Montreal, what do you think of Toronto?
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
- Today I ask the people of Montreal what they think about Toronto. I get opinions on ways Montreal and Toronto are different, as well as talking to a few people from Montreal who have lived in Toronto. Hope you enjoy :)
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I'm from Toronto and moved to Montreal and I think its all the same sh%$.....every city is different and has its own peculiarity , it's own style. But in the end, it's filled with people and people are people...
This comment lol
Facts
It’s filled with people and people are around.
Earth.
100% and for me I came from the west coast of Canada, and Montreal has never felt like home, a lot of the things people are saying in this video I've experienced as the exact opposite. It's just a matter of perspective
Hahahaha can't argue with that :)
Toronto is a city for people who wants to make something of themselves and influence the world. Montréal is a city for people who like to sit down and relax all day. If you like fast-paced, urbanized city then Toronto is your best bet. If you like a laidback lifestyle then Montréal is your best bet.
Nope, in Toronto people want to be successful in life , in Montreal people just want to be happy in life !
Idk about sitting around all day...😂
Just convinced me to move to Montreal. Even though you were a little shady
@@SleepMeditationandAffirmations What's about the industrial culture which is destroying the world with it's overconsumptiom! It is the quantity which counts but quality . Life is about quality not quantity
I get what you mean, but politically speaking, Montreal is miles ahead in front of Toronto in terms of protests, activism, and a culture of actually caring about the state of the world. I see Toronto as more of a city where people can chase careers and personal success rather than influencing the world. I also say that Montreal is a lot more urban than Toronto. Toronto is more about urban sprawl which isn't really that urban in the first place.
No one here is talking about transit. Riding in Montreal's Metro was like a dream compared to what I'm used to with the TTC Subway. Each STM station felt like its own museum.
I love both cities and I hope to visit Montreal again soon!
And soon Montreal will have the new REM!
I hate how everyone forgets the buses the core of transit in toronto that does it better than everywhere else in north america only talking about subways.
Especially if you live in the North east side of the city in Toronto. What a joke.
@@ShawnLincoln360 ? At least it's the best transit system in North America because of how much better its bus network is than other cities.
I lived in Toronto for 3 months and man the TTC is a pain
I lived in Montreal for 2.5 years before moving west to Vancouver. I loved the city and everything it had to offer despite the brutal winters. However, I felt like my life was always a bit suboptimal in Quebec in a lot of ways. I am perfectly bilingual in both English and French. For the first few months I kept my employment in Los Angeles and continued to get paid there until it became necessary for me to find a local job in MTL. That's when I really started peeling the layers of Montreal. I was made to feel less-than-equal on numerous occasions. Recruiters and hiring managers would often ask me "How good is your French?" in French while talking to me in French. When I told them I am a native speaker, the question would immediately turn to "How good is your English?". The racism was really showing and it seemed like they were trying to find reasons to not hire me vs. hire me. This is the polar opposite of the culture in California which I call as a "cultura de sol" where everyone is fake-encouraging you all the time telling you are doing so well, and are trying to uplift you even if it's superficial. I would rather that vs. the French pessimism. (Btw, I also speak Spanish fluently). On interviews I cracked, Montreal companies made me very lowball offers just thinking that I am an immigrant and I should somehow be okay with a low pay. They left no room for negotiations and were often turning hostile to me with one recruiter even telling me that I should be grateful that I am in Quebec. Long story short, it became very untenable to live in Quebec and I even contemplated leaving Canada itself for good. That's when a little wonderful company from Seattle gave me an offer of $30k more than what I asked them, was perfectly okay with me living in Vancouver and commuting to Seattle only when needed, and even paid me a moving bonus to move back to the West Coast. I have now lived in Vancouver for 4+ years and don't regret it one bit. I am a Canadian citizen now, feel very Canadian in every aspect, never made to feel like I don't belong here, and live in one of the most multicultural and vibrant cities on this planet. I hate the rain and the cost of living here, but who doesn't?
Thanks for sharing your story. It's a bit sad that you had a tough time in Quebec, but I'm happy to hear you've found a good life in Vancouver. And it was very interesting reading your point of view on the different cultures you've experienced.
I lived in Montreal from 1981 to 1989 and hated the place , I moved to Toronto with my family and we LOVE it here ever since .
I’m sorry you experienced racism in Montreal
Countless francophones have no access to jobs in Montréal if they don't speak english btw. Your excuse doesn't stand. Sorry.
not once have I ever heard anybody ever say they had a better time in Can vs the east coast... interesting. I personally am not a fan of Vancouver living here. Theres a lot of problems that are quite major here that other big cities in Canada don't have. I don't hate it here, but I would certainly move if I had the choice.
I lost it when she said Toronto was dirtier and “grimier” than Montreal. Haha. I don’t know about that one…😂 this was an awesome video! Would love more like this.
Yeah I definitely wouldn't describe Montreal as clean haha! But always interesting to hear the range of point of views...
Yeah I didn't get that one as well... I mean, most proud Montrealers will agree that their city isn't exactly the cleanest hahaha
I think maybe they were talking about urban design? But no they were pretty specific about cleanliness hmm. The only thing I'd say is that the great things about Toronto definitely do not overall aesthetics haha.
Def. I live in Toronto and visited Montreal Twice...Montreal is filthy! I was thinking of moving to Montreal and then with all the filth and thugs sitting by the subway stations , i changed my mind....
I noticed the graffiti and trash in the first Montreal video I watched.
