Pokemon Has a Version Exclusive Problem
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Pokemon Has a Version Exclusive Problem
Pokemon Has a Version Exclusive Problem
Pokemon Has a Version Exclusive Problem
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Sorry for no April Fools vid... didn't want to keep you guys waiting on an actual video! Hope you enjoy nonetheless and let me know what you think about version exclusives! ^^
So u made a vid
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Understandable. Have a great day.
Your head looks like a minecraft egg
And then one of the exclusives ends up being so broken that Gamefreak nerfs it, while also nerfing its counterpart who was nowhere nearly as strong.
What was the nerfed counterpart?
@@legendary-niko305 The non-broken one? Zamazenta
@@bluekirby_64 ohhh thx
Gen 10 will nerf Orichalcum Pulse and Hadron Engine because Miraidon is too OP and nerf Koraidon too
@@edgargaebolg9307koraidon has a higher usage rate in ubers lol
"What motivated you to make many version exclusives Gamefreak?"
"Money!"
Have friends
@@pn2294 Lol this such a dumb response im so tired of. me and my friends were the target age for pokemon when it first released. by the time gen 4 and the ds came out it had lost so much popularity in my age group that you were more likely to have no friends if you were still into pokemon. Most of my friends had a DS but I was the only one with a gen 4 game because no one else gave a shit about pokemon anymore.
@@suiway this is 2024. Online is no longer an issue
@@pn2294 lol you have to pay more for nintendos online service than you ever did for a link cable. At least a link cable you only pay for once. Also you missed my entire point. That simply "having friends" doesnt magically automatically give you access to trading and version exclusives, either in the past or now.
@@suiway Fuckin el this is one of the "bait catch" reply I've seen for a while lmao
I wish version exclusives never existed
same
I get it they want to emphasize trading but sometimes it's just more tedious than it is fun especially in the olden days when you didn't have friends to trade with like me
Same, they simply should make one more common and the other rare and in the other game vice versa. And make the box legendaries like ho-oh and lugia in hgss, there you could catch the other box legendary post-game.
What’s the point of online features without it?
@@pn2294 battling?
Version exclusives mainly exist for two reasons:
1. Money
2. To encourage trading
That being said, I am also in the camp of people who wished that version-exclusives never existed. I think Scarlet and Violet have an especially massive problem with version exclusives with how many viable VGC Pokemon that are version-exclusive like Raging Bolt and Flutter Mane.
I like that you list both money and trading but money first. Fans who think it was purely for trading and that if you couldn't trade it was your own fault somehow are straight up stupid.
Why TF did they make all the cool strong Pokemon exclusive to Pokemon Scarlet? Wtf. I got Violet bc I like Miraidon, didn't know that cool a** Raging Bolt was gonna be a thing.
A movie having their own version exclusive is wild
The argument of trade with someone is so flaud. Not only is it harder nowadays because you dont just have friends to trade with. But also who the heck is going to give you hteir version exclusive legendary?
Most people still have friends
@@catfood1788 I have friends too they just don't play pokemon 😢
Luckily in SV you can trade the second mascot you find for its counterpart. The only problem is that in future games you'll still have only one to transfer because the other one is your ride
A bud did it for dex data on the legendary, so I got electric worm bike.
@@catfood1788Shocker dude, not everyone has friends who play Pokemon. I have friends, they just don't play Pokemon bc I befriended them via different interests than Pokemon 😑
I hate Version Exclusive (And by extension Trade evo's)
That's why I love the link cable item in PLA...wish they'd just add it to all future games
Trade evos are the worst
Trade evolution is being used to troll players in Scarlet and Violet. If you select a trade evolution item in your bag, you'll see an option to 'Use' the item on a Pokémon. Doing this ultimately achieves nothing as you are immediately told the item 'won't have any effect' So why waste time putting the option there if it was never going to work? Also these Pokémon appear in tera raids anyway so you no longer need the items and trading anyway!
@@AloneTheoristyeah I had a experience getting slowking where I played ultra moon until I could sos for a 1% slowking
@@AloneTheorist I completely agree. They should just convert the Trade Evos in Stone Evo's or have them evolve while holding an Item if they evolve with item trading.
