... a quality hardened steel at 60+RC will destroy the same hacksaw blade that will cut right through any titanium alloy I know of.
Mohs hardness - resistance to scratching - doesn't matter that much. It's not a very meaningful measure of hardness for cutting resistance. Rockwell hardness (resistance to indentation) is a much better indicator.
Titanium in things has become a sales gimmick. Its a good material for some purposes but i dont see in what way locks would be one of them. First of all is that it makes aloys brittle. For when forged or rolled materials are used its hard to beat good steel aloys. For components that has to be cast i would like to see more hardened Al-Si-Mg aloys instead of the far to common zink.
Titanium is not a gimmick when there is practically no such thing as a secure bike lock. They can all be cut quickly now. Am I wrong?
If you are going to carry a lock around 100% of the time, then weight is a valid consideration. It all depends on what you are locking, where you are locking, when you are locking, and who is paying attention.
@@blackrockcity The explanation why its a gimmick was expressed... but for more clarity. Titanium isn't as strong as many other alloys per weight and its way more brittle than most commonly used Mg based, unless forged. And forging titanium is expensive as if u want details u have to machine them.
And vs steel. A good steel does get deformed easier than titanium, but u can deform it quite a bit without it actually breaking, while cast titanium cracks at the least deformation. Per weight titanium probably will not be much stronger than a way cheaper (good) steel.
So, yes a gimmick fore those who want to pay for such or are fooled by the epic word "Titanium"
@@shanillaabdul9896 you are pretending that steel is equally light as titanium. If that were the case, U locks wouldn’t be a problem to carry around. People cut U locks with approximately the same amount of time as they cut titanium. So you may as well carry the lighter one. Before you say “no, titanium is bad and steel is good.” Consider that a bike may be locked up for hours at a time. The thief has more than enough time to cut any type of metal.
@@blackrockcity oh man. Don't you read? I understand that you have no clue about metallurgy, and thats ok. This is not about a bike lock to begin with, but ignoring that ill try to make this a bit easier.
1) cast is way more fragile than forged. Forged can be so brittle u can smash it depending on what structure and alloy you go with.
2) Forged titanium is a pain in the ass to machine making it a terrible material for anything but sheets, bent or smooth or chains, rods. Simple items or large welded constructions
3) Weights.
Carbon steel approx. 7,8 g/cm3
Common titanium alloy 4,5 g/cm3 (58% of steel)
Mg Si Alloy 1.8 g/cm3 (23% of steel)
And this is just density which say nothing about the weight of an item with the same performance. So for humor:
Cardboard 0,7 g/cm3 (9% of steel)
4)Material strength.
Simple steel is at least 355 MPa tensile strength but high quality high tensile steel is about 1300 MPa. And when exceeded it doesn't break if forged, it deforms before that.
Titanium is about 210-1380 MPa. Its more brittle than steel, so when exceeded it breaks. Forged helps this but cant be used for locks unless u want to go bananas with cost.
As i dont know what kind off effect Gallium
have on the alloys i ignore all Al mixes with MgSi which places it at about 400 MPa
Cardboard 1,5 MPa
4b) Making a rod ignoring length but aim to get the other materials to equal a 1cm diameter bar.
Forged high quality steel, 1cm, 100% weight
Titanium cast) 2,5cm, 360% weight.
Titanium forged ($1000 for a lock) 0,99cm, 58% weight
MgSi forged, 1,8cm, 94% weight
MgSiAl forged 1,7cm, 84% weight (effects of Gallium unknown)
Cardboard, 30cm, 78% Yay, cardboard is almost as good as forged titanium!
This is for shear and tensile strength.
5)Hardness, how hard it is to grind. The thing about hardness is that its a pain to get a coherent answer. Most common used measurement is the Rockwell hardness (RH). But u cant use the same RH to compare two objects. If they differ to much the results come out invalid.
A propper hardened steel has 60RHC and a soft steel has 70RHB. You cant measure soft steel in RHC cause its to soft to give a usable result.
So, what is Titanium on that scale well.. its about 70-74RHB ie. slightly harder than soft steel ie. grinds like butter. Hardened titanium then? Well its 35RHC which still is easy to grind.
MgSi is a large span and is hard to get a hypothetical result on. But it is often quite soft.
Conclusions.
Steel vs cast titanium. Steel is cheaper smaller, lighter and in another dimension when it comes to grind resistance. Titanium can look better.
Steel vs forged titanium. Steel is on another dimension when it comes to grinding and is way way cheaper. Titanium is lighter, yes.
MgSi is grindable and bulkier but very light.
The cardboard is pretty much a solid blobb only usable in cartoons.
So yes... titanium in locks are just a gimmick.
@@shanillaabdul9896 “Dont you Read?...This is not about a bike lock to begin with...”
Double checks title of video. ‘Tigr titanium bike lock picked’.
You are rude, but you have some interesting data. You missed the point though.
I don't know why people think titanium is so amazing, I always thought it was a bit meh tbh.
It's nice and light but I've stripped and mangled way more titanium than steel in the workshop over 15 years, steel is awesome imo.
Horses for courses. For aerospace uses where every gram/ounce counts Ti is very good.
For a bike (or other "Earth-bound" security...) I have an extra 20 pounds of guts that I could lose (and it would do me a lot of good) before I start worrying about the weight of steel. The inconvenience is carrying the stuff around and the volume it takes; weight is secondary.
Bill said this lock was cheap. LOL. Lawyers must be under paid.
The lock was testet by the German „Test“ Magazine and they opened it with a bolt cutter in five seconds...
