How Germany Is Rethinking The Olympics
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- Looking into the Rhein Ruhr City initiative, that is planning to bid for the 2032 Olympic Games.
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This didn't age well...
honestly, what a shame… I talked about this in my sports management class, because it was a such good idea, and it made sense. I guess it was ahead of its time. They will need more bad examples like Rio, to consider changing the system. But overall this was a great video, and watching you, motivates me even more to study Sports Management!
"Looking into the Rhein Ruhr City initiative, that is planning to bid the 2032 Olympic Games"
**Laughs in Brisbane**
@@clevergirl4457 laughs in Kangaroo with XXXX coming out of your mouth
Brisbane was much more preferred since the start because of serval reasons.
1. They have wanted to originally host the 2032 games for years.
2. They are reusing infrastructure from 2 commonwealth games and the 2000 Olympics to host the games.
3. The IOC now wants to announce host cites early so that they have more time to prep. Brisbane was more planned out so it now has 11 years compared to the usual 7 to get ready.
Considering how 2024 Olympics is happening in Paris, a European City, and since giving the Olympic games to a single continent in a short span is discouraged, Germany didn't have much chance to begin with... Maybe bid for 2036 or 2040 Olympics, Rhein-Ruhr might have a chance to showcase its vision:)
„The first plastic-free olympics ever“ The first Olympics, 400 BC:“Am I a joke to you?“
Haha, or any games before the 70s actually.
The first Olympic Games were held in 776 BCE.
I was thinking that about 1896.
@@zabbiful before 1907, when plastic was invented
@@TheWoozie147 well but the olympics before 400 BC had plastic
My recommendations: how germany is rethinking the olympics
me (a german): wait, we are?
Same lol
"70% in the region support the idea." Wen haben die denn da gefragt?
Peter Pan In Umfragen wird selten die ganze Bevölkerung befragt
@@PeterPan-dz7mu why the fuck do I understand German?
@@jesusnavin5017 well, where are you from?
"The Rhein Ruhr region is united by sports"
* shows Dortmund fans *
Schalke fans: "Ight imma head out."
Who are Schalke? BVB is the only rhein club
@@catpaco BVB isnt a Rhine Club
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Yea Schalke fans be heading out the Bundesliga this time😂
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hey guys i’m american so i suck at soccer obviously but i wanna say aubameyang was really fast and good for me on fifa 16
Hmmm Germany rethinking the Olympic Games in the 30's? Where have I seen this before?
@sa that's what y'all said last time and before that
@sa laughs in delusion
I was hoping to find a comment like yours XD
@@jerinmathew4726 As a German I'm sorry for that dellusional guy
@sa dont represent our country like that
Germany is one of the few suitable countries to host Olympics
Last time it didn’t go so well
@@christiancage7647 the last times...
But Germany proved by hosting the FIFA World Cup 2006 that it is a good host for big sport events
We are not all that sustainable, we just paid of coal companies with billions of taxpayer euros so they shut down coal fuelled energy production in 2038. 2038! Most of the coal plants that we are paying to shut off were at the end of their runtime by that anyways. So we surely have a long a way to go.
@@thore345 the 2006 world cup was the best one!
There are many countries who could host an Olympics tomorrow if needed, I don’t think Germany is there yet to be honest.
I never really understood why cities host the Olympics and not whole countries/regions like others sports tournaments
The Olympics was first only reserved for upper class armature athletes who competed voluntarily and some sports like tug of war, pigeon shooting or motorsport racing did not need a large stadium due to its small overall popularity. It was in the 1936 Olympics when Hitler decided to go all out with money and make it what it is today.
@@Ronakvevo its based on tradition why the olympics is hosted in a city rather across the nation?
The Olympics is a totally different ballgame (pun intended) than any single-sport event, however big the latter is. One of the many, many crucial differencecs is that it would be virtually impossible to organize an Olympic Games in any bigger-than-moderate size country so that fans coming from a given country could reach all, orr even most of, the venues on a schedule - just imagine an Olympic games held in the USA or Russia... and fans rooting for their swimmers in, say, New York or Moscow, should then travel to another key final of a different sport to, say, Los Angeles or Vladivostok in half a day...
You see, for the average fan going to an Olympic Games to a foreign country - especially on another continent - only makes - financial and common - sense if they feel they have a chance to see and root for as much of the athletes of their country as possible - but definitely more than a handful. If the venue is one city, this is relatively easily arranged with a sensible scheduling of the events - but becomes a nightmare if instead of a city the fans are supposed to cross a country, especially bigger ones... And it's almost guaranteed that most Olympics would be held by larger countries... just take the last 10 Summer Olympic Games, and the countries hosting them: the Soviet Union, USA, South Korea, Spain, USA, Australia, Greece, China, UK, Brazil - South Korea and Greece are the only two where fans would have had any realistic scenario to have to travel around the country and still not miss a lot of the events...
And that's only the time/distance aspect... think about the travel and lodging costs. I don't think it yould be realistic to expect hosting countries to allow such a huge crowd to travel for free or on heavily reduced prices - that would incur gigantic extra costs for the hosting nations.
In a nutshell: having a whole country organize an Olympic Games would IMHO be too much of a challenge from the fan experience aspect. Now, having smaller regions host the Games - that is immediately a much more viable idea, especially if it alrerady has such a good traffic infrastructure as the Ruhrgebiet has. That could definitely work.
bioLarzen Haha good one... I think you missed that no one really watches the Olympics in person, just look at the empty ranks at all the events in the past Olympic Games..