Alakazam > Mind Stone
Machamp > Muscle Stone
Golem > Hard Stone (Alolan Golem > Thunder Stone)
Gengar > Dusk Stone
Politoed > Holding Kings Rock
Slowking > Holding Kings Rock
Scizor > Holding Metal Coat
Steelix > Holding Metal Coat
Kingdra > Holding Dragon Scale
Porygon2 > Holding Upgrade
PorygonZ > Holding Dubious Disc
Gorebyss > Holding Deep Sea Scale
Huntail > Holding Deep Sea Tooth
Milotic > Hold Prism Scale
Gigalith > Holding Hard Stone
Conkeldurr > Holding Muscle Stone
Escvalier > Have Karrablast in the party
Accelgor > Have Shelmet in the Party
Slurpuff > Holding Whipped Cream
Aromatisse > Holding Sachet
Trevenant > Leaf Stone
Pumpkaboo > Leaf Stone
You can thank Shigeru Miyamoto, the creator of Mario and Zelda, for suggesting that Pokémon should have two versions of the game
Miyamoto created Zelda too💀
They did violet so wrong with those iron pokémon
I like the future paradox pokemon, robots are cool 😊
@@foxpokemonforever4775 They literally have no variations like how ancient pokémon. They just turn them into robots, slap iron at the front of a name and call it a day. The ancient pokémon get cool unexpected designs and you never know what the name would be
Crazy how that’s basically the point
Industrial standard futuristic pokemon
Actually find the Violet paradox Pokemon to make more sense in the story. And for Violet to make more sense as a story in general. The professor creates an AI of himself for one. That makes way more sense for a future game than a past game. So much so that I genuinely assumed that the ending to Scarlett must be different. I was confused to find out its the exact same. I was genuinely thinking to myself there's no way that they create an AI in Scarlet it has to be something different. Also the robot Pokemon are much more "scary" and weird. In the context of the game where all the characters are freaked out by them and wonder if they're even Pokemon. The Scarlet paradox Pokemon are still very obviously Pokemon. theyre organic living creatures. Even if you've never seen one before you could still very much assume that they are Pokemon even within the context of the game. However the violet paradox Pokemon are literal robots. You look at them and wonder if they're even Pokemon or if they're just machines. Which makes way more sense for how the characters react to them. And it helps with the creepy vibe of area 0 that they were going for. Having basically just caveman versions of Pokemon isn't scary or eerie. And it really doesn't support the vibe that these Pokemon are extremely dangerous and unknown that the game tries to set up. I feel like you could very easily guess what Pokemon of the past could do. Pretty much the exact same thing that Pokemon of the now do if not slightly worse because they arent as evolved genetically. These robot Pokemon tho? Yeah we have no idea about these things. They exist far off in the future. we don't know what they're capable of. And if they're even alive. Which is what the game is going for. The game constantly refers to how it's extremely dangerous down there and they don't know what these Pokemon are capable of. Which is how arvin's Pokemon gets hurt while he's looking for his parents. So much so that a Pokemon center couldn't even heal it. I can't buy that for the past Pokemon because they're just Pokemon but ancient. But I can buy that for these future Pokemon that are literal robots. One of which according to the Pokedex is a literal death machine created from what used to be the real terrakion. presumably by team plasma when they say "evil organization" That we would have absolutely no way of knowing what they could do. Some of these are literal programmed death machines. It says the same for iron crown as well. It's not even a Pokemon it's a literal machine created by humans. That is far more terrifying than just a dinosaur Pokemon. And much more believable that it could cause irreparable damage to arvin's Pokemon. When I hear the battle music in area zero. The eerie vibe it tries to give off. I feel it in violet. Because these Pokemon are just weird. In Scarlet though? It's still nice music but it doesn't feel nearly the same because these are just Pokemon. In violet its like. Ok wtf are these things. Are they even alive. Which the characters do say and acknowledge in both games. So to me that just simply makes more sense in violet. Heck maybe these Pokemon are extinct in the future. Maybe that's why they are artificially created machines. We know terrakion is extinct now considering the only one that existed was turned into a robot by "an evil organization" that's a lot more interesting to think about
1:33. That Scream Tail legit scared me💀. Look at those demonic eyes.
And that's another reason why I love PLA so much, you can do everything in that game alone, and without anyone else's help too.