That doesn’t surprise me at all. Titanium isn’t nearly hard enough to counter bolt cutters.
The video you're referring to was the original TiGr lock, which was long ago redesigned so it can no longer be bolt cut. Further, the bolt cutter was the Biggest you can get, not the kind D.C. bike thieves can hide in their jackets, lean over and in a few seconds snap thru your basic U lock.
John Schwartz Yeah, at launch they offered a width of bow that was half that of all the TiGr variants currently for sale which it was possible to cut through with a four foot long set of bolt croppers with the lock positioned low to the ground. Despite no longer being sold that five year old video is still brought up constantly whenever there’s talk of TiGr. Since then they’ve fared well. One site even hired a bike thief to test a range of locks including the TiGr Mini. Of the selection the TiGr Mini was the one he was most excited to try, saying it was laughable to be classed as a bike lock and that he’d be able to get through it in seconds. Four minutes in and all he’d managed to do was work up a sweat. What a lot of people forget is that the TiGr Mini is so lightweight that you can carry two of them and still be significantly lighter than d-locks that are considered lightweight for their class. Run skewer locks and then you can use the TiGr Minis high up and on different parts of the frame. Also the cylinder isn’t titanium, it’s steel. The cylinder by itself is heavier than the bow. From experience they’re great for short stops and as emergency locks in case something’s happened to a heavier lock you permanently leave locked on street furniture. Can carry them on you and barely notice a difference. Only downside is how eye catching they are. You’re going into the shop to get a drink and someone’s stopped you to ask you what it’s called and where they can purchase. Another aspect i’ve encountered, like the thief above is people coming over to the bike while locked because they even with two of these either think the bike’s unlocked, that the locks might be worth something by itself or that they’re so insubstantial that they would be able to break it by hand or with a screwdriver. Actually had to chase people off that have fallen into those last three categories. TiGr isn’t for everyone but as a hipster and ridiculously lightweight option that will hopefully bamboozle thieves due to its rarity and that you’ll unlikely to ever see someone else use due to its price, it’s in a category of its own.
Yeah I have one...... How do I get my 'MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!!!'
To is like plastic it has it's places, but not in locks.
Well, there's all kinds of plastics, and some of the more advanced ones are unreasonably resistant to just about everything...except LPL.
Tell me. How many bikes that you had stolen.
I think the only solution against bike thief would be an alarm lock like this one: www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01IUZM4RI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2GGTH3C1FV2MZ&psc=1 I'd like to have opinions on this. As a bike rider I don't like to carry top much weigt neither
🤣such a diffrence saw the same titanium lock clip where other dude was smashing it with violence and still lpl was faster 😆
LPL, great video as always, but there's a problem. At 0:27 you mention that steel is better than titanium, that Ti is only lighter than steel. I think you misspoke yourself, if you will recall, Ti is the strongest metal on earth. Sure, it only weighs half as much as steel, but I've seen (in videos) many people wear out their steel tooling trying to work Ti. Ti also has a property that's called something like pro-ferocity where the sparks caused by grinding are especially hot and bright (powdered Ti is used in fireworks) making them hazardous. I'll also mention that I just watched a video of a guy trying to cut one of those TiGr lock straps with a pair of 48 inch bolt cutters and failing. Is it possible that you were thinking of one of the other light metals?
Perhaps the strongest by weight, but not even close to the strongest by volume. You would need a MUCH larger titanium lock to have the strength of most hardened lock steels. Also, understand that hardness is the key metric in cut resistance... titanium is very soft compared to the hardened steels used in locks (60+RC). As for bolt cutters... czcams.com/video/kb8YoT9Q9VA/video.html
Ouch! Touche. I guess this either a disguised advertisement or the worlds biggest pussy: czcams.com/video/_oz8v7J9GKw/video.html
My best guess is advertising. ☹️
My understanding/recollection is the video where it’s cut that is an older model using much thinner ti. The thinner model is no longer made
if that's supposed to be a rando in the video they could've supplied bolt cutters that were tampered with. he also should've stuck that pipe in the perfectly fitting U of the sign post..
ramset
category: education
yeah lock picking is very educational
If a lock costs more than a Walmart bike, forget it.
try cutting through forged titanium not so quick or easy.
Well, actually, it is easy... but only compared to the 60+RC steels used on locks.
wtf test
Everybody that gets a bike stolen by picking you should be rich held responsible for every bike and have to replace them you think you're deserving a greater good by exposing the weakness of this walk it's not people are learning how to break into these things and steal bikes and you should be responsible financially and physically
his odd shaped finger nails give me the creeps
@LockPickingLawyer It's kind-of cool that you can get through all these locks and I do like watching your videos however you're essentially giving out free guides to criminals on how to bypass every security measure on the market. Is making these videos ethical? yes I know sometimes lock manufacturers can be deceitful with the advertised quality of their products but i would say you're doing the public more of a disservice than a service. Your thoughts?
This is kind of disreputable. You're demonstrating how to pick a Tigr Mini bike lock and showing what tools you use. It's giving unnecessary information to amateur bike thieves, who are no doubt studying this video intently to see how they can overpower these locks. In cities with high rates of bicycle theft, like San Francisco or NYC, this video hurts bike owners.
After what Bosnian Bill did to the titanium loop that the lock core holds, it's pretty clear amateur bike thieves aren't going to be getting a disc detainer pick, when 24" bolt cutters and good hacksaws and blades are available at every reputable tool retailer in America (obviously, that leaves out Wal-Mart and Harbor Freight, small comfort, that!)