Born and raised in Toronto, lived there my entire life before moving to Montreal a couple of years ago. In my opinion many of the points made in this video are completely correct. Toronto feels soulless and corporate, it's all about work culture there and the majority of people I've met including friends I grew up with have no separation between their careers and personal lives, it embodies the saying "live to work". Making new friends as you age is difficult too because people are so pre-occupied with work and putting as many hours as possible into advancing their careers that they don't attribute any times for personal relationships, if you come across new people it's almost treated as a networking opportunity rather than working to build a genuine friendship. There's no respect for history or culture there as old landmark institutions are torn down for more generic glass condos or independent businesses/small family owned restaurants are forced out for even more corporate chains. The gun violence and gang activity has been getting worse and worse to the point where it's almost out of control, meanwhile the cost of living in the city itself has risen to astronomical heights.
Montreal has it's own set of problems too - there's endless construction and the roads are horrendous. It is pretty dirty and grimy in parts of the city. The winters are tough, even colder than Toronto. Despite people saying it's a bilingual city in my experience you don't get the full experience of feeling like you're truly a part of it unless you can speak both - but this isn't a bad thing necessarily, learning a language is cool and it's nice to become more cultured. However the respect for local independent stores and businesses is much higher here than Toronto, the culture is much more apparent and there's a charm that this city has that Toronto lacks. It's also infinitely more inviting, I see families walking around all the time as it's a great place to raise children and much much safer. The nightlife is amazing and there's different festivals happening almost every weekend year round. People seem to take their time to enjoy life a lot more, probably due to the European and predominantly French influence but people spend a lot of time outside of their work with friends, hanging in the parks or on patios and not constantly focused on their careers which seems to define people in Toronto. It's no comparison which one I enjoy more and I'm happy I made the decision to come here
Montreal is safer because it is not as multi-ethnic.
I think that is a pretty fair comparison
You went to Montreal not knowing its was multiple times much more colder than Toronto?.
Montreal is a beautiful city but I rather deal with the crazy up and down weather of Toronto than the cold and constant snow of Montreal.
This comment is beautiful, truthful and not bias in my opinion. Montreal is a magical place if you open up to what it has to offer. Man from Melbourne here.
Hi Giovanni, very well articulated! Thank you for this, I want to visit Montreal one day…but I have to learn more about how to get there via train from union station here in Toronto…
Lol me an American who’s never been to Canada watching all your Montreal street interview vids. But they’re so interesting keep them coming! 🤩
Haha thanks Bella 😀
Toronto neighbourhoods each have their own unique character and I think most visitors either spend time downtown or in one of the bland suburbs of the GTA so they don't really get to see them.
If you're visiting family in Mississauga or Scarborough and making day trips to downtown Toronto, you're missing out on a lot.
EXACTLY, people think all Toronto is is downtown. But in reality there are so many amazing neighbourhoods all around the city.
And even then there’s lots of amazing things in those areas but it’s more “if you know you know”. Not everything great is gonna be found on a narcity article.
@@torink8229 mind recommending some neighbourhoods?
@@mohammedgharbiyah6566 Danforth/Greek Town, Koreatown, Kensington market, lots of others
You know why people move to the boring bland GTA? Bc you become house poor to live in TO. I grew up in TO when you didn't have to fork out a mil to buy a crappy run down house. If a city is affordable to live in, it can be a great mix of wonderful cultures, foods, languages, and so on. But TO is not that bc it pushed people out of all that joy with its real-estate bubble.
Love this style of video, I'm from around Toronto and have been to Montreal plenty and it's a whole different vibe. Great work!
Toronto is a city that doesn’t explicitly lay everything out for you in a neat little package that can be done in a weekend. You have to live there. Traffic is going to happen and it’s going to seem crazy when you’re trying to tackle a city like Toronto in just a few days. I have been to every province and traveled extensively in Canada. I can guarantee you this. There’s no city in Canada that has more in terms of culture, food, music, art, sports, unique “scenes”, etc. Unfortunately that’s just something you don’t discover in a few days of visiting. Montreal has many great things going for it and is a fav city of mine. It’s also so much smaller and easily discovered.
Wow, you seem to really know what you are talking about here...any recommendations as to where i can find out the best places to go to, in terms of art, culture, unique spots, etc? thank you in advance!🙏
@@YuyiLeal I wanna know that too
@@YuyiLeal Check out Kensington Market (look up pedestrian Sundays), Toronto Island, the Art Gallery of Ontario, Trinity Bellwoods park, Queen Street West / the Fashion District, and neighbourhoods like Little Italy, Chinatown, Roncesvalles (formerly Little Poland) and Parkdale (Little Tibet) -- and summer or early fall is the best time to come for sure!
With all respect the entire transportation scene in Canada is really trash S. Korea, Japan, Singapore, China & Taiwan are all way better, then come European countries and some countries then Canada then some countries then USA
@@ko-Daegu Toronto is also a city of 3 million. You aren’t wrong though. Nobody says that the transit is amazing. That’s not really the draw to Toronto though. It’s one of the most multicultural cities in the world. You can’t replicate that. There’s a vibe there that is unique.
I think Toronto has really (!) distinct neighbourhoods, each little ward has such rich and deep character. It's a shame to discount that are boring or bland. I love montreal, its wonderful and I could stay there really but Toronto is so so special
The thing is that most people go to downtown Toronto, where it feels very bland.
As a Montrealer, I definitely agree. I think downtown-downtown + the burbs give Toronto a bad rep, but I think the inner city is quite charming and lively. If only it wasn't so expensive haha.
Give us an example of such a neighbourhood and why its special?. Because its not British/Irish/French...the people that created the culture and country and died for it...because they're white, isn't?. Canada is the next Rhodesia/South Africa.
The first girl describing Toronto is funny because as somebody who live 30min from the south shore of Montreal it is exactly what we think of Montreal
You think Montreal is Soulless?