Not only do version exclusives need to be dropped, but even Trade Evolutions. And funny thing is, Game Freak kinda has this sentiment already. It's still mechanically in the game, but through raids or even overworld encounters, NEEDING to trade for a Pokemon has become a thing of the past. Game Freak has even stopped making Pokemon that need to be traded to evolve with the last trade evolution Pokemon being Alolan Golem, and if we aren't counting regional forms, Gen 6 was the last gen to introduce trade evolution Pokemon. This proves that Game Freak does have an ear to the ground, and forcing ridiculous requirements like Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt is not only completely unnecessary, but a conscious decision. To not only have to pick the correct version, but the get the DLC and have the player catch around the ballpark of 300 Pokemon (because there is some overlap between dexs, thank GOD) is honestly ridiculous.
I'm in the boat where Purple is my favorite color and the future Pokemon looked cool to me when I saw the leaks. Only to find out Flutter Mane is the best Pokemon since Zacian-Crowned AFTER the fact.
Yes trade evolutions too, I forgot about that
Version exclusives outside of the cover art legendary are literally pointless. Fun fact Heart Gold and Soul Silver removed this effect from the cover legendary Pokémon, get 16 gym badges and speak to a certain NPC and you can get both Ho-Oh and Lugia in a single game. This kind of feature is now removed by plot, sword and shield your rival will always get the other legendary Pokémon despite being a weakling and unworthy to be a Pokémon trainer according to themself. Scarlet and Violet the time machine gets butterfly effected out of existence so you can't use it to get the other paradox Pokémon you need. Honestly the dumbest one jas got to be Ambipom and Gliscor's lines being version exclusive Pokémon, basically unless you're trading spare shinies for legendary/Paradox Pokémon you need Nintendo switch online is virtually worthless in scarlet and Violet as they more often than not release cross version mass outbreaks that render the initial version exclusivity worthless as you can just literally wait for one of these to be announced and complete a Pokédex accordingly. They could probably fix the bugs in Scarlet and Violet with the space saved by removing several shiny locks and the stupidity of version exclusivity that they just ignore later anyway. So why even have bothered making the Pokémon version exclusive anyway if your going to go back on it months - a year or so from release? Heck you can even cheat the version exclusivity by using Pokémon home! Simply own any game interfaceable with home and drop the required Pokémon into Scarlet or Violet, you can even use Pokémon Go if you've caught the Pokémon your transferring in the game your sending it to. So many ways to simply ignore the rules built into the games, rendering many of them meaningless to have been implemented in the first place.
As i kid i hated version exclusives and trade evos so much. I had no way of trading before the DS era (because there was like no market to buy the link cables anywhere, and everything else was bought second-hand, until the DS games) and i had no friends who played the game or had a link cable.
I could only play the hacked version of blue on the family pc, or borrow my stepbrothers gameboy to play yellow or silver, and he never let me actually take his gameboy anywhere. When I finally got a nintendo ds and my own copy of pearl... none of my friends with a ds were interested in pokemon anymore.
@@suiway I had the luck that my sisters each had a DS as well, as well as some games of their own. But I could never trade from Gen 1 to 3, which is why I hate trade evos from the bottom of my heart
@@obambagaming1467 Hate em so much. First time I got to use Gengar on my team was in a romhack 18 years after gen 1 released.
Fun fact: there’s no way to tell if a traded pokemon is genned, as if a pokemon is ‘legal’ the hack check in game does not catch it. 99% of DQs for genned pokemon have been because those genned pokemon were not legally obtainable in game; stuff like being caught in the wrong place or being in a pokeball they could not be obtained in.
Forgot that trading is mostly unusable as the PC doesn't want to fix impossible, hack pokémon and ppl asking for stupid trades.
i thought the version exclusive were meant to get people to trade with each other.
That actually is the reason, it's just a good chunk of the community are introverts and don't like socializing and thus they have to buy both versions if they want a complete pokedex.
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 and then GF mad etrading a chore and more tedious each gen after gen 6
Shockingly, it's possible for other people to not own nintendo handhelds and pokemon games, or even to have lost interest over time. It's really not that hard to just not have access to trading.
and trade evos
@@caiusdrakegaming8087By the time gen 4 came out and you could trade with out a link cable, i was the only one in my friend group who was still into pokemon. Lol at that point you were more likely to have no friends if you were still into pokemon.
