Escaping a Fundamentalist Mormon Sect-Lyndon and McKay
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2024
- Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Lyndon and McKay, former members of a fundamentalist mormon sect now living in Sacramento, California.
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Thank you for the opportunity for letting us come on the show and I look forward to covering more of it on a later date!!
So interesting to those of us that haven’t a clue what goes on inside. Thank you for sharing. ❤
Thanks for sharing. It was an eye opener! ❤
Awesome, you guys! Both smart and strong men!! Lyndon- you nailed it: do the right thing to prove it to yourself - not to prove where you came from wrong. Remain being the good brother you are to each other! Lots of luck to you both.
Thank you for sharing I was born in the USSR people look ate like I am from a different planet you guys made me feel normal thank you guys
Thank you! Wow, blown away!
Thank You Mark for having us on! Lots more to cover. I definitely need to work on my on camera cursing. It’s almost like having a defiant attitude got me to this point……..
I have about a million questions! What a wild story, my god...
Thank you for sharing your story, Lyndon! You’ve gone through something most will never understand but you still have a smile on your face! True resilience! I hope this world is kind to you and McKay! Can’t wait to see all the places you go! 🩵
Cursing keeps it real and colorful. I think it’s harmless. Such a curious culture. Happy for you both to have set your selves free. No small task I am sure. Keep on keeping on.
It’s okay and no worries at all. Anyone who went through what you and McKay did would have had the same or stronger reaction. Thanks for sharing your story and hope to see you both on @GrowingUpinPoligamy with Sam and Melissa someday.
I would love to know more about you and your brother - how you are doing, how life is treating you these days, if you are well - that kind of stuff. You are both such fascinating survivors / warriors that it would be awesome to know what is happening in your life in 2024.
"Don't try to prove them all wrong, just try to prove yourself right." That is sage advice indeed.
his story about why he left his wife, so she could have the experiences a 17 year old kid deserves, is so beautiful. to have that insight at such a young age is inspiring and heartwarming. good for these brothers
I hope she was ok though....a naive 17 yr old girl w no income or education is easy prey in this world.
well....a story......soo...........
It was the Bonnie and Clyde reference that got me!!!! He loved her....... true love ❤️
Absolutely
Good love
I've been a professional driver for more than 10 years and just wanted to tell McKay i'm proud of him getting his CDL.
@GodGod-nq3bl Commercial driving license.
@GodGod-nq3bllol
lolll
@@rob550
Here here!
Im glad these brothers got out of that cult. Lyndon was a free thinker and put that spark in his brother McKay
All are in the cult that darkness makes.
@@VibeagainShallnot, I see you.
It’s not a cult. I am part of it.
@@ziggy44132 We could call the Roman Catholic Church a cult and the richest corporation on planet earth.
A few centuries ago they had heretics burned at the stake.
Anyone who disagreed with them on anything....That's a cult.
@@Vibeagain No, I literally see you inside and out.
I was married to their oldest brother in the religion. I’m glad they are telling their story, although this is just a small piece of it. I tended Mckay alot when we were still in the religion. Miss those kiddos.
I would love to hear your story too!
@@rachelb315I plan to tell it soon
Yeah religious based ... stick to the topic forced marriages with UNDER AGED female children!!
I'd love to hear it too! God bless you I hope you are doing well @@AliceHolm88
@@AliceHolm88I was born Mormon, I'd love to talk to you about the difference between, the two sects
I worked at a place where we hired a lot of young men/boys from these communities. They were ran off by the old men because they were seen as competition by the old men who wanted to keep the girls for themselves. A lot of them had nearly no education and had basically been living on the streets doing whatever to get by and whatever else for relief from all their trauma.
Im glad these brothers found one another again.
Well that sounds like a tribal society.
It's so very sad.
McKay-I’m proud of you getting your CDL liscence. That’s a big accomplishment.
Yes it is!
You can tell from Lyndons facial expressions just how disgusted he is by some of McKays stories of the church. What a "blessing" that his intuition and brain served him right since a small child. He always was a free thinker and knew what was happening was wrong. I can only hope there are more children like this that know right from wrong despite the preachings of the church.
When it comes to religion everyone needs to be a free thinker.