@@ja_u Brazil was an outlier because it's not a rich country - but otherwise I don't think there was a problem with the number of spectators in the games before...
It sounds like Rhine Ruhr should host the Olympics a few times in a row.
Considering LA had already had the idea of hosting the Olympics forevermore, it seems they now have a competitor. Or maybe what we need is a rotation system...
@@mastertrams not only rotation, I'd make every country that wish to participate pay a quota (poorer countries are an exception) to contribute on the expenses of the organization
The ideas that the Rhine Ruhr Olympics are great but restricting it to only to that region would be ignoring the many other regions that could host it; like Cascada(a multinational hosting opportunity), Bos-Wash (heavily populated region), Rust-belt (still has many fields and stadiums in great condition from the glory days), the state of Texas (which has many large cities within a close distance from one another) and many other large metropolitan regions (not to mention all the none American regions I didn’t name). Rhine Ruhr will bring a golden age for the olympics that will reinvigorate regions, lessen the burden of the olympics and many more benefits yet to be seen
Reginald Jones that would be awesome
The Rhine Ruhr games
As a German I would support this if the IOC reduced its parasitic profit margin. They don't invest but only skim the profits.
True
Robin Östringer I agree with you. But as you know the IOC will not do that because there is so much money to be made!
I would probably support it as long as Germany/the Region doesn't loose money. I think there are too many big sports events in authoritarian countries. I don't really care about the amount of money that the IOC makes, as long as it pays of for the region (at least over like 4 years. It probably won't work that it pays of within the games itself, but the built ingrastructure will create profits as well)
@@melonlord1414 lose money , loose money is what is left after a night out .
@@margaretingleby679 many people all over the world make a lot of money out of this. I don't see how it is fair when the region that hosts it makes a loss.
The Rhein Ruhr region is united by sports...
Yeah, go into a soccer bar in Gelsenkirchen in a Dortmund shirt and see how that goes.
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Oder eben mit dem Gladbach Trikot nach Köln 😬
@meaning less ich hab zu eurem Thema echt keine Meinung, aber man muss doch echt nicht direkt beleidigen, oder?
Nice made up words lmao
Eurer Deutsch ist echt Scheiß, wisst ihr?
"90% of venues already exist" is even underselling it. The _only_ things that would be built for the olympics are:
- a new olympic stadium for the athletics events (this is the one big project needed)
- a canoe/kayak slalom parcour next to the existing rowing venue that a sports club was planning on building anyway, but would now partly use olympic funding
- a few temporary venues like archery range in a park or road cycling/triathalon in the streets
*Everything else* will be done in existing stadiums (most of them in their original use, some of them - like field hockey - in adapted football stadiums because we have such an abundance of them in this area) or adapted convention centres (for boxing, fencing, table tennis, etc.). Even the equestrian events would take place in a venue that is one of the four major events on the FEI tour (CHIO in Aachen).
@Elijah Edric Guinto Well, most events would be held in converted exhibition space (e.g. Messe Essen), but some in adapted football stadiums like the Schalke arena, yes.
Nope! Mööönchengladbach has an operating full size field hockey stadium
@@TheRamlord Partially true. Games with a small expected crowd will be played in the hockey stadium (~9k seats), but the more important games with bigger crowds will be played in the temporarily adapted "Borussia Park" (top league football stadium with ~46k seats).
@@QemeH as far as i remember the HockeyPark in Mönchengladbach was able to be expanded to 12k easily and had several further expansions kept in mind
I don't see why a new olympic stadium would be even necessary tbh, why not just have it in the existing venues?
The idea is extremely good. Why using one single city spending so much money in venues which will be rarely used? Using a whole region, existing venues and insfrastructure is more economically and enviromentally viable.
The idea is not good. I live in the Ruhrgebiet, and what the video conveniently forgot to mention is that we are one of the poorest, if not the poorest region in all of Germany. Gelsenkirchen and Duisburg are the poorest cities of the entire country. We are basically Germany's Detroit.
Getting the Olympics here would do nothing for the regular citizens. The money would not go to the cities that desperately need it, at least not in a way that would make up for all the expenses that would have to be taken by them before.
Wasserrübenvergilbungsvirus „the poorest region in all of Germany“ Ostdeutschland disagrees
@@AnonD38 Deswegen ja auch eine der ärmsten Regionen. Ich weiß nicht, ob wir tatsächlich die ärmste Region sind. Nah dran sind wir aber ganz bestimmt - die zwei ärmsten Städte Deutschlands sind Gelsenkirchen und Duisburg.
Der Rest meines Kommentars ist trotzdem noch gültig. Die Olympia-Organisatoren sind unglaublich korrupt, und die Gastgeberstädte sehen durch die Spiele kaum eine nachhaltige Verbesserung ihrer Lebensqualität.
Wasserrübenvergilbungsvirus hatte auch nur den kleinen Ausschnitt kommentiert, bei dem Rest stimme ich dir zu :)
I raise you a bigger idea, why not having a single place (city, region whatever) host the Olympics for 100+ years, or at least an interconnected set of counties that host different things. It doesn't matter where is being hosted it's still is an unnecessary waste of money many places shouldn't be wasting
he is definitely making an argument for it. I'm german and have not heard of this, but this sounds great! Need to look into the contra arguments, but so far so good.
Such a logical comment is not allowed who are you and what have you done with standard CZcams comments!!!
One of the most important counter arguments, the video totally ignores, is: People aren't against the Olympic Games, they are against the IOC and their contracts. The IOC is only pushing for the profits, every lost is to be taken by the local governments.