Thank arceus for legends arceus
Version exclusives were so bad in sinnoh, I mean they PLAYED anyone who bought pearl. Part of why I love gen 3 so much is because their version exclusives aren’t ones you’d want to seek out so it’s not nearly as bad as having say, both water psychic types in leaf green
Literally me. I got Pearl. No one to trade with. All my friends with a DS had lost interest in pokemon. I hated Pearl so much. Houndoom, the one pearl exclusive I actually like and one of the only fire types in the dex? Locked to post game. Hate Mindy. Completely killed my interest in pokemon for like a decade. I only got back into it during Sun and Moon era.
Wow, didn't even talk about any other version exclusive things (like Team Magma/Aqua, Galar's Gym Leaders, or even how Unova has completely different locations based on the version)
To be fair, those bring it closer to two seperate games.
The most stupid one's are in xy. The megastones are version exclusive, but if the pokémon is a version exclusive and has a mega, you can only find its megastone in the other version. I want to send anyone who thought that was a good idea to jail.
0:37 I BOUGHT VIOLET FOR GULPIN NOT EVEN KIDDING 😭😭😭
Real one
The other problem with trading stuff like Raging Bolt and Gouging fire is that you only get 1 of each per playthrough... With all the hoops you already mentioned... And Iron boulder is SUBSTANTIALLY less desirable to people than the others so if you got Violet you're extra screwed
Exactly this. If a Mon is going to be a version exclusive then they better damn well make it so we can catch multiples to trade. Otherwise it isn't encouraging trading.
I happen to like my future robots (even if they all have uninspired names) but I like "catching them all" to try every option and I still can't complete the blueberry dex.
6:44 At least in Scarlet and Violet, you can use Union Circle instead of trading and actually still get to go and catch version-exclusive Pokémon yourself. Even works for most Paradox Pokémon so you can get them with your OT despite their inability to create Eggs if you value that. I really liked that when I used it.
oh nice
Its worth mentioning that if you play multiplayer in scarlet and violet you can just get version exclusives that way. If you own violet and join a scarlet game of a friend you can catch their version exclusives because you exist in their host game. This became a full on feature in the DLC where some legendaries can only be obtained if you're playing in a group. For example in Scarlet. You can get reshiram in single player. But in Violet you get zekrom in single player. But if you play multiplayer quests you can get the opposite. This also applies to the event raids for walking wake and iron leaves. I just recently did this with my friend yesterday. They played on my game so they could get an iron leaves. And I joined theirs to get walking wake. This applies to any overworld spawn as well. If you want some Scarlet paradox Pokemon and you own violet. Just join up with someone who owns Scarlett go into area zero and catch them yourself. Because you won't be in your game anymore. You'll be in your friends version of the game. You'll be participating in their story and their version of the game. My friend and I discovered this when we joined each other for the first time and my friend was baffled that they could just catch one of my version exclusives
4:40 i did not expect to hear aespa in a Pokemon video but i thank you for doing so
The other thing about trading is that the other person needs to have decided to take the time to get a good iv, correct nature version exclusive legendary.
I will just assume that is true
I LOVE VERSION EXCLUSIVES
I LOVE BEING BLOCKED FROM GETTING COOL POKEMON BECAUSE I DIDN’T BUY A SPECIFIC VERSION
I LOVE HAVING TO GET A SECOND COPY OF A GAME JUST IN CASE I WANT TO USE THE OTHER VERSION’S POKEMON BECAUSE NONE OF MY FRIENDS THAT I KNOW IN PERSON PLAY POKEMON
Welp in pokemon go you have to travel to a completely different countries to get them
Imagine going to Alaska only for a pachirisu😂
0:23 "Gotta catch some of 'em"
no version exclusives is part of the reason why i love pla no version exclusives no trade evolutions it was so good then to go back to the old way in sv was annoying :(
the real solution is that pokemon release a single game instead of two
Who else got violet cause of box legend. VUT THEN.. the paradox pokemon made you sad and you look pokemon scarlet.
I got Violet cause of box legend, BUT THEN the Paradoxes made me happy because the Violet ones are cool too.
Can't relate lol
An example of version exclusivity that makes NO SENSE. In Pokemon S/M/US/UM You gain access to The Alternate World. It's basically the opposite version of whichever game you have. So, if you're playing Sun and you go through the portal, you'll be in a version of Alola with an Altar of the Moone and a Lake of the Moone instead of an Altar of the Sunne and a Lake of the Sunne. You are now playing on the map of the other game... however this only inverts the time. So, unfortunately, even though you are now in the world of Pokemon Moon, you can still only catch the Pokemon available in Pokemon Sun, and the Cosmog you will find at the alternate lake will NOT evolve into the other legendary, no matter how much grinding in the alternate world you do. It's BS, why not let the player have the other set of Pokemon? It's late game content anyway...