I learned the hard way. I’m good now though. Therapy is a godsend
Well said. I watched Lyndon’s face-like he was back in all the craziness-as his younger brother talked about the men sexually abusing the younger boys. It’s heartbreaking but I think they are going to make it in the real world. Chop Wood, Carry Water ✌️
Lyndon has a great smile but sadness behind the eyes. Interesting he knew of music and other banned things he got his hands on. Glad they got out. Mormonism is dangerous and disgusting.
Maybe he’s uncomfortable with inability to share the story without using so much profanity. I swear a lot and even I got sick of his language. There are other words to use besides “f*#k”, it just makes him sound ignorant.
Ppl wonder why women like “bad boys” and it’s not necessarily that we want a man who’s a criminal. What describes it perfectly is when Mckay said “And no one wants to be the only person in a room of 7000 to stand up and say I disagree” and then Lyndon said “I do.” That’s the spirit we mean when we say bad boy. Someone with conviction and confidence who is willing to go against the grain regardless of the consequences.
YAASSS PERFECTLY SAID! ❤
Yes!
Agreed, perfectly said!
depends on what people mean when they say it - sometimes it really is being used at someone who is no good. Too bad others have also used it for people who simply don't just play ball.
@@xBINARYGODx Have you ever been ostracized? Scapegoated?
Broken out from a multigenerational cult?
I have.
It takes a tremendous amount of willpower and self love to be labeled as "BAD".
Proud of you two men for breaking the cycle of religious trauma and cults. ❤
Religious trauma is very real 😢
The environment of the flds is much closer than mans world to what an environment should be. But none know how to sow the light and night that it should be.
Light is sown like a seed for the righteous. Psalm 97:11
I spent a week in Short Creek last spring. Had at least 2 great conversations about sowing light. That is a good place to abide in the glory of God. It might actually be that Z word that ends like lion does.
Fact
@@michaelswenson6599what in the world are you saying
Recovering From Religion y'all. They make interview videos also
religious trauma? Why are women such morons? Listening to these guys it became clear that they had better childhood than all the people raised by single mothers in our society. they had parents, they had a bunch of siblings, they were taught how to work, they ate healthy food that they raised and grew themselves, they were kept away from television, the internet and porno, they had a tight knit community, they didn't have schools telling them to be gay and trans and to hate themselves for being white, they lived in a white community. . .
only a woman could be dumb enough to think their testimony is a horror story.
We need another episode wit these guys 🫡
Agreed!!
For realll
With
Yes! I want to hear what the brother has to say!
I was engaged to a member of the Mormon church for five years. I was never welcomed in to the family. This was in the early 80’s. Years later his dad was found guilty of molesting his granddaughter. He was excommunicated from the church, but other than that, it was like it never happened. His whole family stood by him. It was crazy. My ex fiancée and his dad were killed in a plane crash a few years ago. I wonder what celestial level they made it to…
outer darkness
Hell- the lake of fire.
Karma won in the end ig?
I lived in Utah for 45 years… as crazy as all this is, I’m not shocked by any of these stories. These guys tell the truth.
I used to live there too. Utah is a crazy place to move to.
I was in Utah 26 years (not LDS)
These guys are telling the absolute truth. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Huge respect to these two courageous brothers. You can feel the strong bond between them and it is wonderful to see that. Best wishes to them.
Every religion is a corporation based off of a sex, money, and power.. Well said!
Indeed
Except doctrinally sound, King James Bible-based Christianity.
@@martinmummert5614nah, especially that one
@@martinmummert5614that’s one of the worst offenders
No tru Christianity based on Jesus teachings and Apostle Paul they dont follow the scripture they make up their own scripture .
Having left the regular Mormon church years ago, i feel like we (my wife and I) escaped a crazy world. I can't imagine the $h!t that these guys have gone through to get where they are. Keep moving forward and dont look back!
I left the Mormon church, as well! It is just all made up, greedy, controlling and was honestly disgusting to my soul.
I've been following your channel for months, but this is the first time I'm commenting. These two men are exceptional. I can't imagine how tough it must be to trust your own moral compass and get out of a situation like that. I wish nothing but the best for them moving forward.
Yes i really enjoyed this interview too. Especially the older guy
I wish the younger brother had more of a chance to speak. But this was a great interview. Sending love to both of these guys & of course you Mark as well💜💜💜
Same here
It's in the training to let Elders speak and younger ones be quiet.