How is it, there is no money for the region, but when the Games arrive, all of sudden, money pops up from the ground? If the argument is that the region will have a long term gain from this, because it needs these investments, anyway, how is it, only Olympic Games suddenly make them possible? And no, all cities suffered from the believe, the plus in tourism and other hosting-benefits will provide the capital. The profits go only in one direction: The IOC and a little bit to the private sector. But the Games are payed by the public sector, the plus in taxes are minimal.
Meanwhile, the IOC is selling the TV rights, the ad-rights and everything else - the cities (or in this case, the region) don't see a Penny of this money. And as more and more advertisers from western democracies step away from sponsoring these events, the money more and more comes from autocratic regions like Russia, Dubai or China. Thus, the city (or region) simply ends up being a marketing platform, where some athletes are the actors, for shady ads.
And as the current football crisis shows: What is suffering the most is the sport for the masses and the small leagues. The Bundesliga will survive, but of those 19.000 clubs mentioned in the video, most of them are having enormous problems right now and many will go bankrupt in the near future.
tl;dr: The Olympic Games aren't criticized for being not sustainable enough, they are criticized for a corrupt IOC and making the profits private while the costs go public.
Well, they only tell, what they alredy have. But not what is still missing. For Exmaple the olympic village. And in my opinion the most crucial point an olympic stadium, or at least a big athletic stadium. And I don't see, that even one city in Rhein Ruhr would want one, even if they get it as a present.
good luck getting an English speaking person to pronounce "Ruhr"
Just say it like rural without the „al“ that’s good enough ;)
Fuck, imagine learning one word in german...
wroowr
@@bla9621 Kann ich mir nicht vorstellen!
@@bla9621 it's more the sound than the word. The rough r (idk what it's called) is challenging for a lot of native English speakers. Kinda like R in French or the GH/KH in Arabic.
This is exactly what I wanted a future Olympics to look like
Me too, The olympics need a Worldcup-like location system
@@brokenbaron2434 maybe not on that scale but defiantly reagonally scale. A nationwide scale can be difficult for tourists to travel from one sports venue to another.
Thank you everyone for liking my comment
They certainly need reforms
The good thing Is that the CEO has already a 40 long page of *CHANGES* to alternate how the Olympics should work economically, one such example that I can come up in my head, is that the bidding cost should reduce, but idk anything else so you have to check on that
Germany always waving efficiency high. I like your content.
Apart from Berlin's airport
DB
And above we probably have two fallow Germans😂
@@silberkatze2326 im English maybe anglo saxon tho
@@toker6664 I was gonna comment this
They should have one of the islands in Greece to permanently hold an Olympic city, idk that sounds like its really cool.
I would LOVE to see that. It would mantain the symbolism, give a nice income to Greece and end with the nonsense we have now. And we could make It look increadible
Big question here, how are they going to maintain the huge stadiums and facilities during the years between the games?
@@johnpark4650 Through increased tourism to the region, or the could laud the Olympic members to help subsidize the building and maintenance.
@@johnpark4650 don't know....one would have to crunch numbers to know for sure. How much Money could they win during the olympics? How much does It cost to mantain the buildings? I think construction with a bit of sponsorship could be ridiculously cheap, but i know nothing about manteinance of olympic facilites... they could do a few concerts for sure and It could be a turistic destination if done properly...
Yeah and they could call the city "Olympia" or something like that.
I think only Vancouver 2010 was success largely because Vancouver had a lot of the infrastructure already in place to host a winter olympics.
London 2012 was a success
Sydney 2000?
ya and most of the venues get used often now. especially with the mls, cfl, nhl and usports.
London 2012 has proved to be the most sustainable so far with the most successful legacy. All of the facilities have found tenants and been continuously used since the games - no white elephants.
@comenta comentario Brazil & Athens have had the worst legacy in terms of usage of the facilities built post-games.
Other people: Click on this to find out how the Olympics are being rethought
Me, a German: We're doing what now
öffis im ruhrgebiet...lol
aber wenn es hilft innovation zu kickstarten dann bin ich voll dafür
Der ÖPNV in Deutschland gehört zu dem 5 besten der gesamten Welt! V.a. wenn man es auf das gesamte Gebiet bezieht und nicht bloß auf die Großstädte. Die Deutschen jammern auf extrem hohen Niveau!
@biracayipadam20 Absolut!
@@felixw19 Natürlich geht es noch weitaus schlimmer. Aber wenn ich dann im Dortmund an dem dreckigen HBF stehe und eine Stunde auf meinen zug warte, das alles nur um eine 12 Minuten Fahrt zurückzulegen, da es keine Alternative, außer natürlich das Auto gibt. Dafür Zahlt man dann natürlich auch noch 6€ pro Fahrt, da mein Ziel nicht mehr zum Stadtgebiet von Dortmund gehört.
@@jackpresley4537 auf welcher Nahverkehrsverbindung im Ruhrgebiet gibt es denn bitte nur einmal die Stunde eine Verbindung? Selbst wenn ein direkter Zug so selten fahren würde, gibt es wahrscheinlich zusätzliche Verbindung, die trotz Umsteigen ungefähr genau so lange dauern.
@@felixw19 Der Zug fährt tatsächlich vier mal in der Stunde durch den Bahnhof, davon hält aber nur einer. Natürlich kann man einen Bahnhof später aussteigen und wieder zurückfahren, da bleiben aber nur 3 Minuten zum umsteigen, was oft dazu führt, dass man den zug zurück verpasst. Also ist die sicherste und schnelles Methode, auf den einen Zug zu warten, der den Bahnhof direkt anfährt.
Spain was the first country to propose a new system of the Olympics in 2020.