@@torink8229 Indeed. When you have travel experience you see Montreal for what it is
@@Aeternuss I’ve lived in Berlin but have also visited all over Europe and I have to say that Montreal’s architecture and vibe is really special. In Montreal, it feels really alternative and people are just expressing themselves how they want.
I will take Toronto any day!
Greetings from Toronto 💛💛
Go Habs Go. Only been to Montreal once and it is absolutely beautiful. Definitely will be back to check out more and see the Montreal Canadiens at the Bell Centre. Shout out from Peterborough ON. Would agree with most these thought of Toronto. Its a place to visit and get the heck out.
You're loyalty is appreciated...
I live in Toronto as I agree !
Living in Toronto for 20 years, and I love it. Four Seasons, multi-culture, festivals/events (especially in summer), lots of opportunities to work and volunteer (i.e. TIFF, Santa Claus Parade), people are mostly friendly & approachable, accessibility/transit (but not the best).... it is not a perfect city (well, nobody is perfect & gave me also the opportunity to practice patience).
Visited Montreal 4 times, maximum 4 days. Love it too, especially the buildings & churches (i.e. Notre-Dame, St. Joseph Oratory, St. Patrick)... and I want to explore more.
Montreal is the original NYC of Canada in terms of waves of immigration (scottish, irish, jews, old Cantonese, sicilians)... Montreal became known for its bagels and smoked meat (beef pastrami) at a time when Toronto was known as "hog town" and its specialty was a pork sandwich... With Quebec's attempts at becoming a country, an exodus of business and people gave the crown of largest city to Toronto who went on to become a sort of Canadian Chicago while Montreal came very close to becoming a Canadian Detroit in the late 90's. Today from afar or from a drone, Toronto impresses by its scale. Torontonians relish (big time, its the ultimate life goal of Torontonians) in being compared to NYC (you want a Torontonian to love you, just say Toronto is like NYC, say that their "Dundas square" is like Times Square, their legs will go soft.. or simply ask a Torontonian to describe their city and count how many seconds until they mention "NYC") but once at street level, its all chains and chains and an ultra corporate environment with large ethnic ghettos interconnected by highway. It's a city that became a metropolis in the 1970's and its architecture is modern and inextricably linked to the automobile. The few independent restaurants that stand out eventually get wiped out by rent squeeze or when the building inevitably gets sold to real estate promoters (in Toronto a restaurant that has been around for 15-20 years will boast about it, in Montreal restaurants that are 40-50-60 years old don't even bother mentioning it, many have been opened for 70 even 90 years). The city is still filled with independent restaurants, bars, bakeries, pastry shops, has a century-old café culture, is walkable, bikeable and retains an independent grit that exists nowhere else in Canada, at this scale. Montreal became a metropolis in the 1920's, its urban plan and street size predate the advent of the car so streets are narrower, housing denser and there's a vibrant independent street life that changes radically from one neighborhood to another. With time, Montreal has retained a very strong European and Mediterranean vibe (we often say how european Montreal is but we overlook how really, it is a Mediterranean influence in its culture), it is family-oriented and has evolved into a sort of mini-London/Brooklyn/Paris mashup. Toronto has developed its own fabric based heavily on Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Filipino and Eastern European immigration, it is much more Asian at its core. If it is like NYC, then it's perhaps lower Manhattan and it's corporate high rises and ultra expensive restaurants.
NYC is such an awful overrated city I've lived here all my life.
Toronto is the only Canadian city with Michelin rated restaurants.
I have to actually disagree with you, Toronto still has a lot of independence and what we actually hate is when people compare us to NYC, you’ll be likely to get an eye-roll whenever someome says TO is like New York, but cleaner. Toronto’s west end has a very brooklyn/ Montreal feel.
@@torink8229 bruh torontians compare themselves to nyc and not the contrary
@@onikamaraj1239 I mean I know Ny’ers don’t compare themselves to Toronto, but I rarely hear old Torontonians compare Toronto to New York. Only young people from the suburbs make those kinds of comments, or young people who have never actually fucking been to NY!
I've never been to either place but watching this makes me feel like Montreal is much more my kinda place
I lived in Montreal for almost half a decade and would have never left if it wasn't for all the racism I faced. Always felt like a second class citizen there no matter how much french I learnt.
im sorry this happened to you… you should’ve been welcomed. On behalf of Montrealers, we’re sorry!
That surprising from Montreal, always been a melting pot of some sort but I get what you mean! All thought my father is a pure laine French Canadian/white, my mother is from Ecuador and most of my brothers and sisters look pure Hispanic/Latinx. Arrived here in high school in my father's RURAL home town where English and Spanish wasn't an option ! learned french fast and pretty easy in school, but we always got those looks from the old country folks like we were invading them even tho we should be considered natives as our father. !
@@jgjohnny7964 yepp exactly! Every step you deviate from the "white quebecois" norm there is a bit of tension. So being a colored anglo immigrant was not ideal lolol
@@avila9861 No need to be sorry, most Montrealers were awesome, I still have friends there and try to visit whenever I get the chance.
One of the biggest issue was the government! Most Canadian cities are in stage 2 where they realize they fucked up and there is systemic racism and issues surrounding that (so they atleast try to fix it) but Quebec is still in denial. When the premier of your province actively denies racism and at the same time you are facing it, kind of leaves a sour taste in your mouth and makes your feel not so good haha. When the premier can say shit like some cultures are better than others without any repercussions you know something is wrong lol. The politics is one of the major reasons I left.
Oh Stfu. Jesus, cry harder.
Tes videos sont tellement cool! la fille à la fin décrit parfaitement bien!
I’m from NY & I go to Mcgill. I frequent Mt Royal/Parc Jeanne Mance almost everyday. Hopefully I’ll run into you sometime haha I want to go to Toronto to see if it’s as much like NYC as they say. I have a feeling that after visiting I will conclude that it’s much more like Chicago than NYC. Keep up the great content!