@@grant4176 the younger brother doesn't look too happy about it and the older one has hung on to that "training" 😕
I agree, the older brother just dominated 😢
They have different personalities, and not everyone likes to talk or is naturally extroverted. Mark also edits all these videos. You don't know what was edited out or why. Always one who finds something to complain about.
I live in salt lake City and my daughter dated an ex flds guy, he has 3 moms and 14 siblings! He is a good man and was very family oriented and had no interest in staying in the flds church. We still stay in touch with him even though it didn't work out with my daughter
@@Drstone-ys6we WOW aren't you a smartie pants
@@Drstone-ys6we lol
I wish more people were like you. I liked some of the parents so much more than ex boyfriends. I'm sure he appreciates your family friendship! :)
@@Mizz.Person so true! Haha
We love him and wished it would have worked out. But they weren't meant for each other and that's ok too. He still drops by to visit us, even though my daughter doesn't live with us and he's engaged to another cute woman with children. He really is a good guy
Can we make this into a series? McKay, I can listen to you talk all day. Lyndon, you crack me up man. Wonderful storytellers. Wishing you both the very best that this world can offer 🌟
When he speaks of “Bonnie &Clyde” relationship what he is describing is a trauma bond and it’s real hard to break the cycle. My hat is off to Lyndon for letting go of his young wife.
This is a Fu*king Netflix series! I would definitely watch it.
Keep sweet and obey is from exmormons. Cults to conciseness is an awesome channel on CZcams!
@@laitondion this cult is Mormon.
At least 5 seasons
@@laitondion do realize these boys are not members of the LDS Church videos you Recommended. These boys are from a break off from the LDS church. They explain that at the beginning of the video.
They have a Netflix series called “Keep Sweet and Obey”
Intelligence, independence, and bravery. What a lucky combination!
I grew up in the cult of jehovahs witnesses. Like these two brothers, me leaving the cult meant losing family. It's very tough
So sorry. So cruel.
Glad you got out. 🙌🏻 Live your life to the fullest. You are not responsible for their negative reactions. They are brainwashed.
Me too. But glad I left and made my own life
I wish SWU would interview an EX-JW one day.
@@gjhartist3685 yes I agree
This was sad. Fascinating. And triumphant.
McKay needs his own interview now.
I thought McKay said what he wanted to say, but there's obviously a lot more stuff bubbling away under the surface. He seems to really love his family and I think he feels quite alienated from them (even though he has no desire to go back). Luckily, he has his brother.
It’s crazy what you can make a group of people believe when you isolate them and control what information that they get.
Great video Mark! I know you hear it all the time but you do an excellent job.
It’s scary isn’t it? Sometimes they don’t even need to be very isolated to fall for this bs too. If the leaders are manipulative enough they can get a lot of people to believe strange lies. 😬
It's heartbreaking, truly. I also believe that this theory holds true, even when isolation isn't a key ingredient. Those who control the information (i.e., the news, media, algorithms) control the minds. I see it every day here, and it's quite scary when people you've previously believed to be intelligent, begin to fall under these spells #thisisamerica
Same thing happened in Cuba until the internet finally started just a few years ago and everyone started to wake up to their government controlled minds ! Now there are hundreds of young Cuban people with CZcams channels exposing the truth !
Just as the Japanese government did to their own citizens during WWII. Brainwashed them with propaganda
Agreed! We all need to ponder the implication of that, since information is so heavily controlled through the internet now.
Excellent interview! I could listen to their stories all day. Another interview with them would be so cool!
I hope they start their own podcast, they're really engaging
I agree! I'd like to see Mark follow these men like he does the Whitakers and Rebecca
Lyndon, please let McKay speak more. Or perhaps there wasn't enough time for all of the whole story? Lyndon, you have a great attitude now. "Prove it to yourself." Great! And, so good you help out your brother and the other people who left. Setting a good example is your absolute contribution. So glad you are both on the better path. Best to you and anyone else recovering.
I go to school in St George, Utah and one of my classmates is from Hildale with the last name is Jeffs. Super nice guy, but he is clueless about some social norms. I haven’t really tried to pry into his life and background but now I’m very curious.
I also buy pecans from that pecan farm in Hurricane all the time, they’re the best!