Sadly back in 2015 the IOC didn't understood that concept, I hope Madrid doesn't give up.
Olympics in Madrid would be paid by German tax money, then you can give the Olympics directly to Germany!
@@MegaFister69 Thank you for the money Germany, we shall be sure to receive our funds from you
I think we've given Up....there's a lot to be made and we've tried many times. we definetely couldn't compete against the Ruhr....i'd say almost no one can
@@Boyd2342 Yeah, the Euro is gonna go down, Germany and the Northern countries must start to cut off funding to southern countries.
It will be a setback for Spain and Italy and whatnot but they should start standing on their own feet sometime.
Paid for by taxpayers' money of northern EU states while Spain has (and has always had) very low tax rates in comparison? Or how?
I think the football world cup in Germany was one of the more sustainable world cups. At least most of the stadiums still see million visitors a year at football games or concerts*. But it will be hard to convince the general public if the IOC is not changing its policy.
*of course not in 2020…
Not just on a economic scale. So many kids felt the spirit of the worldcup and began to play soccer. At this time i was 5 years old and so many others including me began to love soccer. I think without it i would play soccer to, but not with that spirit, and I am not even that good
It felt like that, yes. But in retrospect we’ve seen that it’s been organized with the same corrupt deals like quatar or Brazil.
@@smonge98 just a better outcome
Jefferson but that’s the sad part. Even if you’ve got the best circumstances possible, you still need corruption to get the tournament.
@@smonge98 true
*germany in the titel*
evry german:
i need to watch that video!
Jawohl.
Ein volk
Ein Reich
*Ein Kommentarbereich!*
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I would have loved to hear about the negative aspects. It was definitely interesting but it more sounded like an ad for the event, not like a journalistic approach to it. If that was never the goal, fair enough.
The worst thing he did, at least for me personally, is that he shows the Bvb multiple times and speaks about mentality that everyone gets along great,which is true for most of rhein Ruhr but Dortmund has a huge problem with right wing extremism. Showing them and speaking about how great everyone is to another is simply lying. Also rhein Ruhr is the poorest part of Germany with the highest crime rate of the country. It's still safe here but I would agree with you that he promotes it to much without even mentioning a single bad point.
Yeah, maybe we got a little too excited about the project. Just love the idea of fair and sustainable Olympic Games that actually benefit the people instead of exploiting.
@@AthleticInterest I think you made a good video by the way, you explained yourself in a way which makes me feel like I should support rhein ruhr 2032, it was just a critique of what was missing and I think it would have helped the video too
Right wing extremism? Germany has a bigger problem with left wing extremism, the ones who want to let half of Africa come to Europe
@@gre894 WTF? Look at all the Neonazis and "Ausländer raus" shouters. Right extremism is a way more dangerous problem then left. Or do you think people destroying cars and hurting/killing people are better than people peacefully protesting.
Molotovcocktails against signs is nor really a question to think about. The answer is clear
Living in Dusseldorf I totally agree to this. Basically entire Rhine Ruhr region feels like one big city with best possible public transport connectivity
Düsseldorf :))))
Germany bless 🖤❤️💛
only issue I know of is getting from a smaller city close to say Cologne to the ruhr citys but everything else is pretty good
I am living right in the Rhein-Ruhr region in Cologne and i would Love to see the opympic games direktly infront of our Doors.
It would also make a lot of sense as pointed out in the video.
Grüße aus Dortmund 🙂
@@Marco-rx6sd Grüße von noch einem Marco 🙋🏼
Grüsse aus Mönchengladbach
Grüße aus Witten
Grüße aus Essen 🔴⚪
As a German I didn't even knew we were thinking about hosting the Olympics in the first place lol
Lol
Why does it look and work so well...? It is German, what else!
This is a winning idea.
_builds airport in Berlin_
laughing in berlin airport
@@nerevarchthn6860 * **laughs in Berlin Airport**
@Issac Gomez Gr8 b8 m8
Well done on all the excellent content so far; the topics you have covered as well as your editing skills make the videos very enjoyable. I plan to use them with my high school classes over the coming months. Nice work!
1:11 Why is the bar at the right representing 2 bids higher than the one the to the left representing 3?
The intern screwed up
Seems like the last two bars got switched up. Well spotted! ^^
@@kekzio then why would the 3 of 2018 be different than the 3 of 2024 ?
@@Aaronit0 I wouldn't be. Either the bars or the numbers are switched up. Not both.
Lol
Brisbane just got the 2032 games
Really ? It went to Brisbane, Australia, and thus European Congo missed out.
@@jonglewongle3438 Excuse me?
Great topic! I remember when Brazil hosted the Olympics right after the World Cup. Our whole nation had to adapt, and it didn't help that we were disastrous in that semi final against none other than Germany lol 😂 Love the videos btw!
that result wasn't the issue, it was the huge amount of money you wasted on those 2 events and the fact that nothing you built is now being used, it just left to rot away, a complete waste for the people with all that infrastructure. And of course the huge level of corruption and scandals you have in Brazil, from the president all the way down. Feel sorry for the everyday people, the 99% of the population
@@charlesjay8818 This. Why develop a false façade, hosting two largely unmemorable and economically failed sports events, rather than developing the whole city and improving life there?
Brazil should never have been given the Olympics, there was no chance they would come out financially on top
Oh Germany!! You are so great!!
Says who?
@@aramisortsbottcher8201 He did
@@Nat3YT says who in the sense of "wherfrom do you want to know this?"