NYC and Chicago are both much better than Toronto haha
Toronto is better than what is used to be, with a cool night life, restaurants everywhere and so on, but trust me, if you're from NYC and have already visited Chicago, there's no point in wasting your time. NYC will always be better by a long shot and Chicago looks better. Go to Québec city instead if you want something different. The old part really is comparable to any nice European town, and its history is way more interesting than anything you'll find in Ontario.
@@adamszanyi2242 Ontario is the most visited province in the country and has been for the entirety of Canada's History. Ontario has alot of natural wonders, Lake Huron, Lake Superior, Niagara Peninsula, Escarpment and Falls... Toronto I would say is the only world class city in Canada, great nightlife, amazing restaurants, great attractions in the downtown core, unique architecture. Toronto is like NY in the way that its the center of the universe in Canada, but the cities are worlds apart. Chicago has nothing on Toronto btw :)
@@johnwellington5754 Ontario has plenty of stuff to visit and Toronto is great, but it's of course not NYC and isn't the 'only' world class city. Montreal certainly is one and Vancouver as well.
About nature: Toronto has a huge lake, but it's mostly flat around. Montreal, surrounded by water, has mountains with plenty of lakes North and South less than an hour way, while Vancouver's natural offering is perhaps one of the most impressive on the planet.
@@johnwellington5754 I'm from NY and I'm currently in Montreal. Spent 4 days in Toronto and it does look a bit like Chicago.
Hahaha. This cracked me up. “Have you been to Toronto? “No” (he seems so irritated lol.) To get that kind of respond, you have to ask things like “have you tried cooking a pasta with a ramen sauce?” (@4:12)
Je viens de Montréal mais j'habite à Toronto pour mes études. J'ai hâte de revenir
"Not a lot of fun park hangouts" Hmmm.... Christie Pits, Riverdale, High Park?? Any of the million downtown parkettes you can go to eat 7/11 taquitos totally rote with your friends at 2 am?? I wanna invite this girl to brunch in Bellwoods on a Saturday so she can have some fun in a TO park lol
Toronto you have to work for it, much bigger city, you can't just walk and stumble across all the city has to offer like Little India, the Koreatowns, High Park, the breach, Kay Gardner, brickworks, the bluffs, Crothers Woods, Little Tibet, Roncy, Centre Island etc.
MTL has an incredibly huge park culture and that's what I think she was referencing. I've actually havnt seen anything like it anywhere else
You forgot Toronto's best park: The Toronto Islands.
@@darrellsturrock5795 I went to Toronto and Toronto Island was the only good part tbh
"Toronto is one hour away from Toronto" sooo truee! The question is has anyone ever gotten there with this traffic? 😂
Toronto is all work. People work almost single day to maintain the high cost of living there whereas montreal despite its flaws has a good balance of the two because of like many of your viewers have been saying is the European influence. That what makes this place such a Gem compared to most of North America
what are it's flaws?
Montreal and CDMX are my two favorite cities in the world... and they actually share many similarities.
We think alike!
What similarities do they share?
I just visited Montreal for the very first time a couple of weeks ago. I'm from B.C, so it's quite far, and a lot people from B.C. have never been to Quebec. I was quite impressed with Montreal. It has a beauty different from Vancouver, and it feels much more European than B.C. Sure, I love my mountains, forest, and beaches, but if I were to move somewhere else in Canada, it would be Montreal.
North of Montréal you have the Laurentians region. It is beautiful especially in autumn.
I'm from Montreal and love the city with all it's positives and negatives, but I really want to visit BC and other areas in Canada.. Hopefully I get the opportunity soon ! Quebec has a bunch a nice national parks but you guys really got the best nature landmarks, excited to seeing them in person at some point..
Montreal is special and unique, other than NYC, my favorite city. Toronto is regular, but still a nice city. Both are among my favorite cities I've visited in North America.
NYC!? u have to be kidding me... awful city and I live here
I live in NYC and love it, everyone has their own opinions
@@stellarremnant then you need to travel around to Sydney, Berlin, cologne, Stockholm, Tokyo, Vancouver, zurich and see what good cities are really like. Every city in this country is garbage compared to cities in Western Europe Australia canada
I agree as well! I would love to see Atlanta, but so far, my favourite large cities have been Boston, Montreal, Toronto and NYC.
Girl at the beginning is on point
I was born outside of Canada. Lived in 3 separate cities before coming to Toronto. Immediately I felt at home here.
Which 3 cities may I ask? Thank u
Did a cross canada drive as a tourist for couple of months.
And as a person from outside who didn’t spent much time in either of Canadian cities honestly guys every single Canadian city is built exactly the same way. Literally tall center and houses around it, there isn’t anything else.
lol welcome to North America ! Definetly true.. I like to think Montreal is a bit better in that it has more plexes, mixed developments (commercial+residential) and mid rises, but we indeed have the same symtoms ! Car centric cities !
That last girl nailed it so perfectly well. Vraiment!!!
Hi Dan, you are to Montreal what Downielive is to Vancouver. Love watching you both 🇬🇧
Thanks Andy!! Downielive makes great content
I'm from the UK, and visited both cities last fall. I can objectively say that Toronto is very much an American city now, and lost part of its beauty with the the excessive condo/offices downtown, bad urban planning!
Montreal, I was not impressed, currently a building site! Not a welcoming city for tourists, the bus drivers we're a blessing and supportive. Vancouver would be my preference if I lived in Canada.
I'm from Montreal love this city
I grew up in montreal and always spoke english. Went to english schools had english friends, etc. Never once did I feel I did not belong here despite not being fluent in french. However, that is changing now.
Which is not possible in Toronto, and never was.