Edit: I talked to him and he told me his family got out of it about 15 years ago when Warren Jeffs started doing crazy stuff. He commutes from Hildale 45 minutes every day for school and loves it there. He says it’s changed drastically in the last few years and most FLDS have relocated to Beaver or around Cedar City, UT. He appreciated being talked to about his background and we’re gonna hike Water Canyon when it warms up!
Ohhh hurricane is full of the cult
@@Notmep I was at a park on the Fourth of July out there and a really old dude with at least six wives came and posted up at a table next to us in the same pavilion. The youngest one couldn’t have been older than sixteen
Thanks for reaching out to this person. No doubt he needs you.
I get the impression that the lad Lyndon was unable to say the F word for 17 years and he’s making up for lost time in this interview 😮
Right. I love it!
😂
Fuck yeah!!
Yep, he's a smart guy but he has sloppy language skills.
@@amygreen9662saaaaaame! 😂😂❤
These two men are absolutely amazing, so glad they have each other’s backs, and I hope they can work to support others from that community that break free.
This interview was just fascinating. I sat here and watched the entire video. 🤯
I love these boys! They make their dad and me so very proud. They have overcome such hardships and have made great lives for themselves.
I’m just curious, would you mind saying if you are one of their mothers that raised them in the home with the other mothers? If so which # wife were you? Or did you get with their dad after he was ousted? Thanks
Their dad was not ousted. He left when he realized what Warren Jeffs was doing.
I am not part of that community. I met their dad in 2010 after he was out for a few years.
I’ve always been fascinated by the FLDS and hearing survivors’ stories, but mostly it’s women who leave as the men seem to have a sense of safety. Listening to these guys is so interesting, the fact that they hated it almost right off the bat is not a surprise though. What they put the young boys through is brutal, I’m glad these guys got out! Thank you for telling your stories guys 😊
I understand what you mean, but the men are also screwed.
I heard stories about young men being disowned because they are a threat to the older powerful "leaders" (predators) and their control over the girls.
I don't know a huge amount about the FLDS either, but as I understand it the men work and give everything to the church. The majority either have their wives taken because they rank low in the hierarchy or never are given wives at all. That's the only way one man can have 20, 30 plus wives. As you might imagine, this likely causes a lot of pain for a man.
@@morgenmachen2400 I know you weren't necessarily responding to my comment, but just to be clear about my comment, i wasn't talking about men having or not having a wife or wives as a reason to be screwed.
@@thematriarchy2075I didn't assume that. Neither was mine, by the way.
I meet one of warrens jeffs nephews randomly at a golf course. He proceeds to tell me one of the most awful stories he experience while growing up in the flds. He was a very nice young man. I hope he's doing well.
Did this happen to be a golf course in Mesquite Nevada?
…well… what was the story?
Why tf u lien? Why u always lien? Ohhh mmmmmy gawd
@Ernest-vh1zm no, it was in Albuquerque NM. He was attending university here. He had a striking physical resemblance to Warren's imo.
@@JackMehoff-db8btshut up dindo
grateful for this interview.
one-on-one chat with McKay please
This was so interesting! How amazing that people live like this. One of the wisest things I’ve ever heard some say was Lyndon’s “don’t prove them wrong, prove yourself right.” Congratulations to these two men for escaping.
Lyndon sounds like a strong minded kind of guy. Which, probably, helped him live in that comunity and then leave it. I hope more people in places like that have the opportunity to ask for help and get out.
Lately, I’ve been listening to a channel called cult to consciousness and I’ve heard many girl’s part of this same story. I can’t start to comprehend how on Earth the government has not gotten involved in that whole thing earlier. Those Mormon kids have been through so much! It’s wild to me that it could go on and even exist for so long!
I’m so glad he became that black sheep that saved himself and many others. Sincerely, he is awesome and can be so proud of himself!
Because they pay them! I love that channel too!
@@laitondionis it a CZcams channel or a podcast? Can you link it? Thx ☺️
@@frankfranklin4846...it's a utube utube channel.