I studied in Essen University in the Rhein Ruhr region, It's one of the best regions in Germany, because of the university alliance in the rhein Ruhr region. If I am in Dortmund, I could go the cafeteria in the TU Dortmund with the card from Essen university. For the students the travelling is free in the entire state and covers some parts of Netherlands namely venlo. It's diverse with many cultures. It will be a beautiful venue to host the Olympics.
It;s free for international students but I don't know a word of German so I can't go there
@@Ronakvevo plenty of english classes if you look for it
I come from Düsseldorf. It is a great area and I would be happy to be in a host city of the Olympics!
Düsseldorf :))))
@@mikaniesing8321 Jaaa!
Remember the last time the olympics where in Germany.
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@@farbodpoorvash3278 He is not talking about 1936 olympics...We germans hosted the 1972 olympics in munich.
Although I dont know what his problem are with that event despite the fact that most buildings are not used anymore 48 years later.
Also to mention: Rhein-Ruhr has 3 airports in operation. Take that Berlin!
Hm ja aber Rhein Ruhr ist auch ne weit ausgestreckte Metropolregion. Berlin ist eine einzelne Stadt. Und vergiss mal nicht dass Berlin auch mal 3 Flughäfen hatte und man dieses Flugchaos an einem Punkt bündeln wollte, was auch sehr viel Sinn macht. Ein einzelner Großflughafen wäre auch für die Rhein Ruhr Region sinnvoll wenn man die Infrastruktur deutlich verbessern würde.
Ja genau, einer dieser Flughäfen ist wegen katastrophalem Brandschutz niedergebrannt und hat viele Menschen in den Tod gerissen. Ein anderer ist ein winziges Flugfeld, das Unmengen an Subventionen frisst und NUR von Billigfliegern angeflogen wird. Ist also nichts, weswegen man den Zeigefinger Richtung Berlin weisen darf!
As someone who actually lives in that area.. this would be a complete nightmare. This region is already plagued by some of the worst congestion, some of the worst long term building projects for streets, bridges, etc. Trains are already overcrowded (in non corona-times anyway) and the Olympics would mean waaaaay more people
Hence why he mentioned transport upgrades as being a requirement
I wrote my masters thesis on this exact topic. Actually in the cases of much smaller hosts like Atlanta and Sarajevo, it is a great economic benefit. But for Beijing and London it had no impact!
Sarajevo was a massive success, but sadly 50% of the Olympics stuff was destroyed during the siege. The other 50% is still in use but isn't high tech and world class like it used to be.
South East Queensland is doing something similar, and it looks likes it will host the games
Yes, at the end of the world with few people who will have access to these games! These Games in the heart of Europe could have been attended by so many more people because it would have been affordable for them. 200 million people within a 1000 kilometre radius! Why again AUSTRALIA of all places? These Games will be within reach of a few rich people and a few locals in this deserted, vast country at the end of the world.
Besides, it was only 21 years ago that Australia was allowed to host the Olympic Games. That's pretty unfair!
@@ruhri0411 i understand that,but as Australian we embrace the Olympics from being a country that lives and breathes sport. It wouldn't matter where it was as only the wealthy generally go anyway where ever it is. But Australia did win it,so come on down you don't need to go to the events there's plenty to see all over Australia and you'd be welcomed
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@@ruhri0411 Hahaha suck it up princess. Brisbane won WOOOOOOOOOO enjoy the long flight since we always have to
"All Olympic games in the last 50 years went over budget"
That's not true actually- London 2012 was £500 million under budget
Honestly the regional hosting should've always been the case. Doesn't make sense why one city must bear all of the burden
They should be considering fistball as one of the invitational sports for 2032. Great atmosphere, games and medals for Germany (fistball is a German stronghold) guaranteed 👌
Yes we would love to see fistball represented at Olympia 2032 in Germany!
I am amazed by the quality of your content. Also the video editing is close to perfect
My state ( Queensland, Australia) is actually doing a bid for 2032 as well. If it is successful my entire region (South East Queensland) will be hosting it in a much similar fashion to Ruhr where the events will happen in multiple cities (including mine). So I kind of hope that we will win the bid but Germany seems like a serious contender.
Remove the corruption from IOC by making the athletes in one Olympic game decide by vote which candidate will host in 8 or 12 years time. No more bribing of the IOC-members for that part of the process.
Brisbane was named preferred candidate by the IOC today....
That's a great thing!
This channel is going places. Awesome video, keep it up!
Say what you want about the Munich 1972 games, but the city has capitalized on the Olympic legacy... Few if any of the things built for the games are not in use any more - and that almost fifty years after the events...
Munich is not in the "Ruhrgebiet"
@@Nat3YT It is not. But both are in Germany.
Wow, i am actually living in the Ruhr area and never heard about that we might become a future host of the olympics. I have great memories regarding the football world cup in 2006. I would definitly appreciate it, if this project is going to work out!
And in the end Qatar will win the final bid 🤷🏽♂️
Hey, are you implying that there is some corruption going on? How dare you! It’s the Olympics! It’s JUST about the sports........
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So every other country in like the last 40 years buying the bid is OK but once an Arab country does it thats where you draw the line ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Kitten Hermit that’s just you implying things I never wrote. Tells you more about your views than mine.
@Born at 33 It applies to literally every country. Why would any country wanna host the olympics? There is no country where everyone discriminates and theres no country without discrimination. I dont know what makes you think the Western countries that have created the conditions for authoritarian rule and terrorism to take over in the first place is in any way more compatible with the Olympics suppossed ''ideals''.
@Typed Scroll So only Iranians and Indians can host it then?