It changed in the 1970s. Montreal elite used to be Anglo but since the Parti Quebecois got elected the balance of power has really shifted.
Living in Toronto always felt like I was there to pay someone else's bills
Bitburger is a German beer from the state Rhineland-Palatinate. It's my home state, which is actually better known for wine than beer. So strange to see that they even have it in Canada. But I will definitely prefer the local beer brands when I go there this year. Can you recommend any Montreal based breweries that I should try?
I lived 4 years in Montréal and moved to Toronto 4 months ago. People in Toronto are much less racist, more friendly and it’s actually much more fun than Montréal.
Is Montreal that racist? I found people of different ethnic backgrounds mix better in Montreal, where as in Toronto and most other Anglo sections of Canada very racially segregated.
@@proofy25 #bill21 #bill96. I’m talking of course about the Québécois
False.
@@maestroadam What is False?
the french is the only one official language
Did you learned or do you speak french ?
If you dont give a F* about french,
Québecois will dont give a F* about you
It's funny, I'm from Montreal and moved to Toronto and love both cities, yes of course they're different but I find it odd some of the comments some people made. For ex one older gentleman made the comment that Toronto was more "Americanized" and linked that to the English-centred culture - but of course Toronto was going to be English-centred, it was founded as the more British side of founding Canadian peoples, that origin didn't have anything to do with America.
The other comments, similarly aligned Toronto as seeming "American" which in some ways has merit but is also like saying that one European city seems like another European city, it's true, they do because they all grew up around the same time borrowing off of design and socio economic principles of the day. Montreal also has vibes in the same way.
At the same time Toronto has a totally distinct vibe that I totally don't see as "American", both architecturally, culturally you can spot Toronto in a nano second most of the time (say in movies), especially downtown you can see full streets, villages, housing and building styles that you don't see in America.
The last comment which I disagreed about was villages, the woman didn't say it outright but she seemed to gloss over the uniquely Toronto thing with its villages, subways (streetcars) and walkability (she was right about it being expensive though) where it's very common culturally in Toronto to bounce around one village to another to go and shop or just hang out. As in "I'm going down to Roncesvalles for lunch" or "we're going over to The Esplanade to catch a show", the village vibe is a central part of living here.
Interesting video though.
Montreal is physically more beautiful than Toronto, but Toronto is a much more interesting city.
In what way?
I’d be interested to hear thoughts about Vancouver from Montreal/Toronto
Toronto is much cleaner and well maintained (construction wise) than Montreal, so I disagree with the person on that point. I moved back to Toronto 20 years ago, and most of my family still live in Montreal. I will say though that the vibe in Montreal is much more social and euro like which I greatly miss. I do feel though, when I visit family, that Montreal is stuck in a time period and little is getting better, especially with their divisive French vs English politics in Quebec.
I felt the lady that said "Toronto is an hour away from Toronto"... great way to describe it. Unless you are in geared to rent housing or are making TONS of money, living near the city is just unaffordable.
Wow 😮 everything is relative. I’m born and lived most of my life in Toronto and traveled quite a bit in the USA. I’ve been to Montreal a couple of times. I find that the USA is quite different from Toronto. Toronto has many good things. Very multicultural and many good restaurants. Some neighborhoods are great. The waterfront and island is good for biking. When you stay downtown it’s good. The suburbs suck. And the subway and transit should be much better.
I like Montreal and want to spend more time there
Good video
After studying French for several years, this channel has made me want to visit, or even live in Montreal. Has anybody in the comments studied in Canada as an international postgrad student? Merci
Not really related but here is an excellent chanel and video speaking about urbanism and notably that of Montreal : czcams.com/video/gf7VsodvV0I/video.html
Honestly as a lifelong resident of Canada and recent resident of mtl I can say you will generally be pretty down with just a bit of french and better english. Montreal is a pretty bilingual city anyways.
@@josephdubois5290 Thanks for this! I'm really looking to improve my French though so it seems like it would be a great place to do that. Just a financial issue more than anything, no idea where to start with getting funding for study.
8:12 Berlin? Berlin? I've not heard that bf... I must go there someday. I'm intrigued.
interesting Canadian Armpit takes 👍
Ive only visited Montreal and Quebec city, and I've lived in Toronto as a college student for a decent time in Toronto. The only thing I can say is that Toronto is easy to get lost in and find something new, but the nightlife there makes everyone feel like very shallow. Since I've moved to a small urban town, its a lot better for the people. Everyone in Toronto is working so hard to even live there that they can't do anything on their free time but drink alcohol. My own preconceptions lead me to believe that Montreal is maybe in between those two. I would like to meet people from Montreal.
Im from Toronto and i like Montreal
From Québec, living in Toronto and even though everything is far in Toronto, it is by far better then Montreal. All the people saying it is dirtier in Toronto... I don't get it. It cleaner then most of Montreal. There is always a couple of dozen events in Toronto every weekend, pretty sure Montreal is a out the same though.
Only reason I will not stay in Toronto is rent price. It's a house mortgage for 1 bedroom.
I'm from Toronto and I live in Montreal. I'm surprised by how many people in Montreal have a misinformed view of Toronto. It almost seems like they've never been there by the way some people talk about it even though I know they have. I think it all comes down to how long you've been there. You can't form your opinion if you're only passing through or visiting for a weekend. You've got to live in a city many years to fully feel and get a sense of it. In all my years living in Toronto I've never heard a Torontonian espouse any kind of aspiration to be like NYC. Never. I think that's what some Montrealers think because they see how much Toronto has grown in population. Since the referendum many people fled to Toronto and Toronto grew in population, as opposed to Montreal which has not.