@@frankfranklin4846 it’s a CZcams channel. I have no clue how to link it but I’m sure if you type Cult to Consciousness, you’ll find it.
i don't think they are considered Mormon
2 EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG MEN!!! So happy they seem grounded after coming from such a horrendous mind screwing childhood! Lyndon, if I was your Mum, I would be so proud of you, never disown you!!! McKay what a beautiful young man you are !Sending love from Perth Australia 🌈 Kylie
This all sounds so abusive and traumatic. Poor kids that are forced to live behind closed doors, deprived of so much, abused, and explpited for their labor! Wow! Thank u for educating us. You have my respect for being a fearless leader!
great interview…glad they are out…mckay was so patient waiting as his bro talked the most…u could tell he’s so affected still…my heart goes out to both ofthem for they will never have relationships w/most their family..it’s sad.
These guys have the hearts and courage of a lion. Way to go guys
Mark, this is wild man. I wouldn’t mind if you interviewed all of their family members who have left the church.
I started watching this after midnight and it was hard to go to sleep, especially after listening to all the suffering these young men were forced to endure. The source of all this suffering can be traced to one individual: Warren Jeffs.
And, relijin. Created by man to divide & control man. 😭 Mother Earth 🌎 is sacred, along with all life, she's our only home 🏡 😊
Unfortunately it didn't start there. It started with Joseph Smith.
My ❤️ goes out to all the children! Thanks for the video!
What a sad but incredibly story. Thank you for sharing - wishing you both the very best in your journeys. Love 💕 from Canada 🇨🇦
Im so happy they are free! They should have a podcast! Please have them back! All the best!
Well done Lyndon and McKay! Thank you for sharing your stories.
It was fascinating listening to these guys. Lyndon has such a dry sense of humour, what a great big brother McKay has.
Wishing them both all the luck in the world for a good life.
Im glad they made it out!
Thank you for the interview Lyndon, McKay and Soft White Underbelly
Well...we have a new winner ladies and gentlemen cuz this has to be one of my most favorite interviews out of all of them so far now and I couldn't help but feel so completely fascinated and captivated by these guys' incredible stories so thank you both for sharing them with us!! You are amazing, brave and very strong to get through everything that you were forced to endure through your childhood but I am so happy that you got through it all and now are able to move forward to live the best lives you possibly can so bravo to the both of you and congrats!!!🥳❤️💯👏👏👏 (Incredibly inspirational)!!!👍👍
Thank you Lyndon and McKay for your great interview. I've seen the documentary on FLDS. I couldn't imagine how much trauma you've experienced. Take pride in how you overcame it.✨️
I love how Lyndon played the players 😂 and how he let his love go to grow and find herself ❤ What a lovely set of guys ❤❤❤
This is a really great interview. Thank you for having them share their stories.
Happy you have a sponsor Mark! I’m so grateful to have someone like you behind the camera provoking societal notions, and finding the footings of the bridges to be built.
One of your best interviews
Great interview, but I wish the younger brother had more of a chance to speak. I would love to hear more from him!
1:07:07 - the moment Lyndon realizes the FLDS went full Animal Farm when McKay explains the member-numbering system they used to ration the food - the look on his face is how I felt reading Orwell in high school, and then again when I realized how literal Orwell’s books were after realizing the leader of a group I had joined was a full psychopath, and the whole system of people he’d built around him were there to protect and enable him. Same look, same feeling, when you see the depth of the pathology, when you realize a little bit off or a lot off is actually way f-cking off.
I agree, watching his face and seeing him process that was wild.
one of the best interviews so far!
Hang in there Lyndon and McKay. You have a full life ahead of you.
Heartbreaking that their mom discarded them
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video. I wish you both peace and prosperity in your life.
This was amazing. Probably one of my top three and I watch you every day. This is so interesting. Crazy story. I wish you had a part 2 on them
As someone who grew up as a strict JW - this sounds crazy even to me. I had to throw away my Pokemon cards and couldn't talk to kids in school - but this is next level control.
Are you still a JW? I work for JW’s which is my first real exposure. They are super nice and good folks.
They have the biggest database of pedos in the world that they refuse to turn over to police. They will shun you for smoking a cigarette but protect rapist. Great people.
JW a cult too
@@Mudhen2020Super nice until you are no longer one of them.
@@ashleyt.1116 exactly, then they will shun you so bad and talk all kinds of garbage
Excellent interview. Wishing the best to these boys. They made a wise and brave decision to leave the cult. Please do more religious themed interviews. They are fascinating.
You two are amazing! I appreciate the support you give to each other. Sibling love goes a long way in this life.
What a great great interview.. please have them back again.. i could listen to their stories all day long..