Furthermore, in US/UM, you gain access to Ultra Wormholes. You can play a minigame of riding your box legendary, steering your Pokemon as you search for rare wormholes which will take you to places where you can catch legendaries... but only some of the legendaries... Despite the fact we are traveling through these Ultra Wormholes, which are basically taking us to alternate universes in different places and times... You are still limited. For example, you can only find Dialga in Ultra Sun by travelling through the wormholes... and Palkia in Ultra Moon. And you guessed it, Giratina can only be found if you have both Dialga and Palkia in your party while your travelling through the wormholes.
As someone who tried to get a gouging fire from the Home gts, I would like to say it is nearly impossible, espocslly if you want a legit one
Scarlet and violet were the only games i bought because of the proffesor battle and all the version diffrences (like the paradox forms)
I hate version exclusives especially when I was completing the dex when I was completing my dex in pokemon moon I needed to use my sisters copy of Sun it was an annoying experience and I don't even want to talk about the ultra games with the legendarys in the ultraworm holes
Well, the job application line hit me square in the face.
Banger video, Hmaz.
I thought I was getting an april fools vid D:
hard to trade when you dont got friends to trade with though ? which makes version exclusives much more of a pain
Atleast Game Freak do promote trading Pokemon among people through these tactics. Meanwhile in Pokemon Go, you really can't complete your pokedex (especially legendaries/shinies) through only trading. There are region exclusive Pokemon, meaning if someone lives in America and wants a mon that's exclusive to Asia, Niantic will expect them to either travel to Asia to catch that mon, or spend star dust (the in game currency) to be able to trade for it to complete the pokedex. Moreover, the stronger variants of regular mons (ie, shadow mons) can't even be traded, meaning that you will have to get them yourself only. Niantic can only actively discourage trading more.
7:51 bro is steve from the hit series minecraft
Considering every single game in the series has had trades, I'm 90% sure version exclusives are to promote interacting with other players. Which still boosts profits, because an active fanbase basically promotes the product for you. I doubt individuals buying both versions for themselves is the primary factor behind different versions.
I think it was Satoshi who said that was the original reason. Don't quote me on that.
Never knew he lived I a closet in his mom’s basement
I wouldn't know I've been exclusively playing legends arceus
1:30 Mega Man getting stabbed has been mentioned
I was going to ask for Pokémon Sword when gen 8 was coming out, but the MINUTE I saw Galarian Ponyta I switched to Shield on a dime. It’s a pastel unicorn. Younger me COULD NOT resist.
Another problem you didn’t mention with trading Pokémon’s like Raging Bolt is that the people who got it legitimately will never want to trade one away with you and if someone accepts to, the odds that it’s hacked are really high. Now imagine you got a hacked one and the person who you traded with says it’s legit, so you bring that thing to a tournament and get banned from competition. Not worth it in my opinion
I always thought you are supposed to trade those with your frend, who often has the other version of the game
They expect you to have friends not buy both . 😂
Wouldn't it save production time and costs if they moved away from the multi version model. The multiple versions model just feels dated in the dlc era of things.
I liked how Illumise and Volbeat got handled better, one is super rare but they both at least exist in the game normally, wish a few more Version Exclusives were like that...
Wasnt as bad when the games were 30 bucks and no dlc since i always got the 3rd version which usually gave the ones i was missing but once they stopped doing that and raised the prices it became a pain and wasn’t worth trying to get them all I would just wait for the next gen to get the ones i missed or the wifi events. They really need to stop version exclusives and just make one game on release and invest more time into polishing the game.
IMO, B/W/2 should have been the last. I'd rather have options select like LEGENDS ARCEUS where the team you side with decide which legendary is story and which is post/boss battle.
This is why I like Legends Arceus. There no version exclusives.
Looking forward to Pokemon Legends Z-A.