Most people who say its boring or nothing to do in Toronto have no idea what the heck they are talking about lol. Toronto has an awesome events nightlife entertainment and culture scene where you can go to places for every race and background. Its the financial center in Canada when people think Canada they think Toronto Or Vancouver first. Nuff said.
Montreal vs Vancouver, something that is not often said of.
Montréalers don't know much about Vancouver just liked how vancouverites don't know much about Montréal. Think geography, history and culture matters for these types of video the Toronto Montréal rivalry is a story that has lasted decades hence why people have strong opinions on it
5:51 did he actually say he likes the winter in Montreal?
To me the biggest difference between Toronto and Montreal is if you ask someone in Toronto about Montreal or Vancouver, they will happily point out good qualities of both cities. When you ask Montrealers or Vancouverites about Toronto and they almost always focus on negative old stereotypes, even if they have never actually been there. It doesn't always have to be a competition to "prove" your city is better than another city. One thing though, to my mind Toronto is more focused on the future and Montreal is more focused on the past. Not saying that is bad or good, it just means there is a different vibe in both cities.
Lots of people in Mtl told me great things about Toronto.
Omg this, but I feel like it actually applies to the rest of Canada vs. Toronto. People outside of the GTA who haven't properly lived in the area tend to just hate us based on the claim that we're "rude" because we live in a busy city (apparently not stopping to say hi to every random person you meet down the street is rude? imagine having to do that in the middle of downtown lol).
I went to Vancouver recently for school and leading up to it, everyone in Toronto was telling me how great it is there and how nice the people are. I only heard praise. The reality was the opposite. People there would immediately estrange me as soon as I said where I'm from. I've also had the same treatment in Ottawa and by someone from northern Ontario.
But I've never experienced exclusion like that in Toronto (and I say that as an immigrant). People there don't automatically treat you different just because you reveal you're from a different country, province, or city. I find it ironic that we're the ones called rude and pretentious when, as you said, people outside of Toronto tend to always reduce the conversation down to proving how they're so much better whereas I find that Torontonians don't even care about this ridiculous sense of competition. It just screams insecurity imo lol.
@@dewdrop6404 It's childish; all cities have good and bad points.
@@bobbbxxx Yup, exactly. Toronto has its share of bad (a lot of which many don't seem to understand is just a normal part of being a big city) but reducing it to just that is plain prejudiced.
I miss Montreal so much, I was way happier there.
God I want to leave Belgium x)
I feel you.
Came here back in 2012 thinking I’d be here for a year. It’s 2022, I’m now Canadian and I’m not going back the France ! Noooooope loo
I live outside of Toronto ..Never wanted to live there for many reasons But one thing that will always have me seeing Toronto as a negative is the subway someone that never been to Toronto wanted to smell Toronto Or explain it in a color ...Grey is the Color And Old musk Like dead swamp smell .........And i am right how? Toronto sits ontop of Trillions of tons of Shale rock Shale that buried deep in the ground from the ice age And was moved and crushed into paste during its thaw Lake Ontario is one of many results The subway system was drilled into this shale that smells like rotten wood paste mixed with dirt on a rainny day The end result for me is Grey depressing people to and from work No one interacts with each other Or would go out of there way to do so .....Montreal I see more lively people free festivals And as long as you try to speak a few words in french You honor the person And they are helpful Toronto You are expected 100% english And still might not get the time off someone Or which way to Yonge st etc
Oddly the same people in Toronto run north for holiday weekends ....Same people waving good morning at campgrounds
An interesting question would be asking the the french people from France what they think about the fellow french people in Montreal /Quebec? And how they compare in both culture and lifestyle. Then we might hear something interesting.
French people in France may be feel that that they have become too Americanized living in Montreal .
Watch my video “Montreal what do you think of France”, there is some discussion of this in the video and the comments
Toronto is an economy oriented city.
I live in toronto but absolutely agree Montreal is a vibe. But the more I spent time there I found the people to look interesting but lack real depth . Toronto people are hardworking and it’s hustle that makes us appreciate what we have . Also the amount a racism i experienced in Montreal was disgusting and I am a black women btw. I think people are drawn to Montreal for the beauty and fun and low cost of living but there are drawbacks especially if you are over 30.. but that’s just my opinion
Sorry to hear you had issues with racism :/
This is making me nervous. I really wanted to move to Montreal but I hear a lot about discrimination there
@@cloudsurfer73 it’s just my opinion love , if you feel drawn there then there is a reason .. there is discrimination but there are a lot of black folks who are socially conscious so you won’t be alone , you will find community !just be prepared because all glitter is not gold
This video could be replicated almost word for word here in Australia, with Sydney being Toronto and Melbourne being Montreal.
Is Melbourne multi-lingual like Montreal?
A question for you Dan,and hope to get some answers even from all the other's Montreal resident's is...
Is it true that the healthcare system is not that great in Montreal,actually in all Quebec province ? I heard people complaining about how worse is the healthcare in Quebec,compaired next to the Ontario system 🤨🤔
Is this true ?
Ohhh that's a good question. I've been lucky not to have any serious health issues while in Quebec, so I have no experience here. But I've heard Montrealers complain about healthcare. Other commenters can probably say more
@@TheNewTravel Do you reccomend to have a private insurance even if the healthcare is public ?
Health care is terrible but compared to rest of Canada it's not far off (health care in rest of Canada is on the edge too). One annoying thing is that they don't really have walk in clinics like rest of Canada. So if you have a small problem you have to go to the ER and wait 10hours.
Haven't experienced it myself but my anglo colleague left after having a health issue for 4 months and feeling mistreated by those in the healthcare system because he couldn't speak much French yet
No so great compared to Western Europe but still good , do not forget Québec may have a longer standard of living but has a longer life expectancy longer ( before covid)
I'm from Europe and lived in Toronto for 6 months a few years ago and visited Montreal twice. The biggest difference in my opinion is the city-like feeling that I didn't get in Toronto despite its size. It just looks like a huuuuuge village with a bunch of skyscrapers downtown. Montreal just looks like a normal (e.i. European :P) city, with a small city center, then wider central districts with apartment buildings, and then family houses on the outskirts.