Love your videos man, so clean and professional. Subscribed! Keep it up :)
First video i see from you and i liked the presentation and really intresting subject as well. You have a new subscriber.
Your perfect pronunciation of Rhein-Ruhr makes me wonder if you are actually German
If you have not noticed it by the German accent this was the ultimate hint.
Channel information --> location --> germany.
The pronunciation of “freight” also stood out to me as German
I didn't need to hear him say Rhein-Ruhr to figure that out, he has a german accent
I still think the Olympic Games 2036 in Berlin would be a good Choice since it’s such an important date.
And This a formula that has been already tested in the Naples 2019 summer universiade, that despite its name, it had events in all the Campania Region.
Eg. Rugby 7s in Naples;
Archery and Fencing In Salerno;
The archery finals @ the Caserta Royal Palace's garden
Football was scattered between Campania's 5 most important cities.
And I really liked that because the Fencing and archery tournaments took place at 40 minutes from my home that's not in Naples' city centre
great content !!!
I as a Rhein-Ruhr inhabitant think this is a fantastic idea
Would it make sense for a smaller nation to bid for the games like Ireland for example, as no one city has the capability to host a games but as a nation, we may. And as we are small, everywhere is quite close together and easily accessible. Our infrastructure would need an upgrade but it could be an idea
Dude, 3 bln USD for a village. That will nobody use later. It has to be done on an existing infrastructure, not building something for a one-time event and then letting it rot.
@@Beatleman91 What do you mean letting it rot? Graffiti artists and homeless love these "Rotting Buildings". If you think the buildings aren't needed however look no further than the 1908 St. Louis Olympics. Read on what a mangled mess it was.
@@Beatleman91 Olympic villages can be sold off to the public after the games.
@@bopete3204 yeah right. How come all other villages became slums, when Bo pete on CZcams has such a simple and elegant solution to this problem?
Rick Sanchez well if they become slums, that’s really on the city. The Olympic village in Munich is still used as quite cool student housing, and it’s close to 50 years old. If you can’t manage to sell almost brand new apartments in a major city, you have to be doing something wrong.
now that was a great video. Nice speaking, neat graphics and a solid line.
It's not really Germany who has gone about it in a different way. The rules changed and that was their response to it and I think it was SE Queensland that made the first official regional bid for 2032. The majority of infrastructure is already built there as well.
London 2012 was a success it regenerated the poorest area of London and nearly all of the stadiums are fully used
Sarcasm?
mein leben it’s true
London IS a leviathan of a city and the games were done all over England, this gaining the benefits just ecplained in the video.....the whole idea that this games are SOOOO revolutionary IS to sell the idea of the Ruhr.
Errr, London hasn't stopped regenerating that area. The 2012 Olympics are still regenerating Stratford to this day...
Germany rethought it so hard they didn't win the bid ahahaha
Amazing video. You deserve way more subs
This makes me think Austin-San Antonio could be good co-hosts.
130 km (80 miles) apart, with both an interstate highway and a train connecting them. Three Division 1 universities in the region provide all the sports venues you'd need, and the university dorms (empty in the summer) could be the athletes' village(s).
will this also suit the paralympic games, that also needs to be taken in to account as these venues need to be suitable to host disabled athletes.
I can't speak for the smallest stadiums. But the public transportation and also the medium to big sized locations are definitely accessible.
pretty much every "public" (including stadiums and so on) venue in Germany is already required to be accessible for everyone. Any further investment will undoubtedly have that in mind.
You could have included some stock footage from Düsseldorf when it is the central venue and also the capital of the state of north rhine-westphalia
India, Australia, Indonesia, and Qatar are also some of the interested parties in hosting the event as well.
Awesome video !! :) I would love to see Germany host the most sustainable games to date, and set an example for future hosting cities/regions.
Sounds less like "rethinking" and more like making a case for it to be held there indefinitely. I don't think many Olympic committees are sitting there will be saying after watching this "ok so we just need to build 14 cities close to each other and have them prosper for decades with great infrastructure also in place for years, why didn't we think of that!?"
This isnt the only region in the world where cities and urban areas are close together. Even multiple countries could host it jointly.
@@alexturlais8558 Agreed. If European football tournaments can host tournaments in regions rather than countries, one can make a case for the Olympics to be held in regions as well as countries.
@@christobin8108 transportation would be inefficient
@@carlosandleon disagree. Maybe in North America where public transportation links are patchy at best but in Europe and Asia, most countries are easily accessible
@@christobin8108 Yeah, sure buddy. But the implications of emissions for a mass of people to travel from country to country is gonna be significant.
And its not as easy as you think, it take me 6 hours to go from Barcelona to Madrid by car.
You can go by train but you might as well fly with the ticket prices.
The Ruhr Concept is a better alternative
LA 2028 has a really great plan where almost all the venues are preexisting. You love to see it.
The first idea of that I know of was earlier around 2016. Sachsen had the idea to host the winter Olympics all across Sachsen using existing venues like bobsleight track, skijumping thingy, different ice arenas because they had already all of that but in different cities, regions. Olympics just in Dresden with 1 second cluster a little bit outside of town was no option because they had to build to much things brand new.
I like your video. But I think it would be even better, if you provided some context to some more of the numbers (for example the available beds) you said, like you did with the size of the Rhein Rhur area. Without a reference I couldn’t quite understand, if those numbers are large or small in comparison to other areas. I really like the visuals of the video btw. Looks like a lot of effort went in to them.