I actually went through the effort to play scarlet and all the dlc twice so that I could trade Entwo and Raikool for Cobaltlion and IronRock… Only for Pokémon home (the thing I have to pay for) to let someone trade me a clearly hacked IronBoulder named with a website. My disappointment is grave, and if it somehow manages to punish me for daring to have a Pokémon it decided was legitimate in the future, I will SCREAM
In the uk its literally £31.60 so we cant relate
Pokémon Legends Arceus is proof that we don't need version exclusives anymore
Bruh calling Koraidon and Miraidon "sandwich eating motorbikes"
the dlc exlussive pokemon is not fair
They need to make one game only for a title. The ppl have to show them that
Gotta catch em all hasn’t been a thing since gen 2 bro
The movie poster you found is in German?
i literally only picked ultra moon over ultra sun bc i wanted alolan sandslash more than alolan ninetales
Best april fools joke ive seen all day.
(jk i also love alolan sandslash)
@@suiway Alolan Sandslash is one of my favourites
@@basecatXD Gen 7 had some really awesome designs imo, it got me back into pokemon after my experience with Pearl killed my interest for years. I greatly prefer regional variants to all the other "new form/evo" gimmicks because it adds variety with out overwriting the old ones or requiring some elaborate in story explanation for why its region exclusive. It makes perfect sense that there would be variants of pokemon based on location, same as real animals. Region exclusives I don't hate like version exclusives.
@@suiway i think that cross gen evolutions are rlly good, but regional variants are probably even cooler.
If you think these are bad trade evolutions are in some ways even worse
Gengar is one of my favorite gen 1 pokemon. The amount of time in between gengar being released and me finally getting to use it on a team is EIGHTEEN YEARS. And it wasn't even an official game, it was an emerald romhack.
When I first got sapphire version I thought clamperl was a nice little pre-evolution to shellder then down the line o found out it was a split trade evolution to gorebyss and huntail which left me really confused
playing older pokémon games and trying to complete the pokédex hurts my soul. i’m a completionist and always try to complete everything a game has to offer. when i can’t get certain pokémon because of either past events version exclusives and Trade evos it physically hurts me and it really shouldn’t But it dose. i can trade but It’s annoying as hell and i’d rather not do it. i also have ways to get event pokémon though it’s also very annoying. version exclusives require me to straight up play a second game Just to complete the fucking game. Trading shouldn’t be mandatory. just like what you said with legends you can not trade and still complete the game Fully. it’s just a complete game with no events Exclusives and it even gave you a alternative to Evolving trade pokémon without Actualy trading. It shouldn’t be this frustrating to Do what the slogan of the franchise tells you to do.
Where’s the clip in 6:47 from
Black and white remakes releasing earlier it’s just barbaric! We aren’t even in gen 10 yet fans can be so dumb
THE KPOP REFERENCES?!?!?!?! AKSDAEFAFS
Something I wish happens someday is that they sell 1 version, but then have something in-game plot wise allow for a player to choose their version. Looking at the western release of Yo-Kai Watch 3 for my example, because literally there's a plot check that's like "ok what's better Sushi or Tempura" (Japanese versions were Sushi and Tempura). Something extra nice is that there was another prompt or two asking again "do you like this or this" in an obvious way to change your mind. This makes it so players during the main story choose a version without needing to do it at purchase, and means they only need 1 version.
You'd still need to play multiple playthroughs, but fortunately you can have multiple saves with switch profiles (although I'd love there to be even just 2 save slots in Pokemon, Yo-Kai Watch 3 has 2 and the previous ones have 3 slots, so I'd like Pokemon to catch up in that regard)
I thought of a game with a $30 skeleton game, then your choice of $30 add-ons. Comes with three saves, plus an additional three for each DLC you buy.
i think you forgot about pokemom home
ONLY IF they done it for a reason like SV,that encoureges actually playing the other version
I hate it now especially with removing gts now it's a guessing game if a trainer has what you want.
Well, they actually moved it to HOME on the mobile version because hackers were depositing and flooding the GTS with mons that crashed your game.
@LPBvgc yeah but I shouldn't have to use a separate device to trade in general and it should just be in the game not one a separate app. You can't honestly defend that.
Honestly, what is the point of Pokémon games coming in pairs?
"Where's the fun in that?"
Trading literally is the one fun thing that let Pokémon stand out among mon games in the 90s and made it the giant that it now is.
It's not fun if none of your friends play Pokemon :(
@@falcon_arkaig that's what online trading is for in modern Pokémon games
@@TheEbrithil2 Unfortunately I don't have Nintendo Online as I don't have a job rn. I don't think Nintendo Online should even cost money, it didn't cost money on the 3ds or DS.