Multiculturalism and Immigration did that, Toronto prior to all the immigration was extremely friendly and communitarian and its own culture and bay-gable architecture. All destroyed.
Who knew you need the native founding population to maintain Western Civilization, the jet set billionaires profiting from it all don't care, they'll destroy an entire nation, Jet off to a new victim, rinse and repeat.
Hi Mr. NT. always enjoy your travels and your videos. my comment would be ( a former martimer liviing in Calgary) Always my stop heading to the martimes was always Monteal. I love the city the people the food the old port walking the many parks and of course riding the Metro. regarding TO I"ll pass. Thank you for your recent video..🥰🕍🚝
Je suis complètement d’accord avec la dernière personne ! J’ajouterais qu’il y a beaucoup de béton à Toronto, alors que Montréal est plus verte.
Oui exactement c'est très gris/beige. J'ai trouvé ça moche et comme la ville n'avait pas d'âme ou de personalité
Montréal est tout de meme reconnu pour son architecture brutaliste. Du béton ce n'est pas toujours laid ;)
Toronto for better professional advancement opportunities. Montreal for parties, especially during F1 weekend.
Montreal is for quality of life and Toronto is for the standard of living
Hoo boy, I wish I had run into you when you were filming this. I have a lot to say about on this topic!
Pls spill here, I wanna know your thoughts.
I always find the Montreal is “euro influenced” very interesting, and sometimes wonder if those people have lived/spent much time in Europe. Montreal is 100% very North American and not European at all. Same with Quebec City, outside of the historic old town, very North American. I felt 0 resemblance between living in Paris and Montreal outside of speaking French.
I grew up in Toronto and the Greater Toronto Area. I would mention one important point:: if our national borders were a straight line, Toronto would be the second largest city in the State of New York and the second major metropolis after New York City. In fact, because of its proximity, half of New York state (the western portion) would migrate to and live in Toronto. Buffalo and Rochester wouldn't hold a candle. Also, whenever the Yankees come to play the Jays, more than a third of attendees are native New Yorkers from western New York. I've been told by numerous native New York citizens that Toronto is not that different from, say, Manhattan or Brooklyn or Queens. Let this sink in.
You should come to Vancouver, I have lived 4 years in each and for me Vancouver is a better fit.
If the people in the video share the dislike of Toronto being soulless, they have yet to see Vancouver... I can't stand that city, there is absolutely nothing cultural happening in Vancouver and the people are some of the rudest I have ever encountered and adding to that the homelessness crisis in absolutely mind boggling, reminded me of LA.
I'm from NYC and prefer Montreal over Toronto. Montreal is obviously more special due to the French culture, but it's also more beautiful, older, more lively etc. It's more of a big deal for me to go to old Montreal, a nice French bistro or cafe, hear French being spoken around me etc than go to Toronto, which feels like any other American city.
Agreed. Toronto feels A LOT like Chicago.
Am surprised no one talked hockey here.
In Montreal they were openly drinking. That tell you alot.
Here's my take - I'm from the NYC metro area all my life, born and raised in Northern NJ and have worked for decades in Manhattan - BUT my mother's family emigrated to Montreal, with some of them later moving to Toronto, so all my life I've visited both cities. Toronto is indeed the "NYC of Canada" in terms of its stature. It's a juggernaut of a city with tons of opportunity. It is a center of finance, culture, trade, art, etc. and very much a world-class city. However, while it's like NYC in those ways, it doesn't have the character that NYC has. It doesn't have much character at all, honestly. It's just Canadian wanna-be NYC but feels like a bland, modern, midwestern US city to be honest and just happens to fly Canadian flags and use Canadian currency. Montreal, on the other hand, is LOADED with character - enough for both cities and then some. Montreal is much more like NYC in every OTHER way than the ones I mentioned about Toronto. Montreal has more stark ethnic diversity, mutli-lingual (NOT just French but other also), older history (or at least older FEELING) much like NY City, and character. It has its foods, too. Like NYC's pastrami, they have viande fumee (smoked meat). NY has their hot dogs, Montreal has their steamies. They each have their own bagels and to me they are equally great so that one can't get a bagel of either quality anywhere else in the world. Montreal also has their poutine (which has roots in NJ diner "disco fries", believe it or not) and their world-renowned steak, also crepes and French food in general... Montreal is a smaller city than Toronto but the art and culture are much more prominent. Montreal is a far, far more INTERESTING city and has its own flavor, its own character, its own identity whereas Toronto's identity is very much a generic "Canadian" identity intermingled with a "NYC-wannabe" identity. I will pick Montreal over Toronot any day. Of course, being in NYC I feel we have all the "big" stuff that Toronto has and even better, but Montreal offers me tons of things I don't get in NYC.
Tbh toronto is too cookie cutter north american city
The reason Montreal seems more like NYC is because it was Canadas NYC until the 60s/70s. Most of Canadas history was with Montreal as the biggest. Toronto is a fairly young city that shouldn’t really have its character compared to NYC or Montreal, they’re older.
I can always tell when someone has very little visited Toronto or spent lots of time downtown. Downtown Toronto is for sure trying to resemble Mahattan, but the rest of the old Toronto city is absolutely nothing like New York and has their own charms that people never consider or explore.