Interesting Video, but why did you first compared the population density of the Rheinruhr to London and Paris (so Europe) and later the size to Tokyo? That makes no sense I had 0 knowledge of how I had to put it in contrast. I had to Google what the population density of Tokyo was and compared it to the Rheinruhr area to get a feeling of size. I too compared it to the size of London and Paris. So I really would have loved better linking of your informations and not just throwing random numbers in
No, it made sense. The population comparison was to show how large it is in terms of population ie. third-largest in Europe. The size comparison was to show that it wouldn't be too big of an area to travel between event and city easily by comparing it to Tokyo which is also hosting the Olympics. The actual area of the region is much larger than either London or Paris so wouldn't be a helpful comparison. By being smaller than Tokyo we know it's not too big of an area to host an integrated games, by being similar in population to London or Paris we know there are enough people there to not be overwhelmed and to provide spectators.
Hot take: cut the bullshit sports. You have your classics(athletics, wrestling, weightlifting, gymnastics, tennis, fencing, swimming, boxing, cycling, so on) which are mostly fun to watch, easy to understand and popular. They are also usually easily available to practice for most or a very direct and understandable display of athleticism. I can try to practice flippy gymnastics shit and fall on my face anywhere with a mat and while I dont know where my nearest velodrome is someone going at the speeds they do is obviously impressive.
But some of the sports from the past few games are so obscure/unavailable/unfit for the olympics they should really be cut. I practice Muay Thai and some are trying to get it in to the games but honestly a sport where kneeing your opponent in the face just cant fit in to the family friendly games without modifications that would make it barely recognizable as the sport it is and should be. Skateboarding is awesome but the way I see it park skating and female’s skating is so underdeveloped especially outside of the USA that skateboarding being an official sport with four events just doesn’t make much sense. Not to mention the fact that the creme de la creme of the sport would fail drug tests due to weed. Golf is barely a sport, it’s a game rich people play in their free time. Not that there is anything wrong with that but again golf hardly represents the best of all nations when it requires such grand expenses and specific conditions to do. Compare is to wrestling where the things you need to parttake are (1)a person to wrestle with (2)a relatively soft area where you dont break your neck. Add to this the fact that most cultures from the US or Russia to Senegal and Mongolia have some form of traditional wrestling. And they intended to drop that from the games due to a “lack of universally known talent” as if anyone non involved with the sport could name a single trampoline gymnast, equestrial dressage rider or canoe slalom athlete.
We did the same in Swistzerland for the young Olympic 2020. All the facilities already existed and the Olympics village is fully used for student accommodation !
This makes me think submitting “Colorado” as a US Winter Olympic venue makes sense. Denver/Boulder/Vail/Colorado Springs could capture 90% of the Winter Sports needs.
brisbane 2032
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I always think world sports events always should be in developed/ rich country. Otherwise its just a political move leads to corruptions.
So basically you're advocating the rich to get richer. FIFA 2010 in SA was good and need. World sport events bring tourism and put the country on the world map. Please explain why you think like you do and give an explanation. Give also a few examples on corruptions on world sports events.
Sports events should not be linked with tourism. If you have good tourist friendly structure and market them, people will come . As for the corruption Brazil is the biggest example. They were bribed to get construction, political ploy to build infrastructure that is not going to be used afterwards. Most of developing countries relies on taxpayers money to build these infrastructures that will be used for few time in a year. So that's a big money waster. There's numerous example of infrastructure that aren't being used properly throughout asian countries. And at last, sports are always for wealthy nation. Where they have proper domestic completion for respective sports, so infrastructure are being used most of the time. They also get the better results in most of sporting events anyway.
@@Djibriil The poor aren't getting any richer by hosting these events though. Hosting an Olympics is a net monetary loss. The temporary small bump in tourism does not come close to covering the huge costs. Most of the money made at the events themselves goes to the greedy bastards at the IOC and all their sponsors, not to the host city. Even with no corruption and efficient planning, it is a net loss. One of the major causes of Greece's financial troubles for the past 10-15 years is them hosting the 2004 Summer Olympics, which cost them 5% of their GDP.
I come from a poor country myself. I do not want my country to host any sych major games in the near or long-term future. The only reason many developing or newly developed countries do it is to make a big political statement. That's why China hosted in 2008. They made a loss on the event itself.
Football is a bit different. Football is a major world sport that runs for 8-9 months in a year. Any country with a good league system can host the FIFA World Cup using already existing stadiums or sell away the newly built stadiums to football clubs.
Olympics has events that no one cares about except for 2 weeks in 4 years.
@@tehsin13 Yes brother. And the tourism benefits of a sports event are temporary and small compared to the huge costs.
@@Banzybanz the worst part is that the facilities of 2004 Olympics aren't used today, they are left rotten. The situation is so tragic even the Olympics stadium OAKA Which was made for the Olympics and hosted the 2007 UCL final ( it costed 265 million euros) isn't fully functional and it is not maintained well
I live in Kön(Cologne) which is part of RheinRuhr and I would be delighted to see this happening
Alaaf 🎉
As a Vancouverite, I thought our city did an incredible job for the Olympics. Sure, we built a lot of venues, but they are being maintained and used like no others. The Oval is probably our city’s biggest sport center, and it would never have been built if we hadn’t hosted the Olympics. One of the most successful public transport systems in the world was drastically improved once we built the CanadaLine for the Olympics, to connect Athletes Village with the venues.
The difference between us and Rio, for example, is that we had the demand to keep them up after the games were gone.
There can be huge problems with hosting the Olympics, but there certainly ways around them. Germany certainly seems like one of very few countries suitable to host them.
Öffis im Rhein-Ruhr sind besser als man denkt, nur aktuell VIEL VIEL zu teuer.