@@falcon_arkaig I agree on that. But isn't GTS trading in Pokémon Home possible without Premium?
Nope i dislike it as it pissed me as a child .
1:01 uhhhhhhhhhhh z - a
Definitely not a problem for the Pokémon company.
The solution is to trade.
For as long as version exclusives have existed, there have been idiots who can't comprehend how easy it is to not have access to trading.
@@suiway and yet it's easier than ever
@@theraginginfernape9496 no its about the same. in fact a link cable you only pay for once so arguably its even crappier now.
Nkt everyone has friends that also play pokemom or have time@@theraginginfernape9496
pokemon has a version problem
Scenes when Hmaz gets into an entirely different franchise which also has two distinct versions per game ⚽️
7:42 some people hate legends Arceus because of the research tasks
I admit they can get repetitive if you're not willing to expend a lot of time in the game, but I actually liked doing it. Also some were really funny, like Azelf having a jab at it's best move being explosion.
What are your thought in "light" version exclusives, where in the Sword and Shield DLC you have the choice of getting a different legendary over other?
You still need to trade but at least you can get the Pokémon you want at first.
Honestly, version exclusives shouldnt exist and the only differences in versions should be cosmetic.
Well this video technically had an intro.
April fools?
Xy was 40 not 60
Version exclusive Pokemon should not exist or not be competitively viable at all
7:27 bro are you doing thhis on purpose why did you reminded me of the most saddest anime character in freaking april
I mean her anime has literally lie and april in the name
YOO FACE REVEAL
thats why i hack pinsir in when i need it tho heracross is way better...
Tbh I wish you made an April Fool's vid, but good vid nonetheless
To be fair they kinda started dealing with the problem.
Making unique pokemon have double so that they can be traded.
And with raid and raid events plus people making universal code to trade specific pokemon it kinda became less of a problem.
I think the real problem are the unique leggendary because those are a problem to get since you would loose a pokemon.
You can still get them in giveaway but you need a lot of patience in that.
If you were a kid and your family was poor and none of your friends were into Pokemon (either at all or lost interest over time), version exclusives were a great early life lesson in absolutely random shit being totally arbitrarily shittier simply because you/your family couldnt afford to pay more.
Or an I’m just spitballing here, you can find a community online to trade with. There are dozens of Facebook groups with some really friendly people that are happy to help out. The hurdle of trading is not as hard as people make it out to be.
@@crisiskrow Im talking about what it was like for me as kid when pokemon first released and why some of us oldies have *always* hated version exclusives
@@suiway I grew up poor but I lived in NYC. At the height of Pokemon fever everyone in my class played Pokemon and it probably fell off around diamond and pearl when I was in high school.
I appreciated version exclusives because it gave me and my friends something to plan around. It was fun hearing why someone chose that version over the other.
I think version exclusives now a days don’t matter because game freak has been releasing raids for exclusives which has been super helpful for people who don’t care to make friends.
@@crisiskrow Aaaaaah ya I didn't have my own handheld or copy until gen 4. My brother had gotten a romhack of Blue (and harvest moon) on a floppy disk from a friend of his and my step brother had a gameboy with yellow and silver but he never let me take it with me anywhere, I could only borrow it while I was visiting my dad, not take it home or to school. Also, pokemon wasn't as popular in my super duper ultra religious little town, so even at it's peak it was never more than like 1/4 of the kids in my grade level that were into it.
When the ds and I got my own and a copy of pearl (16th birthday, no car, but still treated as a special birthday where you got to ask for a more expensive gift) the same thing had happened where I live. Pokemon's popularity among my friends had completely dropped off. I was the only one of my friend group with a DS who was still into pokemon at that point lol in large part *because* I thought I would finally get to trade and battle with my friends... So ya, I tried but I could never convince any of them to get diamond, we basically just played mariokart, and that weird multiplayer metroid demo thing I can't remember the name of.
*still* not being able trade or battle now that I finally had my own system and game was a big part of why I lost interest in pokemon after Pearl. My interest came back cause of some of the sun and moon designs. I got back into playing romhacks (finally got to play gen 3 and use hacked trade evos!) and then a few years after that I discovered showdown which let me battle other players for the first time.