4:13 best part of the video 🤣
I live in Hamilton, the people in Toronto should take note of what Montréaler's think and not insult them because they are correct in their observations 6:31
As someone born and raised in Toronto I agree with the first girl. Toronto is pretty soulless. It's always the first thing I notice about smaller or other cities is the heart and soul. (Yes ik it depends on what part or Toronto you come from)
I worked with several ex-Montrealers. They all preferred Toronto to live and work because it is run more efficiently than Montreal.
Wait so is Montreal slower?
@@murk959 The transit system is apparently.
The last girl resumed it perfectly!
Montreal has history and character, Toronto is a collection of glass rectangular condos and they don't cherish their culture and knock down the old architecture
The lady lady said it all
Ein Bit Bitte! That's a good beer. U.S. Air Force Base near Bitburg. As in Bonzo goes to Bitburg. Montreal seems to be a better place. Toronto was awesome in the 1970's, now it looks way too hipster duufus for me.
Toronto : first round exit and early golfing season for the Leafs. - Gary.
Good of you to stop by Gary 😆 now bring the NHL to Quebec City and Halifax!
Asking a Montrealer about Toronto is futile. Radio Free Vestibule nailed it in one of their songs
I don't want to go to Toronto
I don't want to go
All of the blocks are square
None of the streets are twisted
None of the streets are paved with bricks
There's too many elevators in Toronto
Not enough stairs in Toronto
Not enough stairs
I never know whether to speak french or English when I meet people when I'm in Montreal. Super confusing.
Btw the Bitburger Beer is NO Canadian Beer
It’s a German Beer 🍺
He was refering to t the thoughfulness of the gift. Good beer.
Biggest difference to me is GTA is about twice as big as metro Montreal - that can be good and bad!
I love Montreal and I’m from Toronto. Why because it’s very European in its vibe. (I also love Europe and especially Paris) … Anyway it’s our differences that make us interesting.
I’m from Toronto and love this city but they are right to a certain extent. It. Has become far more Americanized in the last 2 decades compared to Montreal or even Vancouver which has its own west coast vibe different from both. But the multiculturalism and variety you have at your disposal in Toronto is unmatched to any city I’ve been too other then NYC. And that is what makes it Canadian and different from the big cities down south imo
@@SleepMeditationandAffirmations I think Toronto genuinely believed that this focus on individualism was to benefit individual authenticity and diversity and perhaps people are starting to realize that collective unity is what enables people to respect individual differences.
I agree with both of these comments as a native Montrealer living in Ontario. The thing is I think some us need to perhaps be more open minded to the subcultures which exist in Toronto! I.e. speaking of Toronto cultures rather than a single Toronto culture. I think what rubs me the wrong way about Toronto is more so the powerful lobby groups like homeowners rights associations that are a lot more powerful than in montreal. Again, I love Toronto, but that renting culture is something that's unique to Montreal and perhaps QC in North America, in my humble opinion.
Lmao toronto is nothing compared to nyc, i have lived in ny. The people there are humble and easy to talk to, above that they are very talented with really good traits
@@julienbguyon8956 That attitude is generally the north american attitude, not exclusive to toronto.
@@FG-bu3jp yeah fair enough! Although I think it's also more prevalent in general in global urbanized centers. I think you can really see the contrast between Toronto and Montreal.
"multiculturalism" and this is a good thing because?. Pretty sure these people came to Canada for a reason and it wasn't multiculturalism that brought them, it was a culture that breeds success and safety, theirs a reason Japan keeps its doors closed and why its the safest and cleanest and healthiest in the world and it was the exact opposit of multiculturalism that got them their. Something Canada used to have before immigration and now everyone that is from that founding population are leaving the country in droves and taking their wealth with them. Canada will be one big Detroit in the future once the bubble bursts. When it does where do you think all the Die-versity is going to flee to next? wherever the founding population went...like parasites...and they'll continue to invade their communities whilst also hating them as much as possible. Pathological would be an apt word to describe these multiculturalism people.
As someone who has wanted to come to Canada for over 20 years, I love both cities but would pick Montreal if I could choose cause she just seems a little more cooler.
Absolutely prefer Montreal
Montreal QC is my favorite city in CANADA. Montreal subway transit way better than Toronto transit.
Toronto, c,est une banlieue de Chicago ou de Detroit. Tres original !
I’m a new permanent resident who have just landed in Toronto 2 months ago and these videos are already making me consider moving to Montreal further down the road. Toronto is below expectations. Good thing I’m bilingual.
I love Montreal, but of course there will be some bias in this video since MTL and T are sort of rival cities. I hope to travel to Toronto soon and ask people what they think of their city, and of Montreal, etc. That being said, I hope you enjoy your time in Canada wherever you are.
Stay where you are. Montreal is a ghetto. 😂
If you're bilingual then move to Mtl
Definitely check Montreal out but not for in winter or you may second guess yourself...
Wait how did you only move two months ago and are already a PR, if I may ask?
Would be cool to see a video featuring people who would be affected by bill 21 to see how they feel about it and whether it has changed their outlook on living there.
Bull 21 does not change anything ... people are more respectful of our culture ... I am catholic and nobody knows ...it is private , my sexuality is private and my life is private... I have friends from everywhere and we have fun ... we don't have to pray or show any sign of religion ...
@@jeanbolduc5818 Ask Muslim, Sikh, Orthodox Jewish people before you say nothing changed because I suspect things got even worse for them.
@@froggerc625 As a Sikh, thank you... would love to see him interview people about Bill 21
Ask them what they think of Vancouver.
Bitburger in Montreal😂😂 LOL How did you fancy the beer?
That's it let the hate and dislike flow freely, we thrive on it, it feeds our souls.
Montreal was fun to visit, use to go at least twice a year, but last few times had some bad experiences with the locals and sadly won't be back and haven't been back since 2015
i would say Montréal has the most Canadian culture on the east side.
A friend of mine said that Toronto is the "default" city.