Wir haben leider (gerade im Ruhrgebiet, komme von dort) einfach viel zu viele kleine Verkehrsgesellschaften. Die sind zwar durch ein Tarifnetz (z.B. VRR) verbunden, sorgen aber dafür, dass Linien von Stadt zu Stadt oft nicht ordentlich angeschlossen sind. Mehr Abstimmung und weniger Eigenbrötlerei würden den Öffis im Ruhrgebiet sehr gut tun.
Same für die DB, ist ja schön wenn sie mehr Service abdecken und anbieten aber wenn sie VW nicht aus dem Vorstand rausschmeißen kanns sich halt keiner leisten
Absolut richtig
Well yeah, obviously the olympic games keep going over budget. My great-grandfather, a wise man whom i never got to meet, already said it. The state never built for the budget they laid out, letalone for less. And you know why? Because reporting to a politician that something will cost 4 billion, then going 2 billion over budget, even though you knew exactly itll cost 6 billion, is much more likely to get you the funding than saying itll cost 6 billion from the getgo. This is true for the olympics as much as its true for any other megaproject thatll cost millions or even billions to complete.
Really good video!!
The use of the region makes a lot of sense. Combine this with the other proposal of a handful of permanent hosts on rotation - whose climate is optimal for winter or summer, of course - and the Olympics could be revolutionized.
Region hosting Olympics is a great idea. I always thought why does a single city host Olympics.
Only technically. For London 2012 for instance Manchester was used to host football matches so the idea of using regions makes an awful lot of sense.
In 1980 the Olympics were hosted by Moscow. But the soccer matches has been played in Kyiv.
Idk if it's a fair comparison, but Asian Games 2018 (Sporting events in Asia) was held in two cities in Indonesia, Jakarta (Java Island) and Palembang (Sumatera Island). Jakarta was chosen because it's the most developed city in Indonesia, and Palembang chosen because it already has an integrated sports complex (Jakabaring Sport City). Jakarta-Palembang were also used In SEA Games 2011 (Sporting events in Southeast Asia) so most of the facilities/venues were already available. Other cities in West Java and Banten provinces were also used during the events.
If this means the Northeastern Megalopolis can finally host a Olympic games, Than i am for i guess. But probably not until the 2048 Games.
I live in New Jersey and they should host as a reagon, it doesn’t have big cities but North Jersey makes up most of the New York Metro area and South Jersey is the philly metro area, a New York and philly host would work because we have existing venues already so you wouldn’t have to build many venues. LA has hosted 2 and is about to host a third but I think it’s time for a NY/NJ/Philly Olympics.
This regional system was already done in italy during the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin where different mountainous regions were used by athletes instead of being concentrated in one place
I can hear your German accent soooo clearly!!!
@Unknown Username I didn't say his English is bad. I said he has a german accent, in my opinion that does not necessarily mean bad English. My point is to show that this youtuber "Atheletic Interest" is actually (probably) german, so don't wonder this video is super pro Germany. 😄
Not saying that is a crime, just saying that is not really surprising. My comment has more the intention of "playing around" with that impression.
The longest ad I've ever seen.
except the Germany bid is not the only multi city bid for 2032, there is also South East Queensland from Australia proposing the same thing
seeing men's dressage at Signal Iduna Park would be such a shock i don't think I would ever recover
The excitement of the voice is sometimes a bit cringe, but I like that they put the region finally on global display. No need to hide.
Its naive as well xD
As a german, a lot of this is really overexaggerated
@@TheFlohRiDa I am German myself. I think it's not necessarily overexaggerated, that's why I posted my comment actually. I think the infrastructure and all is there. The Rhein-Ruhr-area is just not yet "sexy" enough to have a metropolitan feeling to it. It is also not perceived as a metropolitan area, especially not from its own inhabitants what in turn evokes the impression that it's not metropolitan. Of course, some more connections still lack (cultural alliances, educational collaborations between universities, an overarching Verkehrsverbund (just imagine, you could go everywhere within the area by public transport really really cheap; the reason why some people from Bonn have never been to Düsseldorf might not be that they are not interested, but because the tickets to there in contrast to Cologne are much more expensive)), but the cities could become closer spatially and in terms of a shared identity, if it is worked towards that - the shared hosting of the Olympics could be another step for that.
2032 Olympics is now awarded to Brisbane
I watched a few Videos from you and i have to say that you are producing really good videos, keep on going 👍🏼 Are you from Germany?
He sounds like..
His accent ist most definitely from a German speaking country
This is exactly what Philippines did during the 30th Southeast Asian Games (Philippines 2019). Instead of one city to host the game, they use existing sports facilities from different cities and provinces since most cities in the Philippines don't have a complete sporting facilities. But according to the news, some athletes didn't have the chance to come and watch the opening ceremony and other sports/games due to the distance of each venue. Overall, it's still a success even though there are so many problems and issues occured.
Aside from Philippines, Indonesia also did the same thing during the 2018 Asian Games and 2011 SEA Games. There are two cities hosted the games (Jakarta and Palembang).
I have lost so much respect for the Olympics over my lifetime, now I can't watch it without thinking about how much the host country is getting ripped off. If they don't start doing something like this, I would be happy to end the games all together because they suck.
Every time the Olympics are hosted in Germany they always gotta do something special.
i live in the north of that region, go to uni in the south/center and my gf lives in the west of it. Travelling through this region with public transport is even more easy then travelling through paris or london, But DB needs to fix all the delays of public transport to make this perfect.
Even Sydney 2000 had some events held in different states of Australia. It's not as if bidding cities haven't been relying on places outside those cities for a long time already.