I really enjoyed this one. Hopefully you can have them come back for a part 2
Great guys right here. Saw the title wasn’t even going to watch . Listened intently to the whole thing. . Crazy crazy interesting .
Loved this interview!! One of my very favorites. Thank you Mark!!
Thank you Mark for our hosts on this video. Cannot wait for part 2.
Thank you. I think this has been my favorite interview to date. Awesome.
I can relate so much. I was raised by my narcissistic grandmother after my mother died. My grandmother got me on probation for no good reason and used it against me. I was released at 18 and have barely spoken to my grandmother since. The courts are used against kids all the time.
I'm loving these recent videos! Thank you Mark!
This was one of my favorite interviews. I was fully invested in every word. Thank you. P.S> I'm so glad they got out!
Gorgeous portraits and yet another fascinating interview. TY
Incredible interview! Thank you Lyndon and McKay for sharing your experience growing up in the FLDS and being so frank and honest about your lives and educating us about what growing up FLDS is really like. It takes a lit of strength and tenacity to escape a life like that. I wish you both the very best.
So much gleaned from you Lyndon and you McKay - primarily, what well-rounded, funny, wise, fearless, humble & proud (well-deserved pride) you both are.
I'd say you truly made lemonade, from the lemons in your lives.
It warms my heart that you're back together and building a solid, respectful and satisfying life, as beautiful individuals but also as a family.
Thank you for sharing the challenging personal things you both experienced, I have such respect for your resilience.
I truly wish everything wonderful and fulfilling for you both!!
One of the best videos yet. Best wishes to them both.🥺🥺🥺
Amazing interview guys, glad you all got out and are doing well
This is one of the best interviews of fdls I have seen and I'm addicted to watching this.
This was a great interview. These guys have been through so much, but they are living great lives now.
Fascinating interview and I wish nothing but the best to these two young guys!
Thank you for sharing this. It is such an incredible story about all of the kids that lived there and got out safely.
Thank you for your work Mark 🙂
This was an incredible interview! Thank you
My daughter was watching and got me into viewing. You really are not only a survivor but an inspiration. God bless you Lyndon. And your brother.
This interview is way more accurate than any of the documentaries out there
😊
this is so intense, i cant watch it all at once, but LOVE this potty mouth dude,
lol They are both so amazing, to have lived through this and speak so articulately.
That was an intense watch. I felt a lot of pain for what u had to endure - but at the same time, youre an inspiration to everyone who was brought up in controlling circumstances and made it out. Thanks for sharing.
This is the best SWU Iv'e watched. I wish them the best!
Your strength is really remarkable. To have the emotional mental and moral fortitude you have after growing up being brainwashed is really a testament to the people you are. When you know nothing else but this bizarre crazy life to be so brave and so strong to fight your way out and want for better is truly inspiring. I’m sorry for the hurt you’ve been through and still certainly go through by being shunned by your family. If it means anything you should be really proud of yourselves and each other. Stay strong!
McKay definitely sounds like he's from the Crick. I'd recognize that accent anywhere. I'm so happy Lyndon got away and helped get McKay away from that cult. I'm very dear friends with one of their fellow apostates from the Crick. His name is Bryan Jessop. They probably know him/are related to him. He has shared a lot with me about what went on there and what life was like there. One of the strangest rules, in my opinion, was no pets. The longer Jeffs was in power, the stricter and more insane the rules became. It will never make any sense to me. But, then again, I wasn't born into it.
The town of Pinesdale in Western MT is a FLDS polygamy camp and a bunch of Jessops have been there for years.They had an influx from Warren Jeff's Community and several moved back to UT.They are Definately practicing,women and girls don't cut their hair,wear no makeup,dress like Amish the boys are trained to do construction trades or work in the Mormon owned Used Car lots all over,grocery stores,retail,and bus down to Darby to work in the big warehouses distributing all the made in China "home decor" and kid's stuff they sell amongst mainstream and FLDS Mormons.Fake Western Art and Chinese knockoff Western gear and scented candles and knicknacks is a Hallmark of their Merchandising.
Most interesting interview I've seen in a while!!!❤
Wow, after listening to you guys, I realize I have so much more to be grateful for in my life. Thank you for sharing your life stories. Sending virtual Granny hug's and prayers to everyone ☺️💕