@@crisiskrow Ahhh ya i lived in a small town where even at its peak only maybe 1/4 of the class at most played it. Long story short I didn't have access to *my own* handheld and game until the DS and gen 4. Same thing happened where I lived though where pokemon dropped in popularity massively by gen 4 so even though lots of my friends who *were* into pokemon had a DS, I was the only one who got a gen 4 game and I was never able to convince them to get one. I lost interest in pokemon too after that for about ten years because I was sick of missing out on version exclusives, trade evos, and battling people not just npcs.
i'm fine with version exclusives
if you choose a plastic toy looking dragon over a feathered king that's on you.
Plus thanks to people wanting the plastic dragon, i got scarlet for 1/2 the price 3 days before release to be delivered the release day, 29.99 instead of 59.99.
Did the same with Pokemon Shield as well, honestly if you hold off ordering and don't care which you get one of the versions is normally listed for 20 to 30 less then the other about 1-2 weeks before the release date.
Yeah that “plastic toy” is an actual motorcycle irl now, the closest to actually having a Pokémon irl. But you enjoy the purely imaginary “feathered king”
@@BillSchrader yeah it's still a plastic toy, saying the motorcycle is anything close to a IRL Pokemon is cope.
It's cool for sure but let's be real it's a prop piece for marketing.
That's like saying a painted land mower being held up by fishing wire is a rotom-mow IRL.
@@mairain6443 L take your opinion is not popular
@@BillSchrader What does popularity have to do with my opinion?
It's my opinion, nobody has to agree with me, I think the design is bad, it looks like plastic to me.
instead of trying to explain why you like the design of miriadon you instead just say that I have a "L" take, that is the true "L" take here.
And this is why i didnt feel much for dexit... cause it was always a thing for me.
7:22 PLA also has the Linking Cord item, so you dont have to deal with the Bs thats trade evolutions either.
So basically it's pay to win
The only exclusives I don't mind are the ones locked behind making a choice like with starters and fossils cuz it still encourages trading without it being obnoxious or costly
Honestly, I only like version exclusives if they are for a reason. Like Zangoose and Seviper being version exclusive in ruby and sapphire, because they are know rivals in the pokemon world.
Also keep in mind that sometimes the third game does something else, like only having one or the other.
Other examples of this include: Solrock and Lunatone in ruby and sapphire respectfully, Latios and Latias in ruby and sapphire respectfully, the Vulpix and Growlithe lines in multiple games, the Oddish and Bellsprout lines in multiple games, Scyther and Pinsir used to be duo, the Magby and Elekid lines in multiple games (although sometimes they aren't), Psuedo legendaries in multiple games, the fosil pokemon in multiple games, the Murkrow and Misdreavus lines in multiple games, the Meowth and Mankey lines in multiple games, the Ledyba and Spinarak lines in silver/soulsilver and gold/heartgold respectfully, Sableye and Mawile in multiple games, the Caterpie and Weedle lines in the Unova region games, Plusle and Minun in multiple games, the Solosis and Gothita lines in sword/shield and the Unova region games, the Rufflet and Vullaby lines in multiple games, the Bonsly and Mime Jr. lines in multiple games, Throh and Sawk in the Gen 6 games and sword/shield, the Spritzee and Swirlix lines in sword and shield, the Skrelp and Clauncher lines in multiple games, the Lotad and Seedot lines in multiple games, the different shellos forms, the Alolan forms of the Sandshrew and Vulpix lines in the Alolan games, the Cottonee and Petilil lines in multiple games, Oranguru and Passimian in multiple games, Turtonator and Drampa in the Alolan games and sword/shield, the Ultra Beasts in the Alolan games, the different basculin forms in multiple games, the Totem pokemon in the Alolan games, the Galarian forms of the Farfetch'd and Corsola lines in sword and shield, because the gymleaders that uses them are version exclusive, Flapple and Appletun's evolution exclusive items and they themselves are version exclusive in sword and shield, Stonjourner and Eiscue in sword/shield and scarlet/violet (Note that in sword and shield it is, because the gymleaders that uses them are version exclusive), the Galarian forms of the Darumaka line in sword and shield, because Melony has one and she is version exclusive, Pinsir and Heracross in the Isle of Armor DLC, the Glameow and Stunky lines as a reference to Mars and Jupiter from Sinnoh in multiple games, and the Aipom and Gligar lines in the Teal Mask DLC.
I usually pick game off color but often get both